I had a ‘06 C50 that I bought from a colleague in ‘08. Paid 3500 and it had 5K on it. It had an aftermarket touring package. I drilled out the pipes and removed the baffles also added a better seat. It was a great bike for me after an absence of riding for a number of years. Traded it in ‘14 for a ‘12 Yamaha VStar 1300 Tourer with 7 miles on it. Now I ride a ‘20 Road King. That Suzuki was a nice bike.
Jerry, Great video and right on. I bought one of those in 06. It was a C50T. Came with bags and windshield. I needed a Mustang seat for mine and fork windshield defectors. I also did some 400 mile days...not bad . I rode it 18000 miles in one year. Then I tried to adjust the valves but you needed the hands of a 2 year old. Finally just bought an 08 electraglide new and that fixed all the problems.
Drum rear brake, spoked wheels, single front disc brake, I'll pass. Bought my neighbors immaculate 1 owner 2002 Honda VTX 1800R for $3,000. He stopped driving it because he bought a Harvey -Diddleson.
Hi Jerry, me and my wife went to look at Harley Davidson baggers. The salesman said I have one for 27. I said, " that's too much right now", then he said 2700, we ended up purchasing a 98 electra glide 95th anniversary model with 152000 miles. I detailed it for 4 days, and it's been great. Went to thousand island bike rally twice! Love your channel, and will subscribe 😊
I have a 2002 Suzuki Intruder Volusia vl 800 I've been riding for nearly 10years now ,she's my first bike and we go cross-country everywhere . I have a Harley custom 1200xl in the barn as well as a couple of others but the Volusia is by far my favorite. Thanks for showing us that beautiful bike.
Great video, I like it when you review other bikes that aren't Harley's. I still have my Goldwing and Valkyrie which are great bikes. However, a Road King purchase may be in my future. I did a test ride on a used 2018 RK Classic a couple of months ago and really liked it. The dealer has my info and if they come down a little bit on the price and agree to store it for me until spring, I'll probably pull the trigger and buy it. Keep making those great videos!
@@robertstrohlin6051the heritage is a small heavy bike with double the displacement. The C50 is the same as the C90 except for the engine size. My brother had a C50 20 years ago and other than it being cold blooded he had no issues cruising at highway speeds and above, nor any transmission noise. 1,900 rpm is more than likely lugging the higher rpm biased small displacement bike that it is.
I have an 11 suzuki boulevard c50 & shes a great bike. Shes a great around twn bike as well as a highway bike. If ur lookn for a comfortable bike cruising @75 mph shes ur best buy. I have zero complaints.
Jerry, I could tell right away it was a Japanese vtwin as it turned over so-easily. HD seems to under power their starters, not enough CCA's or too little awg battery cables, as that first half crank sometimes stops on an Evo before it continues to crank. That's a real northern climate buster. Indian Scout forums complain of the same. Many on the Sportster pages have said HD's just don't care for starting below 40; that's a real shame and I can personally vouch that even on a tender, fuel injected, this is the case. This Zuk maybe a good alternative to those enthusiasts who ride year-round. Your video was a fair assessment of the capabilities of the Zuk cruiser. Jerry, keep reviewing other brands.
As I've stated many times, all the metric dealers within 100 miles will not allow test rides. Even on their cheapest models or used bikes. The Harley dealers will let you ride 45K CVO's any time. The Tampa Triumph dealer used to allow test rides but not anymore.
Now! Probably $3000. Right before Christmas. I live in South Florida and everybody I know is dumping off all of their extra bikes. Vintage club guys, collectors, car guys, boat guys etc. People are selling jet skis, dirtbikes, motor homes. Everything except guns. They are buying guns and Ammo. And some vintage cars. But bikes are going. Most of my friends say they have too many. I have 5 in my garage. 3 are mine. One vintage AMF bagger and one 1990s bagger is my friends. He has 2 FXRs in storage. He pays $6000 a year to keep them there. I let him keep them in my garage for free. I think that is one reason why people are dumping their bikes. The cost. Some of these vintage guys own 25-50 bikes in all state of repair. Some perfect and some for parts.
great off Harley segment. in addition to my 2013 FLHTK, i have a 2006 Yamaha Road Star 1700cc. i purchased it because i couldn't afford a Heritage Classic. Solid ride lots of low end torque but as you said, once you reach 60-65 mph, you're looking for another gear.
