This is a nice example of how a company should respond to a test of their product. Positive community interactions instead of hate, accusations and lawsuits.
We always encourage feedback and honest testing. Good, bad, or indifferent. It's how we grow as a company and continue to provide quality products that you have unwavering confidence in.
This is a great response that can potential lead to an improved product. But what is even more important is that you have gained a lot of trust and respect from the gun community
Trust, brother? The whole video was emblematic of geissele as a company in a nutshell - talking about solutions and materials, from bolt carrier material to barrel steels and profiles that have been created, implemented and used by other companies for many years as though geissele just came up with them for the very first time Also, a bit chickenshit to try to portray the only issue as being the gas tube needing replacement when the video footage shows that the barrel droop is so severe that the replacement gas tube doesn't cycle the bolt anyway and the upper functions exactly the same as it would with the damaged gas tube
@@PolenarTactical I really enjoyed that the whole video was emblematic of geissele as a company in a nutshell - talking about solutions and materials, from bolt carrier material to barrel steels and profiles that have been created, implemented and used by other companies for many years as though geissele just came up with them for the very first time Also, a bit chickenshit to try to portray the only issue as being the gas tube needing replacement when the video footage shows that the barrel droop is so severe that the replacement gas tube doesn't cycle the bolt anyway and the upper functions exactly the same as it would with the damaged gas tube
This is why Geissele is my primary go-to for rifles now. Respect for responding to this video and showing us the gun afterwords. I'm not sure another company has done this before. Keep doing what you're doing.
Same here. I was a proud owner of the SR15. But as soon as the Super Duty and the SR15 Melt Down came out, I went ahead and replaced it with 2 Super Duty uppers and still have some extra money left.
Wow, a company doing something cool as a response! This should be the PR blueprint for product testing. I’m so sick of seeing litigation threats and takedown letters. I’m really glad I went with your trigger rather than the others out there.
This is the most professional and respectable responses I've ever seen by any company. I always had a ton of respect for Geissele, but this takes it to another level. Taking constructive feedback on an already incredible product and working to make it better is amazing to see. Unfortunately, Hurricane Ian took my URGI near Fort Myers Beach 2 years ago. Since then, i've been saving up for a Super Duty but haven't pulled the trigger yet on one. If this heavy barrel and custom gas block/gas tube goes into production, it'll be a must have. Very excited to see the results of the upcoming test!
Hey g$, just wanted to say this fantastic response was the reason that pushed me over the edge to purchase a Super Duty. Give your marketing and customer service folks a raise for being genuinely curious about your own products. Gives me confidence in my purchase. Keep being nerdy with your designs and manufacturing and caring about the small stuff.
Geissele is the best AR maker in the business. You cannot convince me otherwise. When I have had issues, even two years after purchase, they offer to fix it for no charge. I own a ridiculous amount of their products. They are simply the best. And before you ask, I own KAC, LMT, DD, etc. Geissele team, Mr. bill, please keep the videos coming and uphold the reputation you worked so hard to build.
We appreciate your testimony! Whether its 2 years or 20 we want to make sure you are confident in not only the product, but the manufacturer behind it. Thank you for the support!
@@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 I saw it the minute it dropped. I was honestly surprised. I thought it was going to take months before we saw the video with the heavy.
So basically you recreated the original Colt LMG with the reinforced thicker gas tube along with the extra thick bbl. The Colt IAR used a similar bbl with the standard gas tube. So the new upper will require a H3 buffer where your previous would require and H2 to prevent bolt carrier bounce. More than likely, the bolt will be the failure point in this condition unless barrel erosion causes gas leakage lowering port pressures inducing short stroking.
Hey have you heard of red right hand uppers? They are basically doing this but also have heat sinks for the barrel and gas tube to allow the system to run longer and help prevent cook offs. If you can get your hands on one I’d enjoy hearing what you have to say about them!
Absolutely solidifies my new love for Geissele. Not only did the round count convince me the Super Duty is my next choice for a ( kinda ) affordable AR that'll out last me. Simple Carpenter here whos dollars are few and hard earned. This video proves to me, again, Geissele is the company i trust the most. By far. I've seen videos with Bill and thought , this guy is unparalleled. Well it seems his company and employees might be as well. Love the fact that they're in my state and only a couple of hours away from me. Never woulda thought such a highly regarded company would be in my back yard.
