History Buffs: From Hell
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- From Hell is a 2001 American mystery horror film directed by the Hughes brothers and loosely based on the graphic novel From Hell by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell about the Jack the Ripper murders.
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Hey guys! I made a stupid mistake at 45 seconds of showing a picture of Spring Heeled Jack. This has nothing to do with Jack the Ripper, so please ignore that image. Sorry for making this mistake in the first place. I hope you enjoyed the rest of the video
History Buffs Oh come on Nick it was my fault. Shouldnt have sent in that picture. Sorry guys :(
This is unacceptable, turn in your history buffs badge and gun and have your desk cleared out by the end of the video.
Is their biggest flaw that we don’t know who he really is?
(Mind you I haven’t not seen this movie)
I've sort of adapted to your random trolling moments anyway, so it's no big deal.
Slippity Slap, Spring Heeled Jack! ua-cam.com/video/o7VNVL3yKks/v-deo.html and away we goooooo.......
Jack the Ripper kills 5 women. Gets hundreds of books written about him, tv shows and movies as well. Some dude makes a hotel of death that would make Jigsaw jealous and is only just now getting his own movie?
John Doe I guess because of mystery of jack the ripper of who he is. Even other fiction novels like to put him or her in cannon. Jack Ripper the muse.
John Doe I KNOW RIGHT?!? it would be a perfect horror movie!
hotel of death? are you referring to the las vagas shooting? that was ok but not much to talk about. some guy went up there with m60s and blew everyone away. while jack the ripper knifed people different ways and different times. i know almost nothing about jack but id say it mostly has to do with the time period. people were bored back then so they made books about what happen to now people are just scared or offended to talk about it
Elite GamingWolf are you serious? You think they're really referencing the las vegas shooting? Nah they are talking about this guy who built a hotel with traps and shit then killed his guests in it
Elite GamingWolf Did you even watch the video?
“If the source material is such a burden to your narrative, why even adapt it in the first place?”
Words cannot express how much I love that statement. Thank you, sir.
@Spanish Moustache Nick's point is that they could have made a better Jack the Ripper movie if they'd written their own Freemason conspiracy plot instead of botching an adaptation of the graphic novel. Same brand, therefore same possible brand recognition, but resulting in better material.
@Ben Hill But that statement would be wrong. I doubt in the slightest that Moore finds Jack the Ripper's history "a bore". I don't know if you have read From Hell comic book, however, reading it felt that Moore took a piece of history which he loved and created a story from it because he really found interesting to explore, the same goes for George R. Martin's A Chronicle of Ice and Fire is based on the War of the Roses etc.
Basically I'm saying you cannot create such unique fictional plot (like From Hell comics, not the movie) without liking the base for it, since Moore probably had to research plenty of facts to put into the comic.
Well the source material was a fictional graphic novel.... BASED ON historical events. It wasn't a reference book about the murders. But I do agree with the statement in as it pertains to the movie industry as a whole.
the source material always exists.
RUN WITH IT IF YOU WISH - go wherever you like with.
The source remains, along with whatever dumb stories that sprout from it
Right, like go full Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter or just do Lincoln....no more half measures Hollywood
I love how someone can look at Queen Victoria, probably the single most powerful person in the world at the time, with one of the biggest and best equipped armies in the world at her disposal, and think "yes, if she wanted someone dead, she'd use her ancient doctor who just had a stroke"
People want Hollywood in real history
Everyone would’ve noticed otherwise
It made More sense in The comic, its a good read Even though Alan Moore has disowned it since he was wrong.
To be fair yoy don't send an army to kill 5 women of the night
Queen Vic WAS rather crazy.
I love how Ian Holms eyes get blacker and blacker as he becomes the killer. It’s such a cool touch. I loved this movie!!
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet."
- Jack The Ripper 1965
The narrator doesn't seem to have researched British History in the area of Whitechapel. Just copying what he's read.
1965 ripper was a different killer this one was in 1888 big difference
Mike Cahill i hope you realize you just went right over the message.. don’t believe everything you read online ;) ps the Internet wasn’t even invented until the 1980’s.. that was also part of the message you went right over🤣
it was 1963
how about watch? since I didn't just read a youtube video
What I learned from that movie: Bilbo Baggins is an evil monster...
hahahaha
He does make a face similar to when he saw the OneRing again in Rivendell LOL!
It's not his fault. The ring corrupted him.
This is one hell of an adventure he went on…
Bilbo was a hero
I'd really recommend people read "The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper" by Hallie Rubenhold. She actually attempts to reconstruct the lives of the victims as opposed to obsessing over their unknown killer. She also concludes that only two of the five were sex workers.
I really liked that book! Though I found it pretty depressing because Rubenhold did such a good job reconstructing who these women actually were, and yet their deaths were so violent and sensationalized.
They're called the canon five right?
If you sell your body on the street, you’re a whore
That's the kind of series I want to see. Also there is no evidence pointing that they were friends, much less knew each other.
it's bullshit.
Either the severity of the acts or being one of the first serial killers are usually why this is thought to be so famous but it's also really interesting that he invented/perfected the taunting criminal troupe that is a staple of action movies and comic books. Even naming himself, it's the epitome of every Criminal Minds villain ever.
There was a strongly held belief that only the poor and destitute were capable of doing something like this, and to have the evidence point towards a well-educted and connected person went against this supposed natural law.
I love how on each of this guys videos the people who like the film's are like "OMG WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ACCURATE IT'S JUST A STORY" Yeah he doesn't do movie reviews, he's not telling you to hate the movie, he's telling you why it's historically inaccurate. If you like the film fine no one cares.