I bought my first bike this year. It is a 2011 C50T with 8k miles on it for $3K. I couldn’t be happier for a first bike. Happy to see you driving around on that C50 and enjoying it. I’ll probably upgrade to a Harley one of these days but I’m still learning and happy to drop a 3K bike much more than a 10-15k bike.
While, you can ride cross country on a Grom if you really want to, but a bike meant for that purpose would be a lot better, comfort-wise, and power-wise. In addition, I've owned over 20 Harleys over the years and have never had any of them leave me stranded.
LOVE the heavyweight Harley Davidson, I liked my Honda the first few years of my riding. But when I bought my Harley 17 or 18 years ago… you just can’t go back.
I have to keep my 1982 Zuk GS1100 to start when it's sunny and cold. The Sporty 1200 says no go below 45-ish degrees. Oh ya, the Zuk has 45K and is carbureted compared to my fuel injected Sportster. The Zuk also does NOT sit on a tender and the HD does, yet it does NOT start (vtwin shocker battery that is only a year old bought right from my HD dealer). Wet-sumped 20-50 is hard to churn to get back to the oil tank.
@@jasonrose6562 Here in central FL. from mid December to March we get temps. of 32 or less in the mornings. Of the 20 Harleys I've owned thru the years, only one had a problem starting in cold weather and that was because of a bad battery.
Great video I have a 2011 boulevard c50 it has upgraded air intake, vance&hines pipes and a tuner I ride in Florida and this bike shines on the state highways but given that I am still running 75 to 80 mph. It runs fine a touch vibratey but thats picking faults. I'll need to make a highway video and even on the interstate its fine. Ride it like a japanese bike they like the power in the upper mid range. But I'll admit i tried to flick to 6th a couple times 😊
I’ve always loved the Suzuki Boulevard C50T my first bike was a 2000 Honda Shadow I had for 3 years until I traded it in for a 2016 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 I still want one someday
Never seen a Suzuki sold at a harley dealer. The price is a bit high. I haven't heard anything bad about that bike other than what you mentioned about highway cruising
We had many fantastic deals on Honda Shadows, Yamaha Road Stars (👍👍👍) at two HD dealers I worked at, packed in storage sheds. They do not want Japanese trade in's. They go to auction and fetch peanuts. After all the diddling with interest rates and refusing to disclose such, adding points at both ends, concentrating of monthly payments and not price, then just plain redirection, it's easy when dealing with an eager customer! Wrong....but easy. Some fantastic bargains are to be had, especially if you'll take it with you and pay cash. No HD dealer wants to be seen selling the virtues of a Yamaha Road Star and trust me, it has many! A great bike. Even V-Rods can be had at nice prices, as knuckle draggers don't understand them, chest thumpers feel they are not a Harley, real riders cannot deal with a thimble for a gas tank and most first time Sportster riders would kill themselves at the first bend! They can be very quick with very little outlay. Just don't look at one as an investment, convert it to a 5 gallon tank (whole rear end removal required) a stiff front fork brace, air shocks, decent tires (Pirelli Night Dragons 👍) Kuryakin (sp?) Mini floorboards, TAB zorst system, a tuner and 2" cut down FLH bars and its a "nice" bike that'll give just about any other Harley a real run for its money, outside of a Buell. Just avoid bends. Harley dealers often have some great Japanese cruisers stashed they really wish they did not!
Good starter bigger bike for someone....seem funny seeing Joe on this as we called them in the day well not allowed to say today lol. If Harleys so bad why is every bike maker try to copy them to this day.
Hay Brother I didn't even finish your video. I'll get back to that. Man if you can afford it an you feel like the rode is calling you. Take that bike an go live your dream. Go see America. An take alot of video an pictures. Hell go an find a sponsor an go do your think. Don't look back. Make some new friends an have that one time in a life time adventure. See you out there.
