SOMOGEAR vs Real Peq-15 | Is China's $250 Peq 15 "Just as good"?

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  • @Dr.Tackleberry
    @Dr.Tackleberry 6 місяців тому +120

    I have a few of the somogear PEQ clones. A few new in box. Y’all got to shoot me a text every now and then, I would have sent you a few for keeps homie.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +14

      BUY COFFEEE!!!!
      I honestly forget that we can do that for a lot of things and end up buying them all

    • @Jrude22
      @Jrude22 6 місяців тому

      is this free? maybe I can have some too?

    • @malachijamesmusic
      @malachijamesmusic 6 місяців тому +3

      Dude. Im waiting for them to get back in stock.

    • @grady719
      @grady719 6 місяців тому

      @@malachijamesmusic I can't find one in stock

    • @malachijamesmusic
      @malachijamesmusic 6 місяців тому

      @@grady719 thats what im sayin

  • @Clockwork0nions
    @Clockwork0nions 6 місяців тому +361

    People on here acting like you don’t have to re-zero your “real” PEQ every time you go to the range 😂. I carried one for years in the Army and shock, it needed to be re-zeroed regularly just like any other piece of equipment.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +88

      Yea we figured it was worth mentioning that the real ones are notorious for not holding zero perfectly 💀

    • @thepainterGabe
      @thepainterGabe 6 місяців тому +25

      Always check zero. It's almost fudd lore but I verify zero on my hunting rifle every season

    • @Clockwork0nions
      @Clockwork0nions 6 місяців тому +6

      @@DeskPop
      Yeah I appreciate it! Folks who’ve never seriously used them think it’s similar to zeroing their red dot, but let’s be honest most of the older IR laser/illuminator designs, until recently, haven’t needed to improve in that respect because they’ve been gorging themselves on a captive audience of MIL/LEO contracts. So they were ALWAYS shifting zero, luckily in the GWOT we mostly used them for focusing on things and in CQB where that didn’t matter as much.

    • @JamesStephen710
      @JamesStephen710 6 місяців тому

      that’s because real peqs suck a homeless dogs peen.

    • @breedlofam
      @breedlofam 6 місяців тому +6

      Agreed, re-zero before mission was standard practice and I can't think of more than a handful of times that everything had maintained zero.

  • @25centsapop
    @25centsapop 6 місяців тому +66

    The whispering winds of **just as good** flow by and tingle
    Also mad respect for outright saying "hey please sponsor us with NVs"

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +12

      We are painfully honest schills when we schill. It’s not an easy job but someone has to do it.

    • @CiviTac
      @CiviTac 2 місяці тому

      Dude for real that was my first thought

  • @redeye8526
    @redeye8526 6 місяців тому +53

    i sold my somogear peq 15 on ebay for $270 after seeing the Brass facts follow up video about how the body cracks by the crane plug. got a 30% discount from somogear on their new aluminum body NGAL so I payed like $290 . that thing is freaking amazing ! Its like half the size of the Peq 15 and has a better illuminator and body

    • @BigJazzHands
      @BigJazzHands 6 місяців тому +3

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Brass Facts one broke near the picatinny clamp, and isn't that part of the NGAL still plastic?

    • @redeye8526
      @redeye8526 6 місяців тому +2

      @@BigJazzHands no the peq has a metal clamp too but the body was all cheap plastic so it broke on the opposite side of the clamp where the body grabs onto your pic rail . The NGAL is all metal so no plastic on the clamp or body . 6061 alluminum i believe . plastic is fine if you use a good polymer but the somo peq15 used essentially nerf toy plastic. i had a 7000 series original Somo Peq but i believe the newer 8000 series serial number peqs use a stronger plastic now but given the choice just get the NGAL its a better unit and way less bulky

    • @goawaybaizuo
      @goawaybaizuo 6 місяців тому +3

      Brassfacts was also using a very old unit. They said they had a 3% failure rate at the housing and the mount. To address that, they made an entirely new housing that is nylon reinforced like the real ones. The unit needs to have a serial after 80k to get the new housing.

    • @jonsingleton203
      @jonsingleton203 17 днів тому

      It's nice but the invisible sight one is better and guaranteed to hold zero on 556

    • @thatdude9909
      @thatdude9909 17 днів тому

      How’d you manage a 30% discount 👀👀

  • @bagel411
    @bagel411 6 місяців тому +52

    UA-cam disregarded my selection of being notified on this.
    Still gonna comment and like. Take that algorithm!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +6

      UA-cam hates us recently… thank you!!

    • @rabidtarg
      @rabidtarg 6 місяців тому +1

      I've never had notifications for upcoming videos work well...

    • @lord-REDACTED-
      @lord-REDACTED- 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rabidtarg I bet if we were subscribed to a how to trans your kids channel, not only would we definitely get a notification, but they'd hand deliver the info.

