Buying a Cheap V10 Viper Truck at Auction turned into a $15,000 Mistake
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After fixing up this V10 Dodge Viper Truck, and getting it ready to sell, a spark plug blew apart during it's test drive. This truck started off as a cheap gamble, and now it's turned into the ultimate money pit.
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I would not ship him the plug back, unless you document the conversation and have his word that he will get back with you with a real reason why this happened. They will bury your issue, and never let you know what happens. And your fault you used a cheap plug as well. It is a Viper, not a neon.
That's a pretty cool shirt ,your wearing at the end of the video 😂 ,Go WINGS !!!
That spark plug happened to me on my 2002 Sequoia. It has coil on plug. It does NOT run. The spark ignites the fuel and then comes up out of the plug home and starts a fire almost immediately with the rubber boot attached from the coil. I immediately pulled over and saw the melted coil. Pulled the coil out and the ceramic inner came with it. 1 plug and 1 coil later, and she was all good again.
Good ain't Cheap and Cheap ain't Good. Perfect old southern saying..... Heard it all my life probably first from my Grand-dad, it's true with guns, boots and cars!
@@GenX...MCMLXV and tires 😂
There is a reason why even mopars started using NGK as OEM. 😂
Only thing I use Champion for is my lawn mower - and that's because that's just what the local hardware store sells.
@@Beer_Dad1975won't hold that against you since it's local business.
When I replaced the champion plugs for ngk on my motorbike,it became much more reliable and had a better response.
I always put ngk plugs in all my cars and bikes..
Too bad i saw ngk doing the same in my neighbors chevy even broke the spark wire when blewup 😅😅😅
Plug got drop at somepoint before getting installed.
2 uploads in 2 days! Good job Samcrac
Sam is there something wrong? - 2 videos in a week - blink twice if something is wrong or blink once if everything OK
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@@Samcrac Is your Step-mom ok?
I was actually saying the same thing. I thought it was a short. 😅
Not that we are complaining but just know that you are appreciated for sharing and taking us along
He needs some additional UA-cam revenue. Must've bought another Ferrari....
Retired BMW tech here. I have seen Bosch plugs where the center electrode comes loose causing misfires. The end result is a continuously variable plug gap. Sometimes difficult to find but usually visible when shaking the plug up and down by hand. You can see the gap close as the electrode falls down.
Thanks for the info!
I have had a Bosch plug internals become lose causing a bad misfire thankfully it stayed in one piece
Why does Bosch make so.much crap products despite the premium price? Typical German engineering.
yeah mechanics know never bosch plugs. they are crap. NGK or denso are personal favs.
@@WhiteG60 Wow, did not know spark plug prices could be that high.
I don't even like putting Champion plugs in my lawnmower lol
I have used them exclusively for 40 years with zero problems.
@@mikek5298 40 years ago maybe. With modern engines having iridium plugs from the factory, I would stay clear.
LOL, I use them in my lawnmower and used to use them in my chainsaw and line trimmer before I went electric on those - never had any problems with them, but always go NGK for my cars.
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I'm with yall. Champion plug was fouling and missing. Replaced with NGK one range colder. Making .03 more horsepower, and cuts are now running 5 minutes shorter on average. For the record that's Ohio on a 76 degree day running 93. Summer temps generally require more alcohol and higher consumption. As always YMMV.
Nothing you did wrong, Sam, other than putting Champion sparkplugs in that engine........NGK works best IMHO!
Thanks for a cool video as always!
Thanks for watching!
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Thank you for this video Sam. I have a '97 Viper GTS that had Champion plugs in it. A speciality Viper shop up North told me to use NGK plugs so that's what I ended up putting in it but glad I changed them out sooner than later!
