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Join us on a 30-day journey testing the Mantis X Blackbeard dry fire system. Our team replaced live fire with daily dry fire drills, aiming to enhance our shooting skills. The video uncovers our experience, challenges, and surprising results. Did 30 days of dry fire truly boost our shooting abilities? Watch to find out. No Mantis sponsorship, just honest insights. Share your thoughts in the comments! (especially you Garand thumb and administrative results enjoyers) #MantisDryFireChallenge #firearms
Clarity of points: Our original drills showed about a 0.5 second improvement- which WOULD be huge.
However, our hits for significantly worse; we weren’t shooting “more accurately” or even just as accurately. Just faster.
Bill drills saw 0 improvement, which cements our point on not helping with recoil.
We DO expect to see lasting improvements on target acquisitions and transitions and plan to use the mantis to train for those accordingly. Your first shot in any high pressure situation IS the most important, Mantis and dryfire improved that. But did NOT help us with our follow up shots/recoil control.
New shooters will likely benefit the most from this as it will force you to become very familiar with your firearm! Hopefully this helps if we were unclear on why we were disappointed with our results. Thanks for watching, I love you, have a good day!!
I just dragged out my phone, unlocked it, navigated to this particular application, and dug up this ancient non-premier to say this:
No one has tested Snoring Deseret Prstotues yet.
@@NinjaofApathy HR did; he dropped out. It’s kind of pointless…
@@DeskPop did I miss a video?
@@NinjaofApathy no video on it; we worked at a gun shop building guns and he was like “anyways I better become a gunsmith through SDI”
And then about four months in we realized he had already knew everything
@@DeskPop huh. That's cool. Despite the caprisuns.
Ubiased channels like this are crucial in the gun community. Thank you guys for that
We are honest when we schill; and we will never lie about a product
As a target shooter here in france, i started a training routine consisting of around 200 dry shots a day, using a cheapo amazon laser bullet and the free Mantis laser accademy app, ive seen my score improve quite a lot after only a week, now after a month, i went from an average score of around 70/100 all the way to 85/100 irl, it doesnt sound like much but for that specific style of shooting, thats the difference between someone who can't even win a local fun competition, and someone who can win / consistently get a podium at a regional championship... the first week was amazing, i saw my body position and hand placement on the gun change a loooot
We definitely wanted to get across that new shooters would likely benefit from it; but it should NOT be used to supplement live fire training, just in addition to live fire.
We also saw improvements on our “first rounds” which obviously in a competition is big!!
Thanks for the comment, didn’t know we had viewers in France!!
Such a damn good idea for a video. Y’all got that big brain energy. Original content, so nice. Can’t wait for other guntubers to rip off this video.
And get a million views on theirs too 🤣🫶
Dry fire is literally learning how to manipulate your weapon systems. How to load a magazine. How to handle your weapon. How to rack the slide. Etc. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
You MADE ITTT
2/3 units breaking especially since they're 400 buckeroos. I'll stick with my dead AA battery holding the bolt halfway back. For my ready up's other dry fire drills.
They got a pretty solid warranty though. While it sucks that expensive things break, it sucks a lot less when they just ship you a new one as soon as they determine over email that yours isn't working. The fact that the Mantis X sensor fulfils the same function as a shot timer for live fire, but works regardless of ambient noise level, basically pays for the thing itself. The way the app manages to make training fun and competitive doesn't hurt, either.
Sorry babe, can’t do lunch today
Deskpop posted a 30min upload
I have a mantis. You guys nailed it, saved on ammo cost, draw and first round and target transitions is it's strength, recoil management is it's weakness.
I do want to point out that trex arms has a vid of a japanese kid that only did airsoft and did great on drills.
I have noticed if you mix do like 5 to 1 ratio five dry fire practices for every one live fire. Plus I think it helps for positional shooting like from a knee helped me get my kneeling position figured out again…
I'm surprised that there isn't a system like the mantis that replicates recoil. Without that, it's kind of useless.
