Flying a Powered Parachute vs a Powered Paraglider Trike | Which is for you?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Just what is a powered parachute and how is it different from a powered paraglider trike?
They are both great machines that will get you into the sky. They are more alike than they are different, but sometimes different rules apply.
The FAA defines a lot of terms in the very beginning of the regulations, including a definition for powered parachutes.
The FAA says that, "Powered parachute means a powered aircraft comprised of a flexible or semi-rigid wing connected to a fuselage so that the wing is not in position for flight until the aircraft is in motion. The fuselage of a powered parachute contains the aircraft engine, a seat for each occupant and is attached to the aircraft's landing gear."
There is no separate definition for paragliders, powered paragliders (PPG), powered paraglider trikes, or powered paraglider quads in the FAA regs. We talk about Part 103 ultralight rules and how they apply to both powered paraglider trikes and powered parachutes.
Bottom line, if you are wanting to fly recreationally and you just want to take someone flying for fun, a two-place powered parachute with a sport pilot license remains your only truly legal route.
It comes down to your flying mission and your budget. If you are happy flying solo, you can save a lot of money by just getting into an ultralight.
If you want the ability to fly some else, a greater flying range, easier launches, flying at night, and the ability to fly in slightly windier conditions, a powered parachute is a great way to go.
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Roy… I wish I had met you 6 years ago! I was SO excited about flying PPCs! I purchased a Buckeye Dream Machine (Rotax 582) with a new APCO 500 Cruiser wing. Unfortunately, I had three instructors that I had nothing in common with and ended up feeling anxious, pressured, and belittled just being around them. I ended up selling the beautiful unit a few years later and chalked up the whole experience to a dream temporarily realized. 😐 REALLY grateful I “powered through” the stress of being around those folks and got licensed regardless and was able to get in the air. I never developed the confidence I felt I needed to take someone up. I always felt that if I had a patient and kind instructor, it might have been a much different experience. I am NOT blaming anyone (but myself) for my departure from the sport but simply wanted to let you know how appreciated your style of communication and demonstration of your obvious joy around flying is. If I ever decide to give it another go - I will be on the lookout for someone like yourself to share your knowledge and love of flying to train with. Thank you for the wonderful attitude you portray! Fly on!
@doughalper: Thanks so much, Doug! I'm so happy that you powered through. Flying is a dream that depends so much on good instruction. And good instruction means being able to establish a connection.
Hey Doug, I appreciate your comments! My name is Randy though.I have talked to several instructors on line from Captain Kurt to Trevor and a couple of others. They gave me a few good pointers but insisted that I pay and get professional tutoring, hands on instructions for. I undesrand their point of view, however I believe flying with a friend who you can connect with, taking your time, learn to kite your wing and practice,practice, practice that in three to five months I will have enough hands on and my friends knowledge in me to be successful in my flight. I have already decided to get a quad instead of foot launching due to my age( 64) but I am still continue to kite my wing until I can foot launch. But in the meantime I'm building my own dream machine quad! It's a fun project for me and I have a different friend who is a fab shop owner , he and I are putting one together built out of a racing go-cart. I'll post pics when we are done hopefully in April. I have a Windtech pulsar 32mm wing with a 185R vittorazzi parajet setup! It's gonna fly baby fly! Thanks again for your inspirational pep talk.
I started foot launch paramotor training with someone and I know exactly how you felt, I didn't feel the patience and kindness from him, but felt like in was rushed and belittled.
@@EasyFlight Yes… connection! And simple patience. Thank you for your easy going style and down-to-earth love of the sport! Because of your attitude, I may pick it back up again one day. 😎
@@user-if9sw3kd2r I love it - SO excited for you! YES, please send pics!!!
I'm for Powered Parachute. I'm taking the 60 min "Discovery Flight" tomorrow 5/25/22 at "New England Chute Flyers" Concord (airport), NH. I went once out of the Laconia, NH Airport in the 1990's, it's been awhile. It's going to be fun.
5 STARS!
--Van
Thanks for the info. This video should be on the must view list for anyone interested in the sport.
Thanks so much for the positive feedback!
Hello, I fly a PPG. One of the things that happens when taking off in a PPG is that when the wing is inflating, the trike normally reverses a little. I imagine Powered Parachutes would not do that since their engines are more powerful, and the aircraft is heavier. Once you get the hang of it, a PPG would just as easy to get in the air as a Powered Parachute. PPG pilots normally just fly for about one hour or so. Like the Part 103 says, it's mostly intended for recreation. Very rarely ar PPG's used for competition. And yes, only one occupant.
Thanks for the observation, @rickzelaya1960. The issue often is your caveat, "Once you get the hang of it..." 😀
Excellent review of the differences, Roy. Well done! Folks trying to make a decision about which of these aircraft types to pursue will find this very valuable.
