I would agree with this however, the director of Encanto talked about how Bruno’s name was supposed to be Oscar. But Lin Manuel asked to change it to Bruno for the song to rhyme haha
I heavily disagree, actually. The only reason Bruno abandoned his family was to PROTECT them, and especially Mirabel. The idea that he would abandon a child is HORRIBLY against what personality we see in the movie. In addition, though he leaves, Bruno cannot bring himself to leave his family, itself, which is where he has stayed. In addition, the whole point of the character is that he is innocent, and a pure soul. To do what he would have to have done that this theory claims, would be horribly against his character. And that utterly blows the theory out of the water.
Not to mention one is a Picsart film and the other is a Disney film, I actually thought encounter was a Picsart film until I saw it in theatres, but once I knew I completely defunct this theory in my mind, especially after watching the film.
Agreed Bruno even says the mountains are tall that’s why he never left. He never actually left he just left there site he was always living in the walls though
@@stephaniequintana3072 Yes, I think you can interpret what to Laura sit in many different ways, she even insert it in the Bruno song, so while she may not have known 100% that he was there, I think she did know in some capacity that someone was there.
But what if he leaves and dies in the future? That is why he never came back? He was gonna go check something and died because of it. So his intention was not to leave Alberto to fend for himself, but to come back after a day or two maybe? He saw something horrible would happen and tried to stop it, but it resulted in his death. Maybe he saved his son or family or something.
I feel that if Bruno was actually Alberto's dad, it'd likely be after the events of Encanto. Mainly because no one could leave due to the mountains until the movie's conclusion. Maybe Bruno decided to visit the coast after the mountains opened up, fell in love with a sea monster, and decided to move to Italy to be part of the sea monster's family. Then he wound up seeing a future that drove him to leave. Like, maybe Bruno foresaw his own death and didn't want to freak Alberto out or potentially drag Alberto into danger? The whole "silencio Bruno" thing could've been a phrase Bruno himself made because he still blamed his powers for causing chaos rather than just sensing it.
The thing is, in actuality, the director of Luca even said himself, he just randomly chose the name Bruno for that line as it was spur of the moment and apologized to those named Bruno. In Encanto, Lin Manuel Miranda himself said that the Encanto Bruno was originally named Oscar but he asked to change it so he could work it into a song better. Otherwise, it's a fun what if idea.
Unfortunately, Bruno wasn’t ever able to escape the Encanto and says so himself, stating the mountains were too tall. Also, it’s very doubtful that bruno would abandon his son/someone who is just as close as family, cause even when Bruno in Encanto *abandoned* his family he never truly left. Finally, it’s a LOOOOOOONG way from Colombia to Italy so that’s just an extra doubt.
THANK YOU the man lived in the walls because he loved his family and wanted to protect them, but couldn’t bare leaving them (personally I think using the mountains as an excuse was just him trying to downplay his hurt so Mirabel wouldn’t feel more sorry for him) And this guy is trying to convince me that this same man would just leave his kid?? And as you said, Italy and Colombia are so far a part, when would Bruno even be able to travel?? He’s never left the Encanto, and was hiding in Casita’s walls for 10 years and you can’t tell me he started to travel after the events of the movie, why would he do that? He spent so much time just missing his family and longing to reunite with them. As you said, it just doesn’t make sense for his character.
For the first part true. But playing with the idea that the theory is true I feel like Bruno would leave if he had a vision of something terrible happening to Alberto involving him so in order for it to not come true he took himself out of the picture to try and help. Yes it’s still terrible but I feel like that goes along with his character and about how he would do anything if it means helping his family even if it includes actually abandoning them.
It would also explain why Luca’s Bruno is seen as so overprotective it’s because he’s trying to do everything he can think of to keep his son safe because he loves his family
@@montebeverly237 I agree that would probably be the only reason he would leave Alberto, however, leaving him alone without anyone to care for him? That’s when I think it falls apart again, I think he would sooner bring his kid with him than leave him, or at the least make sure he was taken care of before he left especially if it was a vision of his kid being in danger. That being said, I like it as a fanfic idea rather than as a theory Edit: typo
I usually agree with you, but Bruno didn't abandon his family. He said he loves his family and that he never left because of that. He only hid himself because everyone blamed him for their futures, instead of realizing he had no control over what it was. He was afraid he was just hurting everyone. He didn't run away to save himself. He ran away to save everyone else. Honestly I'm really disappointed in this theory. Bruno is obviously a very quirky but sweet guy. He had so much love he didn't even go off to start his own life (outside of this theory), instead he stayed in side the walls patching up the cracks with out anyone even knowing. I really hate that this theory makes him seem like he's this dead beat bad guy who just abandons people, when that isn't the case at all. Y'all dropped the ball on this one. Sorry guys.
yeah honestly Im not a big fan of that either and I think all the "similarities" he mentioned are really far fetched (like wow he wears a bucket head and alberto gave luca a spaghettis strainer head, what a coincidence) but I just like the idea of Hispanic superpower alberto
@@e-todlonghair2856 That's how I felt too. Like they were really reaching in this video. None of the things they pointed out were even close to the correlations that other movies have.
In “We Don’t Talk About Bruno”, Dolores says “I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling”. I think she knew he was there, but chose not to tell anyone because she understands what it’s like to have an invasive gift like seeing people’s future or hearing literally everything - shown by “it’s a heavy lift with a gift so humbling”. And because of that, Bruno being in the house became a secret she was willing to keep (and something not as extreme as a vision of the family’s magic being destroyed which would be much harder to keep quiet about).
A post I've seen that I really liked, was this person talking about how Dolores likely has an understanding of Bruno no one else has. Everyone can control their powers EXCEPT Dolores and Bruno. Dolores can tune into things, but she just has her super hearing, whereas Bruno can have a vague idea of what he wants to see but he has no control over WHAT he sees. (Where as the other just use their powers, like lifting strong things in Luisa's case or consciously shapeshifting like Camilo.) I just liked the idea of she knew but was able to keep it secret since she understood.
I disagree with this theory entirely, simply put, Delores isn't that much of a gossip, she shares a huge and important piece of information with the family; and only answers questions directed to her. Her mom was the main person who insisted not talking about Bruno so she probably learned from an early age to stay quiet about sounds in the walls. Bruno also doesn't seem like the type to abandon his kid either, he is all about his family, even as an outcast. I made the same joke though about the similar name usage when it came out.
there's literally a song saying they don't talk about him and everyone is expecting her to talk about him. i mean she does, but she needed to be sneaky about it.
@@riduanaqil1452 I mean, she literally, now I'm gonna quote the song. "Grew to live in fear of Bruno stuttering and stumbling. I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling. I associate him with the sound of falling sand." She knows he's there, almost certainly tried to tell Abuela, but was consistently silenced because she (and the rest of the family) don't want to pay attention to their black-sheep.
I agree that she isn't much of a gossip. It was just too big to keep to herself as it effected the whole family. The gifts are given because of the personality of the person receiving the gift and to be a help to the family and the community. I think Delores was always the quiet type who listens more than speaks and as such received a gift that allowed her to hear more. I don't see how giving the gift of hearing to a big gossip would be beneficial to them.
I am unhappy with the Bruno from encanto slander that is happening. He didn't abandon his family, he left to protect mirabel because he knows the burden of being the family scapegoat. After being literally outlasted and made into a ghost story he still looks after his family just from a distance to help him cope. Honestly it upset me that all the things people dont like about him are just signs of neuro divergency. He was never a villain, he is the victim of a toxic family who don't understand him.
I don't think Bruno Madrigal and Bruno Scorfano are the same person, for multiple reasons. 1. Bruno was Originally called Oscar. His name was changed to fit the lyrics "Bruno, no, no ,no". To me that makes it pretty clear that Bruno being Alberto's father is not the intended takeaway. 2. Bruno himself implies he never left. He never outright says it, but when Mirabel asks why he never left he says "... the mountains around the Encanto are pretty tall". I also always got the feeling that the village was effectively sealed off from the rest of the world, and that they hadn't had any outside contact since the mountains rose. 3. "I knew he never left I, heard him every day" isn't the only time Dolores has talked about hearing Bruno. In _We Don't Talk About Bruno_ she sings "I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling", which outright says she's still hearing Bruno, and that she's always heard him. As to why she keeps his secret, she calls his gift "humbling", so she could feel bad for him having such a pressuring gift, and respect his choice to stay hidden. Also, Dolores is 21, so she would have had her gift for 6 years before Bruno left. She would have already heard the rats and know how much noise they make on their own, and would have noticed a change when Bruno went into the walls. If he'd left for real, she would have heard no change in rat noises and have no reason to suspect anything. In conclusion, fun theory and cool video (as always), but I don't think it holds up to closer inspection.
For number 2, there is concept art of the Madrigals going to a town outside of Encanto. Whether they made it officially Canon or not though is another story
To be fair, I think the reason why Dolores spilled the beans so fast was circumstantial. Considering how she hears literally everything, she must have been able to keep some secrets. I think this one was just so earth-shattering that she couldn't keep it in. Plus Mirabel's staring may have actually pressured her to doing it in the first place.
I also think that as well and maybe the reason she spilled that secret so quickly was because it affected her gifts and everyone else in her family who has gifts too. Whereas with Bruno and not mentioning him, she is apparently 21 in the film so wouldn’t been 11? When he left and during the film it’s her parents specifically her mother saying we don’t talk about Bruno. So she probably heard him every day but couldn’t say anything because her mother basically made it taboo
i think it's even more simple. the whole reason she didn't talk about Bruno is because there was a family rule not to talk about Bruno that her mom seemed pretty keen on enforcing... enough that she sang a song about it. although in that song Delores says she hears Bruno too so still a gossip i guess...
I'm pretty sure that Bruno confirmed in Encanto that he couldn't leave the village because the mountains are too high and he's been in the wall the whole time. He also is very family oriented! He went into hiding for his niece's safety... he keeps trying to fix the wall; this is just a big miss for me.
Maby after the Madrigals That would make more sence maby he found a wife got a son Sons gift was being a sea monster And then got back were the wife and Bruno meeted the Coast in Italy and Bruno tried to protect hes son from i think Abuala bc maby she wouldent accept Alberto like other humans
New theory: Lin Manuel Miranda is actually the one who has an issue with some guy named Bruno and is using Luca and Encanto as evidence to make everyone blame Disney as a scapegoat.
@@cornybram845 I know about the whole Lin turned Oscar into Bruno thing, this was just a joke about Luca and Encanto both having Brunos that characters hate.
@@Greenyoshi72 exactly! I was saying it makes the joke even more funny since he was the one who named him (although that’s probably why you made the joke in the first place heh-)
Nooooo way I can agree with this theory. It's literally stated over and over again how much the madrigals (and specifically Bruno) loved their family. He only left because he wanted to protect Mirabel and even then constantly kept tabs on them because he loved them so much. It's completely out of character for him to just abandon his son. Also, Doloris isn't particularly quiet about the fact that she hears Bruno. She keeps saying it over and over again, but she's probably ignored and silenced by the grown-ups, since Bruno is such a taboo topic. Still think it's a really funny coincidence though!
If Encanto was a Pixar movie I would probably believe in this theory. But there is no way this theory is true if one film is made by Pixar and the other is made by Disney animation.
In Encanto, Mirabell literally says "You never really left?" to which Bruno replied "Well the mountains surrounding Encanto are pretty tall." So this would be cool in theory, but i think this is the first ever theory that I can't really get behind. Bruno basically confirmed to Mirabell that he in fact did not leave encanto
I personally dont like this theory for the sole purpose that Bruno loves his family. He disappeared after his vision about Mirabel because he knew Abuela Alma would be much crueler to Mirabel because she would interpret the vision as being Mirabels fault, regardless of the shifting between cracks and no cracks. I just cannot see Bruno abandoning his child for any reason especially after how cruel his own mother was to him.
AGREE 100%! Alberto said that his father told him he is old enough to be on his own. Bruno would never do that to a 14 year old child. He would have at least left his son with someone that would take care of him, if some vision told him he HAS TO leave him.
I also don’t think this theory holds up because it kinda says he never left and I doubt he’d go to Italy to meet someone then return to stay in the walls if he had a new tower and a child
Definitely agree with this. I've never disagreed with a super carlin theory before, but this is a first for me. Bruno loves his family, he says in the movie that he just couldn't be around them because his gift wasn't helpful. He doesn't seem like A person who would abandon his family, have a one night stand/short relationship with a random woman, and then abandon his son. He wanted to look after his family, but just couldn't be around them. I highly disagree with this theory.
I agree 100% I don't think Bruno would even do this especially due to the reasons he disappeared after Mirabel didn't get her gift. It is completely out of character for him.
There's a theory that Delores isn't actually a gossip, and is in fact a great secret keeper, but because she hears everything she knew that Isabella didn't want to marry Mariano, and the reason she did what she did at the dinner was to stop the proposal from happening, not only because she was in love with Mariano herself, but to try and save her cousin from a life she didn't want.
Honestly, I didn’t think of her as gossiping in that scene She had just learned that someone in her family might end up being a danger to the family and is in shock, it’s not that improbable that she would feel the need to tell them immediately out of that shock
It's also possible she is good at deciding what is fun gossip or vital information that needs to get out and what should stay secret. She knew Bruno didn't want to be found so she kept his secret, she probably hears stuff all the time that doesn't help anyone to come out. But that their magic might be doomed and the town might be in danger? Yikes.