I love that you guys had the guts to actually look into what happened, post it yourselves, send out ANOTHER upper to be melted down, and posted on that video about inspecting that upper as well. I don't own a G yet, unfortunately.... but I will be the proud owner of one soon!
You guys are hardcore - very appreciative of how you are able to engineer the likely failure point to be the least impactful to the shooter - gas tube versus the barrel itself being compromised - my hat's off to you - Geissele rocks !!!
The fact that you guys looked at this like a challenge and a way to improve your stuff says it all! We all know these meltdown tests are not real world - but they are a hell of a torture test. Well done.
Great follow up guys! Enjoy seeing you have fun with this as well as dig out more details! My SD is very accurate and reliable. No plans to go full auto though! 😀
Second this. Is there any reason why the is couldn’t become the new standard? I have already seen some manufacturers switching over to straight gas tubes to reduce the potential failure that normally occurs at the bend in milspec gas tubes.
They merely copied Colt's gas tube for their light machinegun AR. It's actually a bad idea to use one on a standard AR. The gas tube is essentially a fuse to stop you from blowing up the barrel. Plus, unless you're using the AR as a light machinegun, you'll never need a heavy duty gas tube. Wasted weight.
This is good to see. I bought the 14.5 barrel, bomb-proof install, the MK16 rail, and the EBCG when it still had the 168+ bolt. The difference is I went with a inconel gas tube. Using that gas tube was just insurance since I'm hoping to never have to see 900 rounds of continuous fire out of it.
Bomb proof gas block indeed brother, that’s insane! Edit - just got to the Garand Thumb reference about shooting around corners and was cracking up, you guys are awesome
just watched the hbar meltdown video and it completely destroyed all of the competition. Glad to know the 11.5 and 14.5 uppers I have were well worth the money... keep up the good work guys
I love seeing a manufacturer getting involved with Goldenwebb's videos. His video on the Sig MCX is what convinced me to buy one, and It looks like a Geissele is in my future now.
After seeing all the meltdown videos, I started to notice the trend was that all of the best uppers always still eventually failed for the same reason, the gas tube. I was wondering who would be the first to jump out ahead of the standard gas tube failures and provide a functional upgrade that makes the AR-15 platform upper "meltdown proof" when paired with an extended full auto schedule of fire. Much respect to you guys for being the ones to step up with exactly what I was imagining as the solution; the only part I'm upset about is that I'm not also a part of the kickass team that gets to do this kind of thing from time to time. Looking forward to the results!
Daniel defense m4a1 block 2 with socom barrel from brownells is basically the same thing but u have socom heavy barrel that will last the same and isnt quite as thick. Idk why they didnt go with that as it is proven and not quite as heavy but will last just the same. Run till the rifling burn out and loose pressure.
The prototype barrel looks very similar to the one that came on my HK MR556 and it is a CHONKY boi. Ive been wanting Webb to run one for the longest but HK said it couldn't be done. Good break down fellas 🤙🏼
There has been an incredible response to the upper, and we always pass this feedback along to our project teams. Stay signed up for the newsletter, if we decide to move forward with the heavy barrel it will be announced there and on other social media.
I just want to know when that new upper will be available for the consumer!!! I have wanted a hbar rifle for a while now and would love to have one!!!! Please make this a new production complete upper/complete rifle!
This is awesome. I watched that meltdown and I was impressed but I think it’s super cool that you guys made a beefed up version and I hope you sell them as an option because I would definitely take the heavier barrel version.
I tend to watch reviews and research products. I am interested in. After research and watched the original burndown video. I will be adding this to my next purchase. The company resonds to their products also cemented my decision.
It will probably start cooking off round around the 1,000 round mark due to the heat build up of the heavy barrel. It would be awesome to incorporate small barrel fins on the heavy profile to allow for faster cooling of the barrel so it can survive longer.
The new burndown on the HBar is awesome. I would happily spend my duckets on this product. Please Geissele indulge the masses. Maybe an 18in Hbar for this old paratrooper?
Guess who I am buying my next AR from? This is how a company should react to their product being tested and yes they stated it was part scientific and part entertainment. For me I saw a positive reaction from a company. Grats guys!
It's great to see a company actually give a damn about their customers. I am going to guess that heavy barrel will do 2k rounds. If it does, I hope you make that upper available.