Thank you, Dan! You didn't mention it, so I will...
Dan has his own UA-cam channel at ua-cam.com/channels/Og1_6_IgeL3sbKlfkW_iWg.html
It is definitely worth checking out if you like all kinds of light sport aircraft and ultralights.
1st thing I thought was that a trike only has disadvantages, well mostly at least, it's extra weight, you have less control yourself (when landing mainly), and not all ground is suited for wheels to land or take off on, or am I missing some things? :)
I went from a PPG trike to a PPC and never regretted it, much easier takeoffs had a Powrachute single seat with a Rotax 503
I've heard that before. I don't have any personal experience in PPG trikes, but what I've heard mirrors what you said.
@@EasyFlight I had a Powrachute Sky Rascal 503 Rotas, wonderful single place aircraft.......
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I'm training now with Roy on powered parachutes at Marion County Airport, Dunnellon, FL. Outstanding experience and I recommend this training highly.
Thanks, John! It has been great flying with you!
I disagree, by definition, parachutes are designed to “fall safely” and paragliders are designed to “glide and soar”
Good point. The thing is, technically, the 'parachutes' on powered parachutes are considered gliders. They are flying airfoils as opposed to the round style parachutes, which are the true simply drag devices.
Indeed...if you are here to fly loving 37 meters wing glider, but "what an ultra light or tricke or parapent glider or power parapent?
When I was younger I used to skydive but now I have a goal to buy or build a PPG Trike. Ideally, I'd want to be able to haul camping gear on cross-country trips so a tandem trike is probably the way I'll go. Fabricating my own trike frame that has one seat but cargo space up front & rigging it with a tandem wing with a larger power plant is one of the options I've been thinking of.
As long as it has just a cargo area and not a second seat, you will be able to fly it as an ultralight if it meets all of the other criteria.
SUPER Dell Schanze says you're full of it. I think you are quite educated in what you do and what you teach. You're a great example of why people WANT to fly.
Hi Brandon! Dell has a lot of opinions about a lot of things. I don't know why he would have any issues with me.
Thanks a lot for the support!
Dell just dislikes everyone who doesn't use or bye his gear.
Thank you for making the effort in making this video. You did a great job. I have owned everything from hang gliders to aircrafts and got to fly powered parachutes with a 747 pilot that would rather fly his powered trike than the 747. In Florida we got lots of flight time. I was all excited to retire and start flying more. Unfortunately I got injured in my job working for the SEALS and Spec Operations with the PJs.
I can’t get my medical any more. Brian injury 🤕. I hope to watch everything you produce and become your poster boy.
🙏 thank you‼️‼️
Thanks, Bill! First, thank you for your service!
People always seem surprised that fun and simple powered parachutes could be as much of a pleasure or even more of a pleasure to fly than larger aircraft of all kinds.
I'm interested in your situation. Powered parachutes are something that might just be for you!
I don't ever remember my grandfather looking young but man.... you look just like him if I imagined him younger. On a less sad note I'd really love to learn how to fly!
That's a kind thing to say! I hope you are able to start on your path to becoming a pilot someday soon!
I want a nice inefficient but stable wing that I can fly in mid day and not worry about a collapse. The Paraplane Ultralight used a Ram Air Parachute. The guy had crowds of people flying after just watching a 45 minute video. Paramotoring is bassackwards where they start you out with an aerobatic wing doing foot launch. I would say teach them to fly with wheels, get used to it, then consider foot launching.
The Paraplane was an awesome piece of technology.
@@EasyFlight Is it possible to get a ram air wing for my PPG Trike. I have 26HP. Me + the trike is less than 300 pounds. Thanks in advance.
Roy, Great video. It has been 22 years since I took training there in Greenville. No longer fly but had an enjoyable 10 year adventure...
Larry! Great to hear from you! I need to visit with you again some day! I'm glad you enjoyed your experience!
Great video. Thank you for helping me to understand the different powered vehicles. It is a great place to start researching the sport.
This is great content. I am a Free-Flight Paraglider Pilot, and love it!
Thanks! Free-Flight is awesome, too.
I am definitely considering making the move to the USA next year. One of the key reasons is all that space to fly! I will watch your videos between now and then and if you are still offering training when I move, I would love to be trained by someone who takes such time and effort to explain the differences as well as you did in this video.
Hi Gambi! Thanks so much!
