Nice. Can I ask how long the transformation took? And why you were anti gat in the first place? Asking as an Australian that used to hunt pest species, back in the day.
To Honest Outlaw: I just turned 21, and on my birthday I got myself a CZP10C from the advice on this channel. I love it and couldn’t be happier with it. I put 700 rounds in it within a week and it’s as good as you say. On behalf of everyone here, thanks for your videos and advice!
Mrs outlaw sets him down in front of the Centipede video game. Canik releases their newest model, The Canik HO Centipede. Its a complete honorary Honest Outlaw set with a Fairbairn-Sykes knife with centipede sheath for bear fighting. 15 round magazines for the minimal number of centipede body sections/leg pairs since HO will want to shoot every section just to be sure.
Where is the CZ P10 series? Still can't believe it didn't make the list. Its literally a gun better than a $600 Glock in every way but cost just a little over $300.
I've shot really cheap guns and I've shot really expensive ones. As long as I focused on my fundamentals I couldn't see a difference in my ability to hit what I was aiming at the more expensive the gun was.
"Every farm house has a shotgun", yes. I grew up in rural Texas. Yes, all of my friends in school, their houses had shotguns. Outlaw, pretty good list for sure. Good video.
Respect to you for showing Mrs Outlaw shooting the guns left-handed. It shows us where the brass is going and what can be used by us who are left-eye dominant. Respect also that she's obviously a well practiced shooter rather than just eye candy. Thank you for the great content.
I love the MVP. I have the 7.62 x 51 and have zero issues with it. It uses AR-10 style magazines though for that cartridge. I shoot 168 gr. Accubond LR's at 2540 fps for a good 300 yard deer rifle. The subsonic version I make is the 175 Gr. Hornady Sub-X and it's popping out at 1080 fps. Works great with my .46 Hybrid SilencerCO suppressor.
I knew the Shield Plus would be number 1 before I even started watching the video 😅😅. I'm a big fan of the Smith and Wesson line, especially the 2.0 Compact, which is my favourite.
I am 1:50 into this video and props to you for recognizing Glock as a leader in handguns. There are a lot of platforms who criticize Glock. It was my every day carry for years and with quality ammo NEVER failed. It ran dirty or clean. They are a fantastic firearms manufacturer.
I liken them to buying a Toyota. They just work. There are newer 'better' models/manufacturers which are better in some ways and worse in others. I have never had the Gen2 Model 17 i bought in 1995 fail to go bang. (other than ammo related failure, like no powder, etc) I can't count the number of rounds fired in IPSC practise and matches in the last 29 years.
Theyre...not the leader in handguns.... It's bottom of the list for a reason. There are many many many glocks that are sold for less than $500. Only one on the list. Only a Glock super fan boy would reply with this comment. 😂 He rated a Canik above the Glock. But since it was first. Must be the best right?
@ryanguldbrandsen7672 It was my first gun and remains my only Glock. I've got tons of rounds through it and it has proven a very reliable platform. There is a reason US law enforcement agencies nationwide chose the Glock. It's a simple, easy to clean, reliable firearm. But I completely understand the ignorance of a Glock hater. You be you, sir.
@@rcampbell4967 I own a Glock 19 and a 43x. They are 100% stock. They're ok. The CZ P-10C and the P-10S I have are better overall shooters and are cheaper. My Sig p365 macro is better than both S and 43x. My M&P 2.0 is better than the C and the 19. The solitary thing I like more about the 19 and 43, is that the mags are very very very inexpensive and easy to find. You can buy 10-12 Glock mags for the price of 4 CZ, M&P or Sig mags I don't by aftermarket products for pistols unless I don't have any other options. So, I'm sure I could improve the glocks to maybe be as good as the others. But then I could upgrade the others to be even better. Parts upgrades is not a rabbit hole I want to find myself in. I've had failures to feed in all of them besides the P-10S. So, while I will never scoff at someone buying a Glock. This isn't 2010 or 2000. There are better pistols. Just as reliable and do everything better than Glocks for the same price or cheaper.
@@great_deception You do know is all based on preference right! I own a Glock 48, also my wife a 43x... And yet the Shield Series for me is a better shooter. 🤷🏻♂️ Go figure!
Love my CZ P07. Have the standard model and Tactical model. The only problem I have now is at 73 the arthritis in my hands makes that slide a problem at times. One of the best buys out there.
You nailed it when you said the 590 is the best shotgun. I have one that most people have never heard of in the 590DA1. Double action only. Trust me, it’s amazing.
I made a mistake and bought the 590A1. Love it too much and now I don't want to defend my home with it lol(they'll take it whether I'm right or wrong in a home defense shooting). So now I'm telling myself get the 88 mav for home defense and the 590 for everything else
@@geekofsteal The 88 is literally a 500 with plastic furniture, pinned pump, and crossbolt safety. It's no more likely to fail than any other 500 family model (which includes the 590).
Dude. You are such a great source of information. The CZ P10C was my first handgun, mostly based on your recommendation. I picked an Extar EP9, again, mostly based on your recommendation, and I actually enjoy shooting it more than my CZ Scorpion. It has earned its place as my bedside gun. You have also put the P-07 and the Mossberg 590 at the top of my “interested” list. Thank you. 👍
I love how the P-07 makes the list every time, Iv had one for over 4 years and I love it, carried it for most of the 4 years and now Iv built mine out to run USPSA matches, I actually have a tiny UA-cam channel showing it and some other stuff I do 😅 if anyone is interested in seeing a P-07 ran slowly in a USPSA match. Awesome video!!!
@@Blobertbigly it’s obviously lighter, little bit fatter too, but kinda the nature of polymer frame guns, trigger isn’t quite as smooth, but for the price point it’s a solid buy, get it and the cajun gun works trigger job and I’d take that over any polymer frame gun, I do understand the love of full metal frames though, actually my next buy will be a shadow 2
Great video and content! I am new to the world of shooting but you videos have me gravitating to the new M&P comp series. I have shot the new canik rival, sig spectre comp, HK vp9 and the staccato xc so now need the SW mp. Use on range and maybe carry at some point.