I’m convinced Delores ✨embellished✨ when she said “he wants five babies” The look on her face just gives it away. She either did it to stop the engagement or simply to freak her cousin out. 😅
Remember when Dolores heard Mariano wanted five babies? Even if she was lying, that implies Abuela uses her to get information. So she's known for being a gossip. Mirabel also already knew she would tell the whole family before she did
First off, I wanna say that I applaud your attention to details that most people would miss and your dedication to creating as many points as possible. Unfortunately, I am not convinced. My overall impression is that this theory is based on one single coincidence in names that has been completely overanalyzed. Plus, Bruno mentions in Encanto that he never left Columbia at all because of how tall the surrounding mountains were, so the chances of him being in Italy are zip.
Dolores also says in “We don’t talk about Bruno” that she “CAN always hear him muttering and mumbling” not that she COULD or USED to. It also doesn’t look like anyone can come or go from the Encanto with those mountains. Not that it’s impossible but it looks like it wouldn’t be easy in sandals. My other question would be how long would it take him to travel that (almost 6000 miles by plane) distance, and with what money. Also if he did leave then that takes away from Mirabel’s argument on how much he loves his family and proves the grandma correct that he did indeed leave his family (twice if this theory was true). It would also mean he reunited with one family only to leave his child abandoned on a tiny island, regardless of what would happen in the future.
I totally agree with this. I think this theory and their description of Dolores is very flat and one-sided. She can hear everything meaning she's hearing the secrets of the entire town. I don't believe she's a gossip I think she's just quiet. But the secret of Bruno's last prophecy was too great not to share with the family.
The present tense when she talked about Bruno was definitely intentional and Mirabel was supposed to pick up on it when Dolores said "Do you understand?"
Agree! Also, when Mirabel asks Dolores about the Magic of the house she answers "you're the only one who worries... And the rats. And Lucia." I understood it as Bruno talking to the rats about the house loosing the magic and Dolores picking it up.
I think this theory has potencial, but it falls apart pretty easily. Firstly the encanto is isolated, it's the point of it, an isolated place safe from the war. Secondly, it's just not how Bruno is caracterized, he values his family's well being above all, so its unlikely he left and even if he did he would never abandon his son (or be mean to him, witch is implied in Luca). Also the argument that Bruno is an uncomon name is just not true, it may not be in the US, but in places that speak romance languages (spanish, italian, portuguese ...) it's really comon, and a most of the team working in these movies are aware of that.
Seconded, on all of this! Its always fun to pick out coincidences in movies and try to make the pieces fit together... but this one just doesn't fit at all.
I was on board until I remembered that the Encanto is literally surrounded by mountains, and was only opened near the end of the movie. And as far as we know there’s no technology that would help Bruno climb such steep and smooth mountains. And if he did make it out, I doubt he would have come all the way back just to sneak into his old house and live in the walls listening to his family talk about how they shouldn’t mention him.
Am I the only one that's getting ticked of lf by this theory. Bruno from Encanto is such an amazing character and my favorite in the movie. Everything from the moment we meet him says he's this sweet guy that people misunderstood and blamed for bad things. This theory cheapens that and makes him into this horrible person. The entire scene where they talk in the walls is meant to show us how wrong the family was about thinking that.
I agree. Bruno loves his family and I am sure that would extend to a son of his. I mean, he 'left' because he thought it would protect his (at the time) 5 year old niece.
I was also annoyed with it, so you are not alone. He’s so sweet and shy and caring that there is no WAY he would abandon his own child. He would take that child with him because family is everything to a Madrigal. Also, Enchanto is NOT a Pixar film, so linking the two actually destroys or invalidates the Pixar Theory.
I was thinking exactly this. This theory destroys the emotional beats of Bruno in Encanto. He just wouldn't leave his family because even when they shunned him, he still cared about them. That was the whole point of the ending.
I'm also the same. This theory is so far fetched and doesn't make sense. Bruno left to protect his family. But he never left officially. He was hiding in the walls that entire time. Even at the end Dolores said she knew he never left. So for him to have a child in Italy doesn't make sense. He never left Colombia.
“Silencio Bruno no no no.” I loved the intro. Everyone expected this, although it is still loved. Also, “Prophecies make people do some weird things,” is the most true statement in fiction. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the theory, but it was good. Kudos! Edit: Sorry to people who get annoyed by these, but OH GOODNESS THAT’S A LOT OF LIKES!
It's funny seeing all the comments arguing over the validity of this theory when there's one simple fact that can disprove it. Encanto is not a Pixar film, it's a Disney film. I know Disney owns Pixar and could retcon it in if they wanted, but no crossover between the Pixar universe and the Disney universe has been made yet (except Wreck it Ralph: Ralph Breaks the Internet, but that was a meta thing and it was Disney using Pixar stuff) so I don't think it's likely that the first crossover into the Pixar universe would be on some random line and a name sharing.
This theory is debunked by ONE thing Bruno says. He NEVER leaves the Encanto, let alone the house. I thought y’all out of everyone would’ve caught that.
There are many ways to debunk this theory: - Bruno states himself that the "mountains around the Encanto are pretty tall", blocking the small town from the outside world - Bruno and the other Madrigals have never left the Encanto AT ALL since Pedro - Bruno has a soft spot for his nieces and nephews, hence, why he would never abandon them - He "left" his family to protect them from him - Alberto's parents are both sea monsters - If Alberto was Bruno's son, how would he get his powers from the Casita? - ALBERTO'S SURNAME IS SCORFANO, NOT MADRIGAL (SCORFANO IS ITALIAN, MADRIGAL IS SPANISH)
I was thinking they were gonna say that Bruno’s door goes to Alberto’s world and all of it exists in his door. Would make sense too since a lot of Pixar theory has to do with doors. But then again this is Disney not Pixar and I don’t understand how that would work
Bruno left after the mountains opened, they opened in 1950 and Luca takes place in 1960. He must have left to protect Alberto or save his mother. His power is that he can be full sea monster without 2 sea monster parents.
Theory's DEFINITELY a stretch Bruno literally made the excuse he couldn't leave the Encanto due to the mountains, and he loved his family, that's why he resorted to living in the walls rather than just another place in the village, he went into hiding to protect Mirabel As for the boot, and all that, Disney is NOTORIOUS for placing little easter eggs of past or upcoming movies into their current ones
I wonder if the candle's magic in Encanto is related to the magic in Tangled. The candlelight in Encanto looks just like the candles used in "I See the Light" in Tangled.
@@end7719 hear me out, what if a second sundrop appeared in Colombia and instead of as a flower it assimilated into a person's essence directly instead of through consumption like Rapunzel's case? That person could be Pedro, or his dad or something, the "gift" of the sundrop was then passed to Pedro himself and when he died it was his memory, combined with the power of the sundrop, what imbued the candle with the Encanto's magic.
@@end7719 I mean, in tangled the series we saw the moonstone, a parallel inverse to the sundrop falling to earth and become a stone instead of a flower so getting a sundrop that becomes part of a person is not that out of the realm of possibility, I think.
Bruno wasnt originally going to be the name chosen for the character. Lin-Manuel Miranda asked to change it to Bruno, just so the lyrics 'Bruno no no no' could be possible.
I always thought the phrase “silencio Bruno” in the context of encanto is a reference to Bruno’s power of seeing into the future. So whenever Alberto says silencio Bruno he’s pretty much just saying live in the moment
Alternative interpretation of Delores: She hears everything, every secret, and every lie. She can keep secrets, and most of the time she does, but important secrets (say she heard some rather horrible things that I won't mention in case it triggers someone) she would tell someone about immediately. Mirabel being part of Bruno's vision of the magic dying is something too important to keep hidden, but she also doesn't want to interrupt Isabella's night so she passes it on to Camilo expecting it to reach Abuela, but not the Guzman's. Only for there to be no way to save Isabella's night so she has to just let it all out. The reason she doesn't say anything about Bruno is because he doesn't want Abuela to find him, and that's all she knows. She doesn't know he's hiding to protect Mirabel. (also, bringing up Bruno was probably ill-advised considering the whole "We Don't Talk About Bruno" thing)
I also think she really wanted to respect his privacy but still wanted to help lead Mirabel along the journey as best she could. Dolores is the best, an unsung hero
Normally you guys can convince me when I'm skeptical, but this time, nope. Bruno flat out says he never left, and even if he wanted to, the mountains surrounding the village are too high and difficult to pass through. Family is also very very important to him and he couldn't bring himself to actually abandon his family, even to protect Mirabel and after feeling like he was just a disappointment to his family. He'd never abandon a son if he had one.
Remember the line that Bruno said when mirabelle asked " so you've been living in the walls" , then Bruno said, " you expect me to climb over those mountains", or something like that?
I dunno, Bruno literally says that he never tried leaving. He even briefly mentions it when he talks about how the mountains around the Encanto are too high. I genuinely feel like this whole theory is a huge stretch + people being used to trying to tie everything together. But Encanto wouldn’t even fall under the whole Pixar Timeline thing anyways, because it’s not even a Pixar film. I think maybe this time y’all are trying a little too hard to tie knots that don’t even exist.
Thank you, finally someone pointed out that Encanto is NOT a Pixar film, which already makes this theory not possible, I figured Ben or J would’ve caught onto that since they’re sticklers for details and even talk about the differences between Disney and Pixar films
THIS! I was scrolling through for THIS on every point! Wish i could bump this as a top remark! Pixar and Disney Animation Studios are different universes even though they are under the same "Umbrella" of Disney. But Like D.A.S. they did nod to Frozen and Wreck It Ralph.
Exactly. Bruno said in his first scene meeting Mirabel how he never left and the mountains are too high and it kinda dissapointed me that wasn't even mentioned in the video thoigj it wasn't even a hint but straight up essential plot dialouge.
I feel like the reason Dolores didn’t tell anyone about Bruno is because she heard him talking to himself (or the rats) about how much he genuinely cared about his family, so she kept his secret because she knew if anyone else knew that he hadn’t left he would be forced to leave by the rest of the family
Yeah I'd chalk it up more to the taboo against talking about Bruno than Dolores not knowing it was him in the walls. What good would have come from telling? Would the family have driven him even further away? The two Brunos are just a coincidence. A striking one, but ultimately I don't think it would fit Bruno Madrigal's character to run away to Italy, have a son with an Italian sea monster, then abandon that son to go live in the walls of the Casita.
To anyone who disagrees with the theory, I’ve always thought that instead of Enchanto and Luca existing in the same universe, that they’re actually 2 separate universes and there is a variant of this Bruno in Luca who is Alberto’s father! There is a multiverse, and it’s beginning to break.
Honestly I really don't see Bruno leaving his home for far away Europe. He's too domestic and loyal to his roots to do this. The arguments are dismissible as coincidences. ... but of course that's just my opinion.
There are a few problems with this theory though. First off is the spoken ones, Bruno states that he's been in the walls for the entire time as well. Also, the valley in Encanto is completely shut off from the rest of the world. The miracle closed off the valley from the rest of the world and it wasn't opened until near the end of the movie when then one of the mountains split open.
Good video, however there's one crucial detail you overlooked that makes this completely impossible. When Pedro sacrifices himself not only does this create the Casita and the gifts bestowed to each children, but it also creates a wall of mountains that completely surround the village and the nearby area to prevent everyone on the outside from being able to enter and vice-versa, and it isn't until the candle goes out and the miracle is undone that the mountainous border is broken, allowing for passage in and out of the village.
I think the biggest obstacle to this theory is that the town in Encanto was both inescapable and unreachable between c. 1900 and c. 1950, due the unclimbable mountains that surrounds it. Not to mention, Bruno was aware of the danger to Mirabel since 1940. The whole point of the movie was that Bruno **wouldn't** abandon his family. He hid in the walls for 10 years because he **refused** to abandon his family. While I don't subscribe to it, there's an ongoing fan theory that Bruno is Mirabel's biological father simply because we see he cares so deeply for her. Let's put that all aside. Let's say Bruno did abandon his family and managed to scale the mountain. He makes his way to the Colombian coast. How does he charter a ship? He's been in a small village that hasn't maybe used money in 40 years. Even if he's collected enough old money from a village founded by refugees, the currency of Colombia has changed *five* times since he was a baby. And he decides to go to fascist Italy during WWII? The man who was not married in Catholic village at the age of 40 falls in love with a sea monster lady, has a child, gets widowed, and decides to abandon his preteen son to return to his village, which is, by the way, not on any map, long enough for one of his nieces to assume he's been there the entire time?
@@SleettheIcewing Right?! So would the theory be that Bruno had Mirabel with someone in town but then the family decided to pass her off as one of Julieta's kids? I meeeeaaaan, if we go by the 1950s setting, it could work. Families in the 50s dealt with teen pregnancy by lying to the community and the kid by saying that their mother was their sister, so 🤷🏾♀️
No, the mountains open in 1950, that's when he left. He didn't abandon anyone, something happened. Maybe he saw a vision of Alberto's mom and thought he was going to be back sooner.
I agree. In Luca, they say "Silent, Bruno!" and how Bruno in Encanto tells everyone stuff like "Your fish will die" or something, in Luca, they are telling Bruno to stay silent. And also, in Luca, Alberto said "Bruno always says 'Your gonna hurt yourself!'" This is crazily related and an awesome theory!
@@uhmkaii7503 And If this theory is true then this quote implies that something might have happened to The Madrigals’s or Bruno’s Wife for Bruno to be constantly repeating this quote. Only problem is that….apparently if you go out of the island…..trying to find it will be no use, you are lost from the Encanto.
