DOES IT MATTER?...Driver Shaft Length Test

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2021
  • 300 yard drive with a LONGER SHAFT! Will it work?
    In this golf lesson Matt Fryer Tries out 3 different lengths of driver shafts to see if actually switching to a longer shaft, like many of the pro's are doing like Bryson DeChambeau, will actually help you hit it longer and make you abetter driver of the golf ball? Or would the average golfer better sticking with a standard driver length shaft? Or even one that is slightly shorter?
    Testing all 3 using Foresight GC2 Matt Fryer Golf will see how he favours and give you an opinion on what will be best suited to your golf game.
    ► Official Apparel and footwear partner: Mizuno
    mizunogolf.com/uk/apparel/
    ►Official Precision Pro Ambassador:
    www.precisionprogolf.com/
    ► Launch Monitor: foresightsports.eu/launch-mon...
    ► Hit #Subscribe & #HitTheBell so you don't miss out on any new videos!
    TO BOOK A LESSON WITH MATT FRYER AT TRAFFORD GOLF CENTRE
    CALL THE BOOKING LINE - 0161 749 700
    MORE INFO - traffordgolfcentre.co.uk/lesso...
    Become a FREE SUBSCRIBER to MATT FRYER GOLF now
    / mattfryergolf
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Hi I’m Matt Fryer, welcome to my channel MattFryerGolf. This UA-cam channel is to help you play better golf and love the game even more!
    I specialise in golf lessons, golf club news and other entertaining golf content.
    I you want to play better golf I cover all topics in my golf lessons such as, how to fix your slice, fix your hook, help you drive the golf ball longer, hit your irons consistently , master your shortgame and hole more putts.
    I will also help you lower your score by giving you plans and tips on managing your game out on the golf course, with course vlogs and golf course scenarios, so you know exactly what to do you find yourself in a tricky situation.
    On this channel I also make fun and entertaining golf content from golfing trips I go on, showcasing some of the best golf courses and resorts in the world and giving you advice on where to visit and which golf courses to play.
    If you enjoy the channel make sure you hit subscribe and also tap the notification bell so that you are always notified when I release a new video.
    Enjoy your golf!!
    #golf #subscribe #mattfryergolf
  • Спорт

КОМЕНТАРІ • 211

  • @chrischapin2936
    @chrischapin2936 2 роки тому +62

    I am wondering if you adjusted the Swingweight of each option to be close to the same? I think 1” varies the Swingweight by 6 points which could have a significant effect on your swing if you are sensitive to that factor. Additionally the shorter the shaft the flatter the lie angle which might also effect your ability to find the middle of the club…would be good to repeat this test with those factors adjusted to close to the same to make it a good comparison….

    • @saulgoodeguitars
      @saulgoodeguitars 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah you gotta do the swing weight for sure, I added weight to my head because I got .75 of an inch cut off

    • @jamescameron314
      @jamescameron314 4 місяці тому +4

      100% true! It's no wonder he hit the shortest shaft well left because it would be too light.

    • @MarkSmithhhh
      @MarkSmithhhh 2 місяці тому

      ​@@saulgoodeguitars I'm thinking of cutting mine, how did you add weight? Just lead tape? And where did you put it?

  • @jerryneff6018
    @jerryneff6018 2 роки тому +2

    45.5 X Hazard Smoke is working great for me this high index 71 yr ole 5'6" with 70's mph swing speed tops. A smooth swing puts the ball right down the middle. A harder swing adds a slight fade if needed. My tee height and swing angle higher forward shoulder add elevation when needed.

  • @sparkdog44
    @sparkdog44 Рік тому +2

    I went 46" on my own. Same results as you. Very straight and a good distance gain.

  • @tyler8168
    @tyler8168 2 роки тому +37

    For this to be an objective test, you’d need to match swing weights and even adjust lofts since lie angle/launch conditions etc will be different.
    You’d really need to be fitted for all 3 lengths to really be testing shaft length alone.

  • @timspender5275
    @timspender5275 2 роки тому +1

    I have had a shorter shaft in the past. What was fundamental to accuracy was being used to using it. When I changed back to standard length I achieved the same accuracy after a short time. The success of the longer shaft was about familiarity.

  • @alansimpson2371
    @alansimpson2371 2 роки тому +4

    I bought a Sim last year with a 47” shaft. But I’m 5’5” and had issues squaring it up with consistency. I got it chopped to 45.75” and it’s been great since. I think with taller players it’s probably a little easier to hit, provided they have a good handicap.

