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- Nhl toronto maple leafs vs ottawa senators was actually a great game, but the morgan rielly ridly greig empty net slapshot goal took all the headlines in the most recent nhl battle of ontario . Too bad we don't get another maple leafs vs senators game this season . Morgan rielly will have an in-person hearing today so we'll see how many games he gets. For more nhl news and trade rumors , nhl highlights today , plenty of leafs sens coverage including a follow-up of the greig rielly saga, subscribe. Nhl hockey
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Very interesting about the tweet that Austin Matthews did the same thing last week and no one said a word.
Absolutely agree that Greig should have seen it coming, and I absolutely agree that it could have been handled much differently with the same message sent
yes the refs could have handled it better by immediately disallowing the goal and issuing an unsportsmanlike penalty Greig
Sorry, but Greig should NOT expect to be cross-checked in the head by a hothead in Morgan Rielly. And here's the thing. It was a slapshot into an empty net. That doesn't break any code. It's just baloney that's completely made up. It was a way of signifying the fact that the Senators had completed a great season for themselves specifically for asserting bragging rights over the Leafs. There's nothing wrong with that. But Rielly couldn't handle that, and stupidly overreacted. Perhaps if he gave Greig a talking to or a little push, that'd be more accepted. But what he did was completely over the line.
@@jamesberry3230lmfao there's still time to delete this, I might be the only one who saw it. Leafs fans....
@@jamesberry3230 aw did he hurt your feelings?
@@jamesberry3230 Unsportsmanlike penalty for what? Scoring? Please go show me the rule you rube.
Sens fan here - this is the right way to view this all. Rielly should have roughed him up and at most, drop the gloves. Greig knew exactly what he was doing but disrespecting a team by not abiding to an "unwritten code" does not warrant taking a cross check to the head.
Rielly took the bait and Greig got the last laugh. Plus he'll still challenge Rielly to a real fight when they play next year.
Empty Net Scenarios:
*light tap in* = nothing
*light wrist shot in* = nothing
*emphatic wrist shot in* = nothing
*hard snap shot in* = nothing
*roof daddy from the goal line in* = nothing
*slap shot from the blue line in* = nothing
*slap shot from hash marks in* = warrants an "appropriate response" ...
Like, what? lmfao
Exactly. So asinine that players can't slap a puck into an empty net. It's not like it's hurting anyone, other than the empty net. It's disrespectful to the empty net for sure, but I don't think it knows how to feel.
I think it’s because in most cases EN’s are scored from a distance, just like a clear attempt, but with the purpose of putting it on net. Other times they’re scored by actually taking the puck up into the offensive zone to legitimize the chance of scoring on the play, but none of those show this sort of “fuck you” way of capitalizing on it.
Personally, I would care less if I were on the Leafs in this moment, but it’s understandable on why it does warrant that response.
Greig could have just did a weak wrister, or slid it in, but when someone goes out of their way to slap it like they’re taking a clap bomb from the blue line; then I think they’re doing it intentionally to send a message
I love that move, Haha
No body got hurt, puts an exclamation point on the game.
Over celebrating an empty net goal is against “the code” in my opinion. . . . But not a slap shot like that. Good for the game. He actually had a good chance of missing the net. With that kind of shot . Risky , but I like it
Its more the adittude and message behind scoring the goal rather than the way the put the puck in the net
black =/= white
Its a slapshot into an open net. If you can't handle that and deal with it, then you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself who you are. As for the fans, the leaf fans cheering on that high stick to the head are scumbags and this is why they are hated by everyone in the league.
Gotta agree. People acting like he did a slapper after a whistle at a goalie (or even skater). This is just an empty net goal😂
@@justjohnny420Riiiight exactly. Take one after the whistle blows okay now you got a point but this was just sore loser type frustration
If David Perron gets a suspension for a cross check to the head when defending a teammate (which he deserved, by the way), then Rielly absolutely deserves a suspension for a cross check to the head because he didn't like how an opponent scored a goal.
Ther are some things in the nhl that are disrespectful but not against the rules its part of the game, this was one of them. Not saying Reily doesn’t deserve a suspension, he totally does, but its a bit nore then preference
Yes but Rielly's feelings were hurt, doesn't it count for something ?😂
Senators fans are as soft as the players on the team lol
@@LucyBatmanslappers into empty net dont break any hockey code rules
@@kevinthedp The irony about being so butt-hurt because of the way the puck went into an empty net.
Some guys are great at stirring the pot, the easiest way to shut them up is to win those games.
True, and one guy is in a playoff race and one guy isn't. Rielly made it about himself to the detriment of the team.
The game was over. What you're saying would only be applicable if Greig stirred the pot at the start of the game. He waited until it was over so he wouldnt have to answer the bell.
Exactly, if you don’t want someone to celebrate a home run don’t give them a home run to celebrate
@@mattm6580he knew he’d have to answer, you think he did that thinking no one would do something? He did it fully knowing there would be retaliation, he wanted the smoke duhhhh 🤦
@@NicEeEe843Nah because the game is over he won’t have to play another shift against the leafs this year. Making him a grade a p*ssy like the rest of the Senators! He was running for the bench when he got smoked. Too bad the Leaf player didn’t collect a few teeth on the play.
ah yes ghe slap shot empty netter versur an intention to hurt. totally deserves to be in the same conversation. 😅 morgan should get as many games as possible
You sound like you just started following hockey yesterday champ.heres a tissue nancy,you go take a moment .
