Hello Brandon, If I shot on vertical mode in a gimbal, how do I tell Gyro flow in Davinci resolve plugin that it is vertical. I could not figure it out, gyro flow crops it in 16x9 aspect ratio and there is no adjustment in the plugin to correct it. Thank you.
The lens profile is actually more than just focal length, it’s also distortion characteristics. I don’t know exactly how it works but unfortunately you need a specific profile for each lens to get the best results
I have been a subscriber to Unscripted Studio for years and have many of its courses. I can vouch for any as a keen amateur:e: Course content is awesome and the absolute clarity in Brandon's teaching style (as seen herein) is second to none IMHO. BTW The Fusion course is fantastic, too; it poses new approaches to the creative use of one's gear. I have no axe to grind hear; I am just a really happy subscriber to Unscripted Studio and Brandon's cinematography prowess'.
Hey, Brandon! Thanks for sharing all this content. Maybe I missed it... But at around 4:20, you mentioned that you'd shoot in 60P and that you'd explain why later. But I didn't see that discussion later in the video... Did I miss it?
If you want to use the final video in a 24fps timeline at real speed, is it still preferable to shoot in say 60P 1/200 shutter versus 24p 1/200 shutter for gyroflow?
One thing you didn't cover - why do you record in 60 fps? And thank you for this helpful video, I upgraded from A6400 to ZV-E10 just for the gyro stabilization feature.
It's worth mentioning that you're going to lose an awful lot of light by cranking up the shutter. That's the only real drawback with these gyro techniques. So you''ll need fast lenses and lots of light to get a decent exposure. Also, you'll have to add motion blur in post to avoid the Private Ryan shutter angle look. Finally, I'm not sure what benefit this particular software provides over the gyro processing already included in Resolve. Brandon didn't mention that. It would have been good to know. Cheers.
if in my project i have two different situations where one has almost static landscapes which can be shot at 24/25/30p and i also have fast movements that need 60p as you suggested how can they both be combined? what frame rate should my timeline has?
I understand the need for increased shutter speed. But why 60p recording frame rate on fast moving shots as well if your final project timeline is 24fps? Is this solely for increased flexibility for speed ramps or slowing down the footage? Or does it improve the ability of gyroflow to smooth?
@@BrandonLiUnscripted ditto! I’m on 23.98 also… with the introduction to 24fps on fx3, I wasn’t so sure if switching would make a diff. thanks for the response man!
Does Gyroflow work well with footage that used IBIS? or any other type of in camera image stabalization? Is the Gyro info correct or relavent in such cases?
Hey Brandon ,first of all well done for the excellent work you do. I just bought a Sony A6700 and a sigma 18-50 lens. I also use davinci resolve. So the procedure is this... I record at 60fps with shutter 1/200+. I use the gyroflow plugin in resolve, i press to open gyroflow, than i find my lens on the search bar and then finally i press to use gyroflow on this video and voila. 1)Is this procedure correct? 2)do i need to calibrate my lens or it exists on a database? I want to use only 20mm and 50mm Thanks in advance
Seems right. I use Gyroflow in fusion, in resolve. You don’t need the exact lens profile for your lens, just match the focal length to some existing profile and test it
I assume you’re using Gyroflow as standalone not plugin. Look for hardware acceleration options in the settings. For the plug-in, you don’t use it to render at all so there should be no change to bit depth
@@BrandonLiUnscripted right It was the standalone version. Do you know if it will work in the free version of resolve? Perhaps that will render at 10bit
Is there an ios/iphone app to record gyrodata? And if so how do i sync it with the actual camera video? Like i have sony a6000 which doesn’t have gyrodata…
Being able to not worry about ND filters and stabilise in post is a dream come true. The only issue is adding motion blur in post is a pain and I'm not getting great results from Davinci resolve's effects. Has anyone any experience with a third party motion blur plugin that works well?
Hey Brandon,i think i have a tought question. What about when shooting at very low light with the high shutter speeds that gyroflow needs? For example city landscapes at night.wouldnt it be very dark?
@@BrandonLiUnscripted thabk you very much for this.another question is how do i find the rolling shutter value for ny sony s6700 for different frame rates?