  • @michaelrooney2216
    @michaelrooney2216 Рік тому +1

    I’ve played a 52 49 I’m playing a 48 now and I love it I couldn’t go back to a 45 at all the length isn’t much but for me it’s control I think a lot has 2 do with your height as well, but I was competing in long drive so I’m use 2 a longer shaft

  • @jordanmiller7744
    @jordanmiller7744 2 роки тому +2

    I’m a 13 HC with swing speed around 90mph. The longer shaft works for me. I’m consistently 10 to 15 yards longer and I hit more fairways. If I had a 100mph + swing speed it might be different. I switched all my irons to a 1/4” longer graphite shaft and I’m hitting all my irons longer and more consistent as well. If you’re a senior golfer with low club head speed, it’s worth a try.

  • @michaellischio7617
    @michaellischio7617 2 роки тому +1

    35 handicap. I bought a titleist 913d2 with a 44.5 In shaft and switched to 43”. Didn’t dramatically increase my fairways hit but most of my miss hits were slices and now they are mostly pulls and pushes and I’m losing a lot fewer balls off the tee. Distance is on average similar but my long hits went from 230 max to low 220’s.

  • @nickrogers6441
    @nickrogers6441 2 роки тому +1

    I recently bought a 43.5” shaft for my driver on line by mistake, I hit my standard 3 wood further on good strikes.

  • @sambird6014
    @sambird6014 2 роки тому

    I’ve only put a driver back in the bag recently having spent the last 3 years playing irons only.
    I play a 45.5” 9 degree and I’m striking it quite well but I haven’t tried any other length options. Am tempted to now. If you want a mid handicap person to test, just shout!

  • @tref51
    @tref51 2 роки тому +1

    Change my 44.5 shaft in a G425 to 45.75, recently. I finding more fairways and have lost the pull and duck hook. Hitting longer but one always does in warm/hot weather. Happy with results.

    • @MarkSmithhhh
      @MarkSmithhhh 2 місяці тому

      You'll definitely probably be more likely to not come over thentop with a longer shaft, i had the same issue with a pull from coming in steep, but when I made it longer it vanished...I think the longer it gets the closer it gets to a baseball swing and just makes more sense in my mind...plus I'm short so I cam really swing it on a much flatter plane

  • @bradfordcotta5925
    @bradfordcotta5925 2 роки тому +10

    I actually carry both. I have the TM 300 mini-driver at 43.5 inches (but, before that, I had a 43.5 inch driver) and a 47 inch Epic Flash. The mini-driver is an absolute fairway finder (as was my 43.5 inch driver) and the Epic Flash, while a bit more erratic, is 20 yards longer. So, on long par 4's or reachable par 5's, I go with the Epic and I use the mini-driver or short-shafted driver for all other shots. I suck with a 3-wood anyway, so replacing it with a mini-driver or "thriver" was a no-brainer - I have been doing this for 10+ years.

  • @johndquintano6984
    @johndquintano6984 2 роки тому +1

    Always wondered what would Happen with a longer shaft. Good stuff

  • @nigelday001
    @nigelday001 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting Matt , I think you should continue in researching this . Surly the lie angle would be more upright in the shorter shaft , would this not affect direction? Maybe some average 90 mph players with 10 shots on each length would give better dispersion stats .

  • @abhiwaj
    @abhiwaj 2 роки тому +1

    Great experiment!!!
    Are the 43" and 45" shafts tip trimmed more than 47" shaft?
    If so, that's the reason why you get low launch on 43" shaft. Shorter length also makes the club stiffer.
    Thanks.

  • @91scalloped
    @91scalloped 2 роки тому +2

    Answer without even watching the video, yes!!! I’m 6’5 almost 6’6 and I lengthened my titleist t3 almost 2” with a xx-stiff flex and I will outdrive my sim, callaway epic gbb, or titleist tsi3 in their standard lengths. I carry easily on average a distance of 28 yards further by doing so without sacrificing accuracy.

  • @brandonaldridge6577
    @brandonaldridge6577 2 роки тому +4

    Changing the shaft length changes the swing weight of the club. Longer shaft typically needs lighter head, shorter shaft typically needs heavier. Plus the lofts should be adjusted as well. I play a 44 inch driver and it works well for me but it took quite a bit of tweaking to figure it out.

    • @LeoGjok
      @LeoGjok 3 місяці тому

      im looking to shorten my shaft to 44 inches. I have a G400 max with a regular 55g shaft. could you give some advice on this?

  • @emilpettersson5866
    @emilpettersson5866 2 роки тому

    Havent done anything with my driver, byt I do play one length in my irons and I love them

  • @noonster55
    @noonster55 Рік тому

    I just tried a very similar test. A 43", a 44", and a 46" shaft. I did way better with the 44" one. My smash factor was so much higher with the middle one. Maybe because I have always used a 44" to 44.5" driver shaft since I started golfing 22 years ago. I also just did another test with 4 different shaft flexes, senior flex to extra stiff. My club head speed with the driver is around 100-102 mph. I found out I prefer the senior flex shaft the most. I felt I had more feel for what the club head was doing. So I had more confidence with that shaft. I hit more fairways with the senior flex shaft. The total distances were within 4 yards. A little less with the 43 " shaft. Also with the 43" shafted driver my club head speed was down 2-3 mph. With the 46" shaft club head speed was 2-3 mph higher, but smash factor was way lower.

