Greater Autonomy for Separatists Might Signal War's End: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 81)

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2014
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    On September 16, Ukraine passed a controversial law under an unusual secret voting procedure that granted greater autonomy to the separatist regions in eastern Ukraine, as well as amnesty for most of the pro-Russia forces in the region. This is a significant development in the conflict, and might signal an end to the war that has ravaged the country for months.
    VICE News spoke to Donetsk Governor Taruta Deems on his private jet as the legislation was passed. We also interviewed members of the Azov Battalion at their base right outside the coastal town of Mariupol.
    War in Peace: Divided East Ukraine Braces As Ceasefire Crumbles: bit.ly/1xzUpnc
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  • @michaelcurrier4492
    @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому +215

    "They don't want him to look like an oligarch, but he kind of is."
    I love that. That is an absolutely hilarious amount of realism.

    • @michaelcurrier4492
      @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому +10

      SirVixIsVexed Haha. No.
      I'm entertained because it is a fact, because he kind of is an oligarch and he didn't want that to be shown.

    • @michaelcurrier4492
      @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому +19

      SirVixIsVexed 2.7 billion in the bank says oligarch to me. Being a rich man appointed to rule by a rich man says oligarch to me. Fuck off with your easy generalizations, please, I'm dealing in facts.
      He is an oligarch, I knew he was already, I thought it was a hilarious situation that he was in.
      Do you really just get off on being high and mighty?

    • @michaelcurrier4492
      @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому +5

      SirVixIsVexed Is it required that during his on the spot journalism about the secret passage of legislation mean to end this war he educate you about a man who you should already know something about?
      This is a dispatch from Ukraine, for fuck's sake, not a report on who this man is. He is an oligarch, they called him an oligarch, YOU not knowing anything about him is on YOU, but Vice wasn't trying to inform you about him and neither was I.
      Neither of us, me or vice, lied about him, and both of us were correct to think that the luxury this man enjoys is indicative of his status as Oligarch. Most governors don't own their private jet and put appetizers like that out for reporters. This man is 112 times wealthier than Angela Merkel and Barack Obama combined.
      Under no circumstances is it incorrect to refer to him as an Oligarch or say that his displayed affluence is indicative of the behavior of an Oligarch. There is no burden to provide background information on the man's wealth or to prove he is an Oligarch every time it's mentioned that he is one, because that isn't a story. That's a fact you can look up in 30 seconds and one you should already know. One that everybody with an interest in this shit should already know.
      The story he reported at that moment was that an Oligarch was trying to stop him from showing how much of an Oligarch he is. He wouldn't have been wrong to say "He doesn't want us filming because he's a massive Oligarch but he'd prefer it if we didn't show just how incredibly rich this rich motherfucker really is. I bet this is the worst private plane in his collection. Oh, what a cunt." And he definitely didn't need to tell you that he has 2.7 billion in the bank.

    • @michaelcurrier4492
      @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому +6

      SirVixIsVexed You don't know what the Oligarchs in that region are, I realize this now.
      These are people who used the fact that the former USSR was privatized all at once in order to amass inordinate amounts of wealth. They were able to get money together when everything went on sale at once, and as a result only a few men own almost everything in the former USSR.
      Okay, now onto your points.
      1. Journalism isn't a wikipedia page, it's reporting what's happening as you see it. The story here wasn't that this man is an Oligarch. That's just a fact. If he was here to explain the situation in the Ukraine to you, he might have brought that up. But he's here to report on breaking developments, isn't he?
      Yes, yes he is.
      2. That man spends hundreds of dollars on the food there. Just because you could make something that looks like it for 20 bucks, doesn't mean a billionaire is. He's buying expensive booze, expensive cheese, expensive bread. It's a thousand times more likely that the one bite he took was worth 25 dollars.
      3. Oligarch is a fairly technical term when it comes to that region, I've explained this to you in the beginning. It's a fact that he is one. Nobody needs to report that fact, because it's already out there plain as day.
      4. What he was trying to tell us was that an oligarch was downplaying that aspect of who he was for political purposes. He wasn't there to tell us about the oligarch's history or why he is an oligarch. He wasn't even there to report on him at all, but he saw a chance to say something true that someone wanted to hide and he took it. That's good journalism.
      His obligation was to report what he saw, and what he saw he reported. I enjoyed seeing him enjoy filming that plane when he was wasn't supposed to, because that's a sign of a good journalist.
      5. More about you not knowing what a Ukrainian Oligarch is.
      6. Fuck off. You came here to me to start this. You stuck your ignorant nose into my harmless comment and claimed superiority. I said I enjoyed an amusing thing, you bitched about how people believe amusing things just because they're amusing.
      That's rude, an obvious reference to what I said, and I'm not about to take that from someone who has consistently shown their ignorance and reliance on assumptions.
      Fuck. Off.

