Other companies need to take note! - Fairphone Fairbuds XL

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @PhilipeGamer
    @PhilipeGamer Рік тому +122

    Here in Brazil we have a headphone called Kuba Disco and it's from a local company. It's a fully modular headset, and you can swap and fix everything like the drivers, ear cups, cables, and even the headband. In 2023 they will launch a headband with a bluetooth module and if you already have the headset, you can only buy the bluetooth headband.
    Plus it's a good headphone and musicians love it.

    • @otalbigua
      @otalbigua Рік тому

      Came here to see anyone citing kuba disco :)

    • @CarlosLins1
      @CarlosLins1 Рік тому +1

      It's really great, have mine for 2 years

    • @otalbigua
      @otalbigua Рік тому

      I've bought the Bluetooth version on preorder

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc Рік тому

      Dam son. Thanks for this.!

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 Рік тому

      Wow!

  • @Sassi7997
    @Sassi7997 Рік тому +41

    Small correction on the price:
    European retail prices always include VAT which is - depending on the country - somewhere around 15% and 27%, on average 20% VAT.
    That means the Fairbuds XL would cost 250€ incl. VAT, 208€ excl. VAT, or USD 225 plus your local sales tax.

    • @einstijn138
      @einstijn138 Рік тому +6

      Completely correct. They should mention this in the video.
      In this case it's a Dutch company, so 21% VAT. That makes it €205.79 or $220.82.

  • @BattleBear96
    @BattleBear96 Рік тому +1257

    A latency test for a Windows machine would be awesome

    • @BladeWalker91
      @BladeWalker91 Рік тому +44

      I doubt they are good for competitive FPS, if they don't advertise low latency they probably weren't going for it

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x Рік тому +42

      I think any bluetooth audio device is going to have latency problems unless a low latency codec is used? IDK, that's how it was back in the day. You had to use aptx low latency, otherwise there would be sync problems. I also remember that Apple devices will automatically fix the sync issues in music and videos, but I don't think it worked well for gaming,

    • @Not_Sure-i6o
      @Not_Sure-i6o Рік тому +38

      They claim analog audio is possible over the usb-c (cables not included)

    • @itslaredo6771
      @itslaredo6771 Рік тому

      Ye

    • @BattleBear96
      @BattleBear96 Рік тому +3

      @@DarkTrapStudio Intel AX200 has quite a wide adoption i think (my notebook and my ASUS Crosshair Impact use this wireless chipset)

  • @Zetraxes
    @Zetraxes Рік тому +492

    The beginning where you explained why names are irrelevant and full of marketing deception was amazing keep up the great videos

    • @PoringPoring951
      @PoringPoring951 Рік тому +4

      If I can upvote your comments twice, I would up vote thrice. Well said.

    • @pandasdreamlygon
      @pandasdreamlygon Рік тому

      worst annoying voice

    • @coleG112
      @coleG112 Рік тому +1

      It’s always felt *particularly* irrelevant and deceptive in audio-related markets tbh

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb Рік тому +16

      When there's a term
      There's a term
      If you use a term incorrectly
      You are either intentionally misleading, or you are just bad
      In both cases, that reflects on the quality of the products, as in, lying = bad.

    • @9an13l
      @9an13l Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sinaebtelling us you're on the spectrum without telling us you're on the spectrum

  • @MegaDmanX
    @MegaDmanX Рік тому +481

    Oh boy, I hope the 3D printing community finds out about these, it would be awesome to see what people come up with 😮

    • @aronseptianto8142
      @aronseptianto8142 Рік тому +21

      there's already a 3D printable headphone kit, it's mostly wired tho

    • @Detank2002
      @Detank2002 Рік тому +4

      Trust me dude they will

    • @2nd3rd1st
      @2nd3rd1st Рік тому +9

      Transparent parts!

    • @GinsuSher
      @GinsuSher Рік тому +3

      3d printed headphones or replacement parts already exist.

    • @GonnerMeLeggies
      @GonnerMeLeggies Рік тому +2

      Yeah my wife constantly breaks her headphones. Any of them that I can 3d print parts for would save me a fortune

  • @jordi95
    @jordi95 Рік тому +70

    The easy to replace battery is a Huge Plus , you can buy a 2nd one and have it charged and just change the battery when it gets low

    • @erikpoephoofd
      @erikpoephoofd 9 місяців тому

      Or just recharge it once a while?

    • @jamztiberius68
      @jamztiberius68 8 місяців тому +1

      If you have two just swap the headphones. Why bother with the battery?

    • @erikpoephoofd
      @erikpoephoofd 8 місяців тому +1

      Carrying a loose battery is a bad idea. If it shorts, you've got a fire. Just carry a powerbank and charge the headphones. Just a few minutes on the powerbank will give you hours of juice.

    • @jordi95
      @jordi95 8 місяців тому

      @@erikpoephoofd Just the fact that you cab change the battery whenever you want makes the headphones las much longer, changing the battery on a headphone which hasn't been designed for it is a hassle

    • @erikpoephoofd
      @erikpoephoofd 8 місяців тому

      @@jordi95 Yeah it's an absolute game changer for product longevity and should be widely celebrated! Swapping it on the go just doesn't have that many advantages over topping the battery off quickly with a powerbank

  • @Sivah_Akash
    @Sivah_Akash Рік тому +1349

    Fun fact: Keeping my current "non-sustainable" headphones is more sustainable than buying a new sustainable headphone!

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Рік тому +77

      Don’t buy a Fairphone then, because they removed their 3.5mm headphone jack to force you into buying new headphones.