Hi buddy, I have a problem because it does not stabilize at 50fps, but at 25fps there is no such problem (it stabilizes both with body stabilization turned off and with standard and active stabilization). Body a7sIII
Very useful info. One question though, if you have to use fast shutter speed, wouldn't that mean you lose motion blur and that cinematic look? or do u artificially add motion blur after this?
Catalyst Browse does stabilization much better than Gyroflow but it renders out in lower quality 4k. So if you record 8k30, it will only render out in 4K with alot of compression.
Thank you! That answers many of my questions. One more question: do I have to turn off IBIS or lens stabilarion like the OSS in order to make Gyro Flow work?
deactivating internal ibis in a A7siii is essential that the process is successful or am i wrong? what about the ibis in a lens…also usefull to deactivate…i gave it a try after your last video and it really works…but beside the gyro step some shots also needed some motion blur in post…Brandon probably best teacher on the planet…and beside that a fantastic visual artist…
I'm hoping you explain in this vid how to get the ofx folder to recognize it, cause I can't even open/find an ofx folder for davinci resolve.....meaning I have no way to test it. I created an ofx folder in my finder/windows files, but then can't see it in davinci
I tried this after your last excellent video and it just won’t work for me and I got soooo frustrated I gave up. Maybe I’ll try again now I’ve calmed down lol. I think it’s due to my 24mm GM lens not being in the list so I tried all the most similar ones like you told me to in the last video but just could NOT get it to work in DR :(( thanks though I wish it worked for me like it does for you Brandon !!
Try to stabilize the same footage in Catalyst Browse (also free). If it works in Catalyst then that means you just need a better lens profile in Gyroflow
@@BrandonLiUnscripted ok thanks Brandon, I’ll try that ! I did try Catalyst Browse awhile ago and don’t like it so much. I hope I can get Gyro working due to the integration with DR. Thanks again !!
@@DanielAx thanks Daniel, I think I know the one you mean. There is a guy in a large studio and he shows you how to do that so I’ll go check it out. Thanks !
hey Brandon, again very useful tips in this video, thanx! 10:12 isn't it a workaround if you take a photo with a Zoom lens. In the exif data you have the exact focal length of the Zoom also in between min and max zoom factor. So you can tell Gyroflow in post, waht the focal length is.
You need a lens profile for your exact focal length, which you won’t have. If using a zoom lens you can either stay at the wide or tele end; or use Catalyst
@@subbbass yes, you can calibrate your lens profile at that exact focal length and it will work. Gyroflow also shows the exact focal length when calibrating the lens profile, even if it's something in between. At least with some Sony cameras, definitely with a7s3
@@AdrianEddy thank you. Yes, i looked up a jpeg made with my Sony A7Riii and a Sigma 24-70mm and in the exif data i found 25.4 mm focal length. so it's recording very precise. But I don't know about other cameras...
Can GyroFlow be used when using a lens with built-in stabilization and or Standard or Active Stabilization on Sony (FX3/A7SIII for example)? I've heard some claim that all lens and camera stabilization must be off but not sure if that's true. I'm using a Tamron 28-75 lens.
Can you or someone here make a video about how to install gyroflow (m2 max mac) for davinci resolve? Tried tens of times but it just doesn’t show up in the software
I watched the other video, ua-cam.com/video/HSHOe-hpZso/v-deo.html, several times, and still can't find the answer. I haven't seen any slowmo in any of these vids, so I don't think it's that. Also, 60fps doesn't convert to 24 (or 23.978) in any easy way, so I don't know how that would work.
24fps bakes in a large amount of blur, which is absolutely terrible. The premise of electronic stabilization is that you can't have any significant motion blur in your frames. You also want as high a frame rate as possible, ideally 60fps, for the stabilization to work well. When you're using a gimbal, motion blur is fine, because it happens in the same direction as the camera movement. But when hand holding an action shot, the electronic stabilizer is frequently moving in a different direction than the camera. This causes very unpleasant artifacts. You want as little motion blur baked in as possible. 90 degree shutter angle if you are walking very slowly, but 45 degree if you have any sort of action. You can always add motion blur later, but can't remove it. Also it's easier to convert 60fps into 30fps with a little motion blur added, but if your final target is 24fps, the technology is not there yet. It's super slow and not 100% perfect, full of artifacts, and/or jerky. Sorry, for the most cinematic 24fps 180 degree natural blur footage you still want a gimbal. But for travel vlogs, electronic stabilization might be a good option sometimes.