Since Polaris shut down Victory some time ago, parts will be harder and harder to come by. The Vision is a big long heavy bike and will require lots and lots of practice to master. Check the Indian forums to find the problem areas on the Indian bikes. I know that the Chief Vintage had problems with rust. The Vintage's best year was the last year they made that model (2021 or 2022) In it's last year they shortened the wheelbase and rake making it a much better handling bike.
I put 28,000 miles on a 2008 C50 before I purchased a new Indian in 2014. A Sportster would be a downgrade to this bike in every way but the "Prestige" of owning a Harley. BTW, I'm not a Harley hater. My next bike will likely be either another Indian or a Harley. I've ridden all the new Indians and Harleys that interest me and still can't let go of my 2014 - Dan
@@Taino871 Up north you can. Sportsters don't like the cold. There are a plethora of low mileage Sportsters in the northern Great Lakes area for 5-6K with really low miles.
@@jasonrose6562 would you be able to point me in the right direction please ? They are crazy expensive up here in Clifton, Nutley Passaic area. Thank ypu
Ever notice how people refer to the Harley Davidson motorcycle as a "harley" even though it was the Davidson family that bought the rights and patents and are still the current owners of the franchise.
Yes I have. And I've spent many sleepless nights worrying about that. The Other sleepless nights I've spent wondering what happened to Robuck. Did Sears murder him, buy him out, or simply make him dissapear? 😁😁
Will not do 100mph, if you run up to 70 in 4th then shift to 5th you won't feel you need another gear.........85 maybe 90 Claims same tq HP numbers at same rpm as 883.... ridiculous, not close If you run 60 mph in 5th and just let the throttle go, you will drop to 45 in instant and you better be ready cause it will slam you I to the windshield There was more difference putting my wife on back than putting my son on back of 883 C50 is good bike, it also handles curves, it's not a get on a high speed interstate bike After deciding it's not enough, they make C90, good power, doesn't handle like C50, C90 was a disappointment That C50 looks like the crash guards will hit the ground before floorboards...... that's a bad thing
I had a ‘06 C50 that I bought from a colleague in ‘08. Paid 3500 and it had 5K on it. It had an aftermarket touring package. I drilled out the pipes and removed the baffles also added a better seat. It was a great bike for me after an absence of riding for a number of years. Traded it in ‘14 for a ‘12 Yamaha VStar 1300 Tourer with 7 miles on it. Now I ride a ‘20 Road King. That Suzuki was a nice bike.
Jerry,
Great video and right on.
I bought one of those in 06. It was a C50T. Came with bags and windshield.
I needed a Mustang seat for mine and fork windshield defectors. I also did some 400 mile days...not bad .
I rode it 18000 miles in one year.
Then I tried to adjust the valves but you needed the hands of a 2 year old. Finally just bought an 08 electraglide new and that fixed all the problems.
That's a nice bike, well worth $5,400. You can't go wrong with that, only 1,700 miles and ultra reliable.😊
Drum rear brake, spoked wheels, single front disc brake, I'll pass. Bought my neighbors immaculate 1 owner 2002 Honda VTX 1800R for $3,000. He stopped driving it because he bought a Harvey -Diddleson.
It's worth $2,000, IF you want it.
Hi Jerry, me and my wife went to look at Harley Davidson baggers. The salesman said I have one for 27. I said, " that's too much right now", then he said 2700, we ended up purchasing a 98 electra glide 95th anniversary model with 152000 miles. I detailed it for 4 days, and it's been great. Went to thousand island bike rally twice! Love your channel, and will subscribe 😊
I have a 2002 Suzuki Intruder Volusia vl 800 I've been riding for nearly 10years now ,she's my first bike and we go cross-country everywhere . I have a Harley custom 1200xl in the barn as well as a couple of others but the Volusia is by far my favorite. Thanks for showing us that beautiful bike.
I loved my 650 star. But just no passing power on highway. Bike handled like dream.
Little,plastic, wimpy thang! I serviced one years ago, absolute junk.
