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Australia's controversial stumping of Jonny Bairstow, a breakdown
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“But fuck off, pay attention” has been the greatest analysis of this dismissal since it occurred. Great work Jomboy.
In baseball one time, something unfortunate happened to a team on which Larry Bowa was a coach. The manager asked if there was a valid complaint to be made, and Bowa said no. You have to pay attention!
Makes me wish I'd played cricket with the man. He'd have been great!
The fact that Jomboy got a salty comment out of Piers Morgan about “why Americans should always sit out cricket chat” when they’re crying about getting hit with the uno reverse is funny to me
Piers is just doing his darn best to stay relevant.
That and the fact that Jomboy's analysis is way better than the so called 'cricket tragic' Piers Morgan.
It's ironic that a brit who makes his money commentating on American politics would say that. What a jackass
Piers needs to stay quiet. Jomboy has done his research on this. As an Aussie and a long time cricket player and enjoyer of the game he is on point here.
for Piers, staying out of other's people's business is the uno reverse
Ten minutes of Jomboy understanding cricket like a native, without teaching me a single rule.
You're not supposed to know the rules of cricket; that's the point. It's more baseball than baseball that way, and this is exactly what makes it so wonderful. You're literally going to enjoy it less once you know what's happening.
He doesn't understand it at all.
*NOT. EVEN. REMOTELY. CLOSE.*
@@CinemaDemocratica Congratulations on making the most idiotic comment on UA-cam.
@@philsurtees ^ I kindly doubt it, but whatevvs.
@@philsurtees, there is no worse gate keeper like a righteous cricket fan.
"All Bairstow had to do... was not be a big dummy"
You've nailed it mate, excellent video
If Piers Morgan says you're doing something wrong, you're probably doing something right.
Great breakdown as always!
It's good to hear piers whingeing about something else than Prince Harry and Megan Merkel 😂😂
Seeing that tweet pop up on screen, in one breath I said “no fucking way that’s so cool, Piers Morgan shut fuck up”
Ah, Piers. Just another of the loud members of the "Rules Only Apply to Other People" crew.
Hope Jomboy asked if, as an American, he was allowed to cover Arsenal bottling the league.
@@imightbebiased9311 😂😂😂😂
I just want to know what tf Morgan has to do with cricket. How this insufferable twat manages to insert himself in to everything is infuriating.
The world has truly gone mad when a yank gives the best explanation for an incident that occured in the Ashes! Brilliant video!
I think it took someone from a foreign country that doesn’t play the sport to make a balanced analysis because the beef is so deep between the two countries in question they would never come to an agreement. Fuck England btw.
Yeah he only missed/seemed to not understand batting out of the crease. The rest was spot on.
Yes, very well explained!
Apart from not understanding cricket at all it was fantastic.
As an Aussie this is an amazing breakdown. Have always loved your baseball breakdowns (you can really learn something from watching them) but this goes into some great detail and you’ve obviously done your research! Plus pissing Piers Morgan off is an added bonus!
exciting
That comparison to another event at around the 8 minute mark really clinches it. They're not mad that it happened. They're mad that it happened TO THEM. And they're unable to see the hypocrisy.
Meet the poms. That's how they operate.
Not to mention the fact that it completely escapes them that the only reason it happen to them was that they had been trying it against the Aussies for quite a while.
As an Aussie, I have seen this situation analysed hundreds of times over the past week. This is the best breakdown of it.
I was confused but now I am good.
The only thing he missed was that the English need to dry their eyes.
Agree!
Why do Australians always do this? 🤣
And yet still missing the point and getting details wrong. Marnus WAS out of his crease, watch where his feet were when Bairstow caught the ball, and where they were after he threw it.
The keeping up to the stumps deal doesn't take into account the fact that a leave is essentially a type of shot except where LBW or runs are concerned, and so a batter who hasn't completed a shot who leaves their ground in completing their shot is fair game and what the rules were there for.
Carey HAD stopped the ball, and had to stand up and change position to begin throwing so it was not remotely 1 motion, but despite that slips catches that are held for a fraction of the time Carey had that ball in his hands are deemed stopped and the ball deemed dead, so the whole, 1 motion argument has no merit.
And, the bowlers side umpire had already looked down to the hat clip to retrieve the bowlers hat, thus indicating he believed it to be over as well. And being that the bowler's side umpire is in full control of whether the ball is dead or not, that should have been where the story ended, not this whole debacle we have now......
Oh, and I'm Aussie too. I'm just more wiling to see other sides and find truth rather than try prove one side right or not. This was poor form from Carey and everyone knows it they just don't want to admit it....
Just the like the unwritten rules of baseball, the spirit of the game in Cricket is only ever brought up by the losing team.
And specifically, it can not be against England at any point. If so, the whole club bringing it against them may, in fact, be a bunch of ninnies.
And it always seems to be England....
Correct. And it is out of place at the professional level. Play to the umpire, like every other professional sport on Earth.
This is why England never win any sports, because everyone else cheats
And this isn’t even against the “spirit of the game” it’s something that all wicket keepers do.
The move by the [catcher] reminds me of the breakdown where the runner on 3rd stole home after the team noticed his extended time looking down before every pitch. This fielder saw a pattern and took advantage of it in a way that's well within the rules. It's cheeky, but it's keeping the batsman honest/on their toes.
The move by the [wicket keeper]. Great comparison also, very true.
Fucking A. We in America celebrate the greats like Ty Cobb and Jackie Robinson for plays just like this. We call it intelligence, gamesmanship, hustle… etc
@benhaney9629 "humbug, I say! There's no room for any of that hogwash in Cricket!"