Why are you so angry?
Hypnotic bc I'm a bitch
With this movie you can go ahead and hate it. The graphic novel is pretty good but the movie? So terrible...
Ly M shut up asswipe
Wow, you really brought some quality to the discussion.
Love your intro😀 Basiclly saying:" UA-cam please dont be stupid"😂
Yep demonitize.
I fear it won't help much though. UA-cam is run by the freemasons.
UA-cam will STILL demonetize it. Because STUPID is what UA-cam does. They have a deathwish and demonetize everything that is not coming from CNN, NBC, Disney, CBS & so far and so forth.
Mikosch2 they're Freemasons? I was under the impression Google was run by southern Asians.
I wish UA-cam was run by ANYONE. Someone once programmed a nice Algorithm that takes down and demonitizes Videos for a variety of strange reasons and said:"all done, now no work needs to be done by a human every again for this site."
"Oh! I thought you didn't care about the Jews!"
For some reason I laughed more than I thought I would. Perhaps it was Nick's delivery, but my stomach hurt from laughter.
"Doctor Who is the best Twilight Zone movie." George Washington, 1492 BC.
"America is the best country of the United states of Pakistan." Haix Madrid Portugal, 1669 AD.
"It's over Anakin! I have the high ground."
Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, The Battle of Gettysburg, 1863.
@Wyatt Griffin "best one so far" Jeff Goldbloom 1779
"that's why yo mama dead," -Bentio Mussolini at the Gettysburg Address
My good sir, I hate to be a contrarian but I would be remiss if I did not gently and respectfully correct the misinformation in this post. Sadly the first piece of information should be updated, the legenedary british science fiction series is not Doctor Who, but indeed is Inspector Spacetime. Thank you for your indulgence in this matter.
Marco Polo next. come oooon. You know Templars Vs Mongols are cool and historically accurate.
RedTeamReview I agree with carboy
Wich movie put TEMPLARS in a Marco Polo movie? It's for real?
It may not be historically accurate, buts it's cool to see a show with an almost all asian cast
TylerN101 with token white guy haha
The Netflix series?
Nachos are awesome. Abraham Lincoln - 1863
Pietree Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. - King Arthur, 1776
Pietree you fool the date is wrong! it should be 1914 after he killed Hitler!
Pietree I didn't say half the Shit people think I said- Abraham Lincoln
Aaaarrrghhh.......Napoleon, 1821
Anime was a mistake - Hayao Miyazaki 1568
The movie is historically inaccurate, but what an atmosphere they managed to create! Filthy and depraved streets of Whitechapel, medical atrocities, degraded people (also, they display of poor Elephant Man was shocking) - all this accompanied by disturbing music and sometimes very impressive cinematography. I was very awed yet fascinated when I was watching it for the first time.
Agreed. I think the movie is worth watching for that. Suspend disbelief about the tinfoil conspiracy; the acting and all-round setup is first-class.
I agree 100%. The atmosphere they conjured up is remarkable. For someone as obsessed with the Victorian Age as me this movie is a little gem
If you can, watch the 1988 mini-series starring Michael Caine and Lewis Collins. Entirely historically accurate.
I doubt england was that kinda shithole back then tho or maybe it was. Movies just like to promote the image that everything in the past was gloomy and shitty.
@@Jebu911 Actually, London was that bad then. I’ve seen photos taken at the time to highlight the plight of the poor. Many big cities had horrifying living conditions. Check out the book How the other Half Lives by Jacob Riis. He photographed the slums of NY around the same time. Truly awful.
There’s a computer game called “Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper” where you actually confront a few of the real world suspects.
I've always liked the idea that Jack was the Servant Girl Annihilator, a serial killer with a similar MO who operated in Austin, TX, who murdered at least eight women between 1884 and 1885. There were contemporary speculation by investigators they were the same person, and Scotland Yard investigated the possibility as well as a sailor said that his ship hired a cook out of Texas in early 1886 (shortly after the Austin killings stopped) and they arrived in London in 1888 (shortly before the Jack killings started). Since neither person was caught, it's still purely speculation based on circumstantial evidence.
The book on the Austin killings makes a strong point, like it was a trail run before his England killings.
What about H.H. Holmes?
They seem to different. @@BeEnNLGaming
“Jacking It” is your best chapter title yet.
really glad to see you like the 1988 jack the ripper mini-series , michael caine & lewis collins leads a great cast that raise this far above the average shows of that time.....
You enjoyed this one, how about "Citizen X" about the Soviet Serial killer. The film prompted me to study the case, and seems close. As opposed to "Gorky Park" which I suspect to be nonsense .
Holy Jesus Atamaii? This is the last place I'd expect to see you. Thanks for being a big part of my childhood.
@@ice_springtrap8225 haha thanks for the kind words!
Which soviet killer chessboard?
gorky park has nothing to do with that case and isn't a true story.
@@giovannicervantes2053 No, Andrei Chikatilo, The Butcher of Rostov, and The Rostov Ripper
16:25 If he married a Catholic, he wouldn't be in line to the throne anymore, and neither would the kid. lol.
The Act of Settlement 1701 was a pretty major bit of history, I'm surprised the great Nick Hodges missed it.
When I watched it with my son, I sited the Act as well. But then I had to remind myself that From Hell is a fictional work. By the way, the book is absolutely amazing and if you haven't read it, then you should.
Not to mentiin the Royal Marriages Act 1772
@@joleyeytel3699 I thought it was a comic book?
