The Mick Foley clip gets so much worse after those two falls. There's a point where Mick has what looks like a booger hanging out of his nose, but in fact it was one of his teeth that had gotten knocked out of his skull and bashed up into his nose through his lip. I watched an interview where they both talked about this match and the aftermath of it. It's absolutely unreal that Mick kept on going after everything that he had been through. Undertaker was just begging him to stop and call it a night.
In regards to Cody and how the WWE let him do this, apparently, according to the man himself, he and the match producers asked the doctors if it was still possible to do the match. They stared at him in confused horror and said "Well, the injury *literally* cannot get any worse. It is entirely torn and separated, whatever happens it can't get worse. So...I guess????"
It was also the week of the PPV. The guy either the dry ice HHH or Paul runs it now and he blew both quads He’s a big fan. So kind of inspired him. Then after the PPV he went and got the surgery. Cody says he couldn’t watch it. There is one bump in particular that he said he almost threw up and past out. It was metal but uncomfortable AF. Taking a bump is like getting hit in car crash going 30 mph. He deserves the title. 😂
@@jodinovotny1985there is dangers everywhere and actually the doctors and staff has gotten Way better than it use to be. Stuff happens. My son is a pitcher he can get a hard hit ball and take it to the face. Am I bad for letting him pitch or…. I’m his coach. Not just him but what if it’s another person or say NFL and someone’s finger is bent after a play. Sports is physical and you can get hurt. The dangers to Cody though were already done. It just looked awful. It made the audience feel uncomfy but actually that is what made it brilliant. Especially since the fan base is young. It’s like “hey we are for real our guys are hurt” I banned Hulk from my house when my son was little. He’s 13 now. Just because he thought Hulk monster and the fantasy of it.
There was more with the Mick Foley Hell in a Cell. The chair he fell through the cage with hit him in the head/face, and his tooth went through his mouth. The things he put his body through in his career is insane. And the fact he’s actually an intelligent and well spoken author just makes it even crazier. Massive respect for Mick.
Not to mention before getting into the WWE(F at the time) he fought on some questionable circuits, where they used barbed wire as the ring barrier! He’s a marvel for sure!!!!
ohhhh you don't know the half of it, in WCW he used to do a "nestea plunge" where he would literally fall on his back on concrete, in the Japan he used to mess around with explosives, he got his face set on fire by Terry funk.
Last time I saw him on TV he did NOT look healthy... I honestly hope that he is as comfortable as possible, given all the injuries he's had in his career. Very funny, intelligent man. Love his books.
The knee injury mentioned used to be a career ending injury not too long ago, it is amazing how much Medical Science has advanced so that they can continue their career after recovery.
As a ballet dancer who partially tore her meniscus and mcl, and fully tore her acl in June and is still recovering, I’m very grateful for modern medicine too haha
6:49 the ref held her hand to see if she can squeeze his fingers, this way he'd know if she can continue the match. Sort of like a secret signal. But the hair pulling afterwards was absolutely insane, given she was completely knocked out cold. Tough sport.
I remember in an interview with the Undertaker, he said when the cage caved and Mick fell through, he thought Mick was dead. The sheer will to get back up TWICE after falling off the top of the cell is legendary. Mick Foley is an icon.
Yes that is Mr. Foley’s two biggest bumps in the cage with the UnderTaker but let’s remember he’s been in wrestling a long time. First match was in 1983 and he’s taking a lot of bumps since then as Cactus Jack , Dude Love and Mankind. Hell , Foley was in Germany wrestling Vader and performed the hangman where he twisted his head and neck in the ropes and he’s hanging by his neck. When he finally got out it ripped his ear off ! What’s also amazing about Mick Foley. He walks unassisted and gets up out of a chair with little hesitation for what he has put his body through and now a man of 58 years old….. And maybe , just maybe more than an Icon. At one time the fans used to hold up signs that read “Foley is God”
People also fail to remember they put on weekly shows. It's not one big fight they train for months and then recover for months after. Also, I think WWE still calls them contractors so they give them no or shitty insurance? But maybe that has since changed. Hopefully.
@@AbbeyMarieEsp They get full term sheets with medical and such. Any work they need to have done, rehab, etc, is paid for by WWE. They pay their talent pretty well nowadays.
i would love to see a part 2 to this, there are many more injuries from WWE that I want to see Mike's opinions on (IE: Psycho Sid's leg, Finn Bálor's shoulder or even his recent head injury, both of Vince's quads, Randy Orton at Summerslam 2016, etc)
Awesome episode for a wrestling fan like me. Dr. Mike mentions not knowing how they can tell legit injuries during the Candice Michelle injury. It actually shows Candice not squeezing the refs hand. He also alludes to that being the finish with the pin versus a let’s finish this and get her help moment. Additionally with the Bret concussion it doesn’t show him hitting the ring post which dazed Bret preventing him from actually blocking Goldberg’s kick.
In addition to the ref checking, the wrestlers in the ring will check on each other to make sure if the injured one wants to continue or end it. You can see in the Candice clip right before the pin she is speaking.
Yes the ref or the other wrestler(s) involved usually check on the injured wrestler and "call an audible" if something is wrong. You could also see the ref crossing his arms in the Randy Orton clip which is a sign for the back that someone needs medical attention.
I was appreciating this one, too. I’m sure that good DoctorMike didn’t know some of the after-the-fact details: Goldberg’s flubbed superkick essentially ending Bret’s career, and Owen’s flubbed tombstone piledriver shortening Steve’s. They could also have shown some, like Droz’ neck injury from a minor D.Lo Brown botch, that instantly ended careers (Droz is quadriplegic), or even LIVES (Mitsuharu Misawa died in the ring after a spinal injury from a routine back supplex, one of many THOUSAND that he had successfully sustained during his long career in Japan)
@@DeeEllEff Not a Tombstone. It's a sitdown. The technique is a little different. With a Tombstone, you can use your knees to brace your opponent's neck and head. There are so many horrifying injuries. I think there's more than one comp by the guy that did this one. He might visit them.
Also that X sign the ref did around 9:17 after Randy dislocated his shoulder to signal a serious injury and that he can't continue wrestling. Love this, I'm really glad I found this video, I mean WWE and medical analysis that's like fireworks for me ❤✨
5:57 it's worth mentioning that this kick not only ended Bret harts career, but changed his life permanently. To this day he suffers with concussion issues.
Since then, he became the biggest Goldberg-hater in the world. He would use every opportunity to insult Goldberg. "Oh, yes, the waffles were perfect. Do you know who is horrible with waffles? Goldberg, horrible in-ring and horrible making waffles!"
@@rishisaaptacha he talked about why that happened in a podcast a while ago, the doctors medically cleared him because at the time concussion protocol wasn't nearly as refined as it is today. People didn't understand how serious it was, neither did he, if he decided to take time off willingly, he'd likely have been fired.
Cody Rhodes's torn pec might be the grossest injury I've ever seen a wrestler deal with but the fact that he made the decision to wrestle with it just shows how gutsy of a guy he is as well as how insane he is as a person. All for the love of the sport I guess.
Cody Rhodes is a consummate professional. "The show must go on," and all that. But what they don't touch on is how Seth Rollins took very good care of Cody during the match. Cody was suffering, but according to interviews from both sides, the match looked far more painful that it really was.
Candice Michelle's injury was super rough. She was just starting to breakout as a wrestler rather than just a "manager" or eye-candy. And she got really good really quickly and then this injury forced her to retire all together. Definitely a sad instance. She was the one who fell off the top rope and broke her collarbone:/
@@Rocker4JCforeverWell she was told by the ref to pull her to middle and the ref got an earful from the boss (Vince McMahon) about it as soon as they got back backstage. Prior wrestlers had always finished matches no matter what cause you couldn’t get them to stop. However this incident led to them stopping matches immediately, especially when concussions are involved. Also, apparently Candice had been partying hard all week prior to the match and wasn’t in her right mind causing her not to fall properly and cause her injury so a lot went wrong.
@RODley Pumpkins it's the same as how there are dancers of different skill levels. Like in dancing, there are techniques that are more dangerous and require more skill to execute. More skilled wrestlers are able to execute a repertoire of more dangerous and more visually pleasing techniques in their matches, and so are able to perform "better" more entertaining matches for the fans. Candice Michelle started out relying purely on her sex appeal to entertain. But before she had that injury, she was making leaps and bounds in developing her wrestling technique and was on the verge of being known as more than a "model first, wrestler second." It's very unfortunate
@@Bobbacuda I will admit that some of these moves if not all of them take a level of skill and technique specially the aerial stuff. But it’s all fake to me it’s choreographed and the winner is pre decided. It’s like watching a circus act. I come from a real wrestling background. All the moves are real and take real technique. Your actually wrestling people who are actively trying to beat you. Nothing is pre decided. And no one is dressed up like it’s Halloween. Or cage fighting also very real. Those are real kicks and punches and wrestling moves. REAL. At any rate I hope Candice heals well and can get back to this circus act.
