2024 Super Trainers TIER LIST

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024
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  • @TheSkyRiD3r
    @TheSkyRiD3r Місяць тому +12

    My favorite shoes of this year and my current rotation:
    Daily run: SB2
    Long run: SB2
    Tempo: SB2
    Intervals: SB2
    Easy/recovery: SB2
    Race day: not really a racer (SB2 for a parkrun) 😂

    • @macewindex564
      @macewindex564 Місяць тому

      nah, most overrated shoe this year. it's good for long runs and tempo, but there's much faster shoes out there

    • @arturhuh
      @arturhuh 29 днів тому

      have you tried other shoes? if so which ones did you like?

    • @tadejdanev5030
      @tadejdanev5030 29 днів тому +2

      dude you should marry SB2 :P

    • @stephenwouw8624
      @stephenwouw8624 26 днів тому

      @@macewindex564 like?

    • @stephenwouw8624
      @stephenwouw8624 26 днів тому

      Yeah but one problem with that, I have the SB2 Paris, and I want to preserve it as much as possible plus I tend to go too fast on the SB2, so I'm exploring other options especially for easy runs and recovery runs. New Balance trainer V4 is one of the options I'm considering or maybe just the Nimbus 26 or the Novablast 5 but that might be too similar to the SB2.
      I suppose I need a shoe where my feet literally sinks in and any effort will be absorbed by the foam.

  • @SlobberyPantsu
    @SlobberyPantsu Місяць тому +2

    Appreciate the videos. I work in a store that sells a lot of these, and I use your videos to give info out to potential buyers, as I don’t get the chance to test them all out.
    Keep up the good work

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the nice comment!!

  • @Titchygammon
    @Titchygammon Місяць тому +5

    My favourite shoes I’ve tried this year are (and my current rotation):
    Tempo/daily - SB2
    Daily/recovery - Brooks GM
    Intervals/short races - Takumi10
    Race - AF3
    Trail - Ultrafly

    • @ArvLie123
      @ArvLie123 15 днів тому +1

      Gm bring glycerin max or ghost max?

  • @afterschoolboy
    @afterschoolboy Місяць тому +3

    Your tier lists are awesome!
    Going to get my Rebel v4 soon

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 Місяць тому +5

    Mach 6, Rebel V4, Pegasus plus are 100% daily trainers and yes, Mach 6 is God tier daily trainer.
    Saucony Speed 4 is a home run if not God tier. It’s more versatile than the Superblast since the foam in SB isn’t soft at all with only moderate energy return.
    Puma Deviate Nitro 3 wasn’t mentioned as it is the most underrated shoe of the year. Tom from believe in her run would agree with me. A home run for me.
    Kinvara Pro is the most misunderstood performance trainer for two reasons: weight and the outsole. If Saucony fixes these two issues it can be the performance or super trainers of the decade.

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      I really appreciate your thorough comment! Thank you!!

  • @olli-perttikojo4424
    @olli-perttikojo4424 Місяць тому +2

    One can still find Puma Deviate 2 for 100e. For me, beats the Superblast. That firmer heel, soft forefoot and semi flexible plate feels GREAT at steady runs. Treshold or slow is good too. A very satisfying, characterful, wired shoe. And ahh, that outsole can do even snow, man! It is my only God Tier. Upper a bit tight and warm, tough. I rarely go up ½ size, here i do.

  • @NashFishingChannel
    @NashFishingChannel День тому

    Agree with you about the boston. Really nice shoes. Will get the NB rebel v4 soon.

  • @melvillemutuc3790
    @melvillemutuc3790 Місяць тому +4

    Agree, except for the Endorphin Speed 4. Should be at least belongs to home run.

  • @liamhockey9189
    @liamhockey9189 Місяць тому +4

    I have mach 6 and now mach x2 love them both

  • @muhamadirfaan3329
    @muhamadirfaan3329 29 днів тому +1

    I wanted the SB2 cause my boston 12 was at a high mileage. But the SB2 was not available in my country. I even wanted to try the SC trainer V3 but it didnt have my size. So i ended getting another boston 12 and i still loved it. Still to this day, its the most enjoyable and fun running shoe i ever had.

  • @NicolasVERMANDE
    @NicolasVERMANDE Місяць тому +3

    Great list Alex, how about the mizuno neo vista? It really deserves a place here no?Very fun and original, bouncy and comfy, I'd compare it to the Superblast 2 with a bit less top-end speed maybe, but great for steady/MP long run. But definitely a hit that stands out this year.

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      It could fit here but we decided to put it in the daily trainer tier list published a while ago. Hope this makes sense !

  • @glennorencia9317
    @glennorencia9317 Місяць тому +3

    I hope this tier list will be updated with recent/future releases like the Nike Zoom Fly 6 and Adidas Evo SL 😁

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      It’s been recorded before these releases but yes it will be updated!

