Say what you want, I LOVED this fight. The music, the vocals, made the atmosphere just perfect. Also the comment you can make about Raphael and his...prowess? Had me dieing.🤣🤣
fun fact: if you slept with the incubus that looks just like him. and sold him your body you can ask "how is raphael in bed." and the incubus would tell you he is horrible. later as you escape. you can mock him when he says it will take but a moment to finish you and you can say and I quote "That's twice as long as Haarlep said it takes to finish you." I was wheezing after my character spit out that line
Fun fact if Raphael gets way too powerful and one shotting your crew, hit him with planar binding and if it works he will become you’re Ally for a few seconds and then when he turns on you he reverts to his regular form with no buffs.
Yea, except unfortunately, to easily steal all loot necessary, whilst picking all locks in the archive, it’s easier to have Astarion with you, instead of Gale. Personally I run Paladin and always have shadow heart in my crew. So usually I only have two interchangeable slots, which for this fight I had Karlach and Astarion (only because of sleight of hand looting)
Raphael: "Any last words?" MC: "You are a boss, right? Why don't i hear a boss music?" Raphael:"Don't you worry. You'l get your boss music and the boss song too!"
I made Lae'zel menace him and then frightened him with Shadowheart. Then Gale, Lae'zel, and I just stomped him with summons and melee attacks. Homie only got one attack off before he died. I also used the black hole ability from Illithid powers and Gale one-shotted all of the other baddies. Such a good, fun, fair fight :)
I just saw someone uploaded of a video of this fight and didn't have the music on smh. Then in MY GAME, I had to reload the fight and when I did the generic music was playing. So tragic
I love Andrew Wincott. As a Warhammer fan, I love hearing him narrate 40K novels and I love how deliciously evil he can be. If you haven't heard of it, I recommend the Night Lords Trilogy. He is perfect in it.
One of the best fight in the game, I finally used the Runepowder barrel I was saving since Act 2, + blackhole destroying the pillars and almost killing the demons. Then Hope cast divine intervention to destroy most of them. Glorious battle
@@Daswobo This is so real lol. This game has has two legendary maces and probably only 1 origin character who should use it without reclassing. I picked Lathander's becuase it's just cooler.
The best thing I found is to take someone with eldritch blast. The pillars take double damage from force attacks. A warlock's triple eldritch blast will take one of them out in a single turn.
I had karlach jump to one and she also desteoyed one each turn. Think I had all in 2 turns. Then the group used all they had from the protection of a sphere of invincibility
They also take double damage from bludgeoning weapons. Berserker Karlach with Tavern Brawler and a supply of light hammers can knock them down real fast.
I lured all the Demons into the corridor next to the boss room and sealed the door with arcane lock. Once they were done, I only had to face the devil alone. 😊 Was a tough fight nonetheless though.
Just finished this fight, it was EPIC. Really loving this game. I had a hard time at first because I didn't realize you could destroy the soul pillars.
Used Otto's irresistible dance on Raphael, he was stunlocked the entire fight 😄 Got rid of the Cambions, destroyed the soul pillars and afterwards it was just my whole party hammering down on a stunned Raphael 😄
I like how different comps, for better or for worse, all have a chance at beating this. Just showcases the diversity and that you don’t need to min/max everything
If you haul in 8 smokepowder barrels and pre-place (on the way in) two next to each pillar, then after this boss fight starts you can blow them up (with fire) and make the fight a whole lot easier.
This fight and the accompanying music are still my favorite from the whole game. I've never been so excited to die in a fight multiple times so I could do it all again and keep listening
Had him laughing then prone for the rest of the fight, my myrmidon, taking out the Cambions and ln the end we gathered around Raphael and use him as a pinata
I'm sure when I was fighting Raphael he never entered into his Ascendant phase. I had Hold Monster on him and got him down to about 1/3 of his health when he broke out of the spell but I never saw his form change as shown at 19:00 in the video. He remained in his "human-looking" form right down to when he died.
Oh i wont tell my mate gale about this, he is still burned physically and mentally after a one silly little Infernoblast from Raphael, 8k or something... 😂
this worked for me: 1. globe of invulnerability, kill all the cambions and destroy the pillars from inside 2. 2x hold monster on raphael (he gets disadvantage with sorcerer's metamagic) 3. laezel 3 attacks per turno + haste while he's locked
If you have a high enough DC you can basically lock down raph for most of the fight with Tashas. The DC on my sorc was 23 iirc. I also used heightened to make sure he has disadvantage. This was a well done fight/area.
I used multiple Confusion, Sunbeam and 1 Otto’s dance scroll and cleaned house. Barely touched the pillars. Shadowheart and Hope were in charge of healing
I didnt consider breaking the pillars or anything and just focused as much damage on raphael as possible until he was dead.. all the other demons could be taken care of afterwards. Was a tough fight but I used Hope every turn to heal everyone.
having gale in the party with the staff of cherished necromancy and blight / circle of death on tap combined with a single casting of otto's irresistable dance from a scroll turns this fight piss easy. gale and karlach can wreck cambions in few turns and then you just gang up on raphael. i thought you could maybe save the souls trapped in the pillars, so i didn't bring them down. the resulting 27AC raphael is annoying as shit to hit with martial attacks, but with him dancing its just a matter of rolling the dice enough till he dies.