Mick is actually donating his brain after death for study into CTE. This stuff is scripted, but accidents happen as with Cena's nose and stuff can go south. Mick is just the toughest guy in the room with an iron will and determination to entertain at his own risk. And a really awesome guy in person too. The guys in WCW knew they were going to lose the Monday Night War after that Hell in the Cell
scripted doesnt mean fake, and stiff wrestlers exist. not every injury is an accident, but a result of real connection. Mick, i have no idea how he doesnt have an anger issue or etc. dudes head has been smacked around like crazy. glad hes doing that so they have a decent non-drug abuser brain to compare to. love mick, but absolutely hate his politics.
@@threestans9096 what do you mean. Foley was never known for politicing. He's not Hogan or HBK. The only drama I can even think of where he pulled rank was when he forced Vince to give him that sled to fly away in. But he didn't refuse to put any over or something. I think you have your wrestling history mixed up. Foley was never a politician in the locker room. He mostly did as he was told.
Another one that would be good to check out is Tegan Nox's knee injury during the Mae Young Classic. Unlike Paul only needing rehab, her knee basically exploded on the inside. She was out for over a year.
Doctor, PLEASE, make this a series for Wrestling Injuries. There's PLENTY of them. I can share you a dozen alone that I think EVERYONE would love to know your two cents about.
@rabidslurpy and the chokeslam on the thumb tacks. But the worst part is that it's just scratching the surface of this madman. I remember when HHH pedigreed him on thumb tacks (face first)
@@rabidslurpy shot thru his lip and lodged itself in the side of his nose. so gross
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Had consistent pain in my side after bending to far forward. I went to the doctor a few days layer, and they said it was torn muscle (they never specified which muscle, but my best guess is the anterior serratus). That was months ago and it still hurts from time to time. Make sure to stay active and stretch!
You need to interview Mick Foley, the guy that got thrown off and through the cage. You could make a video alone on how many injuries that he has obtained throughout his career.
Honestly, mick’s been thru so many things both figuratively and LITERALLY On another note I’m surprised they didn’t show his tooth that penetrated his top tooth as a result of being thrown thru the cage, unless that was another instance
That wasn't what made made me cringe with Foley-it was the Rock continuously whacking him in the skull with a chair while he was handcuffed. I had to turn away.
Lots of true wrestling fans could talk for hours on end with Mike about this, and give a ton of behind the scenes to go over what they do if someone gets hurt in the ring.
Watching the lady get dragged was so hard to watch though. I'm not sure how all of that resulted, but the lady that fell wasn't moving. You immediately think spinal. And to watch her get picked up by her hair and dragged was absolutely terrifying.
As a massive wrestling fan, not only can I tell you what they do when someone legitimately gets hurt in the ring, but I can also tell you how they find out that a wrestler's hurt in the first place.
I have degenerative disc disease and osteoarthritis through L 1 and S1 of my spine. I absolutely hate physical exams when doctors press on where it hurts.
I have a friend who always uses a great analogy i think when it comes to Cody wrestling with a torn pec: "It's like driving drunk, just because you can, doesnt mean you should."
Every single match I remember of Mick Foley has always been insane, no matter what he has been through. If the man can still move, the match isn't over half the time. He's insane.
Hey, Mike. To answer your question on how the referees tell if the wrestlers are selling or actually injured, you'll notice after a big spot (going through a table, falling off a ladder, etc.) or something that looks like a real injury, that the ref will always go up to them and put their hand in the wrestler's hand. If the wrestler squeezes the ref's hand, that communicates to the ref that they're okay. If the wrestler doesn't squeeze the ref's hand, the ref will throw up an "X" sign to end the match or tel the others that the wrestler is injured. Sorry If that was hard to understand, I'm pretty bad at explaining.
This is a great explanation - I noticed in this video even one of the opponents did the hand squeeze check as soon as they finished the move and the other injured guy was unresponsive.
Knee injuries are common in wrestling, this is why a lot of wrestlers wear multiple knee paddings, knee pads, layered knee wraps etc, it's harder to move in them but gives their knee that extra protection. Also most of their practice is on how to land properly while doing their moves, stunts, falls etc. But Mick Foley is a different kind of animal altogether.
Yeah you see a lot of wrestlers wear these big metal knee braces. Stone Cold Steve Austin was famous for needing them just to be able to walk and run around the ring. Hulk Hogan also used them for the last few years of his career, painted red and yellow of course lol. And yeah while some of the things wrestlers wear is purely aesthetic, a lot of it really has real practical purposes. Like the kind of boots they wear, they mainly need boots in the first place as opposed to something like basketball sneakers, because it keeps their angle straight, so that they don't land on it wrong and sprain it. It's just a thick boot that gives stability to the whole joint. And some wrestlers even go beyond that, like Shawn Michaels was always known for wearing motocross boots, which were even thicker and sturdier than regular wrestling boots, I think they have metal inside them, cos they're meant to give stability and assurance to people on motorcycles doing big leaps in the air and potentially landing on their feet from 10-15ft up in the air. Mind you, some wrestlers DO wear basketball sneakers, like John Cena for example, and some wrestlers don't wear any kind of footwear at all, like Yokozuna and other Samoan wrestlers like him. They are more at risk of spraining an ankle than guys who wear the thick boots, but it's ultimately a personal choice. If they don't mind the risk, then it's fine, cos it's not like there's a uniform requirement like there is in, say, MMA. And a lot of guys wrap up their hands/wrists with boxing tape like boxers do, they just don't put boxing gloves on over the top at that point cos it's impossible to wrestle with boxing gloves on. Because while they aren't setting out to deliberately hurt one another, they do pretty much still punch each other, they make contact, with some guys doing so more than others (which is called working "stiff", where they make their punches look as real as possible, by actually making the punches real, not full out trying to hit them as hard as possible, but still making contact, to the point where guys do get hurt from them often). So they tape up their wrists for the same reason boxers do, because if you punch someone and your wrist flops about, you cnw sprain your wrist and it can be sore for weeks and prevent you from wrestling for a while, so they wrap the tape around their wrists to give it stability and keep it straight and strong. But yeah probably most of what wrestlers wear is just aesthetic only. Like Ric Flair always used to wear "knee" pads around his calves, instead of over his knees, leaving his knees completely bare. This was purely because he was embarrassed about his very skinny calves and so wore the knee pads to make them look much more thicc
I remembered watching a clip a while back from a wrestling documentary in the late 90s(?) featuring Terry Funk where it showed his life "post-retirement" which included him going to doctors who told him that his knee was essentially gone only for Funk to immediately ask him will he ever be able to wrestle again. Funk would then wrestle for an ECW PPV a week later & would continue to wrestle in some degrees up until 2017 after going in-and-out of retirement 7-9 times throughout his 50 year wrestling career before finally passing away back in August at 79.
@@syahmikadira6832 that was the documentary film Beyond The Mat that you're talking about, which is a much watch for everybody, not just wrestling fans, because it's that damn good, and it's incredibly eye opening for the people who think they're smart by constantly just saying "UmMm dOn't yOu kNoW, tHaT WrEsTlInG Is fAkE!?!?" as if there's any wrestling fans in the world who don't already know that. It's pre determined, yeah, but people still get hurt, and hurt bad, all the time. Like if I remember right, Beyond The Mat has a section about the wrestler known as Droz. He became completely paralysed from the neck down because of a botch that happened in a match against D'Lo Brown (a "botch" is a mistake, that often ends up hurting one or both wrestlers involved, examples would be for instance giving someone a pile driver, but when holding them upside down they slip a little bit and so you actually do jam their head and neck into the mat which you're not supposed to actually do if you want to give a safe piledriver. This is what happened to Stone Cold Steve Austin where Owen Hart botched a piledriver, and Austin landed on his head hard, and it broke his neck, which led to his very early retirement only a few years later, because even after the neck had healed, there was so much nerve damage that he could no longer feel his feet and hands). Anyway yeah, for all those idiots, they should try talking to Droz and tell him "wrestling is fake", then they'd quickly find out how real it actually is. His quadriplegia isn't fake, it's completely real, sadly. And actually, he died this year anyway, at only age 54, because of complications from being completely paralysed. But yeah anyway, watch the documentary Beyond The Mat, because it's brilliant, it's amazing. They talk with Terry Funk about this exact thing for a big chunk of the documentary, about how he'd already by that point "retired" and then unretired like a dozen times, and at one point in the film he says this retirement will definitely be his final retirement and that he's never coming back again, but then at the very end of the documentary there's some text on the screen saying that Terry Funk has, of course, come out of retirement yet again. I think that's how they revealed that, anyway, it's been years since I've watched it myself. But I think I'm gonna watch it again today because discussing it has made me want to see it again. Definitely give it a watch. As well as covering the career of Terry Funk, they also go over the careers of people like Mick Foley and The Rock. Even today, it's still one of the most amazing sources of the behind the scenes of the WWF. You see stuff that even today we never see, even though these days the WWE has made many behind the scenes documentaries of their own, even despite that, Beyond The Mat is still absolutely fascinating. Download and watch it today, OK?