Watch my first video about Gyroflow to see how it works in the real world: ua-cam.com/video/HSHOe-hpZso/v-deo.html
good video ! gyroflow is the way ;-D
Hello Brandon, If I shot on vertical mode in a gimbal, how do I tell Gyro flow in Davinci resolve plugin that it is vertical. I could not figure it out, gyro flow crops it in 16x9 aspect ratio and there is no adjustment in the plugin to correct it. Thank you.
Yes. Catalyst browse works for Sony alpha with Sigma zoom lens. That's what I work with. Thanks a lot Brandon for clarifying all queries.
Gyro is a camera function not a lens attribute.
@@petrub27 you need to watch the video carefully. Gyro data also collects focal length of the lens to choose proper profile while stabilization.
The lens profile is actually more than just focal length, it’s also distortion characteristics. I don’t know exactly how it works but unfortunately you need a specific profile for each lens to get the best results
Terrific video, Brandon.
I personally tested Sigma 28-70 2.8 zoom lens in Gyroflow and it worked perfectly at 28 mm.
thanks for sharing
I have been a subscriber to Unscripted Studio for years and have many of its courses. I can vouch for any as a keen amateur:e: Course content is awesome and the absolute clarity in Brandon's teaching style (as seen herein) is second to none IMHO. BTW The Fusion course is fantastic, too; it poses new approaches to the creative use of one's gear. I have no axe to grind hear; I am just a really happy subscriber to Unscripted Studio and Brandon's cinematography prowess'.
So glad you’re happy with the course! I’ve been making some new in-depth shot breakdowns. Keep your eye on that section for new stuff!
Thank you, Brandon, for this video. After your first video about Gyroflow, there were a lot of questions.
Hey, Brandon! Thanks for sharing all this content. Maybe I missed it... But at around 4:20, you mentioned that you'd shoot in 60P and that you'd explain why later. But I didn't see that discussion later in the video... Did I miss it?
He inface did miss it haha
If you want to use the final video in a 24fps timeline at real speed, is it still preferable to shoot in say 60P 1/200 shutter versus 24p 1/200 shutter for gyroflow?
Answered my question from the previous video (about shutter). You're the best. Thank you!
One thing you didn't cover - why do you record in 60 fps?
And thank you for this helpful video, I upgraded from A6400 to ZV-E10 just for the gyro stabilization feature.
Covered in my previous video! Link in description
It's worth mentioning that you're going to lose an awful lot of light by cranking up the shutter. That's the only real drawback with these gyro techniques. So you''ll need fast lenses and lots of light to get a decent exposure. Also, you'll have to add motion blur in post to avoid the Private Ryan shutter angle look. Finally, I'm not sure what benefit this particular software provides over the gyro processing already included in Resolve. Brandon didn't mention that. It would have been good to know. Cheers.
Hey Brandon,how to find the correct rolling shutter coorection value? I have sony a6700
Than u must add blir in post?
if in my project i have two different situations where one has almost static landscapes which can be shot at 24/25/30p and i also have fast movements that need 60p as you suggested how can they both be combined? what frame rate should my timeline has?
I understand the need for increased shutter speed. But why 60p recording frame rate on fast moving shots as well if your final project timeline is 24fps? Is this solely for increased flexibility for speed ramps or slowing down the footage? Or does it improve the ability of gyroflow to smooth?
can I use Gyro Stabilization for the Fx30 + Tamron 17-70 2.8 or Sigma 16mm 1,4?
many thank Brandon, you amazing!
Thanks for touching on shutter speeds wrt gyro stabilization - super helpful!
@Brandon Li - are you shooting/editing on 23.98 or 24fps these days?
23.98, but I’m not sure if it matters at all. Essentially the same
@@BrandonLiUnscripted ditto! I’m on 23.98 also… with the introduction to 24fps on fx3, I wasn’t so sure if switching would make a diff. thanks for the response man!
Should I switch to Sony from Canon for gyro stabilizing videos? Canon doesn't offer gyro data out of box
Hi can we use Gyroflow on the free version of Davinci Resolve?
What about cameras that are not supported? Is it possible to stick a gopro on the rig and link its gyro data to the other cameras video?