@@gutz323 -- it is, and the concept art is amazing. It is a graphic novel, so larger than the typical comic. Most libraries have it now. It is worth checking out
Yep. The Act of Settlement and Royal Marriages Act would have rendered the child illegitimate either way.
Do "The Great Escape" next! It is the perfect mix of a great movie along with a wealth of inaccuracies for you to dig into.
gmYT91 nah, escape to victory
Bridge on the River Kwai. Best movie ever made in any category (except historical accuracy, which isn't a category). There's so much to say there about treatment of POWs and population in SE Asia, "I hate the British!", the Hollywood Black List, etc.
Just to make everyone scratch there heads to even fathom this movie being on this channel, I give to you "Kelly's Heroes."
The grape ex rape
Newgate Prison was a prison at the corner of Newgate Street and Old Bailey Street just inside the City of London, England, originally at the site of Newgate, a gate in the Roman London Wall. Built in the 12th century and demolished in 1904, the prison was extended and rebuilt many times, and remained in use for over 700 years, from 1188 to 1902.
I remember the mini-series that starred Michael Cane in 1988. It came out on the 100th anniversary of the Jack the Ripper murders & was apparently written with information made available by the statute of limitations having expired after 100yrs on the files kept from that time. Michael Cane at that time in his career seemed to make films in duo's, with similar locales or themes, this was made next to the Sherlock Holmes comedy Without a Clue (the other duo films were Blame it on Rio & Water, which were both about middle age Englishmen in Carribean locations).
No member of the royal family is allowed to marry without the permission of the reigning monarch, and no catholic can be heir to the throne. That's the law.
Correct. The Royal Marriage Act. I was beginning to think I was the only one that knew that. As you say, in other words, Clarence could have married as many females as he liked, but they would all have been put aside as if they had never happened, so why would it have mattered even if he DID marry a low class-girl of ANY background? Not one bit of it would have affected the Throne. A.N. Other bastard is just that - nothing that would have mattered to anyone.
@@mysteriousstranger416 oh,but you must realize the scandal! It would be the talk of the Town for weeks !
Indeed, a law that would be struck down if ever actually contested today but at the time would have been as solid as a granite column.
yeah, i heard that if u are marrying the Royal(Anglican) u have to covert from Catholic to Anglican and if the Royal wants to marry the Catholic and doesn't want to Rule he might be exiled that what i heard just help me clear that doubt (from Indian teen who is Catholic)
@@sailor_guy9841 At the very least excluded from the line of
succession,like Austrian archduke
Franz Ferdinand,although he voluntarily gave up his right when he married a lesser noblewoman;called a "morganantic marriage."
Fun fact, the term “sneakers” which we use today for footwear arises from the time when Whitechapel police men would go out at night prowling for the Ripper with slabs of rubber affixed to their boots to muffle their footsteps. Hence, sneakers.
The graphic novel is great; haunting in its gothic starkness, with many cultural references that just don't make it into the movie but add to the air of Victorian London that hangs over the whole story. Not only that but Moore explores the psychology of serial killers and ties it into many infamous 20th century killers.
The movie is a poor adaptation of the graphic novel and yet I found it an entertaining watch; there's something about the psychedelic nature of the cinematography that ties into the gothic air of the book. However I agree that the TV short series is a better exploration of this particular theory. I think it's fascinating to see all the tie ins though - the Walter Sickert connection explored in Moore's book is really interesting.
I agree. I never thought of it as historically accurate, but I thought the movie itself was an interesting spin from the true history, and also from the source graphic novel. I really like it.
Yeah, the comic was a much better read than the movie was to watch. Gull was downright scary in the graphic novel.
Having said that, I still enjoyed the movie back in the day because I had it on DVD and I would play it in the background as white noise whenever I was doing something else like playing games.
The guy who wrote withnail and I, Bruce Robinson has just written a book about jack the ripper, apparently it's very good.
I remember watching this film when I was younger, I tuned in the middle of the film, and I thought it was about Jekyll and Hyde at first. In short, I learned about Jack the ripper from this film.
You must have been so confused...
GriffinPilgrim Oh I was, then I did more research on the topic and then wondered what the hell the movie producers were thinking.
DJWoody Huh really?
The Michael Caine film "Jack The Ripper" that you see clips of in this video, had a secondary plot about Jekyll and Hyde. Armand Assante played the actor in the first stage show of Jekyll and Hyde being performed around London. People started to believe that transformation was real, and blamed him for the murders.
This is better than absinthe with a little laudanum mixed in.
Is it? :)
Abe Froman I love this show, but we both know that's not true. ;)
Why not have all three? :)
Don't let the cat out of the bag
with a little laudanum...well thats your problem..you need ALOT of laudanum...that makes everything great.
14:27 When I heard this, I was like, “Why does that sound familiar?” Then I realized that that’s Malcolm McDowell from Rob Zombie’s Halloween.
Damn, Doc Loomis’ quote from the Halloween remake does go really well with Jack
14:27
Also, McDowell played Jack the Ripper before.
I think one of the most chilling things about Jack the Ripper is when one of his victims was found with a still-gushing wound, meaning Jack was disrupted during the kill and was likely just feet away from the man who found her
Lucky jack
The man who “found” the first victim seems very suspicious. He lied to the police about his name. All the murders were close to the route he walked to go to work. His job allowed him to wear a bloody apron without anyone looking twice.
@@Getonyourbelly How could they all be close to the route he took to work when they are scattered in 5 different locations in opposite directions from each other? Google jack the ripper murder map and you'll see that doesn't make sense. Remember as well that he extracted organs so he would have to be casually walking through white chapel with a bloody apron and freshly removed organs, and a surgical knife, he would of been caught straight away..