The one where the girl got dragged then pinned, that was meant to end the match right away so they could get help out there. It happens in a lot of matches with injuries. There are three main stages of getting hurt in wrestling. Stage 1) You power through and finish the match how its supposed to go. This is twisted ankle, a cut, maybe broken finger type of injuries normally. Though some wrestlers are freaking insane with what they insist on powering through. Stage 2) is the "Im too hurt to go on but am aware, lets do a fast pin and get me to the doctor" type of injury, A hurt knee, torn pectoral, non major broken bone. They are too injured to keep going but they are able to call the end of the match on the spot. Stage 3) Is the rare time you will see the ref make an X symbol with his arms. Its a signal to stop right now, get a stretcher, and RUN to the ring. The wrestler is screaming in pain, knocked right out, or there is a clear neck injury, that sort of thing. They cant risk finishing the match, there is something critically and clearly wrong. Thankfully those last ones are fairly rare. These athletes train CONSTANTLY to avoid such injuries and minimize risk. A great followup video would be a collection of times wrestlers saved each other in the ring from great injury. You could cover the likely result if they hadnt obviously moved in to save the day. You will see some amazing work as the best wrestlers are able to make it happen while not breaking kayfabe. They can literally catch someone about to land on their head from the top rope and make it look like they accidentally stumbled into the botch and broke their fall, that sort of thing.
With the collar bone injury, she probably shouldn’t have dragged her by the arms, but she didn’t know that at the time and was clearly trying to move her to a safer position and then end the match ASAP with a non-violent pin so they could get help right away.
@@imansingian1372 The Hell in a Cell? Yeah, that was pre-air bag era. That was before they had the modern, 4 piece tables that are designed to explode on impact. It was just tables that they gimmicked some of the supports out of to make them easier to break. So Mick flying through that, from 16+ feet in the air, he knew that was going to be a rough landing. That was a planned spot though, which is why Mick fell the way he did. He positioned himself as safely as he could to take that bump. It's the chokeslam through the roof that was the bad one. That wasn't planned. That panel wasn't supposed to give. He just went through straight onto his back. That's the impact that I think gave him the concussion that made him forget the entire match happening. For sure that's the impact that pushed his tooth through his nose
@@princealigorna7468 yet enough its still a brutal match but WrestleMania 32 happened again but this time shane just jump off with any hesitations but yet enough still a good match
For the Mick Foley clip, the first fall off the cell was planned and the table he landed on was designed to collapse easily to cushion his fall a bit (still really hurt obviously) the drop through the cell roof was not supposed to happen, it was just meant to be a chokeslam on the mesh. After the event The Undertaker (Mick's opponent) apparently told him he thought he'd killed mick.
@@History_Nurd But that means that the first one was planned. Not directly from WWE or Vince McMahon but from Foley who then convinced Taker to do it. But the second one was not supposed to happen.
Actually, both were planned. They were expecting the cage roof to merely buckle so he could roll down to the floor safely. Foley, however, ended up destroying the roof and falling like a sack of hammers, which was not planned.
For the collarbone injury the other girl probably didn't realize she was that injured, but probably realized a second after she started to drag her. Going for the tap-out right then and ending the match I think proves that. Wrestlers have a lot of signals and whatnot in the ring to keep the suspension of disbelief for the audience.
She actually had to retire from that collarbone injury, sadly. The referee should have stopped the match, they all have the power to do so, for real. If someone is legitimately injured, they throw up their arms in a big "X" sign and the medics and doctors come down to the ring and stretcher them out of there. If they'd done that instead of dragging her and pinning her, then maybe Candace Michelle wouldn't have been forced to retire. It's a shame really. I don't think it's Beth Phoenix's fault necessarily, she probably didn't know what to do, or thought Candace Michelle was more OK than she actually was, and most of time when anything like this happens, the wrestler does panic and doesn't really know what to do (like look at the time Seth Rollins injured Sting with a buckle bomb and pretty much ended Sting's career, sort of (he still kinda wrestles these days, just always in tag matches and he doesn't take loads of bumps or anything), Seth Rollins was clearly panicking after that happened, or for another example look at when Owen Hart broke Steve Austin's neck). Really the ref should have immediately gone over to Candace and asked her if she was OK, and chosen to end the match there and then. Yeah, it can look kind of awkward when they do that because it's immediately breaking the 4th wall and ending the scripted part of the show and treating the injury as a real one, because it IS a real injury. But wrestling fans don't want to see wrestlers genuinely hurt, it's not like they'd complain about the storyline being prematurely ended due to an accident, they'd simply want them to be OK and healthy, that's the only important thing there. As to why the ref didn't just end the match for real, and throw up the X sign, who knows. The refs all have earpieces in their ears that allow them to hear everyone backstage and talk with them, so he could have very easily and quickly got the real paramedics to come out with a stretcher. Better safe than sorry.
I was legit pissed at Beth as to how she handled Candice's injury for years but during Beth's Hall of Fame speeches she thanked Candice and the camera showed Candice crying tears of joy. So I thought if Candice is ok with Beth then why am I mad at her? So I just let my anger go.
@@duffman18 You can see that ref did go to Candice and squeezed her hand. This is a common subtle safety signal. The ref (sometimes partner/opponent) squeezes the hand of someone that took a big bump. If the wrestler can continue, they squeeze the ref's hand in response. Candice did not respond to the hand squeeze so he knew she was out and told Beth to pin her right away to end the match. Nobody at the time realized her collarbone was broken as well, hence dragging Candice to make the pin easier, but making the injury worse.
The last guy is Mick Foley one of the most extreme wrestling back in the days. He's missing several teeth,an ear and had several concussion. He's probably broken a few bone idk remember and I believe he has a bad hip. He's the go to guy to point at when people don't take wrestling serious other then some wrestlers who literally died or are paralyzed from the neck down.
He broke his nose and orbital bone in a match with Leon "Big Van Vader" White (rip) when he told him to legit punch him in his face and body Leon was a 400 lb man who also was a street boxer in his youth , Foley told him not to hold back
A few things to note for those that don’t know. In the video with Randy Orton dislocating his shoulder, you can see the ref making an “x”. That means it’s a legit injury and not a “work” (fake). Generally speaking, those matches will get stopped or rushed to a finish for the health and safety of the performers. Also, anytime any spot (move) is done and it looks like a potential injury, the ref or other wrestlers will check on them. Typically it’s a squeeze of a finger to let the other person know that they are ok. Looked worse than it was, etc… just here to inform!
My cousin is involved in the more local professional wrestling scene. He used to just be a wrestler, but now mostly sticks to organizing and setting up stuff. He had to take a long break because they had an accident with a chair, it was supposed to be a fake hit over the head, but something happened. It hit him fully in the head, causing a bad concussion and lacerations to his head. He ended up with several stitches and staples in his skull and having to take almost a full year off until his was medically cleared.
He took a direct hit to the back? I’m sorry. So you hit the back it’s self. To protect the head. You only hit the head when the guys facing you. So if we are facing each other that is when they give a head shot. Other wise it’s all back. You can take the chair tip and put it against the chest and “fake” like it’s on the throat but it’s not. Sounds like the guy that gave the shot didn’t know proper way. Hopefully someone corrected him because indies are crazy.
I can't imagine people doing this every single week. A single slip and you're dead or paralysed. I'm surprised they don't make retirement mandatory at 40.
@@dukes1993724why at least WWE they have a strict blood or color as they call it rule and chairs is something they don’t do unless it goes up the chain of command. AEW is a combination of ECW and WCW and they do not seem to care as much. When my oldest got into it and bringing me back I checked it out. Put moms mind at ease lol
There is a reason we watch these people when we know it's "fake". These people are legendary. I remember that cage match with Foley and the Undertaker, it was batshit crazy.
The thing they didn’t mention is that after Mankind (Mick Foley) got slammed through the cage, that chair fell on his face and knocked him out, also causing a concussion, a dislocated jaw, and getting several teeth knocked out. Additional injuries from that match include internal bleeding, bruised ribs, a dislocated shoulder, internal bleeding, and puncture wounds.
You could do an entire episode on Mick Foleys career. How that man is still alive, we may never know. He's lost teeth, ears, had concussions, been on fire, been thrown into barbed wire, been hit with chairs, fallen off cages. Dwayne Johnson once hit him in the head, unprotected, with a chair 19 times once. If you can think of an injury, Mick's had it. Amazing that he's still alone, let alone healthy. He's a medical marvel.
I think he's like the Jackie Chan of wrestling. He's probably broken every single bone and had almost every single injury to his body probably twice over.