  • @bradleybonds2113
    @bradleybonds2113 6 місяців тому +42

    I need the SomoGear Ngal to reach my final form of silly goose

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      We bought them from paragon armory, which is just a cool guy from California

    • @Kaotix_music
      @Kaotix_music 6 місяців тому +3

      the NGALs are actually really really good. Im about 3k rounds deep on mine and the zero hasnt drifted at all

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Kaotix_music clone Ngal has changed my life. No more $3k on Boxes

    • @heathkiser7782
      @heathkiser7782 6 місяців тому

      Good sir with that purchase you will be the pinnacle of silly goose…had to say that

  • @joejoeseesingtons
    @joejoeseesingtons 6 місяців тому +27

    I love my somogear. My first one mount broke and I sent it back and they sent me a new one with "updated material housing" and this one has worked great no issues

  • @joearledge1
    @joearledge1 6 місяців тому +36

    Anything that is mounted on the handguard has a pretty high chance of losing zero over a relatively short period of time, regardless of cost or quality. It's just kind of the nature of mounting stuff to a handguard...

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +3

      Hydra mount, keyed handgaurds have enter the chat

    • @TheCamaro5
      @TheCamaro5 6 місяців тому

      The jakl uses a monolithic upper unlike a ar.

    • @joearledge1
      @joearledge1 6 місяців тому +2

      @@TheCamaro5 that's better, but you're still not going to hold a precision zero with anything you mount to the handguard for multiple reasons. Material flex and thermal expansion are the 2 biggest. If the handguard is attached to the receiver and to the barrel close to the muzzle, that would help a lot, but it would mess with the barrel. For reference, very roughly, about 0.004"(thickness of a sheet of paper) movement in a sight translates to roughly about 1 MOA of change on target. The only places to mount anything for a repeatable precision zero on any ghetto blaster are: 1: directly on the barrel 2: on the receiver(not quite as good as directly on the barrel, but really really really close to it). If you're totally cool with Minute of Man (MOM) at about 100 to maybe 200, mounting on the handguard is perfectly fine. I'd firmly put lasers in that category.

    • @joearledge1
      @joearledge1 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DeskPop yeah that actually looks like the best solution if you want a laser to hold it's zero precisely and repeatedly over time. Might even be able to stretch out the laser's max effective range to 300 or 400 and keep it minute of man or tighter. Not the kind of thing I'd pick a laser for, but, it'd be cool if it could do it.

  • @afallencheetah6610
    @afallencheetah6610 6 місяців тому +62

    I guess next you need to find nigh vision for the poors next. Honestly, even if its just a single monotube or a rifle mounted solution, I'm interested to see how well it would work. The Poor Man's death trooper.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +46

      We can make Gen 2 night vision for around $1700/set
      To be honest it may be worth making a video on in the future

    • @jaydendawson4367
      @jaydendawson4367 6 місяців тому +3

      @@DeskPopplease bro

    • @bigfootgoesboom
      @bigfootgoesboom 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPopcompare that to the best digital night vision you can find

    • @pablo4yu
      @pablo4yu 6 місяців тому +3

      DUDE!! JERRY 31s!!!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +6

      @@pablo4yu $4000 for gen 2 night vision isn’t ideal tbh.
      Also idk if that constitutes “for the poors”

  • @Kaotix_music
    @Kaotix_music 6 місяців тому +13

    Both the NGAL and the Peq 15 can easily be modified to make the caps have a diffuser in them. Im a cinematographer, so I had some actual diffusion material laying around, used a razor blade to cut a small circle and split open the PEQ15 cap, replaced the black nub in there with my homemade diffuser and it works exactly liek a real diffuser cap (I think they even use the same stuff I used to make them). What you can do is get a milk jug and use that because it works exactly the same and repeat what i wrote above. For the NGAl its a litttttle different. The black nub inside looks like its sealed inside but its not. Youll see a seem on a front where if you push from there rear itll splt open and you can do the same thing (To mention: this is in terms of the illuminator for close range/CQB diffusion)
    To the mention of guys checking zeros on real ones...yes. In the army, not only do we check zero before each use of our rifles on our lasers...we check zero on EVERYTHING. Mil guys might chime in on this because when I got out and started shooting with civilians, i noticed wed go to the range and id get ready to check zeros and they would just start shooting lol. Im like "uhhh, are we not checking zeros?" and theyd say "We do we have to do that? I zeroed this last year!" and i would have a heart attack inside hahahaha. You should check your zeros before every single range day. Proves your zero is still good and you walk away from that range day knowing all your lasers and optics are ready to go for use if they need to be used. IN afghanistan we would check zeros the day before every operation aswell

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +3

      We shoot constantly and have never had a zero shift on one of our dots, but I would say that we still “confirm” zero once a month or so. Buying good quality stuff goes a long ways.
      Worth noting They also take Ngal parts so if you don’t want modify anything you can just swap Ngal diffuser on!