  • @GolfingMalky
    @GolfingMalky 2 роки тому +1

    Nice vlog Matt; pretty sure I could never control a longer shafted driver.
    I'll see what my local pro says when I go to get fitted.
    Cheers

  • @kenkohl2181
    @kenkohl2181 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting test, thanks, particularly in that you seemed to have a draw/pull bias with short/mid length shafts. My takeaway is that with some practice, a person can rope the long shaft down the fairway consistently. As an aside, Jon Sherman at Practical Golf has gone to long shaft and has picked up distance with no loss in accuracy. Maybe you guys are on to something 😉

  • @colinwallace2085
    @colinwallace2085 2 роки тому

    Matt, I had a fitting for Mizuno irons today and even though the swing analyser said standard loft and lie, Jacko thought a half inch short was better and I was striping it. I have an under 100 mph swing speed off 21 and would love to make myself available as a guinea pig for you.🥰🥰

  • @mrmacc1312
    @mrmacc1312 2 роки тому +1

    I took a lesson and owned two different drivers and the coach told me to use the shorter one. After this video I may try going back and testing the longer one and see the difference!! Thanks love your series

  • @oliverizzard8751
    @oliverizzard8751 2 роки тому +6

    I put my G400 driver head in my g400 3w shaft and I've never hit it better. My potential longest is probably a few yards short but my average definitely longer due to +confidence in swing + more roll because hitting fairway with better trajectory.

    • @Firecondor8
      @Firecondor8 Рік тому

      Did you add any lead tape to the driver head ?

    • @oliverizzard8751
      @oliverizzard8751 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Firecondor8 did not

  • @edro3838
    @edro3838 2 роки тому +3

    As mentioned you probably have swing weight fluctuations especially at 2” increments. However, IMO shaft lengths at .5” to 1.0” either way from standard should be sufficient.

  • @joebradley7317
    @joebradley7317 2 роки тому +4

    I have been a slicer of the golf ball all my life until I switched to a 48 inch driver about two years ago and now i am pretty much in the fairway with all my drives. I didn't notice any distance gained with the longer club except being in the middle is a hell of a lot better than being in the woods so there's that. Now I can even hit a draw shot where before I didn't know what a draw was. Now if I could only hit my irons !!!

  • @DrVegiAlex
    @DrVegiAlex 2 роки тому

    Commenting before I watch. See if your results are similar to mine.
    Recently shortened my Mavrick Sub Zero to 44.5" down from the original 45.75" I also added 16g of head weight to keep the swing weight correct. I hit noticeably more fairways now and actually gained a few yards (top tracer data) as I am more confident and comfortable swinging it at this length.

    • @DrVegiAlex
      @DrVegiAlex 2 роки тому

      That was an extremely interesting watch. I found similar to you that the shorter shaft launched lower but with a little loft adjustment that was sorted. You can't argue with the facts, clearly the longer shaft is the best option for you.
      But I have to ask, we're you altering the head weight to suit the shorter shafts and keep the swing weight correct?

  • @neilt4723
    @neilt4723 Рік тому +1

    Matt, I’m considering this at the moment but where it’s different compared to you is that I’m 5ft 5ins. What you said in the video is an average golfer might find that a shorter shaft might help them find the middle but if you’re an average golfer and only 5ft 5ins …… surely I should be using a shorter driver shaft if I’ve been fitted and got shorter irons 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @mikewalker7366
    @mikewalker7366 Місяць тому

    Very interesting and I think further demonstrating the importance of being professionally fitted when buying a driver.

  • @coachjsu
    @coachjsu Рік тому +1

    I got my latest club shorter / stiffer because everyone was saying that's best... but I've been pulling them left just like you did in this video. I'm going to try a longer shaft next.

    • @libertyfighter1
      @libertyfighter1 Місяць тому

      same here i try shorter and stiff pull it left a lot NO GOOD going back

    • @coachjsu
      @coachjsu Місяць тому

      @@libertyfighter1 i went back; and stayed to my old clubs. best thing I've done

  • @jeffreygrantsmith
    @jeffreygrantsmith 2 роки тому +2

    I've used a 44 inch driver for many years. I believe I hit more fairways over time because of it. YMMV

  • @jeffjones5591
    @jeffjones5591 11 місяців тому

    Ha! I play the same shaft and head, you feature in this video. this video was made for me I guess. thanks for the post mate. I am considering shortening the length or looking at a mini-driver.