I will make this comment short (uncharacteristic for me). I am fighting the urge to tell you how much flying means to me. I have been paralyzed in indecision for over three years now, in what ppg wing, brand or gear is the safest, but also allows for room to grow without having to buy all new equipment. I have no idea how after all this diligence, I am now facing a new direction of fulfilling my dream and celebration of life post cancer (ppc). Thank you for your video and time in making it. I smashed the subscribe button and like. Only a few weeks ago I talked to an instructor that said ppc is the way to go for me with my ambitions, but you point out that ppc is for someone wanting to fly tandem. The instructor I talked to explained in detail the cost of ppc vs ppg, with ppc costing less. I am not challenging you to defend yourself sir. I feel I just went back in time over three years after being cleared of cancer and deciding to live, only to be paralyzed by indecision once again. Please help me.
I fly paratrike, but I really liked your explanation.
Thank you! It even gets to be more fun when we start paying attention to what Europeans call the equipment. Everything is a Paramotor there, or used to be.
The European Fresh Breeze Paramotor Trike uses a 250 cc Fuel Injected engine- is a 4 stroke, it is a very fuel efficient engine with little maintenance...
Sounds great! I don't think that I've seen one yet.
Great video, I bought my first Paraplane in 1982 from Steve Sneider with whom I became a good friend untill his tragic accident. I am 70 now, a Helicóptero Pilot with 30 years of experience but I want to go back to a modern Paraplane for 2 people. I will surely contact you for advise and training
Dude, that's a seriously slamming intro for a brand new channel!
Thanks so much!
I love you man for coming up with the legal definition that's the cornerstone it's where we all are forced to agree just a little bit. And something people are as wound up and is emotional about as a hobby of this caliber having the legal definition out to start with that is the best thing you can do thank you so much for sharing that with me
I really enjoyed the comparison. Well done. I just bought the new Blackhawk aero 1000 bush dawg quad. I'm going to fly that awhile and try the powered parachute in a year or two, i know I'll need training on that because it's a little different.
Good luck with your new Quad!
Yes, great production right off the bat!! Good work man gotta support is little guys!
Thanks! I'm trying to do things right. Then my training schedule filled up and I put things on pause. I hope to get producing again soon!
Great video it’s so nice to see all that flat land you have at your fingertips, you see I’m from New England , about 15 miles north of Boston and let me tell you the sport of powered paragliding, or parachute , is non existent up here. There is no place to go for someone to get good training, and or check out and purchase quality equipment in this sport. There’s nowhere to even watch people fly to possibly get interested in the sport .
I myself got the bug while on vacation in 2003 where I got close up and personal with a bunch of guys that were flying around and take off and landing on a strip of beach right in front of my beach house. Well that did it for me, weeks later I did my research and watched a couple of thousand videos and searched for somewhere I could get proper instructions that’s when I found out that a professional business owner with a hectic schedule like myself couldn’t just pick up and go to flight school a thousand miles away you see I was hoping to find instructions much closer to home
So that’s where self instruction came in , I purchased a fresh breeze Paramoter unit , shopped around and bought a brand new ozone wing . After hours of research, I built my own super lightweight trike unit. I also bought a used small beginner wing so I could perfect the art of kiting
16 years later and hundreds of hours of flying under my belt. There is still no place for someone to go and get good instructions I have had many people beg me to teach them to fly and I absolutely refuse to do so , my advice is to go seek out professional help,
Now I myself would like to take on a passenger and powered parachute looks like it would bea perfect fit for me , but once again..... no instructions near me. I’m 63 years old in good shape . Time is my enemy I just live in the wrong region
If anyone out there knows where there is a class of instruction In the Massachusetts area lease drop a comment, Thanks
Hi Fred! Thanks for writing. I know that there are a few instructors north of you in New Hampshire and Maine. Is that still too far? I used to know an instructor in Massachusetts, but that was a long time ago.
I find one of our last comments a little confusing. Wheel launch in zero or near zero wind is preferred by many powered paraglider trike pilots. In no way, shape or form is it difficult to inflate and bring a modern glider overhead on a trike. It's actually trickier on foot launch and requires a fairly steep learning curve to achieve a very low or no wind foot launch.
Having near zero experience with PPC, I guess I'm not really certain how it is easier aside from the fact that many PPG trike pilots hand guide the A risers on inflation. Again, it's a learned skill but not a particularly difficult one.
As some other folks have mentioned, PPG is also drifting into the 4-stroke market with ever more powerful offerings while retaining ultra-light status. Recently, we're even starting to see offerings in electric propulsion with up to 1 hour flight times.
I would also add that PPG is almost always far more portable than PPC. Foot launch units often break down into a size and shape that can be loaded into a compact car trunk. All foot launch units fit easily into a pickup truck bed. Even most trike units fold up sufficiently to fit in a pickup truck or even smaller vehicles.
One final difference is the agility of a paraglider wing is often multiple factors higher than a PPC. Quick, sharp maneuvers with high bank angles are quick and easy to enter and control. Shorter line sets also quicken roll rates by comparison.
