The Soviets used the open cockpit Polikarpov, and the MIG3 was often flown with the cockpit open, because of the near impossibility to open it in emergency, to bail out, and for the engine exhaust filling the cockpit.
To the Italians speakers , come on ! Enjoy the beautiful and respectful movie about Our industrial history. Do not stop at the pronunciation please ....To the author , congratulations and keep doing your job ! ❤️🇮🇹❤️
I love to listen about great military successes of Italians during WW2 and there are so many of them - submarines in the Atlantic, frogmen in Gibraltar and Alexandria, tank raids in Sicilia...
Italian aircraft always gets short shrift from the historical community. I was no different, but recently I've begun seeing that even though the Italians didn't have the industrial might of the larger powers, they did some great things with what they had. I'm especially digging their styling. They had some great-looking aircraft👌😁👍
Italian aircraft weak armament and aircraft engines are the reason they are considered to be bad jokes. Weak armament and weak engines are a really bad combination.
@@coverts2962- yeah they did after switching engines to Mercedes n was an improvement in speed but still lacked firepower and poor performance and so it was abandoned!!!
The Saetta is such a lovely looking aircraft. just love it. I also love all the pilots named here, both italian and other wise, it's good to know their stories.
The most effective branch of our military was without any doubt the navy....followed by any special forces group of any branch, adra commandos (aviation special forces), and folgore where the best in their field in ww2 ...while decima mas was the best marine special unit of ww2 and also the first in the world.
Just a little correction. Macchi must be pronounced in English with the K sound, so basically Makki! In Italian c+h = k sound Also c+a = k sound, so Aeronautika
Macchi M.C.200 had no particular defects and was equipped with excellent capabilities for close combat.[5] Indeed, its handling was excellent and stability in high-speed dives outstanding.[6] He could thus duel with the best allied fighters and come out undefeated. Only the Supermarine Spitfire could outrun him, climbing.[4] [5] Bill Gunston, The Illustrated Directory Fighting Aircraft of World War II, London, Salamander Book Limited, 1988. [6] Mike Spick, Allied Fighter Aces of World War II, London, Greenhill Books, 1997. [4] Jeffrey L. Ethell, Aircraft of World War II, Glasgow, HarperCollins/Jane's, 1995.
Early MC.200 HAD particulary defects: A fatal tendency of getting into a unrecoverable flat spin, causing several deadly accidents. But this was adressed with plywood fixed on the wings' surface.
Italy literally is almost never talked about other then being shit on. But how do you expect a country that had little industry, poor leadership and very limited resources could do well? Germany and even Japan were in a much better position, well maybe not Japan as much but Germany had it so easy compared to the Italians. Plus the Italians saved the Germans ass several times in North Africa when they axis were falling back from Egypt and Libya. Even Erwin Rommel understood their bravery and ability to fight but being way under equipped and horribly lead
Been reading up on Italian stuff they had some nice bits and some not so good , but you hear names like Fiat etc , we’ll they still around making engines , Berrtta guns ,Italian pilots liked open cockpits for some reason love this indigenous stuff
While it is true that the Tunisian campaign didn't not start until November 42 the RAF had been flying interdiction patrols and fighter sweeps on and off from Malta into Tunisia since 1941
Quel Mc200 è pilotato da un pilota americano fu catturato in Sicilia la foto fu scattata mentre il pilota americano lo provava e so stava divertendo e nel fare acrobazie a bassa quota uccise un soldato americano,ora quel Macchi si trova nel museo dell' aviazione in USA ed è ancora in condizioni di volo.
Good work, mate...!!! Just be careful with the correct pronunciation, which in this case, is kind of...MAKI or MAQUI, but, in any case, not MACHI (like in MACHO, as per your pronunciation)...!!! In the case of this plane's name, the meaning of it's Italian name - "Saetta" - translated into English is more like "ARROW", rather than "Lightning" (as it appears translated by some information sources...)
When you are trying to deal with foreign languages, you should deal with the basics of the language you are dealing with! So Macchi,cchi= pronounced K!!!
The well commented-upon mispronunciation of 'Macchi' aside this was a highly un-annoying video. I think I would also agree with you that there was nothing 'under-powered' about the M.C. 200. As time goes on that impression, that hit me on first discovering the type in childhood in the 1970s, seems to fade into the past. Maybe it's more a psychological phenomenon, with the engine being under the landmark figure of 1,000 hp, than an actual one.
When we deal with some topics and pretend to be serious, then we have to learn a few things about pronunciation! Namely, if all important things are pronounced beyond recognition, then the intention is totally missed!!
How OFFENSIVE ! I am extremely offended by this narrator that can't pronounce the name of the subject of the film. Who in the right mind in the production of this clip would allow this? this is grossly pathetic. The narrator grossly pronunce Italian names wrong and to boot the time line is wrong.
The rest of the video is superb. We Germans have to put up with videos about our tech not being pronounced correctly. The times of me cringing about how badly the word „Ausführung“ could be pronounced are long over.