  • @cjdiaz24
    @cjdiaz24 Рік тому

    About 5 years ago, I took my driver out of the bag because I could not find a fairway. I would tee off with my 3 wood. Then one day, I decided to flip out my 3 wood shaft and try it on the driver. I am over 70% on fairways now. The shorter shaft made me a lot more accurate. My swing has improved over the years and I have gotten my distance up over 40 yards since I made the switch.

  • @williamjones1143
    @williamjones1143 2 роки тому

    Super interesting. Think it proves that what works for one may not work for the next.

  • @charlesharrison6291
    @charlesharrison6291 2 роки тому +2

    On my driver I have shortened the shaft and find if far more accurate. Great video covering an interesting subject.

    • @billryan8707
      @billryan8707 Рік тому

      Shorter is not the the to go. It’s just shorter drives make it 46 + and guarantee longer drives. It works Period.

  • @TheSoljaTv
    @TheSoljaTv 10 місяців тому

    Cut my driver down to 44 inches, gained a ton of control. I’m 6ft, standing closer to the ball helps a lot. I actually gained distance now that the ball doesn’t hook nearly as much. What you lose in flight you gain in forward roll and top spin

  • @erickbauer8888
    @erickbauer8888 2 роки тому +4

    I added two inches to my three wood shaft. I love it both off ground and off tee. Picked up ten yards but more importantly gained accuracy.

  • @AllTradesGeorge
    @AllTradesGeorge 6 місяців тому

    In addition to adjusting swing weight for the variations in shaft length, I'd also suggest having two other people...one used to the mid-length shaft, one used to the short shaft. That removes the variable of how much of the measured performance may simply be due to muscle memory and gives a better indication of what inherent performance comes with each shaft, if there's any significant differences (I'd expect differences in club head speed, for instance, but how much does that translate to actual measurable distance gained or shot dispersion?)

  • @mikeanderson3735
    @mikeanderson3735 Рік тому

    I'm 5'11'' and I took the dive and shortened my driver to 42.5in. I hit the ball long enough that I didn't care to lose some distance. I had to experiment a little and I wanted to point our a few things for people thinking about doing this. First, when you cut a driver like this you may need to add some lead tape to the bottom to get a better feel of the club head. I would also recommend increasing the loft of the driver if that's available to you. I have an old R15 with the 430cc head that I can't get away from. It's a 9.5 degree that I bumped up to 11 degrees. This made a big difference in ball flight and it also helped me from fading the ball. If you didn't know, if you increase the degree on the driver it will help close the face and for me, helped with the fade. Cutting the club like this also increase the stiffness. I have a Matrix Blacktie x stiff shaft that became much stiffer. Its been about 7 years ago when I did this and now I'm thinking I need to get a regular or stiff flex to equal out me getting older and having a slower swing.
    Outcome, I actually have better overall distance with the cut driver. I just find the center much better with a shorter driver shaft. If you are the person that can hit your 3 wood well but can't hit a driver, this might be something for you to experiment with. This is what gave me the idea of cutting it so much. Visually, I like the smaller driver head and therefore, I'm very interested in the new TM burner.

  • @williamkraus6469
    @williamkraus6469 2 роки тому

    Interesting. Love your ideas.

  • @healthdoc
    @healthdoc Місяць тому

    Shorter club all went left because the shorter club, having a shorter arc, is quicker to the ball. Play the ball back in your stance an inch or two to compensate. The longer shaft all were centered or right because the longer arc lags the club head a bit. I used to play my driver at 48” and found that it actual helped slow ME down without slowing the club head.

  • @marklynch5236
    @marklynch5236 Рік тому +1

    a fitter put a shorter driver shaft, i found the middle more and it went the same distance as the 44.5 shaft. looking at making the change for a shorter shaft

  • @Rowdeegolf
    @Rowdeegolf 2 роки тому +5

    My PXG came with a 45 1/2 inch shaft and I couldnt hit it right at all. Got refitted and put on the Evenflow Riptide CB at 50 grams R flex and I rarely miss my fairways now. Im 5'8'' and a fair player. Shorter shaft gave me much better control. I think because it was too difficult bring that clubface back to square. I was slicing it a lot.

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  2 роки тому +1

      yep helps a lot of golfers the shorter shaft

    • @DaveTheKeyDoctor
      @DaveTheKeyDoctor 18 днів тому

      I cut down my hzrdus smoke shaft to 43.5" and regripped with a super stroke oversized grip. Helped my shots be more consistent and straight. I'm using a pxg gen 4 0811xf driver. The oversized grips help you get back on center, in my opinion. I highly recommend you try oversized grips if you haven't already. I loved it so much, I regripped my gen 3 pxg 0811xf irons as well. Just my 2 cents

  • @thevoiceofcod643
    @thevoiceofcod643 2 роки тому +3

    I recently came to the realization that my best days with Driver, were years ago with the shorter shaft. X-Stiff Steel Shafts by the way. I found I didn’t have to change much with the shorter shaft, than with the longer shaft. It feels like I have to slow my swing down for the club head to catch up with the longer Driver. It’s just easier for me to whip the shorter shaft. So on days I’m driving well with the 45” shaft, every other club else feels off. Hard to gauge how far away to stand. Hooking all my other clubs left. Kind of like what you were doing with the shorter shaft. I’m about to either cut my M2 down or replace the 45” shaft. It’s to inconsistent.

