The Great Minecraft Anti-P2W Server War (2014-2021)
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2021
- Minecraft has seen a variety of wars, especially speedrunning wars to see who can beat the game the fastest. But on the other side of the community, a more serious movement is brewing.
Music List: pastebin.com/4ySAFaLk - Ігри
video correction: the guy that spent $2500 didn't beat us, as he used an inefficient farm afaik. What made us leave were things they added slowly. Now the server is so dead it isn't even worth my time to dupe on.
lmfao
lol $2500, probably some stupid rich kid with no sense
children be like
Whats the ip?
Neat
“You can’t exchange in game currency for real money”
Microsoft: “I’m gonna pretend like I didn’t see that”
Hypixel skyblock: “I’m gonna pretend like I didn’t see that”
*EA
Minecoins?????
@@KARMA-gr4uh yeah kinda lol
Salad:
I forgot he uses text to speech, it’s so fitting.
SAMMEEE
its weird because when i watch another youtuber using the same text to speech it sounds different even tho its the same
@@Coldnoah fr, I forget that its not his actual voice lol
@@Coldnoah it sounds like IGoBy doesn't just put script in machine, and just plop it into the video, they actually took care for it, make it sound more soft, more fitting, and more human
I will forever know this voice as the giant Asian sticker voice
"skyblock isnt a competitive game"
That one dungeon sweat flexing his storm armor on my 1 hour old ironman profile: hold my beer
It’s pretty competitive, however i’m fine with cookies since you can’t really do much without grinding even with money.
@@femboytatp the thing is, cookies were needed to halt RWT a bit, every big mmo which isnt p2w has this, WoW, OSRS, etc, doesnt make them p2w
@@ultratronger Never said they did. Cookies are great and I have spent some money myself. I used to irl trade and got punished for it, i’m glad you can now do it legit without losing everything. Great way to combat it too
@@femboytatp it do make them rich kid got money easier,but hypixel make that you need to grind anyway so fuck that
@@Junistheog Obviously they make it so you have to grind too? That’s to make it less and less p2w from cookies, that’s how they designed it. LOL kid if you don’t want to grind then don’t even touch skyblock that’s not a game for ya
I’m perm banned on TreeMc, cause wrote EULA, in path blocks.
HAHAHAHA WHAT
I am perm banned for cheating in Hypixel about 6 years ago I believe.
@@Rathzul we all do mistakes
I got a 1 year mute on TreeMC for saying SalC1 but when I fly hacked in front of an admin, it was fine ._.
@@MrCreepsGaming43 lmao
THAT INTRO THOUGH
Ikr?!!?!
Ultimate zoom
Looked like jojo part 3 sono chi no kioku copyright free edition
Check out internet historian if you like this kind of hogh quality montages!! He s hilarious too
You mean internet historian
Nobody can ruin skyblock’s economy because it’s kinda garbage anyways
Nobody can really lag skyblock to make it unplayable because it already is
Better turn off shadows
the best laggers are the regular players who protest with jerry gun for no reason
Not to mention it’s not p2w
This comment rly hits different rn lol
@@dadafdadfasdf5557 ddosing and lagging out are different
Igblon is approaching internet historian levels of editing.
At this rate, he'll be a New Zealander by next week
Bri'ishfication needs to be a word now
IH is aussie
Internet Historian is actually from New Zealand.
@@oitthegroit1297 closer than the british
hey wait a minute I'm an new zealand what
Honestly, a class-action lawsuit against Minecraft for not enforcing their EULA, initiated by parents affected by those servers and by other people funded through crowdfunding, is much more likely to get Microsoft to enforce the EULA, than duping. But the movement needed to grow to this point for such a thing to be even remotely possible.
Not sure if you can sue for that, but Microsoft could also just remove the term for the EULA and allow it.
@@KevinLGlory and allow pay 2 win that’s disgusting if you are insinuating that.
@@scareditymays6yearsago477 Well, IF you could sue them for it, then it seems easier for them to just remove it from their EULA.