Just saw Ben’s torture test with a prototype. Awesome stuff! You guys did a great job! Is there any chance of HBAR version ever releasing? And if so will there be any fluting? It’s less material but more area for heat to dissipate. Would be interesting to see how it performs!
Great concept! Can we please get a HBar 14.5” dimpled or fluted? Would love to see how that compares to your standard HBar both in durability and accuracy. Also if taking requests a 223 wylde chamber and 1:8 would be the cherry on top!
20 + years ago, a US Army unit soldier had his support hand injured when he tried to shoot several Beta-C drums through his M4. The barrel melted and a bullet exited about 5 inches from the chamber. It went through the handguard into the guy's hand...
Golden web just did another geissele upper that went 1633 rounds. It has a new heavy barrel. That’s seriously impressive. I run a URGI upper and think it’s the best there is
This is a nice example of how a company should respond to a test of their product. Positive community interactions instead of hate, accusations and lawsuits.
We always encourage feedback and honest testing. Good, bad, or indifferent. It's how we grow as a company and continue to provide quality products that you have unwavering confidence in.
Truth.
@@GeisseleAutomaticsAmazing company.
This is my I run the URGI!!!!
Sounds like some words for Kights
This is a great response that can potential lead to an improved product.
But what is even more important is that you have gained a lot of trust and respect from the gun community
Trust, brother?
The whole video was emblematic of geissele as a company in a nutshell - talking about solutions and materials, from bolt carrier material to barrel steels and profiles that have been created, implemented and used by other companies for many years as though geissele just came up with them for the very first time
Also, a bit chickenshit to try to portray the only issue as being the gas tube needing replacement when the video footage shows that the barrel droop is so severe that the replacement gas tube doesn't cycle the bolt anyway and the upper functions exactly the same as it would with the damaged gas tube
Agreed and well said.
@@PolenarTactical I really enjoyed that the whole video was emblematic of geissele as a company in a nutshell - talking about solutions and materials, from bolt carrier material to barrel steels and profiles that have been created, implemented and used by other companies for many years as though geissele just came up with them for the very first time
Also, a bit chickenshit to try to portray the only issue as being the gas tube needing replacement when the video footage shows that the barrel droop is so severe that the replacement gas tube doesn't cycle the bolt anyway and the upper functions exactly the same as it would with the damaged gas tube
@@navyman8903 nice seeing you again 😀
We are truly humbled by the response! We want to take every opportunity to support the gun community that we can.
This is why Geissele is my primary go-to for rifles now. Respect for responding to this video and showing us the gun afterwords. I'm not sure another company has done this before. Keep doing what you're doing.
Fancy seeing you here!
Thank you for your support, and we were excited to share it! Material choice and design are incredibly important to us.
First thing I thought when I saw the video was "navyman is going to love this"
Hello there
Hey navy, you see the most recent super duty hbar burn down? 1600+ rounds!
KAC is even more pissed now.
as a owner of four KAC my feelings were hurt
Same here. I was a proud owner of the SR15. But as soon as the Super Duty and the SR15 Melt Down came out, I went ahead and replaced it with 2 Super Duty uppers and still have some extra money left.
It crazy that people actually buy KAC products…leave that garbage for tax payer funded disappointment.
What was hilarious is people that were defending kac from their disappointing performance.
Wow, a company doing something cool as a response! This should be the PR blueprint for product testing. I’m so sick of seeing litigation threats and takedown letters. I’m really glad I went with your trigger rather than the others out there.
This is the most professional and respectable responses I've ever seen by any company. I always had a ton of respect for Geissele, but this takes it to another level. Taking constructive feedback on an already incredible product and working to make it better is amazing to see. Unfortunately, Hurricane Ian took my URGI near Fort Myers Beach 2 years ago. Since then, i've been saving up for a Super Duty but haven't pulled the trigger yet on one. If this heavy barrel and custom gas block/gas tube goes into production, it'll be a must have. Very excited to see the results of the upcoming test!
Fort Myers beach really took a beating 😔🙏🏻 hope your new gun build goes well
@@infamous5369 Yes, it was devastating. Thank you very much for the kind words, sir 🤝
Hey g$, just wanted to say this fantastic response was the reason that pushed me over the edge to purchase a Super Duty. Give your marketing and customer service folks a raise for being genuinely curious about your own products. Gives me confidence in my purchase. Keep being nerdy with your designs and manufacturing and caring about the small stuff.
