Avia S-199 in Israeli Service - The Plane That Saved Israel

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • The Avia S-199 was a post Second World War fighter produced in Czechoslovakia. A total of 532 airplanes of different versions were built and used by the Czechoslovenské letectvo (Czechoslovak Air Force) from 1947 to 1955, and 25 planes were used by the Israeli Air Force (IAF) of the newly formed State of Israel between 1948 and 1949.
    Based on an article by Arturo Giusti with illustrations by Ed Jackson
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    Based on article by Arturo Giusti
    Narrated by Sosoniaru
    Edited by Brancovich
    Sources
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @leooram1959
    @leooram1959 Рік тому +53

    Imagine hitler knowing his airplanes were used to give Israel victory

    • @PhonoDirect
      @PhonoDirect 3 місяці тому

      Imagine a contemporary Norwegian nazi exterminating an anti-Israeli indoctrination camp on an island... Life is full of paradoxes.

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 2 роки тому +40

    The story of how Isreal became a state is a great one, regardless of your politics. The internal stories that show the determination of a small number of people and their willingness to strap on an ineffective and dangerous plane like this and go into combat are legendary.

    • @CUTECATSTUDIOS
      @CUTECATSTUDIOS 2 роки тому +2

      Yep!

    • @belkacemF
      @belkacemF 2 роки тому +1

      nope they Literally had the help of the west and trained soldiers from us uk france came to help israel and it was literally great powers against arabs like israel took Palestinians as hostages and threatened to bomb Jerusalem like tf arab can do stop laying it was all well maintain BY THE WEST not israel

    • @HarborLockRoad
      @HarborLockRoad Рік тому

      Oh, please, nobody buys the hollowfraud anymore... Look what they just did to kanye , you know, because they dont run everything. They ruined germany because hitler kicked out their banks.

    • @gaymer42069
      @gaymer42069 Рік тому +3

      Free Palestine. Two state, one state, no state at all, I don’t particularly care. Peace has to be made with the Palestinians and the genocide stopped.

    • @davidspiegler6896
      @davidspiegler6896 Рік тому +8

      @@gaymer42069 Genocide?

  • @r2gelfand
    @r2gelfand Рік тому +9

    Excellent account. I am an aviation enthusiast, love military history and a former technical writer for Boeing (and a USAF vet.) I truly appreciate your work!

  • @jamesbaker7112
    @jamesbaker7112 Рік тому +18

    Richard Nixon: "I'm told you have the best army in the world."
    Moishe Dayan: "I don't know. We've only ever fought arabs."

    • @danielt.3152
      @danielt.3152 Рік тому

      The Arabs learned military tactics from the Russians. Basically fall back and fall back and wait for the the snows to come. Unfortunately for the Arabs this does not work in the Middle East

    • @DarrenWalley
      @DarrenWalley 10 місяців тому +1

      Bloody brilliant. 😂

    • @TomaszPleniowaty
      @TomaszPleniowaty 3 місяці тому +1

      Moshe Daian był jednym z najlepszych generałów na Świecie ❤

  • @adhoc9647
    @adhoc9647 Рік тому +9

    Hey, I think you guys found yourself a niche that needed to be filled. Congratulations, thank you, and best wishes for success!

  • @stephengardiner9867
    @stephengardiner9867 Рік тому +7

    Although it was difficult to fly and fractious enough to earn the nickname "Mule", I think that it was one of the best looking of the whole Bf-109 lineage (at least of those designs that were actually built as there was a twin fuselage design that was rather like the Bf-109 parallel to the P-82... but not built ).