This is a much needed video on the realities of dry firing. 10/10.
Also, why can't you guys get a KP-15?
Washington state has a complete “assault weapons” ban
If it’s centerfire and semi-automatic or a part that goes to one, we can’t get it here.
@@DeskPopWell that's dumb as hell. Hopefully it gets overturned soon.
@@JumCuggler fr, it’s killing us
CoolFire is probably the closest you can get to simulating recoil, but it's not going to be that much better than a nice airsoft reproduction of your gun. There is no replacement for live fire training, but there's still a lot of benefits to dry training when done mindfully. And there's a lot of training scars to be picked up if done mindlessly.
Mantis is good for draw and split times. That’s it. Also shows how you draw if you have extra movement you need to reduce.
The information was amazing and like nothing else that I have seen on YT. Thanks for putting out a quality video.
Thank you; we’re hoping to grow and do more of these videos that take LOTS of time 🤝🏼
Ive been wondering and asking ppl to actually show the Mantis system being used! Glad its yall doing it first!
I found the Mantis system to be most useful for things like training a quick draw to first shot, or a quick low ready to first shot. However, I also saw some increases in accuracy, especially in fast strings of pistol fire at intermediate ranges. Those thousands upon thousands of reps working on not disturbing the sight picture really helped me avoid fundamental errors which would otherwise throw my shots wide. And it really helped my transition from iron sights to a red dot, especially in terms of acquiring the dot instantly on pistol presentation. Rifle marksmanship was largely unaffected. Initially I was a bit too quick on the trigger and wasn't letting my sights settle (training scar from the Blackbeard system perhaps), but once I slowed things down a tick my groups tightened up to their usual spread.
That being said, I think the mindset one brings to training is just as important as doing the training reps themselves. Lasers and lack of recoil can let you get away with things that real bullets won't, so it's SUPER important to maintain the body tension and positioning that would allow you to manage recoil in live training. And it's important to focus on accuracy of sight placement over speed, even when dry training. Otherwise, you spend thousands of dry reps building training scars that negatively impact your live fire abilities. Just my $0.02.
This is the first video on dry fire systems I've watched that wasn't sold by the host, sponsored or freely given for review. I Don't trust any of those reviews, no matter how honest the reviewers seem to be. This review I trust and verifies my presumption of the reliability and effectiveness of these systems. Thank you, you earned my sub!
Thank you! If we’re schilling; we will absolutely tell you we are schilling. Generally our clause is we won’t review a product we can’t be honest about and we tell you if we are getting money
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There is no substitute for live fire training, but practicing live fire and doing dry fire practice in between will help improve your skills. Dry fire helps provide muscle memory for the fundamentals, provided you are doing things correctly and not practicing bad habits. This is why getting professional training is a great investment.
Here's an idea for a video! Please do a durability test pitting a carbon fiber handguard against a traditional aluminum handguard. Lyman Products currently has their CF Tacstar handguard on sale for ~$100, so you can do it for cheap.
If we can get them to ship to us we will do it!!
@@DeskPopThey shipped it to my house no problem. I think ground shipping is $20 for the continental USA. Took about a week to arrive. Around $130 with tax and shipping.
I watched a Jerry Mitchulek Q&A; he addressed the effectiveness of airsoft, for training. He exampled how foreign competitors, from countries with absolute ban on guns, would come over and literally borrow guns to compete.
He pointed to the focus on fundamentals being the driver of how well those competitors did.
sounds like cope for people who are too cowardly to join the military... you all wet dream of being operators but won't take a step you deem too hard. Hence airsoft.
Exactly. If all you do is click mindlessly, dry fire is just going to build training scars. If you train with it just like you'd train with live ammo, you become a better shooter. Intention and mindfulness make a huge difference. Not all training is equal.