My shield plus 13 round mags have all fit 13 +1 no problem. I use a speed loader to break them in, but they run great. The 10 and 15s also run perfectly. Love that pistol.
Cajun gun works sells a spring kit with harder hammer strike pin for about $50. The pin helps for dry fire and longer wear ability. Takes it to a whole new level of accuracy. I love P07.
Man, love that Mossberg stock color. You have " saved " me money making this video. My wife will not look at it that way 😂. I appreciate Mr. and Mrs. Honest Outlaw for this channel. Some of the best reviews on UA-cam and they are absolutely honest.
My FPC survived a house fire. My safe looked like it had been blowtorched on the inside. I thought I had lost everything in it. Nope, several steel guns and the FPC survived.
Can you guarantee that the heat treatment of the metals wasn't compromised? Just something to be aware of, don't want you losing any fingers or an eye.
@@Blobertbigly Well, the plastic furniture didn’t melt off of it like two of my Glocks did. The round seats in a steel chamber. The bolt is also steel as are the springs. After checking all of that, my friend wanted to shoot it first. We are both still alive and unharmed. Yes, of course I thought of that for every gun I thought was ok. The AR’s aluminum frame was what I was worried about the most. They didn’t melt, and after lots of cleaning they went bang as well.
Really appreciate your view point on different firearms and the fact that if there is something you don’t care for you emphasize that it’s your opinion and give exactly what it is you don’t care for and NOT just “I don’t like it”. Then you give alternatives for those things. Thanks for what you do and keep cranking the content !
Shocked BCA beat out PSA on your list. Hundreds of thousands of people have them; they have the best warranty period, mission statement is amazing, and people have continually abused them here on YT using FA lowers and suppressors and they always punch above their weight. And yes, you can always get the base model for under 500$ and the nicer sabres for more.
He didn't put in a Dagger either which is a great gun for $300. He didn't put a CZ P10C in and that's a great gun for $350. He was slipping on this list.
Good observations, I do love my bca and it can put two rounds into the same hole at 100 yards. The dagger is a good choice for ultra budget 9, and the p10, I love. P10s is imo the best value polymer framed striker fired handgun, with exceptional quality.
I have 2 bca complete uppers and the 16” runs flawlessly without any lube or cleaning (doing it on purpose) I’m now over 1000 rounds with it, with no issues and the 10.5 I’ve not shot yet but I’m expecting similar results. as of my posting of this comment, you can buy a complete rifle, the BCA bc15 16” 1:7 twist for $364.04.. Not being sarcastic, but can you buy a complete PSA rifle for that price? If you can that’s new-news to me. I know BCA is just as good as PSA. If I get 1k rounds through my pistol upper with no lube or cleaning they will have a sworn customer for life out of me forsure and I’ll probably order about 10 more 🤷🏻♂️
@@vr6g608 BCA is way better than that $400 AR they tested. Where can you get a complete BCA rifle under $400? Not being sarcastic. I want to buy at least 1.
@@vr6g608 just realized BCA and not BCM. BCA rifles are a crapshoot. Some you get are fine and others you will have to send back more than once. BCA rifles use a HBAR barrel and I have seen them be VERY accurate. Like under MOA with practice FMJ ammo. However, like I said the rest of the rifle is VERY hit or miss and you take that chance with a sub $400 rifle.
I love to see this type of content. I think someone with your experience across the entire industry price/quality spectrum giving your opinion on this subject is important. Everyone should be able to defend themselves reliably regardless of how much they can afford.
With the right deals and websites, you can get alot of good shit under $500. Blue Label glocks with a gssf membership ($35). Websites that dont charge sales tax are also a big plus. I am on the east coast, so my gun shops suck ass, so ordering online is the only method of purchasing that makes sense. The guys who have pawn shops or good gun shops near them are extremely lucky.
Love my p-07. Sold all my glocks and bought a p-10c also after getting my p-07. I am now a huge CZ fanboy and now own many CZ guns from pistols to rifles.
Couldn't agree more about the Canik. Own several highly valued Sigs like early 226 and 220 and high end HK. Have same model of Canik...tried to get a malfunction with odd ammo...handles everything, no problems...best pistol out of the box including the ones I mentioned...no break in period at all...reliable and accurate out of the box.
"Get outta my house nutsack!" Makes me wish I never sold my old Winchester Defender. Always awesome content and really useful for those folks who want to buy a quality firearm but don't have a lot of extra cash.
Another Great "best" list Outlaw!!! And once again, my favorite handgun makes the list, the CZ P07! I love my p07 so much I bought a second one in the Elite Package. Thanks for such great content!
I love my Canik, I believe Glove and Ruger had a love Child and this is the result. Nice Crisp trigger, easy to use, dead balls accurate out of the box, little to no adjustments it is really a great gun. My first one was stolen and recovered and it still shoots like it was brand new, even though it looks like they threw it or dragged it behind a car for 5 miles.
"Nuts" said the Queen, if I had em' I'd be King, and the King laughed cuz he had a pair (until he Appendix carried and had a holster malfunction). Thanks for another great video!
4:40 I am happy your Canik did not have problems. Unfortunately mine has had over a dozen malfunctions in 400 rounds. A hell of a problem foe a defensive firearm.
@@dsxz Elite SC. I don't know what is wrong with it. I've replaced the firing pin assembly and the recoil spring. I'm going to send it back to the factory this week and see if they can find what's going on. No one else I've seen has had this problem. I think I just have some rotten luck.
@@watchyoutube9553 I received the replacement firing pin and recoil spring from Canik after my initial problems. All parts are factory. I'm still having issues. Also, pick up a damn dictionary. Your spelling and grammar are atrocious.