    • @odeiraoloap
      @odeiraoloap Рік тому +88

      ​@@gotoastal instead of buying a *3.5mm to type C adapter* that you can take on and off so you can use it on LITERALLY ANY DEVICE with a Type C port? Isn't that a win-win for usability with ancient stuff with a 3.5 port and new stuff without?

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Рік тому +154

      @@odeiraoloap By “ancient” you mean “simple & reliable”? You don’t need anything as complex as USB-C to just deliver audio. It’s not like there is a quality, bandwidth, or latency limitation that warrants a upgrade to the spec like moving from USB 1.0 up to USB4 when it comes to the signal.
      It can have the advantage when the built-in DAC is low quality, but there are still two objections I have to this. 1) many devices, especially phones, only offer 1 USB-C port and this can often times make you choose between audio or power delivery while older devices don’t have USB-C at all even if they function fine (since the topic is sustainability). 2) audio is such a primary peripheral that it’s ubiquity has carried the jack across decades, and being as small and cheap as it is to include, there hasn’t been much of a reason to seek an alternative. The current push for USB-C was fabricated by phone manufacturers; they don’t take up a lot of space, they’re not difficult to waterproof, they allow users to continue using their perfectly fine current hardware--but it _does_ give manufacturers an excuse to artificially force users to buy new products.

    • @jashelps
      @jashelps Рік тому +71

      @@odeiraoloap These have been proven over and over to break easily/break your port easily as this was not what the usb c port was made for.
      The 3.5mm jack has been designed to be EXTREMELY durable hence why its a cylinder that can rotate to relieve one of the biggest forms of cable stress that wrecks usb c headphone adapter

    • @LuminousSpace
      @LuminousSpace Рік тому +3

      so true, using my shp for 3 years now, i guess it is sustainable

  • @rikwisselink-bijker
    @rikwisselink-bijker Рік тому +69

    One important thing to note is that European companies (almost) always show prices including VAT, because that is what you will pay as a consumer. As far as I'm aware Murrica is one of the few places that shows prices without VAT as a default.
    So that price will probably be lower than just the conversion, depending on the VAT of the place you order.

    • @Thatoneguy-o7805
      @Thatoneguy-o7805 Рік тому +3

      That's partly because it varies widely. Each state sets it's own base level and counties within a state can add on top of that.
      For instance I can pay between 6% and 8% within an few hours drive.

    • @einstijn138
      @einstijn138 Рік тому +7

      Yeah they should mention that. The €249 includes 21% VAT, so excl. tax it's €205.79 or $220.82, instead of the $270 metioned in the video

    • @Kokurorokuko
      @Kokurorokuko 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Thatoneguy-o7805then why doesn't this apply to Europe?

  • @Nubrigtube
    @Nubrigtube Рік тому +47

    Can I just say how sensible the joystick is for headphones instead of any touch oriented navigation? Having had similar headphones (Urbanears Pampas) with a joystick for controls is something I've wanted other companies to use as well. Especially if the joystick itself is repairable/replaceable. Physical controls will always be better than touch controls.

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 Рік тому +1

      So true! I have a pair from Sony and the touch part is not great. It's easy to change track instead of volume, and the holding of your whole hand over one of the cups to get a fast transparency mode is a good idea in theory but when it keeps activating when I lay on my side it's just annoying!

    • @josephpmcl1241
      @josephpmcl1241 Рік тому +1

      Agreed, touch controls are annoying and an unnecessary technology in headphone controls, especially when buttons are so handy

    • @opticalmoose8091
      @opticalmoose8091 Рік тому

      I thought this feature was exclusive to Marshall on/over-ears. Truly awesome UX with a little joystick knob.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Рік тому +309

    Considering the price, I was honestly expecting a little better when it came to noise canceling. But I do appreciate how easily repairable it is.

    • @lilyemma3382
      @lilyemma3382 Рік тому +105

      unfortunately making sustainable devices is much much more complicated and much more expensive than normal products, and so is making products as a much smaller company. they're just not able to match the performance of other headphones at this price, the same as the fairphone is nowhere near the performance and quality of other phones at that price sadly

    • @jono6379
      @jono6379 Рік тому +8

      I do wonder if they will offer upgrades in the future. Could be cool to see them iterate and offer some improved drivers or better ear pads.

    • @autodidact7127
      @autodidact7127 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jono6379did you hear it?

    • @DOGMA1138
      @DOGMA1138 Рік тому +14

      @@lilyemma3382 These products aren't sustainable in any way, they had major design flaws with FP1 and instead of fixing them and providing replacement motherboards they just quickly discontinued it, FP2 replacement parts were also quickly discontinued. For FP3 and FP4 only a handful of replacement parts are available and for things that usually do not get damaged, there are no replacement motherboards available and not schematics you have to use their repair service if you need to replace a motherboard. The price for most replacement parts is also pretty atrocious even when compared to iPhones.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +14

      Get a pair of Beyerdynamic or Sennheiser. They have manuals and official replacement parts as well.

  • @serabc98
    @serabc98 Рік тому +244

    It's nice to see a repairable bluetooth headphones, but being honest if you want an long lasting, more environment friendly headphones, a good wired one are the best. Less parts to break an good sound that you can use for decades.

    • @papervws
      @papervws Рік тому +28

      for sure. I use IEM’s (in ear monitors) with detachable cables, and I attach them to a bluetooth receiver. That way both the cable and the bluetooth receiver can be replaced separately if the battery goes bad - means I shouldn’t have to buy actual new buds for a very long time.