    • @michaelcurrier4492
      @michaelcurrier4492 9 років тому

      SirVixIsVexed You still think these people are living off of public funds? Are you kidding me?
      Your first comment was to basically call me uninformed and fickle. Then you vomited stupid at me. You still haven't stopped. You're arguing something that is irrelevant. Oligarchs are not now and have never been known for stealing money. They're normal rich people, just like you and me.
      The word has come into common usage because it's used to refer to people who bought all the newly privatized assets of the former USSR upon its dissolution.
      Wikipedia will tell you this. It couldn't take more than five minutes to learn on your own everything you need to know about the situation.
      I didn't seek out a feeling of superiority, I just won't stand for your self-righteous ignorance. I won't be called a fool by some one with no idea what they're talking about.
      Again, fuck off.

  • @Leonardo-or1ll
    @Leonardo-or1ll 9 років тому +59

    Simon was like a kid in a candy store in that plane.

  • @zamardii12
    @zamardii12 4 роки тому +31

    "They don't want the governor looking like a oligarch, but he kinda is." Nice Simon... lol

  • @Cblount21
    @Cblount21 9 років тому +16

    Never trust a politician doesn't matter what side they are on!

    • @yugine1000
      @yugine1000 9 років тому

      I also think so. At first it seemed that he's right. Then that he's wrong. And then I bethought what a bullshit all politicians were.

  • @stg5ive
    @stg5ive 9 років тому +13

    When you said private plane, I thought it was going to be a little Cessna

    • @bluemountaindrivepae
      @bluemountaindrivepae 4 роки тому +1

      Cessna makes small twin engine jets like the Cessna Citation.

  • @h.h.baumann1025
    @h.h.baumann1025 Рік тому +23

    The ukrainian soldier interviewed at the end has it right. Look where we are now in 2022 with the russian invasion. Porochenko betrayed the ukrainian fighters in Donbas by intentionally not giving them the required tanks, weapons, & supplies. He then bend his knee to Putin with the peace plan that gave more autonomy to DNR & LNR with russian military troops in real control. Thank you Simon & Henry & all others for this incredible & illuminating investigation of the real start of the war.

    • @krevetka9744
      @krevetka9744 Рік тому +4

      I think the only correct line was "we needed to convince the people". The soldier was talking about diplomacy, about uniting ALL ukrainians. Including russian-speaking ukrainians. Gradually raise patriotism and belief in Ukraine. But instead they used nazis as the only warriors willing to harm their own people.

    • @bhaashatepe5234
      @bhaashatepe5234 Рік тому +3

      @@krevetka9744 and they want to forget about what they did to those Russian speaking people in Odessa?

    • @krevetka9744
      @krevetka9744 Рік тому +2

      @@bhaashatepe5234 No no, I mean even before the Odessa massacre. Like you know, when people were calling Donbas "separatists" but not yet "terrorists". They just needed to wait until December elections (which were officially agreed upon after shortening Yanukovitch' term) and we'd have another democratically-elected president. But that would be a whole another story. After all, nobody forced Kyiv to send tanks on their own people back then.
      Edit: now that I think about it, actually Ukraine was about to get a 17$ billion loan from The International Monetary Fund right before attacking Donbass for the first time. It's when the government was temporary (Or better say ILLEGAL). Pretty sure it made part in influencing decisions.

    • @CosmicValkyrie
      @CosmicValkyrie 2 місяці тому

      Well, it doesn't matter anymore now. Russia is unstoppable.

  • @jureparmac9171
    @jureparmac9171 2 роки тому +30

    Watching this 7 years later while Russia is amassing tanks close to Ukranian border and thinking how the AZOV guy was right with his predicament! Slava Ukrainu!

    • @AmandainGeorgia
      @AmandainGeorgia 2 роки тому

      @Tony Soprano oh really? And now?

    • @enemysweet2414
      @enemysweet2414 2 роки тому +7

      No glory for neo nazis

    • @rain8184
      @rain8184 2 роки тому +2

      Very interesting to watch…. considering the current events

    • @karthikkr93
      @karthikkr93 Рік тому

      @Military Views How about now?

    • @CaneFan423
      @CaneFan423 Рік тому +3

      @@enemysweet2414 Wagner

  • @nikolayew
    @nikolayew 2 роки тому +17

    Looking back now at the interview with the AZOV soldiers, it seems like they were absolutely right.

  • @elihu217qd5150
    @elihu217qd5150 9 років тому +6

    Nice looking wood stock at 7:00

  • @Yutani_Crayven
    @Yutani_Crayven 9 років тому +116

    Putin bots, Putin bots everywhere...

    • @megachavalote
      @megachavalote 9 років тому +4

      Don't be afraid, please proceed to the safe segment of youtube. You are not ready yet for the cruel world of internet

    • @c.cassidy3450
      @c.cassidy3450 9 років тому +16

      planc7on Really? Is that why pro-russians almost never take the blame for themselves? Also always blaming the West for rediculous things? Also listening to a state-run media source with one of the worst rankings for biased journalism (RT)? riiiiiiight.....