@@shioriryukaze I don’t think Jackie Chan gets seriously injured much at all actually. He does have occasional things like maybe breaking an ankle or a concussion, but he gets seriously injured very rarely. The man knows what he’s doing lol
he sounds like he's more scar tissue than human at this point (also mick foley = mankind, right? there's a redditor named shittymorph that always transitions his comments into "...nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell, plummeting sixteen feet through an announcer's table")
@@stellarae8257 I had to look it up because I was curious. Apparently he's broken every single bone in his body, some more than once. He had a movie that he was in 1979 that almost killed him. He suffered six injuries I think at the time. I remember a movie where he was jumping from The bridge to a moving boat and he landed wrong and broke his leg in three spots. He was sliding down chords that had light bulbs in them and he suffered burns and cuts to his hands, His arms, his fingers and his face. They both have suffered a lot for their art...
What's scary, especially for much older wrestlers, is how some will say they've "only" had x-number of concussions diagnosed, but admit they've had a lot more that were never looked at or taken care of.
I started wrestling in the early '00s and lost track of my "likely" concussion count before I left training. really it's most wrestlers, it's just the longer they've been in the more profound that realization becomes and the more time they have to come to terms with the idea of what they've done to themselves. was in when the Benoit tragedy happened and it made me face that all at once. my brain has been signed off to the Legacy Concussion Foundation when I go. encourage everybody in to take care of your head stuff, because you can fall back on a plan B with most other types of injury, but without your brain you're not you anymore.
Scripted does not equal fake. These people actually hurt each other, especially when they're closer to the fans. HBKs slaps are one hell of an example.
Hey Doc! Most matches are predetermined with a winner, and some of the events in the match are planned, choreographed and rehearsed, but some of it are decided and made on the spot as well. To be clear, both the throw to the table and chokeslam on the cage roof were planned by both wrestlers, what they didn't account for was the cage roof giving out.
Watching this video just proves how much wrestlers sacrifice for their passion. It's not just about being physically fit, but also having a strong mentality to push through injuries. As someone who's been a fan of wrestling for years, I have a deep respect for these athletes. And Dr. Mike, thank you for providing your medical insights on these injuries, it's really interesting to see how far medical science has come to help these wrestlers continue their careers.
Its not passion, either that or become irrelevant/fired, and then when you get fucked for the rest of your life because of the injuries you are on your own because your are a contractor due to the most ridiculous labor laws that WWE lobbied to get in place, you are enjoying people ruining their lives on slave-like employment.
That Mick Foley one was nuts. Some idiot used plastic zip tied to hold thr cage togethrr inatead of metal ties. He easnt supposed to fall through the cage. Undertaker said later that he honestly thought he was dead.
Thanks for covering this topic, Mike. As a WWE fan we have so much respect for the wrestlers put their bodies on the line every time they step into the ring and while it might be scripted, things can go wrong in the blink of an eye.
As for when Undertaker threw Mick Foley off the side of the cage into the announce table, the only three people that knew what was going to happen before it did were the two of them and Vince McMahon. Even the announcer barely made it out of the way in time because he never expected them to do something that crazy. I recommend watching the video that Mick and Taker did recently where they sat own and watched the match together. I believe it's on the official WWE page
Randy Orton has suffered repeated shoulder problems his entire career due to have hypermobility in his shoulders, which is why something pretty simple like pounding the mat with his fists can often lead to injury for him.
In the same match where Mick Foley was thrown of the top of the cage, he lost one of his teeth and when the camera gets a close up on him, you can see it lodged in his nose
As a wrestling fan, the Candice Michelle injury where Mike is asking how they continue would have happened in the early 2000s, I think it was 2008 from a quick google, so wrestling was JUST starting to really learn about concussions and calling matches off. If the same thing happened today, the match definitely would have been called off and help called to the ring quickly. Nowadays, when there is a bad spot you will see the ref check on them, and sometimes even have medical teams come out and check on them. For example even at this years Wrestlemania (biggest event for WWE) there was a match that stopped for refs to come out to check on Finn Balor after he took a ladder to the face. (He got stitched up and did actually finish the match, no concussion)
Didn’t Dr. Mike do a video on Hangman’s concussion from the March with Mox? Or was that a different UA-cam doctor? Based on his reaction to Bianca and Sasha, I think Dr. Mike would enjoy wrestling. I’m wondering if he watches? Or does the videos because wrestling fans are rabid for content. 😂
I Reacted To More Wrestling Injuries -> ua-cam.com/video/TK6hWcRD6tk/v-deo.html
Just watch Combat Zone Wrestling. It's a doctors nightmare.
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The Mick Foley clip gets so much worse after those two falls. There's a point where Mick has what looks like a booger hanging out of his nose, but in fact it was one of his teeth that had gotten knocked out of his skull and bashed up into his nose through his lip. I watched an interview where they both talked about this match and the aftermath of it. It's absolutely unreal that Mick kept on going after everything that he had been through. Undertaker was just begging him to stop and call it a night.
Doesn't taker have broken ankle too
@@barfy4751he did in fact, that’s why he barely did anything apart from direct mick to where he was throwing himself
In regards to Cody and how the WWE let him do this, apparently, according to the man himself, he and the match producers asked the doctors if it was still possible to do the match. They stared at him in confused horror and said "Well, the injury *literally* cannot get any worse. It is entirely torn and separated, whatever happens it can't get worse. So...I guess????"
Bruh. 💀
Cody also said there was nothing stopping him from getting into the ring
It was also the week of the PPV. The guy either the dry ice HHH or Paul runs it now and he blew both quads He’s a big fan. So kind of inspired him. Then after the PPV he went and got the surgery. Cody says he couldn’t watch it. There is one bump in particular that he said he almost threw up and past out. It was metal but uncomfortable AF.
Taking a bump is like getting hit in car crash going 30 mph. He deserves the title. 😂
then those doctors need to be sued and their licenses revoked... Dude could have lost his arm and life...
@@jodinovotny1985there is dangers everywhere and actually the doctors and staff has gotten Way better than it use to be. Stuff happens. My son is a pitcher he can get a hard hit ball and take it to the face. Am I bad for letting him pitch or…. I’m his coach. Not just him but what if it’s another person or say NFL and someone’s finger is bent after a play. Sports is physical and you can get hurt. The dangers to Cody though were already done. It just looked awful. It made the audience feel uncomfy but actually that is what made it brilliant. Especially since the fan base is young. It’s like “hey we are for real our guys are hurt” I banned Hulk from my house when my son was little. He’s 13 now. Just because he thought Hulk monster and the fantasy of it.
Wwe isn’t fake it’s staged
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EXACTLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Proof?
Thank you
@@CookieDudeeeehavent you seen people in wwe fighting and bleeding and beaking bones that happens many times
3:25 whiplash
There was more with the Mick Foley Hell in a Cell. The chair he fell through the cage with hit him in the head/face, and his tooth went through his mouth. The things he put his body through in his career is insane. And the fact he’s actually an intelligent and well spoken author just makes it even crazier. Massive respect for Mick.
not only through his mouth, it cut a hole in his lip and lodged into a nasal cavity.
He ripped an ear off
And kept wrestling through injuries
@@jimmydebus3717 technically Vader ripped it off lol
Not to mention before getting into the WWE(F at the time) he fought on some questionable circuits, where they used barbed wire as the ring barrier! He’s a marvel for sure!!!!
How Mick Foley is still alive let alone healthy is beyond amazing.....a true legend.
ohhhh you don't know the half of it, in WCW he used to do a "nestea plunge" where he would literally fall on his back on concrete, in the Japan he used to mess around with explosives, he got his face set on fire by Terry funk.
Last time I saw him on TV he did NOT look healthy... I honestly hope that he is as comfortable as possible, given all the injuries he's had in his career. Very funny, intelligent man. Love his books.
That guy is the definition of built different.
He’s very much not healthy, lot of stories coming out recently about cognitive deficits and mobility issues he’s experiencing.
Not healthy but still functioning… of which is quite astonishing
Wrestlers need to have safer like puffy jackets or something like that to help them stay safe.
0:57 that look😂
i’ll never understand how people have the strength to risk their physical health for a sport. major props to everyone in this video
I mean that’s pretty much every sport
That’s like, every sport in history.
are you asking why people play sports in general also bring back death sports
I mean they are sports like litteraly in boxing people die from punching while in nfl people get paralyzed and stuff so thats just how it goes
@@cinaranimations2983 this is not SPORT acting
The knee injury mentioned used to be a career ending injury not too long ago, it is amazing how much Medical Science has advanced so that they can continue their career after recovery.
As a ballet dancer who partially tore her meniscus and mcl, and fully tore her acl in June and is still recovering, I’m very grateful for modern medicine too haha
@@graceofspades48 hope you recover quickly and feel better than before
@@dedsec9734 aw thanks I’m coming along slowly but surely haha
@@graceofspades48dont fall to the bad side, okay?
@@ivancarlos4951 trying my best not to haha
6:49 the ref held her hand to see if she can squeeze his fingers, this way he'd know if she can continue the match. Sort of like a secret signal. But the hair pulling afterwards was absolutely insane, given she was completely knocked out cold. Tough sport.