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Рік тому +37

      But Fairphone removed the 3.5mm headphone jack on their phones for “sustainability” 🤡

    • @odeiraoloap
      @odeiraoloap Рік тому +14

      That's not going to fix the *UNsustainable* and earth-destroying way CURRENT bluetooth earbuds/phones are being made, similar to how FairPHONE is trying to change the unsustainable and earth-destroying smartphone manufacturing process.
      Also, it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to have wired earphones and have good *active noise cancellation.* You're gonna have to put a battery on the thing to power the ANC-ing microphones, it's only one step away from turning them into bluetooth cans.

    • @Stiegelzeine
      @Stiegelzeine Рік тому

      @@odeiraoloap it is if everyone would use wired there would be no e-waste and imagine being such a sheep that you believe „fair“phone even tries to change it they only care about money because they’re capitalist scums

    • @jameshasseriousedoubtsabou560
      @jameshasseriousedoubtsabou560 Рік тому +12

      True! Wired headphones are also so easy to repair. Recently replaced the headband, ear cups and cable on my dt880s and now they are good for another 7+ years

  • @arethunessamsonsen6245
    @arethunessamsonsen6245 Рік тому +99

    I reviewed these last week, and gave them 8 out of 10. Also, note that many headphones' ANC will let human voices through by design, so people can talk to you while the ANC is on. Also, all the parts are available as spare parts, except for the circuit board, so you canæ't build it yourself.

    • @jonathancormack
      @jonathancormack Рік тому +5

      Who are you?

    • @reddwhite4376
      @reddwhite4376 Рік тому +4

      Can we read or watch that review?

    • @arethunessamsonsen6245
      @arethunessamsonsen6245 Рік тому +4

      @@jonathancormack Norwegian tech journbalist.

    • @rydude998
      @rydude998 Рік тому +18

      What are you talking about "by design"? No one wants ANC that allows human voices to pass through, the entire point is to noise-cancel ambient chatter not just low-frequency hums on an airplane.

    • @timschulz9563
      @timschulz9563 Рік тому +3

      ​@@rydude998 That's definitely a feature and not a bug! /s

  • @jono6379
    @jono6379 Рік тому +28

    Id like to see graphs in future show how eq presets affect the sound curve.

    • @corgistaniel1150
      @corgistaniel1150 Рік тому +8

      Same, right now we don't even know which preset the FR graph represents

  • @HUKJR
    @HUKJR Рік тому +97

    This already existed for years: Repeat Audio (formerly called Gerrard Street) which even comes with a lifetime free replacement parts warranty and you can send them back your old parts to be recycled. Source: I got one straight from the beginning and have already had two ear cups replacement so far. :)

    • @joz534
      @joz534 Рік тому +6

      thanks for mentioning them. Company, and product, look very interesting.
      Definitivelly will consider them.

    • @tjeulink
      @tjeulink Рік тому +35

      thats a different product though. no fairtrade parts, no recycling, removable battery, etc. and no IP rating.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +8

      Also Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser. You can still get replacement parts from headphones you bought in 1980

    • @tjeulink
      @tjeulink Рік тому +7

      @@Entertainment- you're compating passive things to active noise canceling wireless headphones. Its a bit apples to oranges.

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc Рік тому +1

      🏅🏅 take this poor man gold. awsome sugestion.

  • @phoenux3986
    @phoenux3986 Рік тому +34

    Honestly, these seem pretty great. I'd be willing to pay a bit of a premium for a pair of headphones even if they weren't the best at their price range just for the repairability factor. I've had so many headphones give out on me that just ended up sitting around the house or straight into the trash it's ridiculous. Plus supporting the concept of better repairability/reusing resources is always a huge plus in my book

    • @phoenux3986
      @phoenux3986 Рік тому +2

      Though the lack of an actual eq is a bit disppointing. Hopefully that gets added soon.

    • @alessandrolira4035
      @alessandrolira4035 Рік тому +1

      Then don’t buy fairphone then. Building one one these crap Bluetooth fairphones is far less environmentally friendly than just adding a headphone jack in. Which is something they removed to get you to buy these to think you’re “helping” the environment. But it just becomes a more contrived way of NOT doing that...

    • @sporemaster97
      @sporemaster97 11 місяців тому +1

      @@alessandrolira4035 You can use the Type C connector to use them as a wired set though. Windows natively supports Type C audio, as my mobo has a C port, and I connected a C to 3.5mm adapter just to see and it immediately worked as an output. Worst case you get a USB A to C adapter, oh no, the horror.

  • @radimbastan
    @radimbastan Рік тому +10

    The Needle Drop reference was unexpected :D

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x Рік тому +136

    They missed a huge opportunity to call them "Fairpods" LOL...Apple would've been so mad :D

    • @KptnAutismus
      @KptnAutismus Рік тому +3

      My idea would be "Fairphones"

    • @Supermath101
      @Supermath101 Рік тому +24

      ​@@KptnAutismusHard to distinguish that naming scheme from their main product.

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x Рік тому +1

      @@Supermath101 What do you mean? Apple’s products? Yeah I know. Lawsuit in the making. Still would’ve been hilarious. And since they don’t even sell to the North American market anyway, maybe it would have worked.

    • @Supermath101
      @Supermath101 Рік тому +6

      @surgeyX I was referring to the first reply to your comment. "Fairphones" (headphones) sounds too similar to the "Fairphone" (smartphone).