    • @megachavalote
      @megachavalote 9 років тому

      MsTbsd Don't rely on others.When you finish with Valtsman you should start with Edelstein immediately. That's your job

    • @planc7on
      @planc7on 9 років тому +1

      Leonardo Cardosi it's because all western media is doing is representing russians as a "bad guys" in this conflict.
      ofcause russians want to defend themselves from that, it's a natural human reaction
      and yes - there is a lot of propaganda in Russia; but not everything in our media is propaganda - a lot of information in your media is propaganda and lies too...
      and to add to this, most of your journalist are blatenely incompetent, even when they honestly want to tell truth. they just don't understand problems of this region. don't see a hate for all russians from ukranian neo-nazis
      not all western ukranians are nazis, but belive me, there are a lot of them; "Azov" batalion is pretty much nazis with guns given by government)
      but you dont belive it, right? even with this batalion members wearing swastikas, having "aryan nation" symbol as batalion symbol and telling in inteviews that in some way they agree with Hitler?
      and I saw it here, at Vice's channel, and in BBC news as well. or Vice and BBS is russian propaganda too?

    • @Ryu3sT1
      @Ryu3sT1 9 років тому +1

      there is a facts about rape, pedophelia crime from ukraine national guard AZOV in occupied Kramatorsk. They are in psychedelic mind control and drugs, so much hate russians and Putin for what? what Putin acctually and russian did? Did they killed by GRAD Kiev residents? Scotland was able to vote, why east Ukraine cannot?

  • @extremistcontent1337
    @extremistcontent1337 9 років тому +11

    Theres a Nazi black sun symbol in that painting on the gate at 4:05

  • @SamsTube716
    @SamsTube716 9 років тому +46

    Kremlin Krazies in 3...2...1....

    • @yugine1000
      @yugine1000 9 років тому +1

      If you believe someone is crazy you must consider that this someone has same thoughts about you. Think of it.

  • @DopeFiend
    @DopeFiend 9 років тому +2

    Waiting for Dispatch 82

  • @oicub2
    @oicub2 9 років тому +11

    poor Ukraine, invaded on so many fronts she forgets who her brothers are.

    • @dovevai2002
      @dovevai2002 9 років тому +9

      just a question - who?

    • @oicub2
      @oicub2 9 років тому +1

      Miles Caeli that's a very good question. maybe we should ask why at the same time?

    • @dovevai2002
      @dovevai2002 9 років тому +5

      oicub2 well, that would me my question, do you have an answer?

    • @dinagrovl4362
      @dinagrovl4362 9 років тому +1

      SirVixIsVexed how about russia? ---- Nato, Germany, Japan, France, Turkey.......

    • @oicub2
      @oicub2 9 років тому +1

      SirVixIsVexed yes. NATO the IMF and the EU

  • @HiAdrian
    @HiAdrian 9 років тому

    0:13 notice how the image changes brightness (grading) as soon as the text diappears? I've seen this all over the place on UA-cam since a few weeks. Did some major video editing software get a new feature that the users can't handle, or is this a new fad?

  • @peaou
    @peaou 9 років тому

    I guess it's a bit to late to ask for that, but will there be updates in this channel as 'to be continued' suggests? or this video is a last one that vice did for a subject? because, as I hear, there's still some clashes going on in the airport of Donjeck. that could be an interesting report.

  • @F145h1
    @F145h1 9 років тому +28

    No wonder the people of Donetsk support the rebels because the Governor wasted all the money on himself!! Look at his Airplane people are struggling to find food and here he is eating his expensive meals and snacks in his Private jet! Meanwhile Russia is sending an Humanitarian aid convoy to E.Ukraine to give their support to the Local!! No wonder Kiev is losing!!

    • @carlh9120
      @carlh9120 9 років тому +25

      Humanitarian aid? Since when did weapons, ammo and tanks become humanitarian aid?

    • @F145h1
      @F145h1 9 років тому +13

      Vitus Horsted The countless number of white Trucks which provided fuel, food, clothes and Medicine to the locals!! Let me guess you heard this from Kiev that the Russians were supplying arms!!

    • @urugvaeczhir4521
      @urugvaeczhir4521 9 років тому +7

      Vitus Horsted you do not understand what it was about, moron )))

    • @pstockmaster
      @pstockmaster 9 років тому

      SirVixIsVexed i lol´d when i read "ukraine, georgia" dude you should really do some history readings bout leaders of SU before you post your bs

    • @DanielDaniel393
      @DanielDaniel393 9 років тому

      he was never in power before. he was a businessman.

  • @scarletred8888
    @scarletred8888 2 роки тому +9

    The last guy who commented - his opinion was eerily accurate.

    • @rain8184
      @rain8184 2 роки тому +3

      I was thinking exactly the same thing and I was looking for a comment such as yours. Crazy stuff.