-Piers Morgan, probably
with extra indignant jowl waggling, undoubtedly 😆
Similar but also not at all. Baird tow isn’t tryna get an advantage of any kind in this
Yeah exactly this. The final shot that shows he threw it before Bairstow actually left is the key to everything here. Bairstow repeatedly paying zero attention created an opportunity and the keeper took it.
My sense is that in a North American sports context the fans would be equally pissed about this BS out but they would direct their irritation at their own guy not the other team. "Why weren't you paying attention?!" Maybe that says something about the different sport cultures.
As an Australian who has watched the game for the past 25 years, I just want to say this is perfect.
As an American who knows nothing about cricket Australia is obviously in the right here…
The only part of this game that I understand/ understood was at the end when James said, "fuck off"... That's how I know he's spot on in this particular breakdown.
That's sad. Clearly 25 years isn't enough for you to have understand cricket properly. This was a disgrace.
@@benhaney9629 As an Australian who has been playing cricket for 50 years, Australia is obviously in the wrong here. I would never expect an American to understand that though - Americans cheat at anything and everything - but in cricket, as in life, just because you were within the letter of the law, that doesn't mean you were in the right. Bodyline, the underarm delivery against New Zealand, staying at the crease when you know you're out, this stumping, and plenty of other examples are all withing the rules, but they just aren't cricket, as the saying goes.
@@philsurtees agree to disagree.
"But fuck off, pay attention" Truer words have never been spoken.
Yep Jomboy nailed it.
That's a t-shirt slogan right there!
at the end of the day, this is it. Yes you can argue the aussies didn't beat bairstow with the ball. But he is out, stone cold, no arguments, by the laws of the game. And all he had to do to prevent that was wait a moment and think.
Spoken like a true Aussie Jomboy!!
It sums up the situation perfectly!!! I also think it’s an ordinary way to get a wicket.. would much rather get them bowled or caught… but fk off, pay attention.. and ffs, stop whinging
What I find hilarious is someone who's quite new to the game does the best breakdown I've seen of the incident.
Fours&sixes did a really good breakdown of it. Quite a small newish channel dedicated to cricket which I discovered because of this incident
Yeah he’s done a great job on his research to highlight the hypocrisy of their outrage
💯
"all Bairstow had to do was not be big dummy" just sums it up like no one else 😭
Love this Jomboy!!! I am a Jamaican who lives in Jamaica, as a Yankee fan and was glad to see you brought your talent to the cricket. Keep up the good work.👏
As an Aussie, Jomboy is the reason I like baseball and so I love it when he covers Cricket. Great stuff mate!
100% agree!
Same same
Good on ya!
What team do you follow in baseball?
Can we just appreciate how quickly Jomboy is learning the game of cricket?
He grew up in Australia
@@Solveitall813 didn't know that. How long and how old was he. I only see a brief mention of it on Wikipedia
Only two years, from 8-10. Lindfield, NSW! Proud North Sydney Bear
@@JomboyMedia you must have gone back to America around the time the merger with Manly was happening? We all knew that wasn't gonna work
@@JomboyMediawow that's my team. There is talks that they will be the next team included in the nrl. But as a roving team,playing games in America and England. You should get behind it
Mate, you are a legend in baseball commentary and now Im bloody impressed with your cricket breakdown of the stumping of Bairstow. Brilliant!
Cheers Mate!
“Fuck off, pay attention” is basically how I see this now. Well done mate, the 5 synced up videos is a fantastic bit of editing by you captured the whole event really well
Disclaimer, am English! Great breakdown, love the 5 shots at the end, just shows how the keeper never stops and it's one single movement so no way the ball was dead or the over over. Also great to show the batter walking out of his crease without paying any attention to where the ball is multiple times before he's out. Good to see the full story rather than just the delivery that gets him on.
I'm American and the way I understand what happened was the wicket got sticky and a player got the quidditch defended against a Quaffle?
American here. As I understand the rules, that actually was a smart play for Carey to keep the ball in motion. Bairstow simply got lazy rather than keeping his eye on the ball. The English team may fuss about it but in this case, the ruling is correct. Carey kept it live and Bairstow should've kept his head on a swivel. It's a good out.
Even before seeing all of the angles, I was asking "Why is Bairstow leaving the crease before the over is ruled complete?" That was just bad play by the batsman.
@@AdderTude Absolutely, he just got slack and paid the price
@@AdderTude yep completely true, Carey devised a clever play and all England could was whine and say it’s not in the spirit of the game, but the aussies play to win at all costs and that’s why they’re 2-1 up at the ashes, I am an Englishman btw and have no sympathy for our team
The way he was leaving his crease earlier in the over was completely normal though?
I’m English and I was annoyed when this happened, but I was only annoyed because Bairstow was so careless! The Australians were well within their rights to do what they did, and you can’t always rely on the spirit of cricket to save you when you’re not concentrating enough. Your comparisons to other incidents (especially the Bairstow / Patel wicket) are great examples too. I’ll have to show this video to my friends who still think that we were hard done by!
Piers Morgan is a douche but he's right in this instance; the two incidents are not the same.
Yes, the Bairstow/Patel incident is truely incredible, not only because the slow nature makes it significantly more against ‘the spirit of cricket’ but also because of how positive and supportive the commentary is of it. The layers of irony in this whole ‘controversy’ have been hilarious.
Love the part where Ben "Spirit of the game" Stokes, in test 3 touched the boundary rope while gathering up a ball, and just let it slide when it wasn't called a 4.
@@zeropoint546 your point is irrelevant, that was so close to when he threw the ball and his arm touched the boundary... Its the same as a batsman not walking when he gets the faintest nick and doesn't feel it. Case and point Smith in the same innings reviewing his out cause he didn't know he had touched it. Then it gets reviewed by third umpire and so he assumes if it had touched before he threw the ball they would have called it.
