Big Brother 25 Review
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Reviewing the season of Big Brother 25. Was it good, bad, or somewhere in between? Is it a top tier season or one of the worst? Here are my thoughts!
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It should be worth noting that of the 4 votes cast against the majority, half of them were Cirie being unable to bring herself to vote out her kids.
She said her biggest fault game wise is her loyalty to the people she truly cares about. Matt, Izzy, and of course Jared were the main three.
@@AGJ117 but even then Cirie had a lot of good game moves but her alliance just wouldn’t listen to her she told them Cameron needed to go before Riley they didn’t listen she told them Hisam needed to stay as their shield they didn’t listen I feel like they would’ve made it further had they listened to her in the early games
I agree with a lot of this but strongly disagree with your Jared take. Jared was there to give Cirie a handicap. Otherwise she’d steamroll the entire game. Jared makes it an even playing field for the rest.
Great video! As a side note, my biggest issue with the show is as a non-feed viewer, it’s almost all smoke and mirrors. Being ignorant to the real relationships and accurate alliances for the drama build up on the show just isn’t worth it. They’ve gotta bridge this gap between casual and hardcore watchers to formulate a real community
exactly, the show is such a bastardized retelling of the actual events that it’s not a surprise we have cameron ended up as AFP when he was actually a creepy shit for most of the season.
they need to fix the editing of the show
The youtuber - Kay LA Fro - does live feed updates. She did two videos a week, I watched those to get spoilers then I would watch the episodes when they came out .
Also.
Uh.
Cameron is the best .
@@Mr.CandleGuyEw
@TheMurrmursonbottle Cameron was the best, I watched the feeds a little and watch recaps of the live feeds. Have yet to find any evidence Cameron was an actual creep. Just a lot of people who easily drop the label with no actual evidence of it
Zombie week was sooooo bad. It was called “scary week” but nothing scary happened…. And then they gave them gift baskets??? It was such a slow and frustrating week on feeds 😭
It was a scary week because it murdered the season
It was probably the most boring week in the BB house since season 1
Cameron winning AFP is still wild to me.
It will always be
I’m only surprised that he beat Cirie, but he definitely went against the house every week and made it to the jury.
The edit did WONDERS for him
Similar to Cody winning in BB19, when you go against the majority you get painted as the underdog and thus get a lot of fans
His heroic edit was so jarringly different from how he was on feeds. It is what it is ig
It’s just wild to me that this season would have had a different ending if just one week (week 2 or 3) had been different
That's every season though
You mean Week 4?
@@ericzubyk2329 red?
Red and Cameron should have been final 2🥺
That’s how every season works unfortunately
The season would have been so much better if they didn't have 2 battle backs. Imagine Jag, Jared, and Cam all out before jury.
Endgame would have been soooo much better
Jag wasn't a battle back. Matt won the comp to grant an eviction overthrow and he used it on Jag.
Seriously though.
U mean where it would have been 75 to 82 days. CBS needs to realize less is more
Yessss
I think when you made the tweet asking people what their feelings were on the season, I said Zombie Week was probably the period where all momentum of the season crashed into a wall and then proceeded to limp to the finish line.
The comp equity was really bad and I feel like it felt especially lopsided this year because casting brought in more older house guests. While that diversity was nice what it led to was the comp beast keeping them around and picking off the few (Jared, Cameron) who could actually beat them competitions and just steamrolling to end.
Add to that you have someone like Bowie Jane who despite winning some comps and actually have a solid resume for herself ironically had no win equity because she was perfectly content being the goat for Jag and Matt because she wanted them to win more. It was just a real enthusiasm crushing experience.
not only did a lot of the viewers lose momentum during zombie week, but tbh i saw a lot of the houseguests lose momentum and passion during that time too, i can imagine going from such a high that was the double eviciton only for it to come crashing down must have sucked a lot of life out of them as well.
Wasn’t Blue the only woman to win the POV all season? And yeah this season peaked at Izzy’s eviction and hit a complete wall after Cory’s
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf yeah by the time of Cory's eviction it felt like a lot of the tone shifted to being resigned because there was no stopping Jag at that point. And then most frustratingly he got to be HOH two weeks in a row thanks to the invisible HOH.
After they got rid of all the people the would be good in comps jag had an easy win.
@@erinmineo830 at that point it wasn't even about strategy anymore. Hisam was evicted, then jared, then cameron, then cory bc he could theoretically beat them in mental comps, then blue bc she won (one) veto, then america bc she did better than cirie and felicia, then cirie bc she did better until finally felicia was evicted. :(
100% agree on the unfairness of the Cirie twist. I think fellow Cirie fans are hesitant to call the twist unfair because they see how horribly Jared affected her game at times, but it doesn’t negate the fact that having a family member play the game with you, someone going into the house who is guaranteed to be loyal to you (even if they impact your game poorly at times) is absolutely an advantage in multipleeeee different ways. (not to mention her not having to play in the first competitions) but,like you said, BB has never been “fair” so this is nothing new
Not including Jared negatively affecting Cirie's game, as you mentioned, the twist wasn't that unfair. Cirie was the only vet from a previous show in a house with 16 rookies. The numbers were against her but we dont mention it because we're used to BB vets being outnumbered. Production needed to help her out somehow or else she could've been eliminated early
Cirie also had trust in Izzy as a benefit of the twist. And she didn't really question anything Izzy or Jared told her, so if they said something negative or false, a player couldn't talk their way out of it.