My wife and I love to watch to youre channel because of you and youre wife honest opinion. God Bless you both keep on doing the good work. Greeting from the Netherlands.❤
I picked up a Glock 48 mos and a CZ p10s within the last six months. As I'm in NJ our mag capacity is 10, so both fit that. And I'll be flipping back and forth on my carry gun once I get my NJ CCW. Thanks Chris. Your channel has been my go too. Always appreciate your reviews.
Great list. But it's hard to mention the Mossberg 590 without also mentioning the Remington 870, because as far as pump shotguns go, they are like the Coke vs Pepsi choice. They both come in so many configurations. Seems that while Mossberg was used most by the military, the Remington was used more by law enforcement across the nation.
Haha! That’s awesome. I ended up buying a P10C as my first handgun, mostly based on Honest Outlaw’s recommendation. No regrets. I later bought a P10S, but it never fit my hand very well. The P365 however, feels like it was custom made for me. Honest Outlaw provides so much value. 👍
I can attest to the RF-15. I bought one and put all budget friendly attachments on it (AR scope, fore grip, bipod, Ambi charging handle, dust cover, offset rail and red dot plus a few mags) and am still under $1000
I'd like to see best value guns. That point on the price curve where you get an amazing weapon but before the price rockets towards the moon. Rifle/pcc/shotgun/pistol and possibly accompanied optics. Love all your work 👍
A buddy of mine bought a BCA 18 inch 5.56 that came with a 1:8 twist, mid length gas system, 15” free float M-Lok hand guard with a couple inches of rail at the end for a front sight and a really nice muzzle device that reminds me of the battle comp. It’s been very reliable and he got at least 3x his moneys worth in my opinion
The FPC is one of my favorite rifles. Only problem I’ve had was the plastic charging handle cracked within a few times unfolding and folding, I changed mine out with an aluminum charging handle. Best part about the FPC is that it fits perfectly in the saddlebag on my 19 Street Glide.
I shot the 365 macro, and I didn't like it. Then I shot the Prodigy, and I didn't care for it either. My M&P 2.0 with the overwatch precision trigger and Ed Brown threaded barrel blows them out of the water. But that's just my experience and opinion.
That's a completely different class of firearm. The 365 is a super thin concealed carry firearm while the MP 2.0 is a true duty gun. Not saying the 2.0 isn't better than a P320(what would be in its class) because I believe it is but your comparison is apples to oranges. The Prodigy to P365 is like apples to watermelons.
Can’t wait for review on the new CZ P-09c nocturn/NEW p-07 with better texture and optics ready! Currently own a p-07 and wondering if it’s worth the upgrades, really would love to add an optic to my p07!
Definitely would love to see a 500 to 700 range handgun video. That seems to be a good quality range - a bit on the high side for us working people but still attainable. Thanks for the cool video!
Just eat some ramen/Mac & cheese for a few months and you can save up enough. I know some competition shooters here in Honolulu that eat Vienna sausage & top ramen to save for Infinity Open guns ($10,000+).
@@melissasmess2773 I bought 4 of them. One worked reliably 80% of the time. The other 3 are in the trash. I’d rather throw them away than pay for shipping and restocking fees on a faulty product. The cheapass psa mags work 100% reliably so far. About 400 rounds through each one of them and still no problems 👍🏻
The Glock 48 or 43x with the S15 Shield Arms mags & magazine catch/release is the way to go for me. After that, you might want some new sites, but that's all you'll really need.
I owned a P07, and between it and my P10c, I gotta go with the P10. I shot them both side by side plenty of times and maybe it's just me but i like it more. It's lighter, there's more aftermarket support, and with that Apex trigger kit it shoots like a dream. I can't get over how well it sits in my hand. The p07 is just a tad too short in the grip, and the stock trigger leaves ALOT to be desired. Even in single action. You could go to the Cajun Gun works route but I feel like it's just too much money and time to make it shoot as good as a P10 with an upgraded trigger.
I know a lot of people might disagree with me on this one for whatever reason, but Springfield's XD-m's Elite and Elite Compact are really amazing tools, and if you go to the right place, you can find them for less than five hundred benjies
It’s the same thing the gun world itself suffers from. The gun industry doesn’t move as fast as social media does, so you either get info that’s repeated to death or tons of releases with small iterations that only have marginal differences.
You just put 3 guns that I already wanted to buy on this list. I had been wanting a pcc in 9mm for a while when the S&W FPC came out. & when you did your first video with it, I was pretty much sold. This cements it.
Great list! Love your videos. I, too, carry the Shield Plus. The only change I would make is to replace the Glock 43X with a CZ P10S. I didn't realize the S&W folder was available for around $500. Would love to see more videos like this.
so... the FPC is nowhere near under $500... I see you use this caveat every video, but you can look at their website and see its selling for $700... in fact, the vast majority of the guns you hide behind the caveat you can go by their price on the website and be accurate... its odd to me how you are making these price point vids yet are using pricing you got from a buddy when everything is there laid out conveniently online..All I am saying is it makes you look less reputable when you are trying to pass guns off for way cheaper than they are when the price is widely avail be pretty standard.. even in GA the cheapest I can find that gun is for $620...do better bro
Right, the glocks in general new not used go for 500-600 in my area no matter the caliber. I can agree with your comment. I wouldn't put ones he was sponsored by or was sent in for a review. That isn't what the normal consumer runs into and for cannik they are 600 plus in my area. Dont think area and state difference was compensated for in this video. Just his direct connection. No shade just stating the obvious
@@anthonymartorano934 @blessedone1845 so what you are saying is even for you and your probably used prices the gun is still over $500. Thanks for proving my point
@@anthonymartorano934 I really just want people to be honest about what price point reliable guns are going to be at... I wouldn't think it would be that far of an ask for someone who has 'honest' in their name and proceeds to make the claims he does...