Respect. This is how a company should respond.
Geissele is the best AR maker in the business. You cannot convince me otherwise. When I have had issues, even two years after purchase, they offer to fix it for no charge. I own a ridiculous amount of their products. They are simply the best. And before you ask, I own KAC, LMT, DD, etc.
Geissele team, Mr. bill, please keep the videos coming and uphold the reputation you worked so hard to build.
I’m with you. I’ve had BCMs and Geisseles and there’s no comparison to the G.
We appreciate your testimony! Whether its 2 years or 20 we want to make sure you are confident in not only the product, but the manufacturer behind it. Thank you for the support!
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Cool that you guys are doing this, gonna be interesting to see how the Heavy does.
We are excited for the opportunity! We hope to see the results soon!
Stryker, the video is up now on Golden's channel, I won't spoil it for you 😉
@@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 I saw it the minute it dropped. I was honestly surprised. I thought it was going to take months before we saw the video with the heavy.
So basically you recreated the original Colt LMG with the reinforced thicker gas tube along with the extra thick bbl. The Colt IAR used a similar bbl with the standard gas tube. So the new upper will require a H3 buffer where your previous would require and H2 to prevent bolt carrier bounce. More than likely, the bolt will be the failure point in this condition unless barrel
erosion causes gas leakage lowering port pressures inducing short stroking.
SAS always coming through with the knowledge.
LMT improved bolt as a solution?
My thoughts exactly. Copy what Colt did.
Hey have you heard of red right hand uppers? They are basically doing this but also have heat sinks for the barrel and gas tube to allow the system to run longer and help prevent cook offs. If you can get your hands on one I’d enjoy hearing what you have to say about them!
Why would the heavier barrel profile need a heavier buffer weight?
Absolutely solidifies my new love for Geissele. Not only did the round count convince me the Super Duty is my next choice for a ( kinda ) affordable AR that'll out last me. Simple Carpenter here whos dollars are few and hard earned. This video proves to me, again, Geissele is the company i trust the most. By far. I've seen videos with Bill and thought , this guy is unparalleled. Well it seems his company and employees might be as well. Love the fact that they're in my state and only a couple of hours away from me.
Never woulda thought such a highly regarded company would be in my back yard.
The meltdown video confirmed what most of us already knew, Geissele is the best in the biz. Full stop.
Great job Jason! I miss seeing you over at TW.
Huge fan of this new style of content from yall. Keep up the good work gentlemen!
I love this, all companies need to respond like this! Love your triggers and also people don't sleep on Geissele's GO Juice.
Very cool breakdown and autopsy…
Just bought my SDMod1 over the 4th of July sale and absolutely love it.
Thank you for doing this video
I love that you guys had the guts to actually look into what happened, post it yourselves, send out ANOTHER upper to be melted down, and posted on that video about inspecting that upper as well. I don't own a G yet, unfortunately.... but I will be the proud owner of one soon!
Very classy response, Geissele!
You guys are hardcore - very appreciative of how you are able to engineer the likely failure point to be the least impactful to the shooter - gas tube versus the barrel itself being compromised - my hat's off to you - Geissele rocks !!!
The fact that you guys looked at this like a challenge and a way to improve your stuff says it all! We all know these meltdown tests are not real world - but they are a hell of a torture test. Well done.
I love my Super Duty. Only 2k rounds but it’s been flawless for me. Great product and a great company.
Nice follow up from Geissele! A great brand and product!
You guys are amazing! My URGI is amazing! You guys truly care about your products! Customer for life.
I absolutely love my super duty thank you for making such an amazing rifle!
Great follow up guys! Enjoy seeing you have fun with this as well as dig out more details!
My SD is very accurate and reliable. No plans to go full auto though! 😀
The prototype gas block and a straight gas tube should be available as an option to upgrade existing superdutys. I would buy it today if I could!
We appreciate the feedback! We always pass on suggestions like this to our project teams.
Second this. Is there any reason why the is couldn’t become the new standard? I have already seen some manufacturers switching over to straight gas tubes to reduce the potential failure that normally occurs at the bend in milspec gas tubes.