When Bruno and Mirabel are talking she says something about him never leaving the house and he said "No." because the mountains were too high. Kinda hard to get to Italy from Columbia if you can't even get out of the valley.
To be fair that sounded made up because he didn't want to admit the real reason. I still don't think this works unless Bruno's memory was magically altered, because he wouldn't abandon a child for four years.
@@hunterlawrence3573 the only reason Maribel and her grandma were able to get to the river at the end is because the mountain cracked creating a gap. There were no means of exiting the valley prior to this
@@hunterlawrence3573 Except the fact Bruno already said in the film that the mountains were too high, This theory has nothing to back it besides coincidence, there is a multitude of reasons for this theory to fall apart
@@laurenprescott2352 In the film, he claimed the mountains were really tall, but Maribel realized the real reason was because he didn’t want to be away from his family. Again, I don’t think this theory is true, but I don’t think the mountains are the reason it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work because leaving Alberto is out of character for Bruno.
While all of your points make total sense, there's one issue. Bruno wouldn't abandon a child. He'd only abandon them if he didn't know about them, and then everything you said would fall apart.
@@wylanvallotton4462 planes 2 was made by disney and pixar, which is why planes 2 is canon to pixar universe, and maybe as well in disney . Same case with Luca. But Encanto is pure disney film, which means it is canon only to disney universe
@@crazymartin526Planes 2 was Disney with permission from Pixar because they didn't want to persue it further. However, the point is that Disney and Pixar things aren't always exclusive of each other. Another example: Doc McStuffins. It's not officially said to be in the toy story world, but it is very clearly in it. It even has pizza planet in an episode.
I think Luca happens after Encanto, since one of the mountains stays split, Bruno might've left to see the World. Alberto's gift would be Hydrokinesis.
It's actually disappointing how you interpreted Bruno and sorta villainize him, doing exactly what his family did to him.. further dehumanized a character who has already been diminished because of his absence. "As Bruno had been fighting to maintain the smallest connection to his family, they had been banned from even saying his name, slowly twisting the truth about him over time. Perhaps the greatest miracle of Disney's Encanto movie is that Bruno never grew bitter during his long years spent alone." Aside from that, I suppose this was a fun video but a far stretch from making a connection between the two. It would have been nice to see a more in depth analysis of this character instead.
I'm sure it was never their intention to dehumanize Bruno, if anything they maybe just wanted to find answers and pointed at the easiest person to "blame"
I feel like he’s not bringing up the fact that when Mirabel interrogates Bruno, he says that one of the reasons why he didn’t leave was because the mountains around the encanto are pretty tall, meaning that he wouldn’t have the motivation to leave Columbia to begin with. If anything, it makes more sense to say that after the mountain was split in half at the end of Encanto, then and only then did he go to Italy, meet Alberto’s mom, and then after some time, abandoned him.
While there is plenty of evidence to support Bruno(from Luca) being Alberto’s missing father, I believe the director or one of the writers or something already confirmed that that isn’t the case. That it was just some name that they chose. I also spoke to an Italian person who suggested he could’ve misheard the word “bruco” which is “caterpillar” and in Italy they have a saying about a caterpillar in your head being annoying or something(it’s been a while since that conversation so I may be remembering things wrong.) I personally like the idea of him just having heard a couple of fishermen arguing and taking that phrase and making a whole thing out of it. Besides, Bruno leaving his tower was not him abandoning his family, he left because he was tired of being blamed for bad things happening that were out of his control. I find it very difficult to believe he would leave his own child especially in another country across the ocean. I’d be more inclined to believe he met a sea monster in the river near the Encanto and she left before he could ever find out she was pregnant and SHE left him alone in Italy… but that’s not Alberto’s story of course, he never mentions his mother. Also… Bruno isn’t an uncommon name. Maybe for English countries, sure, but Italy and Colombia??? It’s fairly common. Pretty sure everyone living in either country knows at least ONE person named Bruno or knows someone who knows someone named Bruno.
It's a fun idea, but I have actually seen Encanto, so the theory falls flat on its face. Why? In Encanto we are given several reasons why Bruno did not leave the family. My personal favourite: The mountains around the village is quite tall.
Oof, glad to see I wasn't the only one that wasn't happy with the suggestion that Bruno Madrigal would abandon a child. When Ben said it was in character for him to abandon family I literally went "WHUT?!" out loud. Nope, Bruno never left, simple as.
@@UnicornBlueLifeUltraSienna but it would still have been grossly out of character for him to abandon a child completely alone. Even if Bruno had been able to get out and then back through the mountains and all the way to Italy, he *never* would have left Alberto alone. In the vid he said that it's in character for Bruno to abandon his family, but that completely misses the point of why he left. Also, at that point, Alberto would have been his family as well. When he "abandoned" his family, he felt it was for the greater good, to protect Mirabel from being ostracized like he was, but Alberto is literally a kid who didn't have any support or people in his life
Ok but I thought no one could come in or out of the village up until Casita “dies” and breaks the mountain range surrounding them. It was my understanding that Maribel was the first person to leave the village in 50 years. Which would explain why Bruno never left. After Maribel’s ceremony he would have tried to get as far away as possible but once he realized he CANT leave the village he would have come back to the one place he knew he could stay hidden; Casita. Plus, family is the most important thing to Bruno. It’s the reason he goes into hiding; to “protect” them. He would have never ABANDONED a family member on an island all alone. ESPECIALLY when he knows first hand what it’s like. First time I completely disagree with you guys. Trash theory.
Same here. Even regardless of if Bruno could see that Alberto would be okay, Bruno loves his family too much to CONSIDER leaving a CHILD alone on an island. If he’d had a kid and was able to, I believe he would have brought him home to be with the rest of his family.
The miracle put up the ring of mountains, creating an entire valley. People could likely go anywhere in said valley, they just had one village though. Also, I don't think Mirabel left the miracles boundaries either. She went to where the miracle was born, which was inside the valley.
I'm sorry, but it's too far fetched for me. It sort of sounds plausible when you ignore a whole lot of facts and circumstances in-universe and real-universe, but I think the writers were just having a little bit of fun and throwing easter eggs around. Bruno also sings about "Let it go" - does that mean he has a connection to Elsa? Probably not. Also in the TinkerBell series "The secret of the wings", which came out in 2012, Fairy Mary also says "Let it go" in connection to baskets made for carrying snowflakes. I always interpreted it as said above, since Frozen came out in 2013, so back then it seems sort of like an inside joke between the writers. So after Frozen came out and people (re-)watched TinkerBell, people would immediately think about Elsa, without necessarily realising that this movie came out before Frozen.
Nah. Bruno left to protect his family, and even then he couldn't bring himself to go far. Plus *he* says he didn't leave because "the mountains around the Encanto are pretty high". I think Dolores just respected that he had a reason for hiding out in the walls. Either that or she is more afraid of either Bruno or her abuela than she is of Mirabel (Bruno because of what people, read her brother Camilo, have to say about him. Her abuela because she was angry about him leaving.). Real talk... Bruno wouldn't leave his kid. I have a better, more wholesome theory for you. Julieta also knew that Bruno was hiding in the walls. Allow me to explain. Julieta, understandably, seems to be in charge of food preparation. This is important, because she knows the kitchen, and she would be on top of grocery shopping, etc. If Bruno was there, acquiring "free food" as we know he is, for *10 years*, there is no way she wouldn't notice the food going missing. Combine that with the fact that it starts right after he disappeared... it's not hard to put the pieces together. But wait! There's more! I don't think she just knows he's there. She is also intentionally making extra food so that there is always enough for him to eat. Firstly, Julieta doesn't have the same animosity that the town and even the rest of the family seem to have for him. She never refuses to talk about him like the others, and when she does talk about him she is sad. It's clear that she misses him. But that alone doesn't prove anything, so... we actually see her make more food than necessary in the movie! The apres de quesos that she makes when Mirabel hurts her hand? She makes three. The only one we see being eaten is Mirabel's, but Julieta may have had one too. Either way, she made more then what was needed. The icing on the theory cake? Guess what Bruno is eating when we see him later in the film. That's right. Apres de queso. Julieta is secretly taking care of her brother.
As much as I wanted to agree with this theory, doing so would leave this question open: why didn't she look for him much sooner? I don't understand why she would leave him in that place to his own fate. Make more sense to me that Julieta is making so much food simply because you never know who's going to show up so hungry. Also her face is one of real surprise when she sees it in the ending song, like, omg where have you been all this time. I totally agree with you in the first part anyway
@@_Egon I think she might just not have known where exactly he was hiding and/or couldn't find him. I mean, him being in the walls is kinda crazy and not a logical place to look at all. Also, she didn't know why exactly he left, so she may have been trying to respect whatever his reason was for leaving. As far as her surprise... I have a couple of thoughts. 1) If you didn't see someone for 10 years, even if you knew they were close, wouldn't you be surprised? I see people at the grocery store after seeing them a half hour before and get surprised by it. 😆 2) He has been living in the walls for 10 years, so he hasn't exactly been keeping up with himself, plus aging. She could have been surprised by his appearance. 3) My personal favorite: I don't believe she's shocked to see Bruno. I think she's shocked to see their mother bringing Bruno back into the family.
My thoughts about Dolores knowing Bruno was there the entire time is that she is such a gossip about 'other' things so that she can keep quite about the really important stuff, like Bruno. With all that she hears, there are probably lots of things that happen that really shouldn't be revealed to the entire town, so to help cope with knowing all these secrets, she talks about anything else. Knowing the fact that they were going to discuss it later and just not at the dinner, as well as the fact that she probably didn't want the proposal to go super well because of her own feelings, I believe she felt safe blurting that out for the family to hear right away rather than keeping it in. Just my thoughts though ^-^
God can you imagine hearing EVERYTHING and EVERYONE since 5 years old? I know silence is defeaning and makes you go insane but hearing even the mice in the walls already sounds horrible to me, but imagine hearing all the bugs too???? And she lives in a TROPICAL FOREST
I don't think Dolores is really a gossip at all. We never explicitly see her 'gossiping' in the movie. In we don't talk about Bruno she is warning Mirabel and later on in the dinner scene I'm not surprised she tells her family about what she saw, her baby cousin is getting herself into something that might cause her harm, I'd be concerned too.
I really like this theory, I really do. But there's a detail that doesn't line up, that being Bruno's character: everything about him screams about dedication to his family so why leave Alberto on his own while he could simply bring him back to Encanto? As you pointed out: a sea monster would actually considered pretty normal among the other Madrigals and their gifted members. Another point to be made, is the fact that there's no door for Alberto, not even a blank one for him to reclame in case he comes back. Of course, we don't know how the doors work in casita, but i think that somehow Alberto should've been able to manifest some powers, if he was really related to Bruno
Just knowing Bruno, I don’t think he is the father. He loves family. He left because he didn’t want his niece to be an outcast of the family. But he stayed close because he loves them and didn’t want to be away he got to see them have dinner and he eat with them. I think if he did have a family of his own he wouldn’t leave and not come back.
I already knew this theory was coming but it simply cannot be true. 1.) You're actually incorrect about Dolores. It is stated, in the wiki, that she knows everyone's dirt but does NOT appear to be much of a gossip. I think the house loosing its magic just freaked her out which is why she spilled. I think even she knows that she can't understand rats, she just said "rats" as a cover for Bruno because she kept him there as a secret. And why would she tell everyone else? Its obvious he left for a reason and literally everyone was saying he's a bad person. She was quite literally the only person defending him in the song. 2.) Bruno himself stated that he knew his gift wasn't helping his family but he could never leave them which leads to #3. Bruno would never leave his child like that. He cares about family to much and to leave his own son is not something he'd do.
That…has to be the most red string theory I’ve ever heard on this channel. In “we don’t talk about Bruno” she literally says “it’s like I can hear him now, I can hear him now, I can hear him now!” She is literally telling everyone that he’s still there.
I think it is personally just a coincidence! First, they are 2 different studios! Also, there is a very simple reason why Dolores didn’t tell anyone that Bruno was still living in the house! It’s because “we don’t talk about Bruno!” 🎶🎶
ENCANTO wasn't set in the 50s, the original concept art did base it in the 50s and artists gave the characters more 50s styled clothing but it was changed. It is loosely set at the turn of the 20th century
@@randomnerdery6511 there's plenty of videos about it on UA-cam where they've referenced original concept art and interviews etc- 😂😂😂 I'm not going to just make stuff up it's all a Google/UA-cam/ENCANTO Instagram feed search away
@@randomnerdery6511 ua-cam.com/video/KUd7nJJtM6M/v-deo.html but here's a video about concept art (with the original 50s clothing) and deleted characters
There is one thing that is stopping this theory from being true… when Mariel finds bruno he says he could never leave because the mountains around the town were to big so Bruno never left… alright great theory
I have to point out that Bruno it's a pretty common name in Italy, and a common Latinamerian name (and it's a lastname too!). Plus, Bruno never left the house, even when he was rejected and you bealive that same person can even think of abandon his own child!!
It's common in the Latin-based languages and in the countries where they are spoken... Like in France and French territories... So common that xennials would often have several pupils named Bruno in their class back in the 80s and 90s... and with the comeback of short first names that occurred in France around 2010, it's still a fairly common name in younger generations...
I really dont think that the man who chose to live in the F****NG walls because he couldn't bear to leave his family would be capable of abandoning his OWN SON to his luck. Besides, it's heavily implied that he never left at all, so there's no way that he would have ended up in Italy. Now, maybe Alberto and/or his dad met Bruno at some point and had a tendency to tell him to shut up when he gave them advice/prophecies, or something like that; that would still give us a connection/explain the whole "silencio Bruno" thing without being HORRIBLY out of character for him.