I had to come back and edit because I hadn’t watched the whole video to add the Shield Plus, Well 3 of my 5 different edc pistols are on your list, the, S&W Shield Plus, Canik tp9 elite sc, CZ p07, then iv got the S&W fpc 9mm carbine so I like your list of picks Chris, the other 2 I use are CZ p10c and Mossberg sc2c at which I changed the trigger from M-Carbo.
I know you're more of a Pistol guy, I would love to hear your thoughts on a particular 22 lr though. Would you be able to do a review on the Savage 64 precision rifle. It's under $500 and I think it deserves a review from the honest outlaw.
I preferred the 43X to the standard Shield Plus; just shot it better and it felt better in the hand. Still got an itch to try the Performance Center version.
I’ve been seeing 365xl’ for $500, and I have trouble recommending the Glock 43x/48 unless they are Glock fans because once you add the shield arms mags and release, night sights you’re at a much higher price than the 365xl, and the sog being so modular you can change the gun as your needs change.
I think most people who buy a P365 intend on upgrading it. There is so much aftermarket stuff for the platform that you can make it compact size and almost full size yet still slim enough to conceal
Super support your 500 choice. Fantastic for an all around arm. Slugs for heavy hitting food or bad things. No problem. Options to adjust shot for multiple other uses too. Versatility is a big deal.
This channel single handedly took me from being anti gun to owning several myself, most recently an HK VP9.
The vp40 is even better
Hk is anti gun lol. (2a)
@@Kevin-oy8nl I accidentally bought a vp 40 for 400 thinking it was the 9mm. Best mistake I ever made.
If you don’t mind my asking what specifically changed your mind?
Nice. Can I ask how long the transformation took? And why you were anti gat in the first place?
Asking as an Australian that used to hunt pest species, back in the day.
To Honest Outlaw:
I just turned 21, and on my birthday I got myself a CZP10C from the advice on this channel. I love it and couldn’t be happier with it. I put 700 rounds in it within a week and it’s as good as you say. On behalf of everyone here, thanks for your videos and advice!
Yeah buddy. The P10C was my first handgun, mostly because of Honest Outlaw’s recommendation. It’s been great. 👍
Congratulations! Next go for a P07 & you'll have 2 awesome CZs that take the same mags.
When I turned 21 my first pistol was the CZ P10c SR and with 3000+ rounds in it I can say it’s the best home defense pistol I own
I have the p10f. Love it. Its a good shooter. I want the p07 too.
@@MrKlein83 if only suppressor ready p07s were available still, they dried up
I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but I have a feeling that CZ is going to make an appearance.
You know if it’s a
Was the P07 he was holding in the thumbnail your first clue 😂
@@Rhaenspots should have been both. I just picked up the p10c for sub $500
Or two lol
@@618bushcraftexactly 😂
“I will fight a bear with a knife, but I cannot deal with centipedes.” 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, I felt that.
Mrs outlaw sets him down in front of the Centipede video game.
Canik releases their newest model, The Canik HO Centipede.
Its a complete honorary Honest Outlaw set with a Fairbairn-Sykes knife with centipede sheath for bear fighting.
15 round magazines for the minimal number of centipede body sections/leg pairs since HO will want to shoot every section just to be sure.
I wonder where he would rate millipedes...
Best quote of 2024!!😅😅
Glock 43x
Mossberg MVP
Canik tp9 SC
Extar EP9
Radical Arms AR15/ Bear creek arsenal AR15
Czp 07
S&W M&P ffc
Sig p365
Mossberg 590
M&P shield plus
I'm surprised the APX regularly flies under the radar on lists like this. Easily under $500.
Lol BCA AR 15?
Thank you
Where is the CZ P10 series? Still can't believe it didn't make the list. Its literally a gun better than a $600 Glock in every way but cost just a little over $300.
I thought he didn't like the Mossberg bolt action rifle?
Poors assemble!
In all seriousness I always appreciate people pointing out the more affordable firearms.
5-600 is affordable. i dislike the 1,200 dollar gun reviewers so much. most people are not gonna go that way.
@@GodsChosen69agreed, although ARs with aftermarket accessories quickly get into that realm.
EP9 and PSA Dagger makes for a decent pairing and ALOT OF FUN at the range!
I've shot really cheap guns and I've shot really expensive ones. As long as I focused on my fundamentals I couldn't see a difference in my ability to hit what I was aiming at the more expensive the gun was.
Imagine spending 2500 to get clapped by a G3 😂😂😂
"Every farm house has a shotgun", yes. I grew up in rural Texas. Yes, all of my friends in school, their houses had shotguns. Outlaw, pretty good list for sure. Good video.
Carry gun + pcc combos might be an interesting topic.
Pretty straightforward concept.
@mattwalters6834 the concept is, yes. I'm talking brand combo comparisons. S&w pfc + shield vs xx+yy vs ??+!!
Fpc does not take shield mags. M&P mags work though
Source: this is in my daily truck/carry rotation
@@psguardian
You should do a "Mrs. Outlaw's Personal Top 5 guns"...which are her personal guns...Show her some love man...
I would definitely watch that.
I got a gun for my wife. Best trade I ever made.
😂@@panzerabwerkanone
Respect to you for showing Mrs Outlaw shooting the guns left-handed. It shows us where the brass is going and what can be used by us who are left-eye dominant. Respect also that she's obviously a well practiced shooter rather than just eye candy. Thank you for the great content.
The SW folding carbine is one on my radar. It’s about 650 here in NC. I really am close to snagging one up. Thanks for the good video.
First! I’ve been following you for some time. I have taken your advice on a few purchases. You have been spot on every time. Salute!
There's just a completely utilitarian beauty to the P-07 and P-09; No frills, all business.
Prefer the p-01
@@RonaldRoy-nb2lm the P-01 might be one of the most aesthetically pleasing pistols of all time.
@@TheOfficialCaseMade have an sp-01 and p-01 now it's time for a shadow 2
I love the MVP. I have the 7.62 x 51 and have zero issues with it. It uses AR-10 style magazines though for that cartridge. I shoot 168 gr. Accubond LR's at 2540 fps for a good 300 yard deer rifle. The subsonic version I make is the 175 Gr. Hornady Sub-X and it's popping out at 1080 fps. Works great with my .46 Hybrid SilencerCO suppressor.