@@domwicketts2036 Smith doesn't have "Spirit of cricket" as his middle name.
Impressive commentary on cricket from one of my favourite yanks. As an Australian I've learned more about baseball from watching your channel breakdowns than any other source.
Everyone is saying Bairstow is not very bright, but I think he is a genius. He foresaw that he was going to be run out, so he started to walk.
Such an unappreciated comment 😂
He was technically stumped
@@guyskillen And a joke doesn't have to be technically correct, except in the minds of pedants who believe they're teaching me something.
Love it when Jomboy gets into cricket. He just comes across like such a genuine sports guy.
The last shot with the synced up angles is what convinced me that this is totally fair game - thanks for this, wish more people would watch this.
The real question is, when did the umpire call "Over"? The five angles doesn't give you that, you need the audio too. The umpire shouldn't have called over by that stage, but if he had mistakenly called it early, it would not be fair game.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 Read up on Law 23 Laws of Cricket.
Don't let anyone tell you not to comment on cricket! You bring a completely fresh perspective to the games and incidents. Love your cricket videos!
I got a taste of cricket when I was a kid, but really started following it more closely when I was traveling to India for work in the mid aughts. It's been awesome seeing you get into the sport and creating an indoor version of it. This breakdown is top notch!
Hilarious how “that’s very smart of Bairstow” changes to “it’s a disgrace to cricket” when it happens to the Poms 😂
Bunch of whingy whiny pricks man
Exactly. He was holding onto that for an eternity. That was the most bullshit decision in the history of the game imo.
The commentators I listened to said it was smart work by Carey.
Yep the Aussies like making things up to suit themselves
@@alopry11 I think you mean the english.....
I've never seen your videos before and I'm Australian. So when I first started watching I thought "no way is an American going to explain this well". But, you completely nailed my thoughts exactly! 100%! Watching the English media coverage of this has been laughable!! Seriously, just stay in your crease Johnny! And Broad's hubris!! I'm not sure I've ever disliked another English Cricketer as much as him. Great vid!!
One thing I find laughable, is I think it was the 2013 Ashes. Broad edged it, got ruled not out and stayed. The Aussies wined that it was against the spirit of the game to take advantage of the umpires like that. And the same English media commentators who defended Broad then are now whining that Carey violated the spirit of the game.
I will say tho, I think the most convincing aspect for this was in Jomboys breakdown, something I missed watching it live (where I was more on the fence), was it was a fluid motion. Carey intended to try and stump Bairstow before he even caught the ball, and I think that puts it far more in line with the spirit of the game.
Yeah, great breakdown from Johhny. Definitely a great analysis of it.
Everyone knows Australia is full of criminals, liars, and thieves…
@@Trepur349 leave it to the english to be as hypocritical as possible
spot on mate , spot on , laziness full stop
He lived in Australia for a few years, which is why he loves cricket so much, even though he's American, he got deep into it when he was over there, and has only got more and more into cricket in the years since then, especially because cricket is getting bigger in general in America (cos they've got a whole professional cricket league now, called Major League Cricket, with teams with cool arse names like the LA Knight Riders; I've always loved the thing Americans do of naming each team with a cool nickname instead of being boring like us Europeans and just calling them things like "Atlanta Football Club" instead of the badass name Atlanta Falcons, and so on. It's not the new York baseball club, it's the new York YANKEES, and so on).
Anyway yeah Jomboy has a very sophisticated understanding of the unwritten complexities of cricket, the psychological battles that are constantly going on. He understands it better than any other brit I know, even more than myself. I've gone to many county cricket matches in my life, mostly Essex county cricket club matches cos my dad lives in Chelmsford. But anyway yeah, he's not just got a deep understanding of it for an American, he's got a deep understanding of it in general. Most brits don't understand it as well as Jomboy. He's just got a complex understanding of sports in general and a lot of these insights can he easily applied to different sports. Jomboy is technically a sports journalist, so it makes sense why he knows all of this stuff.
As a cricket fan since birth and someone who’s watched your baseball videos too (residing in Canada), this is the best breakdown of the situation.
Jomboy:
Thank you for doing these cricket videos. As a life long baseball player, fan, and coach, it is an excellent experience learning about cricket...especially, about traditions and the unwritten codes.
Letter of the law; Spirit of the game...so cool.
"The Controversial Stumping of Johnny Bairstow" sounds like a novel from the 20s
Haha! Written by F. Scott Fitzgerald, where "stumping" has something to do with jazz or bootleg liquor or something.
It is the 20s....
As an American who’s recently gotten into cricket, no doubt in part to the coverage on this channel, I love to see the cricket breakdowns!
did you find cricket interesting and like it
Jomboy to do weekly reviews of upcoming Major League Cricket??
@@aperfectlycromulentusername It's only a two and a half week tournament. Wouldn't be hard.
@@nishantsharma6779I enjoy cricket. The USA team is brutally bad but I still enjoyed the One Day International World Championship qualifiers. Watched almost every game.
@@Nick-xu7ns are you native American or any relation with test playing nation people
First time I’ve see an American analyze cricket. You did a great job, would love to see you cover more of the ashes
Good for you! Actually a brilliant analysis of all sides and the hypocrisy of the more mainstream coverage. Cheers!
Ball was in play - out of crease - out - simple. Carey saw the opportunity and took it. Great awareness and execution. Completely blown up by the English and the media.
The English are Bad Sports with No Class!
The ball was dead, simple as.
@@sonnyvarioni1654a literal interpretation of the laws means that the ball is dead only when both sides think it is.
@@sonnyvarioni1654@sonnyvarioni1654 why? The ball touching the keepers gloves doesn't make it dead pr else stumpings wouldn't be a thing especially stumpings like 7:17
Denial won't change the umpires decision.