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x Рік тому +1

      @@Supermath101 Oh

  • @ch4.hayabusa
    @ch4.hayabusa Рік тому +4

    7:30 "I love talking. I'm not going too stop talking. You cannot stop me from talking"
    -Jake, LTT 2023

  • @NFMorley
    @NFMorley Рік тому +100

    To be fair, a lot of higher end headphones are quite repairable and have widely available parts. For example, I've repaired sets from Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser in the past, and they both had pretty extensive varieties of parts available for reasonable prices (inc older models too).

    • @konishiwoi
      @konishiwoi Рік тому +21

      Yeah but those (your senn and Beyer) are not the same market as beats, boses, Sony whx0392919 and stuff, which are a pain to repair tho possible only thanks to the sheer amount of units in circulation

    • @thaddaeusareswolf
      @thaddaeusareswolf Рік тому +25

      I mean beats, Sony and bouse costs about the same as most Sennheiser and Beyer headphones. Yeah the highest end costs like 600+ but most are in the 150-450 range same as Sony etc. Sony could make them repairable they just don't. Heck Sennheisers drop headphones are $200 and are amazing for their price and are repairable.

    • @Smothtiger
      @Smothtiger Рік тому

      When it comes to modular design to headphones, TMA-2 by aiaiai comes to mind. Quite a few parts to make it to your liking. I have yet not found if the wireless module has replacable battery like Fairphone has on the XL. Battery usually the part that dies first in my wireless headphones.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar Рік тому +1

      @@Smothtiger The battery is also the most dangerous part of the product. If you screw it up replacing it or use a less than reputable replacement it can explode or set on fire... I don't have to explain why that's a bad thing when it's in your years or on your head.

    • @ruekurei88
      @ruekurei88 Рік тому +4

      Yup, along with extensive documentation on mods as well for more popular headphones and brands. I just use bluetooth receivers with my wired headphones. Basically anyone can fix a headphone, a bluetooth one is going to be more tricky depending on what's actually wrong.

  • @takatatsura
    @takatatsura Рік тому +11

    Even though some companies that do this already exists for a while, it's important to have a more "know" one do this kind of product. Also, if you're from Brazil (or have a way to buy from there) there is a company called Kuba Audio that makes a headphone like this (no ANC sadly and the wireless version is very recent yet).

  • @jriver226
    @jriver226 Рік тому +41

    LMG with labs should start working on a green rating for products to tell us how green packing and product are

  • @Tman20rox
    @Tman20rox Рік тому +8

    One interesting thing is if in the future they’d sell parts so you can upgrade the headphones. Kinda like how with a framework you can upgrade the motherboard and stuff. Maybe you use them for 5 years and somethings wrong with the sound and instead of just buying the replacement part you buy the better quality replacement part.

    • @LutraLovegood
      @LutraLovegood Рік тому +1

      Audio hasn't changed much in the last 50 years, so don't expect much better 5 years down the line.

  • @franzferdinand5810
    @franzferdinand5810 Рік тому +206

    God, I love how much Adam has grown. He has full on Linus energy now

    • @TR-qf2gt
      @TR-qf2gt Рік тому +10

      and even drops TheNeedleDrop references full on lol 😅

    • @TheNiteNinja19
      @TheNiteNinja19 Рік тому +6

      I would imagine the workplace atmosphere is positive like that and it's probably very contagious.

    • @esond
      @esond Рік тому +1

      You have no idea.

    • @ferrousmcgarrus3431
      @ferrousmcgarrus3431 Рік тому +3

      This comment is creepy.

    • @TR-qf2gt
      @TR-qf2gt Рік тому +4

      @@ferrousmcgarrus3431 how tho? they’re talking about Adam’s growth as ahost

  • @c.j.hatton
    @c.j.hatton Рік тому +2

    9:36 - I think the Amsterdam setting was made for EDM; EDM is very popular in the Netherlands

  • @felix123418
    @felix123418 Рік тому +5

    You made a mistake with the conversion of the price for the Fairbuds XL. Considering the american price it is quite sheaper with 225-230 USD at the current exchange rate. That's because we include the tax in Germany (19% MwSt) which makes up about 16% of the total price.

  • @TehAlekzi
    @TehAlekzi Рік тому +4

    I've replaced a battery once on a wireless headset and the job wasn't hard at all, had to unscrew 3 triangle head screws and solder 3 wires. The difficult part about it was that the headset used 603040 1S2P battery, which was a bit odd 2 cell configuration and you couldn't buy that particular battery anywhere anymore. I guess that's how they got the higher capacity on them back then when there wasn't too many different battery sizes.
    I just measured the battery compartment and ordered as big of a battery that would fit and it also had to have the thermistor. And they've worked for a couple of months now when I occasionally use them.

  • @KopfdesRiesen
    @KopfdesRiesen Рік тому +18

    It would be nice if there would be graphs for the different presets especially when there is no band eq.

  • @marx252
    @marx252 Рік тому +10

    I loved the Vsauce opening lol. So fitting, and I'm shocked it's taken so long.

    • @Wychfyre_
      @Wychfyre_ Рік тому +4

      Cant believe i had to scroll so far to see someone mention this

    • @Furiousme
      @Furiousme Рік тому

      @@Wychfyre_ This!!!!!!

  • @GhostRyderFPV
    @GhostRyderFPV Рік тому +1

    _"Names Mean Nothing"_
    Thank you, Best Buy Vimeo Channel, I shall now take my Ferrari Elantra to the Whole Foods and say Walter sent me for the Mayonnaise. What do you mean this Mayo doesn't support PCIe 4?!