The PAIN through the videos
I remember in an interview with the Undertaker, he said when the cage caved and Mick fell through, he thought Mick was dead. The sheer will to get back up TWICE after falling off the top of the cell is legendary. Mick Foley is an icon.
Not only to get up twice but to continue the match for another 10 minutes and get chokeslammed on thumbtacks as well.
Mick let’s go home
We haven’t done the tacks yet 😂
Can you answer in more detail?
Very interesting noticed
Yes that is Mr. Foley’s two biggest bumps in the cage with the UnderTaker but let’s remember he’s been in wrestling a long time. First match was in 1983 and he’s taking a lot of bumps since then as Cactus Jack , Dude Love and Mankind.
Hell , Foley was in Germany wrestling Vader and performed the hangman where he twisted his head and neck in the ropes and he’s hanging by his neck. When he finally got out it ripped his ear off !
What’s also amazing about Mick Foley. He walks unassisted and gets up out of a chair with little hesitation for what he has put his body through and now a man of 58 years old…..
And maybe , just maybe more than an Icon. At one time the fans used to hold up signs that read “Foley is God”
I respect people competing in WWE, staged or not they still go through it all and their stamina is on another level
People also fail to remember they put on weekly shows. It's not one big fight they train for months and then recover for months after. Also, I think WWE still calls them contractors so they give them no or shitty insurance? But maybe that has since changed. Hopefully.
@@AbbeyMarieEspWWE fully pays for their injuries
AEW
@@AbbeyMarieEsp They get full term sheets with medical and such. Any work they need to have done, rehab, etc, is paid for by WWE. They pay their talent pretty well nowadays.
Fully unrelated but, OP I highly appreciate your username and pfp
Bro the front cover looks painful bro😂
i would love to see a part 2 to this, there are many more injuries from WWE that I want to see Mike's opinions on (IE: Psycho Sid's leg, Finn Bálor's shoulder or even his recent head injury, both of Vince's quads, Randy Orton at Summerslam 2016, etc)
I will never not find it morbidly amusing that Vince managed to tear both his quads by entering the ring wrong.
Absolutely. Would also mention Enzo Amore’s concussion and Big E’s neck injury
I second the idea for a part 2. I was hoping for Psycho Sids leg to be in here.
also sabus neck injury i think
sids leg injury is nasty to watch
Awesome episode for a wrestling fan like me. Dr. Mike mentions not knowing how they can tell legit injuries during the Candice Michelle injury. It actually shows Candice not squeezing the refs hand. He also alludes to that being the finish with the pin versus a let’s finish this and get her help moment.
Additionally with the Bret concussion it doesn’t show him hitting the ring post which dazed Bret preventing him from actually blocking Goldberg’s kick.
In addition to the ref checking, the wrestlers in the ring will check on each other to make sure if the injured one wants to continue or end it. You can see in the Candice clip right before the pin she is speaking.
Yes the ref or the other wrestler(s) involved usually check on the injured wrestler and "call an audible" if something is wrong. You could also see the ref crossing his arms in the Randy Orton clip which is a sign for the back that someone needs medical attention.
I was appreciating this one, too. I’m sure that good DoctorMike didn’t know some of the after-the-fact details: Goldberg’s flubbed superkick essentially ending Bret’s career, and Owen’s flubbed tombstone piledriver shortening Steve’s. They could also have shown some, like Droz’ neck injury from a minor D.Lo Brown botch, that instantly ended careers (Droz is quadriplegic), or even LIVES (Mitsuharu Misawa died in the ring after a spinal injury from a routine back supplex, one of many THOUSAND that he had successfully sustained during his long career in Japan)
@@DeeEllEff Not a Tombstone. It's a sitdown. The technique is a little different. With a Tombstone, you can use your knees to brace your opponent's neck and head. There are so many horrifying injuries. I think there's more than one comp by the guy that did this one. He might visit them.
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII Gotcha. Is that what they call it: “the sit down”? To me, it’s stupid looking, in addition to it being riskier.
Also that X sign the ref did around 9:17 after Randy dislocated his shoulder to signal a serious injury and that he can't continue wrestling. Love this, I'm really glad I found this video, I mean WWE and medical analysis that's like fireworks for me ❤✨
When choreographed moves goes wrong....
5:57 it's worth mentioning that this kick not only ended Bret harts career, but changed his life permanently. To this day he suffers with concussion issues.
Since then, he became the biggest Goldberg-hater in the world. He would use every opportunity to insult Goldberg.
"Oh, yes, the waffles were perfect. Do you know who is horrible with waffles? Goldberg, horrible in-ring and horrible making waffles!"
Yeah, HBK knew better than to use a super kick and won with a Sharpshooter instead. Much safer.
@@calipurnioelreydelodio7141 I mean when a guy basically ruins your life because of his incompetence, I'd assume it's fair to hate the guy.
@@rishisaaptacha he talked about why that happened in a podcast a while ago, the doctors medically cleared him because at the time concussion protocol wasn't nearly as refined as it is today. People didn't understand how serious it was, neither did he, if he decided to take time off willingly, he'd likely have been fired.
He definitely had injuries building up before that. No way that kick alone ends his career
Cody Rhodes's torn pec might be the grossest injury I've ever seen a wrestler deal with but the fact that he made the decision to wrestle with it just shows how gutsy of a guy he is as well as how insane he is as a person. All for the love of the sport I guess.
Cody Rhodes is a consummate professional. "The show must go on," and all that. But what they don't touch on is how Seth Rollins took very good care of Cody during the match. Cody was suffering, but according to interviews from both sides, the match looked far more painful that it really was.
That fact that Cody got the torn pec at the gym training and not wrestling is kind of funny.
@@drulipabs idk why would you call an injury that serious funny but Internet I guess
From what I remember reading basically it was decided that he couldn’t do anymore damage to it
@Yang Xiao Long Yeah, because it was a total tear, no further damage could me inflicted to it
That old WWE warning
"Please, Do Not Try This At Home"
Candice Michelle's injury was super rough. She was just starting to breakout as a wrestler rather than just a "manager" or eye-candy. And she got really good really quickly and then this injury forced her to retire all together. Definitely a sad instance.
She was the one who fell off the top rope and broke her collarbone:/
Getting yanked by the arms after that probably made it worse. Has the wrestler who did that acknowledged it in any way, or apologized?
@@Rocker4JCforeverWell she was told by the ref to pull her to middle and the ref got an earful from the boss (Vince McMahon) about it as soon as they got back backstage. Prior wrestlers had always finished matches no matter what cause you couldn’t get them to stop. However this incident led to them stopping matches immediately, especially when concussions are involved. Also, apparently Candice had been partying hard all week prior to the match and wasn’t in her right mind causing her not to fall properly and cause her injury so a lot went wrong.
How did she get good tho? Isn’t this all choreographed and the winners are already decided?
@RODley Pumpkins it's the same as how there are dancers of different skill levels. Like in dancing, there are techniques that are more dangerous and require more skill to execute. More skilled wrestlers are able to execute a repertoire of more dangerous and more visually pleasing techniques in their matches, and so are able to perform "better" more entertaining matches for the fans.
Candice Michelle started out relying purely on her sex appeal to entertain. But before she had that injury, she was making leaps and bounds in developing her wrestling technique and was on the verge of being known as more than a "model first, wrestler second." It's very unfortunate
@@Bobbacuda I will admit that some of these moves if not all of them take a level of skill and technique specially the aerial stuff. But it’s all fake to me it’s choreographed and the winner is pre decided. It’s like watching a circus act. I come from a real wrestling background. All the moves are real and take real technique. Your actually wrestling people who are actively trying to beat you. Nothing is pre decided. And no one is dressed up like it’s Halloween. Or cage fighting also very real. Those are real kicks and punches and wrestling moves. REAL. At any rate I hope Candice heals well and can get back to this circus act.
Mick is actually donating his brain after death for study into CTE.
This stuff is scripted, but accidents happen as with Cena's nose and stuff can go south. Mick is just the toughest guy in the room with an iron will and determination to entertain at his own risk. And a really awesome guy in person too.
The guys in WCW knew they were going to lose the Monday Night War after that Hell in the Cell
they knew even harder when eric bichoff spoiled that foley was gonna beat the rock on raw, and then everyone switched channels
Foley is the nicest man in the world. He went on to become a trauma counselor
Not true
scripted doesnt mean fake, and stiff wrestlers exist. not every injury is an accident, but a result of real connection.
Mick, i have no idea how he doesnt have an anger issue or etc. dudes head has been smacked around like crazy. glad hes doing that so they have a decent non-drug abuser brain to compare to. love mick, but absolutely hate his politics.
@@threestans9096 what do you mean. Foley was never known for politicing. He's not Hogan or HBK. The only drama I can even think of where he pulled rank was when he forced Vince to give him that sled to fly away in. But he didn't refuse to put any over or something. I think you have your wrestling history mixed up. Foley was never a politician in the locker room. He mostly did as he was told.
