If there is one thing Blizzard was very good at for the longest time, and still are pretty good at: it's voice actors. They seem to be finding good ones. Even in the current stuff, with all the issues there are storywise (in my opinion) they had some very good voice actors. And if you remember Starcraft. Voice acting was very good overall. But even in the sea of pretty good ones, there are some that are just better. And yes, Sylvanas totally counts into that corner in my opinion as well.
@@patrickb1303 I think they started out okay or even good this addon overall. But they really dropped the ball on so many story arcs - and with Sylv? yeah, she is written so badly it isn't even funny. Doesn't change the fact that she does give it her all.
Anduin is my favorite character in WoW, and his story is what keeps me in the lore honestly. I really hope they do his character justice and DO NOT kill him off. I also really want to see him and some passed relatives have a moment in this expansion. I think, it wouldn’t make sense for Anduin not to see his father in this expansion before it ends.
I'm a huge fan of Anduin. I knew, the moment they forced him to be the jailer's slave, we were going to have to deal with a King with a bad case of PTSD. That was so much a dark thing done and he's not going to come out of it well and will have to deal with things, learning to find his way with the darkness.. The War Within cinematic made me cry, my brother has PTSD from the Marines and things he saw, things he did, and that statement just really hit me. I can't wait for your next update on the story and to see how that whole thing plays out in the new expansion. Thanks, Nobbel, love your channel. I play for the lore and you're the best at putting it together.
I love your thoughts about Varian and Tiffen still potentially being in the SL. I never liked how they finished Varian's story. I hope it turns out to be true somehow.
The cub has grown. Hope something comes from calia being a light infused undead or whatever. The banshee queen and the boy king. It’s interesting how if anduin is mad at wrathion for what happened to his dad but if he hadn’t convinced vereesa to not go with sylvanas’s plan to poison garrosh then legion wouldn’t have invaded and varian would in tern still be alive. Interesting how fate works out that way huh. 14:09 I like what you said here. That sword should be called shalamourne damnit! Who ever came up with “kingsmourne” needs to be smacked!
Thanks for this. Really enjoyed the series. As someone who stopped in Legion, I've still got some interest in where the story is in the retail game. Your videos helped to explain a lot.
The fact that tyrande isn't actively trying to kill Sylvanas anymore might point towards her getting a form of redemption while still being killed or something, like sacrificing herself to save anduin from the jailer
As always nice video. I think more or less its your videos who makes me continue to play the game. I like the lore and if I wasn't requmenteted to you I would have moved away from MMORPG for some time. I want to play the next part of the story and I have my own idea what will happen so im just looking upto how much my own idea of how Blizzard will go with the story is wrong in the next patch. Continue your lore videos its nice to see a person who adds more quality into the game then its own game devs.
It's too risky to redeem her or kill her, I think eternal exile in some form is the safest route since people would be upset if she's killed of or if her numerous crimes is just... forgiven for one good deed.
That's how Gallywix appeared to you..? I still find it weird Thrall went with him, even in the moment. Gazlowe, however, is like the biggest bro you can get from the goblins.
I had a thought (I know it's not Anduin related technically), Sylvanas must have had a plan when she fired that arrow, cos she can't have actually thought that'd take the Jailer down? Or maybe she did and it's just terrible writing logic
I just hope Anduin doesn't become a victim of the poor writing we've been experiencing even more these last months. I am invested in the lore and the few good parts of it but the continous stream of: "Oh we had a good story but didn't had time/ways to deliver it so that's what you got in the expansion" are tiring me as much as Sylvana's games to Anduin.
Can definitely see Vol'jin coming back as the new Loa of Kings & being apart of saving Anduin & empowering him in some way to fight the domination, later becoming apart of the bridge between the Horde & Alliance, especially if we return to a Light Invasion with an Anduin who I highly doubt will be the same light faithful user he once was. As it would again push the Horde & Alliance together against a foe needing someone as an in between as we have had the past few expansions. There has been a few Shadow Anduin moments & now that he has gone through what he has (feeling the Darkness consume him), especially with a Light invasion we could see an Anduin who is a lot more like an in game priest who can tap into Light & Void.
what if Varian and Tiffan are the ones responsible for calling Anduin back from the proverbial abyss, that his parents' love is responsible for breaking the Jailers hold on him
I know this isn't really the subject of the video, but I don't think I've ever hated a character more than I hate Sylvanas. I mean, she's well-written, interesting, and well-voiced...I just mean I want someone to take that smug bitch out. Honestly, she has done more horrible shit than what we've seen the Jailer do.