I killed him straight up at level 10 on tactician, no tricks, no cheese, no second try. It's really easy if you have Hope and manage to persuade the demon from Act 2 to help you out.
Ive started 3 playthroughs only JUST beat the game finally and i didnt even go here not understanding how. I MISSED OUT ON THE BEST SONG IN THE GAME WHAT?!
i had gale with disintegrate took down the pillars in 4 turns and then literally pulverized raph it seriously took almost a full 100 of of raph each turn it was a quick fight after he turned into the fire monster. any way you did great !
I literally just ran away (first putting a wall of thorns to keep the devils back a bit, and also had the big red Shrek as an ally) and kept putting cloud of daggers and other spells like that at every entrance until I reached the bath. The daggers killed all of their goons and then I used invulnerability dome while using Halsin air nymph to constantly daze Raphael (I would teleport back into the dome after attacking him) and it killed him easy. (My original plan was to use the healing bath to not die but it doesn’t work after you initiate combat)
Damn, my team took Raphael down so quick I didn't even know he had that "Ascension" form! I just ignored him whilst Gale punted each pillar in a single hit with magic missile, then Lae'zel knocked him prone, and then my team just beat him to death in two turns (Spellmight / Lightning Charge Evocation Gale casting level 6 magic missile using the item that'll give you an extra level 6 spellslot did most of the damage, about 400 on his own then 200 split between everyone else).
I guess I cheesed the fight… invulnerability and that one illithid power that makes you vulnerable are quite the blessing. (I gave Raphael the “heal when you attack but ur vulnerable lol” buff). Edit: yo wtf he turns into a dragon?
In my fight, I had my sorceror chug a potion of speed, and immediately downed the soul pillars with Disintegrate and Twinned Spell / Quickened Spell - the spell will always one-shot the pillars since its minimum damage is 50 and the pillars are weak to force / blunt damage. You want to kill the pillars ASAP, because as long as one stands, Raphael gets stronger each time one of your characters gets downed, and can basically one-shot any member of your team. His second phase is also severely weakened if the pillars are gone before he initiates it.
I had him dead before I got the pillars down. I noticed really early on while getting to hope that damn near every demon does fire damage, so I went and had everyone chug a fire resistance elixer well in advance. My shadowheart was respec'd into a tempest cleric, and my astarion was a bladebard/thief/warrior, my MC was a Conjuration Wizard, and I brought a pretty bog standard berserker karlach. First round, I drenched everything with a high level create water and after that I just hammered everything with electricity damage. I sent some of my summons after the pillars while my Air Myrmidon went around smacking demon bitches and body blocking. I had a couple ghouls from the Thracian necromancy book which basically just ran around and took hits from demons- which, the whole point I have those ghouls at all is because they don't take spell slots and the enemy will waste damage on them even though they are basically expendable. Electrified water can interrupt attempts to walk across it, heavily restricting the mobility of the demons, and my high ranged damage party basically just blasted the shit out of them. Karlach herself was immune to getting shocked so she could go where she pleased and I had her jumping around and ruining peoples day. Honestly, I didn't take enough damage to warrant healing until he got into his ascended form. I had Hope mostly just hanging around and playing it safe because she was the only character I was actually worried about dying. The thing is, there are ways I could have optimized my build and party better. And I kinda wish I had brought something better suited towards killing those pillars- my karlach was running around with Baluran's greatsword- which was definitely a mistake in retrospect. I had no real force damage, the only blunt damage came from *ice storm* and the mace Shadowheart had, and having Shadowheart actually use her mace is almost a wasted action because of how much damage her call lightning can do. Ice storm would freeze my wet surfaces, which was generally less valuable than an electrified surface- so I was hesitant to use it.
I've been stuck in this fight for 2 days, unfortunately since I'm not a champion in turn-based fights I'll have to accept the deal, otherwise I wouldn't have any hope
I went with calmer minds and set up a little Bomb of Extraordinary Proportions for Raphael and nuked the entire room, surprisingly most allies survived
I used Otto’s irresistible laughter and hold monster on Raphael and he never got any attacks off. I never saw his ascended form either 😂 that’s why I looked up this fight. Had to see if he could do anything cool
Seriously? Damn the amount of secrets we miss in the game are impressive... 🤣 I had to blast through using every Divine Intervention I had like "Please Gods, help me! I'm trying to get the fuck out of Hell!" 🤣
Good fight. I didn’t even break the pillars in my game, I used 2 globes of invulnerability scrolls and just melee’d the hell out of him lol. Hope comes in handy hardcore for this fight. I had no casters haha.
I did not even use the globe. After seeing the 666 count I almost gave up. I thought that the idiots had created another impossible obstacle ("more interesting"). But I went against the odds and little by little brought him down. I had to revive two characters after the battle and I lost his slave. Managed to overcome him with 10 xp. I had Shadowheart, Astarion, Laezel and my own edited wizard (human female) as leader. I was actually shocked that I managed to do it. And, yeah, i actually told a white lie: I had a protective shield put around Shadowheart for 10 turns. That was a crucial asset.
I just did this today. I was worried, but I think Gale went down at the start once. After that, my healing build on Shadowheart fixed ip his issues instantly.