@@ryanbarton7757 It was mentioned in another comment that for one the guy was a butcher so that was the explanation for the apron and he did deliveries so that was how he got everywhere
@@catfoy8888 delivering meat during the early hours of the morning with a bloody apron and a surgical knife??..sounds legit 😂😂 I'm sure prostitutes wouldn't find a man walking around with a bloody apron and surgical knife suspicious in the slightest considering the circumstances..
Can you do "Gangs of New York" next, please?
One of my all time favs. Plus it's a cool era which is rarely discussed. At least with the poorer class. (Not sure why everyone and their dog is smitten with posh Victorian society)
The American Navy never opened fire on New York citizens to break up an angry mob and Boss Tweed was much more menacing and manipulative in real life. Boom, done.
Thats a GREAT Idea....
Excellent concept for an episode.
This is an awesome idea. Please do it!
After reading the Graphic Novel several times, the film adaptation was a huge disappointment. While Moore ha had invented a plot behind the events, almost all of the scenes related to the killing were right out of historical evidence. He obsessively did his research.
I am of the opinion it was Charles Cross. The evidence presented in the investigative documentary "Jack The Ripper, The Missing Evidence" makes the most sense , even if it is circumstantial, but considering that it has been well over 140 years since the murders, I would have to say that such circumstantial evidence would have to suffice at this point.
"Well he said it better than I could." - I think that's a fitting description of Alan Moore's work on the whole.
I for one was personally offended and I can assure you, Mr. So-Called-Historian, that I am NOT dead OR buried. UA-cam will be hearing about this slight that I have suffered.
I know this is a joke, but I don't see the point
HVPinc I too see the horrific insults to myself as the death of many people is not acceptable. You will be hearing the court dates soon Hodges, and I expect you to plead guilty for encouraging my nightmares.
Dick.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE! Won't anyone think of the easily offended souls on the internet?
no well bred man would be offended by this video, unless you're a jew.
I kinda laughed that a disclaimer was put in for youtube. From other youtube channels it seems like it when content gets reported, YOutube just block and ban without actually reviewing the content.
Jack could say "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to a lot of silly theories"
A really intelligent distillation of the murders. I've read a few books, seen a few documentaries about Red Jack over the years, but the way you tell it, it seems to make a lot more sense. Good work!
Please do Last of the Mochicans. One of my favourite historical film. Really curious how accurate it is.Please please please.come on Nick
holy hell, scorsese directing a film about h.h. holmes starring dicaprio!? sounds spectacular but i reckon it'll be a bit too weird of a story to make. like, imagine the saw-films as costume dramas and there you go.
and it's just the kind of true story that makes you think had this been a film it would be too unrealistic.
i'll definitely go see it though!
kloggmonkey Saw is fan fiction compared to Holmes . . . .
The book "The Devil in the White City" tells two stories -- the story of H H Holmes and his murders, and the creation and running of the Chicago World's Fair. Both stories get equal time. I have a feeling the movie will only concentrate on Holmes. One of the more interesting stories it tells is of George Washington Ferris and the creation of the first Ferris wheel.
I HIGHLY recommend the book to anybody who is a history fan.
"imagine saw-films as costume dramas". That sounds like Sweeney Todd (which is also a musical)
But Holmes' story is fiction. His "castle" was never used as a hotel and he didn't kill any people in it. That's 1940's fiction, nothing more.
Holmes' killing spree made it all the way up to Canada, and hey, we'll be happy if we get some screentime even in a fucked-up Scorcese-DiCaprio murderfest.
This is the first of your videos I’ve seen. Very thorough and insightful. Thank you for the time and effort.
I'm fairly familiar with the Jack the Ripper saga, having lived in Whitechapel and worked in Hanbury Street, where one of the murders was committed. I've never heard the facts - and only the facts! - summarised so concisely. Thanks for that.
Whitechapel is fairly crowded now, and was even more crowded then. Being so close to the docks, there was a large transient population. The People of the Abyss, by Jack London, gives a fair idea of what life was like - it was written some years later, but conditions hadn't changed that much.
I've never understood why a distinguished knighted surgeon should dirty his hands, especially when men could be hired for a few pounds to do any necessary removal.
I'll take a bet that, if the name of the Ripper was ever announced, people will say "Who? Never heard of him. [or her]"
And it's about time that the Dick Van Dyke School For Leaning To Speak Cockney was closed down.
When researchers tried to reconstruct the evidence in the Final Solution, it was found the entire thing was a big fraud.
Excellent comment and I fully agree.
Also the last part 😂
Hate to be nitpicking, but the first newspaper shows spring heeled jack, who is an urban legend based on a series of attacks and murders from 1837, whereas Jack the Ripper wasn't active until 1888. Spring Heeled jack supposedly could leap great distances and had claws. They just happen to be both called jack.
I just realised that now and I feel stupid. Sorry about that slipup
No problem, loved the rest of the video!
would like to point out spring-heeled jack was a groper. There were no murders in the spring-heeled jack case, at most they were attempted rape
"Jack" was an old English moniker often given to un-named men. Such as "Spring heeled Jack", "Jack the Ripper" etc
The old penny dreadfuls of the time would have been full of stories about some "Jack the ..." , or other.
Was this before or after Spring Heeled Jack became a vampire in popular culture?
_I'm not a butcher, not a Yid_
_Nor yet a foreign skipper_
_But I'm your own light-hearted friend_
_Yours Truly,_
*JACK THE RIPPER.*
1stPCFerret Did Jack actually say that?