This truck will probably run for years problem free with all the repairs you have done to it. I did similar with a Toyota van that I was going to make into a camper. I had the engine out several times as i converted it to diesel, changing out the gear box and diff as well. Breaks, clutch, suspension and steering also got big overhauls. I spent all my spare time for a whole summer on it, late nights and weekends. Then reached the point I couldn't even stand to look at it, and I sold it without fitting it out as a camper as I had planned. The guy who bought it told me years later that he still had it, and it had always run great for him with no issues.
i used to drive a tank truck for chemlawn in florida in the late 80s , it had the 9 liter engine if i remember right , gas engine v 8 and at least once a week it would blow a spark plug just like yours did . after it happened 5 times , always on I75 near tampa , they took the head off and found loads of carbon on that piston and it was causing EXTREME compression on that cylinder
That’s why we watch you Sam . Because you show the real problems that can arise from these vehicles don’t hide the bad ,
Lesson learned Sam. Don't go too cheap. LOL
I've never seen a sparkplug do that. I shared the video with my dad, who's been working on cars since the mid-50's, and he said thats the first time he remembers seeing it.
you never had a geek install the plug either. he ruined it on installation
hahah totally makes sense XD @@jonathannagela2130
@jonathannagela2130 if Sam was an idiot or a noob, I might agree with you. But considering how many plugs he's changed and the numerous reports of defective parts coming right out of the box, I'm more inclined to believe the spark plug was defective.
@@AeroGuy07 but on the other hand 999 times he’s careful maybe this 1000th he was careless hence the one all the way in the back… perhaps he used a tool that wasn’t fit for the job or combine this with a 45-90degree extension that put wrong kinda stress on it…
I have now seen them come apart a few ways on other channels. QC on many parts is horrible
I had a 16 F-250 with a 6.2 in it. They have 16 spark plugs. Three of the 8 lower plugs came apart just like yours. They were also champions.
NGK for the win, Champion in the bin!!!!
By far the most educational and straight to the point auto channel on UA-cam
2 videos in 2 days... Holy crap 😮
Keep it up Samcrac!!!
I've never been to a tyre place where they didn't check for leaks once the tyres were on but then that just might be how things are in the UK
This was great SAM two videos in just a few days!!!! Thank you i needed this. Hate not having any videos for a week or two
New videos back to back! Love the uploads Sam
I had exactly the same thing happen with champion plugs 42 years ago on an Australian GM performance car. Not just once but 6 times and it was several plugs at once. Used motorcraft plugs from then on.
Champion plugs used to be ok when I was a kid back in the 1960's, but not long after I got my first car in 1972 I put Champion plugs in and they were ok but within three months they were externally as rusty as hell. They looked as if they'd been stood in a bucket of water for two years! I was a roadside mechanic for 25 years and just about every set of Champion plugs I took out of customers cars were in the same rusty condition. I always put NGK plugs in my customers caress and used them myself with no issues whatsoever.
I’m excited for 2 videos in 1 week. I like Sam’s videos because he entertains and has some good advice sometimes.
Thank you so much for sharing all the things you lean along the way. You are a constant source of knowledge or me.
Love your videos keep going ❤
Champion spark plug no never for me
Ive been watching you for years man and youre one knowledgeable guy! Keep making these amazing videos.
This plug issues has happened to me at least once...dont beat up yourself. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Champion plugs are the worst I’ve ever dealt with. Their quality control sucks, and the ones at the parts store are different than what the factory installs.
Thanks for being upfront about what make of a plug failed and how they treated you when you called them. Being upfront to your viewers is super nice to see and i don't take it for granted. You could have easily done a deal with them that would have included a clause about not disclosing publicly the make and model of plug that failed in order to protect their image. So thanks for not going that route. Huge win for it not doing any harm to the engine!
Sam, I learn so much watching ur videos. Thnx
Awesome and outstanding content as always
im just super impresssed you made a 20 min video about this lol
A very long time ago (late 70's) a mate of mine had this happen to him when riding his Velocette Venom. Not the end of the world, being an old English motorcycle rider he had the important spares in a tool roll, swapped out at the side of the road and on he went.
Never seen it since until this!
I fixed on my son's 4.6 Ford but other failures with plugs. Great video!🎉
Whoever is watching this video, I hope this day will be a great day.
Oh, a Samcrac video just before falling asleep :)
and that is supposed to be interesting?