@@MtVesuvius Izzy would've worked with Cirie regardless
@@spdprawcereal7181 In practice, that's not really how it works. Look at Boston Rob in Redemption Island. Being a four-time player was a massive advantage. Secretly having a family member in the game is a huge advantage. It just turned out that Jared is a terrible player. Also, there were a number of Cirie fans (Izzy being the most obvious example) in this cast, so her being a Survivor legend actually benefited her rather than working against her.
@@spdprawcereal7181I don't think giving veterans safety early on is fair, as it allows them to be even more reliable of an ally to the newbies and they are likely to form a strong alliance around that. We saw it in bb19 with Paul, Veterans usually get clipped almost immediately or make very deep runs (pretty sure that there hasn't been a season with a returning veteran where
none of them made it to final 3), so by giving them early game immunity you are just kind of taking away the counterplay and makes the game less fun and dynamic to me. If you come into the game with a massive target, you should have to live with the target. Might not be the best for tv, but I think it's best for an interesting game.
I wish we got to see Cirie play this BB season without Jared. A big part of why Cirie chose to play in BB25 was because she wanted to play a game like this with a family member, but the ironic part is that Cirie would have likely been better without Jared in the season. She has to cover for him and his reckless gameplay along with making decisions that were worse off for her and cutting potential allies since she didn't want to betray him. She could have had better connections with other cast members like Felicia, Red, Cory, and America if not for Jared causing strife with them in favor of a superficial relationship with Blue.
This season had so much potential. The live feeds at the beginning of this season were crazy with the amount of flip flopping, and I was absolutely entertained through the thrill of it all.
However, once Izzy left the chaos of that kind of died off. But the bad side of the season teared it’s head during zombie week, which a whole week of NOTHING happening was just completely asinine to me. Once F9 happened, Jag, Matt and Bowie just completely steamrolled due to horrid comp inequity (How were Cirie and Felicia supposed to beat an Olympian and a fit man in his 20s in comps that were mostly physical?)
After zombie week, the season just completely died off with the steamroll and there was no saving it at all. Letting Jag win HOH 2 weeks in a row was extremely puzzling, and made for horrid entertainment. Overall, great beginning, but an extremely disappointing endgame considering how stale it got. And the treatment and exclusion of Cirie and Felicia at the Final 5 was very uncomfortable and repulsive to watch.
I felt like there were some entertainment with Felicia. Her argument with cirie and Cory and America was gold but after that bowie pissed me off.
really anyone in that final 3 shouldn't have made it that far. the way they treated felicia and cerie then just felicia was beyond fucked up. matt threw when answering the jurys questions. corey even said they were going to vote for matt but his answers made them not.
They made it that far because of comps. That's how modern big brother works.
@@discoelysia it’s not that hard to beat 2 senior citizens tho. It would honestly be a bit embarrassing if they lost. I don’t mean that as an insult to Felicia or Cerie they’re two of my favorites from this season
@@Beasty2023 oh I fully agree and Felicia and Cirie would too haha. I’m not in favor of comps being so important to modern bb, it takes so much momentum out of the season.
Cory said that it was Matt's terrible goodbye messages where he didn't take credit for anything. They made their decision before jury questioning.
The only reason bb24 had the chance to be great was because the “good guys” were athletic and the unbearable 40+ people were losers. This season is an example of the exact opposite. The likable old people never had a chance at all in the competitions. Taylor winning was so refreshing to have someone win without being a comp-beast but this season was never going to end like that. It seems like producers didn’t want another non comp beast winner and that Taylor’s win was a fluke. It was so dejecting watching the most likable old people be kept to the end to easily be picked off. It just wasn’t fun for me.
The multiverse theme had so much potential but was absolutely wasted, production fumbled the bag by restricting themselves to 4 universes only
Also just the absolute worst ideas for the 4 universes. Was The Humiliverse a necessary addition to the BB lexicon?
@@handsoaphandsoapyes
No, production started fumbling around season 11. I still watch every season but it is just a garbage show now.
At the beginning of the season, I understand showing the clips of people telling their reasons for wanting to win competitions or not win competitions because there's less time to explain in an episode what's going on with everyone. But it kills me the closer they get to the end when every single person tells you why they want to win the competition. Like. That's the point. To win. It just eats up time and I always wanna skip through it.