Hey Brandon, I have the same Samyang VAF 24mm Lens, can you please tell the Filter you are using???
Hi Brandon, I'm getting a little fluttering at 1/50 with my Action camera in extremely low light with a gimbal will Gyroflow help? Thx
How can I stab 120fps 4K video in CB? Recording at the moment in XAVC s
To use gyroflow we should shoot at 60p and deliver 60p if we dont want any slo mo?
can it just not do vertical video? Like if i film with my camera vertically it seems to freak out gyroflow in davinci resolve
Very informative video. Thanks Brandon.
how about sony a6000? make a tutorial please
Can this be used with smart phone videos?
@BrandonLiUnscripted Does gyroflow support apple prores raw file in window ?
will there still a gyro metadata in 25/30/50/60 fps if you use 3rd party manual lens (no electronic connectors)?
No
@ thankyou for your reply :) +1 subscriber here
Does Gyroflow work well with footage that used IBIS? or any other type of in camera image stabalization? Is the Gyro info correct or relavent in such cases?
all internal stabilization including IBIS, OIS, and Active needs to be disabled for Gyroflow to work. That will change in future versions though
Hey Brandon ,first of all well done for the excellent work you do.
I just bought a Sony A6700 and a sigma 18-50 lens. I also use davinci resolve.
So the procedure is this...
I record at 60fps with shutter 1/200+.
I use the gyroflow plugin in resolve, i press to open gyroflow, than i find my lens on the search bar and then finally i press to use gyroflow on this video and voila.
1)Is this procedure correct?
2)do i need to calibrate my lens or it exists on a database? I want to use only 20mm and 50mm
Thanks in advance
Seems right. I use Gyroflow in fusion, in resolve. You don’t need the exact lens profile for your lens, just match the focal length to some existing profile and test it
@@BrandonLiUnscripted so if i dont want the whole project to be slow mo , since i recorded at 60p then i must use a 60p timeline right?
?
Can we use gyroflow in windows 8 please let me know
Incredibly useful information thank you. Also, is that Marcel from Free To Use Sounds in some of these clips? Haha
thanks so much. does this also work with 100 fps?
Depends on camera. Sony cams don’t record gyro above 60p
@@BrandonLiUnscripted Thanks so much for getting back. I always had that doubt using it with the SOnyA7s3. Love your videos. Cheers man.
In Davinci Resolve can you gyroflow stabilize multiple clips in one go?
No
is this for laptop/pc only or do they do a mobile phone version? thanks
On my M1 Pro MacBook I can’t keep my video encoded in 422-10bit with gyroflow. Technically I can but it’s unaccelerated and really slow using the cpu
I assume you’re using Gyroflow as standalone not plugin. Look for hardware acceleration options in the settings. For the plug-in, you don’t use it to render at all so there should be no change to bit depth
@@BrandonLiUnscripted right
It was the standalone version. Do you know if it will work in the free version of resolve? Perhaps that will render at 10bit
Is there an ios/iphone app to record gyrodata? And if so how do i sync it with the actual camera video? Like i have sony a6000 which doesn’t have gyrodata…
So canon doesn't have Giro?😢
Is this the same thing as catalyst browse?
Being able to not worry about ND filters and stabilise in post is a dream come true. The only issue is adding motion blur in post is a pain and I'm not getting great results from Davinci resolve's effects. Has anyone any experience with a third party motion blur plugin that works well?
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Hey Brandon. Where can I find the extended version of this video in Unscripted Studio? I didn't see it under "Handheld Bootcamp". Thanks!!
Editing bootcamp
can you use gyro and lens stabilisation or ibis together?
No, unfortunately not
Thanks for sharing. I have a7c and this could do wonders.
Hey Brandon,i think i have a tought question. What about when shooting at very low light with the high shutter speeds that gyroflow needs? For example city landscapes at night.wouldnt it be very dark?
The more stabilization you need, the faster shutter you’ll need to use. So you just need to shoot carefully
@@BrandonLiUnscripted thabk you very much for this.another question is how do i find the rolling shutter value for ny sony s6700 for different frame rates?
Hi buddy,
I have a problem because it does not stabilize at 50fps, but at 25fps there is no such problem (it stabilizes both with body stabilization turned off and with standard and active stabilization). Body a7sIII
very impressive! keep up good work!