As Banshee Queen fan myself I have to say...yeah. I used to feel sorry for her, almost like she was the WoW version of Kerragin but... even I have to admit she's gone too far. Whatever fate happens will be too good for her.
If Calia redeems the Forsaken and brings them to the Alliance: Tyrande (with her usual troll accent): "Dis was our land. Elf land. De Kaldorei was here, before anyone. Da undead and their Horde came to drive us out. But we never give up. We never forget. And now dey fight alongside da Alliance? I spit on da Alliance! I hate you. I hate you all. De Kaldorei never give up. We never forget. We never die. Dis is our land. You wanna stay? You stay here forever. We gonna bury you here."
Probably. What is usually called "ley lines" seem to be their "blood vessels", and when the blood erupts from a wound it crystallizes into Azerite. In the Well of Eternity it was in liquid form, though.
I bet it's different for each titan planet. For Sargeras' old world seed planet, I'm willing to bet it was called Sargerite. Or with Golganneth it be Golgenite.
@@philippeblais8594 - Well, the implication being that it would be the same substance in all titans' "vessels"... Blood is still called blood even if it comes from different individuals or species, but Azerite is specifically named for Azeroth, by Azerothians, because of circumstance.
Anduin x wrathion actually be a really good non forced homosexual relationship...I mean if you think about it wrathion mentored anduin as a teen but he was technically still a baby himself
My wishlist: - Arthas makes an appearance, ultimately sacrificing/redeeming himself by saving Anduin at the cost of his own soul, just after helping dispose of Zoval, ending his story for good - Sylvannas becomes whole again and returns as her former, mortal self, resulting in being forgiven for past transgressions - Sylvannas admits the love she never got to choose was for Varian, and she sees much of him in Anduin, and she, as Ranger-General of the High Elves, becomes the queen of Stormwind
Weird but the lore is a mess now so don't mind if they do this Also lol imagine marrying a human while you are an 2000 or 3000 year old elf dude she is as ancient as the whole human history lol
I dont care about the aliance, never have and never will. But im curies to what path they will put Anduin on. And the shadowlands will make him or break him. And Anduin's story intrests me. But i belive in the horde and hate the aliance. My fav race is forsaken but my main sins legion is a blood elf demon hunter.
i’m sorry but who suggested anduin hook up with wrathion 😐 i truly don’t care if they made anduin gay. but him dating wrathion just sounds super cringey
Also, that wouldn’t solve the lineage continuation issue, unless there’s some dragon shape shifting involved and right about there I cannot stomach it any longer…
@Episode Update - Not from the start though, right? Blizzard let Activision buy the company at some point. That gave them more money and resources to make games, but also lets Activision decide a lot of things.
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An update will come, for now, here's a short rundown to what happened to Anduin going into War Within: ua-cam.com/video/YwpKxepBK7M/v-deo.html
Sylvanas voice actress deserves whatever Emmy equivalent for voice acting exists
"That momentary flickaah" 👌
Okay but so true. Patty kills it in the studio every time. Can’t believe she’ll be narrating the whole Sylvanas novel (audio book)
If there is one thing Blizzard was very good at for the longest time, and still are pretty good at: it's voice actors. They seem to be finding good ones.
Even in the current stuff, with all the issues there are storywise (in my opinion) they had some very good voice actors.
And if you remember Starcraft. Voice acting was very good overall.
But even in the sea of pretty good ones, there are some that are just better. And yes, Sylvanas totally counts into that corner in my opinion as well.
Such a shame the writing for her character is complete trash right now, she does a good job. But at this point the story is a burning wreck.
@@patrickb1303 I think they started out okay or even good this addon overall. But they really dropped the ball on so many story arcs - and with Sylv? yeah, she is written so badly it isn't even funny.
Doesn't change the fact that she does give it her all.
Anduin: " I AM SO TIRED OF YOUR GAMES"
Thanks anduin, you read everyone's minds
Anduin is my favorite character in WoW, and his story is what keeps me in the lore honestly. I really hope they do his character justice and DO NOT kill him off. I also really want to see him and some passed relatives have a moment in this expansion. I think, it wouldn’t make sense for Anduin not to see his father in this expansion before it ends.
they will...to make a queen. Goin woke.
I'm a huge fan of Anduin. I knew, the moment they forced him to be the jailer's slave, we were going to have to deal with a King with a bad case of PTSD. That was so much a dark thing done and he's not going to come out of it well and will have to deal with things, learning to find his way with the darkness.. The War Within cinematic made me cry, my brother has PTSD from the Marines and things he saw, things he did, and that statement just really hit me. I can't wait for your next update on the story and to see how that whole thing plays out in the new expansion. Thanks, Nobbel, love your channel. I play for the lore and you're the best at putting it together.
