What Is a Cat D2 Worth? How I Assess Value When Looking At Crawler Tractors & D2
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2021
- Let's look at the good, the bad, & figure out what this tractor's past life was like.
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“Left the key in it, I see.” That was a good one!
I laughed why to hard at that 🤣
I never knew I wanted a Cat D2. Mainly, because I did not know they existed. Awesome walk around. Thanks man
I recently bought a 1956 D4 with a 10' blade and direct 24volt start for $8,000 it had been stored inside for the last 20 years and runs like a top.
I'll probably never have a D2. If I were to buy a dozer to go with the excavator and tractor, it would be something newer. Yet, I find these videos on the old dozers and your rebuild series absolutely captivating. Thanks, Toby.
agreed, truly love this old machinery and American engineering
Squatch is back! Like the field work and other videos but the old Cat iron videos is what really drew me into the Channel. Cannot wait for 5J1113 to return to the big screen.
A confident man talking about something he knows about.
Really interesting to hear your thought process. I work on old cars through a church car ministry. People donate old cars, and we fix up the ones that makes sense, then give them to people that don't have enough resources to purchase a car. Donated cars go through an evaluation to see if it should be fixed up or scrapped. One learns to be a little ruthless. Can't save them all. Thank you for sharing your evaluation.
Thank you for helping those less fortunate 👍
Wow, that was an impressive walk around. Really appreciate the detail.
I am using this video in my AG business class this week. ( Thanks Squatch) We are looking at machinery costs and this is a great break down of an old crawler and the process of buying used.
I've loved crawlers since boyhood - the family sawmills first Caterpillar was a 30, then a 15, then the Korean War and Dad joined the Navy. What an excellent find - hope it exceeds your expectations.
You mentioned Cats , and the Navy . My freind Bob Hathaway , who passed away recently , fought in the landings against theJapaneese .He never fired a shot , but he was the first off the landing barge on a little Cat , back-filling the trenches and tunnels , with all the troops behind him .
I would love to find one in that good of condition. Never seen one that nice for sale .
Thanks Squatch. A D2 Cat is one of the first Cat Tractors that I drove as a kid. Later, I moved up to a Cat Sixty. One of my fondest memories was when I went to an estate auction and ran into an older friend and mentor, late Don Dougherty (who owned one of the largest Cat and truck collections on the west coast.) At the end of the day, he had bought a couple Cat's one being a D2, and as a kid, I got to drive it one the trailer. then got paid for helping him load up other items he had bought. I loved going out to Dons place, Cat heaven. Tent after tent of tractors! Yes its true there are alot of agricultural Cats on the west coast, many still in use. Where I live, the Cats were used for logging, so many of them if they are still around are pretty warn. One case of this is a D2 that a friend owned that he just sold to a neighbor who is interested in showing it. It was in fair rough shape and let it go for $500.00
Gosh I appreciate all the information you share!!! Few years ago I was able to relocate my old D6 Cat that I used to own. Lost track of it almost 30 years ago. It’s been found sitting in the woods on a farm. Man I’d enjoy having it back to fix up and get running again, even for old sentimental reasons you might say. I’d been from radiator to drawbar in it. It’s a dozer with double drum LaTourneau cable control until. It’s 4R series. I had new pins and bushings put in the tracks by Cat before I sold it. Pads are at least 50% better, sails are good, rebuilt both users, new drive sprockets, rebuilt the pony motor, radiator all gone through and cleaned, new cutting blade and ears. Don’t think it saw much work after I sold it, but I understand from the owner he dropped a valve in the diesel and had to replace a piston. So they’ve been inside the diesel and I would trust what they would do to fix a lawn mower!! So God knows I wouldn’t trust things now! But I’d like to have it back. But I appreciate all you share with us!!! Be safe.
Always interesting to listen to your thought process and admire the knowledge you have keep bringing them on thank you
I got an old 1942 cat d2 that I want to get back going. It ran when I bought it and I’ve had it parked a couple years. No shop is the reason why I haven’t got into it yet but your videos are so helpful and I thank you for taking the time to do so. I think it’s worth saving as the last owner wanted to scrap it
I was going thru D2 withdrawal and went back and started watching the 1113 series again.....LOL
That was very interesting. For someone like me who knows nothing about them but enjoy the daylights out of watching you restore them I really enjoyed the thought process of why they are worth what they are. Thanks...