I knew the Shield Plus would be number 1 before I even started watching the video 😅😅. I'm a big fan of the Smith and Wesson line, especially the 2.0 Compact, which is my favourite.
That Call of Duty Mossberg 590 was awesome! Your version is spot on!
I have a Radical Firearms AR15. Love it. Very reliable. It is the CA version, but I’ve put about 500 rounds through it without any issues. $500 in CA.
Picked one up myself about a year ago and I love it.
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I am 1:50 into this video and props to you for recognizing Glock as a leader in handguns. There are a lot of platforms who criticize Glock. It was my every day carry for years and with quality ammo NEVER failed. It ran dirty or clean. They are a fantastic firearms manufacturer.
I liken them to buying a Toyota. They just work. There are newer 'better' models/manufacturers which are better in some ways and worse in others.
I have never had the Gen2 Model 17 i bought in 1995 fail to go bang. (other than ammo related failure, like no powder, etc) I can't count the number of rounds fired in IPSC practise and matches in the last 29 years.
Theyre...not the leader in handguns....
It's bottom of the list for a reason. There are many many many glocks that are sold for less than $500. Only one on the list. Only a Glock super fan boy would reply with this comment. 😂
He rated a Canik above the Glock. But since it was first. Must be the best right?
@ryanguldbrandsen7672 It was my first gun and remains my only Glock. I've got tons of rounds through it and it has proven a very reliable platform. There is a reason US law enforcement agencies nationwide chose the Glock. It's a simple, easy to clean, reliable firearm. But I completely understand the ignorance of a Glock hater. You be you, sir.
@@rcampbell4967 I own a Glock 19 and a 43x. They are 100% stock. They're ok. The CZ P-10C and the P-10S I have are better overall shooters and are cheaper. My Sig p365 macro is better than both S and 43x. My M&P 2.0 is better than the C and the 19. The solitary thing I like more about the 19 and 43, is that the mags are very very very inexpensive and easy to find. You can buy 10-12 Glock mags for the price of 4 CZ, M&P or Sig mags
I don't by aftermarket products for pistols unless I don't have any other options. So, I'm sure I could improve the glocks to maybe be as good as the others. But then I could upgrade the others to be even better.
Parts upgrades is not a rabbit hole I want to find myself in.
I've had failures to feed in all of them besides the P-10S.
So, while I will never scoff at someone buying a Glock. This isn't 2010 or 2000. There are better pistols. Just as reliable and do everything better than Glocks for the same price or cheaper.
M&P Shield for the win! Something about that series makes it shoot sooo accurate and smooth 😎🤙🏻
The Shield? lol a P365 or even a 43X are better shooters. The Shield is dirt cheap for a reason.
@@great_deceptionuh oh, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today 😢
@@great_deception You do know is all based on preference right! I own a Glock 48, also my wife a 43x... And yet the Shield Series for me is a better shooter. 🤷🏻♂️ Go figure!
@@Jduke02 Thanks for your input no one asked for.
@@ADRzone enjoy the Shield
Love my CZ P07. Have the standard model and Tactical model. The only problem I have now is at 73 the arthritis in my hands makes that slide a problem at times. One of the best buys out there.
You nailed it when you said the 590 is the best shotgun. I have one that most people have never heard of in the 590DA1. Double action only. Trust me, it’s amazing.
I made a mistake and bought the 590A1. Love it too much and now I don't want to defend my home with it lol(they'll take it whether I'm right or wrong in a home defense shooting). So now I'm telling myself get the 88 mav for home defense and the 590 for everything else
I want a Remington 870 but mostly because of Black Ops 2
@@drepop803.......or your Mav88 could fail you in a defense scenario and you'll lose both guns.....and your life maybe. That's also important I guess
@@geekofsteal Not likely to fail.
@@geekofsteal The 88 is literally a 500 with plastic furniture, pinned pump, and crossbolt safety. It's no more likely to fail than any other 500 family model (which includes the 590).
Dude. You are such a great source of information. The CZ P10C was my first handgun, mostly based on your recommendation. I picked an Extar EP9, again, mostly based on your recommendation, and I actually enjoy shooting it more than my CZ Scorpion. It has earned its place as my bedside gun.
You have also put the P-07 and the Mossberg 590 at the top of my “interested” list. Thank you. 👍
The mossberg maverick is another great way to go if you're dipping your toe. Home defense and clay/bird barrel for under 250
I love how the P-07 makes the list every time, Iv had one for over 4 years and I love it, carried it for most of the 4 years and now Iv built mine out to run USPSA matches, I actually have a tiny UA-cam channel showing it and some other stuff I do 😅 if anyone is interested in seeing a P-07 ran slowly in a USPSA match. Awesome video!!!
I have a p01, how's it compare? I'm really particular and like metal frames, but the p07 has my eye...
@@Blobertbigly it’s obviously lighter, little bit fatter too, but kinda the nature of polymer frame guns, trigger isn’t quite as smooth, but for the price point it’s a solid buy, get it and the cajun gun works trigger job and I’d take that over any polymer frame gun, I do understand the love of full metal frames though, actually my next buy will be a shadow 2
Great video and content! I am new to the world of shooting but you videos have me gravitating to the new M&P comp series. I have shot the new canik rival, sig spectre comp, HK vp9 and the staccato xc so now need the SW mp. Use on range and maybe carry at some point.
I love my P-07. It's my suppressor host and it's never failed.
Same here, the suppressor ready p07 is my second one & has had zero issues suppressed & unsuppressed. Love them!
My shield plus 13 round mags have all fit 13 +1 no problem. I use a speed loader to break them in, but they run great. The 10 and 15s also run perfectly. Love that pistol.
Got my CZ P07 2 weeks ago, love it so far.