@@scareditymays6yearsago477 Of course it is, but it's also what a multimillion dollar company would do
1. Cracked minecraft server software with all hidden telemetry removed and their own skin server (now neither mojang nor microshit can even detect the server, you can stick it behind a VPN for additional lulz at making it harder to find the physical location of the server, there are VPN's who even if tortured, has precautions in place to wipe absolutely everything, and some of these providers also dgaf about criminal activity if you look hard enough, you will find them).
2. Cracked minecraft client with all hidden telemetry removed, and perhaps also malware and trojans added in to harvest data.
3. ????
4. PROFIT111!!!111oneleven
This is a stupid suggestion, it's better than this is done in the dark if the intention is to keep track of p2w servers. If you make them go dark, there's nothing you can do and you expose children to additional security risks as they won't think twice about downloading a cracked minecraft client to continue accessing their ill gotten gains.
There's a reason why Microshit does not make much fuss about it. The secret to nailing EULA violators is to be subtle about it. I'd bet there's plenty of big fishes who get nailed in secret and in closed courts.
It's also still a whiny topic, and notch with his massive big brain but absolutely shit social skills fucked it up hugely last time. It's better to aim for the big fish only and not bring the issue up. With only the occasional "make a example of them" outing by Mojang or Microsoft to remind people that the EULA is a thing.
I'd like to remind you also that parenting is still a thing (hopefully married unlike the feminist degenerate hellhole this earth is right now), I have zero sympathy and empathy for parents who's kid can just waltz up to their parents wallet, grab the card and just enter it's details. Proactive parenting is far better than reactive parenting and parents who plop their kids infront of a TV or computer willy nilly for longer periods of times deserves to be branded with a hot iron poker.
q&a here about the video I'll try to respond to as many as I can
Edit: Ok, so im gonna stop answering questions because there are too many of them and they lag google chrome to the point where I can't reply more, sorry! email me if u wanna ask anything else
are you hydrated
Are you p2w?
question:
why are you such a sussy little baka!!!!
Any servers you are planning on raiding?
opinions on skyblock?
for the people who are not into editing might not understand this but the amount of effort, green screens, and special effects and footage are insane, show him some love
normal video
but i agree on the footage
Oh i know. Seeing it from internet historian give me a realization
Great editing poor quality tho (not sure the right word)
But thats others opinion I like the unique editing style it fits with the channel
@@mikatututorials5909 you can see a lot of effort put in to it being poor quality.
14:38 "several issues are patched" *puts slice of pizza on a leaky pipe* LOL
Thats not a pizza...
@@Ziol. yes that's a pizza...
@@mistqr The material tho
@Mr Mrmot ima nas svuda
"IGoByLotsOfNames" more popularly known as the Internet historian of minecraft.
When he went 1:10
"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed nibh eros, posuere a aliquam ut, malesuada in lorem."
I felt that.
Lol
I actually learned that it’s latin filler language. So yeah, it’s just filler in latin, there’s like 30 paragraphs of it for stuff.
@@lobbinandprism Genuine question, do you know what it translates to?
@@antinverbose229 no, I just searched the words up online one day and that was the answer I got. Unfortunately I do not know latin. Thanks for asking though!
@@antinverbose229 it’s derived from an actual Latin text by Cicero (De finibus bonorum et malorum), but with things added, removed, and changed so that it effectively means nothing and is just garbage.
Please keep the first 10 seconds of the video
as a permanent intro. It's perfect.
100% agreed
Thank you for the mention of our server!
If you didn't know, we are the oldest server to be privately funded, and have never accepted donations from players.
what server is this?
@@cezar4211
Minr
@@cezar4211 a parkour server
Salc1 actually duped on Skittlemc, which is a ptw server, before he did TreeMC.
And he pointed out/duped on skittlemc because it was ptw
There's a dislike 2 minutes after uploading, the haters really have notifications on lmaooo
This guy just missclicked
@Biglyp they pay to get ratio'd by 8k+ ppl?
I brought up Mojang's EULA enforcement 3 years ago.. wow. (8:44)
I can guarantee you the P2W servers have not gone away and it's extremely disappointing that servers like my semi-vanilla server that does abide by the EULA can't get a leg up because of it. Thank you for bringing this to the attention of more people.
I'm glad more has been done in the most recent updates. Let's hope Mojang maintains it.
Yeah I agree, it's really dodgy. What is your server btw? I'd be curious to check it out
Can I try join your server?