@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174 you shouldnt advertise your lack of basic human decency. he will get a susp for a reason. probably just 2 games though
@@martinzyka6432 the way you advertise your lack of knowledge of the game champ?ill stand by my comment .
@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174 what knowledge? he has a hearing, he's most likely gonna be suspended. maybe it's you who think it's 1996.
@@martinzyka6432 you ,you sound like a flake that doesnt watch hockey and is just lookin for attention.you dont know enough about the game to have an opinion that matters champ.yes,ive been alive and following hockey for decades longer than you have.youre still in the minors .i bet they didnt keep score at your soccer games.
Anyone whos ok with cross checking someone in the head after a play is insane anyway
hey dummy, he went to crosscheck his body but the stick went up along his arm to the head
Greig slapshots an empty net. Okay warrants some chirping. Head targeting? Not appropriate at any time. As THG says, If Toronto doesnt want to have a slapshot on their empty net, maybe try not losing to the Ottawa Senetors?
you do know that ottawa is in last place
i guess that was their stanly cup...sad
@@johnholmes8919try not losing to Florida
@@johnholmes8919 haha yeah and Toronto lost to em mate. What's that say?
@@johnholmes8919 We all know... And the Leaf's lost to them 5-3 LOL
@@johnholmes8919 And the Laffs could win out and still be out in the 1st round. AGAIN.
the clapper to the net was great imo lol
so was getting clapped after for it
So was the clapback, lol
Leaf player couldnt take the loss...suck it up and act professional. No rule in hockey that says a player cant slapshoot into an empty net during the game.
@@niagarajoe4402Yeah after the game ended bc he couldn’t stop it during the actual play 😂 that’s what sore losers and I don’t root for either team
Nothing wrong with scoring any kind of goal using a slap shot. There is no code that disallows goal scoring celebrations and that allows cross checking to the head. The Ottawa player could not expect Morgan to go bananas- as he did.😀Why not a 10 game suspension to stop fans believing a code exists that encourages Morgan to become a poor sportsman and bad loser?😀
if you dont want a slapshot on an empty net dont pull the goalie🤣
Best comment ever. 👏👏
You're both d umb
If you dont want yer head done in,dont hot dog or disrespect the other team.if yer gonna be an ass,yer gonna answer the bell.
@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174 Maybe that's the sentiment in Newfoundland, but in civilized societies, it's just a puck in an empty net at a rapid velocity... the only thing he hurt was the Leaf/Leaf fans' ego... Mr. Reilly could have conceivably killed Mr. Grieg....but being a Newf... aaahhh, forget it
@@RememberMe123-b4b if yer not going to follow hockey,dont try to have an opinion.nothing you said is true. ”its just a puck in an empty net at rapid velocity” ……you just proved how little you know about hockey champ,go play with your toys,you dont matter.
I'm a Sens fan. Not going to lie, I love the shot, love the attitude. But I also completely understand Rielly feeling the need to react. Had he gone after Grieg **AND DROPPED THE GLOVES** neither I nor most fans would have a problem with it. Really have to wonder about people claiming he's "defending the code" by using his stick...
Dropping the gloves in the last five minutes is an automatic 1 game suspension, so I get why Rielly didnt do it.
But I also dont understand why he would go for a potential 5+ game suspension by cross checking a guy in the head long after the play is dead.
Rielly is completely wrong. You're allowed to score anyway you want. For over 20 years we been getting replays of Patrik Stefan's missed empty net vs. Edmonton, so Greig was making sure he didn't make the same error. If Rielly doesn't like being goofed on in a game his team is losing, play better and don't lose the game.
That’s ridiculous, your aim is much worse on a slapper than pretty much anything else
@@elijahrutledge4215 Doesn't really matter from ten feet out.
@@elijahrutledge4215So that makes it okay to go after him 5-10 seconds after the play is over when he’s going to celebrate?
Team Rielly or Team common sense, What side you on? It's not seen as "soft" to have sportsmanship. They're supposed to be professional athletes. I fully support clapping pucks into empty nets (it's the NHL's equivalent to a victory dance). Only insecure or immature players would take that as a sign of disrespect. The point of the game is to get pucks across the goal line (at what velocity they cross is irrelevant). Hope he gets 6 games, other players take notes & everyone in the league starts slapping pucks in on empty netters.
Slapshotting the puck into an empty net with 3 seconds left isn't sportsmanship either you gomer. I'll assume you've never played the sport competitively before. Reilly should be suspended, his response was way too aggressive, but pretending what happened warrants zero response is just ridiculous.
@KS-xk2so 😅 I played for years and know players in the NHL (old teammates) granted they are all veterans now since I am 42 and hockey mentality is pretty immature these days. Unsportsmanlike conduct is how a player interacts with another player and NOT how someone scores a goal/interacts with a puck and empty net. Like I said you'd have to have a pretty fragile ego to take offense to the point of cross checking a guy in the face.. on his home ice ta'boot after he rips one into the open net 😅 I guess that makes me a "goomer"
@@jizzaymz lol ok sure, you and all your NHL pals, which I totally believe by the way, must be unique then. Even Sens players have been quoted saying they wouldn't have like the slapshot if it was done to them, but sure, its fine.