One of the many reasons I sold my VTX1800 and bought a Road King was the sixth gear. It makes all the difference in the world on the highway.
Great video, I like it when you review other bikes that aren't Harley's. I still have my Goldwing and Valkyrie which are great bikes. However, a Road King purchase may be in my future. I did a test ride on a used 2018 RK Classic a couple of months ago and really liked it. The dealer has my info and if they come down a little bit on the price and agree to store it for me until spring, I'll probably pull the trigger and buy it. Keep making those great videos!
Was waiting to see how it handled 18' U-turns. I would imagine it would be comparable to a Heritage? I enjoy your off Harley reviews as well.
It will do 18ft turns no problem.
I bet its lean angle is better than the Heritage at least the older ones anyways.
It is. Just Sooo much smaller. But for an 800. It's no slouch. But being what it is. 5th gear sounds like it's going to explode at 1900rpms.
@@robertstrohlin6051the heritage is a small heavy bike with double the displacement. The C50 is the same as the C90 except for the engine size. My brother had a C50 20 years ago and other than it being cold blooded he had no issues cruising at highway speeds and above, nor any transmission noise. 1,900 rpm is more than likely lugging the higher rpm biased small displacement bike that it is.
I have an 11 suzuki boulevard c50 & shes a great bike. Shes a great around twn bike as well as a highway bike. If ur lookn for a comfortable bike cruising @75 mph shes ur best buy. I have zero complaints.
I had 03 Suzuki Intruder 1400. I had 44000 miles on it before I sold it. I had no issues.
I bought 2023 C50T, in love with it 🫡
My first bike was a 76 Suzuki 750 water buffalo. Loved it. $500
Jerry, I could tell right away it was a Japanese vtwin as it turned over so-easily. HD seems to under power their starters, not enough CCA's or too little awg battery cables, as that first half crank sometimes stops on an Evo before it continues to crank. That's a real northern climate buster. Indian Scout forums complain of the same. Many on the Sportster pages have said HD's just don't care for starting below 40; that's a real shame and I can personally vouch that even on a tender, fuel injected, this is the case. This Zuk maybe a good alternative to those enthusiasts who ride year-round. Your video was a fair assessment of the capabilities of the Zuk cruiser. Jerry, keep reviewing other brands.
5w 40 oil -5 C is chilly but doable.
As I've stated many times, all the metric dealers within 100 miles will not allow test rides. Even on their cheapest models or used bikes. The Harley dealers will let you ride 45K CVO's any time. The Tampa Triumph dealer used to allow test rides but not anymore.
Imagine what that bike would sell for from an individual seller ? Dealer markup is pretty big !
I own a 2019, with 60000 km a dealer would give between $2500 - $3000. That's all it is worth.
@@geraldjlemoine And they’ll turn around and sell it for $5000
Now! Probably $3000. Right before Christmas. I live in South Florida and everybody I know is dumping off all of their extra bikes. Vintage club guys, collectors, car guys, boat guys etc. People are selling jet skis, dirtbikes, motor homes. Everything except guns. They are buying guns and Ammo. And some vintage cars. But bikes are going. Most of my friends say they have too many. I have 5 in my garage. 3 are mine. One vintage AMF bagger and one 1990s bagger is my friends. He has 2 FXRs in storage. He pays $6000 a year to keep them there. I let him keep them in my garage for free. I think that is one reason why people are dumping their bikes. The cost. Some of these vintage guys own 25-50 bikes in all state of repair. Some perfect and some for parts.
Made my best money sell used over new new inventory
great off Harley segment. in addition to my 2013 FLHTK, i have a 2006 Yamaha Road Star 1700cc. i purchased it because i couldn't afford a Heritage Classic. Solid ride lots of low end torque but as you said, once you reach 60-65 mph, you're looking for another gear.
I bought my first bike this year. It is a 2011 C50T with 8k miles on it for $3K. I couldn’t be happier for a first bike. Happy to see you driving around on that C50 and enjoying it. I’ll probably upgrade to a Harley one of these days but I’m still learning and happy to drop a 3K bike much more than a 10-15k bike.