  • @Errcyco
    @Errcyco Рік тому +1

    All joking aside.. if I could easily replace the drivers and batteries in my Bose overears.. I’d keep them another ten years. This is a fantastic idea and may actually take off cause it’s headphones.
    Headphones, I’m way more open to this kinda idea. My daily driver phone? No. Not so much.
    Good pickup, Godspeed Fairphone.

  • @Som09mer
    @Som09mer Рік тому +4

    Can't wait to see them on Dankpods
    Plus repair after 1 Grit hit them

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 Рік тому +3

    Props to Adam for mentioning how good Boston (band) sounds. That debut album is an engineering wonder.

  • @misimik
    @misimik Рік тому +3

    The Fairphone true-wireless earbuds make sense in the way that you can buy and pair replacement charging case or earbud when you loose it, so you don't have to buy whole new set. I had this issue when I lost case for my Sony WF-1000xm3. I managed to buy case from someone who lost their earbud, so I can charge and use mine, but the box's NFC pairing feature doesn't work.

    • @keonxd8918
      @keonxd8918 Рік тому +1

      Ehhh pretty sure u can get a replacement case from Sony themselves

    • @Stiegelzeine
      @Stiegelzeine Рік тому

      Apple also offers that so that product is a pure money grab wich proves they don’t care about repairability or the environment, only money

  • @SecretAsianMan2222
    @SecretAsianMan2222 Рік тому +3

    Imagine posting content to UA-cam before Floatplane where people pay to see things first, or at least commercial free.

  • @sergeymelkumov9232
    @sergeymelkumov9232 Рік тому +8

    Just like with Fairphone review, you keep forgetting that they are not only using sustainable materials but also Fairtrade certified. In plain English, in Chinese factories where the same stuff is made for all brands, workers get higher salary per hour when they assemble Fairbuds compare to any other brand . This is done to match livable wage in China and not just minimum wage. This is why they are more expensive.

    • @DerrickRG
      @DerrickRG Рік тому

      You ACTUALLY believe that? Lol. It's China, they can legally lie.

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Рік тому +1

      How about the sustainability of headphones with less moving parts? No Bluetooth, no noise canceling (just a good seal). But they removed the 3.5mm headphone jack from their phones for “sustainability” so you can move from your old, “non-sustainable” headphones and consume and brand new pair from their company.

    • @sergeymelkumov9232
      @sergeymelkumov9232 Рік тому +6

      @@gotoastal good job completely missing my point.

    • @sergeymelkumov9232
      @sergeymelkumov9232 Рік тому +2

      @@gotoastal p.s. i don´t have to move anywhere, I owned fairphone4 since it was released and plan to stop using it only when it breaks (and not repairable at all). when my current headphones break, I might consider buying fairbuds. if a new model is out there it does not mean I absolutely have to buy it. this is European mentality, learn from it.

  • @TheBismrk
    @TheBismrk Рік тому +5

    For a company who's all about sustainability, they *really* hate headphone jacks...

    • @keonxd8918
      @keonxd8918 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, they lost all credibility by removing it. Really shows what their priorities still are, profit

    • @odeiraoloap
      @odeiraoloap Рік тому +1

      Just get a 3.5mm to type C adapter so you can keep using your wired earphones with or without that port until the Sun swallows the Earth (i.e., become totally future proof) instead of whining about the loss of an ancient port.

    • @LuminousSpace
      @LuminousSpace Рік тому

      @@odeiraoloap then it wouldnt be sustainable anymore, u need to buy another thing to compensate for another, we dont want to throw away old devices too, that is the point of sustainability

    • @Raruschmaru
      @Raruschmaru Рік тому

      @@LuminousSpace well or, hear me out, use the bluetooth connection of the bluetooth headphones. I know, it sounds crazy, but it might really work! You could listen to music without a cable! Insane, isn't it?

  • @Kytetiger
    @Kytetiger Рік тому +1

    01:43 lol at the little explosion 😂

  • @joolz999
    @joolz999 Рік тому +4

    This is repairable which is great! I'm not sure about you guys, but I've never broken a wireless pair of headphones. The only wired pair I had were the m50x with detachable cables. I say this because will this company even exist in 10 years to supply the part you need? Audio products for me seem to just keep going and going.

    • @standapp9172
      @standapp9172 Рік тому

      Good audio remains good, if the audio quality is all you care about then if you like these now you'll like them in 20 years as well.
      As for the parts, most are easy to find from other companies. The batteries for example look pretty standard to me and can be found elsewhere. The logic board is proprietary, but given their track record as a company I don't see how they won't just make the designs open source if they can't produce them anymore. I suspect the 3D printing community and PCB designers are gonna have a field day with this one anyway, if it sells well enough

  • @Neteruk
    @Neteruk Рік тому +1

    Best part about sound quality, is that we can always code for it.

  • @Nicros21
    @Nicros21 Рік тому +1

    Gesundheit as they've shown means Health but also means "Bless you" when someone sneezes

  • @YOEL_44
    @YOEL_44 Рік тому +2

    In-ear, on-ear, over-ear (supraural) and around-ear (circumaural).
    That's all I need.

  • @claudiobizama5603
    @claudiobizama5603 Рік тому +7

    In therory, headphones aren't hard to repair as long as there are parts available. I hope these get some nice support and upgrades down the line.
    PS: They also offer TWS, but they arent repairable at all, which is a big shame.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +4

      Exactly, Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser have been doing it for decades

    • @esaedvik
      @esaedvik Рік тому

      @@Entertainment- Yeah, I have a pair of Sennheiser HD25sp headphones from 2001 and still going strong. Replaced like 2 cables and cups.