They merely copied Colt's gas tube for their light machinegun AR. It's actually a bad idea to use one on a standard AR. The gas tube is essentially a fuse to stop you from blowing up the barrel. Plus, unless you're using the AR as a light machinegun, you'll never need a heavy duty gas tube. Wasted weight.
@GeisseleAutomatics definitely release that new prototype and you got yourselves a winner. A gun that can perform and win the trust of many.
@@ryotatakuma6117are you planning on ever rapidly firing 1000 rounds consecutively?
The H-Bar barrel did great. I'm ready for pre-order, point me in the right direction and take my money. 😂😂😂😂😂
This is good to see. I bought the 14.5 barrel, bomb-proof install, the MK16 rail, and the EBCG when it still had the 168+ bolt.
The difference is I went with a inconel gas tube. Using that gas tube was just insurance since I'm hoping to never have to see 900 rounds of continuous fire out of it.
Makes me feel good I chose a Geissele Super duty rifle! Amazing rifle and company behind it.
This was super cool, good on you GeisseleAutomatics.
“Let’s do an autopsy, and figure this out.” As we can all clearly see a badass rifle with a mid length slinky system. 😂 ❤️
Great video and product
Bomb proof gas block indeed brother, that’s insane! Edit - just got to the Garand Thumb reference about shooting around corners and was cracking up, you guys are awesome
I cannot give this video a big enough “Thumbs Up”.
just watched the hbar meltdown video and it completely destroyed all of the competition. Glad to know the 11.5 and 14.5 uppers I have were well worth the money... keep up the good work guys
I love seeing a manufacturer getting involved with Goldenwebb's videos. His video on the Sig MCX is what convinced me to buy one, and It looks like a Geissele is in my future now.
That is going to be one AWESOME meltdown video.
My 11.5 super duty is flawless and watching the original video of the melt down made me love my purchase
Super cool, love that you guys are doing this!
Settle down Dean, don't get too excited!
Geissele LMG is now on the wish list
Top tier company, can't wait to make the super duty my next rifle when I get the money saved up haha
I already knew Geissele made top shelf firearms and enjoyed the meltdown video. This response is just great to see!
Ohhh wow I thought this was a spoiler for the NEW meltdown video. That’s an awesome upgrade and I hope y’all make some of these in the future.
Boi do I appreciate my super duty even more now. Love geissele. Had my 10.3 SD for years and never had an issue with it
After seeing all the meltdown videos, I started to notice the trend was that all of the best uppers always still eventually failed for the same reason, the gas tube. I was wondering who would be the first to jump out ahead of the standard gas tube failures and provide a functional upgrade that makes the AR-15 platform upper "meltdown proof" when paired with an extended full auto schedule of fire.
Much respect to you guys for being the ones to step up with exactly what I was imagining as the solution; the only part I'm upset about is that I'm not also a part of the kickass team that gets to do this kind of thing from time to time.
Looking forward to the results!
I love my Super Duty. Y’all are the best
I have three. Great rifles.
Geissele with a heavy barrel and an upgraded gas tube? Fuckkkkkk yeahhhhhh. I’ve been waiting for something like this too drop for so long.
Daniel defense m4a1 block 2 with socom barrel from brownells is basically the same thing but u have socom heavy barrel that will last the same and isnt quite as thick. Idk why they didnt go with that as it is proven and not quite as heavy but will last just the same. Run till the rifling burn out and loose pressure.
That 16 in knocked it out the PARK💪🏾
The prototype barrel looks very similar to the one that came on my HK MR556 and it is a CHONKY boi. Ive been wanting Webb to run one for the longest but HK said it couldn't be done. Good break down fellas 🤙🏼
Love your products!
This is awesome! Love all my Geissele gear!
Wonderfull ! love it
When can we buy Geissele heavy barrels!?
I'll buy a 14.5 HDSD upper in a heart beat. A perfect accompaniment to my 10.3 SD !!!!!
There has been an incredible response to the upper, and we always pass this feedback along to our project teams. Stay signed up for the newsletter, if we decide to move forward with the heavy barrel it will be announced there and on other social media.
Great response. Can’t say enough good about Geissele
I'm pumped I've been waiting for you guys to have a heavy barrel I put heavy barrels in all my rifles
I got a Geissele SD Mod 1 14.5” and that hammer sleeps next to me every night. You can’t beat the quality. For God and Country 🇺🇸🦅2️⃣A
Thanks for the video.