What’s really frustrating about bb25 is the potential to be really good was right there. There was SO much personality in the cast and everyone more or less seemed like they were there to play HARD. But the twists and lack of comp equity is what really drags it down. By f5, I was just ready for it to be over
I’m just tired of every vote being unanimous. I’ve heard it’s because they don’t want to go against the house, but why can survivor players do that but BB players don’t?
I love how this became a rant on the production cause it was a good season ruined by the repetitive and predictable comps and crazy op twists. This was my very first season I’ve ever watched fully but based on you and ethanmals top 5 videos, I see comps repeat themselves ALOT it’s kinda crazy. Like I think Izzy sells practice kits for bb it’s so predictable.
I’m not bitter. I’m fine with Jag winning. But I do think Matt played a better game. Matt would’ve made it to final 4 with or without Jag. Jag wouldn’t have made it to jury without Matt
Facts. I think it's positive either way, but with Matt, for me, it would've been a lot more positive.
Facts I said the same thing
Jag deserved the win because he ran the table once Cory left. Just steamrolled. Matt HAD to keep Cirie over Felicia. It would have helped his speech to say he made sure he had multiple paths but instead gave jag a great example of how he WAS the leader. In NO way shoukd matt let Cirie go out there
He was easier to like but Jag beat him. Dude let jag take out Cirie when she was always taking Matt and jag was willing to keep her if he argued it better
@@aaronsmith4806 Yeah honestly, the fact that he put up Cirie to appease Jag basically killed the idea that the two were "equal" partners. And allegedly according to Cory, in both Matt's goodbye messages to America and Blue he pinned all of his betrayals on Jag so that is what led to the jury being convinced that he was Jag's minion. The fact that he in a last ditch effort to save face tried to 180 during the Jury Questions was the death knell.
"Since Season 10" probably means "Since Grodner was able to finish replacing any resistance to building the production and design atmosphere she wanted."
@21:00 "Did we need Jared at all?" I hope we all collectively yelled no.
I wanted to like this season more, but all the "non evictions" were just...so transparent about what the producers were doing. Wish it would have been a little more organic.
Exactly! Please STOP WITH THE TWISTS 😔
this was my first time watching a season of bb. i loved the chaos of the first half, but then everything became so boring and predictable because nobody besides cirie wanted to change the status quo
This paints a false narrative-- America and Cory wanted to evict Jag every week after F9 and so did Felicia and Cirie, even Blue somtimes, but the comp equity was so terrible the only people who won comps were Jag, Matt and Bowie in the endgame (barring Blue's one veto win). Jag was immune from eviction from final 9 with his alliance to Cameron, there was literally no way to move the game forward.
Please go back and watch a truly solid season! Highly recommend S3, S6, S7, S10, S14, S20, and S24 as some personal highlights!
I'd like to add S17 to the list BrianLikesBeans created as well as it holds one of the most complex social games in the show's history
@@Wraiven22 hell even BB4, BB5, are really solid too.
The invisible hoh twist was so dumb why was Jag able to complete in 2 hohs back to back and he won 🥱🤦🏾
If Riley's and Hisem's HOH-to-evictee back to back journeys had taken place in the middle of the season and not in the 2nd and 3rd week respectively....this probably would have been one of the top seasons. They were two strong players with big personalities and the backdooring of Hisem was probably one of the most satisfying and successful back doors in BB history....again it was just too early.
MeMe had the potential to be a MUCH bigger player in the game she was smart and witty and it's a crime that production didn't include any of her pantry-rants in the episodes because those were the best moments on the feeds. But she decided to lay low and just vent to herself and the viewers instead of making waves and moves.
I really want the vote count to not be revealed. I think people would go against the grain waaay more often
You mean the vote for the winner right
@@nooby2907 nah eliminations every week
@@SuperF1n3 I don't think not revealing the count would have that great of an affect, maybe more sympathy votes but otherwise nothing
I'm a.survivor fan and have always liked Cirie - but the deck was so stacked in her favor at the beginning I found myself rooting for anyone but Cirie and her goons
Wym stacked in her favor. She was one vet vs 16 rookies. She was outnumbered
Yeah just one vet, her son, Izzy one of her biggest fans, Cory who also loved her from survivor which his brother also competed in as well as Cirie dodging the night one nominations
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf damn didn't know Jared, Izzy, and Cory were all vets😱
One vet, her son who is somebody she can trust implicitly who is basically a No. 1 that will never flip, and 2 of her biggest fans that decided not to oust Jared and Cirie’s secret because they simply LOVED her that much
You act like if they’re not a veteran then there’s no advantage but she was never alone and had several people cast to push her game forward
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf 4 > 13?
Great review, Peridiam. I agree that Kirsten should have been allowed to stay and that Jared should have been held to the same standard as Luke. Very insightful, pointing out that the show stagnated around “zombie week”. I too was rooting for Cory and America, so I was dismayed when the game lost traction the week of their downfall.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the 7 player jury compared to 9 player jury as well as the implementation of the multiple POVs in 1 week. Thanks for doing these videos!
Love the jury being only 7 - I think it’s the way to go. 9 is too many and groupthink really forms the larger the group is (there’s data to back this up). 7 is the perfect number.