    • @scarletred8888
      @scarletred8888 2 роки тому

      ​@@rain8184 Yes, its depressing to think the outcome was so predictable given the usual approach taken by humans- lets smash everything and kill everyone.I wonder could the current situation have been avoided had Ukraine managed this better back in 2014.

  • @RealBulldust
    @RealBulldust 9 років тому +24

    how can there be amnesty for war criminals and human rights violators ?

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 9 років тому +8

      Right sector and nat guard get away with all their crimes!

    • @mryodak
      @mryodak 9 років тому +2

      Amnesty works only on pure idea-supporting separatists, but killers and thievs still are guilty by the law standarts.

    • @chesterfinecat7588
      @chesterfinecat7588 9 років тому +2

      The bigger the crime the greater the forgiveness. Murder one person, serve a life term, murder thousands and you're a hero of the homeland. The richest Nazi industrialists were recruited to US high society and took over corporate USA. You are probably in awe of the ones in your area.

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 9 років тому +1

      ***** yes we know, maidan.

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 9 років тому +1

      ***** that was Jarosh!

  • @mastert4199
    @mastert4199 9 років тому

    Good series, hope to see more soon.

  • @putriddespot116
    @putriddespot116 9 років тому +30

    Scotland just voted for a referendum fairly, legally, and democratically. And in Crimea, there was hardly anytime to setup a proper referendum. There was no legitimate leadership holding the referendum. Russian had to use green men to occupy and guard during the referendum. There was no option on the ballot to stay with Ukraine. And I can keep going... Hmm, I wonder why the Brits didn't do the same thing? My respect goes to the Scottish people for showing the world what true democracy is, unlike what happened in Crimea...

    • @CeoLogJM
      @CeoLogJM 9 років тому +7

      Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like Russians and Englishmen, or Russians and Japanese, or Russians and other Russians.
      Damn Russians, They ruined Russia!

    • @c.cassidy3450
      @c.cassidy3450 9 років тому +14

      I am so sick of Pro-Russians comparing their fake ass Crimean referendum to Scotland. It is NOT comparable. You said it perfectly.

    • @HeilLoki
      @HeilLoki 9 років тому +4

      Titus X As insane as Putin is, he knew very well, that 60 % wanted to stay as an Free Republic within Ukraine. The Referendum in Scotland took YEARS to set up properly... Crimea just a few weeks.

    • @JohnDoe_69_420
      @JohnDoe_69_420 9 років тому

      And why wasn't there anytime to setup a proper referendum in Crimea, I wonder?
      Right, it's because the junta who were in charge then, I mean Turtjynov and Jatsenjuk, wouldn't allow to hold it. Try to guess why wouldn't they.
      Why did Russians came there? To help the civilians to defend the referendum from possible Ukranian agression. As you see, they had managed pretty well, and no single soul was killed.

    • @CeoLogJM
      @CeoLogJM 9 років тому +4

      Владимир Савченко What JUNTA?
      What the hell happened in Crimea that made this referendum happen?
      Did Ukranians start mass murdering Russians?

  • @glamrocker5492
    @glamrocker5492 2 роки тому +3

    6.46 How prophetic this soldier spoke

  • @IThink2b
    @IThink2b 9 років тому

    Like to know how things are going now that the fighting is withering down, I'd like to see how negotiation are playing out and see how peace is made. Thank for all the great reporting and looking forward to dispatch 82. Thanks!!!

  • @TheyForcedMyHandLE
    @TheyForcedMyHandLE 9 років тому +1

    Are there any new dispatches? 82?

  • @Matatilda
    @Matatilda 9 років тому +19

    Спасибо, Симон, настоящий профессиональный журнализм, всестороннее непредвзятое освещение событий. С удовольствием смотрю твои репортажи. Огромное спасибо за твою опасную, но очень ценную работу.

    • @Matatilda
      @Matatilda 9 років тому

      Hotfixable С чего ты решило, что я шучу, растение?

    • @Matatilda
      @Matatilda 9 років тому +1

      Hotfixable Не хочу тебя расстраивать, но у тебя очень деформированное представление о журналистике в частности и об устройстве этого мира в целом.

    • @Hotfixable
      @Hotfixable 9 років тому

      Что из сказанного мной не верно? Представление о мире? О как заговорил. А ты случаем не либераст?

    • @Matatilda
      @Matatilda 9 років тому +3

      Hotfixable Даже боюсь представить, что ты вкладываешь в это понятие. Если ты имеешь ввиду либерализм, то мне было бы любопытно увидеть человека, всерьёз выступающего за ограничение собственных прав и свобод. Для меня он либо полный идиот, либо по натуре паталогический раб, не представляющий, что делать со своей свободой и предпочитающий прильнуть к сапогу хозяина и выполнять его поручения за подачки.
      То есть раб, выступающий за укрепление собственных оков.