All the comments saying he didn't leave the Encanto are right BUT Bruno left AFTER Mirabel saves the miracle, after he made amends, after the mountains opened in 1950. Luca takes place after Encanto, in 1960. The timing is perfect.
I actually don't see Dolores as that much of a gossip. I think that's a very surface-level view of her character. I think the gossiping at the almost-proposal dinner was to prevent the proposal, as she was in love with Mariano, and she had something big that could stop it. I think Dolores knows SO MUCH stuff, and actually keeps a lot of stuff a secret-including Bruno being in the walls. If she can hear poetry across town, especially just that he's writing it, not performing, she must know everything that's happening around town. I also think it comes down to wanting to protect the family. She wants to protect Bruno, and telling her family, especially Abuela, that he's still there, might cause him to be thrown out. She might even be helping feed him.
You have to remember that Dolores was like 14 when Bruno left and there was already so much negative with him. Ubuela was so strict with everyone and probably so upset when Bruno left, thinking he abandoned the family that she probably just forbid his name, I don't think she went looking for him like when Mirabel ran. So I imagine that if this 14 year old girl came and said "he's in the walls", she was probably shut down like everyone else was.
My theory is that Delores intentionally wrecked that dinner. I mean the man of her dreams was literally about to propose to her cousin who was only going to accept out of obligation.
That actually makes a lot of sense. I don't get why she couldn't hold onto that secret for more than five seconds, but then had managed to keep Bruno's presence secret for 10 years
It would be interesting if a Russian Revolution style attack happened on the Madrigals and the only survivor would be Alberto, and he would see in the news, recognize Bruno, and realize he was the last Madrigal, being forced to pick up the torch and carry on the legacy!
I'm sorry, but this is a bad theory. This only works if you ignore a KEY character trait-Bruno's love for his family, as well as his innocence and purity. "My gift wasn’t helping the family, but I love my family, ya know?" he stayed. He stayed even it it caused him immense grief and pain. This theory implies that Bruno is a bad person overall, and all evidence in Encanto point to the opposite. NOT TO MENTION "I CAN always hear HIM sort of muttering and mumbling, I ASSOCIATE him with the sound of falling sand ch ch ch." I mean come on. Now that's just lazy video writing. Rather disappointed with this one fellas.
i feel like a cooler theory would be that in the Pixar universe the story of Encanto is just a fairy tale people tell their children and that the idea of “silencio bruno” is something alberto’s dad could have taught him- almost as a way of saying “you can change what the prophecy says if you believe it’s not true” or “don’t listen to what people tell you is going to happen”
I was about to mention this. Bruno can be interpreted as "the anxious voice in your mind that tells you the things that may go wrong in the future". And it's kind of what happened to Bruno and his family, he would see the future, tell them and because they listened and though that was the only truth, it happened. So by saying "Silencio Bruno" they are saying, I have control of my destiny, I can change the future and I'll be brave to do so"
Also, when Abuela received the miracle, mountains were raised to protect the villagers from dangers outside, meaning that there was hardly any way to go outside. And Bruno doesnt have the ability to fly, so... yeah?
It's interesting, but ultimately goes against Bruno's character. The reason he is living in the walls is because he couldn't bear to leave his family, and the reason he left in the first place is to protect his family! So the idea of him abandoning his son doesn't feel right AT ALL.
Can't all be winners. Bruno never left his family, blocked off by the moutains even if he wanted to and even then this takes place in the Colombian mountains. Not Italy.
You question why Alberto uses the name Scorfano instead of Madrigal, but there is some evidence to suggest that in sea monster cultures, it's the husband who takes the wife's name. Luca's grandmother is listed in the credits as "grandma Paguro" but Daniela calls her "mom."
i think Dolores was literal because she also says it in “we don’t talk about bruno” how she hears him in the walls i think that its not that she didnt gossip about it but that no one believes her when she says hes in the walls; its a cool theory but definitely just coincidence
@@montebeverly237 i could see that but she said “i can always hear him” if she meant it as past tense it would have made more sense to say i could (full line im quoting for reference is “I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling I associate him with the sound of falling sand, ch ch ch”
Actually at the end of the song (when Isabella says "Hey sis', I want not a sound out of you"), Dolores even says "it's like I hear him now, I can hear him now". And she sounds a little bit terrified that she is, in fact, hearing him NOW.
@@alexismarie3075 I can see that also but because I personally don’t puke feel like if this theory is true I sticking with the past tense route. Also with the falling sand part from what I understand from the movie Bruno did not use his gift since he had the vision of Mirabel so if she was still hearing him for 10 years everyday after he “left” wouldn’t you stop associating him with falling sand which is connected to his gift which he has not used in 10 years?
Tbh I think this all is just coincidence, bruno's name was different for a while untill lin-manuel and the team started the music process as far as I know
As soon as I saw this character was named Bruno, I used my gift of seeing the future to know that you guys would put out this theory haha. That being said, I gotta agree with the rest of the commenters, it's way too out of character for Bruno to abandon a family member, or even leave the house (it's important to the story's message that Bruno loves the family so much that he wants to stay with them, he just feels his gift wasn't good enough and he was hurting the family instead "My gift wasn't helping the family but I love my family you know?", and to protect Mirabel), and the majority of this evidence feels like a stretch or something that was misunderstood. Also, I have no doubt Dolores could actually hear him, even in the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" number, she says "I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling", which I take to be literal and in the present, and then right after shows that she understands the pain he went through having his visions misunderstood and bad things always being blamed on him (since you guys like Pokemon too, think Absol, the Pokemon that can predict disasters and then ends up getting blamed for them). Through that small set of lines she has in that song, it's clear to me that she knows the family would be unfairly cruel to him if he were to be revealed, so why would she out him?
In the movie during mealtimes, we see Dolores knock on the wall Bruno was hiding behind to get his intention and communicate to him since she must know he tries to attend family meals. I think that proves she knew he was there the entire time without confirmation bias
@@lilmisschrystyle3140 I saw the clip too and she very clearly moves her right hand in a knocking motion against the wall while dancing lol likely sneakily knocking on the wall-
I’m not sure the name has anything to do with lore because Bruno from encanto was originally going to be called Oscar but Bruno sounded better for his song.
I don’t like this theory at all. Bruno is shown throughout the movie to deeply care about his family. From the fact he made himself a place/plate at the dinner table behind the wall, to the fact that he straight up hid himself away rather than tell Abeula his vision of Mirabel to protect her, it shows he loves his family to his core. I could never picture him leaving his family home and country only to leave his second family as well. That just seems totally unlike Bruno to me. (Also the whole company thing of Encanto being Disney and Luca being Pixar. As well as Lin Manuel Maranda changing his name because of a song.)
i love all y’all’s theories , but i gotta strongly disagree on this one , bruno only left because he loves his family and wanted to protect them . his life was so negatively affected by his family not treating him well , i can in no world image him abandoning his own child
I’ve been saying this forever and thought I was the only one who thought this! I’ve been trying to persuade my grandmother for weeks now. More factual evidence- Columbia broke away from Spain in 1810. After that a TON of Italians moved to Columbia. So my theory is that Abeula’s parents or grandparents left Italy and moved to Columbia. And Bruno knew this so when he “left” he wanted to see if he could find any of his family over there. And he got some chick pregnant. My theory on Alberto though is a bit different. I think Alberto’s gift was to turn into a sea monster. When his mom found out about this, she left because it scared her and that’s why the entire town know about the sea monsters and want to hunt them. Because she told them sea monsters exist.
I get the points about Bruno being a great character and all...but have we considered the fact that Luca takes place in *italy* and Encanto in *Columbia*
I think Delores did actually know he was there. She outright says, "I can hear him now" during the song, "We don't talk about Bruno." No one listens to her. She hears everything and gossips so much, but no one actually listens to her or takes her seriously. I'm usually on board with most of your theories, but I'm going to have to disagree with this one.
honestly, as an older sister, to me, that line felt more like "I told you so". Specifically because she is such a gossip girl If she did hear him (and I mean...) she probably told someone (most likely Camilo) and got the same answer Mirabel did. I think that because of the song 'We don't talk about Bruno' the entire time she sings it feels off compared to the rest of her family like she is trying to tell Mirabel something (she literally starts by shushing Mirabel and "acting along"). Another counterpoint: Bruno himself confirms he never left the house when he tells Mirabel that the mountains are too high. It would be interesting, but there are just too many things that don't cooperate when I'm looking at the story as a whole.
I feel like Dolores definitely knew Bruno was there. In the song, she talks about Bruno in the present tense. She also identifies the sound in of an eye twitching as coming from Luisa specifically even though it’s said that that almost never happens.
Let's start with Luca is Pixar and Encanto is Disney. Then we can go on to how would Bruno have gotten to Italy when he couldn't leave the Encanto. And as many people have already pointed out, Bruno loves his family. He never left his family there's no way he'd leave his own son. Dolores straight up says that she always hears him muttering and stumbling. It's possible that she just knew better than to bring it up because "we don't talk about Bruno." It's be clearly indoctrinated in her that Tiò Bruno is a topic that is off limits, we see how upset Pepa gets just at the mention of her brother's name. This leads me to doubt that she'd ever bring up the possibility that Bruno is hiding within the walls of Casita. I don't agree with this theory and frankly I find it a bit disheartening not to let such a beautiful story stand on its on. There's no reason at all it needed to be connected to any other movie for any reason other than perhaps trying to see how it plays into the new Disney Renaissance.
What do you think!? Is Bruno Alberto's Father?!!
Most definitely 💯💯💯💯💯✅✅✅✅👍👍
just watched the movie... when they first said Bruno... I was like Silentio, Bruno
Luca is a Pixar/Disney Classic
@woozle It’s a bit ambiguous
I really don't think so
I would agree with this however, the director of Encanto talked about how Bruno’s name was supposed to be Oscar. But Lin Manuel asked to change it to Bruno for the song to rhyme haha
Works out anyway!
@@SuperCarlinBrothers yeah that’s what I was thinking. Even though it was Lin’s idea, it still is part of the story.
Lin always knew
bruno is so much better tbh
We don’t talk about Oscar, car, car, car
I heavily disagree, actually. The only reason Bruno abandoned his family was to PROTECT them, and especially Mirabel. The idea that he would abandon a child is HORRIBLY against what personality we see in the movie. In addition, though he leaves, Bruno cannot bring himself to leave his family, itself, which is where he has stayed. In addition, the whole point of the character is that he is innocent, and a pure soul. To do what he would have to have done that this theory claims, would be horribly against his character. And that utterly blows the theory out of the water.
Not to mention one is a Picsart film and the other is a Disney film, I actually thought encounter was a Picsart film until I saw it in theatres, but once I knew I completely defunct this theory in my mind, especially after watching the film.
Agreed Bruno even says the mountains are tall that’s why he never left. He never actually left he just left there site he was always living in the walls though
@@stephaniequintana3072 Yes, I think you can interpret what to Laura sit in many different ways, she even insert it in the Bruno song, so while she may not have known 100% that he was there, I think she did know in some capacity that someone was there.
But what if he leaves and dies in the future? That is why he never came back? He was gonna go check something and died because of it. So his intention was not to leave Alberto to fend for himself, but to come back after a day or two maybe?
He saw something horrible would happen and tried to stop it, but it resulted in his death. Maybe he saved his son or family or something.
@@AshleysAdvice Do you mean Pixar? Never heard of Picsart.
I feel that if Bruno was actually Alberto's dad, it'd likely be after the events of Encanto. Mainly because no one could leave due to the mountains until the movie's conclusion. Maybe Bruno decided to visit the coast after the mountains opened up, fell in love with a sea monster, and decided to move to Italy to be part of the sea monster's family. Then he wound up seeing a future that drove him to leave. Like, maybe Bruno foresaw his own death and didn't want to freak Alberto out or potentially drag Alberto into danger? The whole "silencio Bruno" thing could've been a phrase Bruno himself made because he still blamed his powers for causing chaos rather than just sensing it.
I like this theory
I think this makes much more sense. I still don't think he would abandon his son, but what you suggest could be possible.
You guys know Bruno is 50, right?
@@kylieewilber you can 1000% still father a child at 50 lol.
@@kylieewilber There’s people who have children at 80 years old. Also this is a disney movie you’re trying to apply real world science to.
The thing is, in actuality, the director of Luca even said himself, he just randomly chose the name Bruno for that line as it was spur of the moment and apologized to those named Bruno. In Encanto, Lin Manuel Miranda himself said that the Encanto Bruno was originally named Oscar but he asked to change it so he could work it into a song better. Otherwise, it's a fun what if idea.
"We don't talk about Oscar-ar-ar-ar..."
Yeah, good call lol
Yeahhhh it’s not Fun Idea when it’s completely against a character’s characterization and story arc.
I say it should become a running gag now in movies that take place in countries with languages that have Latin roots
Unfortunately, Bruno wasn’t ever able to escape the Encanto and says so himself, stating the mountains were too tall. Also, it’s very doubtful that bruno would abandon his son/someone who is just as close as family, cause even when Bruno in Encanto *abandoned* his family he never truly left. Finally, it’s a LOOOOOOONG way from Colombia to Italy so that’s just an extra doubt.