I've been watching cricket since I learnt to talk. The fact that this American dude can break it down as simple and easy as he did was cool as . As an Australian I love that more American's are getting into the game of cricket. Cool video
I'm American and the way I understand what happened was the wicket got sticky and a player got the quidditch defended against a Quaffle?
I love explaining cricket to other Americans (it's not uncommon where I'm at to see games at the municipal baseball fields). No foul territory is a mind-blower, and two bases. We used to play a game called rundown, where two people would throw the ball back and forth, and you would try and run between the bases.
I think the gentleman's code is that Australia should've warned Bairstow about leaving the crease so freely. Like Mankading. This kind of embodies the expression "well, that's just not cricket". If you claim an out on a bounced ball, and you're given the out, that's against the spirit of the game, and you might actually get suspended. Shane Warne was known for being a competitor foremost, which is somewhat considered against the spirit of the game. A few incidents of whether a batter was impeded running between the wickets.
Stumping normally are when the batter leaves his crease in taking a delivery. Batters move forward across the crease to try and get some balls. All the balls shown were bouncers, which he ducked.
*It's primarily because 100 and thousands of Indians that have arrived here in the last 20 years to take over the high end IT jobs.*
*Cricket is absolutely EVERYWHERE in USA now. Big cities like Chicago NY, LA. Dallas etc have 100s of teams.*
*You'd be surprised, currently USA is the biggest market of cricket equipment sale. It has surpassed England, Australia and India in sales. And the way the young kids are getting trained here (coaches from Australia, England and India are here by the 100s), I am sure in the next 10 years, USA will produce one heckeuva cricket team in the international arena.*
Cricket is definitely interesting, we just need more exposure. Though one form of cricket that will never catch on here is test cricket. We like games that end in a reasonable period of time. We also tend to prefer club-based leagues as opposed to national teams.
@@brandonjohnson9876 I don't know... I keep thinking people are getting kind of sick of baseball. They're way overpaid, and the international fervor might be bigger than the US at this point. The broadcasters won't ever do test cricket. We'd never to curling either, where the games are 8 hours long.
The funny thing to me is the baseball people talk about how strategic it is. It's got nothing on cricket. Two less people to cover only 25% of the field. You can't get past people.
This is a phenomenal break down of the events and a fair representation of the silliness of it all. Great video
It’s exactly like stealing home on an inattentive pitcher.
Something also worth mentioning about when McCullum (Baz) did this before was the backstory behind it, it’s actually really interesting! Basically, around a year before, the New Zealand player Grant Elliott ran into a player who was in the way of his path, thus making him fall, and running him out. In cricket, there is no rule about obstructing the runner if it’s not intentional, but most players would agree that if a player gets in the way of the batter, which results in them not being able to reach the crease, they shouldn’t appeal for the out. Collingwood was the captain of England at the time, and controversially decided to NOT retract the appeal, leaving a lot of bad blood between New Zealand and England. This was resolved in the clip of McCullum who threw the ball at the stumps after ironically Collingwood was hit. Although initially appealing, and being ruled out, New Zealand’s captain, Daniel Vettori (who’s a bowling coach for Australia now) decided to retract the appeal, ending the bad blood from the year prior.
That's a really classy play from the New Zealand captain. I would for sure be petty and get the English out.
You contradicted yourself regarding obstruction. “there is no rule about obstructing the runner if it’s not intentional.” That means there is an obstruction rule that is obviously a judgment call. Not sure what you meant.
@@Blt-rr2lm What I meant there is that there is no rule about obstructing at all. If the bowler (pitcher) and batter run into each other resulting in the batter getting run out, there is no rule to say that since the batter was obstructed, it's not out. However, since you have to appeal for the runner to be out no matter what, the team can decide to not appeal for the runner to be out, which is what Vettori did in this case. Not sure if that answers the question, but hope this helps.
Thanks to Jom Boy I am now ready to play cricket to my fullest baseball knowledge
Great breakdown! I’ve been loving the Ashes this year.. proud Australian who loves his test cricket.. this is the ASHES! This is the OLDEST AND LONGEST sporting rivalry in history! Over a hundred years! Pat Cummins is a freaking unreal Captain there’s no way anyone would have reversed their decision.. both the Aussie and English Prime Ministers talked about it a rugby team celebrated a try last night with a parody! whinging poms! Spirit of the game my bum.. as an American you are welcome to talk cricket that was fantastic hope you enjoyed working on this vid mate you really broke it down proper there maté thoroughly enjoyed it above everything else I’ve watched on the controversy brilliant thank you you’ve totally earned my subscription with this vid.. thank you Sir! ❤ from Australia 🇦🇺
That was great , thorough , detailed , researched and the independent bluntness that perhaps being American brings .
Aussie here. The thing that annoys me about this, and every time there's a Mankad, and everyone starts losing their mind, is that there's a 100% reliable, totally foolproof way for a batsman to avoid ever getting Out that way. STAY IN YOUR DAMN CREASE!
Aussies have no respect for the game. I bet you were cool with the sandpaper against the Proteas as well.
@@BenKickert oh ping off. That was cheating and they got their just punishment. This was not cheating
@@BenKickert meanwhile, 2005 ashes England openly admitted to ball tampering
@@XaviRonaldo0 I never said i was cheating. I said he aussies have no respect for the game.
@@BenKickert not cheating so what's your problem? Also, did Broad have respect for the game when he slogged it to slip and didn't walk?
Jomboy - you are a true talent in the way you talk through incidents across different sports. You are spot on with your assessment.
Jomboy! I love this! Cricket needs more American accents! Have always loved your breakdowns for baseball and now we get the ashes too! Highlight of my week! Keep up the great work buddy
Love this cricket coverage Jomboy, especially with the ashes on and as exciting and close as it is at the moment.