    • @Matatilda
      @Matatilda 9 років тому +1

      Hotfixable "Единая линия пропаганды" возможна в диктаторских государствах, таких как Сев.Корея и как Россия, к сожалению, где нет свободной прессы.
      Надеюсь, тебе хоть деньги за это платят.
      Другого объяснения для написания подобной ереси у меня нет.

  • @primafacia24
    @primafacia24 9 років тому +3

    I love VICE news, you guys are doing it right. Look at how long they let those interviewed talk without interruption. VICE is an intelligent and well coordinated news organization.

  • @traviseanmyers
    @traviseanmyers 9 років тому

    When will more dispatch videos be release? @vicenews

  • @charleshogg5459
    @charleshogg5459 9 років тому

    Why have there been no updates for two weeks?

  • @notbadsince97
    @notbadsince97 9 років тому +23

    Why is everyone be so dramatic, the separatists want full autonomy ie being a country, and the bill will only first 3 years, and i highly doubt the sepratist would agree to the bill anyway. The fighting will start again i promise you, WW1 took a month to start (not saying a world war will start but it takes some time, my guess a week or 2 at most).

    • @i-am-art
      @i-am-art 9 років тому +1

      I hope you do realize that ww2 already happened in the past, and was the most massive war on the planet?

    • @notbadsince97
      @notbadsince97 9 років тому

      Art Tito just making a point, the way history is taught it seems like WW1 happened in a week, where it actually took about of a month to fully start.

    • @nordsab1
      @nordsab1 9 років тому

      because a lot rich people are going loss a lot money if east Ukraine gains state hood. So that is why everybody is so dramatic

    • @notbadsince97
      @notbadsince97 9 років тому

      nordsab1 and a lot of rich ppl are going to lose money if it doesn't become a state in Russia

    • @nordsab1
      @nordsab1 9 років тому

      iJutsu
      Problem is the people down there down want be part of Keiv's Ukraine. Can't blame them 23 years and only taking steps back not forward.
      Didn't they promise you EU in 2004?

  • @RenGoEDITSWAG
    @RenGoEDITSWAG 9 років тому +4

    "They don't want the governor to look like an oligarch, which he kinda is." - Simon Ostrovsky

  • @kabaret3
    @kabaret3 9 років тому

    where is Dispatch 80? :)

  • @charlesaferg
    @charlesaferg 9 років тому

    Why do I keep receiving "just uploaded" notifications for old videos..?

  • @VICENews
    @VICENews  9 років тому +20

    Vice News went on the Governor of Donetsk's private jet and later spoke with him about a new law that gives the separatists autonomy.
    More on the conflict in Ukraine here: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine

    • @hexadecimal5236
      @hexadecimal5236 9 років тому +19

      The governor of Donetsk has absolutely no credibility when he jet sets around in a private plane while people in his region live in what is almost third world conditions. There may be Russian governors who are just as bad I don't know...I don't see that Ukraine really had a choice but to treaty with Russia.

    • @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
      @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls 9 років тому +5

      Rose BPOS And the DPR will change this?

    • @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
      @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls 9 років тому +10

      Rose BPOS Putin spent 50 billion dollars on the Sochi Olympics and the town was still infested with stray dogs. Do you get my point?

    • @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
      @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls 9 років тому +4

      brendon albrecht Hotels with no drinking water, etc.

    • @Frololoo
      @Frololoo 9 років тому +1

      russian rly love dogs and don't like channel chemistry ;)

  • @psykat9816
    @psykat9816 9 років тому +3

    why hasnt there been another russian roulette for over 2 weeks now?

  • @miles2057
    @miles2057 9 років тому +1

    Summer has come to an end and fall is here. Fighting season will soon be over for this year. I hope and pray, anyway.

  • @Ozymandias1
    @Ozymandias1 9 років тому

    What happened to Dispatch 80?

  • @scriptsz
    @scriptsz 9 років тому +36

    Russian bots, go home

  • @ArchieWilsonVocalist
    @ArchieWilsonVocalist 9 років тому +16

    STOP TAKING FOREVER TO PUT THESE VIDEOS OUT! ARGGGGH!

  • @OppaiAI
    @OppaiAI 9 років тому +2

    WTF, somehow it sounds that VICE wants the fights to continue. I dont think that this is the way how journalism should be.

  • @TheRnDMedia
    @TheRnDMedia 9 років тому

    Where is dispatch 80?

  • @pimpinspartan
    @pimpinspartan 9 років тому +8

    6:32 Mustafa detected

  • @Wul-Lop
    @Wul-Lop 9 років тому +10

    Hope our best for Russia, Ukraine, Europe & all over the world. May peace, wealth, water & health come to Russia, Ukraine, Europe & all over the world. Cheers!

  • @kraftdinner4202
    @kraftdinner4202 9 років тому +1

    Dispatch 81, holy shit.