Sounds like you're dissing this bike , that bike is fine for a long trip. It's not going to break down an hd
While, you can ride cross country on a Grom if you really want to, but a bike meant for that purpose would be a lot better, comfort-wise, and power-wise. In addition, I've owned over 20 Harleys over the years and have never had any of them leave me stranded.
Love my Japanese 2000cc Vulcan! 1 owner 16k miles for 3,900. I don't see any reason for another any time soon.
I enjoy riding the area... backroads from New Port Richey north to Brooksville.
LOVE the heavyweight Harley Davidson, I liked my Honda the first few years of my riding. But when I bought my Harley 17 or 18 years ago… you just can’t go back.
I have to keep my 1982 Zuk GS1100 to start when it's sunny and cold. The Sporty 1200 says no go below 45-ish degrees. Oh ya, the Zuk has 45K and is carbureted compared to my fuel injected Sportster. The Zuk also does NOT sit on a tender and the HD does, yet it does NOT start (vtwin shocker battery that is only a year old bought right from my HD dealer). Wet-sumped 20-50 is hard to churn to get back to the oil tank.
@@jasonrose6562 Here in central FL. from mid December to March we get temps. of 32 or less in the mornings. Of the 20 Harleys I've owned thru the years, only one had a problem starting in cold weather and that was because of a bad battery.
@@motorman857 tried a different tender. CTEK MXS 5.0 seems to have done the trick. 43F this morning and the Sporty fired up.
@@motorman857 tried a different tender. CTEK MXS 5.0 seems to have done the trick. 43F this morning and the Sporty fired up.
Great video I have a 2011 boulevard c50 it has upgraded air intake, vance&hines pipes and a tuner
I ride in Florida and this bike shines on the state highways but given that I am still running 75 to 80 mph. It runs fine a touch vibratey but thats picking faults. I'll need to make a highway video and even on the interstate its fine. Ride it like a japanese bike they like the power in the upper mid range. But I'll admit i tried to flick to 6th a couple times 😊
My first brand new bike was a 750 GSL Suzuki paid $3,500 for it in 1981. Crazy how much bikes cost these days.
yep wages are four times also
Shaft drive, leaker.
I ride a Suzuki boulevard C109RT it's very similar looking but has the M109R engine and weighs 900lbs
Nice bike, love the sound.
The 2009 C50T is my starter bike. I have been enjoying learning on quite a bit.
Wow did I falling to that story Line with both feet. Not a bad sales pitch. I should of waited till the end of the video
I'm always looking for a 6th gear on my 1988 FXSTC. Jayman...
Really like the camera side view.
You need to check out the 650 Royal Enfield super meteor it is the perfect 650 highway bike.
Josh, how do they hold on the highway ? Can you get up to 65 70 MPH and still be able to get around a car or 2. ?
I’ve always loved the Suzuki Boulevard C50T my first bike was a 2000 Honda Shadow I had for 3 years until I traded it in for a 2016 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 I still want one someday
Never seen a Suzuki sold at a harley dealer. The price is a bit high. I haven't heard anything bad about that bike other than what you mentioned about highway cruising
We had many fantastic deals on Honda Shadows, Yamaha Road Stars (👍👍👍) at two HD dealers I worked at, packed in storage sheds.
They do not want Japanese trade in's. They go to auction and fetch peanuts. After all the diddling with interest rates and refusing to disclose such, adding points at both ends, concentrating of monthly payments and not price, then just plain redirection, it's easy when dealing with an eager customer! Wrong....but easy.
Some fantastic bargains are to be had, especially if you'll take it with you and pay cash.
No HD dealer wants to be seen selling the virtues of a Yamaha Road Star and trust me, it has many! A great bike. Even V-Rods can be had at nice prices, as knuckle draggers don't understand them, chest thumpers feel they are not a Harley, real riders cannot deal with a thimble for a gas tank and most first time Sportster riders would kill themselves at the first bend! They can be very quick with very little outlay. Just don't look at one as an investment, convert it to a 5 gallon tank (whole rear end removal required) a stiff front fork brace, air shocks, decent tires (Pirelli Night Dragons 👍) Kuryakin (sp?) Mini floorboards, TAB zorst system, a tuner and 2" cut down FLH bars and its a "nice" bike that'll give just about any other Harley a real run for its money, outside of a Buell. Just avoid bends.