Had the exact same thing happen with a '79 Mercury Bobcat station wagon. It was an inline 4 and when I punched it when the light went green, it made the exact same noise.This was back in my young and dumb years, so I don't recall the brand of plugs. It also made a lot less power then it's 100hp so it limped back to the apartment quite slowly, and loudly. After getting friend to give me a lift to and from the parts store, it was replaced quickly and I was back on the road for a couple more years.
Glad everything worked out 👍👍👍👍👍
The Ford plug problem wasn't that the threads weakened.. there were just fewer threads in the affected cylinders. It was an engineering failure with the block design.
I've had it happen on a Champion snowblower plug.
I use to see that leak test in tire shop all the time but now that you brought it up I haven’t really seen them any do them recently
Thanks for all the Videos. Funny thing I just had a neutral switch problem on a 2002 Impala not a super car.
Champion is the fram of spark plugs.
What about Autolite?
Champion is the OEM plug for that truck, and for any Viper in that generation, and they work great. Unfortunately, parts do fail sometimes. Sucks it happened to you, but it happens.
I had a top-of-the-line champion plug BREAK very similar to how yours broke in less than 200 miles after install. It was torqued to spec at install. I only use NGK now.
I haven’t seen someone leak test in water since the 80’s
Around here the used tire places do it.
Saw a guy on FB showing a separated champion spark plug the other day and was thinking this is weird and now that i saw this I was like OMG it can't be lol
I live in the UK and have had a lot of cars over the years… I’ve never had a tyre fitted that they haven’t checked for leaks… I can’t believe that’s the first time you’ve had this done… that seems crazy to me!!! Admittedly our wheels are normally more corroded than yours are due to the climate but still… that really surprises me!!!
I’ve used all brands of plugs and never any issues with any except auto lites. I even switched out some Bosch platinum plugs on an 04 ram 1500 with the 4.7 v8 that has 8 plugs and a coil on plug design with champion copper and it runs so much smoother and the throttle response has improved also get about 1mpg better fuel economy.
Holy Spark Plugs! This is crazy! Never seen anything like that before. Glad you caught it early and it sounds like the new plugs fixed the problem. Those Bosch Platinums are usually pretty reliable I've had good luck with them in a few different vehicles 👍
I've had a car wirh a missfire, turned out the plug failed excatly the same way but didnt pop out, was a champion plug too!
Glad youre making serious videos again.
Denso and ngk make great quality plugs among the best in the mass produced game
5:24 - is that your finger? What the hell happened?! Did a giant wasp stung you?
Looks like a burn injury
It's probably Mike's finger, and I'm pretty sure that's a skin graft 😬
Counterfeit plug ? at Amazon ?
Very possible. I don't buy any supposedly 'oem' parts off of Amazon and eBay anymore. After searching through hundreds of listings sometimes you can spot the fakes. The sticker/label may look suspicious
This is the frequency we want to see Sam posting videos.
Yes had a plug come apart just like that on my jaguar. Almost same exact as this. No engine damage just scary when it happened.
CHAMPION PLUGS DO THAT !..
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NGK every time; Champion absolute sh*t.
@@kevinmoffattNGK has some other shitty failures lol. Had mine blow but thank god not fall into my engine, twice.
Any old doge truck worth nothing? LOL maybe do a little more research. A clapped out rust bucket ok, but price a cummins ram with 100k and say that.
Dodge is trash 😂 that's why Fords been America's best selling truck for over 47 consecutive years. My grandparents left me their dodge when they passed it didnt even have 40k miles needed 2 wheel bearings / alternator / I had fixed the ac in the truck 3x. I sold that extended cab 1500 pos not even a week later for 3k and the inside was immaculate
GREAT VIDEOS LOVE EM ALL
I'm a mechanic and I've seen it before. Interestingly enough it was a Champion. Was on a V8 Benz bought in on a truck.
We wondered who puts Champion plugs in a Merc LOL?
NGK, best sparkplugs in business.
I like that playing card set up !! Good hack.
We used to see the issue on some Nissans (GA/CG) with Champion plugs in the UK it was an issue with the sealing between the ceramic and the nut difficult to reproduce even at Champion in Europe - I worked for Nissan (NETC) at the time (mid 90's) it would take out the spark plug tube best solution is always NGK!