  • @mardasman428
    @mardasman428 9 років тому +12

    Private jet, expensive police escort, many carriers and helpers... The Maidan revolution was all about stopping corruption, but due to the fact, that now we talk about Russia, conflict and seperatism, corruption is no longer an issue there and an oligarch is the new president of Ukraine (just like Timoshenko, Janukovich or Putin are). I wonder, which kind of oligarch will become the next prime minister of ukraine?

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 9 років тому +2

      Putin is not an oligarch...the powerful oligarchs where exiled or imprisoned or assassinated in russia!
      Putin is part of the sloviki(Powerful men/woman) they might seem like oligrachs but they are all for the most part KGB/FSB(former or not it doesn't matter) ex police or army!
      They are all loyal to putin and to Russia!
      After putin came to power he Took down the bigger oligrachs and banned oligarchs from politics!

    • @Steve2of3
      @Steve2of3 9 років тому

      thats everyone in politics everywhere..its the same shit wherever you go.. always lavish settings.. and always saying they are for the people

    • @power3244
      @power3244 9 років тому +1

      ***** How deranged from truth are you? Ever since he became to power he has been grabbing all kinds of assets and getting stakes in gas companies etc. He is known to have at least 80 billion, but think about it how much he has hidden away. You're right Putin is not an oligach, he's a thief and a killer.

    • @planc7on
      @planc7on 9 років тому

      power3244 what you're talking about is not prooved. all Putin's actives juridically doesn't belong to him. maybe only unofficially, though his friendships with some of the most rich people in Russia - like Timchenko etc.
      so it's all controversial to say the least.
      nobody knows all the truth except Putin himself and his friends.

    • @checkmate9507
      @checkmate9507 9 років тому

      ***** YOU MEAN CUT THROAT HE MURDERED THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES IM SURE BECAUSE THATS HOW RUSSIAN RACKETS WORKS

  • @eddiecheang1513
    @eddiecheang1513 9 років тому +4

    Nato led by the US expanded eastward toward the Russian border, thus threatening the security of Russia. Why don't the West be less expansionist and more peaceful?
    What if Russia were to expand her military forces in a country at the doorstep of the US, say, in Cuba?

    • @shakiraizbangin
      @shakiraizbangin 9 років тому +1

      Well maybe if Russia didn't fund and support conflicts in post soviet nations there would be no need for wanting to join nato. Why did Russia fund the Abkhazian and South Ossetian war during the early 90's? Why did Russia arm both Armenia and Azerbaijan during the Nagarno Karabakh conflict? Why because these countries were once there colony and they have no wish of letting them go. So before you're so quick to judge countries like Ukraine, realize why they're so quick to get away from Russia.

    • @eddiecheang1513
      @eddiecheang1513 9 років тому

      *****
      Every army is termed "defensive pact", but everybody knows that these pacts can be easily changed to "offensive pact" at a snap of fingers.

    • @eddiecheang1513
      @eddiecheang1513 9 років тому

      Existenceisresistence .exeistenceisresistence
      Well NATO is also giving military funds to Eastern European countries such as Poland.

    • @martijnstam6186
      @martijnstam6186 Місяць тому

      NATO never intended to attack Russia, it is Russia violating Ukraine's territorial integrity with its so-called "pro-Russian" separatists. Nobody in Ukraine wants to have anything to do with Putin's Russia. He is a war criminal and a bucher.

  •  9 років тому +1

    What's up with this series? Is this the last one?

  • @charleshogg5459
    @charleshogg5459 9 років тому

    Still waiting for an update...

  • @user-nl6md8pu6y
    @user-nl6md8pu6y 9 років тому +8

    As the first major war I have observed in my lifetime, this series has taught a great deal about the modern context of war. Because of Vice I have been able to follow it as it developed through every typical stage of conflict. The escalation, ideologies, demographics, logistics, impact and diplomacy (or lack thereof) was all witnessed by us, the Vice audience. We all had different opinions and were given the opportunity to share them and define our perceptions of the conflict at every gunshot. Whether it truly ends with this law or not, I think we owe it to a great thing like Vice to allow us to view so honestly. I think true journalism is still alive, and today's technology has made it the purest in history. Slava Rossiya, Slava Ukraini, Slava Vice News.

  • @CarlosManuelPinedaTroncoso
    @CarlosManuelPinedaTroncoso 9 років тому +8

    In plain english:US/EU backed Kiev lost,Novorossiya won.Long live Novorossiya!.So far the score is Putin 4(Snowden,Syria,Crimea,Donbas),Obama 0.

    • @Pandamasque
      @Pandamasque 9 років тому +2

      ***** You mean Mortars&Missiles+ Diplomacy vs. just Diplomacy?

  • @Alexpress81
    @Alexpress81 9 років тому

    where is episode 80?

  • @MiBxItchy
    @MiBxItchy 9 років тому

    where is Dispatch 80?

  • @dustinbray2245
    @dustinbray2245 9 років тому +3

    Let's not forget what Joe Bidens son is doing in Ukraine.

  • @kickinghighify
    @kickinghighify 9 років тому +7

    This jew speaks like a woman!