  • @Michael_mki233
    @Michael_mki233 Рік тому +1

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck then it isn't a 🤬 moose. Names absolutely matter.

  • @2nd3rd1st
    @2nd3rd1st Рік тому +2

    I think FP had to quickly push the unrepairable buds with their AUX-less FP4 to have a compatible audio solution on offer while they were finishing producing the XLs. I can see them drop the regular pods altogether fairly soon just to get rid of the bad brand synergy.

  • @aj0413_
    @aj0413_ Рік тому +1

    If it goes over the ears it’s a headphone, if it goes in the ear and has a wire it’s an IEM, if it’s wireless and goes in the ear it’s an earbud
    just cause marketing makes no sense doesn’t mean the community shouldn’t respect standardized language for ease of discussion; that was a bad argument, honestly

  • @Daniel-dj7fh
    @Daniel-dj7fh Рік тому

    "Gesundheit" directly translates to "health".
    But it is used to say "bless you" when someone sneezes.

  • @jerome436
    @jerome436 Рік тому +1

    Just the replaceable battery is more than enough. Easy replacement cable between the 2 earcup are also great.

  • @pldcanfly
    @pldcanfly Рік тому +1

    Thats why I love Beyerdynamics. Great Sound, built like a tank, and you can order many many replacementsparts from them. It helps that their design is prolly old enough to drink at this point. And as a user of the Fairphone 4 I can say I am very happy with what they do. It works like a charm, and does what it should. Might not be the most impressive hardware or the best speakers or the crispest screen, but... if I want to play games I have a PC, if I want to listen to music and sink into it I have headphones, if I need to watch movies in great quality I watch them on a tv. For everything else its more then enough. Their pragmatic "no frills or tyos, just what you need, sourced fairly" is so great. I am a fan.

    • @0106johnny
      @0106johnny Рік тому +1

      The designs kids are getting old enough to drink by now

  • @StolenJoker84
    @StolenJoker84 Рік тому +2

    Regarding replaceable batteries. It makes (some) sense that in-ear buds might not have easily replaceable batteries in them - given that there’s a LOT crammed into such a tiny space. However, any full-size headphone - on-ear and over-the-ear types - … there’s no reason why they don’t have replaceable batteries.

  • @Kudejikashi
    @Kudejikashi Рік тому +4

    framework and fairphone hopefully change industry standards

    • @Dranzell
      @Dranzell Рік тому +1

      They won't. They're just marketing gimmicks. By the time people actually need to repair their stuff, usually the technology has moved so far forward that they will want to upgrade.

    • @keonxd8918
      @keonxd8918 Рік тому +1

      95% of world wide consumers don't care about repairability sadly.

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Рік тому

      Framework still only offers bad display panels and no upgrades. Fairphone removed then headphone jack and then turned around to sell you headphones.
      *Needs improvement.*

  • @rachmanfachri
    @rachmanfachri Рік тому +1

    the Vsauce reference is already on point IF ONLY the editor use footage from the front-facing camera

  • @hananas2
    @hananas2 Рік тому +4

    I can't believe no one else has done replaceable batteries on wireless headphones, that's already like the biggest thing to make them last longer (in combination with replaceable ear pads but that's pretty standard)
    Which is also why companies don't wanna do it cuz people buy less new headphones.. :(

    • @MrNagano00
      @MrNagano00 Рік тому +1

      Yep. It's pretty easy to believe, making them have a user replaceable battery would be easy but it would mean you turn a 4 year cycle product into 6-7. Completely unacceptable!

  • @homi1001
    @homi1001 Рік тому +1

    If someone sneezes in you say "Gesundheit!" and it is pretty much "bless you" in German, but the literal meaning is in fact "health" (in other context).

  • @VigneshBalasubramaniam
    @VigneshBalasubramaniam Рік тому +3

    No headphone jack on these, and no headphone jack on Fairphones. That's when they lost me.

  • @平和-v1z
    @平和-v1z Рік тому +3

    Sad that they don't have a 3.5 mm jack...
    Looking forward to more sustainable tech from ShortCircuit!

  • @jomeyqmalone
    @jomeyqmalone Рік тому +11

    These remind me of the Aiaiai modular headphones, but those mainly pushed the customizability aspect, with repairability being a nice side effect.
    The city name based eq, though reminds me of Kygo headphones, and not in a good way. In that app, there was actually a slider between the 4 different cities. What does moving a slider halfway between Ibiza and Berlin even mean in terms of adjusting sound?

    • @FromHaruspex
      @FromHaruspex Рік тому

      And AIAIAI does refurb/recycling - and I bet they sound MUCH better.

  • @jorismak
    @jorismak Рік тому +1

    Sont forget 250 euro is often including the sales tax over here. 21% or 19%.
    So it's 250 euro with sales tax, around 206 euro without. That in USD according to google sits around USD 225. But i guess there will be some kind of import cost somewhere.
    I actually don't know if it's more common to compare prices with and without sales tax in the US (and also in Canada for that matter ).

  • @Xfade81
    @Xfade81 Рік тому +2

    Hope other companies do that battery compartment thing. My Corsair one can be replaced but it's not this easy.

  • @JKK_85
    @JKK_85 11 місяців тому +1

    These are currently being bundled for free with a Fairphone 4 in the UK.