Cajun gun works sells a spring kit with harder hammer strike pin for about $50. The pin helps for dry fire and longer wear ability. Takes it to a whole new level of accuracy. I love P07.
Man, love that Mossberg stock color. You have " saved " me money making this video. My wife will not look at it that way 😂.
I appreciate Mr. and Mrs. Honest Outlaw for this channel. Some of the best reviews on UA-cam and they are absolutely honest.
My FPC survived a house fire. My safe looked like it had been blowtorched on the inside. I thought I had lost everything in it.
Nope, several steel guns and the FPC survived.
Way to level up the torture test.
(Sorry about your house. I hope everyone is okay)
Can you guarantee that the heat treatment of the metals wasn't compromised? Just something to be aware of, don't want you losing any fingers or an eye.
@@Blobertbigly Well, the plastic furniture didn’t melt off of it like two of my Glocks did. The round seats in a steel chamber. The bolt is also steel as are the springs. After checking all of that, my friend wanted to shoot it first. We are both still alive and unharmed.
Yes, of course I thought of that for every gun I thought was ok. The AR’s aluminum frame was what I was worried about the most. They didn’t melt, and after lots of cleaning they went bang as well.
@@Blobertbigly Yes, that was my first concern.
Really appreciate your view point on different firearms and the fact that if there is something you don’t care for you emphasize that it’s your opinion and give exactly what it is you don’t care for and NOT just “I don’t like it”. Then you give alternatives for those things. Thanks for what you do and keep cranking the content !
Shocked BCA beat out PSA on your list. Hundreds of thousands of people have them; they have the best warranty period, mission statement is amazing, and people have continually abused them here on YT using FA lowers and suppressors and they always punch above their weight.
And yes, you can always get the base model for under 500$ and the nicer sabres for more.
He didn't put in a Dagger either which is a great gun for $300. He didn't put a CZ P10C in and that's a great gun for $350. He was slipping on this list.
Good observations, I do love my bca and it can put two rounds into the same hole at 100 yards. The dagger is a good choice for ultra budget 9, and the p10, I love. P10s is imo the best value polymer framed striker fired handgun, with exceptional quality.
I have 2 bca complete uppers and the 16” runs flawlessly without any lube or cleaning (doing it on purpose) I’m now over 1000 rounds with it, with no issues and the 10.5 I’ve not shot yet but I’m expecting similar results. as of my posting of this comment, you can buy a complete rifle, the BCA bc15 16” 1:7 twist for $364.04.. Not being sarcastic, but can you buy a complete PSA rifle for that price? If you can that’s new-news to me. I know BCA is just as good as PSA.
If I get 1k rounds through my pistol upper with no lube or cleaning they will have a sworn customer for life out of me forsure and I’ll probably order about 10 more 🤷🏻♂️
@@vr6g608 BCA is way better than that $400 AR they tested. Where can you get a complete BCA rifle under $400? Not being sarcastic. I want to buy at least 1.
@@vr6g608 just realized BCA and not BCM. BCA rifles are a crapshoot. Some you get are fine and others you will have to send back more than once. BCA rifles use a HBAR barrel and I have seen them be VERY accurate. Like under MOA with practice FMJ ammo. However, like I said the rest of the rifle is VERY hit or miss and you take that chance with a sub $400 rifle.
I love to see this type of content. I think someone with your experience across the entire industry price/quality spectrum giving your opinion on this subject is important. Everyone should be able to defend themselves reliably regardless of how much they can afford.
With the right deals and websites, you can get alot of good shit under $500. Blue Label glocks with a gssf membership ($35). Websites that dont charge sales tax are also a big plus.
I am on the east coast, so my gun shops suck ass, so ordering online is the only method of purchasing that makes sense. The guys who have pawn shops or good gun shops near them are extremely lucky.
Good list! I have several 9mms but my S&W Shield (the original version) shoots great and carries well. I also love my P-07.
You can't beat those Cz man, I got my second p10c and would not mind getting a couple more
Why a P10 series didn't make the list i will never know. Especially since he is a CZ fan.
@@ShizawnSanders Exactly! Maybe he just didn't want to put both
Love my p-07. Sold all my glocks and bought a p-10c also after getting my p-07. I am now a huge CZ fanboy and now own many CZ guns from pistols to rifles.
Nice list. One gun I'd love to see you review is Girsan's compact Hi power.
Couldn't agree more about the Canik. Own several highly valued Sigs like early 226 and 220 and high end HK. Have same model of Canik...tried to get a malfunction with odd ammo...handles everything, no problems...best pistol out of the box including the ones I mentioned...no break in period at all...reliable and accurate out of the box.
"Get outta my house nutsack!" Makes me wish I never sold my old Winchester Defender. Always awesome content and really useful for those folks who want to buy a quality firearm but don't have a lot of extra cash.
For shame!!!
I have mine still! Sweet shotgun. 👍
Not as well known as the Mossberg or the Remington, but still a great tactical shotgun. 👍
Another Great "best" list Outlaw!!! And once again, my favorite handgun makes the list, the CZ P07! I love my p07 so much I bought a second one in the Elite Package. Thanks for such great content!
I have gotten my wife interested in guns. Maybe a video on first time female shooter gun selection or how to start?
Really glad to hear you give a shout out to BCA. When I built mine I went with a BCA upper and have not regretted it. Bomb Proof.
I think the cz p10 would be a good option also, they’re currently very cheap new.
Can get them for 429 most places
Still love my p07. Arthritis is making everything a challenge though. 😢
Check out Glock 42 (380) - it is easier to rack and a lighter gun. Could be helpful for you.
I love my Canik, I believe Glove and Ruger had a love Child and this is the result. Nice Crisp trigger, easy to use, dead balls accurate out of the box, little to no adjustments it is really a great gun. My first one was stolen and recovered and it still shoots like it was brand new, even though it looks like they threw it or dragged it behind a car for 5 miles.