    • @MrKennykyle1
      @MrKennykyle1 9 років тому +5

      jew?

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 9 років тому

      And that t*ruta governor/oligarch.

    • @kickinghighify
      @kickinghighify 9 років тому

      dave hathaway Not sure where you saw fascination, but yeah - fuck you too you fucking fuck )

  • @GSicKz
    @GSicKz 9 років тому

    2:05 simon hes just the best journalist ever!

  • @soapyfern
    @soapyfern 9 років тому

    I think its interesting how some said that the act or declaration will leave Ukraine dependent on Russia, I hadn't considered when
    until now

  • @borisshel1881
    @borisshel1881 9 років тому +3

    Да у них свастика на флага!!! Очень разговор, какие русские войска если бы там русские войска были то киев наш бы еще весной!!!

    • @kkoshel
      @kkoshel 9 років тому +2

      захлебнулся бы собственной желчью, воэн

    • @borisshel1881
      @borisshel1881 9 років тому

      Кирилл Кошель ни разу не понял, что за комментарий!?

    • @borisshel1881
      @borisshel1881 9 років тому

      Ты мне скажи лучше за кой хуй наши деды этих гондонов в 1945 загосили?

  • @BigMikePlays
    @BigMikePlays 9 років тому +3

    Mobilizing your forces? Against Russian Soldiers and Ukranian civilians... lol give me a break. This guy must be ready to die. Obviously the government in Kiev realized that there was no way that they would win by force. The DNR soldiers need to swallow their pride and behave like good western lap dogs. Good grief.

    • @detrockcity3
      @detrockcity3 2 роки тому

      These oligarchs in both countries really insisted on this war. This all could've been solved with federalism early on...

  • @christopherbardoel8212
    @christopherbardoel8212 9 років тому

    what happened to dispatch 80?

  • @piekazkout1620
    @piekazkout1620 9 років тому +2

    but the question is...Will Russian Roulette go to dispatch 100?

  • @antonrebrov9128
    @antonrebrov9128 9 років тому +5

    Ukraine fight with Russia, some resultes : Ukraine lost Crimea, Eastern Regions, it's army and it's economy. Russia : didn't start to fight yet.

    • @user-lq7dt2wg3o
      @user-lq7dt2wg3o 9 років тому +1

      Hahahah! yeah, too big honor for these poor ukrs to fight Russian Army!!

    • @viktorsaltykov8857
      @viktorsaltykov8857 9 років тому

      FUCK UKRO-SHIT! THAT'S ALL.

  • @thiscouldntblowmore
    @thiscouldntblowmore 9 років тому +6

    WTF is with the "opening" of this video? Should we feel SORRY FOR UKRAINIAN MAFIOSO, that had and his friends some well earned dues paid back, WTF?

  • @joebyren9429
    @joebyren9429 5 років тому

    "They dont want us to record inside here" While recording inside.

  • @odd6554
    @odd6554 8 років тому +1

    The intro is a perfect example as to why wars become pointless. Because it's just an eye for an eye with neither side wanting to not take revenge. Men behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.

  • @user-cr9gk3pd6l
    @user-cr9gk3pd6l 9 років тому +9

    At the end of the video on the Chevron battalion Azov, drawn rune 2.SS-Panzergrenadier-Division Das Reich These people ordinary neo-Nazis.

  • @wiecek13
    @wiecek13 9 років тому +9

    I love how the ukraine military is now blatantly flashing those symbols of fascism

  • @beataj3382
    @beataj3382 9 років тому +1

    Vice this is OUR voice we want to next dispatches.

  • @TheMikediaz100
    @TheMikediaz100 9 років тому +2

    Why doesnt Vice News talk about the Right Sector? I would believe that its would be a nice topic to see both side are going to the wrong route

  • @danielm6739
    @danielm6739 9 років тому +2

    so ukaraine lost?

    • @lukebruce5234
      @lukebruce5234 9 років тому +3

      ye :D
      40k casualties
      EPIC FAIL

    • @danielm6739
      @danielm6739 9 років тому

      DareDevilZombie well, they lost anything that is now rebel territory

    • @danielm6739
      @danielm6739 9 років тому

      DareDevilZombie they lost crimea though?

    • @danielm6739
      @danielm6739 9 років тому

      DareDevilZombie so they lost it

    • @cr4yv3n
      @cr4yv3n 9 років тому

      Luke Bruce
      yes. This tactic was used in Moldova and it is calld "Tranisstrization"- after the ïndependent'( russian agitators ofc ) who started this shit.

  • @robertschweppenhauser9891
    @robertschweppenhauser9891 Рік тому +3

    We the people don't want Putin .

  • @vanessawhite8042
    @vanessawhite8042 9 років тому +2

    Really heavy heart for the Ukrainian people, who obviously love their country so much. it makes even me mad to hear of this "agreement"

  • @Orc-icide
    @Orc-icide 9 років тому

    umm... where is episode #80? this is 81 and the last one was 79...................................................................................