    • @Kaotix_music
      @Kaotix_music 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DeskPop Yes they do, sadly i wasnt ablet to find NGAL diffuser caps because i think everyones buying them up for the Somogears XD
      As to the zeroing comment...i should have phrased better...we always "CONFIRM" zero. Not just re-zero. But the way the army handles stuff thinking its totally indestructible...youd be surprised some guys aimpoints and ACOGs actually arent zeroed the next time we went to use them

    • @smnkm4ehfer
      @smnkm4ehfer 6 місяців тому

      ​@@DeskPopit should be noted that the real NGAL diffuser caps are about the price of the somogear NGAL lol

  • @UndertheTreesPNW
    @UndertheTreesPNW 6 місяців тому +10

    That civ A3 is abysmal at range. Looks like the somo really shows up the legit FP lasers in the ultra bright vis green.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +19

      CIV Peqs are abysmal in general. We only buy stolen goods

    • @UndertheTreesPNW
      @UndertheTreesPNW 6 місяців тому +2

      @@DeskPop based

  • @DanRayBeats
    @DanRayBeats 6 місяців тому +4

    8:37 my boy went into raid as a scav for this one

  • @kagan.dunlap
    @kagan.dunlap 6 місяців тому +8

    I wouldn’t mind owning a PEQ-16 but the civilian equivalent is probably overpriced if I had to guess

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +5

      Only $2200 😅

  • @thesandman9357
    @thesandman9357 6 місяців тому +5

    The black and grey pain job on the last gun is amazing. Did you do it yourself or pay someone to do it?

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      thanks! I painted it myself about two years ago now, if you set it down under NV you will lose it!!

  • @humveekid
    @humveekid 2 місяці тому +3

    I mean a real peq 15 will break against a tree. Also potted doesn't mean completely full.

  • @flaviorodriguez8594
    @flaviorodriguez8594 6 місяців тому +2

    Wow! That painting on 7:44, man, so nice!

  • @schizosaint777
    @schizosaint777 6 місяців тому +8

    Love your guys content

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      We try our best 🙏🏻 thank you!!

  • @KalashmanNC
    @KalashmanNC 2 місяці тому +1

    Had one for 2 years. Still working. Still holding zero. Obviously it’s not being abused but it is however being shit fairly regularly.
    Best thing about Somogear is they continually improve the product. If there is gripes and concerns they normally address them in the next batch.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  2 місяці тому

      I've noticed this too, every new version seems to be better.

    • @armstrong2052
      @armstrong2052 16 днів тому

      The commies won't sell any of us good robust gear. That's just prudent planning. Sleep with it in the woods. Moisture and temperatures will prove my point.

  • @derekwoods8199
    @derekwoods8199 16 днів тому

    Excellent video. Thank you for this one. This seems like a legit “cheap” solution for someone that doesn’t “need” a laser and IR but wants to play with it

  • @Zevikingbmx
    @Zevikingbmx 6 місяців тому +2

    Weird random thought but the lighting at 11:31 reminded me of like the artificial lighting of like a Wes Anderson movie or just movies when they use that fake day lighting

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      The camera we use does great work!!

  • @levimaliwauki8
    @levimaliwauki8 6 місяців тому +7

    I always check if my laser is working by looking straight into the emitter and turning it on - direct eye-laser contact is the only way to ensure your laser is working correctly. 👍🏼

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +4

      You can test the IR this same way, you will know if it’s on because you’ll stop being able to see!

  • @KrishnaMusicc
    @KrishnaMusicc 6 місяців тому +5

    been watching you guys since the IWA m13 vid. Why hasn't the algorithm blessed you yet :(

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +3

      We really mean it when we say force ur friends to watch. Unclear why we’re suppressed so hard but we just keep pushing.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 6 місяців тому

      ​@@DeskPopyou're not largely sponsored, or, part of leviathan. Which, I'm glad to see. Your bias is based on what you want. Not the whims of some agency

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      @@PureCountryof91 We are part of Leviathan at the moment. We also have shilled once for LAS (they gave us $250, but they make good holsters and we needed to buy a holster anyways) and tell everyone “hey we are schilling” or “we got this for free” because I think it’s important that you know.
      Anyone in Leviathan saying good things about bad products is simply doing it because they lack integrity and the industry punishes honest reviewers.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPop whoa. That's actually even worse.. there are some implications to what you've said here and iterated on products in the past. And, if anything, you guys deserve even more respect. Thank you for the content and entertainment guys!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      @@PureCountryof91 Thanks man, we are seriously trying to do this thing right. I spend everything I have on making these videos and the channel is not profitable. We hope that it’ll pay off.

