Geissele Super Precision Optic Mount - Return-To-Zero Test
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- The Geissele Super Precision line of optic mounts was developed at the request of the Department of the Defense. What they were looking for was a mount that had the best possible return to zero when being removed and reattached. We achieved this request beyond their expectations by utilizing the best materials, the best manufacturing processes and the most accurate equipment. Neal Mckillips, lead engineer on the Super Precision line of optic mounts will take it away from here.
Yes, turn the laser off when you re-tighten the mount. He was using the monitor to know when to stop torquing the rear nut. The laser looked like it was going to shift further off zero...I demand a re-test.
My thought exactly!! If it’s so precise make that bitch with a QD lever!!! And do the same test ....
You had me sold until you were tightening the last bolt and stopped tightening when you watched the laser on your iPad land back on zero.
Leave the laser off and do another random non torque tightening and then turn the laser back on. If it returns to zero then I'm sold.
I'd also like to say this is not a bash. I love your company and 3 of my rifles have your triggers. Keep up the great work!
I was thinking the same thing when he tightened the front nut it moved and like wise the second it went back, but he could see how much tension/torque to put on it to get it back to zero. So here's my question. Does the return to zero relate to the amount of torque that the nuts are zeroed at? Example, if the mount is zeroed with the nuts torqued to 50 inch/lbs. If I take off the mount, do I have to torque to exactly 50 inch/lbs to get that same zero? What if I only torque to 30 inch/lbs? Will I get the same zero?
I partially agree with this statement, however knowing what I know from my mechanical background, I understand star torquing and it's impacts on how concentric something of cylindrical shape will torque down. No matter what, as long as both bolts are tightened even marginally to the same amount, the return to zero in this situation will be literally on point "almost" If you just continued tightening both nuts back and forth, you'd eventually hit a wall where you'd be torquing against your threads/ picatiny to the point to where the amount of difference between torque between your two mounting nuts would be so similar/ negligible that your zero would be unaffected. So long as you zeroed your rifle at this torque point, then when you tighten down to this felt position, you'd know you were at your return to zero. That was the whole point of him empathizing the fact that you don't even need a torque wrench, in that you could go off feel alone and that it actually isn't rocket science to find that return to zero point. I'm sure he and you could find that point fairly easily by feel.
Hey Geissele peeps! We've been using a ton of your mounts and they are without a doubt some of the best on the market. We were running Spuhrs almost exclusively before your mounts were released.
We did, however, have a few suggestions on how this demonstration might be improved. When retorquing the mount, you can see the person in the video focusing not on the bolt he is tightening, but on the screen, making sure the laser returns to zero. What I would like to see is a demonstration of the torque insensitivity of the mount. Torque it randomly with the laser off, then turn it on to see the results. Or torque it initially at some optimal value, then remove and retorque to a few different values across the acceptable range. I'd love a chance to play with this testing setup!
Thanks again for innovating and being generally awesome.
Who's "we"?
Wow so magical!
I believe that Geissele is one of America's best small arm parts suppliers. Having said that the whole purpose of having a mount that is a return to zero is that in the field a person can change optics without re-zeroing them. This fellow uses a monitor to see how far the nut needs to be tightened. I can't wait till Geissele makes their QD version. It appears that this is a test vehicle for that.
Awesome demo. Thanks Geissele team!
The laser really should have been turned off when you remounted the laser and were tightening the mounting bolts. Or the bolts should have been torqued to the same spec each time. Being able to see the laser on the target showed you when to stop tightening the bolts.
This is an awesome review. Thanks for the time taken to put this together. For the record, I'm sold and I'm waiting for the scope mounts to be available so that I can place my order.
Could you make these exact comparisons using other scope mounts from different manufacturers? It would be awesome to compare the difference between Geissele scope mounts versus the rest and how they hold/don't rtz. Thanks
Damn, that's impressive!
Ok so I got the super precision scope and couldn’t justify the cost of the Geissele mount. I went ahead and bought a different brand mount. I figured they are all the same. I started to think it was normal to have to adjust to zero every time the scope was taken on and off. Now I see the old mantra “you get what you pay for” applies here more than ever. I should have ponied up for the Geissele mount. Hey Geissele it’s Christmas time. I already bought your SD rifle and scope. How about hookin up a loyal customer with a ddc mount for my super precision 1-6? :-)
Hell Yeah ! Well done teamGeissele ! .......
Please make a Super Precision Acog mount. Thanks!
That's pretty good.
so... return to zero is a 2 inch blob @ 140?
Is there a QD mount in the works?
+smokeu600 Yes we are working on a QD version. The DoD wanted the maximum RTZ. To do that we used an improved version of the classic nut and clamp method. This method provides 3-4x the amount of clamping force compared to every other QD option out there. We will not release a QD version until we are able to bring it up to a clamping force that will ensure proper RTZ. But the short answer to your question, is yes, we are in the process of developing QD.
+GeisseleAutomatics
Can't wait
I need this for my ACOG and a lower 1/3rd for my MRO!
I've got some old Bushnell rings that line up just like that. Not really.
I can't tell if my man is drunk or nervous
2 years and still no retest?
Hi Gabe, retest for what? The Super Precision line of Optic Mounts have been field tested around the world. They were built on request by the Department of Defense and they continue to outperform their specifications.
@@GeisseleAutomatics How is that QD mount coming along? Still in the works?
Looks like on your return tighten you were a little low.
Looks like you didn't watch the whole video.....that was low on finger tight. With the nuts "torqued" down it RTZ'd
It was all hyped up that the mount clamping system was so much better than QD because even finger tight it would RTZ. So basically it's like most other good mounts where if you torque it back to spec it'll return to zero?
Wow
this guy is odd