@@KS-xk2soanyone who thinks there needed to be a response is braindead. No imaginary code broken here
@@KS-xk2soif u havent noticed already... these days nhl players are weak mentally, start fights over ever clean big hit.
Elite play by Greig. Stud rookie getting the leafs to lose their best d-man for up to 6 games. The leafs tried and failed to find a player like him all summer.
Sure helped the Sens way down there at the bottom. Lmao so many of their clown fans told me this was their actual year after they shit the bed last year then they do even worse....Lol
Elite? More like a minor house leaguers play. There are unwritten rules in the nhl, you just do do that kind of stuff and think you’ll be respected. If that were a leaf player all you leaf haters would be up in arms about the disrespect shown to another team. Johnny’s take on it is perfect the only thing I’d say is that Grieg sold it hard, acting hurt only to pop up and skate away, he would probably make a better soccer player with acting like that
Hes a plug and the sens have to rebuild to make the playoffs in 5 years
@Emotionallyunstableleafsfan he's a first round pick in his rookie year and he just got Reilly suspended. If he was a Leaf they would offer him 10 mill.
@@evanferris5035 Jesus that explains why Ottawa is a dumpster fire with a first rounder like him, and we haven't even mentioned boss baby or the Oscar winner Timmy..... Pathetic excuse for an NHL team. They should definitly add Zegras as soon as they get a chance... Ottawa and it's fan base should join Quebec
Here are my thoughts on this.
1. There is no rule for how you score an EN goal. If he wants to slap it from a few feet out, let him. Nothing unsportsmanlike about it, even wit a 5.1 left on the clock. Now if time expired, or it was offside, that I get.
2. I appreciate Morgan's response, but yeah, going for the head ain't it.
3. If the Leafs are going to get that pissy over an ENG, then maybe don't put yourself in a position to be pissy over an ENG.
unsportmanship isn't dictated by the rulebook. that would be the legality of it. so your 1st point is already incorrect.
point #3 is also irrelevent. "oh you dont want a crosscheck to the head, then maybe don't put yourself in a position to be crosschecked in the head". sounds ridiculous doesnt it?
If Rielly wants to send a message, he should be cross-checking his own teammates to get off their a$$ and not lose games they should win. Start with Marner.
I would do a Michigan (if I could do it) to the empty net if I felt like doing so. F your code and fragile egos.
Again I have been saying this all day. What are 2!!!! This is not Pee Wee! He shot the puck in the net in a HOME GAME!!!! Where Toronto lost all 3 games these two teams would meet for the season. Kinda like an "!" we kick your ass If you got a problem maybe you should have came to play, instead of crying like a little girl and throwing a temper tantrum!!!!!
I don't see what's so bad about a player slapping into the net like that. I take that over a Patrik Stefan casually going to the net and not scoring then the other team ties it. If allowing empty net goals pisses you off maybe try being better at defense so it doesn't happen
He'll yea I mentioned this on another channel after Stefan tried to dangle the empty net and the puck jumped over his stick into the corner then ales hemsky took it it the other way and scored then oilers won in ot.this altered the standings and had huge consequences in the draft order.theres a video on it everyone should check it out.all the wankers who think it's such a terrible thing to drill it into an empty net especially should watch it and then shut TFU about your stupid code
@@coldeadhands I remember watching that on TV in college with my buddies and freaking out saying "we're going to see this replayed for the next 30 years" Then it also cost the Oilers Patrick Kane which pretty much sums up being an oilers fan from 2007-2015.
or try to win the game and not be a bunch of lazy losers.
I guess that's why you've never played hockey in your life
I’ve played hockey and it’s still a stupid play from Rielly that hurts the Leafs and has Greig laughing at us
What is worse? Scoring a goal or attemting to injure a player?🤔
Depends on the player?
Your bias is showing. Thats not simply "scoring a goal" and you know it. This is exactly what this video is talking about. Both parties in this did something they shouldn't have. Trying to pretend one didn't is just pathetic and invalidates your entire argument.
@@KS-xk2so But still that goal only causes emotional damage and stick to the face causes physical damage
@KS-xk2so Both didn't do something wrong. One did something objectively wrong, the other did something you could argue is in poor taste. Huge difference.
@@CaptainBoban Its not an argument. If you think it is, you know shit all about the game. Again, ridiculous bias is showing.
You can slap shot an empty net at home in front of fans no big deal
If this is in Torontos barn than thats super disrespectful, if its just clapping one in to seal the game after a hard fought battle at home then I don't see a problem with it. Its rude for sure and should get A RESPONSE, not THAT RESPONSE.
Really champ?on what rink would someone have done that to Boston and not had any retaliation?
@@jonah2486 its not disrespectful don't get butt hurt over a goal
@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174 Difference is Bostons retaliation wouldn't have been cowardly. They'd have either dropped the gloves maybe a bit of wash washing and shit talking.
theres no code in Hockey for an empty netter, if you watch the game you see Greig eating a few cross check and didnt called (refs don't see every thing)
This is also great for a rivalry that went quiet for the last little bit.
Throw the book at Reilly's head!
Greig got in their heads.
Reaves on the ice at the end could of been bad for Keefe.