Another good example of this situation is MS Dhoni running out Ian Bell in 2011 - all the players incorrectly assumed the ball was dead.
Can we get a breakdown of Stokes’ subsequent innings after this stumping occurred and the absolute carnage that ensued?
As an aside, I would like to thank you for all this Cricket coverage you've been running lately. It feels like a great game I've been missing out on, and your videos have led me to ultimately discover a club here Northern Chicagoland.
played both games in Australia and the one thing i know 110% , cricket balls are harder and hurt heaps more i reckon lol
What an amazing breakdown. Great research with the old video clips, and that five-angle comparison was legit.
Another thing to remember is that here in Europe, the English are notoriously horrifically bad losers. There is always a “Maradona handball” “Simeone kick” “ronaldo wink” “Verstappen safety car” that they HYPER focus on afterwards. Ignoring that the biggest flopping cheating player in European football is England captain. That isn’t quite so heavily analysed after each game. Gives the world someone to root against tho 🤷♂️
As a cricket fan introduced to baseball *because* of this channel, this is my all-time favourite Jomboy video by a distance. Also my fav video on this whole saga period. I just hope someone clips it when they talk about it during the match :D
I apologise on behalf of England that you had to deal with Piers Morgan. I'm English and whenever I get reminded that he's still alive I feel absolute shame.
Had he done anything that you agree with? 🤔
always a good sign when Piers disagrees with you
Technically he is sort of Irish if you wanna disown him but let's not cause a diplomatic incident 🤣
Yes and no. I respected him for facing up to the consequences of his words when he faced Brett Lee in the nets. He showed a lot of courage.
Don't be upset about it, there's people from every country that their fellow citizens aren't proud of.
Aussie here: whole controversy is a joke. This stuff happens every time in the ashes, if anybody is seriously upset then theyre an idiot
I am guessing you are cool with an mankad as well.... and also sandpaper?
@@BenKickert Mankad is legal dismissal so Mankad every day. Sandpaper is not the damn same and thats illegal.
@@BenKickert The sandpaper debacle led to the biggest bans Australia has ever given out but whatever
@@BenKickert are you cool with the non striker getting a Headstart on the running?
@@XaviRonaldo0 No I am not. Which is why a classy player will warn the non-striker or faint a mankad. If the runner keeps doing it (which they never do), then a mankad would be justified and well within the spirit of the game.
Love how Jomboy has a pretty good understanding of cricket. Been following his baseball stuff for a few years, thanks for dabbling in the cricket Jomboy.
Keep the great content coming...
Good job breaking it down mate.
It's fired up the poms...setting up an awesome 4th test.
This might be my favorite breakdown of all time. I knew this was coming, and it surpassed expectations. What an amazing month of cricket this is becoming.
Understand this Jomboy: NOBODY [sane] thinks there was anything wrong with this, it's a manufactured controversy, this is a normal thing that happens in any age band of cricket. The English team leaders have just cooked this crap up to motivate themselves and the tories in their crowds lol
You should make a video of all the "worst things" Broad has done lol
You can’t say nobody when I disagree. Umpire wasn’t even paying attention, shoulda been the end of the over.
Nah, I think the point is more the aussies were going to likely win the ashes anyway so it was all a bit of an unnecessary thing for them to do, they have given the English a gift here in PR terms
@@esard2011 nope
it's funny when I tuned into the game, the English broadcasters were mocking the situation and when Root or the other guys followed the procedure (look back at the keeper, wait for the ball to be dead, raise your hand before leaving the crease... you know the stuff you learn as a kid) and saying, that's how it's done. I was surprised, because English fans were crying all week long
I love this so much. An American telling the English the rules of cricket, and he's 100% correct. Brilliant!
Hey man I love that you’re so into these cricket plays. The subtitles on what broad was saying was great. Keep up the good work.
This is the type of dismissal that you would be laughed off for. I've been out very similarly while playing as a kid in India. I'm sure the sentiment is similar in Australia. Cricket demands absolute concentration and the refusal to give a single opportunity.
Exactly. I got out like this, precisely once. In primary school, 35 years ago, still haunts me. Never made the same mistake again.
yeah, under 11's are taught "STAY IN YOUR CREASE", but its too much to ask that from a professional with experience like bairstow
and that's why both Aus and India dominate cricket now. For all the crying from the Pom's the reality is they just don't try hard enough. They excuse their lazy attitude with the "spirit of the game" all Bairstow had to do was have the attitude expected of a professional cricketer anywhere else in the world.
It's a Test right? It measures not just the physical but the mental.
@@louiscypher4186and what's even funnier is when it's the poms that do it then it's "excellent wicketkeeping" from them and "lousy cricket"from the opponent. Lol 😂
An acid test you can apply is what would happen if the throw missed the stumps and there was an opportunity for runs/overthrows. In all cases shown the batsman would attempt to run.
Yeah baffles me, If Bairstow had even glanced back at the keeper then I would have the complete opinion it wasn’t right. The fact he didn’t even check to see where the ball was… says it all.
Great video. Only suggestion for us North American viewers would have been to explain the rule being debated from the beginning of the video. I'm still not quiet sure what the actual rule is and when he is allowed to walk away from his batting area. Thanks again for all the great cricket breakdowns.
The rule in question is, is the ball in play or a "dead ball" (not in play/the sort of dead space between balls). Put simply the rule says - the ball is dead the moment everyone stops playing, so in this case the batsman had stoped playing, but the wicketkeeper (catcher) kept playing - meaning the ball was not dead, and bairstow was out.