I left my OP shadowheart in camp cause I always take those who I think are the most relevant to the place I am going... and I regretted that a lot here
This fight was much easier than I expected. Maybe I was super lucky. I counterspelled his first spell in his Ascended form (After I prioritized destroying the soul pillars), then proceeded with successfully casting hold monsters for three consecutive turns (he failed them all even though it had 55% chance of failing, although he did saved at the end of each of his turns). Meanwhile hope demolished all the other demons with her divined intervention and banish spells (I practically ignored the cambions, which happened to end up the correct choice since their damage is pathetic. They look daunting and badass but they practically high HP imps. Or maybe it was so pathetic because they directed their attack to my fire resistant party members). The big guy was causing havok as usual with his BS invisibility shenanigans but Hope took care of him too. I ended up ganging on Raphael with my entire party and 2 summons, stunning him, dazing him, frightening him. He ended up doing completely nothing the entire fight. I don't even know how devastating his attack are.
Stand in the center with your party, cast Globe of Invulnerability. Then have your ranged attackers attack the pillars and your strongest player target Raphael. I had Karlach pick up and throw the cambions and anything else away from the globe's perimeters then had the Ranged attackers pick them off. Easy Peasy.
I did this fight without touching the pillars and he never transformed? I just had Astarion sniping him from the shadows the whole fight and it was really easy. Kinda bummed because I thought he was gonna transform into that crazy true form but he literally just died. :/
I've found out that Raph and Harleep for some reason have very hard time resisting Tasha's Hideous Laughter. You basically cast the spell, then pummel them for 4-5 turns for free.
Everyone says that spells work on him well, when in my playthrough they either don't work or he get rid of them in one turn lol. Am I just unlucky or what? Eventually I summoned an elemental and Raphael never got up after this.
The fight has been patched. You're right. Tashia's hideous laughter and planar binding doesn't work on him. After his turn he automatically saves from the spell you cast! @julietm.5425
@@jonesjay515 It still costs the toughest boss in the game a full turn, at the cost of one PC's action and a 1st-level spell slot. You can just assign Gale to spam Tasha's on Raphael while the rest of the party deals with his minions and wrecks the pillars. Then Gale switches from Tasha's to Hold Monster, and everyone crowds in close to beat him down. Those 666 hit points melt away fast when three people are getting automatic crits on all their attacks.
Damn I just cast tasha's hideous laughter on him in the beginning of the fight and he never got to transform. He just layed on the floor and got his a*s handed to him by everyone for 10 rounds. That was on normal difficulty. I gotta reload an old save and redo this without cc.
Here's my issue: Ok, I'm new to these games, and I wanna like them.... but it seems if you dont build a party with initiative you are fucked, period. All the cheese in the world dont matter if your whole team goes last. I'm sitting here with level 12 chars but no one built to go first and its pretty much impossible... doesn't matter how many summons i bring in, when it finally gets to my turned, usually the party is devastated and Hope is dead. Ive tried positioning my party in every which way i can think of before starting the fight, I can't even get to my wizards turn to cast globe of invulnerability. Thats what I hate about the difficulty in this game... It seems to require you to know in advance whats about to happen. If not it just immediately throws you on the back foot and you are always constantly fighting from behind.... People will always suggest "oh what, you dont have 'insert devastating build with item combos you have previous knowledge of' or 'cheese #45'.... but those aren't... good? solutions.... they just prove that the game requires outside knowledge to play or knowledge of borderline exploits. So what choices do I have? Save scum and remake a 'meta' party that doesn't represent my playstyle even though I was crushing until this specific fight? Throw 2 hours of gameplay away to go stock on pots elixirs and pots (cheese #65)? I think fights like the Ansur fight are much better designed. Adds roll in in waves after the start and are slotted randomly. Feels much better than fight starts, initiative rolls aaaaand sweet, 20 mobs get to go before me, i can go take a piss and reload. I would honestly just prefer the game straight up TOLD me at the start to make sure I had multiple characters with very strong initiative or I would basically feel depressed at the start of every fight. Or just put less, stronger mobs. Waiting multiple minutes for your turn is so aggravating on some of these fights. Much bigger fan of real time with pause instead EXACTLY because of high density fights. edit: lol, just tried again, had a decent start.... hope got one shot.
@@Lance-xy8hv yeah i just put alert on everyone. Now i have the opposite problem I destroy everything. I think I just dont like fights with lots of enemies compared to boss fights with adds. Boss fights feel smoother, i dont have the patience to wait 20 turns.
@@starkiller34 I feel that. Wish there was a fast forward button or something for fights with tons of enemy. Watching 10 people dash in a row gets old quick
Could you go house of hope and leave it without the hammer and no killing Raphael? Or you have to fight him anyway? Its a pity, i like his character, and he always was ok with you a your companions, just deals
You can enter the house, you can walk if you want, but the moment you pick up the hammer or some object from the display case, it comes to fight. However, you can enter and leave the house without any problem if you have not stolen anything.
This must be a PC thing its not going like this on Xbox, fight starts he takes a shot, i get one guy to go then he has about 6 go and pretty much wipe the party of all level 12, gale gets demolished maybe an 1/8th health left but he rarely gets a turn before hes dropped..