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  2 роки тому +1

      Interesting I might try a steel one.

    • @thevoiceofcod643
      @thevoiceofcod643 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mattfryergolf Absolutely worth an experiment. It was basically Tiger’s Titleist 975D, before he went with Nike. I eventually went to a 42.5” UST X-Still Graphite shaft. My club Pro probably made it 43” unbeknownst to me, but he’s a good guy so it’s fine. But with that shorter shaft, I could make a move on the ball. The longer one always felt restricted. Cheers.

    • @maeu59
      @maeu59 2 роки тому +2

      That’s the problem, there are some adjustments to make for longer drivers, like a strong grip, more aggressive release, which then throws off the other clubs. I spent years trying to hit an off the rack 46” driver going with the old adage it’s not the arrow it’s the Indian, not even realizing most pros don’t hit a 46” driver. Once I found this out I started by gripping down about 2” and started hitting it straiter than ever. It’s off to get a fitting now.

    • @thevoiceofcod643
      @thevoiceofcod643 2 роки тому +2

      @@maeu59 You are correct My Friend. And I corrected it. I bought a Titleist TSi-3 with Surefit hosel. Hitting’em straight now. 🤣🥂

  • @bramfransen4645
    @bramfransen4645 2 роки тому +2

    Great test. Question: I just bought the new Epic Max LS. I didn’t try length of shaft (unfortunately). If I want to buy (just if) a new longer shaft, can I then just buy the same shaft but longer or doesn’t that work that way? I am a 7.4 handicapper.

  • @billbrooks7911
    @billbrooks7911 Рік тому

    Great video yet Every time you shorten the shaft You’re losing loft and weight. It would be interesting to see if you added loft and weight to the shorter shaft would that help with distance and accuracy by helping to hit the Sweet Spot

  • @ianshepherd6476
    @ianshepherd6476 2 роки тому

    I think of someone fades the ball they may have trouble getting around on a longer shaft but for you your miss is left and longer seems to help you a lot. Just a thought I haven’t heard brought up

  • @cchsiao817
    @cchsiao817 11 місяців тому

    after cut short the length, did everyone add weight to club head to maintain the same original swing weight? any suggestion?

  • @freekornwilly
    @freekornwilly 2 роки тому +4

    I actually cut my driver and other woods shaft to about 38” and hit it more like in iron. It has really helped with my consistency off the tee and off the deck.

    • @Max-jz7fd
      @Max-jz7fd 2 роки тому +1

      How much distance do you loose with driver ?

    • @freekornwilly
      @freekornwilly 2 роки тому +2

      @@Max-jz7fd honestly that is hard to judge. My drives were so inconsistent, I didn’t have a solid number. I would duff so many shots and a lot of the ones I didn’t I would be hitting my second shot from the adjoining green. I haven’t stuffed one shot since I did this and most of my shots are in the fairway or just off… my distance is about 220 carry right now.

  • @rickwilliams3515
    @rickwilliams3515 2 роки тому

    If you set up to the ball and use the club head position relative to the distance of your stance away from the ball wouldn't you be the same distance away with all the lengths? Asking for a friend that hits off the toe mostly??

  • @chucklucas8747
    @chucklucas8747 Рік тому

    I used 44.5 shaft 11.5 degree driver at 76 I get decent distance an great ball control at my age that's good

  • @Rickwynne
    @Rickwynne Рік тому

    Tried a driver shaft long as it came, first drive hit the green on a par 4, 290 30 feet uphill.

  • @gabel5188
    @gabel5188 4 місяці тому

    Nice to see an average golfer trying this. Just to see how they get on. Also the weighting would be good to see as well how is this done?