Let's Go !! RED WINGS !!!
Hi Sam I used to work for Champion they always cover up these problem. They are owned by Federal Mogul who have many vehicle aftermarket names under their bet, including ANCO wiper blades; Bentley-Harris protection solutions; Champion spark plugs, wipers and filters, BERU glow plugs; AE, Fel-Pro, Goetze, Nural, Glyco and Payen engine products; MOOG steering ...
This is good info Ive never seen this
Sam you should have put ngk spark plugs in. There’s a reason most people don’t use champion
Loved the mustang and truck brother
Sam u are on a different level
Yes, I have had that happen to me, Ford ranger 4 cyl. The porcelain pop out of the threads just like that, was going up a big hill while pulling a decent load.
2 videos over the weekend 👏👏👏
luv your channel Sam..i learn so much.. i have 11 cars .. ive bought 1 new Bosche plugs that failed ..all others worked great just not in nissans
Thanks Sam, I learned something here, Trans flush. Like always another great content and video.
NGK Crea9 in a hayabusa came apart on me just like this . its just a natural thing that happens since they produce so many .
why is thete a DDE logo in the bottle right of the video...glad we're getting more content out of you ss its always super informative 👍
Brother get that big girl sorted and you’ll be happier than any other truck with two less cylinders to play with
I do like that viper sry pick up. It's bang tidy!
I'm very tempted to buy one
2 videos in a week!!!! He'll yea!!!
I've never heard of that. When I work at the Ford Dealer, there was plenty of 5 fours that. plugs came out of and you had to rethread it. I always use iridium. They're the best. They last longest.
That's a new one on me, as well. The only thing I can think of is faulty manufacturing due to possible off-shore assembly. I have not used Champion for decades and, rather, have been consistently using NGK which, for the most part, is competitively priced and, touch wood, have never let me down, either in automotive or small engine applications.
I had the threads on the spark plug in a o5 dakota motor that I was getting swapped to a ram come off in the block. The end that goes into the socket stayed on the porcelain. Luckily the motor was out and a squared extractor was able to get it out. Forget what brand the plugs was but they was stock.
I just got a big 450 crf R im hyped🎉
Whoa, Sam has posted 2 videos within a week? What the...? It's a miracle
Wow, that's crazy.I've been using Champion plugs for over thirty years and have never had one fail like that,never had any issues at all,actually. Glad to see you get the Viper truck sorted , all things considered, it's still a nice truck.
My preferred spark plug is Champion. I have never had a failure with them. Bosch is the plug I had the most problems with and NGK gave the most interesting problems. On a Fiat Uno the made the engine sound like I dropped a nut on the piston and on a Mazda 2.2l Pick up they caused a rough running and no performance issue that caused the owner to have the head off twice to try and find the problem, but in both those cases it was the plug with the V in the electrode.
What ya get for putting lawn mower plugs in ur v10. Buy Bosch or mopar part. Even split fire are good.
good one
I’ve had this issue before with champion plugs and since have been running ngk plugs and have never had any other issues
I love the sponsorship shout out lol when I heard you about to tell us what you thought the best tire for this truck could be and you said Venom…. I laughed pretty good.
Looking forward to some good old drifting videos
When that happens it usually happens to the back or most difficult to reach plug and in my humble experience happens ftom putting a bit of lateral force on the plug when tightening. This cracks the plug very near the point where the ceramic meets the metal. Often it breaks right off, but not always. It is easiest to do with blind installs on tall plugs. The V10 in question is susceptible to exactly that.
That's why I use the NGK
We have had problems at our dealer with Bosch spark plugs. Seems to be 992 911 have misfires after plug changes. Porsche put out a TSB blaming use but there is literally nothing wrong with the plugs visually. I think they were dropped at some point but can’t prove it.
12:40 Derek at VGG has a good way of covering tyres when respraying wheels. It is much easier than the way you do it!!!
Champion .
S197 Mustangs (2005-2009) had OEM plug issues where the factory plug would separate upon removal leaving the probe in the head without a way to get it out. There is a special extractor tool needed to remove it.
Really good video sam!👍🏿😂
Glad you enjoyed