Thank you so much! Helps a lot 🙏
Any link for gyroflow software?
should the stabilization be off both on the camera and lengh？
Yes
Thanks Brandon, extremely useful info.
Very useful info. One question though, if you have to use fast shutter speed, wouldn't that mean you lose motion blur and that cinematic look? or do u artificially add motion blur after this?
He uses Reel Smart Motion Blur plugin to add artificial motion blur to shots that need it (not all will)
BIG THANKS
Catalyst Browse does stabilization much better than Gyroflow but it renders out in lower quality 4k. So if you record 8k30, it will only render out in 4K with alot of compression.
Stabilization is exactly the same with either program if the lens profile is correct and internal camera stabilization is disabled while recording
@@BrandonLiUnscripted On the latest Catalyst Browse (2023) you can leave IBIS including Active on and it will still post-stabilize.
Thank you! That answers many of my questions. One more question: do I have to turn off IBIS or lens stabilarion like the OSS in order to make Gyro Flow work?
yes, all camera stabilization needs to be off, that includes IBIS, Lens OIS and Active stabilization
@@AdrianEddy Thank you very much!
so why 60 fps ?
should be to avoid shakes/blur getting recorded which will still show even after stabilizing on post
Awesome video Bro! Thank you!
Wonderful information. Thank you!
Very informative! Thanks for sharing!
deactivating internal ibis in a A7siii is essential that the process is successful or am i wrong? what about the ibis in a lens…also usefull to deactivate…i gave it a try after your last video and it really works…but beside the gyro step some shots also needed some motion blur in post…Brandon probably best teacher on the planet…and beside that a fantastic visual artist…
Yes, see my other Gyroflow video (link in pinned comment)
Is there any information about Gyroflow OFX Davinci resolve plugin on MacOS?
Yes just go to gyroflow website, link in description
hi brandon, do u turn off active stabilization in camera when u want to stabilized it in gyro?
If you stabilize with Catalyst, you can use Active. With Gyroflow you must turn it off
Thank you, big help
Is there an external device I can add to the hot shoe of my camera to get gyro data?
Waiting for this answer too
Do we have to turn off all stabilization within the camera first to get gyro data?
Yes
Do we have to turn on IBIS to be able to use gyroflow? Sorry newbie here
turn off IBIS
Thank you @@AdrianEddy
tfs Brandon!
I'm hoping you explain in this vid how to get the ofx folder to recognize it, cause I can't even open/find an ofx folder for davinci resolve.....meaning I have no way to test it. I created an ofx folder in my finder/windows files, but then can't see it in davinci
U need to copy the gyroflow ofx folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins. Then it will show up
@@Amit_Kattal That's the problem, i dont have an ofx folder, and its the paid version
@@Ben-fq1lj make one. If u don't have any ofx plugins, it's normal to not have that folder
@@Amit_Kattal and yes when i put in the plugin to the created folder....it won't appear in resolve
Gyroflow has a discord. You can ask there and get support
I tried this after your last excellent video and it just won’t work for me and I got soooo frustrated I gave up. Maybe I’ll try again now I’ve calmed down lol. I think it’s due to my 24mm GM lens not being in the list so I tried all the most similar ones like you told me to in the last video but just could NOT get it to work in DR :(( thanks though I wish it worked for me like it does for you Brandon !!
Try to stabilize the same footage in Catalyst Browse (also free). If it works in Catalyst then that means you just need a better lens profile in Gyroflow
@@BrandonLiUnscripted ok thanks Brandon, I’ll try that ! I did try Catalyst Browse awhile ago and don’t like it so much. I hope I can get Gyro working due to the integration with DR. Thanks again !!
you can also create a lens profile specifically for your lens yourself. there's a video explaining this on UA-cam.
@@DanielAx thanks Daniel, I think I know the one you mean. There is a guy in a large studio and he shows you how to do that so I’ll go check it out. Thanks !
I’ve tried and failed to make usable lens profiles. Good luck lol.
hey Brandon, again very useful tips in this video, thanx! 10:12 isn't it a workaround if you take a photo with a Zoom lens. In the exif data you have the exact focal length of the Zoom also in between min and max zoom factor. So you can tell Gyroflow in post, waht the focal length is.