Beretta APX A1 Full or Compact should be on that list. Otherwise, great video and selections.
"Nuts" said the Queen, if I had em' I'd be King, and the King laughed cuz he had a pair (until he Appendix carried and had a holster malfunction). Thanks for another great video!
I agree with you on the sheld plus I've had one for 2 years and I love it it's my day to day Cary along with my body guard as a backup
“Unless you’re a CNN reporter” 😂😂😂
I know right. If you know you know
Picked up FPC last week and it run good, fast and fun to shoot. I am really enjoying it!
4:40 I am happy your Canik did not have problems. Unfortunately mine has had over a dozen malfunctions in 400 rounds. A hell of a problem foe a defensive firearm.
elite sc or mc9? the mc9 has had a rough debut but the sc and the rest have been solid
@@dsxz Elite SC. I don't know what is wrong with it. I've replaced the firing pin assembly and the recoil spring. I'm going to send it back to the factory this week and see if they can find what's going on.
No one else I've seen has had this problem. I think I just have some rotten luck.
Sorry you’re having problems. Thanks for the heads up
@@watchface6836smh idk y yall tamper wit guns instead of using the warranty u paid for
@@watchyoutube9553 I received the replacement firing pin and recoil spring from Canik after my initial problems. All parts are factory. I'm still having issues.
Also, pick up a damn dictionary. Your spelling and grammar are atrocious.
Everytime i want a review i come to this page. Keep it up
My wife and I love to watch to youre channel because of you and youre wife honest opinion. God Bless you both keep on doing the good work. Greeting from the Netherlands.❤
The Extar is truly the people's blaster.
I picked up a Glock 48 mos and a CZ p10s within the last six months. As I'm in NJ our mag capacity is 10, so both fit that. And I'll be flipping back and forth on my carry gun once I get my NJ CCW.
Thanks Chris. Your channel has been my go too. Always appreciate your reviews.
P365 is the ultimate pocket pistol.
I get 14+1 in my P365 from the same 12 round magazine with MagGuts springs.
Best price I can find on the FPC is $579 plus shipping. How in the holy hell did you find one under $500? And where?
Pawn shop find
Depends on where u live and stuff, he explains that at the beginning, good prices here where we live, just depends I guess, good luck!
Love the video! Eagerly waiting for the IWI Zion 15 1000 round review!
Great list. But it's hard to mention the Mossberg 590 without also mentioning the Remington 870, because as far as pump shotguns go, they are like the Coke vs Pepsi choice. They both come in so many configurations. Seems that while Mossberg was used most by the military, the Remington was used more by law enforcement across the nation.
Haha! That’s awesome. I ended up buying a P10C as my first handgun, mostly based on Honest Outlaw’s recommendation. No regrets. I later bought a P10S, but it never fit my hand very well. The P365 however, feels like it was custom made for me. Honest Outlaw provides so much value. 👍
I can attest to the RF-15. I bought one and put all budget friendly attachments on it (AR scope, fore grip, bipod, Ambi charging handle, dust cover, offset rail and red dot plus a few mags) and am still under $1000
I'd like to see best value guns. That point on the price curve where you get an amazing weapon but before the price rockets towards the moon. Rifle/pcc/shotgun/pistol and possibly accompanied optics.
Love all your work 👍
A buddy of mine bought a BCA 18 inch 5.56 that came with a 1:8 twist, mid length gas system, 15” free float M-Lok hand guard with a couple inches of rail at the end for a front sight and a really nice muzzle device that reminds me of the battle comp. It’s been very reliable and he got at least 3x his moneys worth in my opinion
"unless you're a CNN reporter" lol
The FPC is one of my favorite rifles. Only problem I’ve had was the plastic charging handle cracked within a few times unfolding and folding, I changed mine out with an aluminum charging handle. Best part about the FPC is that it fits perfectly in the saddlebag on my 19 Street Glide.
I always enjoy. You are really talking me into the CZ P07..
I shot the 365 macro, and I didn't like it. Then I shot the Prodigy, and I didn't care for it either. My M&P 2.0 with the overwatch precision trigger and Ed Brown threaded barrel blows them out of the water. But that's just my experience and opinion.
Was it under 500 with trigger and barrel?
@robertfandel9442 no, but I expressed my opinion anyway.
That's a completely different class of firearm. The 365 is a super thin concealed carry firearm while the MP 2.0 is a true duty gun. Not saying the 2.0 isn't better than a P320(what would be in its class) because I believe it is but your comparison is apples to oranges. The Prodigy to P365 is like apples to watermelons.
@shawnsanders9450 I didn't realize that, lol.
The beauty in today’s gun market is the Shield Plus, G43x, P10c, P09 and P07 all could be had for around $450.
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Thank you so much for all of your great informative and honest reviews Chris! I absolutely love your channel, keep up the good work.
Can’t wait for review on the new CZ P-09c nocturn/NEW p-07 with better texture and optics ready! Currently own a p-07 and wondering if it’s worth the upgrades, really would love to add an optic to my p07!
Definitely would love to see a 500 to 700 range handgun video. That seems to be a good quality range - a bit on the high side for us working people but still attainable. Thanks for the cool video!
P320, build it how you like, M&P 2.0 full and compact, and I think the CZ P09 and maybe the low end of the CZ75
Just eat some ramen/Mac & cheese for a few months and you can save up enough. I know some competition shooters here in Honolulu that eat Vienna sausage & top ramen to save for Infinity Open guns ($10,000+).
G43x Shield Arms magazine holds 15 in the same space.
I’ve found the psa micro dagger 15rd mags to be more reliable than the shield mags personally.
@@Bryan-1980definitely heard some reliability problems with Shield Arms mags.
@@melissasmess2773 I bought 4 of them. One worked reliably 80% of the time. The other 3 are in the trash. I’d rather throw them away than pay for shipping and restocking fees on a faulty product. The cheapass psa mags work 100% reliably so far. About 400 rounds through each one of them and still no problems 👍🏻
We want all the lists Mr and Mrs outlaw… or at least I am always interested in your videos and opinions.