Cricket has a sort of appendix to the rules which is "the spirit of cricket" (some of witch is written down, and some of which is a kinda vague idea of how to behave) which is a sort of conduct code to discourage bad sportsmanship in the game -because of this there are a few ways that you can get a batter out that are quite unusual - basically anything that is a bit clever/cheeky is frowned upon.
So with this debate it is definitely out according to the rules, but people are arguing weather it was bad sportsmanship or not.
@@azazaz999990question then… if the English think this is bad sportsmanship..why is what he did when the one dudes foot was barely off the ground not bad sportsmanship? It seems like he got a win off something clever and now he got a loss off someone else being clever and he and his whole country are being pissy about it even though when he did something similar he was celebrated? Seems kinda whiny to me.
My favorite bit…the wicketkeeper that was so smart and the English commentators praised for his great work is Jonny Bairstow…the one and the same English batsman run out by Carey!
The funny thing is that when this happens at any level of the game, and the keeper misses the stumps, you often see the batsmen scampering through for a free overthrow run. They know damn well when the ball is dead or alive!
Right, there was no reason to think the ball was still live here.
@@jonescrusher1 Aside from Carey keeping it alive, sure
@@jonescrusher1 Another delusional pom. There's no reason to assume the ball is dead there, only Bairstow the numbnut did so.
Good point
@@THICCTHICCTHICC And how is it usually ascertained that a ball is dead or alive?
Just through the little I've learned about cricket from Jomboy videos, it seems really bizarre to me that you put yourself in a position to be easily "out" when the ball is still live.
It's like getting upset if your baserunner stepped off of the base because they weren't paying attention and then they easily got tagged out or a catcher picking off a runner at first.
Cricket is more relaxed about the ball "going dead" because there are no baserunners, stolen bases, tag-ups or double plays. After each delivery you'll see the batters talking to each other and walking up and down. Obviously Bairstow was a little *too* relaxed...
Bairstow is known as a bit of a doofus and often does things that make people shake their head.
He's also a terrible keeper who dropped multiple catches yesterday on the first day of the third test. One in particular was an inexcusable drop at the level.
The exact same scenario as you mention happened in the Australia v Japan WBC game earlier this year..runner made second but momentarity changed feet on the base and was tagged out...
The idea of a "trick play" like in baseball with a hidden ball or a fake throw to get someone when they step off the bag is really "not cricket". The idea is that you beat the bat with the ball, youre supposed to beat the batsmans skill with skill and so taking a wicket in a "low skill" way where very clearly bairstow was not beaten by the ball is sometimes considered against the "spirit" of the game.
If bairstow had have been out of his crease to gain an advantage, i.e. better position to play the ball, or his momentum took him out of the crease. If him leaving the crease was "part of the shot" then there is no question hes been beaten. In this case he clearly wasn't. At the same time you are correct, he needs to have the presence of mind to wait for the ump to call over, or ask the ump to leave his crease to inspect the pitch.
It's a tough one really. I think that aus are both right to have taken this wicket, and also that its an unfortunate way to go on to win a match
@@PeekayIP Known as a but if a doofus? What are you talking about?
I was on the fence with where I stand with this stumping but now I am all team Carrey 🎉😂
Typical English media. England can do it and its fine but when others do it its against the 'Spirit of the Game'.
English media is the worst on god
As an Aussie: terrific breakdown, covering all the angles, in particular showing the moment the ball leaves the keeper’s gloves (saw that no where else, but it was a thought that crossed my mind). Very competitive sport, with lots of mind games - showed Bairstow had a brain fade at that moment, and one day he will acknowledge it. Too proud for this moment, but it will come. 😂
I don't think it was a brain fade... questionable technique not looking at the ball, and an assumption that wiping your foot in the crease is enough for everyone else to consider the ball dead. If it was a one off, it's a brain fade... he was doing that over and over.
@@har234908234 He foolishly trusted the Aussies not to be complete and utter dicks. It was nothing like his attempted stumping of Labuschagne and I do not believe for a second that Carey thinks it was. Labuschagne had stepped out of his crease to play the ball and Bairstow was hoping he would lift his trailing foot. Bairstow was well in his crease, in control of his feet and from any practical point of view the play was over.
@@nerdyali4154 Did you even watch the video? There is no "they were dicks about it" that's bullshit, Bairstow's dismissal of Patel was far more egregious in this regard and no one went off at him about it. The simple fact is that if play is over as soon as the ball passes the batsmen then stumping a player out would not be a thing. Bairstow was stupid and presented his wicket to the Aussies on a platter, end of really. They are professionals and in any sport you play to the umpire's call not just "whenever I feel like it."
@@nerdyali4154 wahhhhhhh.
@@nerdyali4154 go read the Laws of Cricket to learn why you are wrong.
I remember in my junior cricket days having my dad, who was both the coach and umpire of our team, telling our wicket keeper to "throw down the stumps" (attempt a run out like Carey did) during an over change. He had seen a batter doing similar to what Bairstow was doing and wanted a cheap wicket. Needless to say the kid left a ball and strolled out of his crease with out a care of what was happening behind him. Our keeper took the ball, hesitated half a second before realising what he had be told to do, cocked his arm and threw the ball at the stumps. Being a 12 year old who didn't have a lot of practice with throwing with gloves he missed by a good 2m. After that the batter never left his crease against us. My dad is English and would have cried foul if it had happened to us but he sure didn't have any issue exploiting 'the spirit of the game' when it gave his team an advantage.
How come an American can understand the incident and yet the Poms can't?
I think you're right about lots of Aussies saying "eh it's not great" but the other point you neglected to mention, is that we find it f***ING hilarious. There is no greater joy than listening to poms whinge as we beat them and this has just been fantastic.