  • @bowl816
    @bowl816 9 місяців тому

    I tried this on my own. When I lost my swing, I used a Taylormade Miscela to get it back. This is a ladies club. Along with that I shortened my swing from 9 o’clock to 3 o’clock.
    This was a “Fairway Finder” for sure. It helped me get my swing zeroed in. I wound up changing it from a flatter swing to a more vertical swing. Very quickly I moved back to my regular driver, a Taylormade R7 draw. And eventually got the Jetspeed, with a longer shaft. These 3 have different graphite shafts.
    While I did find I hit the longer club farther, I didn’t see I lost the fairway with any of them.
    Yesterday I go to the range with yet 2 more drivers, a 47” Callaway X-hot and a Slazenger raw distance. At 45.25” both of these I hit consistently at the same distance and found the fairway.
    When I try my old flatter swing, the shorter club finds the fairway the best. My vertical swing just finds fairways way more often.
    When I tried other drivers, even new modes like the Callaway Paradigm, the 0211, & 0811 by PXG, and a new Taylormade, I found I hit mine better.
    My assumption form this the longer shafts may mean more distance, and may mean less or even more dispersion, it just depends. While I realize my experiments are less controlled, my one big improvement came from the move from a flatter swing to a vertical one.
    I no longer lose golf balls, except for the occasional water hole, when I am long or short,and for me apparently the head makes some difference, but not a ton. The swing change gained me 50 yards on my drives. I went from 220-225 to 265-275 on my best drives. My 7 iron went from the low 140’s to 165ish. I also found being a senior and a smaller man, I switched to a full hybrid set , that has improved on the yardages even more and gave me more forgiveness.

  • @marvsmith6706
    @marvsmith6706 Рік тому +1

    You need to take 6 to 8 swings with each club before you start taking data. You went from 47 to 43 inch and expected to be perfectly adjusted to a 4 inch shorter shaft on your first swing.

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT65 Рік тому

    i just ordered my new driver... STEALTH 2 HD 9 degree....UST PROFORCE V2 HL 5 regular at 44.5 inches....midsize grip...omg i can't wait till it gets here....sold my other two drivers PXG GEN 5 XF and my SIM 2 MAX.....I think i made the right choice ( I hope LOL )....cheers be well

  • @roadhog29389
    @roadhog29389 2 роки тому

    I built a 46 inch driver, Mainly because I wanted to try and build a golf club and have a bit of fun and I've found it really easy to hit. It also sends everyone deaf as it's a Nike SQ2 square head on the end of said shaft

  • @121ramnik
    @121ramnik Рік тому

    I changed my driver and started getting amazing results

  • @stevecarroll7944
    @stevecarroll7944 2 роки тому

    Matt, I think this is a video series with 3 of your students (a low, mid, and high handicapper) over 3 months. A month with each length.

  • @tvs3497
    @tvs3497 2 роки тому

    If you're an average height golfer and want to gain distance with a long shaft driver, try wearing the new platform soled golf shoes. They add 3-4" to your height so you can use the same swing path/plane and won't have any trouble with accuracy.

  • @patrickwheeler7107
    @patrickwheeler7107 2 роки тому

    I swing a 45.5 and love it. Tried a 43.5 it was a disaster.

  • @Max-jz7fd
    @Max-jz7fd 2 роки тому

    Been 44.25 " for ages now, no loss of distance but more accurate.

  • @alanduncan9204
    @alanduncan9204 2 роки тому

    I just swapped my Driver shaft 45" Project X 6.0 onto my Callaway 3 wood at 13 degrees. It goes straighter with a slight fade and I was hitting over 240 yds. I also carry a 16 degree 3 wood that I hit really straight at around 215 to 220 yds. I did not try the Driver on the 3 wood shaft as it seems too short.
    The real question is...Why do the maufacturers choose that shaft length for the standard over the counter Driver? Going for a fitting that is not the first thing a fitter looks at unless the person is 6 foot 5 or 5 foot 2.

  • @roger55es
    @roger55es Місяць тому

    I'd imagine ones height along with their HC and what they have been used to would be a great guide line. Thanks

  • @heidbumbee1689
    @heidbumbee1689 2 роки тому +3

    Interesting test. I have been away from golf for about 15 years (no jail time involved, honest guv).
    As a golf pro, you know how to manage club variations of all sorts. I would be interested to see the results from a high and medium handicapper trying the same test

  • @pedroc6823
    @pedroc6823 2 роки тому

    Tried this last year, I am not tall at all at 67”. Tried 44.5 , 45 and 45.5. To my shock The longer club was more accurate and I would smash it. I simply felt the club head where it was .
    All sane shafts and yes I had the club swing weight adjusted by adding a tip weight to the shorter shaft.
    46 was a disaster.

  • @ravik3000
    @ravik3000 Рік тому

    In the end, the question is about accuracy and club head speed. If you can get fast club head speed and deliver the club right in the middle then use whichever length that works for you. Don’t go by what everyone else is doing.

  • @mksmith713
    @mksmith713 Рік тому

    The first question I have, before I even watched the video, is, did you adjust each shaft so the swing weights match?

  • @ironmaiden5584
    @ironmaiden5584 2 роки тому

    That mat moving on the downswing would drive me absolutely bananas.