Triple yamy lol what is that😂😂😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
6:23, im sorry it just looks too funny 😂😂
Another one that would be good to check out is Tegan Nox's knee injury during the Mae Young Classic. Unlike Paul only needing rehab, her knee basically exploded on the inside. She was out for over a year.
WWE, not AEL
Tegan Nox injured her knee twice in less than two years
@@Podgorski37 it was NXT, which is WWE.
Her knees are made of glass!
Bro he should check out owen harts fall
Doctor, PLEASE, make this a series for Wrestling Injuries. There's PLENTY of them. I can share you a dozen alone that I think EVERYONE would love to know your two cents about.
He did
I had tear my mlc. The doctor gave my crutches thats all😂
3:19 yes it’s her hair love her
For Mick's fall: The table spot was planned and went fine, the fall through the cage was not and went bad
To add to this, Mick was completely unconscious after he hit the ring. The chair that fell with him hit him in the face as he was falling
And don't forget that one of his teeth, came out of his nose.
@rabidslurpy and the chokeslam on the thumb tacks. But the worst part is that it's just scratching the surface of this madman. I remember when HHH pedigreed him on thumb tacks (face first)
@@rabidslurpy shot thru his lip and lodged itself in the side of his nose. so gross
Had consistent pain in my side after bending to far forward. I went to the doctor a few days layer, and they said it was torn muscle (they never specified which muscle, but my best guess is the anterior serratus). That was months ago and it still hurts from time to time. Make sure to stay active and stretch!
get better! Lots of love from poland ❤
Triggered my pet peeve there Mike..
It's "Battle's Sign," named after Dr. William Henry Battle
I can’t imagine how bad tearing a muscle hurts
You need to interview Mick Foley, the guy that got thrown off and through the cage. You could make a video alone on how many injuries that he has obtained throughout his career.
Honestly, mick’s been thru so many things both figuratively and LITERALLY
On another note I’m surprised they didn’t show his tooth that penetrated his top tooth as a result of being thrown thru the cage, unless that was another instance
That wasn't what made made me cringe with Foley-it was the Rock continuously whacking him in the skull with a chair while he was handcuffed. I had to turn away.
A video? As in just one? That man's got a seasons worth of content, easy.
@@gd-jvy-official IIRC it was same throw from the top onto the announce table, not the even more damaging one through the top of the cage.
He's most definitely a stud, "take a knife in the gut and come out swinging"!
Lots of true wrestling fans could talk for hours on end with Mike about this, and give a ton of behind the scenes to go over what they do if someone gets hurt in the ring.
Watching the lady get dragged was so hard to watch though. I'm not sure how all of that resulted, but the lady that fell wasn't moving. You immediately think spinal. And to watch her get picked up by her hair and dragged was absolutely terrifying.
I havnt seen something that scary since the grudge
Get super eyepatch wolf on the line.
@@bonogiamboni4830😂
As a massive wrestling fan, not only can I tell you what they do when someone legitimately gets hurt in the ring, but I can also tell you how they find out that a wrestler's hurt in the first place.
I have degenerative disc disease and osteoarthritis through L 1 and S1 of my spine. I absolutely hate physical exams when doctors press on where it hurts.
“So this is problematic because”😂😂
3:19 i and many others have had worse with the belt.
I have a friend who always uses a great analogy i think when it comes to Cody wrestling with a torn pec: "It's like driving drunk, just because you can, doesnt mean you should."
that looks very painful ngl
Yeah that happened to me I'm a gymst if I hit my head it hurt😢
Dr Mike I'm a med student you inspire me
same
Me too 😊
congrats
Every single match I remember of Mick Foley has always been insane, no matter what he has been through. If the man can still move, the match isn't over half the time. He's insane.
hey
@@EnergeticSpark63 Key Hey
@@BraydensWonderLand hey
Mick Foley = legend
was calling the hospitle tryign to find a open room
MICK FOLEY IS A LEGEND 🤣🤣🤣
Hey, Mike. To answer your question on how the referees tell if the wrestlers are selling or actually injured, you'll notice after a big spot (going through a table, falling off a ladder, etc.) or something that looks like a real injury, that the ref will always go up to them and put their hand in the wrestler's hand. If the wrestler squeezes the ref's hand, that communicates to the ref that they're okay. If the wrestler doesn't squeeze the ref's hand, the ref will throw up an "X" sign to end the match or tel the others that the wrestler is injured. Sorry If that was hard to understand, I'm pretty bad at explaining.
You did well
This is a great explanation - I noticed in this video even one of the opponents did the hand squeeze check as soon as they finished the move and the other injured guy was unresponsive.
Knee injuries are common in wrestling, this is why a lot of wrestlers wear multiple knee paddings, knee pads, layered knee wraps etc, it's harder to move in them but gives their knee that extra protection.
Also most of their practice is on how to land properly while doing their moves, stunts, falls etc.
But Mick Foley is a different kind of animal altogether.
Yeah you see a lot of wrestlers wear these big metal knee braces. Stone Cold Steve Austin was famous for needing them just to be able to walk and run around the ring. Hulk Hogan also used them for the last few years of his career, painted red and yellow of course lol.
And yeah while some of the things wrestlers wear is purely aesthetic, a lot of it really has real practical purposes. Like the kind of boots they wear, they mainly need boots in the first place as opposed to something like basketball sneakers, because it keeps their angle straight, so that they don't land on it wrong and sprain it. It's just a thick boot that gives stability to the whole joint. And some wrestlers even go beyond that, like Shawn Michaels was always known for wearing motocross boots, which were even thicker and sturdier than regular wrestling boots, I think they have metal inside them, cos they're meant to give stability and assurance to people on motorcycles doing big leaps in the air and potentially landing on their feet from 10-15ft up in the air.
Mind you, some wrestlers DO wear basketball sneakers, like John Cena for example, and some wrestlers don't wear any kind of footwear at all, like Yokozuna and other Samoan wrestlers like him. They are more at risk of spraining an ankle than guys who wear the thick boots, but it's ultimately a personal choice. If they don't mind the risk, then it's fine, cos it's not like there's a uniform requirement like there is in, say, MMA.
And a lot of guys wrap up their hands/wrists with boxing tape like boxers do, they just don't put boxing gloves on over the top at that point cos it's impossible to wrestle with boxing gloves on. Because while they aren't setting out to deliberately hurt one another, they do pretty much still punch each other, they make contact, with some guys doing so more than others (which is called working "stiff", where they make their punches look as real as possible, by actually making the punches real, not full out trying to hit them as hard as possible, but still making contact, to the point where guys do get hurt from them often). So they tape up their wrists for the same reason boxers do, because if you punch someone and your wrist flops about, you cnw sprain your wrist and it can be sore for weeks and prevent you from wrestling for a while, so they wrap the tape around their wrists to give it stability and keep it straight and strong.
But yeah probably most of what wrestlers wear is just aesthetic only. Like Ric Flair always used to wear "knee" pads around his calves, instead of over his knees, leaving his knees completely bare. This was purely because he was embarrassed about his very skinny calves and so wore the knee pads to make them look much more thicc
I remembered watching a clip a while back from a wrestling documentary in the late 90s(?) featuring Terry Funk where it showed his life "post-retirement" which included him going to doctors who told him that his knee was essentially gone only for Funk to immediately ask him will he ever be able to wrestle again. Funk would then wrestle for an ECW PPV a week later & would continue to wrestle in some degrees up until 2017 after going in-and-out of retirement 7-9 times throughout his 50 year wrestling career before finally passing away back in August at 79.
@@syahmikadira6832 that was the documentary film Beyond The Mat that you're talking about, which is a much watch for everybody, not just wrestling fans, because it's that damn good, and it's incredibly eye opening for the people who think they're smart by constantly just saying "UmMm dOn't yOu kNoW, tHaT WrEsTlInG Is fAkE!?!?" as if there's any wrestling fans in the world who don't already know that. It's pre determined, yeah, but people still get hurt, and hurt bad, all the time. Like if I remember right, Beyond The Mat has a section about the wrestler known as Droz. He became completely paralysed from the neck down because of a botch that happened in a match against D'Lo Brown (a "botch" is a mistake, that often ends up hurting one or both wrestlers involved, examples would be for instance giving someone a pile driver, but when holding them upside down they slip a little bit and so you actually do jam their head and neck into the mat which you're not supposed to actually do if you want to give a safe piledriver. This is what happened to Stone Cold Steve Austin where Owen Hart botched a piledriver, and Austin landed on his head hard, and it broke his neck, which led to his very early retirement only a few years later, because even after the neck had healed, there was so much nerve damage that he could no longer feel his feet and hands). Anyway yeah, for all those idiots, they should try talking to Droz and tell him "wrestling is fake", then they'd quickly find out how real it actually is. His quadriplegia isn't fake, it's completely real, sadly. And actually, he died this year anyway, at only age 54, because of complications from being completely paralysed.