Liked👍 And subscribed based just on this video alone. I felt you did an awesome job of teaching folks how to assess the value of a dozer. Never occurred to me how many components need to be looked at to determine a fair price. I appreciate your time and effort putting this video together 👍
i used to drive one on the farm, and they pull very well.
As an appraiser of heavy equipment for over 25 years with twelve of those years working for a Cat dealer and several more working for other dealers, I have to say you did a great job of showing what the process is all about. Too many times I've seen people sitting at a desk listen to a basic description and then spout their idea of value. Great job and thank you for the video!
Great video. I know a little about tractors, but zero about crawlers. Great explanation on mechanics that made perfect sense. Great explanation on the cents, that made perfect sense. You have great verbal skills and technical knowledge. You teach very effectively to people such as myself. I thank you
Thanks for all the good information on what to look for and what problems lead to other problems.
Glad to see you post another video ! I have been off work for the past 8 weeks and I caught myself watching Rick Bork and actually enjoying it, thanks for the reality check !
So i'm here wiriting from Germany - been looking for small crawler tractors like the Caterpillar D2 for a while, you don't get to see these around here very often. The last D2 i saw on Ebay marketplace (very badly oversprayed, but presumadly running) was listed for around 19.000€.
Far away from my budget.
Crawler tractors are pretty rarely seen around here, we almost only got weeled tractors before and after the secound world war.
I've collected a few old machines from around here, and restored some of them, like a Fendt Farmer 3s from 1967, so i know some of what it takes to bring an old machine back to working order.
Been whatching your channel for a long time, very good contend, keep it up!
Greetings, Johannes
Thank you for the detailed break-down of what to look for. I'm an ex Army mech who wants one to tinker with up here in the Redwoods where the Patterson film was made of Sasquatch. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing your thought process, Squatch! You sure do know your Caterpillars! 🇺🇸🚜👍
Great video! I have a feeling that you have saved thousands and thousands of dollars for people with videos like this. Many thanks for doing this and all the other awesome videos!
Ah, that's some good D2 crack for an addict viewer right there! I love a good parts machine. Now the "Wil it run" vid next and I'll be in heaven.
@@squatch253 The external fuel tank looks the same as the soviet KD-35 has. Probably also dimensional wise. Tried to share a link but youtube dose not like external links being posted.
@@SuperMAZ007 The restrictions on links in UA-cam comments are chosen by the original video posters to keep the bots off. If you want to alert us to a related subject you can just type in something to make a Google search easy. (No HTTP or .com etc) 😉
Devcon will take care of worn splines. I used Devcon on my 1968 John Deere skidder hub splines which were really loose back in about 1980 and they have never came loose. Just as solid as the day they were built.
Nice to hear pricing on the value of it. most do not say a word
I was told that anything is worth as much money as you can get another man to pay lol that was my grandfather’s advice for selling stuff I learned so much from that statement
I laughed so hard when you said they left the key in it lol good stuff buddy thanks for sharing
You sold me. Only spent a little time on crawlers.
My father inlaw blamed his bad back on Cat.
Thanks Squatch.
Your thought process is right on! Across the road I’ll pay good money, across the state “I’m not interested”. Gas is expensive and time is money, I have too many other things to do. The sad reality’s of life! I still think you’d make a good teacher. Keep doing what you’re doing!
I found a D2 a couple years ago out in the middle of the California desert. It was equipped with a winch mounted to the side to pull pipe or fence post not quite sure. Its been abandoned probably for at least 10 years. Thinking about getting a couple batteries,deisel, and water and firing it up.
Definitely a video I'd watch. Good luck.
You know your dozers!!
My 1949 D2-5U is still getting the job done. It has a hydraulic blade in front and a hydraulic ripper bar in the back.
I'll be looking for one of those for my land this spring. Not looking for a restored one, just a "good" runner that will be dependable without needing to spend a fortune. Be nice to find one with a blade.
Thank you for sharing your process and knowledge.