One question I do have is speed ranges on PPC. Are any of the modern wing offerings able to vary speed in any way? Several Paragliders that I own have trimmed speed ranges from about 25 mph slow to 45 mph fully accelerated. Last I heard, Powered Parachutes fly one speed and only one speed. Is this still the case?
Thanks for the comment. I guess that it turns out that with modern wings, the gap between powered parachutes and powered paraglider trikes is narrowing.
I've seen failed launches in PPG trikes. The occasions were when pilots were taking passengers. It may have been more to do with the less powerful engines and smaller props working to build up forward speed.
I have been flying a ultralight powered parachute for over 5 years and have been very satisfied. It is surprising to me that single seat powered parachutes are not more popular and available.
Hi Robert. I agree. My first machine was a single-place Part 103 Six Chuter. I had some really great times flying it!
I saw one of your other videos about PPC and asked about why someone would want a PPC over a PPG and didn’t know about this video, great information. About tandem though we can fly tandem with paraglider’s or powered paraglider’s but they have to be classified as a “training flight” but it absolutely is done all the time. I could see the PPC being easier and less prone to collapse however the newer EN-A and low EN-B wings are pretty damn bulletproof. I was launching in a strong wind off a 4,000’ mountain today and let my glider get ahead of me, wound up having an asymmetric collapse that popped right back out on launch, probably wouldn’t have even noticed if it wasn’t for the sound, and slight lack of pressure for a split second, it came back out that fast. But the wind kicked up to probably 20 mph out of nowhere, the risk you take flying in thermic conditions, but I’m a free flight pilot so thermic conditions is what I do, and the occasional ridge soaring, but I really enjoy thermalling and cross country type flying. Some day I’ll add a butt fan to the mix, even though I’m more interested in paragliding than PPC it’s still interesting to see what PPC is all about, and I definitely think it’s got a place, and for certain people a lot safer than PPG. Thanks for the info and reading my long comment (if you did🤣)
Thanks!
A lot of people do fly two-place PPGs and even PPCs illegally. What I try to do is explain how to do things in a way that is safe and keeps people on the right side of the law.
Powered parachutes offer more stability than powered paragliders partly because they are heavier, go faster and load the wings more.
Hope the collapse turned out OK. That sounds wicked coming off of a 4,000' mountain!
Looking forward to discussions about wings, rectangular vs elliptical. Many people are afraid of ellipticals because they don't understand them. If they did, more people would fly them. I fly an E280 and E340S on 2-place Six Chuters and love them!
I'm glad you are having a good experience with your wings!
Enjoyed your commentary.. it was articulate and informative. When the video is disorienting.. I don't enjoy it as much.. I guess it's tiring.. I'm constantly trying to orient myself with reference to straight and level flight. Truth is though, video from these type crafts can be so relaxing, destressing and pleasureble.. a wonder it's not regulated by the FDA and by prescription only. Thanks so much.
Hi Ken! Thanks for the comment! Truth is, that was my very first video. I've gotten a little bit better with the camera since then. My more recent stuff is less disorienting. And yes, the flying is very relaxing. I guess more relaxing than the video makes it look like. 😀
Trying to talk one of my lifelong buddies & fellow airline pilot into considering PPG vs. PPC. He's a previous PPC owner looking to sell his crappy 1948 Aeronica Champ... with it's limitations and annual costs, & come back to the more affordable, but almost as capable fabric wing side of aviation. "Transportability" (is that a word?) is in his sights and PPG blows PPC away in ability to transport. Especially so with new offerings from companies like Fly Products USA and the Vitorazzi Cosmos engine. I'm certain that he'll like PPG with a tandem exemption, way more that PPC, but YMMV. Fly safe!
Powered parachutes and powered paragliders are both a lot of fun. Similar, but different rules.
Great explanation of a somewhat confusing comparison for a newcomer. Just got my sign off for the PPC and I'm excited to locate a machine and join the fun.
Good informative video for an introduction into the sport and basic differences.
Glad it was helpful!
Been flying now for 20 year's Roy and, I enjoyed your video. I fly PPL
Thank's Robert!
This is a very informative video, I love the fact that it is very honest and accurate. I fly a power parachute and all the information was 100% true and accurate. Thanks
Thank you so much! That is what I was aiming for!
Hello Roy
I'm just retired, and have been enterrested in training and purchasing a two place trike. I live in north central indiana. I'm just starting my quest at flying, choosing equipment, choosing training sites, being part of a community of like minded flyers..
Waldo Trueb
Thank you
Good luck getting into the sky!
Your video was fantastic! The explanation of the differences between the two was excellent! Good jib sir!