@@TruePT No, that's a "street poem" from that period. I believe l found that in Donald Rumbelow's excellent book, "The Complete Jack The Ripper".
1stPCFerret Thanks, I'll definitely look for it!
@@TruePT That book was written back in the 1960's I believe. It's long out of print.
1stPCFerret Really? Wow
I'm always going to be disturbed that this is one of the mysteries of the world that cannot and will not be solved.
Love your take on movies and the history you dig up / educate people on.
So HH Holmes was the original Jigsaw.
There actually seems to be a lot more evidence now that the reports about HH Holmes were very exaggerated, and that much of what people think they know about him came from over sensationalized and unverified reports in newspapers looking to sell more issues. It seems that his murdering had more to do with covering up fraudulent insurance schemes and lies than with a psychopathic desire to kill and torture. He was definitely a terrible person who killed several women and children, and he was very likely a narcissistic sociopath, but his reasons for doing so are probably not what many think. There is another video on UA-cam that goes into some of the history and is pretty interesting
jonservo you might be a sociopath dude
@@jonservo
Hello, I've just tried to find a free movie/video about H H Holmes, but there appear to be none.
Do you, by any chance, know where I could find one? Thank you...;-)
@@Patricia-un6kv UA-camr Joe Scott has made a video about H. H. Holmes that goes into details about his life, and his hotel.
@@TheNewAgeViking
Many thanks for your help.
Stay safe and well, wherever you are...;-)
Recently read the graphic novel and it's an amazing work of art.
I'm hooked on this channel since the 1st video I've watched. This is the 3rd I'm into so far and it's hasn't disappointed me yet!
You might be interested to know that the theory behind this movie and the 1988 Jack the Ripper movie was also used in a 1979 Sherlock Holmes movie, Murder by Decree. (Christopher Plummer played Holmes and James Mason played Watson.)
...I'm discussing events that happened 129 years ago. Anyone who could be offended by this is *dead* and *buried* .
Great one mate.
Sad it had to be said.
Actually, they're not. In a recent documentary, they found the descendants of some of the victims and of one of the main suspects.
@@Applebyreviews The thing is, it's a video explicitly claiming to cover the accuracy of a movie about a serial killer that's also a controversial adaptation of somebody's else work that was loosely based on real historical events whose details are debated to this day. No shit people are going to have different opinions on it. Alan Moore certainly did
Unfortunately, people today will no doubt still find SOME reason to be offended...ugh😔
Let us not forget this little gem.
Murder by Decree is a 1979 British-Canadian mystery thriller film directed by Bob Clark. It features the Sherlock Holmes and Dr John Watson characters created by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who are embroiled in the investigation surrounding the real-life 1888 Whitechapel murders committed by "Jack the Ripper". Christopher Plummer plays Holmes and James Mason plays Watson. Though it features a similar premise, it is notably different in tone and result to A Study in Terror. It is loosely based on The Ripper File by Elwyn Jones and John Lloyd.
The film's premise of the plot behind the murders is influenced by the book, Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, by Stephen Knight, who presumed that the killings were part of a Masonic plot. The original script contained the names of the historical suspects, Sir William Gull and John Netley. In the actual film, they are represented by fictional analogues; Thomas Spivy (Gull) and William Slade (Netley). This plot device was later used in other Jack The Ripper-themed fiction, including the graphic novel From Hell.
Yes great film!
Fun fact:
Frank Finlay played Inspector Lestrade in both films.
Oh, thank you, never heard of this!
Actually speaking of Sherlock Holmes, the anime/manga moriarty the patriot actually has Jack the Ripper, and actually has an interesting payoff (is that is what it’s called)
At first I thought you were talking about another 1979 film about Jack the Ripper called Time After Time. It starred Malcolm McDowell and real life wife Mary Steenburgen, while David Warner plays Jack the Ripper. It has to do with the two of them time traveling.
I LOVE YOU!
YOU ARE HILARIOUSLY SNIDE, (appropriately so), and your mark is true and just. I've got to see more of your work. Thank you.
The reason people like conspiracies is that it gives them the sense that someone is in charge. The randomness of life can be a scary thing and the idea that no one is ever really safe is unsettling.
Same can be said for religion.
for some people, maybe.
No. People believe in them because alot of the time, they're true.
**"If the source material is such a burden to your narrative, then why even bother adapting it in the first place?"** Well said!
Nostalgia chick made a good point in defence of one of the aspects of the film. The movie takes time to show the humanity and plight of the victims and portrays them as characters rather than people to be killed in the Jack the Ripper narrative. So it gets points for that at least
Nostalgia Chick shouldn't be mentioned on a video like this.
Aerry Suri have you seen her newer content? She does the occasional video essay on generational depictions of pop culture figures and what they say about the culture that produced them. And it still remains a valid point. Out of all the depictions of Jack the Ripper, none develop the victims as much as from hell. And the victims I find much more interesting than speculating who Jack the Ripper was
She makes some interesting points, but history is not, repeat, not her strength. I'm still pissed at the part of her video on Captain America where she contends Cap couldn't be so anti-racist because virtually everyone was racist during WW II, and she cites as her source comic books. I thought of suggesting some books about the ACLU, leftist organizations, and so on, but why bother?
Flora Posteschild I totally agree. Her content is overall very mediocre and her opinions really don't mesh with my own but regarding the victims was a valid point. I personally have spent more time reading the victims pages on Casebook then any of the suspects. I just find them way more interesting both before their deaths and even after but that's my personal tastes
Her field is in film, not history, so that's what she focuses on. History Buffs is just the reverse. They are both valid in their own respect and nobody is perfect.