Great video! As a cat wannabe owner it’s Nice to understand what to look for
Absolutely awesome video. I have a D6 9U that I bought years ago knowing nothing. I know the machines are different but I’m anxious to go look at mine
Just for fun; I watched a video yesterday of a CAT 964 I believe wheel loader being transported on a low boy trailer! 740Km transport! They had to remove the cab and once the loader was on the trailer, the back tires were on top of the tandem axles. So they had to let air out of the loader tires to go under bridges. The trip looked like it was the Alps, narrow roads, hair pin turns, up and down mountains, driving in the middle of the road. IIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! 😞😓😩 That loader was as long as a football field and half of each tire stuck out past the trailer frame. There ain't enough money to pay me to haul that! 😀
*"Long winded!"*
Nope! Too short!
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the dog and pony show (show & tell) great knowledgeable overview.
Ive always wanted one of these. Cool piece ya got there.
My dad has a 43 d4 it was completely restored by an old fella just before he past, the guy that inherited it and we got it from let it set for 10 years he couldn’t get the pony to turn and gave up on it, turns out it was still in gear with the cat, started right up
Great job! You are the Chiltons guide to the Cat D2.
You left us hanging there with the”pull it around the yard and see if it makes smoke”
@@squatch253 I’ll be waiting
Yep, a teaser. I was all ready to see some smoke. Can’t wait for it. I always enjoyed helping my dad get something running when we had to pull it.
I grew up running IH T-6’s,TD-6’s and Allis Chalmers HD6’s. I think I’m getting more partial to Cats
I'm glad I already own my Franken-Clanken D2 and then watched this. Of course I'm still not done with it. But if this gem could be scrap with worse undercarriage and more common front idlers, I hate for you to see mine. I believe she's a '49 as well. I really want to finish the tractor up this winter when work slows. I was in school riding the bus when I first saw my D2 (5U3591) I fell in love. Then I got my license, then graduated, worked on school buses for 2 1/2 years at my old school. Saved up and brought her. Had to borrow but paid back as soon as I could. It's 10 years later, it's not what I would have done now as an older man, yet, it's my own and the only of it's kind. I do want to have a proper D2 someday, but in the meantime I have my unique 5U, and to confirm what I already pretty much knew, it's completely worthless haha! Someday I'm going to make a video about it, I'll have mixed reactions I'm sure lol. Thank you for everything you've done to educate with #1113 and the continuing with the latest sweetheart to the fleet. I know work on heavy equipment and "Michigan gravel trains" amongst other equipment, running a service truck and working in the shop, I think that little locked up D2 set me up for a career.
@@squatch253 Very well put, I don't want to detract from that, so I'm just going to say thank you and hope others gain from all you and the community you built have to offer
Can't wait for the D4 Rebuild !! 👍
he knows his D2 very well. thanks
Not fair!! Not fair at all. Now I have to wait for the smoke verdict. Smile. Extra fine walkaround. So cool to hear the real deal about condition and value.
Thank you, that was very very informative,appreciated.
"Geography", WHERE a D2 is located, even within any particular state, is sometimes everything. D2s are plentiful in California, but if they are found in a barn in a relatively urban area they are nearly worthless. Last one in my area sold for $500.
Move it to the central valley where the farms are (Modesto, Turlock, etc.) and you can possibly double, triple, or quadruple its selling price.
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something!!!! 5U 3369 has H D undercarraige stump pan PTO belt pulley and electric system (start and lights) $10000 U S or $18000 Canadian!! I thought the fork on front idler could be flipped over to change height up for turning(ag use down for dozer stability) Great vid!!!
This is good information. I was looking at one about half a year ago that the guy wanted $4500 for, but it had a bad radiator, the pony motor had no compression, and looked like it had done about two life times of dozer work. I though the guy was asking way to much, and now I'm glad that you confirmed what I was thinking.
@@squatch253 what is the HP out put for a D2 Cat ? How wide of a dozer blade do they normally have on them and rear Ripper ? About how much drawbar pull do they have ?
Holy Crap, I learned more on your video than i could have in days of research...thank you..I'm looking for a D4 for multiple uses on my property..I would really love it if you could do an assessment on the new Project Minotaur CTL which is now out...which is a combo dozer and loader switch out....of course the marketing department speaks well, I would love a wise old dog like yourself to weigh in on it...it saves buying two machines, but the question is does it...thanks a million, one of the best vids i have watched
Very informative- much appreciated!