  • @mma93067
    @mma93067 Рік тому +2

    Can a firmware update improve quality or would it need a hardware update ?
    Just replacing the circuit board for a newer edition would be cool

  • @maartenmidden1651
    @maartenmidden1651 Рік тому +2

    Also check out Repeat Audio from the Netherlands. Seems like nice repairable headphones.

  • @jarredgallaher2643
    @jarredgallaher2643 Рік тому +1

    You tell other companies to take note, when you still sell broken products?

  • @heath780391
    @heath780391 Рік тому +5

    I'm probably not the only one here who has said this, but I would love to see this featured in an LTT labs comparison to other brands. A stand alone LTT video would be awesome too.

  • @Jojo_Tolentino
    @Jojo_Tolentino Рік тому +1

    I'm more interested to get this because of knob controls. Good to see this control scheme adopted instead of buttons or touch sensitive.

  • @YashAtishay
    @YashAtishay Рік тому +1

    I think what fair phone is doing is really cool, I wish they would sell in India as well. my iPhone SE 2nd gen is 2 and a half years old now, when the time comes when I can't keep using it anymore, I would love to buy a fair phone over another iPhone

  • @falenone11
    @falenone11 Рік тому +1

    Finally wireless headphones that's not ewaste as soon as you buy them

  • @sanjacobs6261
    @sanjacobs6261 Рік тому +1

    10:10 Thank you for this question! I hate when companies say that something is two opposite things at once

  • @Petar120
    @Petar120 Рік тому +2

    I don't see a point in creating these "fair headphoes" because let's be real if you plan on buying good headphones that will last you 10+ years all you need are 2(or more) more pairs of replacement pads, never heard that electronics failed in them especially when you're spending more money for higher end ones, also replaceable batteries is fine i guess but if you want quality you won't even go wireless sooooo

  • @zeekjones1
    @zeekjones1 Рік тому +1

    Green recycled plastic marble, just like gradeschool tiles.
    _Man, nostalgia is weird._

  • @joel09015
    @joel09015 Рік тому +2

    Could you please do an ANC comparison to other headphones? I'd really like to know which frequencies it does better or worse than my Bose QC25.

  • @sarux3
    @sarux3 Рік тому

    The Anthony Fantano outro actually scared me. I wasn’t expecting it 💀

  • @zb7012
    @zb7012 Рік тому +1

    As someone who used to work in a plastic plant they make it that texture and speckled look just to make you more convinced it's recycled. I'm sure it is but a decent amount of plastic is recycled and is grounded up and sorted and come back to the same plant and can be melted and have any texture/color you want.

    • @BanditLeader
      @BanditLeader Рік тому +1

      You were close but wrong. It's speckled to hide the imperfections in the recycled plastic. It has nothing to do with making it "look more recycled"

  • @rosstemby1347
    @rosstemby1347 Рік тому +1

    It means good health. That’s why we say it for sneezes.

  • @NegussugeN
    @NegussugeN Рік тому +2

    "AirPawns & AirPawns Max" 0:45

  • @deRykcihC
    @deRykcihC Рік тому +1

    and... they removed headphone jack from fairphone 4 just to sell you a more repairable headphone

  • @Anti3D-0
    @Anti3D-0 Рік тому +1

    repairability makes most sense for a wireless headphones, since the battery will degrade and require replacement every few years. For the wired market, you can just buy one from the Sennheiser HD6x family. Not only they sounds great, they're indestructible so no expected repair in the first place

  • @otherssingpuree1779
    @otherssingpuree1779 Рік тому

    That Vsauce intro but off camera gets my instant approval.

  • @prag_un
    @prag_un Рік тому +6

    9:29 Adam is a melon fan

  • @ssjaken
    @ssjaken Рік тому +1

    Vegan Leather is typically laminated cotton/bamboo/similar material.

  • @danieljames500
    @danieljames500 Рік тому +2

    i don’t really like the fairphone company. sure their products are repairable, but they’re also just not as good. the phones use old parts, have big bezels, and overall just seem cheap to me but cost a decent amount for what you’re getting. these headphones, my first thought was the sound quality won’t be great and that seems to be confirmed, just because SO much goes into making good headphones and to claim “superior sound” (superior to what?) just makes it seem like a cheap quality product trying to make it look better. now to be clear, i don’t dislike the idea. framework is absolutely awesome and if i need to get a new laptop in the next couple years, i’m definitely gonna be looking at the new 16” coming out soon. the thing is they still make good products that are absolutely comparable to the competition. they don’t cheap out on design, the interior is easily repairable but still extremely compact and even visually well designed, no cheap green circuit boards etc. not saying a good looking pcb is necessary, just that they pay such close attention to make every aspect of their product appealing and don’t use their goal of making it sustainable as an excuse to release a mediocre product which is the vibe i get from fairphone. it’s not a great product, it cost more than you should be paying for it, but it’s sustainable and i don’t like that

    • @Raruschmaru
      @Raruschmaru Рік тому

      don't forget that you also help that everyone in the production chain gets payed a fair wage. That's also a major aspect of FairPhone that many people here seem to forget.

  • @Bjorn_R
    @Bjorn_R Рік тому +1

    Just wondering. Could a product like this not just be repaired but also be upgraded with new parts and thus make it a forever product?

    • @catjuzu
      @catjuzu 9 місяців тому

      I mean, theoretically yes. But rn, no. Would be cool tho. For me that would be great especially in phones, as all I really care about is the battery. If it lasts long, I'm happy. So buying a cheap phone and then putting in a better battery would be great.