THANK YOU the man lived in the walls because he loved his family and wanted to protect them, but couldn’t bare leaving them (personally I think using the mountains as an excuse was just him trying to downplay his hurt so Mirabel wouldn’t feel more sorry for him) And this guy is trying to convince me that this same man would just leave his kid?? And as you said, Italy and Colombia are so far a part, when would Bruno even be able to travel?? He’s never left the Encanto, and was hiding in Casita’s walls for 10 years and you can’t tell me he started to travel after the events of the movie, why would he do that? He spent so much time just missing his family and longing to reunite with them.
As you said, it just doesn’t make sense for his character.
For the first part true. But playing with the idea that the theory is true I feel like Bruno would leave if he had a vision of something terrible happening to Alberto involving him so in order for it to not come true he took himself out of the picture to try and help. Yes it’s still terrible but I feel like that goes along with his character and about how he would do anything if it means helping his family even if it includes actually abandoning them.
It would also explain why Luca’s Bruno is seen as so overprotective it’s because he’s trying to do everything he can think of to keep his son safe because he loves his family
@@montebeverly237 I agree that would probably be the only reason he would leave Alberto, however, leaving him alone without anyone to care for him? That’s when I think it falls apart again, I think he would sooner bring his kid with him than leave him, or at the least make sure he was taken care of before he left especially if it was a vision of his kid being in danger.
That being said, I like it as a fanfic idea rather than as a theory
Edit: typo
@@Morning_Starr true
I usually agree with you, but Bruno didn't abandon his family. He said he loves his family and that he never left because of that. He only hid himself because everyone blamed him for their futures, instead of realizing he had no control over what it was. He was afraid he was just hurting everyone. He didn't run away to save himself. He ran away to save everyone else.
Honestly I'm really disappointed in this theory. Bruno is obviously a very quirky but sweet guy. He had so much love he didn't even go off to start his own life (outside of this theory), instead he stayed in side the walls patching up the cracks with out anyone even knowing.
I really hate that this theory makes him seem like he's this dead beat bad guy who just abandons people, when that isn't the case at all.
Y'all dropped the ball on this one. Sorry guys.
Th@ exactly w@ I said about this theory.
yeah honestly Im not a big fan of that either and I think all the "similarities" he mentioned are really far fetched (like wow he wears a bucket head and alberto gave luca a spaghettis strainer head, what a coincidence) but I just like the idea of Hispanic superpower alberto
100%, theory shouldn’t have been given runtime on a video
@@e-todlonghair2856 That's how I felt too. Like they were really reaching in this video. None of the things they pointed out were even close to the correlations that other movies have.
Exactly
In “We Don’t Talk About Bruno”, Dolores says “I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling”. I think she knew he was there, but chose not to tell anyone because she understands what it’s like to have an invasive gift like seeing people’s future or hearing literally everything - shown by “it’s a heavy lift with a gift so humbling”. And because of that, Bruno being in the house became a secret she was willing to keep (and something not as extreme as a vision of the family’s magic being destroyed which would be much harder to keep quiet about).
A post I've seen that I really liked, was this person talking about how Dolores likely has an understanding of Bruno no one else has. Everyone can control their powers EXCEPT Dolores and Bruno. Dolores can tune into things, but she just has her super hearing, whereas Bruno can have a vague idea of what he wants to see but he has no control over WHAT he sees. (Where as the other just use their powers, like lifting strong things in Luisa's case or consciously shapeshifting like Camilo.)
I just liked the idea of she knew but was able to keep it secret since she understood.
She also said at the end that she heard him every night
Her room is also right next to his secret door
Yeah
You have a point there
I disagree with this theory entirely, simply put, Delores isn't that much of a gossip, she shares a huge and important piece of information with the family; and only answers questions directed to her. Her mom was the main person who insisted not talking about Bruno so she probably learned from an early age to stay quiet about sounds in the walls.
Bruno also doesn't seem like the type to abandon his kid either, he is all about his family, even as an outcast. I made the same joke though about the similar name usage when it came out.
there's literally a song saying they don't talk about him and everyone is expecting her to talk about him. i mean she does, but she needed to be sneaky about it.
@@markbott7753 it did seem like she might've hinted it at Camillo and she definitely hinted it at Mirabel
@@riduanaqil1452 I mean, she literally, now I'm gonna quote the song. "Grew to live in fear of Bruno stuttering and stumbling. I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling. I associate him with the sound of falling sand."
She knows he's there, almost certainly tried to tell Abuela, but was consistently silenced because she (and the rest of the family) don't want to pay attention to their black-sheep.
o.o
I agree that she isn't much of a gossip. It was just too big to keep to herself as it effected the whole family. The gifts are given because of the personality of the person receiving the gift and to be a help to the family and the community. I think Delores was always the quiet type who listens more than speaks and as such received a gift that allowed her to hear more. I don't see how giving the gift of hearing to a big gossip would be beneficial to them.
I am unhappy with the Bruno from encanto slander that is happening. He didn't abandon his family, he left to protect mirabel because he knows the burden of being the family scapegoat. After being literally outlasted and made into a ghost story he still looks after his family just from a distance to help him cope. Honestly it upset me that all the things people dont like about him are just signs of neuro divergency. He was never a villain, he is the victim of a toxic family who don't understand him.
Whoever is slandering Bruno is the problem ... That's why he lived in the walls and people are still talking sht about him smh
He's so sweet how could you hate him
I don't think Bruno Madrigal and Bruno Scorfano are the same person, for multiple reasons.
1. Bruno was Originally called Oscar. His name was changed to fit the lyrics "Bruno, no, no ,no". To me that makes it pretty clear that Bruno being Alberto's father is not the intended takeaway.
2. Bruno himself implies he never left. He never outright says it, but when Mirabel asks why he never left he says "... the mountains around the Encanto are pretty tall". I also always got the feeling that the village was effectively sealed off from the rest of the world, and that they hadn't had any outside contact since the mountains rose.
3. "I knew he never left I, heard him every day" isn't the only time Dolores has talked about hearing Bruno. In _We Don't Talk About Bruno_ she sings "I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling", which outright says she's still hearing Bruno, and that she's always heard him. As to why she keeps his secret, she calls his gift "humbling", so she could feel bad for him having such a pressuring gift, and respect his choice to stay hidden. Also, Dolores is 21, so she would have had her gift for 6 years before Bruno left. She would have already heard the rats and know how much noise they make on their own, and would have noticed a change when Bruno went into the walls. If he'd left for real, she would have heard no change in rat noises and have no reason to suspect anything.
In conclusion, fun theory and cool video (as always), but I don't think it holds up to closer inspection.
For number 2, there is concept art of the Madrigals going to a town outside of Encanto. Whether they made it officially Canon or not though is another story
@@rhijones382 that is quite helpful
What if luca happens after encanto?
What if something happens that makes bruno leave Alberto for a reason?
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To be fair, I think the reason why Dolores spilled the beans so fast was circumstantial. Considering how she hears literally everything, she must have been able to keep some secrets. I think this one was just so earth-shattering that she couldn't keep it in. Plus Mirabel's staring may have actually pressured her to doing it in the first place.
I also think that as well and maybe the reason she spilled that secret so quickly was because it affected her gifts and everyone else in her family who has gifts too. Whereas with Bruno and not mentioning him, she is apparently 21 in the film so wouldn’t been 11? When he left and during the film it’s her parents specifically her mother saying we don’t talk about Bruno. So she probably heard him every day but couldn’t say anything because her mother basically made it taboo
i think it's even more simple. the whole reason she didn't talk about Bruno is because there was a family rule not to talk about Bruno that her mom seemed pretty keen on enforcing... enough that she sang a song about it. although in that song Delores says she hears Bruno too so still a gossip i guess...
I'm pretty sure that Bruno confirmed in Encanto that he couldn't leave the village because the mountains are too high and he's been in the wall the whole time. He also is very family oriented! He went into hiding for his niece's safety... he keeps trying to fix the wall; this is just a big miss for me.
this
Maby after the Madrigals
That would make more sence maby he found a wife got a son Sons gift was being a sea monster
And then got back were the wife and Bruno meeted the Coast in Italy and Bruno tried to protect hes son from i think Abuala bc maby she wouldent accept Alberto like other humans
New theory: Lin Manuel Miranda is actually the one who has an issue with some guy named Bruno and is using Luca and Encanto as evidence to make everyone blame Disney as a scapegoat.
Pretty sure Lin was the one who named Bruno in Encanto
@@cornybram845 I know about the whole Lin turned Oscar into Bruno thing, this was just a joke about Luca and Encanto both having Brunos that characters hate.
@@Greenyoshi72 exactly! I was saying it makes the joke even more funny since he was the one who named him (although that’s probably why you made the joke in the first place heh-)
Nooooo way I can agree with this theory. It's literally stated over and over again how much the madrigals (and specifically Bruno) loved their family. He only left because he wanted to protect Mirabel and even then constantly kept tabs on them because he loved them so much. It's completely out of character for him to just abandon his son. Also, Doloris isn't particularly quiet about the fact that she hears Bruno. She keeps saying it over and over again, but she's probably ignored and silenced by the grown-ups, since Bruno is such a taboo topic. Still think it's a really funny coincidence though!
If Encanto was a Pixar movie I would probably believe in this theory. But there is no way this theory is true if one film is made by Pixar and the other is made by Disney animation.
In the song we don't talk about Bruno she says “I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling
I associate him with the sound of falling sand”
Not to mention that the “rats” that are worried about the magic - most certainly Bruno
In Encanto, Mirabell literally says "You never really left?" to which Bruno replied "Well the mountains surrounding Encanto are pretty tall." So this would be cool in theory, but i think this is the first ever theory that I can't really get behind. Bruno basically confirmed to Mirabell that he in fact did not leave encanto
I personally dont like this theory for the sole purpose that Bruno loves his family.
He disappeared after his vision about Mirabel because he knew Abuela Alma would be much crueler to Mirabel because she would interpret the vision as being Mirabels fault, regardless of the shifting between cracks and no cracks.
I just cannot see Bruno abandoning his child for any reason especially after how cruel his own mother was to him.
AGREE 100%! Alberto said that his father told him he is old enough to be on his own. Bruno would never do that to a 14 year old child. He would have at least left his son with someone that would take care of him, if some vision told him he HAS TO leave him.
I also don’t think this theory holds up because it kinda says he never left and I doubt he’d go to Italy to meet someone then return to stay in the walls if he had a new tower and a child
Definitely agree with this. I've never disagreed with a super carlin theory before, but this is a first for me. Bruno loves his family, he says in the movie that he just couldn't be around them because his gift wasn't helpful. He doesn't seem like A person who would abandon his family, have a one night stand/short relationship with a random woman, and then abandon his son. He wanted to look after his family, but just couldn't be around them. I highly disagree with this theory.
I agree 100% I don't think Bruno would even do this especially due to the reasons he disappeared after Mirabel didn't get her gift. It is completely out of character for him.
@@ZeldaWolf2000 Plus the fact that the only concrete thing tying the movies together is the name Bruno.
There's a theory that Delores isn't actually a gossip, and is in fact a great secret keeper, but because she hears everything she knew that Isabella didn't want to marry Mariano, and the reason she did what she did at the dinner was to stop the proposal from happening, not only because she was in love with Mariano herself, but to try and save her cousin from a life she didn't want.
Honestly, I didn’t think of her as gossiping in that scene
She had just learned that someone in her family might end up being a danger to the family and is in shock, it’s not that improbable that she would feel the need to tell them immediately out of that shock
Dolores did what she did because the plot needed her to. This sounds like a lot of copium
It's also possible she is good at deciding what is fun gossip or vital information that needs to get out and what should stay secret. She knew Bruno didn't want to be found so she kept his secret, she probably hears stuff all the time that doesn't help anyone to come out.
But that their magic might be doomed and the town might be in danger? Yikes.
I’m convinced Delores ✨embellished✨ when she said “he wants five babies”
The look on her face just gives it away. She either did it to stop the engagement or simply to freak her cousin out. 😅
Remember when Dolores heard Mariano wanted five babies? Even if she was lying, that implies Abuela uses her to get information. So she's known for being a gossip. Mirabel also already knew she would tell the whole family before she did
First off, I wanna say that I applaud your attention to details that most people would miss and your dedication to creating as many points as possible. Unfortunately, I am not convinced. My overall impression is that this theory is based on one single coincidence in names that has been completely overanalyzed. Plus, Bruno mentions in Encanto that he never left Columbia at all because of how tall the surrounding mountains were, so the chances of him being in Italy are zip.
yes and evem if he left colubia why italy why not a nother south american spanish speaking contury like it makes no sense
@@mihajlomujkovic6816 and you add that to the fact that the Atlantic is over 5000 miles long.
@@dahf6539 yea is a cool theory but not a good one
Dolores also says in “We don’t talk about Bruno” that she “CAN always hear him muttering and mumbling” not that she COULD or USED to. It also doesn’t look like anyone can come or go from the Encanto with those mountains. Not that it’s impossible but it looks like it wouldn’t be easy in sandals. My other question would be how long would it take him to travel that (almost 6000 miles by plane) distance, and with what money.
Also if he did leave then that takes away from Mirabel’s argument on how much he loves his family and proves the grandma correct that he did indeed leave his family (twice if this theory was true). It would also mean he reunited with one family only to leave his child abandoned on a tiny island, regardless of what would happen in the future.
I totally agree with this. I think this theory and their description of Dolores is very flat and one-sided. She can hear everything meaning she's hearing the secrets of the entire town. I don't believe she's a gossip I think she's just quiet. But the secret of Bruno's last prophecy was too great not to share with the family.
Yeah the Encanto is a hidden place in the mountains and it's a pretty isolated community because of it.