  • @jaredmckay2494
    @jaredmckay2494 Рік тому

    I have a buddy with a 50" shaft and it was easier to hit for me but I am 6'3 and I play a draw or hook on bad drives. I think the longer driver is a little harder to close the face so I could hit a fade or baby draw easily just like in the video how the smaller shafts went more left. I think height does play a factor though

  • @jeffreybone3445
    @jeffreybone3445 6 місяців тому

    I played yesterday with a cobra Jr's club...I'm guessing 2 inches shorter than my pxg 0211 or my ping g30. I hit 6 of 7 fairways and only missed the 7th because of roll out. I am DEFINITELY looking for a newer Jr driver to keep in my bag. Oh, and gave up scant yards on center face strikes and maybe 10 or 12ish on average. Sure felt good not losing any balls and playing from the short grass 95 percent of the time.

  • @robertpohaku7176
    @robertpohaku7176 8 місяців тому

    I’d like to see adjusted swing weights with each shaft change 👍

  • @akselnielsen4231
    @akselnielsen4231 2 роки тому +6

    Did you take into account the swingweight beeing different with the shafts ? I assume the swingweight will be different with each shaft ? That might be why you where striking the longer shaft better aswell

  • @holmer9413
    @holmer9413 2 роки тому

    I've played with an extended shaft for going on 15 years. I see no problem with it in my game at all.

  • @skylercutsforth8595
    @skylercutsforth8595 11 місяців тому

    It does seem like getting a longer shaft would help if you tend to over draw the ball? delays the whip/turn over of the head so you can present the club more square?
    Overdrawing is my experience and I am very curious to see if this would be a ideal improvement option to hit more fairways..?
    Maybe swing weight would be a better way? I can't say I know much about that.
    Neglecting the on the range grinding swing work which effects the most.. Tho its so frustrating to find that equilibrium of what your body is most aptly/consistently in tune with, tempo wise, or body/arm synchronization wise, or club path tendencies and such, for you to do the least amount of focused controlling of your swing mid round. or pre round even.

  • @mds5062
    @mds5062 2 роки тому

    are you measuring the grip to adapter tip or with the head on? I believe proper is to measure with the head on but without a 48inch ruler its hard to get an exact measurement. I am using a grip to adapter 45.5 shaft with a head and measuring with a tape measurer, its in the 47-48 range. I'm a taller guy and steep swing so the extra length has given me about 2-3 more SS and roughly the same ball speed (rapsodo). I'm a 14 so accuracy isn't my strength but from a pure distance standpoint I've picked up at least 5 yards with the longer shaft.

    • @jamesortega3119
      @jamesortega3119 2 роки тому

      I also wondered if the measurements are of the overall club length (e.g., top of grip to bottom of club head when lying flat on a bench) or if it just the length of the shaft before attaching the head. And then, if it's just the shaft before attaching the head, is it measuring simply the overall length of the shaft (end to end) or just down to where the adapter attaches to the head? Finally, what does "SS" mean in the phrase is "given me about 2-3 more SS"?

  • @edwardspray5930
    @edwardspray5930 Рік тому

    I've watched a few vids on driver shaft lengths, there are so many people saying the average length on tour is 44" an average length number which they are not matching to the height of each golfer smh it purely depends on the height and wrist height of each individual golfer i.e. if you're 6ft1" with long arms you're going to use a 44" driver shaft. If you're 6ft1" with short arms you're going to need a 45+" driver shaft

  • @brucedavidson8934
    @brucedavidson8934 2 роки тому

    Very good video. Isn’t it the relationship to your height and therefore the balance in the arc that is key?

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  2 роки тому

      Its to do more with timing as the arc is wider so the clubhead is farther away making it harder to control.

    • @brucedavidson8934
      @brucedavidson8934 2 роки тому

      @@Mattfryergolf Ok sounds good. I appreciate your reply.

  • @carlosrandolez
    @carlosrandolez 10 місяців тому

    Just bought a second hand cobra ltdx, came with a 55g regular helium shaft, swapped out my cobra fairway tour tensai blue 65g shaft, I couldn’t stop it going left…. Hmmmm.
    I cut down a shaft a few years back in my taylormade xr03 driver by an inch, massive difference in consistency and hitting fairways and only lost say 5 yards in distance, I feel technology in heads these days where shafts are built differently for different heads and weights of shaft doesn’t work as well as “back in the day”

  • @MrSig-ye8hq
    @MrSig-ye8hq 4 дні тому

    For me Longer shafts = Right misses. Shorter shafts = left misses. Cutting the shaft reduces the flex making the shaft play stiffer, but also reduces the swing weight or balance point making the club feel lighter. You kinda have to know what you specifically want before you cut the shaft in regards to shaft specs.