  • @teknonmy7210
    @teknonmy7210 Рік тому +2

    funny thing is Fairphone has had issues supporting the decent Bluetooth codecs and my headphone dongle just crapped the bed two weeks ago after only 3 months of usage

    • @shotgunmasterQL
      @shotgunmasterQL Рік тому

      I mean yeah, it's kinda mental that they dropped the headphone jack from the phone, forcing you to use a jack or Bluetooth, but their Bluetooth codec support initially was only for SBC and AAC, not LDAC or any of the AptX ones. They apparently introduced support for more codecs, until the Android 12 update broke compatibility with some of them.
      It's pretty dumb.
      I have been using a USB-C adapter for 3 months now and it no longer works that well. I don't think the adapter itself is broke, but it's just that even the tiniest movement inside the USB port will disconnect the adapter, it's just so sensitive. Could be that the Samsung adapter I'm using is a POS (sound quality is great), but I'm not sure if I want to risk it by buying a higher quality adapter from a more audio dedicated brand.

    • @teknonmy7210
      @teknonmy7210 Рік тому

      @@shotgunmasterQL I had the same-ish problem with my dongle. Sound on the right channel was on and off depending on how I bent the dongle, now it's completely intermittent. Ordered a new one from UGreen, it's been in shipping since the 5th.

  • @grvl307
    @grvl307 Рік тому

    "repeat audio" already did this years ago. In a subscription format. Take a look! Might be cool to feature them in a video! Also a Dutch company, just like Fairphone!

  • @CallumSewell14
    @CallumSewell14 Рік тому +2

    Appreciate the vsauce intro 👌

  • @Reilaos
    @Reilaos Рік тому +2

    AIAIAI has existed in this sort of space for a while, but they don't do ANC, which is unfortunate.

  • @petkol122
    @petkol122 Рік тому

    I really think they should allow full control of the EQ, for people who know what they want and are a bit more serious. I feel like the boominess could be nicely rectified by adjusting the frequencies to ones preferred settings.

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 Рік тому +1

    Now make it one of the best sounding headphones, good ANC, good build quality and amazing battery life and I'm sold!

  • @itsgood2slide
    @itsgood2slide Рік тому

    11:25 how is the green line above the red line between 1k and 10k? Is the ANC having a detrimental effect in this region?

  • @MarkFaldborg
    @MarkFaldborg Рік тому

    A nice big XL polyester egg bag.
    Looks like a five egg capacity. Good value.

  • @Vladek16
    @Vladek16 Рік тому

    11:38 I'm not sure how to read that graph. The lower the red / green lines compared to the white, the better ?

    • @sidesaladaudio
      @sidesaladaudio Рік тому +2

      Yeah lower is more isolation at that frequency

  • @TagetesAlkesta
    @TagetesAlkesta Рік тому

    I’d happily part with a grand if I could get a set of headphones with the repairability of the Fairbuds XL, the sound quality of the AirPods Max, and the ANC of the Sony WH-XM5s. That would be a dream come true.

  • @jobz9150
    @jobz9150 Рік тому +1

    Names do mean something. Ear phones are ear phones and head phones are head phones.

  • @Domspun
    @Domspun Рік тому +1

    I don’t see this video on Floatplane! How come?

  • @guscrossing
    @guscrossing Рік тому

    It's not hard. Headphones are speakers on head bands, they are clamping and weighted on your head, further categorized with on-ear or over-ear. Earphones or earbuds are speakers in your ears, they are friction-fit and weighted on your ears, further categorized with in-ear or on-ear. Earplugs are in-ear things that you use to isolate outside sound.

  • @beaudemers8982
    @beaudemers8982 Рік тому +1

    Is it normal for the videos to come out on UA-cam hours before floatplane? I only recently signed up for floatplane

  • @theyruinedyoutubeagain
    @theyruinedyoutubeagain Рік тому +1

    Loved that fantano reference

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado Рік тому

    while i appreciate the people in the comments going "yeah but this high-end brand also does it already" yeah, but ALL brands should be doing it, the more repairable tech, the more better
    thanks to everyone recomending more brands tho, especially because their headphones aren't BabyFood Green

  • @xiuxiu1108
    @xiuxiu1108 Рік тому

    Wow an actual music nerd reviewing headphones. I saw that flash of Black Country New Road (10:12). Good stuff.

  • @blockbertus
    @blockbertus Рік тому

    Beyerdynamic (from Germany) does offer basically every part from their headphones separately. So you can repair whatever is broken. Or, if you feel like it, build your headphones from scratch (at a much higher cost, though). ;-)

  • @michaelrogers897
    @michaelrogers897 Рік тому +3

    The cups being linked via usb C is so awesome and I'd love to see more replaceable things move to usb c because they can handle so much data and power now

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +2

      USB-C is just a connector. And I’m pretty sure that cable between the earcups doesn’t comply with any standard and just uses the USB-C connector for easy detachment and replacement.

    • @shotgunmasterQL
      @shotgunmasterQL Рік тому

      ​@@Entertainment- Yeah, but I wonder if a basic store bought USB-C cable would work? Since there's not really much of a reason to wire that thing weirdly or anything, I would still expect the pins to connect in a pretty straightforward manner.
      But obviously, since it's just a USB-C cable and you can figure out the wiring if there's something different about it, you can even make your own replacement cable if you wanted to. Pretty neat even considering that part of the cable is visible, so if you wanted to customize to looks, you could do it.