Only reason it didn't... team Zebra was very proactive and did a lot of body blocking on the last play of the game.
As a Sens fan, the slap shot was hilarious and fine, Rielly reacting is also fine, Rielly crossed the line by going straight to the head with his stick. Drop the gloves, fine, but straight up cross check to the head is a suspension.
Question is would you have been fine if a leaf had slapped the puck in the net, that being said i do agree that dropping the gloves would have been more appropriate. Also taking the action out of the picture the player in question has 225 penalty minutes in 769 nhl games played and has never been suspended. While I don't condone his actions, it does speak volumes about on ice respect, and ill bet the Qttawa player will also remember this the next time he tries to showboat.
@@johnwright8397 History doesn't matter when intent to injure and targeting the head are involved.
As for the leafs taking a clapper into an empty net, as I said before, go drop the gloves.
@@johnwright8397that’s an absolute shit take. I thought nhl players weren’t crybabies but I guess Toronto players are the exceptions. Maybe don’t give up an empty netter and play better- I thought they were supposed to be elite.
It’s not illegal to do.. I get it but like Bertuzzi situation can’t just retaliate when you want there’s time and place. Hitting after game is being a sore loser there’s really no justifying that
You gave one of the only logical assessment on this, I've seen countless hockey channels bash the leafs for showing the one thing they get ragged on for not having. Thank you
The Maple Queefs deserve it. Dangle said it great in his LFR that the Queefs dont have any heart.
@@pilotamuroreiyou’re saying that like your team isn’t awful
wrong
@pilotamurorei very clever. I'm sure your parents are proud of your abilities 😂
Yeah, you’re supposed to show that enthusiasm during the game, not after the whistles blown on a finished play. Clown shoes 🤡
What I do know is that if Nick Cousins had done this the entire Leaf fan base would be screaming for his permanent suspension and for the Panthers to be disqualified from the postseason.
Prrrrrreach Jaws; can't stand Leaf's fans, nothing personal just a bunch of entitled whinners... Said Panther's fan...
Cousins is infamous for being a dirty rat and turtling whenever there's pushback. Rielly is squeaky clean. Apples and oranges.
The way I look at it, we are comparing a slap shot into an empty net vs a cross check to the head. Why didnt he drop the gloves ? Out of everything that's happened in Toronto the last 5 yrs this is what they react to ? This is what they take offence to. Bigger problems in Toronto
It was an unique situation because of the Leaf fans that filled Ottawas rink. There were more Leaf fans then Sens fans. ( i could elaborate )
Greig's gesture was towards those fans in the rink, not towards the Leafs team or players exactly...
Or just scoring a goal. Who cares how ge did it?
All the other teams are probably sending Grieg a fruit basket for what he did.
Annoying Leaf fans at every visiting arena. Grieg in a "not so subtle way" showed them what he thought.
And Moe’s responds was for the Leaf fans in the building.
beside it was Greig 1st time for scoring a NHL goal with a slapshot. @@Bc232klm
Was a great goal😀 Hope he tries a Michigan style goal next time. Just shows the Leafs are now a Wildcard Team and are bad losers about it.
Icing on the cake with slap shot .... Cross check to the head deserve 6 game suspension. Fact the Reaves got sent to ice with 5 seconds shows Leafs are goons !!!
Fair enough. On other side, shouldn't be goals like Lacrosse / Michigan called as disrespectful? It's grey area and honestly, if you are pissed by goal like this, you had 59 minutes of game to not allow it.
Got a point
Those goals represent a way for a high skill player to score a goal in an unexpected fashion. If Zegras for example just attempts a regular wraparound or a pass to the slot, the chances of that being successful are less than the Michigan, (for him) in that particular type of situation.
With this ENG, scoring was not in doubt.
It is fine to hate Michigan goals, but those sorts of goals are not like this. They represent an unconventional way to score a goal, within the rules. Are they against the code? Apparently not. I haven’t seen anyone get their head taken off for attempting the Michigan like we saw here with the ENG slapper.
Bro after my heart here I was saying this on another channel recently.
Yeah retaliating after the play ends when you had a chance to before is right next to the definition of “sore loser” in the dictionary
Unless you possess superhuman mind reading qualities, you are simply groping in the dark 🖐🏻⚫️🖐🏻 and assuming that he knew that the other team would respond the way that they did.
I've played hockey, not aware of any code for empty net goals. Hoping for a ten game suspension. Definitely intent to injure, not aware of any code that says that you should drive your stick through someone's head.
I agree. What friggen code?? So what if he clapped it in, albeit doing so you do risk fanning or blow it over the net. Leafs are babies.
@@kevintorgrimson8529 Loafs are worse that babies because at least babies know how to have emotion.
He back checks like he has a piano tied to his ass and then throws a hissy fit. Its so funny that Leaf fans are like "hE sHoWeD eMoTiOn". If thats what showing emotion means theres something seriously wrong with your team.
Reilly pulled a non hockey play after a play doesn’t belong in hockey only belongs on the street
Riley has the A on his jersey, he can't just let it go.
Also, Riley has the A on his jersey, he shouldn't be going for Greig's head. Period.
he didn't, principle point of contact was his shoulder..
@@niagarajoe4402you should probably get your eyes checked.