I don’t need multiple vetos but if they were to happen, only do it for the first half of the season, or even just the first few weeks when there’s more people.
I personally think Felicia was by far the most entertaining person to watch. While Blue and Jared were the hardest to stomach.
I think I’m the only person in the world who found blue’s confessionals funny.
Felicia was the only sliver lining in this terrible season.. ⭐️✨
I was all for Felicia's DRs, mainly where she dragged how useless BJ was.
@spilledsalt4862 she's funny in a cringy way because she was putting on a character the whole time.
I could not stand either Jared or Blue. So glad to see them go. So cringe. Ick
The aftermath of pressure cooker was by far the most frustrating thing the producers did on the show in many years. Hyped up that comp all summer and then it was essentially the least meaningful comp of season despite being a long endurance comp. Those are supposed to be historic and clutch comps where legends are made
We need another season with Hisam, Izzy, and Cory on again. Make it a season with 3 hard players and super fans from 5 different seasons and see what happens.
Ugh, I can certainly do without Izzie and Hissam, right?
Just Izzy and hisam bc Cory ruined the season he’s an annoying player
I honestly wish there was a season with just crapshoot comps. Felica’s HOH week was so messy and the HOH competition that week was a crapshoot. It would be constant power shifts and be so fun
Whoever is coming up with ideas for these shows is running out.
More luck based comps where u can score 5 or 500 points lol
Loved watching Cirie in real time!
i will say something about the comps, for me the simpler the better. Stuff like the wall and pressure cooker are my favs. more stuff like that would be fine with me.
I loved the multiverse twist thing, it was fun to see each of the different themes, and the weeks based off of each theme, but I agree the season just staled out. The producers desperately need a shake up with the comps, they need to be more challenging and less same samey. Casting also needs a shakeup, no more recruits, no more people that are already so rich they don’t care enough about the money, I want super fans that are desperate to win and will do whatever it takes to do it, that also have big personalities and aren’t afraid to fight and go against the grain
I have a lot of respect to the people who aren’t bitter at this season, because I really am with jag and cam being my least favorite winners and AFP respectively. Having to see certain people get boosted by the edit while the real happenings of the game on the feeds for 100 days really sullied my view on the projection of this game…. Unfortunately it might be my last season watching
“Oh and Cirie, get yo child” 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m hollering 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
I love Cirie, but the part about her and Jared being unfair is perfect. I often get frustrated by Taran, but rarely more than when he basically said he didn't care about this. He claims to be the unbiased and pure voice of BB every season and people need to stop listening to it.
Who is Taran?
What I found the funniest this year with CBS is that this Big Brother season was very lack luster, but Survivor is doing amazing! Either way, I love both of these shows and will always watch.
I still can't get over that bowi Jane got the record of not being on the block
This was my first BB season, and the rollercoaster of of interest, some weeks I was peaking in at the live feeds and checking twitter and recaps and others I was just like "eh I'll just watch all the episodes before the live eviction on Thursday." I loved Cirie (she and Matt were my top two as the had some of the best social games in the house, and if it as purely social they probably would have been the top two), she to me was a highlight of the season and her "I'd congratulate Jag if he wasn't going up against two senior citizens, an air head, and an idiot" lives in my head rent free, and 1,000% agree Jared should either not have been there, or should have been removed after the ableist slur came out, because she was so tied down by him. I am hoping that the producers take a look at the very least the way the season played out and the fact that America(?) called out production for having too many physical comps and decide to change things up, I know it was a 25th anniversary and all, but when you have the same 4 people winning a majority of the comps it's time to maybe have a bit of introspection.
What i love about this season is the amount of iconic houseguests it gave us. I’m glad I got to watch people like america, felicia, izzy & hisam.
Honestly, Izzy and Hisam being evicted early was a huge halt. Zombie week sucked because if they wanted to drag the season along then they shouldn’t have had a double eviction and then made it meaningless. They could’ve had a battle back during Izzy’s eviction 😂.
Definitely agree with most of what you said. I also had it in the top 10 for the first half and by the end I have put it at 21st. It might get a bump a bit higher when I re-evaluate with more time away from it, let some of the bitterness from the slog of the last few weeks disapte lol. It was such a hard season to consider as a whole though, because overall I think it was a great cast, and it was one of the most entertaining seasons for those first 40ish days. Even if there wasn't *great* gameplay from everyone, everyone *was* playing and that was great to see.
I totally think production ruined this season, from their atrocious twists that killed momentum like zombie week to their predictable, inequitable comps. One of the main things I was really feeling this season was like production just doesn't even care anymore. With the lazy reusing of stuff and the edit composed of such a heavy comp focus - taking fantastic content from the early weeks that should have been slam-dunk episodes and ignoring it all in favor of the most bare-bones, boring edits - it just felt like everyone was phoning it in this season instead of putting the passion and care behind creating a fantastic season of Big Brother. And that was really sad to see, especially since this season started with such potential. They also hyped it up so much as their big 25th season and for what really?