Thank you very much, Paul!
I enjoyed the information in this video. The constantly moving camera angles during flight, while trying to read, left something to be desired.
Thank you for the feedback, Matt!
I'm trying to keep the B-roll interesting. I can see where that might be distracting while trying to read something!
I haven't put up a lot of text in my most recent videos, but when I do, I'll keep your feedback in mind!
Trikes are a LOT more responsibility to own than a PPC.
Trailering-up, trailering-down, or renting hangar-space, etc.
I was lucky to share a hangar under the wing of a Cessna, and was able to split the cost with him.
Next time, I'll absolutely be getting a backpack PPC
The trikes I'm referring to are three-wheeled PPCs or PPGs.
I'm guessing that you are talking about weight shift control trikes.
@@EasyFlight Hi!
No, I was referring to what were originally called powered parachutes...before the terms got diluted. Trikes that used parachute for a wing, such as Buckeye's and Powrachutes.
Thx for answering!
Got it. Now we are on the same page!
great explanations of the differences!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
Great information
Appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge and insights...and contributing to the overall knowledge base.
Thanks so much for the feedback! It keeps me motivated!
Great job on the videos and information! Looking forward to taking a introductory flight.
Thank you Thomas!
Ive got two paramotors and love them. Have never had the chance to use a fixed wing glider.
I would like to hear more on common ways people fund the purchase and insurance options. The route for a fixed wing purchase and insurance is pretty straight forward. But not so much for powered parachutes.
Hi James. That is a really great topic. It is certainly different for powered parachute owners. That topic is going on the list!
I was looking 👀 answers to the same question.
Thank-you.
I'm glad that I was able to help some!
A lot of good information in this video. I appreciate your work sir.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the Awesome video, it gives me another perspective on ppc, you did a great job explaining the differencees. I haven't had a chance to fly a ppc yet so I can't really compare them, although i would love to give it a try! I Have been a foot launch ppg pilot for a few years, but i had excellent training and a great local ppg community. We even have a ppc pilot in our group that flys with us from time to time. So most of us get about 3 hours out of a 3g tank. Some units even longer. Most of our units fly between 30-50+mph depending on your wing. You can land and take off in very tight conditions if you need to or want to lol. And you can land at around 5 mph. Engine outs do not happen often, only once for me and i have been flying quite a bit for a few years. Most of the units we fly are very good and well maintained. Also even if you have an engine out you can land just about anywhere because we can land so slow at full flair. We typically don't fly over water unless we have good flotation devices. It's an awesome and free way to fly, the only downside is you can't take a passenger with out a special endorsement 🤷♂️. Even though you "don't need" training to fly, it's highly recommended. And with good training you should be able to foot launch in null wind conditions just fine. I can fit my unit in my van, car, or truck, and drive to the field or just fly from my back yard and be set up and ready to launch in minutes to catch that perfect sunset.
WOW !
Thank you for the explanation!
Great information. Thanks for sharing! Are you in South Florida by any chance?
I'm outside Ocala, so I guess more north or central.
Superb explanation. Clears the confusion. Please provide a list of your top 5 ppc.
I probably need to do a video on that!
Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, have a great day, keep it up the outstanding job.
Thank you!
Hi Roy. Nice job as always! It would be helpful to discuss the different types of PPC wings available (rectangular vs elliptical), what the differences are, and which you should consider flying. Ellipticals have gotten a bad rap because most people don't understand them, then they get in trouble, or hear of someone who had trouble, and blame the wing unfairly. Maybe this is beyond your scope, but it would be good info for those wanting to flying something more efficient than a big party tent!
Thanks! That is a great idea. I wanted to talk a little more about wings in this episode, but I already felt that I was getting a little long-winded...
I agree that ellipticals have gotten a bad deal reputation-wise.
In a video coming up, a pilot flying a Chiron wing will be supplying the B-roll. I think you will enjoy the footage!
@@EasyFlight Looking forward to that! I have 2 ASAP e-wings myself, and friends who fly them too. One friend flies the E340S on his Airwolf and legally hunts coyotes! E-wings can't be beat, but must be understood before flying them. Hoping your can bring that understanding.
Informative and helpful. One observation as PPG guy with a trike:
I believe that you stated that in calm wind conditions a parachute glider and a foot launch PPG are easier to launch than a triked PPG? if that is the statement oh, then I would like to suggest that the trike PPG like the parachute glider are similarly easy to launch in calm wind conditions. In both cases we just sit there and power up until we left off. Effortless! Actually, it is the foot lunch PPG that has been difficult time. The foot launching person has no wind to assist with lift, so they must run harder and longer, which can be quickly exhausting and result in a failed launch. you did not say anything about aerobatic maneuvers . Although that's not really something I'm and, I was thinking that with the parachute glider you trade off the ability to do aerobatics for the benefit of stability? Again, really enjoyed the content
I agree with you that foot launch is the tougher in calm conditions! Thanks for watching!