  • @MrDaviator1
    @MrDaviator1 2 роки тому

    Haven't personally experimented, but I am shaft curious

  • @jc238
    @jc238 Місяць тому

    I was hoping for the Mizuno STx as per thumbnail 😏

  • @MichaelSisley-fw3xr
    @MichaelSisley-fw3xr Місяць тому

    I experimented with long, medium, short drivers when I was younger, maybe 30 years ago. Swing weights must match up to get this right. I found I could move it further with a 48in driver. I got consistency and accuracy with shorter driver, and a loss of distance. I now play a 42" 12 degree driver, senior flex shaft. I'm 65 and not as capable as I was 30 years ago. My game is centered on accuracy since distance is not my strong suit now. Really, the individual has to find what works for them. From observations (not scientific data) higher handicap players on average, would probably benefit from a shorter driver. I have seen many guys in the 70s who use a hybrid or fairway wood from the tee to guarantee hitting the middle of the fairway, knowing 20 or 30 more yards in the trees or rough kills the score. Everyone is an individual. See what works better for you personally.

  • @paulbrown7425
    @paulbrown7425 Рік тому

    42 for me consistent and straight job done 👍

  • @shellyad100
    @shellyad100 3 місяці тому

    I've been extending my driver length for more than 40 years and way back then I used 50 inch drivers..I also extended my irons by 2 inches which made my regular shafts quite whippy but I got used to them and I gained distance and height..All these years later I just club up with my irons but I play 47 and a half inch shaft in my driver..The trick to hitting the sweet spot more often is playing from a slightly higher tee and slightly further back in your stance..For even more distance take your back swing as far back as you can and lengthen your back swing..I have many many rounds of golf finding all the fairways for the entire round..Hope this helps someone..If anyone tries what I've explained please let me know..Thanks

  • @parbogeypar
    @parbogeypar Рік тому

    Cutting a driver to 43 requires loads of weight to be added to the head. Well beyond what's available in screw in head weights. Just taking an inch off requires adding an extra 12g above whatever is already fitted to get back to the original swing weight.

  • @markaochoa2017
    @markaochoa2017 2 роки тому

    Yes! Blind test!

  • @fredlowe908
    @fredlowe908 2 роки тому +1

    Tested at the Scottish golf show and was advised that 1” off the standard shaft was better for me. I’m only 5’9” so how much does height have to do with this?

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah that will have a factor as well as hand eye coordination

    • @michaellischio7617
      @michaellischio7617 2 роки тому +2

      I’m 5’ 5” and going from 44.5” to 43” definitely helped.

  • @lukeyoneshot6040
    @lukeyoneshot6040 2 роки тому

    I went shorter and lost so much distance but i found it easier to control

  • @Big-Crow
    @Big-Crow 2 роки тому

    I could watch you hit the 43” all day

  • @T-little187
    @T-little187 4 місяці тому

    Playing a 46.5” shaft swing weight at E3 sledge hammer

  • @RossTheNinja
    @RossTheNinja 2 роки тому

    I think it's what you do with it that counts

  • @Vee-Hive
    @Vee-Hive 2 роки тому

    0:46 Are these shafts even trimmed the same? Some like like they're tip trimmed and others look butt trimmed.

  • @fairwaygolfsupply100
    @fairwaygolfsupply100 2 роки тому

    interesting

  • @inthebunker9278
    @inthebunker9278 Рік тому

    You really need to hit 20 balls minimum and take the best 5. Like you say, you need to allow Room for Error on your part, plus you're using range Balls. Some may be more battered than others. They deform and lose form.
    However, that said, everything you've suggested is pretty correct I think. For my 2 cents as they say, a longer shaft will always always give you a longer drive. It's basic physics. If we then talk about accuracy, it's down the the player, not the shaft lol.
    I've a PING G10 Regular and a Mizuno ST190G with an Atmos 6Stiff tour Spec. The PING is 1 inch longer and easy out drives my Miz by around 30-40 yards. The Miz being an Inch shorter and a Stiff shaft, is costing me distance, but switching between the two randomly on the range always effects my accuracy as the Setup changes.
    Remember, any length of shaft in the hands of a total novice, will likely show the same results. Control and Stability come from Experience and Skill, not shafts.
    Great vid. Thanks.

  • @peterschmitt9802
    @peterschmitt9802 2 місяці тому

    I'm 5'6", so the 43" driver is well suited for me.

  • @AGClassicCarTuning
    @AGClassicCarTuning Рік тому

    Interesting, but an awful lot of variables involved to really take anything from the results or outcome. Some tape on the face to show impact position would have also been beneficial, also swing path details to offer some explanation for the left shot tendency etc.

  • @whitakerfindlater7320
    @whitakerfindlater7320 2 роки тому

    The only thing I would want shorter shafts is in my irons like Bryson does I think if you shorten your irons would have more consistency in your iron play

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, just got to have the clubhead speed to launch them

  • @fy328
    @fy328 6 місяців тому

    was the swing wieght the same?