Just use Globe of Invulnerability. Casted that and had everyone stand in it. Spawn in a Deva with Planar Ally and have him fly around to destroy pillars while you have Gale shoot magic as well to destroy them quick (or Eldrich Blast with Wyll) If the Cambions get in the globe, just shove them out. Once thats all done, just go all in on Raphael 😎. (People say the Cambions push you out of the globe but they didn't seem to know how to with me, they just tried and failed at hitting me lol)
How I beat him was cornering him with Yurgir and Karlach, ensaring him with Minsc, use stunned hits, and silenced him, so I just cornered and beat the crap out of him
Kind of wish he had HP in the thousands instead of hundreds. I was done with him in minutes - Divine Intervention AOE from Hope to wipe out the adds, then hold monster on Raphael while Karlach and Gale chunked him down with hits/magic missile.
try mods, i played him with "Stronger Bosses and Enemies" "Lethal AI Enemies" "Enemies Enhanced" "Tactician Plus", y any of those alone aint enought for act 3 to be meaningfully hard, AI makes them slightly smarter( less sucidal), enemies gives them more abilities, tactician + more hp ( +20% up to +300%, i like +100%) and more stats (optional). and stronger bosses gives bosses legendary action and more. sarevock becomes a pain tho. these mods will be found on Nexus mod, and if u don't mind reading a bit u'll quickly understand everything about how to install them! once u install 1 you know how to do so with the others. u'll be a pro in no time! u can fine tune things at your rythme. hope u'll like it, be aware that kiting still kills almost any boss. so if u just run away i don't have any mods to make opponent faster than you :D
I was afraid to spam divine intervention because the demons had a feedback against holy damage. I felt super satisfied with the fight though and had lots of fun
You know the fight is something else when it has its own theme song
It doesn't just have its own theme song. Raphael is singing his own lyrics. If you silence him, his part of the song goes away.
@@optimaltt6070 bro thinks hes in a musical
@@optimaltt6070Not true apparently ua-cam.com/video/tlusx1-JowI/v-deo.htmlsi=svo6-pIx73MtOCZZ
Say what you want, I LOVED this fight. The music, the vocals, made the atmosphere just perfect. Also the comment you can make about Raphael and his...prowess? Had me dieing.🤣🤣
He was harder than Cazador, and the Elder Brain. I went head on without knowing his abilities.
Him beguiling my party was so annoying!!!
fun fact: if you slept with the incubus that looks just like him. and sold him your body you can ask "how is raphael in bed." and the incubus would tell you he is horrible.
later as you escape. you can mock him when he says it will take but a moment to finish you
and you can say and I quote "That's twice as long as Haarlep said it takes to finish you." I was wheezing after my character spit out that line
That's amazing. I gave him my body but didn't ask about Raphael in bed. So sad I missed that amazing quip, thanks for sharing
That should have the dialogue option [Vicious Mockery] lmao.
-"Any last words, vermin?"
-"Your boytoy said you're a one-pump-chump."
Raphael:"You comptemptible little creature!"
I mean it’s a shame we didn’t get to sleep with the actual Raphael but it was close enough
Fun fact if Raphael gets way too powerful and one shotting your crew, hit him with planar binding and if it works he will become you’re Ally for a few seconds and then when he turns on you he reverts to his regular form with no buffs.
hold monster
Yea, except unfortunately, to easily steal all loot necessary, whilst picking all locks in the archive, it’s easier to have Astarion with you, instead of Gale. Personally I run Paladin and always have shadow heart in my crew. So usually I only have two interchangeable slots, which for this fight I had Karlach and Astarion (only because of sleight of hand looting)
@@TheGeem1 Hold monster indeed. I really didn't expected it to work as well as it did, but apparently that's all it took.
Fun fact: Barrelmancy will make quick work out of any enemy on the battlefield
@@smanly3274 other than act 1, where can I acquire a boat load of smoke powder and fire wine barrels? For science of course!
"Take away their free will, and they call you a Tyrant. Allow them to indulge it, and they become tyrants."
- Raphael, 1492 DR
Literally words to live by.
Raphael: "Any last words?"
MC: "You are a boss, right? Why don't i hear a boss music?"
Raphael:"Don't you worry. You'l get your boss music and the boss song too!"
1. Otto'ds dance raphael
2. Bind extraplanar being on a cambion
3. Spirit guardians on raphael
4. Unleash every fun spell you've waited to use
Hold monster and tashas laughter also works. He never got a turn lol
Yeah with Tashas he literally died laughing 😂.
I just had him grovel with Command spam. Literally groveled the whole fight. The irony.
I Otto Dance'd the man and had Shadowheart run laps around him with Necrotic Spirit Guardians 😂
I made Lae'zel menace him and then frightened him with Shadowheart. Then Gale, Lae'zel, and I just stomped him with summons and melee attacks. Homie only got one attack off before he died. I also used the black hole ability from Illithid powers and Gale one-shotted all of the other baddies. Such a good, fun, fair fight :)
I absolutely love the song, my favourite boss fight in the entire game.
I just saw someone uploaded of a video of this fight and didn't have the music on smh. Then in MY GAME, I had to reload the fight and when I did the generic music was playing. So tragic
the man devil sings his own theme song? ahahah.
Classic Disney villain
@@IdontevenwanachannelYup, That classic disney move of only having sex with somebody that looks exactly like you😂
Definitely heavy Hades from Hercules vibes from it. Fkn love it.
I love Andrew Wincott. As a Warhammer fan, I love hearing him narrate 40K novels and I love how deliciously evil he can be. If you haven't heard of it, I recommend the Night Lords Trilogy. He is perfect in it.