I had a student pilots license some years ago. But I also had a wife who decided the money would be better spent on her.
I’ve piloted on (4) occasions the Piper Archer II. I sat in the co-pilot seat of a 12 passenger multi engine turbo prop craft… I absolutely love flying! But was restricted by marriages
I've worked with a lot of students who had to wait until the kids were out of college before they could afford the time and money to fly. I get it.
Sorry - I got lost somehow in regards to the difference between the powered parachute and the other vehicle. I have watched Evolution Trikes on UA-cam, but the controls appear to be contra intuitive for someone like me who has a Private SEL license. I don't know enough about powered parachutes to understand how those controls work. It appears that one steers with the feet, but what controls altitude? (Engine speed perhaps?). Thanks...
Evo Trikes are great! But your intuition is right, it takes a little bit of relearning for a lot of airplane pilots. It isn't impossible to do, it just has to be worked through.
Yes, you steer either with either the feet or by hand, depending on the model. Climb is just excess power, like an airplane. Not a lot of pitch control, though. But there is some.
i live in northern ontario and would love to fly over some of the many lakes we have.i wonder could i get a pontoon vehicle too land in the water .thankyou for the inspirational video's.
I think that the "B-roll" is the best part of these videos!
Northern Ontario would be awesome to fly!
Very interesting comparison. There’s a new generation of lightweight trike 4-strokes such as the Aero1000 from Helvenco. Much lighter and more powerful than Generacs.
Thanks for the tip on the Aero1000! That does look like a pretty nice engine. The Generacs are great engines, but they are purpose-built for long use in generators, which makes them heavier.
Great video. My Buckeye dream machine must be a powered paraglider trike because it has a two-stroke engine and not the 912 4-stroke
😀 Hi Dale! The Buckeye is a great powered parachute!
buckeye is a PPC, my single place had a 503 Rotax 2 stroke with 55HP not a 4 stroke, much lighter and tons of power
Hi Roy; this was a good video explaining important PPC vs PPG distinctions. I've been involved in both PPC/PPG as a pilot, instructor and OEM, and I agree that either route is a fantastic aviation entry point. For many (myself included), powered-para flying was my aviation entry point, but also satisfying enough tick all the boxes of my aviation asperations.
I do have a couple observations to make here..First I generally think it's unwise to fly Powered-Para recreationally with a passenger. There's just enough risk in the sport of which passengers cannot be fully informed. Powered para risk are certainly low enough for the passionate owner/pilot, but too high for a recreational passenger. Secondly..I'm somewhat dismayed by the general lack of powered para innovation. Innovations in gear and regulatory/training trends have drastically impacted ppc/ppg entry affordability.
Hi Terry! The risk in flying powered parachutes can be mitigated the same way risk is addressed in other kinds of flying, or for that matter, any other activity. Human error is The biggest factor in aviation accidents in nearly all aircraft. Teaching judgement is a challenge, but it is part of a good training program.
Meanwhile, I share your desire for more innovation in the sport. I admire your work and always enjoy hearing about your latest ideas!
It would be good if the video showed at the beginning a few pictures comparing the various types (powered parachute vs powered trike vs .... Without pictures it was initially quite confusing. But thanks for the video !
Very helpful video as I explore my options for learning to fly. I'm leaning toward a trike that could carry 2 people. Do you have, or are you aware of any references, that compare powered parachutes to weight shift control aircraft (that look like powered hang gliders)?
Maybe you should add "in the US" in the title in the future. Different rules in different countries, mate. This is YT. The whole world can watch and US isn't the only country (even if some of you think so) in the world. Stay safe.
Good suggestion!
Where are you located for training? This was a very informative video
Thank you! I train in Dunnellon, Florida and Greenville, Illinois.
Thanks again for a great video Roy, but I gotta ask, what kind of camera do you use and how are you able to easily move the selfie stick around to capture different angles so smoothly?
Hi Baba! I used a Insta360 OneR for that video. It was on a short selfie stick and I just moved it around. I may have to try that style again some time.
This all hurts my head.
The Government never should have poked their nose into PPC's. We did just fine without them for decades.
If you live in a rural area, just get a machine, get some good instruction...and fly!
Or conversely, spend your life filling out forms, playing constantly changing regulation games and rules, trying to comply.
Enjoy paying certified aircraft mechanics to change your spark-plug.
I was not a fan of the sport pilot rules and voiced my opinion to the FAA at the time the rule was being drafted. They told me that they "did not concur" with the problems I saw with the rule. Now it is what it is.