  • @RocketHarry865
    @RocketHarry865 Рік тому +8

    So many ironies with this. A fighter designed by Nazi Germany that was copied by Czechslovakia the first nation that the original designers militarily invaded then sold said copies to the newly born nation of Israel and used by the very people the designers of the plane tried to exterminate and used it to defeat the invading Arab nations who tried to destroy Israel whilst said Arabs were using the planes used by the Allies to win the second world war that that just ended 3 years earlier

    • @A.G.798
      @A.G.798 11 місяців тому +1

      Nein, nicht die Designer dieses Flugzeugs, sondern nur eine kleine Clique von Verrückten und Schwerverbrecher, die durch den Alliierten Versailles Vertrag an die Macht kammen! Sowas kommt von Sowas !

    • @1czechit1
      @1czechit1 2 місяці тому

      Israel was reconstituted, not newly born.

  • @davidatrakchi2707
    @davidatrakchi2707 Рік тому +9

    This was the only time when the Soviets supported Israel, just to weaken the Brits, they instructed Chechslovakia to turn a blind eye to our efforts of smuggling airplanes to Israel.
    This Avia was horrible, cost the lives of so many of it's pilots but this is what we had at that time.
    At 1955 the Soviets instructed Chechslovakia to supply modern arms to Egypt, an act that started the real arms race in the middle east

    • @tomaspisecky4835
      @tomaspisecky4835 8 місяців тому +3

      In 48 Czechoslovakia wasn’t yet under Soviet boot when we supported Israel, and was actually Soviets may turned the blind eye on smuggling the planes and arms through Bulgaria (arms and ammo) and Yugoslavia (planes flown then via Cypress). As Soviets officially were part of arms embargo. With Spitfires it was just after coup and we were in no need of them as to rearming to Mig15 and also low on reserves of foreign currency. But the deals we’re stuck before commies took over the country. So Czechoslovak-Israeli initiative opposing everyone’s stance/embargo. See how soviet/ruSSian propaganda works?

  • @rubensanmaurodelbosqur1950
    @rubensanmaurodelbosqur1950 2 роки тому +6

    Excelente video. 👏 👏

  • @Greywolfgrafix
    @Greywolfgrafix Рік тому +6

    I've read the engine was pretty much the same engine as used in the Heinkel 111.

    • @EneTheGene
      @EneTheGene Рік тому +1

      This is said in the video as well in case you didn't watch it.

  • @ottovonbismarck2443
    @ottovonbismarck2443 Рік тому +8

    It's not fair to compare the S-199 to 109G-10. G-10 was faster than a lot of contemporary aircraft at high altitude (!), including P-51, P-47, Tempest and Spitfire.

  • @yogurt3572
    @yogurt3572 2 роки тому +1

    Keep on !

  • @jelenanovakovic1536
    @jelenanovakovic1536 2 роки тому +1

    It is quite informative video!

  • @graemedicks6938
    @graemedicks6938 11 місяців тому

    Brilliant account 👏 just subscribed.

  • @markopantelic3088
    @markopantelic3088 2 роки тому +1

    nice video!!

  • @conceptalfa
    @conceptalfa Рік тому +2

    👍👍👍!

  • @ALA-uv7jq
    @ALA-uv7jq Рік тому +2

    Wow, the 109 still shooting down Spitfires in 1948.

    • @A.G.798
      @A.G.798 11 місяців тому +4

      Ja , liegt ihr im Blut ❤, sie liebt es!

  • @conceptalfa
    @conceptalfa Рік тому +4

    Wasn't there a lot of cheapo Mercedes Messerschmidt 109 engines and wrecked planes lying around here and there all over Europe right after the WWII for either the czechs or the israelis to procure and install in the Avia fighters to enhance the performance ???

    • @A.G.798
      @A.G.798 11 місяців тому +1

      Wohl nicht, und die im Tschechischen Werk sind durch eine Feuer Katastrophe vernichtet worden, zumal die Westallierten keine Lieferungen in den Ostblock genehmigt hätten.