I enjoyed watching that test earlier and I’m glad you guys are sending a heavier barrel for testing
I just want to know when that new upper will be available for the consumer!!! I have wanted a hbar rifle for a while now and would love to have one!!!! Please make this a new production complete upper/complete rifle!
This is why my 16" Super Duty is my "if I had to take one" rifle. The barrel is just a beast. I love it.
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Kool a super super duty ben is going to eat it up
We want more. faster stronger made in the USA 🇺🇸! Thanks team Giessele!
This is awesome. I watched that meltdown and I was impressed but I think it’s super cool that you guys made a beefed up version and I hope you sell them as an option because I would definitely take the heavier barrel version.
another reason why geissele is one of my favorite companies
Pretty awesome to see that y’all are doing this. Hopefully all that have been done will do the same.
I now own a 13.9 G upper because of these videos
You guys definitely need to start selling these!
I tend to watch reviews and research products. I am interested in. After research and watched the original burndown video.
I will be adding this to my next purchase. The company resonds to their products also cemented my decision.
After seeing the results of the new upper, I want to buy one…
This response video sold me. My next upper will be a geissele
Go ahead and start the assembly line. I will preorder one!!!!
Goldenwebb's video is why I bought a Super Duty upper. Put it on a PSA lower with Daniel Defense furniture and a Geissele trigger.
It will probably start cooking off round around the 1,000 round mark due to the heat build up of the heavy barrel. It would be awesome to incorporate small barrel fins on the heavy profile to allow for faster cooling of the barrel so it can survive longer.
Please make the HBAR barrel. In all lengths also.
I'd love to see an 11.5 HBAR
Just watched goldenwebb new meltdown video of the hbar upper. Yeah, we need this in 14.5 and 16in uppers, please. Thank you!
The new burndown on the HBar is awesome. I would happily spend my duckets on this product. Please Geissele indulge the masses. Maybe an 18in Hbar for this old paratrooper?
This makes me want a gizzy gun. Good on y’all
Guess who I am buying my next AR from? This is how a company should react to their product being tested and yes they stated it was part scientific and part entertainment. For me I saw a positive reaction from a company. Grats guys!
Geissele should definitely make that heavy barrel, gas tube, and gas block a regular item. I’d buy one.
It's great to see a company actually give a damn about their customers. I am going to guess that heavy barrel will do 2k rounds. If it does, I hope you make that upper available.
Let’s get these in the current production lineup!
I'll say ,1900, can't wait to see the results.
my bank account will cry before I can melt that heavy barrel profile 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love Geissele. Damn, i thought they were gonna repeat the 901 round test with new gas tubes until the barrel droops lower
Good video. Still love my urgi 14.5. Hit 1k rounds last week.
I will absolutely buy a heavy barrel super duty!
I'd love to see you guys do your version of a bufferless DI that is bomb proof like your DI's.
Yes please!!! We would like to see an option to buy a HB SB upper or complete rifle.
V Seven makes an INCONEL gas tube. May be see how that survives vs the rest of the upper.
2:18 Gas tube was designed as a failure point to keep the barrel from drooping and causing a round to penetrate the side if the barrel
An added benefit to the HBAR upper is you can sell complete rifles to those of us unfortunate enough to live in Maryland!
Just saw Ben’s torture test with a prototype. Awesome stuff! You guys did a great job! Is there any chance of HBAR version ever releasing? And if so will there be any fluting? It’s less material but more area for heat to dissipate. Would be interesting to see how it performs!
Very cool! How come no inconel gas tube?
P.s. i own 7 G rifles and Imma get some more 🍾
Awesome.
Now if you all would make a Short heavy barrel (5.56 please not .300) I'd be all in!!!!
Great concept! Can we please get a HBar 14.5” dimpled or fluted? Would love to see how that compares to your standard HBar both in durability and accuracy. Also if taking requests a 223 wylde chamber and 1:8 would be the cherry on top!
I was curious about a dimpled as well.
20 + years ago, a US Army unit soldier had his support hand injured when he tried to shoot several Beta-C drums through his M4. The barrel melted and a bullet exited about 5 inches from the chamber. It went through the handguard into the guy's hand...
Golden web just did another geissele upper that went 1633 rounds. It has a new heavy barrel. That’s seriously impressive. I run a URGI upper and think it’s the best there is