Very informative and well done video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
people fly ppg with passengers all the time. and i sometimes take off with a light downwind with my ppg trike no problem. So not all is true what you say. never had a collapse with my ppg trike either (since 2006). There is simply to much pressure in the wing. especially with a reflex wing it is almost impossible to collapse even if you try.
Just because something is possible, doesn't make it good practice or legal.
Granted, collapses are far more possible in a footlaunch than in any trike because of the increased weight of the trike itself.
Thank you for very informative video. Based on the differences you mention about the wings / chutes, is it safe to conclude that PPC is safer then?
Both aircraft are safe. It really depends on the specific designs you are comparing.
If I hold a PPL already does that license provide me privileges wuth any of these?
Unfortunately, no. You still need training and a sign-off.
Interested in "meadow hopping" camping on cross country flights....are powered parachutes capable of short runs on roads for refuel, what restrictions on flying after dark... I know already, but please describe the FAA reg, 30 min prior to sundown?
Hi John! There is no problem with flying 30 minutes before sundown. The issue is for the 30 minutes AFTER sundown. You need a strobe if you are flying an ultralight and position lights if you are flying an N-number powered parachute.
I hope this helps!
Great video thanks for the content very interesting ...
Thanks so much for watching and the comment!
Is that airport in greenville illinois? I stumbled across this video trying to get more information on flying and noticed that airport looked very familiar lol my father used to fly his trike out there probably 15 years ago.
Hi Dustin! It is one and the same! I remember your dad flying here.I think he had an old Pegasus trike.
What are the requirements if you already have a private pilots license? Do you also need a medical?
That's a short question with a long answer! Luckily, I have a web page for that!
www.easyflight.com/privatepilotgeneral.html
Very informative, thanks for sharing. You would like to add some $ figures too to the price perspective, give a ball park idea on what I am going to get into short term and long term. I would like to know some storage and transportation differences for both the type of equipment.
That is a great idea. I'm reading comments partly to see what people want me to produce in the future!
VERY INFORMATIVE THANKS
Hi William! I appreciate the feedback!
Which is safer? Do they both collapse?
I have been footlaunching for 3 years and now with my spine injury I have to switch over to a trike, how hard are the landings on a ppg trike?
Landings depend on the skill of the pilot. You want to be very careful about what kind of seat and suspension your potential trike has. The right equipment will help protect you.
Powered parachute 27 years !
Sweet!
Roy...how I ve found you: intend fly a 103 aerolite but to begin better a trike glider...here is THE POINT...both collapse...think easily...so I understand need to safe...Beginner I thought I fly with my back parachute...but think is almost impossible get an open and safe parachute from a collapsed in a stoll to end of the story lol...Roy congatullations cause powered parachute says we can fly safe even in stoll and collapsed 103 aerolite ultra light with reserve rocket parachute ...Think I need a power parachute first and thats the way to ready for take off a parapent or pwer parapent or a aerolite 103 ultra light ...think a Power parachute is safe as walk around or fly a glider...can you bring a word about how scape out of a severe stoll not be stoped whithout a reserve launched parachute as in parapent collases? Congratullations for Easy Fligt lessons...
we got this Willian Scott v...channel is about 103 aerolite ultra light flights...take a look to answer my requests...Thanks!!!
Jesus bless you!
Valiant effort, but at least 10 minutes into an 18-minute video, I still didn't know the difference between a PP and PPT, despite that being the title of the video (and enough past experience with flying things to understand the basics). I liked the idea of the flight video in the background while you talked, but it would have been far more effective and instructive to show photos of the things you were describing. At the point that I quit watching, I was flooded with many details, and still didn't have the overall picture.
Thanks for watching as much as you did! I'm trying to get better.
How far can they go, like from N.Y. to new Mexico....etc
The model I fly in the video is able to stay up for 3 hours. That's about a hundred miles before you take the wind into account. But people rarely do trips like that.
Hi, great video! There are simpler 1-seater ppG trikes, would those work vs. the larger ones for ppC I see in videos?
The PPG trikes would much cheaper and take much less room
The larger powered parachutes are generally two-seat machines anymore. The lighter, ultralight versions are pilot only. And yes, the PPG trikes are generally less expensive and take up less room!
Is there a list that someone could look up, if they are looking for a PPC CFI, So they can get a sports license certificate?
There is. I don't know how up-to-date it is, but it does show some instructors in Minnesota.
www.eaa.org/eaa/aviation-interests/light-sport-aircraft/light-sport-aircraft-instruction/find-a-flight-instructor
Hello Roy, your video was very informative. I am 68 years old and always wanted to fly but never had the opportunity to do so. I am in good mental and physical shape. My concerns are cost of training and licensing. I am on a fixed income and cost is a big factor to me. I live with on eastern long island and do not know of or have seen anyone flying a powered parachute on long island. Can you enlighten me on some of these questions? Thank you again. Tom
Thanks, Thomas!