  • @napsguns
    @napsguns 19 днів тому

    that minimal potting you mention on the one you broke open is probably conformal coating, it's like a coat of protective spray over the pcb and mounted components

  • @tasmanianduval1931
    @tasmanianduval1931 16 днів тому

    I love how everyone has a jakl now.

  • @DakotaTheRota
    @DakotaTheRota 16 днів тому

    I will never understand how Peq-15s can be more than 500 dollars, and even that is really pushing the limits.

  • @coryavelar4969
    @coryavelar4969 16 днів тому

    Surely the shift has nothing to do with removing it, mounting it to another gun and then mounting it back to the original gun.

  • @tasmanianduval1931
    @tasmanianduval1931 16 днів тому

    The sped up footage tripped me out at first xD

  • @alaskanman825
    @alaskanman825 6 місяців тому +1

    Maybe in this case instead of "buy once, cry once" it should be replaced with "buy once, then just buy again cause it's only 500 bucks"

  • @cGHunt3r
    @cGHunt3r 6 місяців тому +2

    Couple buddies and I got em when BF put the video out a year or 2 ago. They're all broken now. Mostly the mounts cracking and chipping out.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +4

      They’ve since switched to a new material, and if you reach out they’ve been known to replace them

  • @HarambesRevenge
    @HarambesRevenge 6 місяців тому +2

    I put 500 rounds through my PSA Sabre with Somogear PEQ and it didn't seem to shift significantly. Indoor range disclaimer.

  • @burner929
    @burner929 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video boys keep it coming, love the view everything is not perfect not even the brand name stuff.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      We like to show people that we are willing to spend the money before saying a product that’s cheaper is better

  • @McRawDog90
    @McRawDog90 6 місяців тому +1

    What I've done to mine is open them up and reinforce the potting because they hardly pot them lol

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      I will say the newest version of Ngal is potted extremely well

  • @depthcharge126
    @depthcharge126 6 місяців тому +1

    Just another data point, but where I did see issues was the parasitic battery drain even set to off, and the loose button plug

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      We think that was an old version, because we heard about that but haven’t experienced it at all on any of ours!

  • @nmhockey5
    @nmhockey5 6 місяців тому +2

    how can you say its off...? you took the peq off and put it on. i never have a perfect zero after put an optic back on

  • @last_raven
    @last_raven 3 місяці тому

    You can make a cheapo diffuser cap for the illuminator by replacing the black plastic with milk jug

  • @protekyerneck
    @protekyerneck 5 місяців тому +2

    You shot it on a pump 12g then removed it and re installed it on top of a sightmark and claim it’s off 3 click because of shooting

  • @dubitablykevin8299
    @dubitablykevin8299 6 місяців тому +6

    I would also like free PVS 14s for *checks notes* my UA-cam channel. For reviews and stuff. Yeah.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +5

      Yes we need them for reviews and stuff not for just looking at stars that’s fornsure

    • @thepainterGabe
      @thepainterGabe 6 місяців тому

      Think bigger; need pvs 31 and gpnvg for reviews and 'stuff'

  • @nipsy_lafett
    @nipsy_lafett 6 місяців тому +1

    The way you mount it matters. Using a hydra mount keeps it further away from the recoil

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      I just like how easy it is to find my dot with the goggles on with the Hydra

    • @InvidiousIgnoramus
      @InvidiousIgnoramus 6 місяців тому

      Keeps it further away from the bore, too. Which is retarded.

    • @Random_Quads
      @Random_Quads 6 місяців тому +3

      250 dollar laser on a 1000 dollar mount

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +3

      @@Random_Quads I think with military discount I paid like $500 shipped with magnifier mount

  • @fc3.Qisking
    @fc3.Qisking 6 місяців тому

    Glad I got mine when ppl 1st started taking about them. Seems like ppl keep saying they’re sold out lol.

  • @Ammonymity1776
    @Ammonymity1776 5 місяців тому +1

    I have been runing and testing the somogear NGAL. Coming up on about 3,000 rounds. A number of night shoots, drops and bumps. Its hasnt needed a rezero at all. Im very impressed

  • @NinjaofApathy
    @NinjaofApathy 6 місяців тому +4

    Good video +3000 social credits , you may leave your home for food today.

    • @NinjaofApathy
      @NinjaofApathy 6 місяців тому

      Oh btw. Have you seen the new Hellcat? It has 15+ 1 and 17 + 1 in a sub compact format with ambi manual saftey. Like future gen mag capacity.
      Unfortunately its a Springfield but I'm sure superior brands will compete or already competing.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      Yay!!! China is our favorite yay!