But yeah anyway, watch the documentary Beyond The Mat, because it's brilliant, it's amazing. They talk with Terry Funk about this exact thing for a big chunk of the documentary, about how he'd already by that point "retired" and then unretired like a dozen times, and at one point in the film he says this retirement will definitely be his final retirement and that he's never coming back again, but then at the very end of the documentary there's some text on the screen saying that Terry Funk has, of course, come out of retirement yet again. I think that's how they revealed that, anyway, it's been years since I've watched it myself. But I think I'm gonna watch it again today because discussing it has made me want to see it again.
Definitely give it a watch. As well as covering the career of Terry Funk, they also go over the careers of people like Mick Foley and The Rock. Even today, it's still one of the most amazing sources of the behind the scenes of the WWF. You see stuff that even today we never see, even though these days the WWE has made many behind the scenes documentaries of their own, even despite that, Beyond The Mat is still absolutely fascinating.
Download and watch it today, OK?
Attacking the knees is also a good way to take down a giant like The Big Show.
@duffman18 Motocross boots are steel toed, and they do make shorter topped ones, they were popular a few years back.
This hurts to watch I had to loook away somthimes😮
That’s why mick foley was one of the greatest to ever do it.
The one where the girl got dragged then pinned, that was meant to end the match right away so they could get help out there. It happens in a lot of matches with injuries. There are three main stages of getting hurt in wrestling. Stage 1) You power through and finish the match how its supposed to go. This is twisted ankle, a cut, maybe broken finger type of injuries normally. Though some wrestlers are freaking insane with what they insist on powering through. Stage 2) is the "Im too hurt to go on but am aware, lets do a fast pin and get me to the doctor" type of injury, A hurt knee, torn pectoral, non major broken bone. They are too injured to keep going but they are able to call the end of the match on the spot. Stage 3) Is the rare time you will see the ref make an X symbol with his arms. Its a signal to stop right now, get a stretcher, and RUN to the ring. The wrestler is screaming in pain, knocked right out, or there is a clear neck injury, that sort of thing. They cant risk finishing the match, there is something critically and clearly wrong.
Thankfully those last ones are fairly rare. These athletes train CONSTANTLY to avoid such injuries and minimize risk. A great followup video would be a collection of times wrestlers saved each other in the ring from great injury. You could cover the likely result if they hadnt obviously moved in to save the day. You will see some amazing work as the best wrestlers are able to make it happen while not breaking kayfabe. They can literally catch someone about to land on their head from the top rope and make it look like they accidentally stumbled into the botch and broke their fall, that sort of thing.
With the collar bone injury, she probably shouldn’t have dragged her by the arms, but she didn’t know that at the time and was clearly trying to move her to a safer position and then end the match ASAP with a non-violent pin so they could get help right away.
Mick Foley's ability to take punishment was legendary. How he survived some of that stuff is still a medical mystery.
tbh i think they didn't use Air bag its just straight the table
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@@imansingian1372 The Hell in a Cell? Yeah, that was pre-air bag era. That was before they had the modern, 4 piece tables that are designed to explode on impact. It was just tables that they gimmicked some of the supports out of to make them easier to break. So Mick flying through that, from 16+ feet in the air, he knew that was going to be a rough landing. That was a planned spot though, which is why Mick fell the way he did. He positioned himself as safely as he could to take that bump.
It's the chokeslam through the roof that was the bad one. That wasn't planned. That panel wasn't supposed to give. He just went through straight onto his back. That's the impact that I think gave him the concussion that made him forget the entire match happening. For sure that's the impact that pushed his tooth through his nose
He had stamina for days as well, I remember when he came out as Dude Love, Mankind and Cactus Jack in the Royal Rumble
@@princealigorna7468 yet enough its still a brutal match but WrestleMania 32 happened again but this time shane just jump off with any hesitations but yet enough still a good match
YOU MEAN YOU CAN *DEVELOP* QUICK TIME EVENTS?!?! SICK!!
Mick Fohley is truly insane
9:17 If you ever see a WWE ref holding up an X, that's how you know a real injury happened and the X is calling for medical assistance
For the Mick Foley clip, the first fall off the cell was planned and the table he landed on was designed to collapse easily to cushion his fall a bit (still really hurt obviously) the drop through the cell roof was not supposed to happen, it was just meant to be a chokeslam on the mesh. After the event The Undertaker (Mick's opponent) apparently told him he thought he'd killed mick.
Neither were planned.
Foley had spoken with The Undertaker about 5 minutes before the match, and convinced Taker of throwing him off the roof.
@@History_Nurd But that means that the first one was planned. Not directly from WWE or Vince McMahon but from Foley who then convinced Taker to do it.
But the second one was not supposed to happen.
@@History_Nurdhe convinced him to do it therefore it was planned lol
Actually, both were planned. They were expecting the cage roof to merely buckle so he could roll down to the floor safely. Foley, however, ended up destroying the roof and falling like a sack of hammers, which was not planned.
My favorite story is Vince thanking Mick for what he just did for the company after the match, but to never do anything like that again.
BRO THE CODY RHODES WAS THE MOST PAINFUL ONE AHHHHHHHH
7:33 purple nurple
That kick actually ended Bret Hart's career and to this day hates the man who did it to him.
For the collarbone injury the other girl probably didn't realize she was that injured, but probably realized a second after she started to drag her. Going for the tap-out right then and ending the match I think proves that. Wrestlers have a lot of signals and whatnot in the ring to keep the suspension of disbelief for the audience.
She knew something was wrong with her shoulder, that’s why she pulled the right arm and hair and didn’t touch the left
thats also why she pinned her right away and ended that match
She actually had to retire from that collarbone injury, sadly. The referee should have stopped the match, they all have the power to do so, for real. If someone is legitimately injured, they throw up their arms in a big "X" sign and the medics and doctors come down to the ring and stretcher them out of there.
If they'd done that instead of dragging her and pinning her, then maybe Candace Michelle wouldn't have been forced to retire. It's a shame really. I don't think it's Beth Phoenix's fault necessarily, she probably didn't know what to do, or thought Candace Michelle was more OK than she actually was, and most of time when anything like this happens, the wrestler does panic and doesn't really know what to do (like look at the time Seth Rollins injured Sting with a buckle bomb and pretty much ended Sting's career, sort of (he still kinda wrestles these days, just always in tag matches and he doesn't take loads of bumps or anything), Seth Rollins was clearly panicking after that happened, or for another example look at when Owen Hart broke Steve Austin's neck).
Really the ref should have immediately gone over to Candace and asked her if she was OK, and chosen to end the match there and then. Yeah, it can look kind of awkward when they do that because it's immediately breaking the 4th wall and ending the scripted part of the show and treating the injury as a real one, because it IS a real injury. But wrestling fans don't want to see wrestlers genuinely hurt, it's not like they'd complain about the storyline being prematurely ended due to an accident, they'd simply want them to be OK and healthy, that's the only important thing there.
As to why the ref didn't just end the match for real, and throw up the X sign, who knows. The refs all have earpieces in their ears that allow them to hear everyone backstage and talk with them, so he could have very easily and quickly got the real paramedics to come out with a stretcher. Better safe than sorry.
I was legit pissed at Beth as to how she handled Candice's injury for years but during Beth's Hall of Fame speeches she thanked Candice and the camera showed Candice crying tears of joy. So I thought if Candice is ok with Beth then why am I mad at her? So I just let my anger go.
@@duffman18 You can see that ref did go to Candice and squeezed her hand. This is a common subtle safety signal. The ref (sometimes partner/opponent) squeezes the hand of someone that took a big bump. If the wrestler can continue, they squeeze the ref's hand in response. Candice did not respond to the hand squeeze so he knew she was out and told Beth to pin her right away to end the match. Nobody at the time realized her collarbone was broken as well, hence dragging Candice to make the pin easier, but making the injury worse.
I wanted to see your reaction to the “toothy” grin Mick gives shortly afterward.
One of the worst injuries I ever did see was when Joey Mercury got hit in the face with a ladder that did a see-saw and it dang ripped his nose off.
The last guy is Mick Foley one of the most extreme wrestling back in the days. He's missing several teeth,an ear and had several concussion. He's probably broken a few bone idk remember and I believe he has a bad hip. He's the go to guy to point at when people don't take wrestling serious other then some wrestlers who literally died or are paralyzed from the neck down.
He broke his nose and orbital bone in a match with Leon "Big Van Vader" White (rip) when he told him to legit punch him in his face and body
Leon was a 400 lb man who also was a street boxer in his youth , Foley told him not to hold back
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A few things to note for those that don’t know. In the video with Randy Orton dislocating his shoulder, you can see the ref making an “x”. That means it’s a legit injury and not a “work” (fake). Generally speaking, those matches will get stopped or rushed to a finish for the health and safety of the performers. Also, anytime any spot (move) is done and it looks like a potential injury, the ref or other wrestlers will check on them. Typically it’s a squeeze of a finger to let the other person know that they are ok. Looked worse than it was, etc… just here to inform!
Thank you for this information.
I have to say its one of the most stupid movements ever done... is it like mimicing rage or something?
Weirdly certain work Injuries get the x so Kayfabe and Reality get very muddled
Saying "shooken" just after a Grammarly ad...oh man...