A couple things worth noting: Dryfire can get really boring and introduce bad habits if you’re just “completing reps.” It’s important to push yourself in terms of speed and consistency, gauging your performance honestly based off certain cues (am I pulling the rifle sideways with support hand, Did I have to roll my head way down to get my mount set, did I start tensing up after a few shots, etc.) I’d recommend checking out Ben Steoger if you want some really good dryfire resources to push yourself with, especially for handguns. Dryfire isn’t just for beginners either, most of the top level competitive shooters dryfire as much if not more than they live fire. Not knocking the Mantis system but many do it without anything but an empty gun.
Yep! The training is only as good as the work you put in. Mindless clicking on the trigger will just build training scars. But if you treat each dry shot like it's a live one, with the body braced and positioned to manage recoil despite there being none, you'll go to the range better than you were before you dry trained. You only get out of it what you're willing to put into it.
Nobody intended for dry fire to take the place of live fire training. Lol. You should be doing both.
The point here is the marketing/sales pitch that it will save you money on live fire training as a supplement. We went from training weekly to still shooting (because we make content every week) but intentionally just not training with our rifles anything but dry fire for a month.
How often do you go shoot? We’ve been told by many that they barely shoot once a month…
I would say dry fire for average person or new shooter it would help.
What I've found is dry fire combined with a par timer helps to work out weapon manipulation work. Things like draw to first shot, reloads, target transitions, position changes, and familiarity with a course of fire. Overall it helps with the strength of manipulating a weapon, both muscle memory and the physical strength necessary. This makes massive improvements alone, but if you couple it with live fire practice with some level of focus, it makes for an astronomical level of improvement quickly. Like 80/20 rule.
I believe we said new shooters would likely see an improvement. Experienced/regular shooters not so much
@@DeskPop Obviously live fire training is superior to dry fire, so it's not really fair to compare it to someone who regularly shoots. With the cost of ammo, those people are pretty rare, limited to MIL/LEO, guntubers with ammo sponsors, and people that work at training facilities. The vast majority of people who own guns don't even put a thousand rounds downrange every year, so dry fire training is vital to gain and maintain acceptable levels of skill. I'd argue that it's even good for experienced shooters, if said shooters fell into financial or life situations that limited their ability to live fire train.
It would be cool to see this experiment re-ran with some subjects who have a more typical yearly round count that's closer to the average citizens'.
@@theKashConnoisseur we just did; check out todays video.
Also a side note, I’m a normal guy who doesn’t make any actual money off this. If you prioritize training (and work your ass off to pay for it) you can shoot a lot… I buy everything for the channel, and I’m extremely poor from it
@@DeskPop today's video wasn't a new shooter using pure dry fire training so it's hard to separate the results he got training live with you at the range vs training dry with Mantis.
I prioritize training as much as I can but putting myself through medical school means I have to prioritize a lot of other things that put demands on the amount of time and money I can burn at the range. Trust me, if I could shoot weekly I would, but between the two hour drive to the nearest range and the fact that a post graduate degree doesn't pay for itself means I get to live train quarterly, if that.
I feel like you ignored that a huge majority of the population can't train as much as you, and so things like Mantis can make a meaningful difference in people's skill and familiarity with their weapons. But instead of promoting the benefits of dry training to the majority of the population, your video here just convinced people that if they're not live training, they might as well not train. And I think that's a real shame.
@@theKashConnoisseur dry fire is not a substitute for live fire is essentially what we are saying here, and what we added to with todays video. Dry fire will get you familiar with your gun and your first round on target. Live fire is essentially for follow-ups for sure.
It would be cool to see the same 30 day test but using the CMMG 22lr Conversion. I may have to do this for myself. 🤔
Didn't PNW Guerrilla did a vid about this ?:D
@PNW_Guerilla ?:D
@@_dominik_philipp_ Bro I want to say they did. I know I am definitely going to check. We have been running them in our AR's lately, between my Daughter, Girlfriend and myself shooting gets to be expensive even Reloading. These CMMG 22lr Conversions have been awesome.