@@niagarajoe4402 That's still too close to the face. It also looks like Greig raised his shoulder to protect his face. If he hadn't done that, would it still be his shoulder?
Principal point of contact was shoulder on the Perron cross check as well. Was just unfortunate that the stick road up the shoulder and hit Zub in the face violently.
@@RedWingsFanClub Doesn’t matter. The suspension they have DP had a few extra games because he’s a Red Wing 😂
Im a leafs fan and morgan reily is my favourite defenceman and one of my favourite players
But i do think he should have reacted but the cross check was un called for
(should have just dropped the gloves )
Can't go starting a fight in the last 5 minutes, instigator penalty is an immediate 1 game suspension in the last 5 minutes of a game.
What code? So he slapped it. Woopty do!
Exactly!
Just because the player took a slap shot at net doesn't call for a dangerous hit to the head 1:32 😮😮😮😮
Good thing, we can't have people saying mean things online!
Thik about that: if this was happened off ice, Rielly would have been arrested. Other than that, I agree with the statement in the video: Toronto needed to respond, but not this way...
No problem with Reilly going after him.
But be a man and drop the mitts, crosschecking a guy in the face is some bush league coward bullshit
A calm, clear, and concise uncolored assessment, thanks
Great take! 💯 agree with you
Truth is that Rielly stepped up for an unwritten rule. One that should have died long ago. OH GOD HE TOOK A SLAP SHOT AT AN EMPTY NET THE HORROR. Ya know what? If that's the sort of response you think should happen, some roughing up afterwards, you are wrong. Like, this isn't like Yakupov scoring a goal then sliding across the ice on his stomach like a clown to celebrate. That, is unsportsmanlike. The oilers are my team by the by. If the leafs didn't want to look bad then they shouldn't have lost to the Senators, AGAIN. No discipline, no heart, no chance at the playoffs IF THEY EVEN MAKE IT. The Sens would have a better chance if they get there somehow. WHICH IS HILARIOUSLY SAD.
I don’t get it? Why can’t you slap one in the empty net? Seems silly to me
You'd don't understand the unwritten rules of respect in the sport, certainly at the highest level. The Hockey Guy just did a good video on "The Code".
@@stevencooke6451 oh I get they have these unwritten rules. I’m just not sure what this incident does to provoke? Who cares if he slapped in the net? Just go out and beat them next time, that’s the way you get even. Like in Football if someone catches a TD and then does a celebration in the end zone, how often do you see the other team close line the guy in the end zone?
Hopefully he gets a minimum 6 game suspension. There is absolutely no code whatsoever on how you can score a goal. Had that shot been after a whistle then yes Riley would have the right to scruff him up a bit, but definitely not cross check him in the head
Reilly went Dale Hunter. He should get what Dale Hunter got. Btw sports is the entertainment business and the Sens can do anything they damn well want on home ice. Suck it Leafs.
Good to see the leafs retaliate on your ass.
That was a leafs home game wasnt it?
Dale Hunter had a tad bit more history…
@@beeffarmer8576all leaf games in Ottawa are
Todd Bertuzzi
this old school machismo "thats disrespectful" stuff is really just projected insecurity --- rielly is frustrated they lost... its a spineless, classless move, and this "unwritten rule" nonsense is a cop out for people (little boys) who cant control their emotions -- this kind of stuff, like we've seen in baseball (throwing at batters who "show up your team), won't be tolerated for much longer... and toronto will still never win anything!
the slapshot was hilarious lol..
greig should've known there would've been a response but rielly is a little bch with the cross check...
drop the gloves, don't use your stick
Greig would 10000% Turtled like a bitch
I’ll take that suspension EVERY-TIME. You pull goof moves, you eat stick. Sure it cost a suspension but I’d do it every single time. I am a nut though lol
@@Oldmanflyfishingso you care more about some dumb slapshot over winning hockey games?
@@tomcooks2562 who’s going to do that to the leafs again? Yeah exactly….greig f’ed around and found out…
@@tomcooks2562 I see your point. You have to also understand that the Leafs have a bunch of pansies that skate for them. To see an actual emotional response is exactly what I want from this group. To hate to lose and unfortunately it will lead to a suspension but you have to send some sort of message.
if you have ever been to a Sens Leafs game in Ottawa you will notice half the fans cheer for the Leafs, well and good its a free country, I'd like to believe Greig was sticking it to the loud obnoxious at times Leaf fans and not disrespecting the Leafs players, they sure shut up after that slapshot. and Rielly should man up fight the guy don't sucker him with your stick, should be a 5+ games suspension to stop this from happening again. Then the Leafs send out the goons for last seconds, bush league
How is this classless and disrespectful? Greig did a hockey play he hustles hard to get to the puck to take a slap shot into a net. Empty or a goalie standing there it is a hockey play no matter what. What Rielly did wasn't a hockey play. Goes after someone after a goal with a cross check high.
If people think a slap shot empty netter is so disrespectful and classless than they should think the same about a Michigan goal.
Sometimes the NHL is like the NFL the no fun league. Players get ripped by fans for showing their personality and get ripped for just using the same old hockey cliche answers.
If Greig did this in TO id be no questions asked he deserved that, but it was in OTT packed with Leafs fans as all Sens home games are vs the leafs so it can be seen as this is our building statement and I'm fine with it and I'm also fine with Reilys response....IF it wasn't to the face, you crosscheck him mid section and scrap with him iam also fine with that. Just you lose me when you go for the face.