Also how is he going to get from Columbia to Italy
The present tense when she talked about Bruno was definitely intentional and Mirabel was supposed to pick up on it when Dolores said
"Do you understand?"
Agree! Also, when Mirabel asks Dolores about the Magic of the house she answers "you're the only one who worries... And the rats. And Lucia." I understood it as Bruno talking to the rats about the house loosing the magic and Dolores picking it up.
I think this theory has potencial, but it falls apart pretty easily.
Firstly the encanto is isolated, it's the point of it, an isolated place safe from the war.
Secondly, it's just not how Bruno is caracterized, he values his family's well being above all, so its unlikely he left and even if he did he would never abandon his son (or be mean to him, witch is implied in Luca).
Also the argument that Bruno is an uncomon name is just not true, it may not be in the US, but in places that speak romance languages (spanish, italian, portuguese ...) it's really comon, and a most of the team working in these movies are aware of that.
Seconded, on all of this! Its always fun to pick out coincidences in movies and try to make the pieces fit together... but this one just doesn't fit at all.
I was on board until I remembered that the Encanto is literally surrounded by mountains, and was only opened near the end of the movie. And as far as we know there’s no technology that would help Bruno climb such steep and smooth mountains. And if he did make it out, I doubt he would have come all the way back just to sneak into his old house and live in the walls listening to his family talk about how they shouldn’t mention him.
Am I the only one that's getting ticked of lf by this theory. Bruno from Encanto is such an amazing character and my favorite in the movie. Everything from the moment we meet him says he's this sweet guy that people misunderstood and blamed for bad things. This theory cheapens that and makes him into this horrible person. The entire scene where they talk in the walls is meant to show us how wrong the family was about thinking that.
I agree. Bruno loves his family and I am sure that would extend to a son of his. I mean, he 'left' because he thought it would protect his (at the time) 5 year old niece.
I was also annoyed with it, so you are not alone. He’s so sweet and shy and caring that there is no WAY he would abandon his own child. He would take that child with him because family is everything to a Madrigal.
Also, Enchanto is NOT a Pixar film, so linking the two actually destroys or invalidates the Pixar Theory.
@@kleioslibrary5451 Yea. It's like Dom in Fast n Furious franchise abandoning his baby for his familia. Like, what? How is that the same character?
I was thinking exactly this. This theory destroys the emotional beats of Bruno in Encanto. He just wouldn't leave his family because even when they shunned him, he still cared about them. That was the whole point of the ending.
I'm also the same. This theory is so far fetched and doesn't make sense. Bruno left to protect his family. But he never left officially. He was hiding in the walls that entire time. Even at the end Dolores said she knew he never left. So for him to have a child in Italy doesn't make sense. He never left Colombia.
“Silencio Bruno no no no.”
I loved the intro.
Everyone expected this, although it is still loved.
Also, “Prophecies make people do some weird things,” is the most true statement in fiction.
Unfortunately, I don’t believe the theory, but it was good. Kudos!
Edit: Sorry to people who get annoyed by these, but OH GOODNESS THAT’S A LOT OF LIKES!
It's funny seeing all the comments arguing over the validity of this theory when there's one simple fact that can disprove it. Encanto is not a Pixar film, it's a Disney film. I know Disney owns Pixar and could retcon it in if they wanted, but no crossover between the Pixar universe and the Disney universe has been made yet (except Wreck it Ralph: Ralph Breaks the Internet, but that was a meta thing and it was Disney using Pixar stuff) so I don't think it's likely that the first crossover into the Pixar universe would be on some random line and a name sharing.
Merida makes an appearance in Sofia the First
This theory is debunked by ONE thing Bruno says. He NEVER leaves the Encanto, let alone the house. I thought y’all out of everyone would’ve caught that.
Seriously, like he has no reason to lie about that
@@dakotaouzts6587 yes and on top of that how he never explaned in the video how bruno went from colombia to italy
@@mihajlomujkovic6816 and did a fish
Who said he was ALWAYS in the house, there he would be dead by now
@@hauntr416 yeah, I think I know that
There are many ways to debunk this theory:
- Bruno states himself that the "mountains around the Encanto are pretty tall", blocking the small town from the outside world
- Bruno and the other Madrigals have never left the Encanto AT ALL since Pedro
- Bruno has a soft spot for his nieces and nephews, hence, why he would never abandon them
- He "left" his family to protect them from him
- Alberto's parents are both sea monsters
- If Alberto was Bruno's son, how would he get his powers from the Casita?
- ALBERTO'S SURNAME IS SCORFANO, NOT MADRIGAL (SCORFANO IS ITALIAN, MADRIGAL IS SPANISH)
Also *One is Pixar and *One is Disney. They don't mix.
I was thinking they were gonna say that Bruno’s door goes to Alberto’s world and all of it exists in his door. Would make sense too since a lot of Pixar theory has to do with doors. But then again this is Disney not Pixar and I don’t understand how that would work
@@ThePlotaGuy7 Bruno scorfano.
💀
They bring up the surname thing IN THIS VIDEO, and also we don't know for certain that Alberto's parents are both sea monsters
Bruno left after the mountains opened, they opened in 1950 and Luca takes place in 1960. He must have left to protect Alberto or save his mother. His power is that he can be full sea monster without 2 sea monster parents.
Theory's DEFINITELY a stretch
Bruno literally made the excuse he couldn't leave the Encanto due to the mountains, and he loved his family, that's why he resorted to living in the walls rather than just another place in the village, he went into hiding to protect Mirabel
As for the boot, and all that, Disney is NOTORIOUS for placing little easter eggs of past or upcoming movies into their current ones
Agreed. This is very far fetched and super out of character for Bruno.
I wonder if the candle's magic in Encanto is related to the magic in Tangled. The candlelight in Encanto looks just like the candles used in "I See the Light" in Tangled.
I agree
OOOO!!! NOW THATS A THEORY!
Also Alberto tower is like a tumbled down version of rapunzel's
@@end7719 hear me out, what if a second sundrop appeared in Colombia and instead of as a flower it assimilated into a person's essence directly instead of through consumption like Rapunzel's case? That person could be Pedro, or his dad or something, the "gift" of the sundrop was then passed to Pedro himself and when he died it was his memory, combined with the power of the sundrop, what imbued the candle with the Encanto's magic.
@@end7719 I mean, in tangled the series we saw the moonstone, a parallel inverse to the sundrop falling to earth and become a stone instead of a flower so getting a sundrop that becomes part of a person is not that out of the realm of possibility, I think.
Bruno wasnt originally going to be the name chosen for the character. Lin-Manuel Miranda asked to change it to Bruno, just so the lyrics 'Bruno no no no' could be possible.
imagine singing "we dont talk about oscar no no no" if they had kept the original name 💀
I always thought the phrase “silencio Bruno” in the context of encanto is a reference to Bruno’s power of seeing into the future. So whenever Alberto says silencio Bruno he’s pretty much just saying live in the moment
@Toxenhern boom the pixar theory!
Alternative interpretation of Delores:
She hears everything, every secret, and every lie. She can keep secrets, and most of the time she does, but important secrets (say she heard some rather horrible things that I won't mention in case it triggers someone) she would tell someone about immediately. Mirabel being part of Bruno's vision of the magic dying is something too important to keep hidden, but she also doesn't want to interrupt Isabella's night so she passes it on to Camilo expecting it to reach Abuela, but not the Guzman's. Only for there to be no way to save Isabella's night so she has to just let it all out.
The reason she doesn't say anything about Bruno is because he doesn't want Abuela to find him, and that's all she knows. She doesn't know he's hiding to protect Mirabel. (also, bringing up Bruno was probably ill-advised considering the whole "We Don't Talk About Bruno" thing)
I also think she really wanted to respect his privacy but still wanted to help lead Mirabel along the journey as best she could. Dolores is the best, an unsung hero
Normally you guys can convince me when I'm skeptical, but this time, nope. Bruno flat out says he never left, and even if he wanted to, the mountains surrounding the village are too high and difficult to pass through. Family is also very very important to him and he couldn't bring himself to actually abandon his family, even to protect Mirabel and after feeling like he was just a disappointment to his family. He'd never abandon a son if he had one.
bruno is just lying bc why would he tell mirabel that he was in Italy on the other side of the world for ten years? JUST LIE
@@FiggyG11 how would he get to Italy,it was the 70s I'm pretty sure border guards exist
The Atlantic is super hard to cross
Bruno would be 80 years old in that scenario,in the movie he is 50
@@FiggyG11 he would not lie about that
Remember the line that Bruno said when mirabelle asked " so you've been living in the walls" , then Bruno said, " you expect me to climb over those mountains", or something like that?
I dunno, Bruno literally says that he never tried leaving. He even briefly mentions it when he talks about how the mountains around the Encanto are too high.
I genuinely feel like this whole theory is a huge stretch + people being used to trying to tie everything together. But Encanto wouldn’t even fall under the whole Pixar Timeline thing anyways, because it’s not even a Pixar film.
I think maybe this time y’all are trying a little too hard to tie knots that don’t even exist.
Thank you, finally someone pointed out that Encanto is NOT a Pixar film, which already makes this theory not possible, I figured Ben or J would’ve caught onto that since they’re sticklers for details and even talk about the differences between Disney and Pixar films
Thanks, I was genuinely disappointed with this video. Not up to my high standards for them.
THIS! I was scrolling through for THIS on every point! Wish i could bump this as a top remark! Pixar and Disney Animation Studios are different universes even though they are under the same "Umbrella" of Disney. But Like D.A.S. they did nod to Frozen and Wreck It Ralph.
Exactly. Bruno said in his first scene meeting Mirabel how he never left and the mountains are too high and it kinda dissapointed me that wasn't even mentioned in the video thoigj it wasn't even a hint but straight up essential plot dialouge.
I feel like the reason Dolores didn’t tell anyone about Bruno is because she heard him talking to himself (or the rats) about how much he genuinely cared about his family, so she kept his secret because she knew if anyone else knew that he hadn’t left he would be forced to leave by the rest of the family
or she did tell them but no one believed her and continuously cut her off the same way they did to Maribel causing her to stop mentioning it.
It was cruel of the family to disown him
Yeah I'd chalk it up more to the taboo against talking about Bruno than Dolores not knowing it was him in the walls. What good would have come from telling? Would the family have driven him even further away?
The two Brunos are just a coincidence. A striking one, but ultimately I don't think it would fit Bruno Madrigal's character to run away to Italy, have a son with an Italian sea monster, then abandon that son to go live in the walls of the Casita.
To anyone who disagrees with the theory, I’ve always thought that instead of Enchanto and Luca existing in the same universe, that they’re actually 2 separate universes and there is a variant of this Bruno in Luca who is Alberto’s father! There is a multiverse, and it’s beginning to break.
Honestly I really don't see Bruno leaving his home for far away Europe. He's too domestic and loyal to his roots to do this. The arguments are dismissible as coincidences.
... but of course that's just my opinion.
And literally couldn't even if he wanted to
@@Mr1991bbk True! The mountains surrounding the Encanto were already too much for him to leave it, how would he board a ship or a plane?
I think most of us share this opinion based on the comments. This theory just doesn't add up for several reasons.
There are a few problems with this theory though. First off is the spoken ones, Bruno states that he's been in the walls for the entire time as well. Also, the valley in Encanto is completely shut off from the rest of the world. The miracle closed off the valley from the rest of the world and it wasn't opened until near the end of the movie when then one of the mountains split open.
Good video, however there's one crucial detail you overlooked that makes this completely impossible. When Pedro sacrifices himself not only does this create the Casita and the gifts bestowed to each children, but it also creates a wall of mountains that completely surround the village and the nearby area to prevent everyone on the outside from being able to enter and vice-versa, and it isn't until the candle goes out and the miracle is undone that the mountainous border is broken, allowing for passage in and out of the village.
Anybody else remember that “Bruno” was also the name of Cinderella’s dog?
Yep
@@CreativaArtly connection confirmed
Maybe that’s Alberto’s father… he turns human when Cinderella gets her wish 😬
Don't say that, they'll make a video about how he is Alberto's dog.
Omg at the end of Encanto, Bruno turns into a dog and raises Alberto still as a dog??? 😰
I think the biggest obstacle to this theory is that the town in Encanto was both inescapable and unreachable between c. 1900 and c. 1950, due the unclimbable mountains that surrounds it. Not to mention, Bruno was aware of the danger to Mirabel since 1940. The whole point of the movie was that Bruno **wouldn't** abandon his family. He hid in the walls for 10 years because he **refused** to abandon his family. While I don't subscribe to it, there's an ongoing fan theory that Bruno is Mirabel's biological father simply because we see he cares so deeply for her.
Let's put that all aside. Let's say Bruno did abandon his family and managed to scale the mountain. He makes his way to the Colombian coast. How does he charter a ship? He's been in a small village that hasn't maybe used money in 40 years. Even if he's collected enough old money from a village founded by refugees, the currency of Colombia has changed *five* times since he was a baby. And he decides to go to fascist Italy during WWII? The man who was not married in Catholic village at the age of 40 falls in love with a sea monster lady, has a child, gets widowed, and decides to abandon his preteen son to return to his village, which is, by the way, not on any map, long enough for one of his nieces to assume he's been there the entire time?
What is that theory, dont those pople know that bruno is her mother's BROTHER
@@SleettheIcewing Right?! So would the theory be that Bruno had Mirabel with someone in town but then the family decided to pass her off as one of Julieta's kids?