Holy shit, that sounds amazing!
Raphael would absolutely be a servant of both Slaanesh and Tzeentch
Damn Larian got us fighting Disney villains
One of the best fight in the game, I finally used the Runepowder barrel I was saving since Act 2, + blackhole destroying the pillars and almost killing the demons. Then Hope cast divine intervention to destroy most of them. Glorious battle
I used Hope's divine intervention to summon the legendary mace then had Shadowheart command her to drop it. Never ended up using it though lmaoo.
use the ice circle spell it doesnt target allies, does similar damage, is repeatable and doesn't kill hope losing you out on all the mass heal wards
@@Daswobo This is so real lol. This game has has two legendary maces and probably only 1 origin character who should use it without reclassing. I picked Lathander's becuase it's just cooler.
The best thing I found is to take someone with eldritch blast. The pillars take double damage from force attacks. A warlock's triple eldritch blast will take one of them out in a single turn.
I had karlach jump to one and she also desteoyed one each turn. Think I had all in 2 turns. Then the group used all they had from the protection of a sphere of invincibility
But if you have Paladin with Balduran's sword and maxed Astarion with haste buff on both...
i just threw a bunch of smokepowder bombs, it took about 3 bombs per pillar
Even better if the warlock has haste
They also take double damage from bludgeoning weapons. Berserker Karlach with Tavern Brawler and a supply of light hammers can knock them down real fast.
I lured all the Demons into the corridor next to the boss room and sealed the door with arcane lock. Once they were done, I only had to face the devil alone. 😊 Was a tough fight nonetheless though.
Very Smart!!!! I did not think of something like that at all. Nice strategy!
You got rid of them all but it was still tough? :P Yeesh, what level were you?
@@blacksunapocalypse Idk 12 I think but it was my very first playthrough and I didn't understand all the games mechanics back then^^
Lol u can do that?
I used hold person on him. 2xdivine smite (hope nad shadowheart). dropped him to 400, had 9 turns left before he unfreezes, whacked him in 6.
Just finished this fight, it was EPIC. Really loving this game. I had a hard time at first because I didn't realize you could destroy the soul pillars.
This is definitely a certified Rivers in the Desert moment
23:36 CLASSIC Shadowheart.
Used Otto's irresistible dance on Raphael, he was stunlocked the entire fight 😄 Got rid of the Cambions, destroyed the soul pillars and afterwards it was just my whole party hammering down on a stunned Raphael 😄
I love the timing at 3:15 when the lyrics are “Souls go to their dooms” and Karlach screams like that.
I like how different comps, for better or for worse, all have a chance at beating this. Just showcases the diversity and that you don’t need to min/max everything
coming to this part completely oblivious of what were to come, was definitely one of the best gaming moments of my life
How could you be oblivious to what's to come? The game even warns you as you're about to enter his domain.
I'm planning a sorcerer character and I had this exact party set up in mind. Glad to see it works!
I used the runepowder bomb i had as a leftover from another quest. Takes out 2 pillars and a few enemies in one go
Only 2? I got all 4 with mine.
P.s. Sphere of invulnerability ftw!
@@horrorfan117 I had to throw it to the opposite side as i didn't have a caster with me that could do the globe
I turned Raphael to stone using flesh to stone. Poor guy.
If you haul in 8 smokepowder barrels and pre-place (on the way in) two next to each pillar, then after this boss fight starts you can blow them up (with fire) and make the fight a whole lot easier.
This fight and the accompanying music are still my favorite from the whole game. I've never been so excited to die in a fight multiple times so I could do it all again and keep listening
He’s giving Preminger - Barbie in the Princess and the pauper
fun fact, if you stun him, he stops singing for a while
He is literally singing while he breaks your a with fireballs
This game is a masterpiece!
That's not actually true 🥲
Had him laughing then prone for the rest of the fight, my myrmidon, taking out the Cambions and ln the end we gathered around Raphael and use him as a pinata
They patched his weakness to Drow Poison.
Like geez every hit he fell asleep I was just repeating the smackdown over and over.
Now he's immune.
I'm sure when I was fighting Raphael he never entered into his Ascendant phase. I had Hold Monster on him and got him down to about 1/3 of his health when he broke out of the spell but I never saw his form change as shown at 19:00 in the video. He remained in his "human-looking" form right down to when he died.
I had Hold Monster on him from start to finish, he didn't do a single action ...
Oh i wont tell my mate gale about this, he is still burned physically and mentally after a one silly little Infernoblast from Raphael, 8k or something... 😂
this worked for me:
1. globe of invulnerability, kill all the cambions and destroy the pillars from inside
2. 2x hold monster on raphael (he gets disadvantage with sorcerer's metamagic)
3. laezel 3 attacks per turno + haste while he's locked
Just a few months after this and watching Karlach "rage against the dying of the light" with that scream during the song is freakin sweet
If you have a high enough DC you can basically lock down raph for most of the fight with Tashas. The DC on my sorc was 23 iirc. I also used heightened to make sure he has disadvantage.
This was a well done fight/area.
I used multiple Confusion, Sunbeam and 1 Otto’s dance scroll and cleaned house. Barely touched the pillars. Shadowheart and Hope were in charge of healing
I didnt consider breaking the pillars or anything and just focused as much damage on raphael as possible until he was dead.. all the other demons could be taken care of afterwards. Was a tough fight but I used Hope every turn to heal everyone.