W take here. Couldn't agree more. I don't really understand how there is a debate here it's pretty obvious that there would be a response by the leafs, but Rielly simply chose a dangerous one.
wrong
If u think a response was needed for an empty netter slapper then u are braindead. End of story
To paraphrase a quote that Naomi Klein uses in a much different context: he got the feelings right, but the response wrong (using the stick rather than the body). But, had the Leafs done what they usually do, i.e., nothing, that would have been the story. That, and the fact that the Leafs are always badly outplayed by the Sens.
@@stevencooke6451 100%. There are many other better responses than a cross check to the head. Also, the leafs wouldn’t have been in this situation to begin with if they had played better and not lost to the sens…🤣
I have only seen people saying Riley is completely wrong and there's nothing wrong with what Grieg did until this video. this shit pisses me off cuz it seems no matter what people will always say the leafs are wrong just because its the leafs with zero logic behind it. no response "leafs are soft" response "leafs are dirty" leafs lose they suck leafs win they just got lucky or ref blaming. like I get hating on franchises especially rivals, I make fun of Montreal all the time but at a certain point it becomes genuine delusion and it only happens to such an extent with the leafs. I dont think I need to say who I support but my take is Grieg got what was coming to him for acting like an immature idiot. and at the same time riley is gonna be suspended and it could have been done different. despite that im happy riley did something. I guarantee if it was the other way around not a single person would be saying what they are now. the narrative would just be the leafs are clowns for taking a slap shot on an empty net and they should've been crosschecked twice
Reilly was 100% wrong, and he has earned every game the Office of Player Safety gives him. There are ways to handle slights and the breaking of unwritten rules, but a cross check to the head isn’t it.
If Rielly was tough he wouldve dropped the gloves and I'd gave 0 issues Id respect it but he played fake tough guy. What this showed was that its easy to get ubder the Leafs skin and Rielly has a short temper so guess what if the Bruins and Leafs play round 1 Marchand has a new target that he knows he can easily get a good reaction out of. Greig wants to get a reaction there and he would do that play all day he thrives on getting in his opponents head. The game was also over anyways and who cares how you score on an empty net
The Sens player was wrong. 3/10 wrong. The Leafs player was wrong 9.5/10 wrong. The Leafs coach was wrong. 13/10 wrong
Greig maybe in the wrong but its not against the rules or anything like that, and Rielly is in the complete wrong here and deserves every game and fines that gets handed to him and maybe considered to light for this attack, no matter how you feel about the whole play one side did nothing wrong while Rielly cross checked player in the head long after the whistle blew! thats an attempt to injure non hockey play that could actually be considered assault, in comparing this to some that have bin! it was gross non hockey play with the only intent to injure
It will always blow my mind that professional hockey players are capable of getting _legitimately_ UPSET when someone is "mean" to them.
Nothing wrong with the slapper......
I use to kind of just tell myself that leaf's fans are just passionate, but after hearing some of their takes, I don't really respect them lol
IMO, wish Moe didn’t do that but at the same time, it’s about time someone, anyone on the Leafs, showed some sort of emotion.
At least Moe isn’t okay with losing like the rest of this team.
Sure…and Reilly just keeps adding up the penalty minutes for every time the Leafs lose! NOT F-IN LIKELY!
There’s a difference between “showing emotion” versus cross-checking an opponent in the face because one’s butthurt. Lots of ways Rielly could have “showed emotion” adequately that don’t involve pushing a hockey stick’s shaft forcefully into a dude’s grill.
well, i'm about to get a lot of flack for this but this is just as bad as Dale Hunter on Pierre Turgeon for me... in fact i think a body check is not as bad as a cross check to the face. Hunter got what? 20 games? ...
Unprofessional from both, but you can see Greig tries to stop the crosscheck with his hand, which causes it to ride up to his face. Without his attempted block, it hits his arm or shoulder.
just remember guys. george parros is in charge of all this...
I try to forget that as often as possible. Of all the people who might have done the job, and perhaps effectively. But, I imagine Buttman wanted a yes-man.
Reillys frustration should be taken on the playoffs, not on a team they can’t beat when they’re at the bottom of the standings. Enjoy the suspension and fine buddy
No rule on how to score a goal full stop anybody who claims a code is an idiot. There's no justification for a cross check to the head under any circumstances
Max suspension. Rielly could have just body checked him hard sending a message. 😮
Totally agree. Nothing wrong with a little face wash with a smelly glove but cross to the face is wrong. Hurts the team in the long run.
It’s interesting to see how many people are defending Reilly here vs how many people defended Perron for the cross-check after Larkin went down. Is the difference just that Perron had the wrong guy? Or that there are just more Leafs fans than wings fans?
Maple Queefs fans believe in magical rainbows that their team is actually good. They need serious mental help.
Serious answers only pls
Wings fans were more pissed that Joseph didn't see anything more than a 2 minute penalty after knocking larkin out cold. Perron definitely deserved the suspension.
@@mattl2642,
He didn't knock him out cold... what knocked him out was his neck colliding with the other Sens' player's stick/hand. If the second player wasn't there, Larkin would have been fine.