    • @tomaspisecky4835
      @tomaspisecky4835 8 місяців тому +2

      No, the ones in Czech storage which were initially supposed to go into the airframes mysteriously blew up (suspected commie inside job - leading to Usti massacre of German minority which had support/participation of local army commander who was serving in eastern front under RA command there, those actions led for unrest causing that authorities had no means to guarantee safety of German minority and were one of main reason of the deportation of most German population (actively part, or complicit) to Germany as the only solution to keep order (again good for Soviets as it made the regime control easier and was more effective/easier to exploit)

  • @mhpjii
    @mhpjii Рік тому +1

    מצוין! נרשם.

  • @aceofspadesguy4913
    @aceofspadesguy4913 2 роки тому +7

    C-54s as bombers, Arab wars are so weird.

    • @mattbite
      @mattbite Рік тому +2

      They can fly? Yes. They can carry load? Yes. They can drop the load during flight? Yes. What's the problem? :)

    • @polarking888
      @polarking888 10 місяців тому

      ​@@mattbiteThe ( slight ) problem here is the lack of gunners ,literally no gunners and an improvosed bomb bay cuz why not

  • @marcuswall3857
    @marcuswall3857 Рік тому +3

    We see quite a few P-51 Mustangs in the accompanying videos. Why?

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg Рік тому +1

      Just unrelated footage used for continuity purposes.

    • @joebfnl1079
      @joebfnl1079 Рік тому +4

      No, P-51's we're used by the IAF!.

    • @davidlewis5742
      @davidlewis5742 3 місяці тому

      @@joebfnl1079 But not at the time of the War of Independence. 🙂

    • @davidlewis5742
      @davidlewis5742 3 місяці тому

      I stand corrected. There were 2 but they did not arrive until after the period covered by this video. 😊

  • @MechaPuppy
    @MechaPuppy 6 місяців тому +2

    the irony of a nazi plane with a different but still nazi engine being used to serve israel a jewish country is insane and kinda funny

  • @whiskywolff
    @whiskywolff 3 місяці тому

    The history is full of ironies

  • @tellyonthewall8751
    @tellyonthewall8751 Рік тому +1

    showing spanish ha110x talking G12

  • @thomashahn4425
    @thomashahn4425 5 місяців тому

    Das die da überhaupt angesprungen sind.

  • @alessandromazzini7026
    @alessandromazzini7026 Рік тому

    lol "agile allied fighters" then mention the P-51 and P-47

    • @That70sGuitarist
      @That70sGuitarist Рік тому +1

      Ditto for putting "roomy" and Spitfire in the same sentence! As sweet a bird as she is, the Spitfire's cockpit was only marginally less cramped than that of the "Messer."
      In either case, you didn't so much "get into the cockpit," but essentially "strapped on the plane."😉
      At least the S-199 had the greatly improved Galland canopy, which gave its pilots a little more much-needed headroom. The new canopy got rid of most of the reinforcement struts from earlier bf-109 canopies. It also eliminated the many blind spots those struts created, which must have come as a relief to its pilots.
      I'm just surprised nobody fixed the two biggest headaches of all bf-109/S-99/S-199 models. Those were the hinged sideways-opening canopy, which couldn't be opened in flight, and the emergency canopy jettison mechanism, which often failed when pilots needed it most. Many German pilots died because they couldn't get out of their doomed fighter. On those occasions where the release worked properly, the position of the horizontal stabiliser also made baling out a risky task. Pilots were told to try to climb out and down towards the wing to avoid being struck by the horizontal stabiliser, thus increasing their chance of "getting out alive."

  • @minhthunguyendang9900
    @minhthunguyendang9900 5 місяців тому

    1:20
    Does the just elected Slovak pm think that his pro-kremlin stance will gain him back this part of Slovakia 🇸🇰
    soviet-annexed in 1945 ?

    • @TheSmiesko
      @TheSmiesko 2 місяці тому

      Not him, us. That land wanted to be independent and was doing quite well under one state.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 2 місяці тому

      @@TheSmiesko from russia ?

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 Рік тому

    Shooting off your own propeller is indeed a serious problem.... we should fix that. 👍. Great useless trivia information. but thx. anyway.