It's always an epic experience, the fight, no matter you're playing yourself or watching someone else take down Raphael. Well done!!! Thanks!
I shat my pants in this fight. Can't believe the bastard sings his own theme.
the way he sings his own boss theme is so on brand
having gale in the party with the staff of cherished necromancy and blight / circle of death on tap combined with a single casting of otto's irresistable dance from a scroll turns this fight piss easy. gale and karlach can wreck cambions in few turns and then you just gang up on raphael. i thought you could maybe save the souls trapped in the pillars, so i didn't bring them down. the resulting 27AC raphael is annoying as shit to hit with martial attacks, but with him dancing its just a matter of rolling the dice enough till he dies.
This song made this boss fight my favourite ❤
Fun fact: one of the dialogue options to engage combat for him is making fun of how he finishes fast in bed
This bossfight was a hundred times better than the final boss of the game
I killed him straight up at level 10 on tactician, no tricks, no cheese, no second try. It's really easy if you have Hope and manage to persuade the demon from Act 2 to help you out.
All those bonuses to prep for the 30 roll and you get a crit 20😂
Ive started 3 playthroughs only JUST beat the game finally and i didnt even go here not understanding how. I MISSED OUT ON THE BEST SONG IN THE GAME WHAT?!
Such a great fight, dialog,music..just epic!
Somehow I missed this whole arc and fight in my playthrough. Shame as this is incredible stuff!!!
MAN you made your Karlach beefy. No doubt with that "Tough" feat, and her having most of your best gear on her lol.
Karlach is my love and requires all the HP
i had gale with disintegrate took down the pillars in 4 turns and then literally pulverized raph it seriously took almost a full 100 of of raph each turn it was a quick fight after he turned into the fire monster. any way you did great !
I hate Korilla so she’s dies first
The perfect example of when to use a rune powder bomb.
I literally just ran away (first putting a wall of thorns to keep the devils back a bit, and also had the big red Shrek as an ally) and kept putting cloud of daggers and other spells like that at every entrance until I reached the bath. The daggers killed all of their goons and then I used invulnerability dome while using Halsin air nymph to constantly daze Raphael (I would teleport back into the dome after attacking him) and it killed him easy. (My original plan was to use the healing bath to not die but it doesn’t work after you initiate combat)
best boss music since one winged angel
If you had told me a fight in this game turns into musical I would've thought, "I can endure that I guess", but turns out it's fucking hype as hell.
Tip to making this fight easy peasy: Otto's Irresistible Dance on Raphael.
Awwww Us giving the last hit :3 cute little good brain friend!
Nice battle! :D
I struck a 20 with Yrgur as well lol, no other buffs, it felt amazing
Damn, my team took Raphael down so quick I didn't even know he had that "Ascension" form! I just ignored him whilst Gale punted each pillar in a single hit with magic missile, then Lae'zel knocked him prone, and then my team just beat him to death in two turns (Spellmight / Lightning Charge Evocation Gale casting level 6 magic missile using the item that'll give you an extra level 6 spellslot did most of the damage, about 400 on his own then 200 split between everyone else).
I guess I cheesed the fight… invulnerability and that one illithid power that makes you vulnerable are quite the blessing. (I gave Raphael the “heal when you attack but ur vulnerable lol” buff).
Edit: yo wtf he turns into a dragon?
In my fight, I had my sorceror chug a potion of speed, and immediately downed the soul pillars with Disintegrate and Twinned Spell / Quickened Spell - the spell will always one-shot the pillars since its minimum damage is 50 and the pillars are weak to force / blunt damage.
You want to kill the pillars ASAP, because as long as one stands, Raphael gets stronger each time one of your characters gets downed, and can basically one-shot any member of your team. His second phase is also severely weakened if the pillars are gone before he initiates it.
I had him dead before I got the pillars down. I noticed really early on while getting to hope that damn near every demon does fire damage, so I went and had everyone chug a fire resistance elixer well in advance. My shadowheart was respec'd into a tempest cleric, and my astarion was a bladebard/thief/warrior, my MC was a Conjuration Wizard, and I brought a pretty bog standard berserker karlach. First round, I drenched everything with a high level create water and after that I just hammered everything with electricity damage. I sent some of my summons after the pillars while my Air Myrmidon went around smacking demon bitches and body blocking. I had a couple ghouls from the Thracian necromancy book which basically just ran around and took hits from demons- which, the whole point I have those ghouls at all is because they don't take spell slots and the enemy will waste damage on them even though they are basically expendable.
Electrified water can interrupt attempts to walk across it, heavily restricting the mobility of the demons, and my high ranged damage party basically just blasted the shit out of them. Karlach herself was immune to getting shocked so she could go where she pleased and I had her jumping around and ruining peoples day.
Honestly, I didn't take enough damage to warrant healing until he got into his ascended form. I had Hope mostly just hanging around and playing it safe because she was the only character I was actually worried about dying.
The thing is, there are ways I could have optimized my build and party better. And I kinda wish I had brought something better suited towards killing those pillars- my karlach was running around with Baluran's greatsword- which was definitely a mistake in retrospect. I had no real force damage, the only blunt damage came from *ice storm* and the mace Shadowheart had, and having Shadowheart actually use her mace is almost a wasted action because of how much damage her call lightning can do. Ice storm would freeze my wet surfaces, which was generally less valuable than an electrified surface- so I was hesitant to use it.