Could i perhaps join the server?
I don't like P2W but also I don't care about the EULA or Microsoft. P2W is wrong because it's wrong not because Microsoft says so.
Notch: i hate p2w servers, they fuck my life.
Horizon, Sal C1 and the entire chad team: let me _fix_ this problem in the right way
Too bad Microsoft owns Mojang now
Did you guys know that Stormsurge is back and active atacking servers now, Avo's back baby!
to be honest I think Mojang should change the EULA to allow them to charge servers that did not comply (after blacklisting them of course). Who would make a p2w server if Mojang could just take all the money the players gave you and blacklist the server. Mojang could use that money to make Realms cheaper or make other Mojang-hosted server options with more flexibility than Realms which is exclusively vanilla on the latest update.
that wouldn't be possible since it's really easy to make a server and you can't force owners to pay up.
@@ishid_anfarded_king pretty much this. You’re rolling with international enforcement of shit and that just sorta doesn’t work a lot of the time
hello yes I am here from 25 minutes in the future and I can certifiably tell you that this video is a banger.
Thanks for the info
I’m 3 days ahead of you
Haha... Im 2 months ahead of you
@Konkus :D are you sure about that İ Am 37 munites ahead of you
@Konkus :D İm here for all week. Im 7 hours ahead of you my child
The astolfo body pillow in the intro was the greatest thing i have ever seen
Prediction: IGBLON talks about The Great Minecraft Anti-P2W Server War (2014-2021)
Omg I think you got it right
Q
_How_
You’re so smart
2014-2100
igblon just casually has astolfo body pillows, nice.
Best boy in every way ☺️
one of timeams friends here. Just wanted to say thank you to anyone who contributed to make this entire ordeal known. Our group, Sal, and the horizon and many others... thank you
>"Supremium"
I'm sorry but that actually pretty clever word-play.
I GO BY LOTS OF NAMES UPLOADED POG
Pog
Pog
What’s awesome is that Team AVO came out of retirement to make some anti-p2w griefing videos with SalC1.
I love the sorta documentary style on these videos, keep up the good work :)
Love the editing keep up the good work!
Thirty finished streaming and you uploaded life is good
Really good video! this guy is getting good at content making
Microsoft broke Minecrafts ToS :O
The rule: “no charging real-currency for in game currency”
Wait that’s illegal
Bedrock edition EULA different from Java, but I get it
@@BlightfulProductions its actually the same
Honestly the intro caught me by surprise, really good idea. It was low key beautiful, like my segue to my question. when will you make a "who spent the most real life money on skyblock" video
the astolfo body pillow lol
That’s actually a best body pillow
The best kind of pillow
These 2 replies are pog
Agreed, the best kinda pillows
Goated Body Pillow
It's totally acceptable to have paid products on a server, whole games functioning like that, like League of Legends for example, or Warface.
There is no harm in a server owner wanting to make a profit, after all, he needs money to pay the servers, and also his time and dedication, then being a server owner becomes a job.
It only starts to be bad when it gets abusive, the player is forced to put money in to have a chance at the game, or gain absurd advantages over those who don't pay.
This, is a very good comment.
Sometimes someone may say that if there is anything that need even a cent it is p2w, such as hypixel skyblock. This case is very much common as adressed in the video
Hypixel may have many ranks already so Some Kids Out there may say: HeY iSn'T hYPiXeL aLReaDY hAs mANy DoNaTioN wHY iT nEEd mORe?
Which to that we have these
*More staff, admin and helper
*Actually good server Hosting To house 1 Mil plugin
*Compensation for the time wasted
*Life Requirement like foods
Love the content, and the effort you put in
I think it would be nice if you made a video on the Anti-P2W raids that occured after this video came out. There aren't a lot, and I would like to see you analyze and investigate the short- and long-term effects of these raids on the servers. "Did nothing change?", "Did they shutdown?", "Did they remove P2W?", etc.
Fun fact the reason the colosseum was shut down is because of the booster cookies this is because the colosseum is PvP and PvP can’t happen while booster cookies are able to be purchased because they classify as an “unfair advantage”
Really? I thought it was because of the bugs with losing your coins if you died in it sometimes
@@maxe624 no that was super easily fixed I could even do it XD. they just f*cked the safe zone
Couldn’t they add in a feature where those booster cookies don’t work in the colosseum game mode?