They did a 5,000rd test.
I suspect the 22lr conversion kit would be great. We are actually going to do this again with a less experienced shooter and hybrid live fire/dry fire training.
It's important to remember that any mantis system works by only knowing the target being aimed at with the first instance of pressure on the trigger. That's what it records as the initial point of aim. The break and after break movement is what most people try to see with the mantis, but not the intial at of pulling which may give inaccurate results if you're one to stage the trigger or "cheating" the pull in pulling the trigger without intending to break a shot off until your sights are aligned on the intended target.
Very useful. It takes me over an hour to get to my home range, so this might be something to use to practice a draw/first shot and draw/shot/transition.
Valuable data fellas 👍
You’re misunderstanding the information from the Mantis app. It doesn’t indicate where your shots land, it shows muzzle movement immediately before the shot broke (blue) and during trigger press (yellow). The score is based on the amount of movement. For this particular drill I would say both are irrelevant and you should focus on the time.
The Blackbeard and the app become much more useful when doing multiple targets and transitions, helping you find and eliminate inefficiencies.
And of course the auto-resetting trigger and timer are useful regardless of the drills.
My Blackbeard doesn't hold zero either. Customer service told me to tweak the turrets (duh) but zero still turns to shit after about 30-40 fires. I am very disappointed.
They should replace it, they have been good to us on replacing ours!
Dry fire should never replace LIVE FIRE!!!. It's a great way to get more acquainted with your firearms and create valuable muscle memory. Unfortunately, your mind is a muscle and if you don't shoot your guns every now and again it tends to forget things like recoil management. I know times are hard but please don't forget to feed your guns.
Fair and balanced video. I like this type of content.
They probably don't care because they don't know you exist.
Unfortunately we talked to them at length in person and they definitely know we exist 😂 don’t think we matter is more accurate- which is definitely true
So 2/3 units broke. Mantis couldn’t fix them, didn’t replace…. I will NEVER buy one now…. Just dryfire empty or with my laser cartridge…. Maybe get a shot timer…. Why bother with such an unreliable, expensive product. They should care as you’ve shown the lacluster quality they offer….
Dry fire practice was critical FOR ME to get way, way better with using a dot on a pistol for the initial sight acquisition and shot on target.
Do what you want.
Any time that you get in some practice dry-firing your AR or dry-fire a bolt gun, it is all good practice. I can not do it at 72 years old with problems from Agent Orange. The brain is still in there working but the body is too slow and hurting.
I have been watching the country since 1971 declining for decades. And as you know our military has been declining as well for decades. ‘Nam veteran. Under 1 percent join up.
Good video boys, interesting results, not going to lie kinda disappointed in results. I bought two of these, BUT still good tool for practicing cqb and other stuff I guess. Commenting for the algorithm
We were also disappointed; but we do shoot a TON of live fire so half expected
Hey @Desk Pop
no "Fanboy" here, my Mantis-Experiance is veeeeeeery little, but I've some thoughts I'd like to share with you:
1.) As far as I know, you're shooting and doing drills weekly, so I'd say you're not the "average" shooter.
2.) A good test - that would cost you no money - would be, to do 30 days without any(!) training (maybe some "fun-shooting" during that time as the show must go on, I know), and then test and compare these results to the 30 days with Mantis. So you could see if Mantis saved you from getting even worse.
3.) With my veeeeeeery little experiance with Mantis, I see a benefit in single-shot accuracy. I'm shooting my Glock at 25 meters some inches to the left (not "down left" any more, but "up and down and middle left, but left", I hope you understand what I mean). My question was: is the sight a little bit off and do I have to adjust it, or is it me shooting left? With Mantis I could analyse that it is me and that instead of adjusting the sights I have to work on myself and my trigger control.