  • @SuperObamaladen
    @SuperObamaladen 9 років тому +3

    Finally everything is over and DPR wins!

    • @whatsgood8426
      @whatsgood8426 9 років тому +4

      SuperObamaladen Stupid Western Ukrainians thought they could wipe out the glorious Russian men and women.

  • @nier3434
    @nier3434 9 років тому +3

    A trip in a private plane for an interview? Journalism in bed with politics again.

    • @THEkamakazeishbear
      @THEkamakazeishbear 9 років тому +4

      are you serious? like really? did you even bother to watch like 15 seconds after that?

  • @captainloveprod
    @captainloveprod 9 років тому

    I don't see a dispatch 80.

  • @oraveczpeter7576
    @oraveczpeter7576 9 років тому

    where ae the new dispatches? :O :S

  • @bernhardlechtenbrink3175
    @bernhardlechtenbrink3175 9 років тому +3

    In eastern Ukraine, mass graves were discovered. Responsible are units of the new government in Kiev. Video: "OSCE reports discovery of three mass graves near Donetsk"

  • @Brandon-yg7mw
    @Brandon-yg7mw 2 роки тому

    So relevant today

  • @Raventommm
    @Raventommm 3 роки тому

    This is a great reporter!

  • @emshains
    @emshains 9 років тому

    WHere's dispatch 80?

  • @kickinghighify
    @kickinghighify 9 років тому

    No electronic appliances on take off ))

  • @Doogie769
    @Doogie769 9 років тому

    well 3 years can go by pretty fast

  • @HaiNguyen-ii6bx
    @HaiNguyen-ii6bx 9 років тому

    Simon, stay safe.
    The fightings are going to flare up again, real soon.

  • @under_psyterror
    @under_psyterror 9 років тому

    Concept of Public Security, see "dead water"

  • @DaBoss985V2
    @DaBoss985V2 9 років тому

    Any more dispatches coming?

  • @jambear7862
    @jambear7862 10 місяців тому +1

    Remember the good old days of vice lol. Long gone now

  • @BENTLE7
    @BENTLE7 9 років тому +2

    I would not go on that plane

  • @TrendingNowUrban
    @TrendingNowUrban 9 років тому +1

    OMG IT'S MarcelHD ;)

  • @BFP2021
    @BFP2021 9 років тому

    what about Crimea?? what does this law say about that issue?

    • @saprophycs950
      @saprophycs950 9 років тому

      Crimea is gone, and will not likley return any time soon. Even if it dosen't want to, Crimea will stay Russian... at least for now.

    • @BFP2021
      @BFP2021 9 років тому

      SaproPhycs Derpy
      yea but there needs to be some official agreement between ukranian and russian governments. you cant just take over someone else's land and not deal with it in international politics.

    • @saprophycs950
      @saprophycs950 9 років тому

      perfecttrunks2000 Russia han't got an official role in this, or so they claim al least. Russia can't make a deal for the pro-Russian rebels or else Russias cover in the war would be blown.
      Russia can only encourage (or order, depending how you see it) the rebels to follow the peace deal that mainly benefits the pro-Russians.
      Wish there was a better way, but there sadly isn't any. Not unless Porosenko sends more Ukrainians to the death trap that awaits them that Russia totally didn't set.

  • @hackneo64
    @hackneo64 9 років тому +2

    looks like Ukraine blinked first

  • @detrockcity3
    @detrockcity3 2 роки тому +1

    This guy's attitude about not forgiving is part of the problem. No one wants to forgive that, but the dying needed to stop...

  • @Nefed
    @Nefed 9 років тому +1

    is this the last dispatch from Ukraine?

  • @bepisschultz6971
    @bepisschultz6971 9 років тому

    so is the war over now?

  • @p3achFUZZ69
    @p3achFUZZ69 9 років тому +1

    There's....... someone on the wing! SOME...... THING!

  • @ericakamrkrump
    @ericakamrkrump 9 років тому +2

    The dude in the beginning could be Simons dad.

  • @Xkick99
    @Xkick99 9 років тому

    Listen closely at 6:33-6:36. Is that gunfire?

  • @jetgold
    @jetgold 9 років тому

    We wish there was new dispatch from the ukraine both the reporters are very good in telling the story from there. Hope all is safe and they can get the real story out.

  • @pabis6817
    @pabis6817 2 роки тому +2

    The guy @6:50.

  • @snowonweb
    @snowonweb 9 років тому +2

    I think it might be VICE news who doesn't like the new law and is only showing interviews and interviewers from people who are against this new law.

  • @pablerarav8381
    @pablerarav8381 9 років тому

    Is this the last of the dispatches? It's been a while.

  • @jackk3321
    @jackk3321 9 років тому

    When Simon was in the plane he seemed so fucking done with the Ukrainian leaders being Oligarchs, him eating the food and, playing with the window was hilarious.