    • @InvidiousIgnoramus
      @InvidiousIgnoramus 6 місяців тому

      @@NinjaofApathy If you haven't handled one, the manual safety on the Hellcats is literally useless. It's so comically stiff left and right side it can't be used.

    • @NinjaofApathy
      @NinjaofApathy 6 місяців тому

      @@InvidiousIgnoramus is there a competitor to it for better ambi safety and mag cap?
      *Under $5 to 600

    • @InvidiousIgnoramus
      @InvidiousIgnoramus 6 місяців тому +1

      @@NinjaofApathy Running a P365XL with macro mags is probably your best bet. I've tried all the micros and the P365 is probably the only one that had a useful safety on it.

  • @SOCMMOB
    @SOCMMOB 6 місяців тому +1

    POV you buy a real FP gray market PEQ for $2500 and its asshole falls out when you remove the crane plug 😵

  • @Youknowwh0iam
    @Youknowwh0iam 6 місяців тому

    Mike broke the first airsoft game I took it out on. Windage illumination knob broke clean off (no I didn’t over turn it) still had plenty of room to turn for adjustment,

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +5

      I think I did mention my first version had garbage turrets, which is why I went to get more models to get a proper gauge of what they are. The ones we got from a newer batch are drastically different; upsettingly better quality.

    • @Youknowwh0iam
      @Youknowwh0iam 6 місяців тому +2

      @@DeskPop I got mine 4 weeks ago, used it 2 weeks ago for the first time. It broke….. maybe it wasn’t a new batch

  • @krumbers
    @krumbers 6 місяців тому +1

    awesome vid dudes. Just subbed

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      Thank you 🙏🏻 we do our best

  • @breadm8101
    @breadm8101 2 місяці тому

    I think it depends on batch. Mine has held up and I know people with similar experience. Others have seen cracks

  • @kevcajoux3941
    @kevcajoux3941 3 місяці тому

    Why does this feel like I’m watching a Rick And Morty parody ad

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  3 місяці тому

      No clue; this was a very expensive video

  • @Mmoooossee
    @Mmoooossee 29 днів тому

    You forgot to add a helicopter landing pad on that rifle. Geeze so many accessories. lol. You are the universal solider. lol. I’m jk. I too love accessories. Might add a donut holder on my ar.

  • @FaustianDaydreams
    @FaustianDaydreams 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m honestly considering one of the ngals over a “real” laser.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      After seeing these against “real” lasers we’ve determined these are real lasers

    • @no-sway3709
      @no-sway3709 6 місяців тому

      Mine has held zero on an mp5 just fine. The button placement is just stupid though.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      @@no-sway3709 the button placement is exactly where the real ones are

    • @no-sway3709
      @no-sway3709 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPop right. Button placement on both is kind of aids

  • @BasedF-15Pilot
    @BasedF-15Pilot 26 днів тому

    @07:44 Bro has scaffolding on top of his weapon.

  • @smnkm4ehfer
    @smnkm4ehfer 6 місяців тому

    I personally really like my NGAL. It may not be "just as good" maybe it is, but it'll do until i can find a grey market NGAL or order one in on a buddy's agencies letterhead 😅

  • @Senator-Wary
    @Senator-Wary 11 днів тому

    I just want one for my PS90 it think it would look great

  • @Nontacticalboy
    @Nontacticalboy 6 місяців тому

    I got the FMA version, which costs around the same directly from china. Its being performing really good, ive never had to re zeroed mine, but then i only shoot close distance. The only issue is the battery spring i assume, cos it flickers sometimes, all i did was use a small magnet and stick it at the positive part of the battery, and its all good. No more issues.

    • @MH_6160
      @MH_6160 6 місяців тому

      Rubber o ring… problem solved.

    • @Nontacticalboy
      @Nontacticalboy 6 місяців тому

      @MH_6160 O-ring didnt work for me. It further prevents contact of the battery.

  • @shortbusshenanigans
    @shortbusshenanigans 6 місяців тому +1

    How did you mount the PEQ to the shotgun? @8:36, anyway great vid, love your channel!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      Our barrel clamp has a pic rail- you can find them on Amazon pretty easy!!

  • @bradlowther8425
    @bradlowther8425 6 місяців тому

    If a name brand product is made in china they sell the specs and make off brand version and sell it cheaper some one made a video on dots and explained this kinda hilarious tbh

  • @2bNIKEt1
    @2bNIKEt1 6 місяців тому +1

    Whats that pressure pad mount for your Gucci/NGAL rifle??? Definitely makes me wonder about running a slimmer non/1913 upper rail

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      Their pressure pad actually comes with an M-Lok adapter so I’m running that.
      It’ll also take any real Ngal parts/switches you find onljne

  • @dash8_music
    @dash8_music 5 місяців тому +1

    Why are you guys ripping off the intro from Trex but adding your logo lol. The audio is the exact same.