Watching this after recently finishing “The Devil in the White City” and I think that H.H. Holmes theory is super interesting although I don’t personally think it works.
It’s a good story but it’s pure fiction.
So glad you mentioned the huge differences in killer “type” between HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper.
Holmes has always been, to me, a conman who was willing to Go There. He didn’t seem to take any real pleasure in killing, and his methods are *noticeably, obviously* extremely hands-off. Poison gas, starvation, suffocation. He wanted their money and killing them was a nasty but necessary chore for him.
Jack the Ripper is clearly killing for the pleasure of killing, to act out his fantasies. He is slowly mutilating women because, well, he fucking hates women and gets satisfaction out of torturing and killing them. He’s not robbing them or making them sign over their titles and deeds to him, his motive is 100% just to kill for pleasure and no other benefit.
Anyone who knows even a little bit about true crime will know that Jack and Holmes fall under two psychologically distinct categories and they generally don’t tend to mix. All the people who support this theory provide as evidence is coincidental timing and the evidence against it, evidence created out of current-day forensic psychology knowledge, is monumental.
It just makes me roll my eyes every time I hear it. It’s like the difference between Jeffrey fucking Dahmer and Clyde Barrow.
That was a loong one.
Jack must have found it very cathartic. You're right about the two different types of serial killer.
Then why did Holmes build his murder house? The thing had every kind of psychological torture you could think of - HB even mentions it in the video; doors that open to brick walls, endless mazes of corridors, bank vaults to suffocate or starve the occupant. If Holmes took no pleasure in the killinds, he would have just flooded every person's room with poison gas every time he killed someone. This comment is ill-informed.
@@aschles503 i entirely agree. Including his pre murder house murders. He clearly just loved murdering and had an obvious obsession with human a-t-on my. Very ill informed comment.
@@aschles503 he was also brazen as hell with his murders. Leaving a murdered child’s toys out on the floor while showing potential renters the room? His life outside the murder hotel is equally fascinating to me.
When this movie came out I was in the Kevin white detox centre in Liverpool i was trying to beat heroin addiction, anyway whilst there we were allowed to go to the cinema (after a week clean) and this is the movie they decided we were going to watch, well after only a week clean and quite a few scenes with lots of opium myself and a few others felt like we were climbing the walls, if I remember rightly 2 people quit detox the next day, I managed the 2 weeks with difficulty. I found the film entertaining years later but at the time it wasn't a good film to watch while trying to get clean.
1:07 oh shit, Bilbo finally took back the ring
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Hey Nick! I'm a new subscriber. Thank you for such an insightful, informative and entertaining video. You don't know how long I've waited for someone to praise the 1988 Jack the Ripper Miniseries. I use to be an avid Ripperologist and could spend hours pondering who it could've been. I was so appalled at the movie "From Hell" and how it portrayed Inspector Abberline as well as Mary Jane (aka Marie Jeanette) Kelly and Sir Charles Warren. I was so pissed off that I gave the DVD away to someone I barely knew. The casting of that movie was so off and yeah, if Inspector Abberline had a haircut similar to Johnny Depp, he would've been called quite a few names that had you mentioned them, would've caused UA-cam Cops to pull the video.
To be fair; Alan Moore hates all adaptations of his work lol.
Alan Moore hates everything
Not so much that he refuses to cash the checks he's given. He has the right to say no, but he never does.
I think he hates this with good reason though. This movie is not only inaccurate historically, but the characterization of the main character isn't even faithful to the source material. Also, it's a seriously boring movie.
@@trustypatches4042 I mean he did like JLU's take on "For the Man Who Has Everything"
@@kyleshea384 fair point
@@troodon1096 actually he doesn't accept any income from his movies. He had thrown millions of worth of royalties away.
Oh please please please review Enemy at the Gate! It’s criminally underrated, and I think it’s just amazing!
it fucking sucks
This is easily my favourite Jack the Ripper adaptation and an amazingly atmospheric film to boot, I love this film and have watched it probably half a dozen times now.
Thanks very much, Nick Hodges. I jjust added your channel to my watch list.
Loved that Malcom McDowell speech from Halloween. It fits here perfectly.
It's been so long since I saw that version of "Halloween" that I didn't make the connection until reading your post. I just thought he had done a Jack the Ripper movie too and it was from that. :)
@@LibraGamesUnlimited He actually did at least two movies that involved "jack the ripper". The great film "Time after Time" and "Love Lies Bleeding"(which i didnt see). In Time after Time he plays H.G. Wells who goes after the Ripper and i believe he even has a similar monologue to the one from "Halloween"
@@janhelfers9068 I'm well acquainted with "Time after Time", I've seen it many, many times and love it. The other one I haven't seen but what's really funny was that he was also in an episode of the new "Outer Limits" about Jack the Ripper (in this case an alien that possesses people and when it leaves the body it rips them open, thus making people think there was a serial killer running around killing prostitutes). In that one, he was Inspector Lestrade (I think that was his name, the one who was investigating the murders).
Just read the graphic novel. Its the most thoroughly researched work of historical fiction I've ever read. Plus, it's amazing.
Yeah I think one thing this video doesn't emphasise enough is how good the graphic novel is. Yes the underlying masonic conspiracy theory has to be taken as a dramatic conceit, but other than that the historical attention to detail is amazing.
Well-researched? It's utter bullshit. Some dude kills five hookers to conceal the illegal marriage of the Queen's grandson??