I’ve stated before that I definitely don’t think the slap shot was necessary (could’ve just tapped it in) however the response after is absolutely baffling, sure a fight is fine but the cross check to the face is what makes this so bad,
Taylor Hall ripped an empty net clapper a few years ago, the opposing team did sfa. Leafs are soft either way.
Thank god someone finally said this. Was the response too much? Yep. Was SOME TYPE of response warranted? Yep. People pretending that the slapper was nothing are fucking deluding themselves, but at the same time, that crosscheck wasn't the move. He should've dropped the gloves and scrapped the kid to send that message.
It truly blows me away that some people hate the Leafs so much that they can pretend that slap shot wasn't classless and full of disrespect. Even if its just a dumb rookie getting too excited, thats still the message it sends. I don't think Reilly meant to actually tee off on his head there, he doesn't have 2 hands on his stick when it makes contact and it rides up his shoulder... but still, you're responsible for your own play. He should get some games for sure. I think with his record and the context of the situation 4 would be reasonable, but sounds like it might be 6 or 7.... who knows really?
Disrespect? Disrespect is hitting a guy from the blind side in the head. The slap shot is actually nonsense. Rielly can take care of that after the game just commenting that he was surprised he actually hit the net, and he can practice his shot more while the Leafs are in the playoffs. You counter annoying pest stuff by being annoying. Now he is looking at at least 6 games AND next season a fight with Brady Tkachuk.
I agree a scrap would be much better than the cross check, however Grieg is also the type of player that won’t drop the gloves and will turtle or run away. I don’t think Reilly intended to hit him in the head, so that should be considered.However he did hit him in the head so a suspension is not out of line
Shutup already
@richardpussciott5939 I'll be laughing my ass off when the loser dynasty misses the playoffs 😅😅😂
@@daveroelands625 I mean, drop the gloves and start throwing them, even if he turtles like a bitch, the point is made, and you can still land a few good ones before everyone scums it up. Hopefully its not too crazy.... I just hope he doesn't get dinged with a Leafs tax like Spezza and Matthews seemed to.
Rielly deserves every minute of the 6+ games he's going get. There is no unwritten code for the way one puts the puck into an empty net, unless it's after the horn or whistle.
There is an unwritten code actually but it's bullshit and not actually a rule.
there absolutely is. what other reason did he have to slapshot it into an empty net other than to show boat and be a sore winner.
@@VooDooLouie1030 To the victor goes the spoils always been that way and always will. There is no “sore winners” just sore losers and I think you know that
@@VooDooLouie1030 Sore winner? That's not even a thing. Get real.
To all you woke fans out there. From now on due to players crying about loosing we will now ban shots on the net.
The Leaves ARE soft. That was a gutless and cowardly move.
Yes ofc he deserves to be suspended but if I was Rielly, I'd be more mad about the fact that:
-he's the only "core" guy to take a team friendly deal.
-Only core guy to consistently show up in the playoffs.
-your coach routinely looks clueless and has basically lost the room
-Has to play with the corpse of TJ Brodie this season.
-your new GM struck out on all his UFA signings and isn't doing shit about the terrible defense
-Made a brutal turnover earlier in the game that let the Sens score.
-ONLY Leafs player even skating back, the rest of them had given up already.
But it's not like you can crosscheck your teammates, coach or GM eh
The Leafs have been beaten like a red-headed step-child for ages, Reilly was wrong in how he did it, but he did something.
As said, if he had done nothing, us fans would be screaming.
"The Code" is bullshit.
The parts of it that are designed to prevent accidents and stupid injuries (like "don't shoot after the whistle") are OK. The rest is bullshit.
the correct response is to win the next game, not fighting or trying to hurt the opponent player.
I still am so bewildered as to why anyone cares about a slap shot into an empty net. "DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HE KNOWS HES GONNA GET A RESPONSE" bro, he did literally nothing wrong. Some people make it sound like its somehow a massive diss to Toronto. But What difference does it make? Are we out here just worried that the netting will have be replaced, and Rielly is just out here standing up for the equipment manager? I feel like if he did nothing in response to the goal, NOBODY would care about it. I don't think anyone would say "Oh the leafs let him slap it into the empty net, they're such softies." because how mentally cooked do we have to be to think shooting a puck into an empty net is some sort of capital offense?
So to me, its insane that the take I'm seeing is "Greig shouldn't have done that, but Rielly went too far" instead of "why tf did Rielly assault a guy for literally doing nothing wrong?". I feel like this is like a much stupider version of baseballs "Oh, your pimping your homerun by staring at it for slightly too long. That didn't make me feel good, I will now throw a ball at your head for revenge" BS. Someone PLEASE give me a good reason as to why what Greig did is at all bad/disrespectful/offensive. All this video said was "he knew what he was doing was bad" but 0 actual reasoning as to why it was bad.
Nobody has ever accused a hockey player from being sensible or civilized.
as a leaf fan i like Riley going after him it shows he has heart and cares about the team but absolutely he should not have crosschecked him to the head as it's dangerous to the other player
that's the idea.
I’m an Ottawa fan and completely understand why Reilly went after him but the cross check is not the answer.