Aussie Here. This was a contentious issue cause England do sort have a case that getting someone out that way is a "little bit" of a dog act HOWEVER, it's fundamental and basically school boy level Cricket to stay in your crease. It's SO basic and fundamental that many players forget and are happy to just wander out of their crease between balls. The hilarious fallout from this was all the backlog of videos released showing the hypocrisy of the English players and Coach who said "they'd never do this kind of thing" Anyway its been a fun week and the 3rd Test is setting up as a cracker so far.
Yeah. Ben Stokes is a legend and that hasn't changed, but the interview after this made him sound like a sore loser. Other than that it's been a great series to watch!
This probably wouldn't have been as controversial if there hadn't been all the BS about the Mitchell Starc catch-non-catch the previous day. It then means tempers were fit to flare up. And of course Stuart Broad coming out and being very theatrical when he was already fired up didn't exactly help cooler heads prevail.
Although tbh I think England got closer to winning that game than they would have done had Bairstow still been there, because the way that Stokes fired up after that dismissal completely changed the way he was batting and I don't think England would have played that way while Bairstow and Stokes were still there, but I also don't think England were good enough to win the game regardless.
The gaining an advantage part was actually in reference to Warner batting up to a meter out of his crease when the ball was bowled. He was doing this to reduce the distance the ball would have to swing and disturb the length of the bowler. It wasn't about gaining distance on a potential run.
Also, any advantage there is balanced by the fact he has even less time to react to the ball movement, line or length. If you're facing a quick, you don't have much time anyway, less than a second I believe.
It's not gaining advantage to stand out of your crease when batting, it's changing your technique to deal with the conditions presented. Same as taking a different guard, switch hitting or batting deeper in the crease.
@@sentimentalbloke185 He didn't do it to not gain an advantage. Cheers for the year later reply though!
@@andrewmclean834 there's no advantage to be gained or everyone would do it & gain an advantage. It's the same as changing your guard or your stance or your backswing, adjusting for the conditions.
An American dissects this "controversy" better than those know-it-all pundits, including Piers Morgan, who speaks out of his ass on most topics. Thank you for the analysis. Australia wasn't in the wrong.
GOOD ON YOU JOMBOY for calling these whinging poms out, great video mate.
The one thing I have not heard is Baistow taking any accountability for his mistake. I am a keeper as well and gamesmanship is a skill all keepers learn. Also as a batsman, you need to be aware of what the ball is doing at all times
What's even crazier is that in the clip of England's coach McCullum running him out in 4:19, his captain Vettori is actually Australia's assistant coach right now. So there is drama between the two kiwis as well.
I bet McCullum didn't want him to withdraw the appeal too
@@XaviRonaldo0 McCullum is one of the most ruthless players ever so yeah
@@THICCTHICCTHICC peanut brained yeah
That incident was in response to the earlier Grant Elliott / Ryan Sidebottom incident. Kiwis were proving a point. They all knew the appeal would be withdrawn.
But it’s ok now for Callum, he made a speech to the MCC expressing remorse for stumping Murali, when he was celebrating a century.. if he could take it back he would have.. so that now gives him the right to criticise Cummins 😂
every kid in australia has played some version of cricket. and the one rule we all knew was guard your crease.didn’t matter if you were 7 or 70.
I learnt all I know about baseball by watching this channel, now I'm trying to learn more about cricket. Great breakdown as always
I don't watch baseball, but I watch your videos because I like your observation and commentary on any given baseball highlight. I was delighted to see you get into cricket a while back and have enjoyed you bridging the two worlds of baseball and cricket, I applaud you and your expanding horizons. This video has been the cherry on top: your commentary is fair, your research has been solid, your examples are *chefs kiss* and the crowning glory is you getting a rise from that cuck and hack mouth-piece Piers Morgan.
Consider me subscribed for life.
I was just wondering where the next Jomboy video was. Here it is! Timed it perfectly and got here first. Love these videos!!!
Making me like cricket with every new video like this you put out. You're the face of American sports commentary JB!
Not a dead ball, wicket keeper was in his rights, and batsman was not thinking.
Aussie here. I’m now a diehard baseball fan because of JomBoy and could not appreciate more how much class he put into this breakdown. JomBoy the legend!!!!
Now here’s some classics to review for cricket in the years: Shane Warne ball of the century, Merv Hughes stretching with the MCG crowd, David Boon catching Warnes hatrick.
And a certain underarm ball?
I can’t believe jomboy has international appeal. If u want to go into a hobbit rabbit whole, look how he blew the whistle on a entire baseball team cheating for an entire yr who , look up “jomboy astros cheating scandal”. Totally fascinating
Glad JOMBOY dropped this after a 14-1 loss by the Yankees to the Orioles. Just what I needed.
Dude piss off 😅
Orioles have a bloody good young team
As an Aussie cricket and baseball fan (Yankee fan too) I wholeheartedly agree.
Same, but as an O's fan it's just nice to have two great things come back-to-back :D
I don’t see the issue with this play. The batsman knows the play isnt dead it’s his fault for walking away. If England also did this earlier in the game why are they complaining? Lmao great coverage Jomboy
I think the point is that he does think it's dead. He has probably assumed the wicket keeper has just thrown the ball to a fielder or just held on to it. However what he thinks isn't important.
Great analysis of this incident. Piers Morgan had nowhere to go other than pick on the fact that you are American, which IMO makes this commentary even more brilliant.
6:22 Here's a thing the dude in the interview talks about, both Labuschange and Warner were standing out of their crease, but this is an extremely common thing to do for overseas batters in England. Because the cricket ball swings, seams basically hoops around a lot- to negate that, batters stand outside of their crease. Obviously they do all of this taking into account the disadvantages of doing so, being stumped like Johnny, the ball feels faster because you have less time to react and you might not have a good sense of where your stumps are.