I meeeeaaaan, if we go by the 1950s setting, it could work. Families in the 50s dealt with teen pregnancy by lying to the community and the kid by saying that their mother was their sister, so 🤷🏾♀️
No, the mountains open in 1950, that's when he left. He didn't abandon anyone, something happened. Maybe he saw a vision of Alberto's mom and thought he was going to be back sooner.
Christopher Verdey I thought the same thing
I agree. In Luca, they say "Silent, Bruno!" and how Bruno in Encanto tells everyone stuff like "Your fish will die" or something, in Luca, they are telling Bruno to stay silent. And also, in Luca, Alberto said "Bruno always says 'Your gonna hurt yourself!'" This is crazily related and an awesome theory!
What if "Encanto" was getting IDEAS from Luca because they didnt know what to do?
A) Encanto is Disney not Pixar since this is in the Pixar theory
@@uhmkaii7503 And If this theory is true then this quote implies that something might have happened to The Madrigals’s or Bruno’s Wife for Bruno to be constantly repeating this quote. Only problem is that….apparently if you go out of the island…..trying to find it will be no use, you are lost from the Encanto.
When Bruno and Mirabel are talking she says something about him never leaving the house and he said "No." because the mountains were too high. Kinda hard to get to Italy from Columbia if you can't even get out of the valley.
To be fair that sounded made up because he didn't want to admit the real reason. I still don't think this works unless Bruno's memory was magically altered, because he wouldn't abandon a child for four years.
@@hunterlawrence3573 the only reason Maribel and her grandma were able to get to the river at the end is because the mountain cracked creating a gap. There were no means of exiting the valley prior to this
@@laurenprescott2352 Except climbing a tall mountain. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it can't be done.
@@hunterlawrence3573 Except the fact Bruno already said in the film that the mountains were too high, This theory has nothing to back it besides coincidence, there is a multitude of reasons for this theory to fall apart
@@laurenprescott2352 In the film, he claimed the mountains were really tall, but Maribel realized the real reason was because he didn’t want to be away from his family. Again, I don’t think this theory is true, but I don’t think the mountains are the reason it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work because leaving Alberto is out of character for Bruno.
While all of your points make total sense, there's one issue. Bruno wouldn't abandon a child. He'd only abandon them if he didn't know about them, and then everything you said would fall apart.
Also, part of the miracle is the big moutains surrouding the village wich means no one can leave the village in the first place.
There's a second main issue and it shuts down everything about this theory:
It's not a Pixar movie, therefore, it would just ruin the Pixar theory.
@@Gloomyraindrop yes and no. There are Non Pixar movies that are cannon to Pixar. For instance Planes 2.
@@wylanvallotton4462 planes 2 was made by disney and pixar, which is why planes 2 is canon to pixar universe, and maybe as well in disney . Same case with Luca. But Encanto is pure disney film, which means it is canon only to disney universe
@@crazymartin526Planes 2 was Disney with permission from Pixar because they didn't want to persue it further. However, the point is that Disney and Pixar things aren't always exclusive of each other. Another example: Doc McStuffins. It's not officially said to be in the toy story world, but it is very clearly in it. It even has pizza planet in an episode.
I think Luca happens after Encanto, since one of the mountains stays split, Bruno might've left to see the World. Alberto's gift would be Hydrokinesis.
It's actually disappointing how you interpreted Bruno and sorta villainize him, doing exactly what his family did to him.. further dehumanized a character who has already been diminished because of his absence.
"As Bruno had been fighting to maintain the smallest connection to his family, they had been banned from even saying his name, slowly twisting the truth about him over time. Perhaps the greatest miracle of Disney's Encanto movie is that Bruno never grew bitter during his long years spent alone."
Aside from that, I suppose this was a fun video but a far stretch from making a connection between the two. It would have been nice to see a more in depth analysis of this character instead.
ok
lol
I'm sure it was never their intention to dehumanize Bruno, if anything they maybe just wanted to find answers and pointed at the easiest person to "blame"
Shut up
Or you know, we just accept that more than one character can be named Bruno in movies.
I feel like he’s not bringing up the fact that when Mirabel interrogates Bruno, he says that one of the reasons why he didn’t leave was because the mountains around the encanto are pretty tall, meaning that he wouldn’t have the motivation to leave Columbia to begin with. If anything, it makes more sense to say that after the mountain was split in half at the end of Encanto, then and only then did he go to Italy, meet Alberto’s mom, and then after some time, abandoned him.
Considering dolores hears everything, she really is great at keeping secrets. I think she immediately told camilo because she's directly involved.
While there is plenty of evidence to support Bruno(from Luca) being Alberto’s missing father, I believe the director or one of the writers or something already confirmed that that isn’t the case. That it was just some name that they chose. I also spoke to an Italian person who suggested he could’ve misheard the word “bruco” which is “caterpillar” and in Italy they have a saying about a caterpillar in your head being annoying or something(it’s been a while since that conversation so I may be remembering things wrong.) I personally like the idea of him just having heard a couple of fishermen arguing and taking that phrase and making a whole thing out of it.
Besides, Bruno leaving his tower was not him abandoning his family, he left because he was tired of being blamed for bad things happening that were out of his control. I find it very difficult to believe he would leave his own child especially in another country across the ocean. I’d be more inclined to believe he met a sea monster in the river near the Encanto and she left before he could ever find out she was pregnant and SHE left him alone in Italy… but that’s not Alberto’s story of course, he never mentions his mother.
Also… Bruno isn’t an uncommon name. Maybe for English countries, sure, but Italy and Colombia??? It’s fairly common. Pretty sure everyone living in either country knows at least ONE person named Bruno or knows someone who knows someone named Bruno.
It's a fun idea, but I have actually seen Encanto, so the theory falls flat on its face. Why? In Encanto we are given several reasons why Bruno did not leave the family. My personal favourite: The mountains around the village is quite tall.
Oof, glad to see I wasn't the only one that wasn't happy with the suggestion that Bruno Madrigal would abandon a child. When Ben said it was in character for him to abandon family I literally went "WHUT?!" out loud. Nope, Bruno never left, simple as.
I came down here to the comments to say that and found out like everyone and their dog had already said it and I was like "okay good."
He LITERALLY said the reason he left Alberto was cause of the vision of Mirabel
@@UnicornBlueLifeUltraSienna but it would still have been grossly out of character for him to abandon a child completely alone. Even if Bruno had been able to get out and then back through the mountains and all the way to Italy, he *never* would have left Alberto alone. In the vid he said that it's in character for Bruno to abandon his family, but that completely misses the point of why he left.
Also, at that point, Alberto would have been his family as well. When he "abandoned" his family, he felt it was for the greater good, to protect Mirabel from being ostracized like he was, but Alberto is literally a kid who didn't have any support or people in his life
Ok but I thought no one could come in or out of the village up until Casita “dies” and breaks the mountain range surrounding them. It was my understanding that Maribel was the first person to leave the village in 50 years. Which would explain why Bruno never left. After Maribel’s ceremony he would have tried to get as far away as possible but once he realized he CANT leave the village he would have come back to the one place he knew he could stay hidden; Casita. Plus, family is the most important thing to Bruno. It’s the reason he goes into hiding; to “protect” them. He would have never ABANDONED a family member on an island all alone. ESPECIALLY when he knows first hand what it’s like. First time I completely disagree with you guys. Trash theory.
Same here. Even regardless of if Bruno could see that Alberto would be okay, Bruno loves his family too much to CONSIDER leaving a CHILD alone on an island. If he’d had a kid and was able to, I believe he would have brought him home to be with the rest of his family.
Mirabel*
The miracle put up the ring of mountains, creating an entire valley. People could likely go anywhere in said valley, they just had one village though. Also, I don't think Mirabel left the miracles boundaries either. She went to where the miracle was born, which was inside the valley.
@@diegom2p884 oops. I got a cousin named Maribel so confusion 😅
You have some great points but you didn't have to call the theory trash
I'm sorry, but it's too far fetched for me. It sort of sounds plausible when you ignore a whole lot of facts and circumstances in-universe and real-universe, but I think the writers were just having a little bit of fun and throwing easter eggs around. Bruno also sings about "Let it go" - does that mean he has a connection to Elsa? Probably not. Also in the TinkerBell series "The secret of the wings", which came out in 2012, Fairy Mary also says "Let it go" in connection to baskets made for carrying snowflakes. I always interpreted it as said above, since Frozen came out in 2013, so back then it seems sort of like an inside joke between the writers. So after Frozen came out and people (re-)watched TinkerBell, people would immediately think about Elsa, without necessarily realising that this movie came out before Frozen.
Nah. Bruno left to protect his family, and even then he couldn't bring himself to go far. Plus *he* says he didn't leave because "the mountains around the Encanto are pretty high". I think Dolores just respected that he had a reason for hiding out in the walls. Either that or she is more afraid of either Bruno or her abuela than she is of Mirabel (Bruno because of what people, read her brother Camilo, have to say about him. Her abuela because she was angry about him leaving.). Real talk... Bruno wouldn't leave his kid.
I have a better, more wholesome theory for you. Julieta also knew that Bruno was hiding in the walls. Allow me to explain.
Julieta, understandably, seems to be in charge of food preparation. This is important, because she knows the kitchen, and she would be on top of grocery shopping, etc. If Bruno was there, acquiring "free food" as we know he is, for *10 years*, there is no way she wouldn't notice the food going missing. Combine that with the fact that it starts right after he disappeared... it's not hard to put the pieces together.
But wait! There's more! I don't think she just knows he's there. She is also intentionally making extra food so that there is always enough for him to eat. Firstly, Julieta doesn't have the same animosity that the town and even the rest of the family seem to have for him. She never refuses to talk about him like the others, and when she does talk about him she is sad. It's clear that she misses him. But that alone doesn't prove anything, so... we actually see her make more food than necessary in the movie! The apres de quesos that she makes when Mirabel hurts her hand? She makes three. The only one we see being eaten is Mirabel's, but Julieta may have had one too. Either way, she made more then what was needed. The icing on the theory cake? Guess what Bruno is eating when we see him later in the film. That's right. Apres de queso.
Julieta is secretly taking care of her brother.
That's a good one. :)
I love this! Heartwarming theory, and absolutely fits what we saw in the film. Great stuff!
As much as I wanted to agree with this theory, doing so would leave this question open: why didn't she look for him much sooner? I don't understand why she would leave him in that place to his own fate. Make more sense to me that Julieta is making so much food simply because you never know who's going to show up so hungry. Also her face is one of real surprise when she sees it in the ending song, like, omg where have you been all this time.
I totally agree with you in the first part anyway
@@_Egon I think she might just not have known where exactly he was hiding and/or couldn't find him. I mean, him being in the walls is kinda crazy and not a logical place to look at all. Also, she didn't know why exactly he left, so she may have been trying to respect whatever his reason was for leaving.
As far as her surprise... I have a couple of thoughts. 1) If you didn't see someone for 10 years, even if you knew they were close, wouldn't you be surprised? I see people at the grocery store after seeing them a half hour before and get surprised by it. 😆 2) He has been living in the walls for 10 years, so he hasn't exactly been keeping up with himself, plus aging. She could have been surprised by his appearance. 3) My personal favorite: I don't believe she's shocked to see Bruno. I think she's shocked to see their mother bringing Bruno back into the family.
@@_Egon she probably did,it may just not appear in the movie
My thoughts about Dolores knowing Bruno was there the entire time is that she is such a gossip about 'other' things so that she can keep quite about the really important stuff, like Bruno. With all that she hears, there are probably lots of things that happen that really shouldn't be revealed to the entire town, so to help cope with knowing all these secrets, she talks about anything else. Knowing the fact that they were going to discuss it later and just not at the dinner, as well as the fact that she probably didn't want the proposal to go super well because of her own feelings, I believe she felt safe blurting that out for the family to hear right away rather than keeping it in.
Just my thoughts though ^-^
God can you imagine hearing EVERYTHING and EVERYONE since 5 years old? I know silence is defeaning and makes you go insane but hearing even the mice in the walls already sounds horrible to me, but imagine hearing all the bugs too???? And she lives in a TROPICAL FOREST
I don't think Dolores is really a gossip at all. We never explicitly see her 'gossiping' in the movie. In we don't talk about Bruno she is warning Mirabel and later on in the dinner scene I'm not surprised she tells her family about what she saw, her baby cousin is getting herself into something that might cause her harm, I'd be concerned too.
I really like this theory, I really do. But there's a detail that doesn't line up, that being Bruno's character: everything about him screams about dedication to his family so why leave Alberto on his own while he could simply bring him back to Encanto? As you pointed out: a sea monster would actually considered pretty normal among the other Madrigals and their gifted members. Another point to be made, is the fact that there's no door for Alberto, not even a blank one for him to reclame in case he comes back. Of course, we don't know how the doors work in casita, but i think that somehow Alberto should've been able to manifest some powers, if he was really related to Bruno
Just knowing Bruno, I don’t think he is the father. He loves family. He left because he didn’t want his niece to be an outcast of the family. But he stayed close because he loves them and didn’t want to be away he got to see them have dinner and he eat with them. I think if he did have a family of his own he wouldn’t leave and not come back.
I already knew this theory was coming but it simply cannot be true. 1.) You're actually incorrect about Dolores. It is stated, in the wiki, that she knows everyone's dirt but does NOT appear to be much of a gossip. I think the house loosing its magic just freaked her out which is why she spilled. I think even she knows that she can't understand rats, she just said "rats" as a cover for Bruno because she kept him there as a secret. And why would she tell everyone else? Its obvious he left for a reason and literally everyone was saying he's a bad person. She was quite literally the only person defending him in the song. 2.) Bruno himself stated that he knew his gift wasn't helping his family but he could never leave them which leads to #3. Bruno would never leave his child like that. He cares about family to much and to leave his own son is not something he'd do.