  • @riflemanm16a2
    @riflemanm16a2 5 місяців тому

    When did John Carmack start a gun channel?!

  • @Boom-eo8ht
    @Boom-eo8ht 6 місяців тому

    Awesome video, if you haven’t could you do a video on the best “poor man’s” knockoff NVG

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately for us right now, anything non-digital is only getting more and more expensive!!
      We make less than $60/video off UA-cam ads so unless we can get a company to send us the Nods it will be awhile before we can purchase them just to review. Tell your favorite companies to send us stuff 😭😂

  • @ImpalaZac
    @ImpalaZac 6 місяців тому

    I got a “Ade Advanced Optics Tactical Green IR Laser Combo” off Amazon for $109 like a year ago so far it’s been alright😂 holds zero from what I’ve noticed but I’ll definitely be looking to switch to one of these somogear ones because that ADE is just to bulky and the mounting screw has about stripped out from moving it from 1 rifle to another. Totally would never just switch to somogear because they look way better or anything. 👀 Real night vision vs the cheapy digital Chinese monocular I have and a real laser system would be nice in the future but to be able to see and aim at night for under $1000 is better than not being able to at all for me atleast.

  • @christiansteinberg7069
    @christiansteinberg7069 6 місяців тому +1

    Wadsn lasers are also amazing for 230 bucks

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      We have heard of them but haven’t gotten hands on any to test

  • @SirArcticPB
    @SirArcticPB 6 місяців тому +1

    Lol crazy how it's for airsoft. But most if not all fields ban the lazer. Because it causes damage to the eyes that their insurance can't afford 😂. So, if it's labeled for Airsoft, it's mostly just a get around title.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      Yea please no one use this for airsoft you can blind people

  • @M3thodbombz
    @M3thodbombz 5 місяців тому

    I love the level of Larp

  • @georgevanblaricum8917
    @georgevanblaricum8917 6 місяців тому +1

    Undeniably not as good as the real deal, but it’s hard to argue with $200 for a lam

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      Idk man, we compared them very directly and it’s pretty obviously brighter than the real deal. The aluminum Ngal is peak

  • @EhvanTea
    @EhvanTea 6 місяців тому

    JEEZ the diffustion filter is so much lol, fire video though

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      It’s just the way we do

  • @Dirt_Rover2030
    @Dirt_Rover2030 6 місяців тому

    @deskpop
    PLEASE do an update about how waterproof (or lack there of) the unit may be!!!
    No one is testing to see how much these units can stand water intrusion.
    For the love of all that is good. Someone please test these and see if they can withstand any liquid intrusion!!!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      Yea we will find out; not sure it’s worth a UA-cam video so we will test one and throw it on the gram

    • @Dirt_Rover2030
      @Dirt_Rover2030 6 місяців тому

      I will follow you on Instagram too and look for it!!!

  • @LowQuatsSquats7529
    @LowQuatsSquats7529 6 місяців тому +2

    Damn missed the premier

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      We are here for you still

    • @LowQuatsSquats7529
      @LowQuatsSquats7529 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DeskPop I appreciate you 😘

  • @Gator412pgh
    @Gator412pgh 6 місяців тому

    I love fast motion Joe !!😘

  • @CAPTAINNMORGANN
    @CAPTAINNMORGANN 6 місяців тому

    I bought one and still havent zeroed yet... mine also is not as bright i dont believe :( Great video though i enjoy watching your videos.🤝

  • @majmarkmiranda
    @majmarkmiranda 6 місяців тому

    I spent just under 2k on my night vision set up I used the metal somogear and bought two sightmark wraiths and I never use them lol

  • @granitejeepc3651
    @granitejeepc3651 5 місяців тому

    how can you check the accuracy when you dont have an actual sight mounted and you need to be resting it at 100m minimum.....you have a Jakyl piston type hence all the heat stays forward..either run gloves or a tommy grip or both

  • @death31313
    @death31313 6 місяців тому

    I'm just going to guess, is it just as good? No, but it's good enough to maybe be worth grabbing one or two.

  • @TacticonArmament
    @TacticonArmament 6 місяців тому

    Will you throw me like that peq? 👉👈

  • @MegaBeast18
    @MegaBeast18 2 місяці тому

    *Standing shot holding the gun canted at 7 yards with no point of reference, gun swinging around in the wind and a laser dot thats the size of a golf ball on the target*
    "oh he'll yeah bro thats zeroed!"

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  2 місяці тому

      Your ignorance is really showing here dude…

    • @MegaBeast18
      @MegaBeast18 2 місяці тому

      @@DeskPop How is that ignorant exactly? That could have shifted 1/2", and you'd have no idea. How would that look at 1,2,500 yards? Is it to ignorant to suggest a 5 shot grouping at 100 before and after?