4.) WHAT I DON'T LIKE like about Mantis is, that in the app you see in which direction you drift off while pulling the trigger, but you don't get a scale on the rings that sais "how much". When Mantis shows me that I shoot left, how much left has this (dry fire) shot been on 10 meters, on 25 meters? What's the minute of angle (MOA) I'm off the point I tried to hit? That's a simple thing they could add to their app, a question of software, and I don't get why a simple scale is not implemented (and if it is, please tell me where/how I can find it).
Never used it, but I imagine the mantis would be good to train for stuff less reliant on recoil control, like transitioning between targets, reloading etc. While stuff that rely on follow up shots like the Bill drill are not ideally trained with this since it is not training recoil managment
The mantis should have trained you to know your height over bore with your new optic setup if you had trained with it
Thats probably one of the biggest benefits of it.
I definitely wouldn't spend extra for the one that connects to a phone
You just want something that shoots a lazer once when you pull the trigger and doing more positional drills where you are training your movement instead of marskmanship fundamentals it is useful.
For instance go from standing to kneeling to prone and vice versa and just train that over and over again and also you can train getting into weird positions all while just considering that you aren't training follow up shots you are simply training for that initial shot
I definitely think it is still a useful training tool for the simple fact that you can break shots and it resets.
Without it I would still train dryfire but it is just more annoying cause you gotta charge it every time you break the trigger
Trigger squeeze is also only one of the 6 fundamentals of marksmanship tho so training that isn't really the most important thing
Also if you are someone who introduces people to firearms who might at first be afraid of shooting an AR15 you can let them learn the manual of arms with this first to build some confidence
We have to buy merch so Joe can finally get jeans that fit
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@@DeskPop *warcrimes
Black and gray camo pattern on the first gun you live-fired is freakin sick. Did you do that yourself? I have been wanting to do something similar to mine for a while
Done myself, blue painters tape, some leaves, three shades of gray, and a lot of patience
I guess I could use one for presentation to first shot drills.
I prefer a 22LR conversion or look-a-like training gun.
Oddly enough my CMMG AR conversion kit works perfectly. But still have lack of recoil issues.
Fellas...kinda missed that on the default mantis setup it has no idea if you hit targets, it is just looking for stability of shots before, during, and after. Perhaps worth noting, you can still use the Mantis with live fire. Heh my first test unit broke too.
I think they are using the black beard with the mantis built in, I'm not a fan of that because you lose the ability to track live fire training. I use the mantis x for both my pistol and ar. Dry fire mag in the pistol and a standard black beard, without laser or mantis built in on my ar.
The Laser academy app still tracks your hits and can be used in tangent with the Mantis Blackbeard system- we emailed them about it when we were going to do this.
@@DeskPop yea addon app looks like adds some functionality, I just didn't want to bother with phone camera setup. I went with some portable laser reactive targets for my adventure. (So can really spread out the targets)
@@DeskPop Their app is... not great. It works better with Smokeless Range, ShootOFF, Point Blank Simulator, etc. and combined with the IR version. There's a tendency to chase a green/red dot on follow-ups, which has issues due to lack of drop, but also reinforcement of bad habits. The more advanced software deals with the laser zeroing issue through prefire calibration, and then runs a ballistics calculator based on distance to target, camera, etc.
It's still most useful for transitions, moving targets, and shoot/no shoot, all of which are things that you're going to miss out on with the barebones mobile apps, but they're also things that a lot of people may have difficulty training on a typical range.
@@black-ic3973 I think this is essentially what we said. its great for first shot and transitions, not being able to simulate recoil will always result in sub optimal results.
Livefire training is the best training. That is fact. Dryfire is still important. If i could livefire train daily i would, but i cant afford it. So its daily dryfire drills and weekly livefire. And i dont use any dryfire tool. Just an empty gun and a safe place to point it.
Yess queen get the sponsor bag
No sponsor on this one 😢
@@DeskPop sad noises soon
Dry fire train, wet fire train… I mean I personally just love moist fire training…
Wet anything 🤤
Damn. the cut off youtube short got me. Well played, sub earned,
I totally forgot there is no premiere today
No premiere is very sad. But we are still here
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@@NinjaofApathy agreed
It sounds pretty conclusive that cash is much better spent on ammo instead of the Mantis system. Appreciate the content you guys make!