I remember a number of years ago there used to be a dealer for powered parachutes on Long Island. I don't know anything about New York, but that seemed amazing to me! I haven't heard from Dom for awhile, though.
If you would like to book a consultation with me to discuss training, you can do so at @t
Thanks again!
A ton of your areas airspace is restricted to us. NJ here
@@roybeisswenger3198 I am thinking of buying a 2000 Destiny P.P.. I had a 98 Buckeye 2 sweater years ago and loved it... Now I have a chance to get this one which only has 105 hrs on it... How much does it cost to get a sport license so I can legally fly this machine??? I am in Allegan Michigan... Do you know of any instructors in this area that are left to give training... I would be flying out of a private airstrip in the country and not any live airport's...
Thank you in advance...
Bill
Ppc liscense requires n number? How much is that a year? If plane does not have n number, it cant get 1?
Hi Nick! It's more the other way around. In order to fly an aircraft with an N-number, you need at least a sport pilot rating. The question about how a plane gets an N-number is a big one. I need to devote an entire video to the question!
Very informative
Thank you so much!
Great presentation. Very informative. Thanks! Subscribed!!!
Thank you for the feedback and the subscription!
Both mean a lot to me!
Hi! I just came to this video for the first time…. I have some “base establishment” questions for you. How can I email you or call you if you live in USA / CANADA as I can call both for free of charge. Alton
You can book an appointment at www.easyflight.com/talk.html. The response email will give you the email address and we can coordinate from there. Looking forward to chatting!
How much for the rating?
Already typed in 5 jets,helicopter,PPG
103 trike.looking for add on rating
Good luck working with Jim!
Hi Iam 78 and love being in the sky my nephew has taken me up he has the two seater can i learn to fly on that one i reall want to operate one likw i said i love being in the sky. thanks
Good, informative video..
I'm considering buying an older model Buckye 103.
Had flight training years ago and have flown ultralights but never one of these.
I'm confident that flying will be easy and intuitive for me but I have never rigged one before.
Is there a video available that covers that.
I plan on flying the wing with a harness on the ground to get a feel for things first.
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It's always a good idea to seek out an instructor to go over things with you.
There are things he can look over on the Buckeye and the wing, as well as launching and flying techniques that can be covered. In fact, sometimes wings are rigged improperly by people following instructions from others online. That kind of thing is best gone over in person.
I don't personally know of any rigging videos, although I may put one together someday. (And yes, I understand that won't help your immediate needs!)
Perhaps someone else visiting the channel can help you out.
@@EasyFlight Infinity Powered Parachutes has a very good rigging video, a series.
Good to know!
8:30 i just realized how roomy that model out of 16 machines mine have all been very small with the backseat just crouded
I like the roomy back seat in the one I fly since I spend a lot of time in it as a flight instructor!
Thanks.
You're welcome!
Living in oklahoma city area and would like more information would like to be a instructor but paralyzed
trikes are better. you actually have a place to sit and somewhere to put avionics equipment. anyone foot launching is pure crazy
Well, I certainly like trikes. But footlaunch guys have a lot of fun, too.
No. They're both PPG. With a trike, or without. The design of a PC is fundamentally different to that of a PG, and the difference between a trike PG and a harness PG is ... basically none. If the regs are wrong, they're wrong.
You mean the difference is basically none... except that one has wheels and a cart and the other doesn't have those major components.
That seems like a pretty large difference to me. 😀
An interesting video but you seem to be informed about Flying Powered Paramotor Trikes. There are at least two companies producing new, powerful 4 cycle engines for trikes. Fresh Breeze and Blackhawk are the two I am speaking of. Most of the Powered Parachute Trikes have an "A-Line Assist" line which connects to the "A" Riser of the Paraglider which brings the paraglider up once you start moving forward. The paraglider comes off the ground very easily and with no effort from the pilot. Frank
Hi Frank! Good point. A-Line Assist has been around for awhile and is becoming more popular on lighter trikes.
The Fresh Breeze Xcitor is a cool machine, but is actually more of a powered parachute than a Paramotor trike. The ones flying in the US are mostly N-numbered.
Get a foot launchable paraglide motor then build a trike attachment for it. Then you can foot launch or roll launch So you have both options and you don’t need a pilots license...yet. If these worlds best instructors keep being jerks and chase owls and hurt kids the microscope is on our sport and that’s bad. Thanks.
There are all kinds of great options out there!
And yes, the privilege of flying is incredible and at risk every time someone flies irresponsibly.