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  2 місяці тому

      @@MegaBeast18 you aren’t using an IR or Vis laser out to 2000yards.

    • @MegaBeast18
      @MegaBeast18 2 місяці тому

      @@DeskPop I never said 2000 yards..?

  • @christiansteinberg7069
    @christiansteinberg7069 6 місяців тому +4

    Nvg 10, Amazon Wilcox, etsy nvg 10 mount, rhino mount from eBay, ach helmet, or light with mount. Nvg for poors about 800 dollars

  • @jakemiles8070
    @jakemiles8070 6 місяців тому +1

    Do you guys have a link to these?!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      We don’t have a fancy link but we purchased from somogear direct and Paragon Armory

  • @vik12D
    @vik12D 2 місяці тому

    NGAL? The 3.5k laser? Ouch.

  • @Protectiveedgetraining
    @Protectiveedgetraining 6 місяців тому

    Aren’t you also mounting it on different heights so technically it will have a normal shift between the jakl and the higher mount.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      We mounted the PEQ and slaved it to the sightmark before shooting with it on the shotgun; we re mounted it in the same place and looked through the optic to see any shift

    • @Protectiveedgetraining
      @Protectiveedgetraining 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPop got it, Thanks. I’m considering trying em out. Thanks for the review.

  • @InvidiousIgnoramus
    @InvidiousIgnoramus 6 місяців тому

    How are those Kung-Fu Grips, Joe? Got me curious.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      I love them, but I am also extremely partial because we well them to find the channel

  • @604cpr
    @604cpr 3 місяці тому

    I think I’d rather buy 12 Somo NGAL’s than one ‘real’ one.. not that I can even buy a real one in Canada because muh ITAR

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  3 місяці тому +1

      Nailed it.

  • @MegaGearz
    @MegaGearz 6 місяців тому +1

    that price cant be right i am seeing ngal for 3 grand most places. am i looking up the wrong product

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      Somogear Ngal
      They’re going to be out of stock for the month because of Chinese New year

  • @user-tx5rr9wl8n
    @user-tx5rr9wl8n Місяць тому

    You by chance have the website for these tryin to check one out for myself

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  Місяць тому +1

      @@user-tx5rr9wl8n paragon airsoft

  • @DjRayRay09
    @DjRayRay09 6 місяців тому

    I guess I’m ignorant to the rifle world since I’m a pistol/shotgun guy but I’m just not understanding why a laser is that expensive? And why would infrared be practical for civilian use? There are so many on the market now that function very well and hold zero very well at a fraction of the cost.

    • @matthewscheels5382
      @matthewscheels5382 3 місяці тому +2

      These laser aiming modules are specifically for use under night vision, hence the IR. The visible laser is slaved to the IR laser so when you zero the visible one, the IR laser is also zerod. The IR illuminator helps for distance shooting under NV.

    • @DjRayRay09
      @DjRayRay09 3 місяці тому

      @@matthewscheels5382 sounds awesome 🤩 I suppose it makes sense if you have use for it,, just can’t believe the price point for IR

  • @R-Y-N
    @R-Y-N 3 місяці тому

    @3:49 i feel violated

  • @dopedank
    @dopedank 6 місяців тому

    i like how this video was posted 3 days ago and somo is out of stock on everything.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      I swear they were in stock from paragon and Somo when we posted

  • @baubowers2529
    @baubowers2529 6 місяців тому +2

    Hydra mount detected opinion rejected

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      It’s okay to be poor

  • @appallokelley3207
    @appallokelley3207 6 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @Miniscapes515
    @Miniscapes515 6 місяців тому +1

    Most guys buying these dont even have nods

  • @ryanbv3139
    @ryanbv3139 6 місяців тому

    18:30 bigfoot is behind you.

  • @SWZ32TT
    @SWZ32TT 6 місяців тому +3

    To be fair... I've seen a lot of real PEQ-15's break like that from way less aggressive drops. Lol. Hell. Real PEQ-15's cases split if you tighten them too much. And for what it's worth the earlier somo peq's (i think serial numbers under 8000?) Like the first gen one you broke were made with a different plastic that wasn't super tough. The newer ones are supposedly made out of the same material real peqs are and are tougher. That all being said... I wouldn't expect my real peq to survive a yeet into a tree like that. I watched a guy carrying too many M4's into the arms room simply drop one from waist level and the peq on it absolutely exploded... looked similar to that somo after... only tanner... and more expensive. Just my 5 cents. Solid review though.

    • @rekerboi1125
      @rekerboi1125 6 місяців тому

      The material is not the same as real PEQs, please don't spread misinformation.