We definitely will revisit it and do BOTH. I think that dry fire is not a substitute at all for live fire. But dryfire added to live fire may result in much faster times
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Literally
Appreciate the time and effort put into this.
Yeah, so essentially, this is best for shooters who are still fresh: weapon familiarity, target transitions, and first shot speed is what Mantis will improve. If you have those down already because you've been shooting drills for years, Mantis is far less useful.
Absolutely our thoughts
Subscribed - you guys earned it. We do claims testing and this is why non bias testing is important. $400 - I'd buy ammo
Thank you; we put a lot of time into this one 🫶
Nice optic and PEQ setup is it capable of warp 9?🖖
Algorithm brrrrr
Great video btw! Was considering buying the mantis system to train draw and first round on my P365
I'd consider s $20 striker activated laser from amazon for the p365
As you mentioned in the video, I think that you guys didn’t see as much of an improvement from the Mantis because you’re already used to shooting. I could definitely see Mantis improving the fundamentals for new shooters because it isolates weapon manipulations without the recoil. You can simulate semi-auto trigger pulls and resets in a way that’s more true to life without the noise and recoil that new shooters my find difficult to focus with- again, isolation.
Ofc, this practice should be supplemented with live fire bc arguably the hardest part about shooting quickly and accurately is recoil management.
Cool video guys 👍🏼
For sure, we wanted to be clear on our thought that newer shooters would see a huge benefit!! Unfortunately, we just ended up with some unusual drawbacks due to usually shooting live fire weekly.
Good to see some LGBT representation in the community
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We’re homophobic
@@DeskPop Hey me too
@@PunchingCacti king 👑
@@DeskPopgood that you are
I wonder if you didn't replace all live shooting, so recoil isn't a "surprise" after a 30-day hiatus. But teaching initial shot and marksmanship fundamentals and weapon manipulation is really good stuff that comes from dry-fire, with or without Mantis. I think this is largely validated by seeing Joe get faster and more accurate on his first post-Mantis drill every time for his three runs in that first drill. Re-learning the recoil management on top of the marksmanship practice of the Mantis got him from A-C x3 in 2.32 to all alpha in 2.09 in just three runs. That's 18 rounds total of live fire, and improvement already being seen. So I do hope you do some kind of dual-training follow-up!
Dual training follow up is coming when Mantis is replaced!!
@@DeskPop Nice! I've used my Mantis a bit. It's been nice to just have an excuse to make myself practice bringing the gun up and being on target. With four kids, I've not been the best at trying to do anything regular. I went to the range today, and I'm nowhere near the times you guys have. So I wonder how good a regularly-scheduled practice regime would help a newb like me. Thanks for the video! You guys are great.
Can you do a video with the Mantis 10X? Since it does live and dry firing, would that help more than the Blackbeard system you guys used? I've been considering it a lot recently, and want to make sure I'm getting the best thing I can for training.
The vid i needed. Thanks fellas
Anything for you GYK 😤
"From now on there are 3 ways to do things, the right way, the wrong way and the Max Powers way."
"Which is basically the wrong way"
"But faster"
Very interesting results.🤔
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
I'm doing my part
Great job
Dry fire definitely works. Especially if you use a dot.
As for Mantis, you don't NEED Mantis, but obviously it can increase feedback.
PS. There is a video of guys showing their improvement after I believe it was a week or a month of only dry fire training. If I find it, I will reference it.
Hey, this is a video of us showing our improvement after a month of dryfire.
@@DeskPop If someone mindlessly clicks the trigger for a month, they won't get much better. If someone puts in the hard work of actually focusing on shooting fundamentals with each dry shot, including bracing and positioning the body to manage recoil despite there being none, they will show up to the range a much better shooter. Not all training is equal.