  • @tjjames2520
    @tjjames2520 Місяць тому +2

    Nice list...I think it's very accurate for the shoes that I have and tried.

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you!! It’s very personal but I’m happy if other runners can relate

  • @Alex-xv5gz
    @Alex-xv5gz 26 днів тому

    Oh man, I love the Kinvara Pro. Definitely in my top 3 favorite shoes of all time. So smooth and perfect for steady long runs 💯

  • @harry1583
    @harry1583 13 днів тому

    I have the home run rotation.
    Daily trainer: Rebel 4
    Speed: Deviate nitro 2
    Long run/ Tempo: Boston 12
    Boston 12 is my go to if I only need 1 to bring pair to do everything. I just cant do long runs on my DN2.

  • @OrdMandrell1
    @OrdMandrell1 Місяць тому +9

    How do you have the ZoomFly 5 and not the ZoomFly 6? You just reviewed the shoe! Did you film this before the review?

    • @timalvado-brette7281
      @timalvado-brette7281 Місяць тому +2

      I think so, it was probably filmed before

    • @Eirikkinserdal
      @Eirikkinserdal Місяць тому +2

      Maybe it's so late in the year that it is a 2025 shoe. Along with adizero evo sl

    • @TasosHadji
      @TasosHadji Місяць тому

      Indeed! Same question I had too… I was waiting the Fly 6 on this list!

  • @sercancuhadar
    @sercancuhadar Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for your precious reviews. IMO you should add longevity of the shoes as we'll. As mere mortals we pay!. It's an important issue for lots of us.
    My first boston12 is at 1100km and still very very runnable.
    Non plated zoomx shoes only stand 250km for me.

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the very useful comment and suggestion!

  • @wojtekbe
    @wojtekbe Місяць тому +1

    Good job Alex🙂

  • @ItsJakeTheBrake
    @ItsJakeTheBrake Місяць тому

    Nice to see the KD900 included. I use it along with the Boston 12 and love them both. Would rather do long runs in the Boston, but for everything else, the KD is up there with the Boston.
    One thing people need to know is that the KD needs quite a few km (probably around 200) to soften up. I have close to 300km in mine and the outsole looks brand new. I suspect that Kiprun will have released the KD900.3 by the time my OG KD900 have worn out.

  • @ChrisC-bk6nd
    @ChrisC-bk6nd Місяць тому +1

    There is a shoe that is supposed to be a race day, but is to heavy, a shoe that costs to much to be in trainer category. But i would like to try the Superblast 2 against the the Ceilo X1 as a super trainer. Which tier do you think that would fit into?

  • @jacobkluckhohn5153
    @jacobkluckhohn5153 Місяць тому +4

    Mach 6 would be awesome but its sooooo narrow in the midfoot, I work at a running store and genuinely cant think of many that feel narrower

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 12 днів тому

      Could get it from Hoka in a Wide.

    • @dougchilstrom
      @dougchilstrom 6 днів тому

      Absolutely right about that. I have a somewhat wide foot and the Mach 6 tried to destroy it! Good for people with narrower feet.

  • @thomasbraun6603
    @thomasbraun6603 Місяць тому +4

    How would you rank the Zoom Fly 6?

  • @laszlokovacs8937
    @laszlokovacs8937 Місяць тому

    absolutely agree with you, Alex!... cool list

  • @Dedemahotama31
    @Dedemahotama31 Місяць тому +8

    What about Mizuno Neo Vista?

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      Good question: it’s in the daily trainer tier list but could have been here too

  • @dragonslayer5865
    @dragonslayer5865 Місяць тому +1

    Do you think that for runners less then 50 kg the rebel v4 is better?

  • @dwipayanali
    @dwipayanali 28 днів тому

    You should update the list with Zoomfly 6. Where do you think the shoe will be on the list?

  • @meny952ify
    @meny952ify Місяць тому +1

    Hi Alex! Is there much difference between the mach X and the mach x2?

    • @henya2409
      @henya2409 Місяць тому +2

      A lot. Mach X is an ok shoe, Alex would probably call it runnable. Mach X2 is superb, except for the heel tab, which might hurt you.

  • @TheUsername1302
    @TheUsername1302 28 днів тому

    What raceday shoe would you pair the mach x2 with?

  • @johndoeatr
    @johndoeatr Місяць тому +2

    I believe that the meaning of super trainers is something else.
    Most of the shoes of this video are fast or tempo shoes.
    Super trainers is the democratization of racing technology. Super foams, stiffing element (or not) 45mm at least in the heel and a little bit of comfort.
    For me, the real super trainers are: Asics Superblast 2, Hoka Skyward X, New Balance SC Trainer (the first edition, now is just a trainer), Mizuno Neo Vista.