Try being a native English speaker and hearing how badly native English speakers pronounce English words, not to mention non native English speakers mauling the language. P.S. if I had a penny for every time someone has pronounced my name "Steffan Meer", I could retire to the Carribean.
jesus, if the mispronunciation of a foreign word offends you, how do you deal with things that matter?"Offended" the worst thing that can happen these days. Grow up.
I got some copium with your name on it. You wonder why people don't cover Italian stuff, when you get so offended because someone mispronounced something. He was doing history research, not linguistics research, grow the hell up.
Italian WW2 planes always just neat looking
and some of them are downright sexy - (G.55, C202, C205)
@@ninjalanternshark1508 Like Lambos with wings lol
Flying a open cockpit plane in the Russian winter ……. Damn that’s a tough group.
Look FIAT G50 in Finnish service.
The Soviets used the open cockpit Polikarpov, and the MIG3 was often flown with the cockpit open, because of the near impossibility to open it in emergency, to bail out, and for the engine exhaust filling the cockpit.
closed cockpits are for pansies
At least the exhaust heated the cockpit.
B'B'B'B'R'R'R'R'R'R''R'R'R
To the Italians speakers , come on ! Enjoy the beautiful and respectful movie about Our industrial history. Do not stop at the pronunciation please ....To the author , congratulations and keep doing your job ! ❤️🇮🇹❤️
I love to listen about great military successes of Italians during WW2 and there are so many of them - submarines in the Atlantic, frogmen in Gibraltar and Alexandria, tank raids in Sicilia...
He really thinks Italians watches Angloid videos 😂😂😂😂 they barely watch Italian ones
Italian aircraft always gets short shrift from the historical community. I was no different, but recently I've begun seeing that even though the Italians didn't have the industrial might of the larger powers, they did some great things with what they had.
I'm especially digging their styling. They had some great-looking aircraft👌😁👍
Italian aircraft weak armament and aircraft engines are the reason they are considered to be bad jokes. Weak armament and weak engines are a really bad combination.
It was a piece of junk , underpowered light armaments and poorly trained pilots lol
@@coverts2962- yeah they did after switching engines to Mercedes n was an improvement in speed but still lacked firepower and poor performance and so it was abandoned!!!
@@glennquagmire1747 tutto puoi dire ma non che i piloti fossero male addestrati
@@flaviozandiri5660- nichts als italienischer SCHROTT LOL 😆 😂 🤣
The Saetta is such a lovely looking aircraft. just love it. I also love all the pilots named here, both italian and other wise, it's good to know their stories.
There is a mistake, the Regia aeronautica already had a monoplanes before the MC.200, the G.50 fiat, was the one who had the honor in 1936
C 200 was amazing airplane and very beautyfull
Beautiful air combat plane.....it takes a very courageous person to fly open cockpit in cold climate.....
nice video on a underrated fighter.
Correct pronunciation in Italian is "Makki"
The Italian Airforce is very interesting and arguably the most effective branch of the Italian armed forces in WWII
their Naval special forces were good, the Decima mas, the Alpini on the Russian front.
The most effective branch of our military was without any doubt the navy....followed by any special forces group of any branch, adra commandos (aviation special forces), and folgore where the best in their field in ww2 ...while decima mas was the best marine special unit of ww2 and also the first in the world.
era la regia marina!!!!
Nice presentation. I was surprised at the number of photos and films.
Just a little correction.
Macchi must be pronounced in English with the K sound, so basically Makki!
In Italian c+h = k sound
Also c+a = k sound, so Aeronautika
A little correction??????????? this is infamy.......
@@57tricci What's wrong? Machi sounds more MACHO!
If you speak Italian however the narrator is speaking English, do you call Germany Duetschland, no so stfu
@@kacodemonio No it sounds softer
In Spanish c+a also makes a K sound.
Denmark was about to have a few of these planes.
Unfortunate the germans invaded before it happend.
Macchi M.C.200 had no particular defects and was equipped with excellent capabilities for close combat.[5] Indeed, its handling was excellent and stability in high-speed dives outstanding.[6] He could thus duel with the best allied fighters and come out undefeated. Only the Supermarine Spitfire could outrun him, climbing.[4]
[5] Bill Gunston, The Illustrated Directory Fighting Aircraft of World War II, London, Salamander Book Limited, 1988.
[6] Mike Spick, Allied Fighter Aces of World War II, London, Greenhill Books, 1997.
[4] Jeffrey L. Ethell, Aircraft of World War II, Glasgow, HarperCollins/Jane's, 1995.
Early MC.200 HAD particulary defects: A fatal tendency of getting into a unrecoverable flat spin, causing several deadly accidents.
But this was adressed with plywood fixed on the wings' surface.
@@OliverSchroeder yes, flaw of young.
@@OliverSchroeder yes , flaw of youth
If im not mistaken with the g50 it had a kd of 88 to 15 in russia
that was the Macchi saetta wasnt it
Italy literally is almost never talked about other then being shit on. But how do you expect a country that had little industry, poor leadership and very limited resources could do well? Germany and even Japan were in a much better position, well maybe not Japan as much but Germany had it so easy compared to the Italians. Plus the Italians saved the Germans ass several times in North Africa when they axis were falling back from Egypt and Libya. Even Erwin Rommel understood their bravery and ability to fight but being way under equipped and horribly lead
Macchi (Makki) because you say Caffè macchiato (Kaffé Makkiato), No?