Most epic fight in the game
I've been stuck in this fight for 2 days, unfortunately since I'm not a champion in turn-based fights I'll have to accept the deal, otherwise I wouldn't have any hope
Raphael is scared of ranged attacks and globe of invulnerability
Man was so cool he has his own song.
I light was lost in this battle and music. Well done very well done!!!
I went with calmer minds and set up a little Bomb of Extraordinary Proportions for Raphael and nuked the entire room, surprisingly most allies survived
If you cast silence spell on him he’ll stop singing song
my Storm Sorcerer ran Ralphael over with Chain Lightning (Legendary Staff that gives you Chain Lightning as an action with no spell slot requirement)
I hasted my mage and bard and then just unloaded scrolls of disintegration on him for a few rounds till he died.
This is the greatest boss song ever!!! WOW
I used Otto’s irresistible laughter and hold monster on Raphael and he never got any attacks off. I never saw his ascended form either 😂 that’s why I looked up this fight. Had to see if he could do anything cool
the hammer you get hear can destroy a pillar with just two hits. It hits 100% every time
Karlach used it in this video, she loved it haha
Seriously? Damn the amount of secrets we miss in the game are impressive... 🤣 I had to blast through using every Divine Intervention I had like "Please Gods, help me! I'm trying to get the fuck out of Hell!" 🤣
@@ivanberdichevsky5679lol same here buddy.
Good fight. I didn’t even break the pillars in my game, I used 2 globes of invulnerability scrolls and just melee’d the hell out of him lol. Hope comes in handy hardcore for this fight. I had no casters haha.
I did not even use the globe. After seeing the 666 count I almost gave up. I thought that the idiots had created another impossible obstacle ("more interesting"). But I went against the odds and little by little brought him down. I had to revive two characters after the battle and I lost his slave. Managed to overcome him with 10 xp. I had Shadowheart, Astarion, Laezel and my own edited wizard (human female) as leader. I was actually shocked that I managed to do it. And, yeah, i actually told a white lie: I had a protective shield put around Shadowheart for 10 turns. That was a crucial asset.
I just did this today. I was worried, but I think Gale went down at the start once. After that, my healing build on Shadowheart fixed ip his issues instantly.
I left my OP shadowheart in camp cause I always take those who I think are the most relevant to the place I am going... and I regretted that a lot here
This fight was much easier than I expected. Maybe I was super lucky. I counterspelled his first spell in his Ascended form (After I prioritized destroying the soul pillars), then proceeded with successfully casting hold monsters for three consecutive turns (he failed them all even though it had 55% chance of failing, although he did saved at the end of each of his turns). Meanwhile hope demolished all the other demons with her divined intervention and banish spells (I practically ignored the cambions, which happened to end up the correct choice since their damage is pathetic. They look daunting and badass but they practically high HP imps. Or maybe it was so pathetic because they directed their attack to my fire resistant party members). The big guy was causing havok as usual with his BS invisibility shenanigans but Hope took care of him too. I ended up ganging on Raphael with my entire party and 2 summons, stunning him, dazing him, frightening him. He ended up doing completely nothing the entire fight. I don't even know how devastating his attack are.
He didn't even turn into his final form in my battle lol, surprised to see he could change.
i didnt know he could transform lmaooo. I rushed him so bad he was always stunned, paralyzed or held by magic.
Raphael is about to learn a hard lesson about whats fair
Stand in the center with your party, cast Globe of Invulnerability. Then have your ranged attackers attack the pillars and your strongest player target Raphael. I had Karlach pick up and throw the cambions and anything else away from the globe's perimeters then had the Ranged attackers pick them off. Easy Peasy.
I did this fight without touching the pillars and he never transformed? I just had Astarion sniping him from the shadows the whole fight and it was really easy. Kinda bummed because I thought he was gonna transform into that crazy true form but he literally just died. :/
I've found out that Raph and Harleep for some reason have very hard time resisting Tasha's Hideous Laughter. You basically cast the spell, then pummel them for 4-5 turns for free.
Everyone says that spells work on him well, when in my playthrough they either don't work or he get rid of them in one turn lol. Am I just unlucky or what?
Eventually I summoned an elemental and Raphael never got up after this.
The fight has been patched. You're right. Tashia's hideous laughter and planar binding doesn't work on him. After his turn he automatically saves from the spell you cast! @julietm.5425
@@jonesjay515 It still costs the toughest boss in the game a full turn, at the cost of one PC's action and a 1st-level spell slot. You can just assign Gale to spam Tasha's on Raphael while the rest of the party deals with his minions and wrecks the pillars. Then Gale switches from Tasha's to Hold Monster, and everyone crowds in close to beat him down. Those 666 hit points melt away fast when three people are getting automatic crits on all their attacks.
Hope used divine intervention in this fight in my game. They died instantly.
WoW!! The ost its so great!
It would be fantastic fight this battle with a custom character named Jesus
Damn I just cast tasha's hideous laughter on him in the beginning of the fight and he never got to transform.
He just layed on the floor and got his a*s handed to him by everyone for 10 rounds. That was on normal difficulty.
I gotta reload an old save and redo this without cc.