I love your thoughts about Varian and Tiffen still potentially being in the SL. I never liked how they finished Varian's story. I hope it turns out to be true somehow.
I'd love Tiffin to appear, but tbh, Baine becoming a paladin and then freeing him would be dope.
maybe Baine goes and finds Varian and Tiffan, because he thinks that they will 100% succeed in freeing him from the Jailer's enthrallment
The cub has grown.
Hope something comes from calia being a light infused undead or whatever.
The banshee queen and the boy king.
It’s interesting how if anduin is mad at wrathion for what happened to his dad but if he hadn’t convinced vereesa to not go with sylvanas’s plan to poison garrosh then legion wouldn’t have invaded and varian would in tern still be alive. Interesting how fate works out that way huh.
14:09 I like what you said here.
That sword should be called shalamourne damnit! Who ever came up with “kingsmourne” needs to be smacked!
Legion was always going to reinvade Azeroth. Wrathion just moved their time up. Sargaras wanted our slumbering titan dead at all costs
@@cripplious true.
kingsmourne fits perfectly
Shalamourne is perfect. My guild and discord friends call it shalamourne instead of kingsmourne.
Thanks for this. Really enjoyed the series. As someone who stopped in Legion, I've still got some interest in where the story is in the retail game. Your videos helped to explain a lot.
Josh Keaton absolutely nails manduin.
Wonderful work as always, Nobbel! I love your lore videos and always use them as my go-to for reference!
The fact that tyrande isn't actively trying to kill Sylvanas anymore might point towards her getting a form of redemption while still being killed or something, like sacrificing herself to save anduin from the jailer
Great video ! Really good work :)) I can't wait to see what the future will reserve for Anduin and Sylvanas
I love your lore videos, its better than watching 90% of tv shows.
As always nice video. I think more or less its your videos who makes me continue to play the game. I like the lore and if I wasn't requmenteted to you I would have moved away from MMORPG for some time. I want to play the next part of the story and I have my own idea what will happen so im just looking upto how much my own idea of how Blizzard will go with the story is wrong in the next patch. Continue your lore videos its nice to see a person who adds more quality into the game then its own game devs.
My guess would be that Sylvanas will be "redeemed" by saving Anduin but I hope they do something different.
It's too risky to redeem her or kill her, I think eternal exile in some form is the safest route since people would be upset if she's killed of or if her numerous crimes is just... forgiven for one good deed.
@@TuberoseKisser and goddamn u were right
Hey Nobbel!!! I think we need a part 4 to explain Anduin in the new cinematic. Love you boo.
for sure needs an update soon tm. FOr now i got a reaction coming to the cutscene and will explain what goes on there
Thanks man. Been watching you since the WoD days. We getting old! Appreciate you still making content. @@Nobbel87
Wonder what the future of the goblins is lookin’ like - seems like they always have a shady leader that seems ok at first
That's how Gallywix appeared to you..? I still find it weird Thrall went with him, even in the moment. Gazlowe, however, is like the biggest bro you can get from the goblins.
I had a thought (I know it's not Anduin related technically), Sylvanas must have had a plan when she fired that arrow, cos she can't have actually thought that'd take the Jailer down? Or maybe she did and it's just terrible writing logic
Of course she has. I bet she has. Maybe she intended to provoke jailer to get her soul back.
Thanks for the summary on Anduin!
Lol nobbel with the silly storytelling shade - love it
I just hope Anduin doesn't become a victim of the poor writing we've been experiencing even more these last months. I am invested in the lore and the few good parts of it but the continous stream of: "Oh we had a good story but didn't had time/ways to deliver it so that's what you got in the expansion" are tiring me as much as Sylvana's games to Anduin.
I love wow lore but shadowland did just take one left step to hard
Can definitely see Vol'jin coming back as the new Loa of Kings & being apart of saving Anduin & empowering him in some way to fight the domination, later becoming apart of the bridge between the Horde & Alliance, especially if we return to a Light Invasion with an Anduin who I highly doubt will be the same light faithful user he once was. As it would again push the Horde & Alliance together against a foe needing someone as an in between as we have had the past few expansions.
There has been a few Shadow Anduin moments & now that he has gone through what he has (feeling the Darkness consume him), especially with a Light invasion we could see an Anduin who is a lot more like an in game priest who can tap into Light & Void.