...it showed what we already knew about Morgan....that hes mentally soft and lost it over rothing . Great to see that he ll get suspended for being a huge pussy , using his stick to the head. Leaf fans are notoriously ridicuous homers and your no different. If the roles were reversed you'd be singing a different tune im sure 😂. Literally a nothing situation that Morgan turned into at least a 5 game suspension and you lovei t that he let his team down. If hes wasnt such a pussy he would of used his hands. Probably get no suspension . But he had to blind side with a stick to the head and you think that's a good responce 😂
@@satoshischrockamoto Main idea in hockey is to score more goals than the other and how many goals will you get by crosschecking to the head?
If he cared about the team he wouldn't do something that could get him suspended. That being said, a response as warranted - not that. The take in the video is correct.
I'd have been OK with Rielly going after Greig with anything up to, and including, dropping the gloves, but a clear attempt to injure crossed the line. Greig had it coming, but "it" was not a cross check to the head. Even if had dropped his gloves, started punching Greig, and Greig just turtled (it sure looked like he would have), the game was over, and he would have gotten 5+2+game, and maybe a 1 game suspension for last five minutes (maybe not though since Greig earned it). Now he's looking at 5-10 games.
Retaliation for an amusing action (the slapper) is the equivalent of the ridiculous reactions dictated by the “unspoken rules” in baseball.
It is very much like Bautista getting punched over a bat flip.
I played amateur hockey for years and if a team did that to my team he would pay eventually. One way or another. Hockey is a violent game and anyone who says otherwise hasn't played the game.
When you say "amateur" hockey, do you mean "road" or "tabletop".
@@RememberMe123-b4b Ice hockey in an organized league or house league and I was called up to the Humber Valley EHA team as a kid. I was far too small 5' 2" and not serious enough for further hockey related careers. Raised in Toronto.
Maybe he was just practicing a shot he recently saw being done at the All Star skills challenge, but without the corner targets.
Modern NHL fanbase is softer than a softies ice cream 🍦
Grieg laid out the bait and Rielly took it. Well played, Mr Grieg. Well played.
well said Johnny, so many people forget its possible for two things to be true at the same time
Shouldn't have done the clapper, shouldn't have done the cross-check to the larynx. LMAO
Reilly should have just punched him, but a cross-check to the face is an unacceptable regardless of the situation that lead to it. Did Grieg break the code? Yeah, did he deserve to get punched? sure, did he deserve a cross-check to the face? No, hell no.
Would you say the same thing if Marchand did that to the Leafs?
Exactly how I feel
@@Oldmanflyfishing nah, hed say Marchand deserved to be boarded and taken out on a stretcher, because Loafs fans have brain damage
I think you’re right. Both sides are at fault here. Greig shouldn’t have taken a slap shot on an empty net, that’s just basic sportsmanship. But Reilly could’ve just yelled at him and not cross checked him.
Greg can score a goal however the hell he wants. There's nothing wrong with that and it never will be.. Riley is a coward, plain and simple. A real man would drop the gloves, not cheap shot and unsuspecting opponent in the head..
@@neilsunstrum933 He can score however he wants. He also then has to deal with the consequences. Too aggressive of a response, but a response was warranted. Pretending one wasn't is just ridiculous.
@@neilsunstrum933 taking an overly aggressive slap shot on a net you can easily just tap the puck in is a textbook example of poor sportsmanship. Reilly absolutely had a right to retaliate, albeit not as aggressive as he did.
@@KS-xk2so no ridiculous is making up rules based on your feelings lmao. 🤣
@@neilsunstrum933 no one said anything about rules based on feelings. The entire point is that Greig’s taking a slap shot towards an empty net is just plain and simply poor sportsmanship. Reilly does get most of the blame here for being too aggressive with his response, but Greig isn’t completely innocent. He could’ve just tapped the puck into the net and the goal would’ve counted all the same. Taking a slap shot when you don’t need to is just disrespectful to your opponents and to the game
It’s wild, they were talking about him being a Byng contender this year until he got a penalty called on him, and he didn’t even do it, they got the wrong guy lol
It’s almost like he’s pissed about that and just said eff it. That was out of character for him
Clean hit from Rielly, gotta keep your head up making plays like that, even Giroux eluded to it post-game. Only reason Rielly is gonna get the book thrown at him is because it's the Leafs and they're known for being soft, if this was either of the Tkachuk teams it would a 5k fine and it would be left at that.
"Emotions were high and things like that happen"... I've watched Giroux's interview... he didn't condemn Grieg.
Anyone who thinks that wasn't a dirty hit is an idiot.
looks like the Leafs pride is on the LTIR
Greig did it at home with all the leafs fans watching. Sure it was uncalled for, but it’s the biggest middle finger to leafs fans from the other Ontario team. But a cross check to the face not the way to go.
Take the Canucks, during the all star game, goalie snub. What happens, back to work and the bruins teach the Canucks a lesson in humility. That’s what the leafs need to do next season when they play the sens for the first time.
I wouldn't even say it's uncalled for. You can score anyway you want.
Code or not, the clapper was AWESOME. Ottawa is 3-1 vs Toronto in this season series. It was their first game since all star break and they sent a message. Of course Greig knew it was coming. But who expects to be crosschecked in the face?
What's the message? Get ready for us in the playoffs? LMFAO Sens are a bottom barrel team Leafs dont give a fuck when playing them, nobody does.