I'm always going to have fond memories of it; Cirie was a treat and there were a ton of little moments that made me laugh or are in my top sound bites of all time, but looking at what we got as a whole... no matter how much potential there was, it's always gonna fall in the bottom half for me. I have a bad feeling it's not gonna be a good re-watch either since most of that fun and potential was from the first half of feeds. A sad but unfortunate truth I think, I mourn for what we could have gotten out of season 25.
Thank you for taking the time to lay out your thoughts, it was a fantastic and level evaluation of the season! I know you typically stick to shorter vids, but I definitely wouldn't mind more long/thurough content like this from you.
I think had BB25 been 2 to 3 Weems shorter we wouldn't have that power or the zombie week. It really goes less is more. Big Brother sweet spot is 75 to 82 days. I think less is more and u move the game faster. The cast seemed ready for it to end the last 2 weeks. BB25 did enough to be a mid teir season. I hope this is the last long season
i love big brother, it’s a great show and has a great concept.. however.. they have such potential to be great again.. they need a cast full of 16 superfans. I hate seeing people put on a face and are there for the cameras.
Thank You so much for this recap!!! The ONLY complaint I have thus season is that they didn't show enough on the feeds! We got robbed of some amazing events. The feeds have it all this year!❤
I stopped caring about Big Brother 25 and that’s something I don’t want to happen.
Honestly I feel Jag is going to get the Chris Underwood Edge of Extinction treatment of his win. Sure Jag won but the gigantic asterisk is going to be there where he won by a twist
Jag is the worst winner in BB history
Along with Dick, Jordan, and Rachel
Yup. The first half was great. Once the zombie thing happened i tuned out and it never really pulled me back in. Every time i checked out a few feed updates the sentiment was always the same - nothing good is happening. And it stayed that way until the mediocre ending.
I thought it was going to be one of the best seasons ever. Then zombie week happened and killed the momentum dead. It was like season 20 only worse. Between that, the length of the season and the comps allowing for comp beasts to do boring things forever i was done after cory was gone.
Starting at the 15:25 mark Peridiam, you ATE! Well done! 👏🏽
They need to add secret advantages to the game to allow play-makers to actually stand a chance to making it further into the season. I’m tired of seeing so many floaters in every season
im not a person who watches feeds constantly, ill turn them on when i remember to and i have to say witnessing the jared corey fight live from the start was so amazing to be apart of as a bb fan
Another reason the comp times are hidden now is because Jared is not functionally literate. He, for most intents and purposes, cannot read. It became very apparent in two challenges and caused him to time out. The producers don't want to embarrass him (and anger Cirie), adding reasons to hide the times.
I will never respect the way Jag won. For the people claiming Jag is a mastermind when the only reason he made it to the end because he was immune from the final 10 on + got evicted in week 4 is ridiculous. We will look back at his win and sour on it. Had there been no battlebacks, every single week from the jury on would have likely had a powershift and a different HOH. If there's going to be a 100 day season, cast 20 people instead with no battlebacks...
How to fix bb: we need a moose lol. More crap shoot comps. Honestly, they didnt even need all the twists, just only do one double eviction and dont speed up the last week. Season would have been the same as the normal one was because we had 17 houseguests. Worst thing for me is the comps and as a disabled person, I loved that they had a deaf houseguest. But jared not being ejected for the slur and the hearing necessary comp sucked to see. I didnt watch the final episodes of the season for a couple weeks, just the jury segments and kept up with it via rhap and twitter. Also, they need to cast more fans. Like for real, 2 super fans? Thats it. No excuse. Even if they are thinking oh we need pretty people who will get into a showamnce. They had that this season, I mean America is gorgeous and shes a super fan. Loved the first half. Some fun characters and love America and Cory. Had fun with life feeds and podcasts. I was entertained. Not bottom bottom season for me. But definitely towards it.
A great cast with a bad production decisions WHY they let jag win HoH again ?
Also why matt just TROW away her money and her goodbye mensagens to the jury think jag is the pupet Master ?
Also its sad see Cirie lose and i hope i never see bowie Jane again in my front ,victoria is more useful than her .
Also meme just dont make nothing besides she had to make moves and she is also in a good spot in the game is a mess .
Ngl your spelling made it hard for me to read this, but I kinda understood what you was saying.
No sad for Cirie at all. She squandered a massive advantage. Hisam being voted out was so dumb and then the Red vote out. She had Jag right where she wanted him. She made some very horrible moves thar no twist did to her
@@George-jr7vv It's because the advantage was really for Jared. She had to play two games while he threw it all away
Yup- if I wanted to watch the Challenge I’d watch that. Exactly what I said!!! It’s almost like they’re trying to be on that level and failing at it while simultaneously being boring.
Something i have been complaining about for the last few seasons is this "groupthink" that the houseguests get into where nobody wants to oppose those in power and it always leads to unanimous votes. I miss it when you had two opposing alliances voting for separate people to try to undermine one-another and the votes came much closer.