You need a lens profile for your exact focal length, which you won’t have. If using a zoom lens you can either stay at the wide or tele end; or use Catalyst
@@BrandonLiUnscripted but if you take a photo and stay in this focal length this would give you the exact number via exif. Or where am i wrong???
@@subbbass yes, you can calibrate your lens profile at that exact focal length and it will work. Gyroflow also shows the exact focal length when calibrating the lens profile, even if it's something in between. At least with some Sony cameras, definitely with a7s3
@@AdrianEddy thank you. Yes, i looked up a jpeg made with my Sony A7Riii and a Sigma 24-70mm and in the exif data i found 25.4 mm focal length. so it's recording very precise. But I don't know about other cameras...
thanks gimble guru
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
BIG FAN BRO FROM PAKISAN
Can GyroFlow be used when using a lens with built-in stabilization and or Standard or Active Stabilization on Sony (FX3/A7SIII for example)? I've heard some claim that all lens and camera stabilization must be off but not sure if that's true. I'm using a Tamron 28-75 lens.
No, see my other Gyroflow video (link in pinned comment)
it has to be shut off for Gyroflow, but Active works with Catalyst Browse
Can you or someone here make a video about how to install gyroflow (m2 max mac) for davinci resolve? Tried tens of times but it just doesn’t show up in the software
there's a guide in the gyroflow documentation
@@AdrianEddycan you please send it over?
@@sumitbhandari1207 I wish but UA-cam deletes my comments, there's a link to the docs on the website
Is it still true it only works on 24p video? If so it is a no go still for me as I shoot almost 60p all the time...
Fps doesn't matter. It can work in any fps settings
Hello, we don't speak English, we will use a translator, could you make a video on how to install GyroFlow in Davinci Resolve?, thanks!!! 👍👍
For me dont work. Only with go pro
Why 60fps? Slo mo?
24p is fine with not much movement but more frame is better when theres a lot of movement
Answered in my other Gyroflow video (link in pinned comment)
I watched the other video, ua-cam.com/video/HSHOe-hpZso/v-deo.html, several times, and still can't find the answer.
I haven't seen any slowmo in any of these vids, so I don't think it's that. Also, 60fps doesn't convert to 24 (or 23.978) in any easy way, so I don't know how that would work.
@@MechaUsagi It's around 7:19 in that other video. Basically he says faster shutter speed so there's no unwanted motion blur when you stabilize it.
24fps bakes in a large amount of blur, which is absolutely terrible. The premise of electronic stabilization is that you can't have any significant motion blur in your frames. You also want as high a frame rate as possible, ideally 60fps, for the stabilization to work well.
When you're using a gimbal, motion blur is fine, because it happens in the same direction as the camera movement. But when hand holding an action shot, the electronic stabilizer is frequently moving in a different direction than the camera. This causes very unpleasant artifacts. You want as little motion blur baked in as possible.
90 degree shutter angle if you are walking very slowly, but 45 degree if you have any sort of action. You can always add motion blur later, but can't remove it. Also it's easier to convert 60fps into 30fps with a little motion blur added, but if your final target is 24fps, the technology is not there yet. It's super slow and not 100% perfect, full of artifacts, and/or jerky.
Sorry, for the most cinematic 24fps 180 degree natural blur footage you still want a gimbal. But for travel vlogs, electronic stabilization might be a good option sometimes.
gg baby!
Hi sir
This is in fact, not a video on how to use Gyro Flow. But rather suggestions around shooting and then using it.
all we need is plugin for premiere.....
Who the hell still uses Premiere, where you can use Davinci?! 🤣👏🏼
@@dvm_101 because after effects dynamic link with c4d workflow...
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You didn't answer if it works with 120 fps. And why not if it doesn't
It doesn’t because Sony cameras don’t record gyro data at higher frame rates than 60. You need IBIS and OSS off as well
No, see my other Gyroflow video (link in pinned comment)
First
Why is this called gyro? It has nothing to do with a gyro.
what do you mean? it uses the data from electronic gyroscope
@@AdrianEddy Nope. It gets info from rate sensors. A gyro is a spinning weight.
@@peterhenman2662 MEMS gyroscope is a sensor, and is also called gyroscope
Thank you, useless at all