    • @RowOfMushyTiT
      @RowOfMushyTiT Місяць тому

      Ye Mach 6 and Rebel V4 and some other don't belong here.

    • @timalvado-brette7281
      @timalvado-brette7281 Місяць тому +1

      @@RowOfMushyTiT where will you put them? I agree it's a bit different than a Superblast but you can do nearly everything with them like the Superblast do. Also if you put them in a daily trainer tier list you will compare them with shoes that are also so different (e.g. Brooks Ghost 16, Nike Pegasus, NB 1080 v14)

    • @johndoeatr
      @johndoeatr Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@timalvado-brette7281 most of the shoes are fast/uptempo shoes, is a category that always exist.
      Also the categorization of the shoes is made for the average runner.
      Someone more experienced runner can have as daily trainer a Endorphin Speed or a Rebel or a Mach, but for the average runner most of those shoes are speed shoes.
      I believe that the title of the video is clickbait.
      If you remove from the list, the Superblast, the Strung X 2, the Kinvara Pro and the Zoom Fly 5 is just a uptempo tier list.

    • @RowOfMushyTiT
      @RowOfMushyTiT Місяць тому +1

      @@timalvado-brette7281 The key thing with Supertrainer is that it looks after your legs and you can have a max stack with a plate like a race shoe, but heavier, cheaper and more durable. Mach 6, Rebel v4, Pegasus Plus are all tempo shoes.

    • @timalvado-brette7281
      @timalvado-brette7281 Місяць тому +1

      @@RowOfMushyTiT Alex explained at the beginning his definition of a super trainer. For him it's a shoe designed to 'maintain a faster pace" which would also be the definition of a fast/uptempo shoe. Nevertheless, for most of the shoes of this list I tried (Mach 6 / Boston 12 / Prime X / Deviate 3 / Rebel v4 / CM Hyper), I feel comfortable doing endurance or easy runs in them, and find it reductive to categorize them solely as fast/uptempo shoes.

  • @wrunnerh
    @wrunnerh Місяць тому +2

    Can you use Vaporfly for speed sessions

  • @afurmuzan
    @afurmuzan 6 днів тому

    Why does everyone dislike the Zoom Fly 5? I recently got a pair and I like it so far. Much better fit than other shoes from Nike.

  • @tadejdanev5030
    @tadejdanev5030 29 днів тому

    adidas Adizero Adios Pro 3 199,99€ worth it?

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088 Місяць тому

    Great review 🎉🎉🎉

  • @kaishunider4110
    @kaishunider4110 Місяць тому +2

    Does Adidas Adizero Evo SL make it to the god tier list?

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +2

      One of the first two tiers, give me a bit of time to decide which! I’ll update this video

    • @kaishunider4110
      @kaishunider4110 Місяць тому

      @ Thank you :)

  • @minkspronk1527
    @minkspronk1527 Місяць тому +4

    Not a bad list, but putting two Hokas at the top? Hokas are known for their terrible durability... I can only put around 600 k on a pair of Hokas, but can put like 1200k on my pair of Bostons. Bostons are maybe not as flashy, but if can use them twice as long and the performance is still great, maybe keep that in mind as well?

    • @mtimbroims
      @mtimbroims Місяць тому +1

      At 600k get new shoes. Foam is dead at that point regardless of how much you want to tell yourself that it’s not.

    • @huzcer
      @huzcer Місяць тому +6

      Shoe reviewers don't really know anything about durability as they are not running high mileage in all the shoes. So they basically can't tell you that. And I fully agree it's a big factor for people actually buying the shoes instead of getting many of them for free!

    • @henya2409
      @henya2409 Місяць тому +1

      600 k is totally fine for any shoe I believe. Only the Adios Pro 3 can last longer than that :)

    • @rosslogan4154
      @rosslogan4154 23 дні тому

      Many people still get enough bounce in their shoes to around 500miles/800km.​@mtimbroims

  • @thewalls7770
    @thewalls7770 Місяць тому +4

    Hoka shoes have become way too narrow for me.

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      They have wide options too. But I see you point

  • @reeceanderson9293
    @reeceanderson9293 Місяць тому +2

    No mizuno neo vista????

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      It’s in the daily trainer tier list video (could be here too, true!)

  • @emkama9402
    @emkama9402 Місяць тому +1

    Where would you put the tyr valkyrie speedworks?

  • @RonnyC98
    @RonnyC98 Місяць тому +1

    Wait so you’re saying my strategy of using alphafly for all my runs is invalid?

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому

      Valid but not optimal maybe 😉

  • @Casey_Atkinson
    @Casey_Atkinson Місяць тому

    Where would you put the new adidas evo sl??

  • @willineufeld7162
    @willineufeld7162 Місяць тому +1

    What about Nike zoom fly 6?