@@Cooldude-ko7ps the problem is that you can get money from it and if you could pvp is would be p2w
This guy has quality content and forever will be good content
what a video man. I don't actually play minecraft that much and play it with my friends on our own server. But I can understand the p2w bs because of another game. It's really good that playerbase is revolting against such bs concept. Good luck. I subbed
18:29 That's an interesting insight. The lack of PvP and leaderboards being one big part in what makes P2W. I've never been a big fan of PVP and leaderboads. I've been a big fan of fast tracking getting building blocks to build stuff without having to mine, I've been very salty when those got flushed down the drain along with P2W
this man is becoming the internet historian of minecraft and I love it
I agree with you.
I do not enjoy ending servers, but when done righteously it is a chore like any other.
The time for talk has passed. The EULA's work must be done.
Well, it's causing chaos, and you don't feel like shit for ruining servers, so it's great
We cannot expect notch to do all the work.
Dude, you have such a great video editing style, I legitimately got myself laughing out loud at some of the visual gags featured (my favorite one being the car doing a full 180 turn).
The start gave me Internet Historian vibes. Great work
My happiness when igblon uploads: GAS GAS GAS
Beautiful intro especially with the astolfo body pillow
It’s good that you took notice to the reasons some people do this
Dude, your content is so great and idk why you don't have over 1 mil
Lmao, hypixel be like: Yea you can pay for in game advantages and buy items that can be immediately traded for ingame money but we dont care
@@smolmen7674 "it's easy to get anyway" yea no shit lmao I grab mommy's credit card buy 48 cookies and then get some of the best gear on the server.
"Oh b-but stats and levels" its 100x easier to level stats when you can buy 20 maxed minions, a gearset, and a pet to power level a skill for 3 weeks and make a net profit from the earnings even without reselling the minions when you're done.
@@smolmen7674 I'm not talking about a steady source of income shitnuts, I'm talking about how a new player can skip a month or more of progression by just buying items with IRL money to sell, and the fact that players are told to do so by high level players if they ask in the hub/lobby
By this logic, 2b2t is p2w.
@@sumguy8939 queue skip isnt the same as literally paying real life money for in game currency
@UCxz_1hIbRhCcdFeWHWbrq7g on 2bt2 it is player to player trading, on hypixel you literally pay on the server shop for items to immediately flip for in game currency.
the one dislike is thedupertrooper
That wouldn’t make sense though? He is just informing people of the “war” and isn’t bias, he just said what people are fighting against pay to win servers and never said anything bad about them
Amazing how people who live most likely on the other side of the continent have came together to defeat those kind of servers from game makers to random people all fighting for one goal defeating pay to win it seems like the pay to win numbers have dropped but are still there even in this year maybe make a part two or revamp to this documentary
the intro of this is so clean, deserves a like
I have never even played multiplayer, and this part of Minecraft’s current history is so fascinating that I put up with a T2S voice for 25 minutes just to learn more about it.
I remember how a server I used to play on handled the EULA issues. Instead of directly allowing the purchase of items, they allowed people to buy cosmetic crate keys. Gave no advantage. Purely cosmetic. Of course you could exchange those keys for ingame points. Those points could then be used to purchase items.
They switched from “ranks” to “titles”. I think, or something similar. I think this was just to avoid the aspect of a increasing level of superiority (from the outside). It was the same thing, just that they phrased it as people “donating” and as a “token of gratitude” there were items given.
The owners then took an even worse approach. They had donation tiers with almost nothing on the surface to show for - except monthly discord calls. Some of these tiers had people donating hundreds of dollars a month. The issue was the ulterior motive behind donating. Now if someone is donating hundreds a month, you’d want to keep them happy and around to continue their donations. That’s the problem right there. The more people donated, the more leeway they got with the admins. Ban reversals, claims getting transferred, OP items given out, looking the other way when players were duping those OP items (to then sell for IRL $), etc. Players became untouchable.
Safe to say the server went to downhill. The owners went from pulling in millions of views (and plenty of Ad revenue) a month to barely a 100k views.
you always good at ilustrating everything you said,keep it up 😅👍
Holy shit my comment is in a video! Thank you so much for using it, that just made my day.