Here's my issue: Ok, I'm new to these games, and I wanna like them.... but it seems if you dont build a party with initiative you are fucked, period. All the cheese in the world dont matter if your whole team goes last. I'm sitting here with level 12 chars but no one built to go first and its pretty much impossible... doesn't matter how many summons i bring in, when it finally gets to my turned, usually the party is devastated and Hope is dead. Ive tried positioning my party in every which way i can think of before starting the fight, I can't even get to my wizards turn to cast globe of invulnerability.
Thats what I hate about the difficulty in this game... It seems to require you to know in advance whats about to happen. If not it just immediately throws you on the back foot and you are always constantly fighting from behind.... People will always suggest "oh what, you dont have 'insert devastating build with item combos you have previous knowledge of' or 'cheese #45'.... but those aren't... good? solutions.... they just prove that the game requires outside knowledge to play or knowledge of borderline exploits.
So what choices do I have? Save scum and remake a 'meta' party that doesn't represent my playstyle even though I was crushing until this specific fight? Throw 2 hours of gameplay away to go stock on pots elixirs and pots (cheese #65)?
I think fights like the Ansur fight are much better designed. Adds roll in in waves after the start and are slotted randomly. Feels much better than fight starts, initiative rolls aaaaand sweet, 20 mobs get to go before me, i can go take a piss and reload. I would honestly just prefer the game straight up TOLD me at the start to make sure I had multiple characters with very strong initiative or I would basically feel depressed at the start of every fight. Or just put less, stronger mobs. Waiting multiple minutes for your turn is so aggravating on some of these fights. Much bigger fan of real time with pause instead EXACTLY because of high density fights.
edit: lol, just tried again, had a decent start.... hope got one shot.
Chose the alert feat I have it on 3 of my party members and they always go first
@@Lance-xy8hv yeah i just put alert on everyone. Now i have the opposite problem I destroy everything. I think I just dont like fights with lots of enemies compared to boss fights with adds. Boss fights feel smoother, i dont have the patience to wait 20 turns.
@@starkiller34 I feel that. Wish there was a fast forward button or something for fights with tons of enemy. Watching 10 people dash in a row gets old quick
Could you go house of hope and leave it without the hammer and no killing Raphael? Or you have to fight him anyway? Its a pity, i like his character, and he always was ok with you a your companions, just deals
You can enter the house, you can walk if you want, but the moment you pick up the hammer or some object from the display case, it comes to fight. However, you can enter and leave the house without any problem if you have not stolen anything.
@@ianpd2541 you can stole the gloves, the necklace, golden camera, kills harleep and still leave the house of hope without fight.
Did it yesterday😅
@@clavedegato9263whaaat? How did you do that, since the only way out is through the portal, I think
Ottos dance this, hold monster that, I let him power up for funsies
This must be a PC thing its not going like this on Xbox, fight starts he takes a shot, i get one guy to go then he has about 6 go and pretty much wipe the party of all level 12, gale gets demolished maybe an 1/8th health left but he rarely gets a turn before hes dropped..
Wait i thought he didn't attack you. I knew you couldnt trust a devil.
Just use Globe of Invulnerability. Casted that and had everyone stand in it. Spawn in a Deva with Planar Ally and have him fly around to destroy pillars while you have Gale shoot magic as well to destroy them quick (or Eldrich Blast with Wyll) If the Cambions get in the globe, just shove them out. Once thats all done, just go all in on Raphael 😎. (People say the Cambions push you out of the globe but they didn't seem to know how to with me, they just tried and failed at hitting me lol)
Funny thing about this fight is that if you silence Raphael, he stops singing.
Crazy i never fought him because one glitch where my friend tried to kill him early. This music pops off tho
When you take "A hand? Anyone?" too far
For me, he sits at the head of the table... with Nerevar and Illusive Man...
...is worthy
How I beat him was cornering him with Yurgir and Karlach, ensaring him with Minsc, use stunned hits, and silenced him, so I just cornered and beat the crap out of him
I just hit him with Ottos Dance and walloped him while he danced to his own tune
Kind of wish he had HP in the thousands instead of hundreds. I was done with him in minutes - Divine Intervention AOE from Hope to wipe out the adds, then hold monster on Raphael while Karlach and Gale chunked him down with hits/magic missile.
try mods, i played him with "Stronger Bosses and Enemies" "Lethal AI Enemies" "Enemies Enhanced" "Tactician Plus", y any of those alone aint enought for act 3 to be meaningfully hard, AI makes them slightly smarter( less sucidal), enemies gives them more abilities, tactician + more hp ( +20% up to +300%, i like +100%) and more stats (optional). and stronger bosses gives bosses legendary action and more. sarevock becomes a pain tho.
these mods will be found on Nexus mod, and if u don't mind reading a bit u'll quickly understand everything about how to install them! once u install 1 you know how to do so with the others. u'll be a pro in no time!
u can fine tune things at your rythme. hope u'll like it,
be aware that kiting still kills almost any boss. so if u just run away i don't have any mods to make opponent faster than you :D
Always knock out hopes sister, she thanks you for not killing her during the fight 😇
lmfao I didnt even know he had a transformation, I just spammed divine interventions (2 from SH and 1 from Hope) so he never actually got to transform
I was afraid to spam divine intervention because the demons had a feedback against holy damage. I felt super satisfied with the fight though and had lots of fun
BEST FIGHT IN A COMPUTER GAME EVER!