My cousin is involved in the more local professional wrestling scene. He used to just be a wrestler, but now mostly sticks to organizing and setting up stuff. He had to take a long break because they had an accident with a chair, it was supposed to be a fake hit over the head, but something happened. It hit him fully in the head, causing a bad concussion and lacerations to his head. He ended up with several stitches and staples in his skull and having to take almost a full year off until his was medically cleared.
And these professionals use to take chair shots on a weekly basis. Yikes
@@dukes1993724if your AEW yes. WWE not really
He took a direct hit to the back? I’m sorry. So you hit the back it’s self. To protect the head. You only hit the head when the guys facing you. So if we are facing each other that is when they give a head shot. Other wise it’s all back. You can take the chair tip and put it against the chest and “fake” like it’s on the throat but it’s not. Sounds like the guy that gave the shot didn’t know proper way. Hopefully someone corrected him because indies are crazy.
I can't imagine people doing this every single week. A single slip and you're dead or paralysed. I'm surprised they don't make retirement mandatory at 40.
@@dukes1993724why at least WWE they have a strict blood or color as they call it rule and chairs is something they don’t do unless it goes up the chain of command.
AEW is a combination of ECW and WCW and they do not seem to care as much.
When my oldest got into it and bringing me back I checked it out. Put moms mind at ease lol
9:27 he only recognized the rock😂
There is a reason we watch these people when we know it's "fake". These people are legendary. I remember that cage match with Foley and the Undertaker, it was batshit crazy.
Because its fun its stupid and its stupid fun
Good match
I admire their charisma, the drama and the overall athleticism from these guys and they are entertaining to watch.
scripted is no fake my friend
Most of the bumps they take, are real
Yeah it was mad crazy especially when Foley’s incisor went through his nose
I STUBBED MY TOE GIMME A WHELL CHAIR!!!
The torn peck got me 7:20
The thing they didn’t mention is that after Mankind (Mick Foley) got slammed through the cage, that chair fell on his face and knocked him out, also causing a concussion, a dislocated jaw, and getting several teeth knocked out.
Additional injuries from that match include internal bleeding, bruised ribs, a dislocated shoulder, internal bleeding, and puncture wounds.
And brusied kidneys
And a tooth lodged in his nose
Wrestlers are tough. A 400-lb guy hitting them in the neck with the elbow from the top rope, and they just walk it off!
What he said about the nose thing where it like fills up whatever I think I have that😢
I really wish Mike would fully dive into the horror of that Mick Foley match. It's amazing he didn't die.
You could do an entire episode on Mick Foleys career. How that man is still alive, we may never know. He's lost teeth, ears, had concussions, been on fire, been thrown into barbed wire, been hit with chairs, fallen off cages. Dwayne Johnson once hit him in the head, unprotected, with a chair 19 times once. If you can think of an injury, Mick's had it.
Amazing that he's still alone, let alone healthy. He's a medical marvel.
I think he's like the Jackie Chan of wrestling. He's probably broken every single bone and had almost every single injury to his body probably twice over.
@@shioriryukaze I don’t think Jackie Chan gets seriously injured much at all actually. He does have occasional things like maybe breaking an ankle or a concussion, but he gets seriously injured very rarely. The man knows what he’s doing lol
he sounds like he's more scar tissue than human at this point (also mick foley = mankind, right? there's a redditor named shittymorph that always transitions his comments into "...nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell, plummeting sixteen feet through an announcer's table")
The chairs they use aren’t normal chairs. They’re designed to bend and not throughly destroy people.
@@stellarae8257 I had to look it up because I was curious. Apparently he's broken every single bone in his body, some more than once. He had a movie that he was in 1979 that almost killed him. He suffered six injuries I think at the time. I remember a movie where he was jumping from The bridge to a moving boat and he landed wrong and broke his leg in three spots. He was sliding down chords that had light bulbs in them and he suffered burns and cuts to his hands, His arms, his fingers and his face. They both have suffered a lot for their art...
What's scary, especially for much older wrestlers, is how some will say they've "only" had x-number of concussions diagnosed, but admit they've had a lot more that were never looked at or taken care of.
I started wrestling in the early '00s and lost track of my "likely" concussion count before I left training. really it's most wrestlers, it's just the longer they've been in the more profound that realization becomes and the more time they have to come to terms with the idea of what they've done to themselves. was in when the Benoit tragedy happened and it made me face that all at once. my brain has been signed off to the Legacy Concussion Foundation when I go. encourage everybody in to take care of your head stuff, because you can fall back on a plan B with most other types of injury, but without your brain you're not you anymore.
7:20 Torn pec section.
Starting to see why aliens haven't exactly rushed to make direct contact with us yet
Scripted does not equal fake. These people actually hurt each other, especially when they're closer to the fans. HBKs slaps are one hell of an example.
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Hey Doc! Most matches are predetermined with a winner, and some of the events in the match are planned, choreographed and rehearsed, but some of it are decided and made on the spot as well.
To be clear, both the throw to the table and chokeslam on the cage roof were planned by both wrestlers, what they didn't account for was the cage roof giving out.
That ganna hurt.
The way Logan looked at him 😂😂
Watching this video just proves how much wrestlers sacrifice for their passion. It's not just about being physically fit, but also having a strong mentality to push through injuries. As someone who's been a fan of wrestling for years, I have a deep respect for these athletes. And Dr. Mike, thank you for providing your medical insights on these injuries, it's really interesting to see how far medical science has come to help these wrestlers continue their careers.
Its not passion, either that or become irrelevant/fired, and then when you get fucked for the rest of your life because of the injuries you are on your own because your are a contractor due to the most ridiculous labor laws that WWE lobbied to get in place, you are enjoying people ruining their lives on slave-like employment.
Im a pro wrestler in ga I have had 2 broken ribs and torn muscle all in one night we do it cause we love our fans
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And people call it fake lmao
PASSION? GTFOH. This is about money and narcissism. Nothing else.
Bro the torn pech scares me to death😅
1:07 that stare 🫣🫣🫣
3:35 " because it didn't penetrate her body, it didn't go through her organs", dr. mike being kinda sus lately🤨🤨😂😂
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As a pro wrestler I really appreciate the fact you covered these injuries.
My bullshit detector is going off.
Who are you?
He’s probably in the Indie scene.
Y'all do realise WWE isnt the only pro wrestling thing lmaooo
@@shoe777 I don’t think they do lol. A lot of people only think of WWE. Not thinking NJPW, AEW, ROH, Impact and others are still pro wrestling. Lol
😊 You are amazing
That Mick Foley one was nuts. Some idiot used plastic zip tied to hold thr cage togethrr inatead of metal ties. He easnt supposed to fall through the cage. Undertaker said later that he honestly thought he was dead.
that sound brings back memories 3:19
OHHHHHHHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOO
Thanks for covering this topic, Mike. As a WWE fan we have so much respect for the wrestlers put their bodies on the line every time they step into the ring and while it might be scripted, things can go wrong in the blink of an eye.
What's frozen shoulder 🤔
Mick foley was easily one of the most batshit dudes out there lmao
As for when Undertaker threw Mick Foley off the side of the cage into the announce table, the only three people that knew what was going to happen before it did were the two of them and Vince McMahon. Even the announcer barely made it out of the way in time because he never expected them to do something that crazy. I recommend watching the video that Mick and Taker did recently where they sat own and watched the match together. I believe it's on the official WWE page
Randy Orton has suffered repeated shoulder problems his entire career due to have hypermobility in his shoulders, which is why something pretty simple like pounding the mat with his fists can often lead to injury for him.
"do da do da doooo"
"AHHAHHHHHHHH"
In the same match where Mick Foley was thrown of the top of the cage, he lost one of his teeth and when the camera gets a close up on him, you can see it lodged in his nose
As a wrestling fan, the Candice Michelle injury where Mike is asking how they continue would have happened in the early 2000s, I think it was 2008 from a quick google, so wrestling was JUST starting to really learn about concussions and calling matches off.
If the same thing happened today, the match definitely would have been called off and help called to the ring quickly.
Nowadays, when there is a bad spot you will see the ref check on them, and sometimes even have medical teams come out and check on them.
For example even at this years Wrestlemania (biggest event for WWE) there was a match that stopped for refs to come out to check on Finn Balor after he took a ladder to the face.
(He got stitched up and did actually finish the match, no concussion)
They could tell something was wrong, which is why her opponent quickly pinned her and got it over with.
Yes, Candice Michelle pre dates the concussion awareness era.
Didn’t Dr. Mike do a video on Hangman’s concussion from the March with Mox? Or was that a different UA-cam doctor?
Based on his reaction to Bianca and Sasha, I think Dr. Mike would enjoy wrestling. I’m wondering if he watches? Or does the videos because wrestling fans are rabid for content. 😂
I think it's before 2007, when the whole CTE and benoit story kicks
All the things were brutal but that Hair Whip, goddamn was that a scene to see 😂