Five minutes after every other takeoff the " ⚠MOTORE " light flashes .
For info about Italian forces on the Russian Front, read "Mussolini's War in the East 1941-1943".
Been reading up on Italian stuff they had some nice bits and some not so good , but you hear names like Fiat etc , we’ll they still around making engines , Berrtta guns ,Italian pilots liked open cockpits for some reason love this indigenous stuff
nice video!
Written not for Italian market but world wide audience. That’s why the English language is being used
It's pronounced as Mackie. So many people get it wrong and it's mildly annoying 😐
13:52. Brits weren't in Tunisia in April 1942
While it is true that the Tunisian campaign didn't not start until November 42 the RAF had been flying interdiction patrols and fighter sweeps on and off from Malta into Tunisia since 1941
@@jonsouth1545 why if Tunisia was Vichy French still. Also the reference in the vid was an attack on a tank column. Anyway I'm sure he meant 1943
23:57. awesome pic
Quel Mc200 è pilotato da un pilota americano fu catturato in Sicilia la foto fu scattata mentre il pilota americano lo provava e so stava divertendo e nel fare acrobazie a bassa quota uccise un soldato americano,ora quel Macchi si trova nel museo dell' aviazione in USA ed è ancora in condizioni di volo.
One of the fighters appears to have four guns.
Good work, mate...!!! Just be careful with the correct pronunciation, which in this case, is kind of...MAKI or MAQUI, but, in any case, not MACHI (like in MACHO, as per your pronunciation)...!!! In the case of this plane's name, the meaning of it's Italian name - "Saetta" - translated into English is more like "ARROW", rather than "Lightning" (as it appears translated by some information sources...)
Spot on about CH=K, but IMHO (Italian here) "Saetta" means "Lightning Bolt", "Arrow" in Italian is "Freccia".
"Folgore" (= Macchi MC
202) also means "Lightning".
*ENGAGEMENT POST* :)
MACCHI IS SPIELED MAKE.
An all business appearance
Good aircraft. Even though it was obsolescent and underarmed and underpowered.
It's pronounced "Makki" -- the "h" makes the C hard.
macchi is read "makki"
Maremma americana!...ma come si puo fare um documentário non azzeccando una parola in italiano!!!??
The narrator is not Italian. He tried his best. Be kind!
The script writer is Italian!
Pr. Makky.
Makki that is how it is pronounced. MAKKI MAKKI MAKKI repeat after me...MAKKI.
One hour of documentary and you could not get the name right. C'mon!!
is it really that important to you? its a bunch of cool planes from a billion years ago who cares about pronounciation
When you are trying to deal with foreign languages, you should deal with the basics of the language you are dealing with! So Macchi,cchi= pronounced K!!!
The well commented-upon mispronunciation of 'Macchi' aside this was a highly un-annoying video. I think I would also agree with you that there was nothing 'under-powered' about the M.C. 200. As time goes on that impression, that hit me on first discovering the type in childhood in the 1970s, seems to fade into the past. Maybe it's more a psychological phenomenon, with the engine being under the landmark figure of 1,000 hp, than an actual one.
When we deal with some topics and pretend to be serious, then we have to learn a few things about pronunciation! Namely, if all important things are pronounced beyond recognition, then the intention is totally missed!!
Macci my ass!!!!!😂
Certa gente fa schifo,
EYE TALIAN?😳
Jman
How OFFENSIVE ! I am extremely offended by this narrator that can't pronounce the name of the subject of the film. Who in the right mind in the production of this clip would allow this? this is grossly pathetic. The narrator grossly pronunce Italian names wrong and to boot the time line is wrong.
The rest of the video is superb. We Germans have to put up with videos about our tech not being pronounced correctly. The times of me cringing about how badly the word „Ausführung“ could be pronounced are long over.
Try being a native English speaker and hearing how badly native English speakers pronounce English words, not to mention non native English speakers mauling the language. P.S. if I had a penny for every time someone has pronounced my name "Steffan Meer", I could retire to the Carribean.
jesus, if the mispronunciation of a foreign word offends you, how do you deal with things that matter?"Offended" the worst thing that can happen these days. Grow up.
Make a video about their aircraft in WW2 That way it will pronounce properly. This was made by a non Italian company who at least made the effort
I got some copium with your name on it. You wonder why people don't cover Italian stuff, when you get so offended because someone mispronounced something. He was doing history research, not linguistics research, grow the hell up.
Typical Italian aircraft under powerd
it is a tiny motor, look at what a hellcat or fw 190 have for engine diameter!
*underpowered*
Underarmed
@@ricktaylor3748 but a great dogfighter and could match it with a lumbering Hurricane
@@JohnSmith-rw8uh I don't think so.
When you shot one down you got to paint a fat meatball on your plane.
spaghetti with meatballs is a stupid Amerikan thing
@@JohnSmith-rw8uhYup , absolutely spot on . 😊
You pronounce "macchi" in a very wrong way that needs correction... in Italian "chi" is pronounced like "key" in English