@@theKashConnoisseur we shoot a LOT and know how to dry fire… recoil management is not helped with dryfire, first shot on target and transitions are…
@@DeskPop recoil management isn't helped, sure. But if you're not mindful of your body tension and position, your fundamentals of grip, then yes, your recoil management can get worse. Which seemed to be your result, right?
Love the content guys, keep it up
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Let’s gooooo!
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Love seeing that Kung Fu Grip in the wild more and more. Die Free Co!
I love them and we will try to stock their products as long as they let us!
@@DeskPop awesome grip and awesome company!
I also dry fire 😎 same but different
Hola! Members only videos? Love y'all and would genuinely support, but in my own lane rn, 7 outta most Colgate Judges agree I should be sentenced, but
Thanks for saving me some money.
Definitely not recommended for experienced shooters.
Good job
Thank you
Can you guys try this with a airsoft gun or bb gun that has recoil? Would watch the crap out of that
Would love to see what this looks like with a fairly inexperienced shooter. Someone who knows how to run a gun but does not shoot more than 10-12 times a year pre and post 30 days like this. Would love to see what that looks like for lesser experienced folks
We suspect someone who shoots less would see some major improvements.
We will work on finding someone to help us with that!
Mantis won’t be getting my money, I’m going to be cheap just like them!
Good Video, interesting how this turns out. Short Question, what do you think about Airsoft ? Did you guys participate by your self ? Maybe a plan for the next video ?:D i love you guys. And your great content:D
Joe ironically enough used to pay airsoft very seriously as a younging, sort of got him into shooting.
Honestly, Muslim events are fun but lots of airsoft now is closer to speedball compared to when it first came out!! No doubt shooting airsoft helped him when starting out with firearms
Dryfire is equal to shadow boxing. It definitely helps but its not as useful as actual sparring or shooting.
Sight acquisition improved your recoil management did not basically
Possibly yes; the lack of improvement on bill drill makes me weary to say we saw improvement on target acquisition
Cool video ....but all I wanna say is TAURUS!
Dry fire works, you need nothing but a gun and a routine.
We just did exactly that…
@@DeskPop Great, way to be an example for shooters looking to improve. Most people don’t understand how effective dry fire can be. The real secret to dry fire is being honest with your performance and not thinking every trigger press, transition, draw or reload was perfectly executed. One thing I learned was that the simplest routine was the best because you’re likely to repeat it often enough to be effective.
Buying the grip!!!!! Fuck mantis till i try one!!
They sold out so fast, I found ONE more and just restocked it 🫶😂
We will absolutely be continuing to Carry the grips, I’ve heard only positive feedback
Take off that raincoat maybe
Now do airsoft or pellet training for 30 days and see if that helps. Have to get the ones that have the action to sort of simulate recoil.
That’s a great idea actually!!
I think most shooters don’t shoot their guns
Gas blowback airsoft pistols and rifles are better training tools than dry fire.
Why does bro hide his face?? haha
Glad to know, the mantis systems are not durable
Weeeeeeeeee.
The real test would be do ZERO training for a month and see how you do. Maybe dry firing doesn’t make you better but it might help you maintain training.
Will maintain first shot likely
I hunt. Dry fire training it’s absolutely useless in that game.
Damn. You guys need to learn to shoot! Charlie's in the bushes not ruining your overall score! I think you guys are very middle of the pack, would be really cool to see what you implement that improves you from here. The basics fast.
We shoot better than most and worse than many.
Combat is really 20% shooting 80% trying to avoid conflict; but we obviously aim to improve constantly. This would be a pretty useless run if we hadn’t stopped dry firing and live firing drills to prep for it
A good marksman can shoot any gun. You make excuses and say you can't shoot because of a new grip.. sheeesh
I actually shoot better than you do so L
High over bore doesn’t exist?! Hmm 🤔, pretty sure it does.
No I’m just aiming low; height over bore MUST be a myth