The Glock 48 or 43x with the S15 Shield Arms mags & magazine catch/release is the way to go for me. After that, you might want some new sites, but that's all you'll really need.
How the hell did you break a Comp M4?!!
Trying to kill that damn centipede! 🤣
I really like Radical ARs. A lot of people hate on them, but I have 3 that have roughly 4k, 2k, 2k round thru them, no issues.
A video like this talking about Revolvers under $$ would be AMAZING!
I owned a P07, and between it and my P10c, I gotta go with the P10. I shot them both side by side plenty of times and maybe it's just me but i like it more.
It's lighter, there's more aftermarket support, and with that Apex trigger kit it shoots like a dream. I can't get over how well it sits in my hand.
The p07 is just a tad too short in the grip, and the stock trigger leaves ALOT to be desired. Even in single action.
You could go to the Cajun Gun works route but I feel like it's just too much money and time to make it shoot as good as a P10 with an upgraded trigger.
I know a lot of people might disagree with me on this one for whatever reason, but Springfield's XD-m's Elite and Elite Compact are really amazing tools, and if you go to the right place, you can find them for less than five hundred benjies
If you are looking for a pistol like the Glock 43x get the PSA micro dagger. 15+1 @ 300$. It also uses 43x holsters and most ship optic ready.
Good video but nothing really new here. P365, P07, the S&W folding pcc. Outlaw is great and at the same time nothing that hasn’t been sent before
It’s the same thing the gun world itself suffers from. The gun industry doesn’t move as fast as social media does, so you either get info that’s repeated to death or tons of releases with small iterations that only have marginal differences.
Would you rather he put worse guns on the list just because they are different?
You just put 3 guns that I already wanted to buy on this list. I had been wanting a pcc in 9mm for a while when the S&W FPC came out. & when you did your first video with it, I was pretty much sold. This cements it.
When was the last time a P365 was under $500?!?
Store near me is selling for 391 and I live in the communist state of massachsuetts
It’s on PSA right now for 499$ 😂 optic ready 9mm, edit: both the external safety and no-safety 365 are 499.
My local shop has a used one "like new in the box" for 399. Glad they're finally starting to come down in price a bit
Battlehawk just had em for like $440
Shieldplus and hellcat differ in what way? I got the cat however I'm a newbie and have yet to practice with my first three purchases.
Great list! Love your videos. I, too, carry the Shield Plus. The only change I would make is to replace the Glock 43X with a CZ P10S. I didn't realize the S&W folder was available for around $500. Would love to see more videos like this.
so... the FPC is nowhere near under $500... I see you use this caveat every video, but you can look at their website and see its selling for $700... in fact, the vast majority of the guns you hide behind the caveat you can go by their price on the website and be accurate... its odd to me how you are making these price point vids yet are using pricing you got from a buddy when everything is there laid out conveniently online..All I am saying is it makes you look less reputable when you are trying to pass guns off for way cheaper than they are when the price is widely avail be pretty standard.. even in GA the cheapest I can find that gun is for $620...do better bro
There was new ones in my local store for $570 a few weeks ago I think the highest I’ve seen them is $620
Right, the glocks in general new not used go for 500-600 in my area no matter the caliber. I can agree with your comment. I wouldn't put ones he was sponsored by or was sent in for a review. That isn't what the normal consumer runs into and for cannik they are 600 plus in my area. Dont think area and state difference was compensated for in this video. Just his direct connection. No shade just stating the obvious
Look at Cabelas and Palmetto State Armory, they have them on there for $599 rn and my local Scheels in IA had it on sale for $520 about a month ago
@@anthonymartorano934 @blessedone1845 so what you are saying is even for you and your probably used prices the gun is still over $500. Thanks for proving my point
@@anthonymartorano934 I really just want people to be honest about what price point reliable guns are going to be at... I wouldn't think it would be that far of an ask for someone who has 'honest' in their name and proceeds to make the claims he does...
I had to come back and edit because I hadn’t watched the whole video to add the Shield Plus, Well 3 of my 5 different edc pistols are on your list, the, S&W Shield Plus, Canik tp9 elite sc, CZ p07, then iv got the S&W fpc 9mm carbine so I like your list of picks Chris, the other 2 I use are CZ p10c and Mossberg sc2c at which I changed the trigger from M-Carbo.
We all love high end guns but these vids are greatly appreciated
I know you're more of a Pistol guy, I would love to hear your thoughts on a particular 22 lr though. Would you be able to do a review on the Savage 64 precision rifle. It's under $500 and I think it deserves a review from the honest outlaw.
I preferred the 43X to the standard Shield Plus; just shot it better and it felt better in the hand. Still got an itch to try the Performance Center version.
CZ makes a fantastic firearm. I have a CZ 75b and I love it
Another great video! Can you do a list on top backup ccw's? Would be cool to see.
I’ve been seeing 365xl’ for $500, and I have trouble recommending the Glock 43x/48 unless they are Glock fans because once you add the shield arms mags and release, night sights you’re at a much higher price than the 365xl, and the sog being so modular you can change the gun as your needs change.
You know it’s gonna be a good video when Chris mentions the YSS
I think most people who buy a P365 intend on upgrading it. There is so much aftermarket stuff for the platform that you can make it compact size and almost full size yet still slim enough to conceal
Super support your 500 choice. Fantastic for an all around arm. Slugs for heavy hitting food or bad things. No problem. Options to adjust shot for multiple other uses too. Versatility is a big deal.
Just bought a M&P Shield Plus in 30 super carry in Okla. for $299.00. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but trusted your reviews so thanks.
Recently traded my p320rxp for a p226 mk25 with a grayguns trigger kit and x-ray sights and I’m very happy 😃
My Glock 43x was purchased about 2 years ago. It was a little over $500 but it came with night sights.