So ready for this lets goooo
what if Varian and Tiffan are the ones responsible for calling Anduin back from the proverbial abyss, that his parents' love is responsible for breaking the Jailers hold on him
Can u do a lore video about Uldum please
well dragon fly is on its way but there is no fourth part for him i really want one :)
I know this isn't really the subject of the video, but I don't think I've ever hated a character more than I hate Sylvanas. I mean, she's well-written, interesting, and well-voiced...I just mean I want someone to take that smug bitch out. Honestly, she has done more horrible shit than what we've seen the Jailer do.
As Banshee Queen fan myself I have to say...yeah. I used to feel sorry for her, almost like she was the WoW version of Kerragin but... even I have to admit she's gone too far. Whatever fate happens will be too good for her.
Sad but true with the current story of WoW where Tyrande now forgives Sylvanas.
Well, no, she's not going to forgive her, but basically just let it go. Messed up either way, of course.
If Calia redeems the Forsaken and brings them to the Alliance:
Tyrande (with her usual troll accent): "Dis was our land. Elf land. De Kaldorei was here, before anyone. Da undead and their Horde came to drive us out. But we never give up. We never forget. And now dey fight alongside da Alliance? I spit on da Alliance! I hate you. I hate you all. De Kaldorei never give up. We never forget. We never die. Dis is our land. You wanna stay? You stay here forever. We gonna bury you here."
came here to find why do anduin looks like homeless in the new cinematic
Are all titans filled with Azerite?
Probably. What is usually called "ley lines" seem to be their "blood vessels", and when the blood erupts from a wound it crystallizes into Azerite. In the Well of Eternity it was in liquid form, though.
I bet it's different for each titan planet. For Sargeras' old world seed planet, I'm willing to bet it was called Sargerite. Or with Golganneth it be Golgenite.
@@philippeblais8594 - Well, the implication being that it would be the same substance in all titans' "vessels"... Blood is still called blood even if it comes from different individuals or species, but Azerite is specifically named for Azeroth, by Azerothians, because of circumstance.
this was so interesting
My favorite memory was when joelana was with frederick and they just kind of fighted and then they both gave up😭😭
Also need to mention that Anduin has void blood.
I love your videos dude, but after the Torghast part came at 17:00, I just had to dip, I'm so done with it 😭😂
But the scourge is running wild on azeroth.....
Anduin x wrathion actually be a really good non forced homosexual relationship...I mean if you think about it wrathion mentored anduin as a teen but he was technically still a baby himself
@13:17 oof...
萨格拉斯插剑那个画面严重违法牛顿万有引力。
My wishlist:
- Arthas makes an appearance, ultimately sacrificing/redeeming himself by saving Anduin at the cost of his own soul, just after helping dispose of Zoval, ending his story for good
- Sylvannas becomes whole again and returns as her former, mortal self, resulting in being forgiven for past transgressions
- Sylvannas admits the love she never got to choose was for Varian, and she sees much of him in Anduin, and she, as Ranger-General of the High Elves, becomes the queen of Stormwind
Their writing is bad enough I can see this happening.
Um, well... I don't think the last two are very likely, let's just say. :D
Weird but the lore is a mess now so don't mind if they do this
Also lol imagine marrying a human while you are an 2000 or 3000 year old elf dude she is as ancient as the whole human history lol
@@pandaprewmaster325 I mean, her sister's knocking boots with Turalyon, so.. not that crazy! :P
@@cvanims yea that's unacceptable XD
I dont care about the aliance, never have and never will. But im curies to what path they will put Anduin on. And the shadowlands will make him or break him. And Anduin's story intrests me. But i belive in the horde and hate the aliance. My fav race is forsaken but my main sins legion is a blood elf demon hunter.
Sylvanas reminds me of all those toxic hot woman I always fall for the same girl different faces.
i’m sorry but who suggested anduin hook up with wrathion 😐 i truly don’t care if they made anduin gay. but him dating wrathion just sounds super cringey
Also, that wouldn’t solve the lineage continuation issue, unless there’s some dragon shape shifting involved and right about there I cannot stomach it any longer…
Anduin x Taelia or bust. lol
Lame blizzard sucks , because of Activision
When how and why did blizz take up Activision?
Literally the most evil company in history
@@patriousthefallenknight3185 no idea Joker but the whole gameplay and lore started going down since they're together
@Episode Update - Not from the start though, right? Blizzard let Activision buy the company at some point. That gave them more money and resources to make games, but also lets Activision decide a lot of things.
First... yeah i just did that
Lucky bastard
So what's your favorite race in wow and what is your most hated?
Favorite for me is goblins
Most hated are gnomes...
second :flex:
Poor Nobel still hanging on WoW. My Advice: Go learn some FFXIV Lore its 10 times better.
This game needs to die.