Man, this is a very well made video. The fact that Bairstow repeatedly left the crease in the previous overs and he himself decided that the overs were complete is a fair game for Carey to stump him out.
I think that's exactly what happened, the Aussies took note of his wandering off, and waited for the right moment and pounced - I love how the five angle shot proves they played the ball right back at the stumps knowing there was a fair chance they'd snag him out.
@@Meriphistimo Yes but some would say Carey should've given him a warning atleast, but then again this is an international game.
@@Preetvnda warning? You’re warned at the under 10’s level. This is not a mankad, you don’t need to warn a batsman that he’s about to be stumped.
@@MrPoogmanWhat's the problem with mankad. It's atleast better than this. There the non striker is ready to steal a run when the bowler is not even delivered the ball. Assume a non striker stealing that run in 2019 World Cup final or 1999 Aus vs SA semi final..That stolen run would be enough to win the World Cup. Mankad is more fair play than this one because you know the non striker is being over smart and clearly taking an advantage to steal a run. End of debate. Allan Donald was run out in 1999 semifinal because he didn't run. If he was running even before the ball was delivered then SA would have won the game easily.Thats 100% sure
@@MrPoogman bruh that's my point too, it's an international game so don't need a warning.
That's pure presence of mind and game awareness from the keeper. This is a quality that every sportsperson should possess. Rule is rule. So don't misuse the words "spirit of game".
The best thing about this is how all the Poms try to justify it and not actually calling it for what it is. So called English stupidity.
And when the shoes is in the other foot and they do the same things it’s What a smart piece of cricket” gosh got to love the British entitlement
Funny thing about Stuart Broad chirping is he's best known for being standing his ground when he hit a ball to slip and the umpire made a mistake and didn't notice. Everyone and their dog knew it was out except the officiating umpire, and Australia was out of their reviews. It was also hilarious listening to the English commentators admit it was the correct decision, but have to back off with their responses based on their bosses wanting controversy out of this.
Thanks Jomboy for covering this breakdown. Just know that if you've got Piers Morgan ruffled, you're doing the right thing!
Broad at this point plays the role of a Court jester. It's all a bit of a show
Was the review system in back then?
@@deadkodo Yes, but it was brand new and teams were unaccustomed to using it, so Australia had blown their two reviews at that stage.
@@JPH1138 Oh ok. Just seems that long ago I didn't think it had started then. I just remember watching it live then going downstairs to complain about it with family.
@@deadkodo It was also a weird period where it was used inconsistently, because I don't think all the stadiums had the equipment and India refused to use it for a few years.
My thing is that if Alex Carey missed catching the ball and it went to the boundry, England would have happily pocketed the free 4 runs. Bairstow wasn't watching, that's his own fault for being complacent. I would also argue that the umpires may have been too complacent too which may have lead to Bairstow doing what he was did.
Exactly that is the reason it's always crucial for the ball to be called dead only after the keeper made his move.
There is implicit and explicit calling of 'over' - explicit, is the actually calling out 'over', implicit is the body language of everyone concerned, the umpires looking/ walking away, Johnny marking his crease and walking up to garden and chat, obviously not trying to gain an advantage...unlike the Mankad, in which the non striking batsman is trying to gain an advantage by backing up, but even here to take a wicket with a Mankad is considered against the spirit of the game, at least without warning the batsman first beforehand. It's like the time the batsman was given out for handling the ball, when having played the delivery and trapped the ball near his feat he picked the ball up and threw it to the nearest fielder, to save time. Technically 'out' for handling the ball, but was the ball dead at the time it was picked up? In any case, to answer your question, if the wicket keeper doesn't catch the ball cleanly and it keeps moving then it is obviously still a live ball, and 4 byes will be added if it reaches the boundary. The only argument would be as to whether the batsman had actually played shot, as if not then the ball would be considered dead and the byes would not then be added.
@@forestgump99That's a too biased subjective explanation. The Sambit Patel wicket in this video suggests that he didn't take any advantage either. How Bairstow and English commentary hailed it. The only difference here is Carrey was at a distance. But atleast he instantly thrown the ball unlike Bairstow. Bairstow scratching wickets can't be considered as the " ball dead". Umpires need to call over. My point is what if Carrey didn't catch the ball. It will roll to boundary and England will get 4 runs. Bairstow scratching his crease didn't make the ball dead in that scenario and umpires will Signal 4. Bairstow was living in a parallel world that time. That's why the look on his face like " oh my god I am screwed" when the ball hits the stumps . Because he himself tried the same before and knew he was out. 😅
@@forestgump99Why Bairstow was silent all along. Because he knows he is not a saint and stumped other batters like that . 😂
With the Patel stumping, the batsman's weight was still forward, he hadn't technically completed the stroke because of this, so the stumping was fair. If the batsman's weight had returned backwards such that he was standing in a balanced manner then the argument would be different.
Excellent analysis. I'm an England fan who initially thought it was a bit dubious, but after seeing Bairstow try exactly the same thing in the same match, plus other stuff he and Baz have done, he definitely got a taste of his own medicine. By the way, being American doesn't mean you can't understand cricket, as you've ably demonstrated
As an Aussie and a huge cricket fan, I really like this video, well done
Please continue being part of the cricket chat (I know you will 😊) Absolutely love these breakdown even if I'm just a silly Quebecer from the wrong side of the ocean...
This is the reality; if the sides were swapped, England would be celebrating.
This was 100% Out and there's nothing against the spirit of the game.
As an Aussie this made me chuckle quite a bit, the carry on from the English was the funniest “toys out of the cot” moment I can recall. Stuart Broad is in no position to ever take the moral high ground either. 2013 test at Trent Bridge… he’s got a short memory
English motto on sportsmanship- “do as we say, not as we do”