BBUS needs to implement the "no HOH competing for the Veto" rule that Big Brother Canada has.
A season with so much promise at the beginning turned into complete shit it ended up as a bottom five season with a bottom five winner
I think BB26 should be a more personal look at the show with the theme of ummmmm SINK OR SWIM 😩😩 like BB can bring back a temptation but add a blessing and curse vibe to it. Like “Win a second POV at the cost of no eviction vote by said winner”. Or the winner of the POV can upgrade to Diamond at the cost of not playing the HOH since you put your own nominee on the block. There’s also the idea of “Second place wins Co-HOH at the cost of being a nominee for the next two weeks” or become immune to nominations for one week at the cost being a Havenot for a while 😂 like there’s a lot
Imagine if Zombie week was instead all evicted house guests or jury members return into the house for a week and could vote to evict a non zombie house guest, then leave the game at the end of the week. That would of been entertaining as all hell!
I'm actually going out on a limb here by saying CBS... keep doing what you're doing. The same uninspired comps, dumb editing choices, and stupid twists. Maybe when your viewership drops in 5 years and you get cancelled will you have learned your lesson. I WANT CBS to lose the show if they arent going to change because I would rather have another company such as Netflix, ABC, or NBC buy the rights of the show and actually have the balls to change the show for the better.
I felt this season had more to do with the first 2-3 weeks events than ever…I’ve watched since the beginning and I felt this was lacklustre and heavily produced. Jag eviction and being winner is kinda ridiculous
Izzy was problematic in much the same way as Felicia and Matt with her hatred of America and calling her claims about Cameron "gossip"
omg ur so real ive watched every single season of big brother and i am SO tired of how the comps in general, are all copies of each other, this is a BIG tv production and we couldn't get any new comps ???????
also also. love jag, but that extra money comp he got after we won, he definitely threw it. There is NOOOOO way he knew he was getting more money hanging and "fell off" after he already won the comp after like a minute ??
Excellent review! Yeah you really summed up the highs and lows of this season for me. That new comp stat is alarming. For how mixed the season was, I have to put it mid tier, but it was a sharp decline. Love the America’s Vote edit at the end hahaha.
Peridiam being a fan of America oh he has taste
1) They should have kept Kirsten after Luke was kicked out
2) Izzy leaving was great content, but we lost someone on the live feeds who was always active
3) Zombie week was my breaking point. No Hoh room, No Comps, No real game talk, just waiting for a whole week to find out who will comeback. Live Feeds were great until that week. Thats when the negative personal talk started to come up. Im all for trash talk within someones ability in the game but when you make comments constantly about someone personally then its annoying.
4) Who every is editing the episodes needs to find a new job. The storyline and narratives they formed in these episodes were terrible, compared to what was happening on the feeds. If they actually put effort into showing what was going on, we don't get the AFPs we got.
5) Invs HOH is a low effort twist, when the person can just tell their allies without punishment. Especially putting it with the double veto twist and people knowing who the HOH is stupid. We got a blindside because of it but it would be more chaos if the invs HOH was unknown.
6) Jag playing back to back HOHs was game over. Alongside having the double eviction be the same exact veto comps.
how did america not win afp
The season was way too long and would have been a much better season if it was shorter. The season had lots of potential a diverse mostly likeable cast (at the beginning), a fun twist, and a smaller jury combined with some good drama and fights should have been much better than it was. Zombie week killed the momentum combined with being too long turned it into a mid level season.
I love you and your videos; but I just can't handle any more BB25 right now. I will come back next week to actually watch this as I still need a break from it. (I am sure this video is amazing as all your vids are Peridiam, you're commentary is always so spot on).
More fun mental comps less reliance on physical, try a season where the cast skews older, trust the format and realize the best season of the show had the least amount of twists, if you’re gonna have twists make them fast paced ones not ones that just stagnate the game, stop live jury questioning and go back to doing it pretaped, just one of these and I’m happy man
I like seeing the classic comps but wish they’d do more comps of temptations
Honestly I hate the longer seasons day wise, I don’t care about the 100 days, if it was like 60-75 it would allow the game to maintain some decent momentum, the endgame was so slow and predictable but given the last 4 seasons I’d say that’s always how it is
We had 2 weeks with no eviction at all
The best week of this entire season was the Pressure Cooker week as Izzy eviction caused so much chaos in the house! All the twists in each universe ruined the momentum of the season!
Pressure cooker week wasn’t the week that Izzy got evicted… Izzy got evicted during humiliweek a couple weeks later after Cameron was blindsided when Red went home.
Ya Cam won a quiz competition that week iirc. When he won, everyone was super awkward about it and noone but him was celebrating.
Then Jared won the veto and kept noms the same so cirie wouldnt be the replacement.
That wasn’t Pressure cooker week. Jag’s eviction being nullified was pressure cooker week. Cam’s Chaos week was started with mental comp with the farts.