@G Money Well, for starters, crooks aren't Hannibal Lecter. Guys who slash prostitutes apart do not suddenly wake up in their blameless lives one day and start butchering women. They start out small. They do not tend to be philosophers or intellectuals or artists. They tend to have long records before they reach murder. They do not get noticed for a long time because they pick women who society hates, they start out gradually, and they blend in with their potential victims. Cops refer to such women as "NHI."
The hype about the Ripper is all because he wasn't caught. He gets fetishized. The cops fucked up the case. The physical evidence has long since been lost. Speculation about royalty or Montague Druitt is idiotic because it's not even circumstantial, it's just ....."Hey, this guy existed at the same time and the same city and did.....something."
The letters "from" Jack the Ripper were probably written by journalists trying to sell papers-----with one exception. That is the "From Hell," letter which contained part of a kidney. The handwriting, spelling, and syntax of the writer indicated a poorly-educated and not that bright individual---just the sort of person who would pass unnoticed in the decrepit, teeming, filthy East End.
A final note on conspiracies: there are NO elaborate conspiracies involving murders by powerful men----especially not royals. The only successful conspiracies are the ones that contain just one member. Prince Albert Victor was not even in London at the time of the murders. Also? Why murder when he could buy anybody off? The idea that he met, impregnated, and married an East End prostitute is ludicrous on its face. How would they even meet? Why would the future king marry a girl he could buy off? And as for "love" the upper classes---especially royalty----married for business and had affairs afterward----after there were heirs.
In any case, "research" refers to facts, and there is no research that proves---or even hints----that any of the fantasies in "From Hell" are anything BUT fiction.
G Money cringe.
@@ginmarie6884 it was well researched in so far as it's detail about Victorian life, London folk lore, the history of subsequent serial killers and the many theories about the Ripper’s identity.
Fantastic! Education, enlightenment, & entertainment in one video. Bravo sir 👏
This was so well done! Thank you so much! Subbed 🤗
Awesome pick for an episode. I’d still really like to see The Messenger:The Story Of Joan Of Arc get an episode sometime .
Still super interested in seeing you review The Other Boleyn Girl!
Just going through all ur videos watching, and I just can’t help but appreciate and admire the passion you have for this, your enthusiasm and animated personality makes it seem like we’re listening to a friend. I know you can’t do it forever but u hope you don’t stop anytime soon haha.
Just found your channel--thanks for providing it. I personally love the film From Hell, simply because it's gorgeous and I love what they did with the time period. Of course, it's not an accurate look at the real Jack the Ripper case, but I don't mind that simply because I see it more as an art piece. But thanks for the info on the 1998 mini-series. I've ordered it so I can further my obsession with serial killer cases.
the story was used brilliantly by the Sherlock Holmes film Murder by Decree.(1979)
"do you know who I am?"
"You only come out at night, you can leap incredible heights and leangths, and know to much about anatomy to be a commoner."
"Say it!"
"You are Jack the Ripper!"
oooooh damn
I have been sleeping on this channel.
I watched the Tombstone video the Braveheart and now From Hell.
This is solid content.
Thanks for posting
First of all, I just found your channel and as a history buff myself, I absolutely adore your videos and have been practically binging them for the last few days. I would like to suggest though that while H.H. Holmes did indeed profit from his horrific deeds, it seems to be more than that given the effort he went to in constructing what would come to be known as the "Murder Castle." Holmes is truly an enigma to me and one of my "favorite" serial killers. (I do not condone/approve of his actions, obviously.) Because he went from basically insurance fraud to sadistic and elaborate murder schemes. As you said, he constructed a hotel that hid horrific means to end certain guests, namely independent females who had come to Chicago in search of work. In the 1890s, it was nearly impossible to figure out of a traveling loved one either disappeared into their work or was murdered. Given his hotel's furnace that he claimed was for "glass-blowing demonstrations," it is also impossible to truly track down how many victims he actually acquired. He was caught in Texas and sentenced for around 20-23 murders and hung for it. However, given the crematorium he had installed as well as various other evidence like a massive amount of luggage and personal effects later found, it has been estimated his kill count could have easily reached 200. And going back to his methods, these victims died often in front of Holmes' very eyes since he had many of the rooms fitted with peepholes so he could watch the poor souls inside die at whatever method he had devised for that room. I do not think Holmes was Jack the Ripper nor do I think their motives were the same but Holmes was indeed far more than a conman who had a disregard for human life. He was a twisted sadist who had the potential to construct means of horrific death for many people. I cannot wait for the movie (which I think was recently announced to being turned into a mini-series but with Scorcese and DiCaprio still involved.) I do not intend for this to be any sort of malicious or negative comment. I am just fascinated by Holmes' journey from what appeared to be a conman into a nefarious and terrifying villain...who was then caught because he tried to steal a horse in Texas...just an interesting/puzzling fiend all around lol. Again, love the channel and every video you put out. Much love, Lisa.
The graphic novel is ace as well, you should check it out. Alan Moore is a genius.
Do Hacksaw Ridge please!!
Sgt York is better
Gay
The theory was also used in a Sherlock Holmes movie starring Christophe Plummer - Murder By Decree
This is hands down one of my favorite movies
I found this chanel two days ago and have been binge watching. I freaking love it. I love the historical perspective, the deep dive into the history, and the analysis of the movie from a historians point of view. You actually convinced me to watch The Death of Stalin. Thank you!!!
Wow, I just played witcher 3, and the quest carnal sins is really an retelling of this story, just more brutal.