That…has to be the most red string theory I’ve ever heard on this channel. In “we don’t talk about Bruno” she literally says “it’s like I can hear him now, I can hear him now, I can hear him now!” She is literally telling everyone that he’s still there.
I think it is personally just a coincidence! First, they are 2 different studios! Also, there is a very simple reason why Dolores didn’t tell anyone that Bruno was still living in the house! It’s because “we don’t talk about Bruno!” 🎶🎶
ENCANTO wasn't set in the 50s, the original concept art did base it in the 50s and artists gave the characters more 50s styled clothing but it was changed. It is loosely set at the turn of the 20th century
So, the 40s?
@@sarahvenable4710 like start of the 1900's
Source?
@@randomnerdery6511 there's plenty of videos about it on UA-cam where they've referenced original concept art and interviews etc- 😂😂😂 I'm not going to just make stuff up it's all a Google/UA-cam/ENCANTO Instagram feed search away
@@randomnerdery6511 ua-cam.com/video/KUd7nJJtM6M/v-deo.html but here's a video about concept art (with the original 50s clothing) and deleted characters
There is one thing that is stopping this theory from being true… when Mariel finds bruno he says he could never leave because the mountains around the town were to big so Bruno never left… alright great theory
I have to point out that Bruno it's a pretty common name in Italy, and a common Latinamerian name (and it's a lastname too!). Plus, Bruno never left the house, even when he was rejected and you bealive that same person can even think of abandon his own child!!
Yep
It's common in the Latin-based languages and in the countries where they are spoken... Like in France and French territories... So common that xennials would often have several pupils named Bruno in their class back in the 80s and 90s... and with the comeback of short first names that occurred in France around 2010, it's still a fairly common name in younger generations...
I really dont think that the man who chose to live in the F****NG walls because he couldn't bear to leave his family would be capable of abandoning his OWN SON to his luck. Besides, it's heavily implied that he never left at all, so there's no way that he would have ended up in Italy. Now, maybe Alberto and/or his dad met Bruno at some point and had a tendency to tell him to shut up when he gave them advice/prophecies, or something like that; that would still give us a connection/explain the whole "silencio Bruno" thing without being HORRIBLY out of character for him.
All the comments saying he didn't leave the Encanto are right BUT Bruno left AFTER Mirabel saves the miracle, after he made amends, after the mountains opened in 1950. Luca takes place after Encanto, in 1960. The timing is perfect.
This means something might have happened to the Madrigals for Bruno to leave.
I actually don't see Dolores as that much of a gossip. I think that's a very surface-level view of her character.
I think the gossiping at the almost-proposal dinner was to prevent the proposal, as she was in love with Mariano, and she had something big that could stop it. I think Dolores knows SO MUCH stuff, and actually keeps a lot of stuff a secret-including Bruno being in the walls. If she can hear poetry across town, especially just that he's writing it, not performing, she must know everything that's happening around town. I also think it comes down to wanting to protect the family. She wants to protect Bruno, and telling her family, especially Abuela, that he's still there, might cause him to be thrown out. She might even be helping feed him.
You have to remember that Dolores was like 14 when Bruno left and there was already so much negative with him. Ubuela was so strict with everyone and probably so upset when Bruno left, thinking he abandoned the family that she probably just forbid his name, I don't think she went looking for him like when Mirabel ran. So I imagine that if this 14 year old girl came and said "he's in the walls", she was probably shut down like everyone else was.
0:06 the way I BUSTED out laughing at this line 😭😭
No. Doloris specifically says that Bruno NEVER LEFT THE HOUSE. And the fact about the "rats in the walls" remember the rule. "DO NOT TALK ABOUT BRUNO"
My theory is that Delores intentionally wrecked that dinner. I mean the man of her dreams was literally about to propose to her cousin who was only going to accept out of obligation.
That actually makes a lot of sense. I don't get why she couldn't hold onto that secret for more than five seconds, but then had managed to keep Bruno's presence secret for 10 years
It would be interesting if a Russian Revolution style attack happened on the Madrigals and the only survivor would be Alberto, and he would see in the news, recognize Bruno, and realize he was the last Madrigal, being forced to pick up the torch and carry on the legacy!
I'm sorry, but this is a bad theory. This only works if you ignore a KEY character trait-Bruno's love for his family, as well as his innocence and purity. "My gift wasn’t helping the family, but I love my family, ya know?" he stayed. He stayed even it it caused him immense grief and pain. This theory implies that Bruno is a bad person overall, and all evidence in Encanto point to the opposite. NOT TO MENTION "I CAN always hear HIM sort of muttering and mumbling, I ASSOCIATE him with the sound of falling sand ch ch ch." I mean come on. Now that's just lazy video writing. Rather disappointed with this one fellas.
i feel like a cooler theory would be that in the Pixar universe the story of Encanto is just a fairy tale people tell their children and that the idea of “silencio bruno” is something alberto’s dad could have taught him- almost as a way of saying “you can change what the prophecy says if you believe it’s not true” or “don’t listen to what people tell you is going to happen”
someone might have come up with this before me but i just thought that since they are technically in different universes it makes more sense
I was about to mention this. Bruno can be interpreted as "the anxious voice in your mind that tells you the things that may go wrong in the future".
And it's kind of what happened to Bruno and his family, he would see the future, tell them and because they listened and though that was the only truth, it happened.
So by saying "Silencio Bruno" they are saying, I have control of my destiny, I can change the future and I'll be brave to do so"
Interesting. And it makes sense. I like that theory
Also, when Abuela received the miracle, mountains were raised to protect the villagers from dangers outside, meaning that there was hardly any way to go outside. And Bruno doesnt have the ability to fly, so... yeah?
It's interesting, but ultimately goes against Bruno's character. The reason he is living in the walls is because he couldn't bear to leave his family, and the reason he left in the first place is to protect his family! So the idea of him abandoning his son doesn't feel right AT ALL.
Can't all be winners. Bruno never left his family, blocked off by the moutains even if he wanted to and even then this takes place in the Colombian mountains. Not Italy.
Plot twist: No Pixar theory is true and Pixar is just putting these little “clues” in moves to mess with everyone
You question why Alberto uses the name Scorfano instead of Madrigal, but there is some evidence to suggest that in sea monster cultures, it's the husband who takes the wife's name. Luca's grandmother is listed in the credits as "grandma Paguro" but Daniela calls her "mom."
i think Dolores was literal because she also says it in “we don’t talk about bruno” how she hears him in the walls i think that its not that she didnt gossip about it but that no one believes her when she says hes in the walls; its a cool theory but definitely just coincidence
I interpreted that as before he “left”
@@montebeverly237 i could see that but she said “i can always hear him” if she meant it as past tense it would have made more sense to say i could (full line im quoting for reference is “I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling
I associate him with the sound of falling sand, ch ch ch”
Actually at the end of the song (when Isabella says "Hey sis', I want not a sound out of you"), Dolores even says "it's like I hear him now, I can hear him now".
And she sounds a little bit terrified that she is, in fact, hearing him NOW.
@@MPiiste because of the placement I’m pretty sure that was about the “man of her dream” who she was just singing about before hand instead of Bruno
@@alexismarie3075 I can see that also but because I personally don’t puke feel like if this theory is true I sticking with the past tense route. Also with the falling sand part from what I understand from the movie Bruno did not use his gift since he had the vision of Mirabel so if she was still hearing him for 10 years everyday after he “left” wouldn’t you stop associating him with falling sand which is connected to his gift which he has not used in 10 years?
Tbh I think this all is just coincidence, bruno's name was different for a while untill lin-manuel and the team started the music process as far as I know
As soon as I saw this character was named Bruno, I used my gift of seeing the future to know that you guys would put out this theory haha. That being said, I gotta agree with the rest of the commenters, it's way too out of character for Bruno to abandon a family member, or even leave the house (it's important to the story's message that Bruno loves the family so much that he wants to stay with them, he just feels his gift wasn't good enough and he was hurting the family instead "My gift wasn't helping the family but I love my family you know?", and to protect Mirabel), and the majority of this evidence feels like a stretch or something that was misunderstood. Also, I have no doubt Dolores could actually hear him, even in the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" number, she says "I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling", which I take to be literal and in the present, and then right after shows that she understands the pain he went through having his visions misunderstood and bad things always being blamed on him (since you guys like Pokemon too, think Absol, the Pokemon that can predict disasters and then ends up getting blamed for them). Through that small set of lines she has in that song, it's clear to me that she knows the family would be unfairly cruel to him if he were to be revealed, so why would she out him?
This is my exact thought process for this
In the movie during mealtimes, we see Dolores knock on the wall Bruno was hiding behind to get his intention and communicate to him since she must know he tries to attend family meals. I think that proves she knew he was there the entire time without confirmation bias
When does she do that in the movie?
@@simplybrave9255 You notice it the best during the dinner scene in We Don't Talk About Bruno.
@@cameron20_ I just double checked and she just seems to be dancing close to the wall instead of actually touching it
@@lilmisschrystyle3140 I saw the clip too and she very clearly moves her right hand in a knocking motion against the wall while dancing lol likely sneakily knocking on the wall-
@@lilmisschrystyle3140 It’s true she does knock on the wall, if you listen in the audio closely enough you can even hear the knock as well.
I’m not sure the name has anything to do with lore because Bruno from encanto was originally going to be called Oscar but Bruno sounded better for his song.
I don’t like this theory at all. Bruno is shown throughout the movie to deeply care about his family. From the fact he made himself a place/plate at the dinner table behind the wall, to the fact that he straight up hid himself away rather than tell Abeula his vision of Mirabel to protect her, it shows he loves his family to his core. I could never picture him leaving his family home and country only to leave his second family as well. That just seems totally unlike Bruno to me.
(Also the whole company thing of Encanto being Disney and Luca being Pixar. As well as Lin Manuel Maranda changing his name because of a song.)
i love all y’all’s theories , but i gotta strongly disagree on this one , bruno only left because he loves his family and wanted to protect them . his life was so negatively affected by his family not treating him well , i can in no world image him abandoning his own child
I’ve been saying this forever and thought I was the only one who thought this! I’ve been trying to persuade my grandmother for weeks now.
More factual evidence- Columbia broke away from Spain in 1810. After that a TON of Italians moved to Columbia.
So my theory is that Abeula’s parents or grandparents left Italy and moved to Columbia. And Bruno knew this so when he “left” he wanted to see if he could find any of his family over there. And he got some chick pregnant.
My theory on Alberto though is a bit different. I think Alberto’s gift was to turn into a sea monster. When his mom found out about this, she left because it scared her and that’s why the entire town know about the sea monsters and want to hunt them. Because she told them sea monsters exist.
I get the points about Bruno being a great character and all...but have we considered the fact that Luca takes place in *italy* and Encanto in *Columbia*
Could you please do a theory about what all of the Madrigal's rooms look like??
Interesting thought - What if Bruno brought some of his talking rat friends along with him to Italy and that eventually lead to Ratatouille?
I feel bad for anybody actually named Bruno who is a big fan of Disney, it’s like they’re attacking them!!!
Bruno is Disney’s “Karen”
I think Delores did actually know he was there. She outright says, "I can hear him now" during the song, "We don't talk about Bruno." No one listens to her. She hears everything and gossips so much, but no one actually listens to her or takes her seriously. I'm usually on board with most of your theories, but I'm going to have to disagree with this one.
Wasn’t Bruno just living in the walls for 10 years? Like, he befriended all the rats.
honestly, as an older sister, to me, that line felt more like "I told you so". Specifically because she is such a gossip girl If she did hear him (and I mean...) she probably told someone (most likely Camilo) and got the same answer Mirabel did. I think that because of the song 'We don't talk about Bruno' the entire time she sings it feels off compared to the rest of her family like she is trying to tell Mirabel something (she literally starts by shushing Mirabel and "acting along").
Another counterpoint: Bruno himself confirms he never left the house when he tells Mirabel that the mountains are too high. It would be interesting, but there are just too many things that don't cooperate when I'm looking at the story as a whole.
I feel like Dolores definitely knew Bruno was there. In the song, she talks about Bruno in the present tense. She also identifies the sound in of an eye twitching as coming from Luisa specifically even though it’s said that that almost never happens.
I can give you 1 reason that Bruno isn't Alberto's father. He said that he never left the giant encanto.
Well like your theory but I heard from Lin Manuel Miranda on an Interview changed it to Bruno from Oscar cause it fit with We don’t Talk about Bruno.
Let's start with Luca is Pixar and Encanto is Disney. Then we can go on to how would Bruno have gotten to Italy when he couldn't leave the Encanto. And as many people have already pointed out, Bruno loves his family. He never left his family there's no way he'd leave his own son. Dolores straight up says that she always hears him muttering and stumbling. It's possible that she just knew better than to bring it up because "we don't talk about Bruno." It's be clearly indoctrinated in her that Tiò Bruno is a topic that is off limits, we see how upset Pepa gets just at the mention of her brother's name. This leads me to doubt that she'd ever bring up the possibility that Bruno is hiding within the walls of Casita. I don't agree with this theory and frankly I find it a bit disheartening not to let such a beautiful story stand on its on. There's no reason at all it needed to be connected to any other movie for any reason other than perhaps trying to see how it plays into the new Disney Renaissance.
One problem with this theory, Bruno says the mountain were too high, and that he never climb them