The strategy this season was horrendous, everyone sucked strategically some more then others
Cirie was the only one to give me tastes of actual strategy, that made me feel like I was watching a regular season of big brother. All the other players just horrendous in doing anything in that house.
@@SandraFruitsYou I'd argue that Matt was a good player too
Definitely a mid tier season. It was entertaining. The cast delicered in alot of areas. I thought the Cirie twist was unfair though. My favorite week of the game was Cam winning HOH allowing the Izzy flip to happen. The biggest cons was it was too long. If it was trimmed down to 75 to 82 days it would be top tier. The zombie twist sucked because no game going on. The invisivle HOH needed rules and should not have been able to play twice. The 2 weeks dragged but the finale was kind of a nailbiter and Jag winning was a good winner. Cam winning AFP was a surprise but not to me. He has a massive fanbase on facebook. I think it was better then BB21, BB22, BB23 and BB19. Word to CBS keep BB at a shorter length and move it faster. I much preferred the 7 person jury
This season could have been up there with the best. To be fair, I was rooting against Cirie, Jared, and Izzy because they had so much power for so long, but realizing that Izzy and Jared going caused the season to fall into a pit of boredom, I guess hindsight is 20/20. The twists were also among the worst or most boring ones in the series (except the Demi-Gorgon, that one was actually pretty hilarious), the lack of dissenting eviction votes took away from the suspense, and the steam roll of the second half just made this season a snooze fest. I will still commend Cory and especially America for leading the charge to take out Izzy, because despite the outcome of that on the rest of the season, it was still a fun and exciting move that shook the dynamics of the game.
Overall, I think that Season 25 just let out all of the excitement in the first half, only to slow to a crawl with the Zombie twist and then turn into a repeat of what plagued the jury phase of Season 16. A ranking of #18 out of 24 (either bottom of mid tier or top of low tier) is deserving.
Peridiam you did a great recap and all soo true. My disappointment came at the last three, their treatment of others was a bit nasty.
Even with the twists absolutely ruining the season, it’s crazy to think how much more satisfying it would’ve been if Cirie won the double eviction HOH and sent Jag out. Could’ve ended up with a Cirie/Felicia/America/Matt with no Mafia steamroll and 4 players that I’d have been way happier with winning
While I do think that competitions needs to be more equitable, people are wrong about endgame comps being physical. Cory mentioned it for a moment in his deep dive with Taran that he was actually correct about endgame comps being mental, and Cory was right.
Endgame starts at Final 6, imo. So let's look at the comps from that point onward.
Physical:
-Final 5 POV (going through water and stacking)
-Final 6 POV (DE Veto running and dropping balls into a tube
-Final HOH Part 1 (endurance hanging on ropes)
Mental:
-Final 5 HOH (rolling balls at targets)
-Final 6 HOH (booth quiz about movie posters)
-Final HOH Part 3 (booth quiz about jurors)
-Final 4 HOH (booth quiz about comic pages)
-Final HOH Part 2 (Memory about competition names)
-Final 4 POV (memory about days)
The endgame competitions were majority mental. And if you really want to go out on a limb and say that F4 POV & Final HOH Part 2 were hybrid comps, then fine. I don't personally believe they were nearly physical enough to truly tip the scales in anyone's favor. But sure, there was some minimal quickness involved. But, I mean, if even THAT is too inequitable for you, then the only way it's always equitable is if they're completely stationary for every competition. Which, I'm cool with personally, but let's be realistic. AND EVEN THEN, if you take away those 2 endgame comps because you think there's too much of a physical element and you place them into a hybrid camp, the endgame was still majority mental comps. The real problem with BB25's endgame is that people outside the Mafia choked hard in competitions. It's unfortunate, but it's true. The endgame competitions were not dominated by physicality. At least not in this specific season.
Some ideas:
Have the HOH or POV winner draw to see which Veto they won. Have the majority for the season be Golden, but have some silver & diamond in there.
If a player wins something in secret, they need to keep it secret.
I was hoping, with the laser, we would see comps from different eras - food comps, to earn the groceries for the week, win a car by all HGs starting inside it, etc. I would still love to see an Eras season. Outgoing HOH spins wheel to see which era the next week will be.
Have BB Legends live in the house for a week or so, particularly ones that will stir the pot. Prior to moving in, they can stay in hotel, doing their normal lives (but no BB spoilers, other than episodes or summaries that involve all HGs).
Have a week or two of an immediate eviction (a la BBCAN). HOH goes immediately upstairs, nominates 2 people & then, a vote. Helluva way to mix up a Double Eviction week.
So many simple ways BBUS can spice/mix things up.
I hated this season so much. An unending parade of stupidity and toxicity and annoyance that was incredibly dragged-out and full of unfair competitions. I stopped watching after Cameron's creepy ass won HOH for the 3rd time.
your critiques are absolutely bang on. well said. this season was top 5 before jag got evicted/not evicted, and sits at bottom now after how it played out. 19, 22, 16, 21, and 25 are the bottom of the barrel
I'd love to see BB production put more effort into designing how comp sets function rather than elaborate background design, because they are very unfair. Survivor does this really well.