    • @SWZ32TT
      @SWZ32TT 6 місяців тому

      @@rekerboi1125 that is their claim and the heresay of people who purchase them. And it is only fir the newest release of their PEQ15. Regardless that wouldn't be saying much. Real PEQ-15's are basically as fragile as toys anyways. So it's not really a testament to the quality of the real PEQ15 lol.

    • @rekerboi1125
      @rekerboi1125 6 місяців тому

      @SWZ32TT real PEQ15s are insanely durable, you can't compare the quality between the two because it is unmatched. Yes, they're both polymer so the rail cracks on both, but that is literally the extent of similarities.

    • @SWZ32TT
      @SWZ32TT 6 місяців тому

      @@rekerboi1125 insanely durable? Not even close. Real PEQ's break pretty regularly. They aren't the god's send of LAMs by any means. It's just that most people who blew a mortgage payment on a real PEQ probably don't feel comfortable yeeting theirs against a tree to test their durability. I've worked with real PEQ15's and various other LAMs pretty much daily for the past almost 15 years. I can't even begin to count the number I have seen absolutely destroyed by simple things like barely overtightening them, dropping from waist height, or even just tipping over when the weapon was leaned against a wall. And not just the mounting point of the case... but also the front of the housing that holds the laser diodes as well as the back where the battery cap is. They are likely more durable than the somogears, but probably not enough to justify the insane price gap you'll pay for a grey market FP PEQ-15 that nobody will honor a warranty on or repair. I get paying for quality, but the DOD acquisitions and contracting system really doesn't encourage reasonable or even justifiable pricing... and as a civilian you'll pay even more than the DOD does (who basically acts like a teenager with a limitless credit card). I would 100% expect one of my service PEQ-15's to absolutely explode if I chucked my weapon against a tree like that, lol. I've watched them virtually shatter from way less pretty regularly and just get tagged and thrown in a tote with the rest of the deadlined ones.

  • @ItachiUchiha-tf4pk
    @ItachiUchiha-tf4pk 2 місяці тому

    Where can i get one?

  • @Pnpjb
    @Pnpjb 6 місяців тому

    The LA-23 is dope

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому

      It goes so hard I finally found another one and overpaid for it

    • @Pnpjb
      @Pnpjb 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPop luckily we have an endless supply for free at work so I don’t have that problem haha

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      @@Pnpjb tactical acquire as many as you can for your UA-cam friends 🫶

  • @danielhess39
    @danielhess39 6 місяців тому

    This is the way

  • @isac20
    @isac20 6 місяців тому

    Most of the things are sold by the manufacturer (china) at a smaller profit, just without the famous name brand.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      The markup in American defense markets is out of control for sure

  • @brysonliles1857
    @brysonliles1857 6 місяців тому +1

    Anyone know a website for the $500 metal one

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      Paragon Armory or direct from Somogear. When I said they’re impossible to get right now I meant it.:.

  • @xu2wk8uj9p
    @xu2wk8uj9p 5 місяців тому

    I think you need to tighten your helmet. That camera making it sag to one side bad. 😂

  • @reganabraham5136
    @reganabraham5136 5 місяців тому

    is there a mwal as good as this ?

  • @JJH0326
    @JJH0326 5 місяців тому

    The ar at 11 minutes is overgassed.

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  5 місяців тому

      Runs like a top, no reason to change the gas settings

  • @__leo__1415
    @__leo__1415 6 місяців тому

    Treat yall selves to some dual tube infra-jerries my dudes. Coldharbour supply has them for $4500

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +2

      I have literally $12

    • @__leo__1415
      @__leo__1415 6 місяців тому

      @@DeskPop Make it a "business loan"

  • @TheAnytony
    @TheAnytony 6 місяців тому

    Why is green laser preferred over red?

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      Daylight visibility; easier to pickup in daylight conditions

  • @nabby119
    @nabby119 6 місяців тому +1

    How do you like the 4t pro?

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      I love it. Sig giving us the option for four dots is ahead of its time, makes the 5X I have behind it much more useable

    • @nabby119
      @nabby119 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DeskPop I like that aspect of it for sure. Im between a t2 and 4t pro right now. Do you think it rivals or beats a t2 at this point? My biggest concern of it is durability which only time will tell and the advantage that aimpoint has right now

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      @@nabby119 if Christian Craighead can run a Romeo 4H to slot some dudes I feel plenty confident with my 4T pro. I’ve also slammed and continue to slam all my guns around to make sure I break anything that I can and the 4T pro is holding up extremely well
      I think Aimpoint is very outdated at this point; they’re extremely good dots but there is zero “fluff” about them.

    • @nabby119
      @nabby119 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DeskPop awesome, I appreciate the feedback on it. I also found this video and channel in my feed randomly and subscribed from it, so keep up the cool work!

    • @DeskPop
      @DeskPop  6 місяців тому +1

      @@nabby119 that’s good to hear! Thanks for subscribing!!!