Great info as usual! Thanks.
Very good information! Thanks!
That was a very helpful walk around,
Fantastic information. Wonderful presentation.
Some of you might think I am crazy for wanting to do this but I really really want to drive one of these across country.
brilliant mate thanks for a great video. just brought one the same today and not knowing a thing about em this was very helpful!
A lot of great information there for us lesser cat enthusiasts thank you 👍 and you left us hangin by a thread with the thought of a possible start up 🤔😳☹️😂
This was really educational.
Excellent video it's tough to set a value on crawlers your absolutely right about how the condition plays such a key role in the prices
@@squatch253 I can only imagine that I know how expensive it's to repair wheel tractors
That was pretty cool, thanks for sharing. 😃
Great information in this one. I wish it was a couple weeks earlier when I saw a running D2 sell for 800 bucks. I have restored military jeeps and power wagons, not sure how much heavy equipment is required for a D2 though...... Can't wait to see what comes next. When does shop construction start??? LOL
6:16 holly... that's about a cm of metal just gone. Gone with the wind. Unreal. I've never seen a drawbar that worn out on any tractor, and i've seen some pretty beer can tractors around my brother's farm. Feller was getting every cubic fraction of an inch worth out of that steel. :))
Good information thank you for making this video
This video did send me out to pull the steering levers so I could check the bevel gear condition... all was good...
good breakdown - thankyou.
My brother in law has a D2. It's been sitting a long time. I might see if we can getting it moving again. It's old. I've loved that tractor since I was a kid and I'm 65.
I believe the hour meter is actually based on a particular RPM for 1 hour = 1 hour on the meter. So not a clock. Actually reads engine revolutions . If you know what rpm = 1 hour, you can figure out how many times the engine has turned over in its life time.
@@squatch253 I have had ones in antique boats that were based on 2350 rpm for one hour. And 3200 for 1 hour. I think some older airplanes also have mechanical hour meters.
My Dad's best friend, best man at his wedding, and godfather to my six brothers and sisters was George Logue who had the world's largest private collections of Cats.
You definitely hit the main things to look at when deciding how to put a dollar amount on these old gals. Lots of these same points can be used as you get bigger through the product lines too.
I polished the seat 0f a 49 model D2 disking peach orchards around Grand Junction CO IN THE 959
The 1950s
Informative video. Thank you
That's a $7000 US tractor where I like in Canada. For some reason the further you get up north the worse it gets.
I think you should just hook that chain up to the Farmall give it a pull start and give it some starting fluid and see if it starts. If you use the thing 5 hours a year does it matter if the back end parts are worn ?
"They left the key in it." lol! :-D
I figured 5k, but what do I know.....great video.
The key was a good one. Feel better.
That pipe drain for the steering clutch compartment was interesting. I talked to an old timer here that was saying they would always just drill the plug and put a cotter pin through it once they started leaking bad.
Yep I have seen that on a main clutch housing too
How's the d4 coming along, I'm full confident you'll end up with a fine machine. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
Nice walk-around
I liked your plowing pics but honestly I'm ready to watch the grease start flying again. ;-)
Good information.
Great explanation, I believe I'd give er a bath and a new coat and keep er together. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
Thank you for the video..
As with any old crawler the price is governed by the condition of the trackgear. The bevelgear problem is to be expected
A another great video! You need a close buddy like Cutting Edge Engineering out of Australia! The heavy equipment repairs he does are amazing.
Great video. Thanks for sharing….
I also, would pay $2,000. for this tractor......But that is the limit...........You Are, Very Thorough...!!!
Clean it up and straiten the bent stuff and paint. Nice winter project.
Great video!
Good info, you know your d2s
Insightful.
I sure would love to have a crawler... But I don't know if it will be a possibility for me. It sure would be handy to have in clearing all this land! That looks real similar to those two I saw out in the U.P. that I sent you. I know the one for sure had the fender mounted fuel tank.
Great content
Earned my subscription!!!
Those holes in each track plate are called Mud holes
Cool...now back to assembly of 1113....
Looks like a good hook to hang a choker off the back there
Seat belt every time out here 😂😂😂