  • @thiagopiresleite
    @thiagopiresleite 29 днів тому +1

    Mizuno neo vista?

  • @mheelilahouse
    @mheelilahouse 27 днів тому

    Why you put Mach6 Rebelv4 in this list, but SkywardX in daily trainer list

  • @nawainrukydnew
    @nawainrukydnew 29 днів тому

    How about Saucony Endorphin Pro 4?

  • @Rafe63
    @Rafe63 Місяць тому +1

    wow Alex... we're you shadow banned? I didn't see you on my timeline for months!

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому

      Maybe! You never know what’s going on behind the scenes 😂 but never left, and not planning to 😉

  • @Mumrik597
    @Mumrik597 Місяць тому

    Didn't get along too well with the Endorphin speed 4 either. My heels gets destroyed by them.

  • @dragonslayer5865
    @dragonslayer5865 Місяць тому

    And the ego sl?

  • @zoink215
    @zoink215 29 днів тому

    The rebels are good but get flat after like 50 or more miles something for the elites im a heavy runner so maybe it's me lol

  • @row33
    @row33 Місяць тому +13

    Adios Pro 3 is the best "super trainer".

    • @pbnotj1
      @pbnotj1 Місяць тому

      If can get it on deep enough discount

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +2

      It’s in the race day shoe tier list video but I see your point yes

    • @tkwasik
      @tkwasik 29 днів тому +2

      Yes adi pro 3 with its durability make whole super trainer category obsolete

    • @berry5954
      @berry5954 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@AlexFilitti Adios Pro 3 is the fastest trail running shoe I have.
      It definitely isn't just a race day shoe, it is super versatile. I'd just not race in it.

    • @NashFishingChannel
      @NashFishingChannel 19 годин тому

      Adios pro 3 is super shoes. Its for race day. Not a super trainer

  • @WildDoggos
    @WildDoggos 29 днів тому

    i agree that the mach 6 and rebel v4 shouldn't be on this list. they are more related to the likes of novablast, adios 8 and sl2

  • @ElectricOnion
    @ElectricOnion 29 днів тому

    Should've waited to run in the new Nike Zoom Fly 6

  • @Robzabest25
    @Robzabest25 29 днів тому +1

    invisinclble run 3>?

    • @NashFishingChannel
      @NashFishingChannel 19 годин тому

      Its a comfy shoes and a bit heavy. Plus many people complain about the durability

  • @Trailrunner1978
    @Trailrunner1978 Місяць тому

    Godtier: Endorphine Speed 1 (much better than the 4) and Takumi Sen 8.

  • @trenthenderson2074
    @trenthenderson2074 Місяць тому +1

    I love these tier lists 🤣

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! Do you find them useful or just entertaining ?

    • @trenthenderson2074
      @trenthenderson2074 Місяць тому +1

      @ I believe both! It’s good content for entertainment, and even though the full review has more detail this is a lot of comparison info and that’s also very helpful when planning shoe purchases.

  • @femaciel
    @femaciel Місяць тому +18

    Just call this category as "Performance Trainers" and it's done.. "Super" doesn't mean anything at all

    • @AlexFilitti
      @AlexFilitti  Місяць тому +7

      Not my expression but something people has started to use more and more. But I take your point. You don’t say « super shoes » then I suppose when it comes to race day shoes?

    • @femaciel
      @femaciel Місяць тому +2

      ​@@AlexFilitti"race shoe" is fine, meaning the intended purpose of design. But actually you can race in whatever shoes you feel comfortable with (:

    • @DingoDirk88
      @DingoDirk88 29 днів тому +4

      Weird thing to fixate on.

    • @frontierlandfrank5314
      @frontierlandfrank5314 28 днів тому +2

      @@femaciellmao you’re one of “those” 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @daniaaal
      @daniaaal 25 днів тому +2

      Im looking forward to the next issue of Performance Man by DC Comics

  • @tkwasik
    @tkwasik 29 днів тому +1

    Why do we need add adjective "super" or "max" to every shoe on the market now ????
    It is soooo annoying

  • @hyperrunning
    @hyperrunning 29 днів тому

    Spikes tier list please

  • @MedicineRunner
    @MedicineRunner 29 днів тому

    Your tier list is wrong bc the speed 4 isn’t God tier 🤬
    Besides that, it’s pretty good bruv

  • @sconnolly88
    @sconnolly88 Місяць тому +1

    Rebel is above SC Trainer. That's a YIKES. The Rebel is an uptempo daily trainer and is extremely squishy/unstable.

    • @MsPietpaaltjes
      @MsPietpaaltjes 28 днів тому

      You are crazy the rebel is superstable with a very wide base

  • @PHC24
    @PHC24 Місяць тому +1

    adizero evo sl ?

    • @Titchygammon
      @Titchygammon Місяць тому +2

      General release is 2025 for most places