For example, with the wall: instead of having 2-3 handles that are at bad heights for many people, just assign players positions on the wall and put the handles at the same spot relative to their height. Similar to how Survivor has long had competitions where you hold a weight that is based pn a % of each person's body weight.
We need more mental comps that are purely mental (no running around to get pieces or look for clues). Besides the "heres a video/ image" quizes they have done, they need to bring back more quiz comps about random things like about random items in the house or even the stay or fold game.
Also, more crapshoot competitions! I LOVE the chaos a crapshoot can bring.
I am very glad the last 2 seasons have stopped having extra "twist" competitions, but i do miss the have/have no & luxary competitions. Especially the format from the early seasons where sometimes it was individual, sometimes team, and sometimes as a house. I hate how while there are still have nots each season we hardly ever hear in episodes who they even are. If theyre jusy going to be randomly picked there should be a formal ceremony for it because why have them if its not even mentioned?
Also, I'm tired of having so many individual timed competitions. They aren't good for viewing/TV. The editors just repeat the same thing over and over for each person and its SO boring. Just have the comp be all at once because if i have to listen to MULTIPLE people repeat the difference between two images again i feel like i may gi insane.
Overall, the best comps to watch are the ones where the audience can play along because its more engaging. So quizzes, guessing the number of items, and strategy comps are more interesting for TV.
BB25 is the only season I stopped watching toward the end (after the second double). The Mafia was a bad combination of winning everything, not interested in playing self interested, and being bad television. Bowie Jane is one of the all-time biggest casting fails
yeah I came back after a long time not watching. The beginning half of the season hooked me but then the show and the edits got so mind-numbingly boring I had to stop watching/mainly skimming episodes (right after Jag literally kicks out Blue... his ally... so he could continue to steamroll comps.) Ofc he wins it was handed to him. I know the game is full of twists but it was really frustrating when the dude was voted out unanimously and gets brought back. Bowie Jane was one of the most annoying characters I've seen. I'm done watching.
Cirie made the dumbest moves she voted out Red over Jag to protect Jared. The Red vote our was the single handed move that killed Cirie and her squad.
@@George-jr7vvI think Cirie made more missteps than that, and really should’ve been able to rebound without Red. Keeping Bowie out of the alliance and their decisions is such an underrated terrible move as she would’ve been loyal if Cirie didn’t want to blindside her
Kirsten was a somewhat relatable hot mess who was gone too soon...Especially because she should have stayed an extra week after Luke left.
Jared also tanked Cirie's game in a kayak, which is unforgivable.
Cirie never put her game at risk to save her alliance when multiple situations called for that. She finished mid jury with no allies. She was not by any stretch of the imagination "running circles" around the rest of the cast. Completely ineffective. Zero impact player.
Jared got away with it because they already had been forced to make up a week with Like, and if he was gone Cirie would have almost surely left in solidarity and they would both be out their big draw who was bringing fans in, and be down 2 evictions in an already long and drawn out season. So that couldn't happen so Jared got away with it. Not defending the decision, it was a double standard, it was unfair and it was BS... but it wasn't even remotely surprising they didn't do something so potentially detrimental to the show and the bottom line that he got away with it anyway.
Actually, I think that the season was originally supposed to have been a more story based season, and the twists would’ve been to introduce a multiverse version of a previous houseguest. But they had to change everything at the last minute due to the strikes pushing the show back.
Not sure if you edit your own videos but if you do - I appreciated some of the editing tricks during the repeating competition rant because it really made it clear how some comps are just so identical
I have a good feeling that if BB doesn’t change the formula people are gradually start to get bored and stop watching it and this show might be over. I hope not but you flat out said that you yourself got bored of the season and stopped watching it and you’re a survivor and BB channel so that says something. This show needs a revamp bad.
I think it was a pretty good cast but the twist making it easy for Cirie to divide the house into multiple sub-alliances and then zombie week just kind of ruined it for me. Plus the comps being very, very physical and Bowie Jane being the worst kind of goat also put a damper on the jury phase.
Mid-tier season. Not the worst, but I feel like it’ll be fairly forgettable in the long run.
Cirie and her alliance turning on Hisam was truly an awful move
I genuinely believe that with a couple of adjustments this could have been the most interesting season of big brother in years. I just need to get the footage I need and I should be able to post theses changes I would make.
I don’t personally have a problem with Jag being the winner. I have a problem with him acting like an entitled jerk that he excused because of who he is. It really reminded me of Maggie from BB6 in the worst posible way.
the most iconic thing to come out of "The Mafia" will always be " How did your game change--- I'm going to say-- for the better---when you joined the MAFIA with Matt and I!!!!"
Izzy on the feeds is what made me hate izzy so...
Noooo not the Cameron and red brokeback mountain reference😂