Harley dealers often have some great Japanese cruisers stashed they really wish they did not!
It Doesn’t replace the HD but is a Great alternative 😊
Believe it or not… I really like the look of this bike. $5400. Here in Northern New Jersey…. That’s a bargain.
@@LordFluffingtons I hoping it didn’t damage anything! Regardless drive safe my friend. Enjoy. And I know it was worth every cent.
Good starter bigger bike for someone....seem funny seeing Joe on this as we called them in the day well not allowed to say today lol. If Harleys so bad why is every bike maker try to copy them to this day.
I have a ct90 great touring and good power
A very nice bike 👍
Hay Brother I didn't even finish your video. I'll get back to that. Man if you can afford it an you feel like the rode is calling you. Take that bike an go live your dream. Go see America. An take alot of video an pictures. Hell go an find a sponsor an go do your think. Don't look back. Make some new friends an have that one time in a life time adventure. See you out there.
Give me your thoughts on Victory vision and Indian Chief vintage. I see many used ones for sale and just wondering what could be the problem.
Since Polaris shut down Victory some time ago, parts will be harder and harder to come by. The Vision is a big long heavy bike and will require lots and lots of practice to master. Check the Indian forums to find the problem areas on the Indian bikes. I know that the Chief Vintage had problems with rust. The Vintage's best year was the last year they made that model (2021 or 2022) In it's last year they shortened the wheelbase and rake making it a much better handling bike.
I have heard Harley has gone to plastic wheel bearings on their bikes, if so I would pass on that.
Rev it! That motor likes to rev.
I'm surprised that the Harley dealer would have a metric bike in stock.
People trade in all kinds of bikes at Harley dealers.
@@motorman857 Harley dealers around here don't. Believe me, I tried.
I'm in NY.
Looks kinda like a cop bike , but looks good,
For 5 or 6k you can land a nice sportster
Where can you purchase a sportster For 6 K ?
I put 28,000 miles on a 2008 C50 before I purchased a new Indian in 2014. A Sportster would be a downgrade to this bike in every way but the "Prestige" of owning a Harley. BTW, I'm not a Harley hater. My next bike will likely be either another Indian or a Harley. I've ridden all the new Indians and Harleys that interest me and still can't let go of my 2014 - Dan
@@Taino871 Up north you can. Sportsters don't like the cold. There are a plethora of low mileage Sportsters in the northern Great Lakes area for 5-6K with really low miles.
@@jasonrose6562 would you be able to point me in the right direction please ? They are crazy expensive up here in Clifton, Nutley Passaic area. Thank ypu
i would just go another low milage EVL @@jasonrose6562
🤠 👍
Ever notice how people refer to the Harley Davidson motorcycle as a "harley" even though it was the Davidson family that bought the rights and patents and are still the current owners of the franchise.
Yes I have. And I've spent many sleepless nights worrying about that. The Other sleepless nights I've spent wondering what happened to Robuck. Did Sears murder him, buy him out, or simply make him dissapear? 😁😁
@@motorman857 just like the Harley family , I don't think they produced any sons. Daughters didn't pass on the family names back in the ol' days.
I'll stick to the club style instead.
Will not do 100mph, if you run up to 70 in 4th then shift to 5th you won't feel you need another gear.........85 maybe 90
Claims same tq HP numbers at same rpm as 883.... ridiculous, not close
If you run 60 mph in 5th and just let the throttle go, you will drop to 45 in instant and you better be ready cause it will slam you I to the windshield
There was more difference putting my wife on back than putting my son on back of 883
C50 is good bike, it also handles curves, it's not a get on a high speed interstate bike
After deciding it's not enough, they make C90, good power, doesn't handle like C50, C90 was a disappointment
That C50 looks like the crash guards will hit the ground before floorboards...... that's a bad thing
Yuk
It's a Japanese pretend bike! period.
Living in a plastic land.....
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