And with a vampire
Try search up Powerwolf - cardinel sin and lisen. ;)
Exactly what I thought too watching the video, So did the ripper have the same reason for killing them?
Thanks so much for the videos.
Firstly thank you for your History Buff channel, and you are totally correct about this movie, I went on a ripper tour, a lot of years ago, the tour guide was an ex scotland yard detective, and had written a book on the murders, He explained how the prostitutes lived, and it was in filthy squalor, so the portrayal of Mary Kelly was ridiculous.
Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Peter Conlon
Nice use of Malcom McDowell's speech from Halloween (2007)
I was about to say. Was that Malcom's voice in there?
@@amkrause2004 it was
Jack The Ripper has always been a fascinating case. Unsolved crimes are always a point of interest to me because I am naturally very curious. I need to have answers. I'm usually very good at solving cases when presented with the evidence. This is a particularly difficult case as it is a serial murder. In this case, there isn't too much linking the victims other than proximity and occupation. A proper interview with their friends may have provided better clues as to possible suspects, but I believe the problem with this case was the investigators jumping to conclusions about their suspect before having enough sufficient evidence. They fit the facts to their theories instead of the other way around.
I'll share with you a quote I read on one person's likely suspect. If this stuff fascinates it might be worth looking into.
"In all the long story of Jack, when he was out doing his nightly work, only one person, a woman, wrote an actual letter, published in the London Times, offering an *explanation* for the Ripper's work, arguing that he was trying to send a message, that maybe people should listen to that message. It was as close as anyone's ever come to an actual *defense* of what he was doing.
Note the woman's name, and who her husband was...a man who was twice interviewed by Scotland Yard, and interviewed by many Church officials, the transcripts of which have been *sealed* by the Church ever since, at the request of the family...a person who was the last man to see at least one of the victims alive...and who was a direct blood relative of the man who was living with the final victim (who was killed indoors, leading to the speculation that she knew her assailant)...who suffered a breakdown just before the murders began, was obsessed with cleaning up the Whitechapel area, and after whose sudden, hasty transfer, the murders stopped...and whose profession is tied *directly* to the only thing the Ripper was overheard to say to one of his victims."
There is one connection - The fourth victim, Catherine Eddowes, had been arrested for being drunk earlier in the day. She was allowed out (around 1.00am) and was murdered and found in Mitre Square (around 1,45am). The name Eddowes gave to the police was 'Mary Anne Kelly'.
That is why Knights main contention about the Royal conspiracy is that Mary Jane Kelly was always the real target!
Are you a Copper? They appear to be very poor at solving cases.
@@CareerKnight where is the quote from? I want to read more. Thank you for adding this.
@@CareerKnight This is a fascinating quote, but can you provide sources?
Loving all your videos, keep on keeping on !
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Great video! 👌
Clips from the PC game Ripper featuring Christopher Walken! One of my favorite games as a teen. Classic.
I must say, I immensely enjoyed From Hell, mainly because I realized while watching the closing credits that Mary Kelly (portrayed by Heather Graham) looks, sounds, and carries herself exactly like someone I met during my first year in college--Heather W., who was majoring in theatre arts, and who missed several weeks of classes because she was filming out of the country.
That’s an awesome story!!
Heather Graham studied English at UCLA, and didn’t film From Hell until she was 31. Her real surname is Graham so I’m not sure what the W would stand for?
Perhaps the Heather that I knew is not the same person, though it seems like a LOT of coincidences. Appearances can of course change a lot, though the way they carry themselves won'tnecessarily. The Heather i knew had red hair in about that style when she was about that age, a few years before the movie was made public (I don't recall ever knowing her exact age or whether she had ever studied elsewhere, though I do believe she had a strong interest in English since we had several classes together--including Creative Writing), her background in performance arts, and other little things matched. I believe Heather Graham was already a known actor by the timeI left that school, though I don't recall seeing her in anything before From Hell. First time I saw it (I was working at a theater at the time) I noted how much the character looks like "Whatshername from a few years ago"--I had saved something she had written for a school publication so I promised myself to check her name when I got home, and paid special attention to the credits, though I was sure the names wouldn't match. Last name was different--married name? Stage name? Adopted name? I didn't know her all that well, so my answers would be a wild guess, and it's entirely possible that they're two different people with uncanny similarities.
@@seanfitzgerald8575, none of that necessarily rules out the Heather that I knew. Scottish & Irish background, she's a few years older than me (at the time we met I was 18, and she was probably not yet 25), I believe she was already an established actor, and since that school's focus is theater and comm arts they had several established actors as students, and were quite ok with students taking time off for roles. I never met or hear Michelle about her family, though for several months she was in the UK for a role, and From Hell was released an appropriate amount of time after she got back (I'm a but familiar with the amount of post production work that can be involved) . This is all circumstantial evidence, though none of the facts you just stated contradict what I know, and much of it mayches.
Nick, have you ever thought of reviewing Ripper Street?
Just wanted to throw that into the ring. Love your videos and I appreciate how you set the record straight!
Thank you... I shall now watch the mini series
One of the most chilling things about the real historical event were photos taken of the victims; and especially the one of Mary Kelly's body at the crime scene. It's so barbaric it's hard to believe it's real.
Absolutely horrific. I still see it in my mind when I don’t want to.
Could you do "The seige of jadotville" next?
I remember as a teenager taking a jack the ripper tour. Interesting to see the area
Please read the Five.
They didn’t know each other, they were not all prostitutes. They were individual women caught up in the issues and troubles of the times.
It made me look at the the murders, and as a consequence the perpetrator, in a whole new light.