IGBLON: P2W can get away with this
Hackers: oh i dont think so
“Mojang has been doing a little trolling on their own”
Return of the king
Loving the Seattle kraken stadium background
this gives me huge internet historian vibes and i love it.
When I saw the horizon pop up I was like oh HELL YEAAAHHHH
Best MC documentary ever
The beginning transition is so smooth for no reason lol
in my opinion duper trooper is the type of guy whos not in the movement for the actual reason but instead to make money and do what he wants to do
I disagree, I'm part of his discord and seen some of his streams and he's a cool guy.
@@thatqwertypi8517 1. he targetted hypixel skyblock just to get views and it skyblock doesnt even fall under the movements p2w explaination
2. he did it for views not the movement
3. both of his skyblock videos were sponsored
Anti P2W is great and should be a thing for all servers
Those stock photos will be so nostalgic 20 years later
I’m loving this war vs p2w Minecraft side of UA-cam so much
22:10 this would be a good time for Mojang to make a move; they can be confident now that they won’t lose their full playerbase by cracking down on p2w, since many of the players are already acting on it themselves.
I think it's a good thing that the players are fighting back against these paid to win servers when what the paid to win servers are doing is arguably illegal and absolutely immoral.
I love your video format
I was on autoplay and I literally thought this video was made by internet historian based on the intro. Amazing work.
When most servers have everything in a lootbox behind a payed or vote crate. I miss when economy servers where fun
That intro was smoother than a smoothie
Ooh more Minecraft documentaries!
I remember seeing one of The Horizon's videos on them crashing a p2w server and some of the comments had threads: Those who called them heroes had comment threads calling them horrible people since they played on those servers since they played next to their lag machines.
FitMC is the ultimate troll and everyone loves him. He is a cool dude.
Im glad that you mentioned the P2W movement not being perfect, at some point. Horizon raided a server which was barely even pay to win (it was a semi way to win) and that got me really upset. Because that used to be a server i really liked. People raided the server for irrational reasons and Horizon took no responsabilitty for what he did to a innocent server (it isnt even pay to win anymore, as if it was pay to win to begin with). Anyways I am still somewhat mad at what he did when this is brought up, while i dont support p2w. I dont support the way anti p2w took this either.
I never liked massive servers, I've always preferred finding smaller servers with actual communities of people that play together.
The most fun I had in minecraft was hosting a server for a really slow board on 4chan, and the funniest thing is, the community that cropped up there was actually one of the most enjoyable communities I've had the pleasure to be a part of, we didn't even need anti-grief plugins for the longest time and I'm pretty sure to this day I've never had to ban anyone.
I never made any money off it, but I sure as hell made a lot of memories.
Ooh, Astolfo, you're a man of culture as I can see
11:36 Actually, the first video on Sal's channel about duping on a P2W server was SkittleMC in dec 6, 2018. Probably a worse example tho cause it was a bit earlier than the timeframe i assume you wanted
Thats probably why he said "one of the first".
TODAY IS A GREAT DAY BC IGBLON UPLOADED
That editing made me laugh. 😊👍*whapeesh*
The eula was the thing that saved them, after a certain update they made it so u cant sell in game items for irl money
Certified banger
Bruh I remember how I broke a servers economy by buying blaze rods and selling blaze powder in a store where nobody else had noticed the pricing made profit, and became the richest player many times over within hours, before just building extravagant rich places to be griefed and torn down and stolen "accidentally". Money go brrr
This documentary is good af
"recently" it's been happening for ages.
And let's not forget this anti p2w movement also brought back one of the greatest griefers known in minecraft history
Who
@@datdwaa1532 Team Avolition, well, Storm Surge.
The one thing is if they have a personal site to sell stuff you just need to target their money transactions by taking out the site.
I like your internet historian editing style
Thank god i discovered this channel
Lmao the astolfo body pillow doe
0:08 astolfo kek
Astolfo mega pog
You are legit the Minecraft internet historian
This is a compliment btw
Your not copying him
Your have your own style
But you have some similarities
I thought this was a fitmc video, still didn’t disappoint though
SICK INTRO