Yeah from what I remember, He was only interested in All Stars if Kaycee and Josh were there. But when they got COVID, he was checked out. On top of his issues with Angela. It's gotta be difficult and I don't blame him. I literally couldn't even watch the season once Jaysar was evicted and I saw the shell of the player Danielle was. I'm just pissed that season ever happened because I don't think we'll get some of those people to play again for an ACTUAL All Stars instead of this "All Stars" with people like David in it.
Honestly I think Jordan mostly avoided looking bad, but she was definitely more likable on 11, while Jeff’s ego was grossly huge in 13 and his racist and homophobic comments on the feeds did not help matters!
@@JRJuggernaut1 Jordan was definitely nowhere near as bad as Jeff was, but she treated the newbies with about the same amount of respect. She was in no place to look down at any of them when she was piggybacking Jeff and Rachel the whole time, and failing to win any comps after Week 2.
I was pretty high on Jeff in his original season until he made that insanely dumb decision to go after Russell, who was my favorite and rooting interest at the time. But even then the worst I could say about him was he was dumb. Then BB13 happened and I absolutely loathed him. He was arguably the most entitled player we have ever seen. His attitude was that everyone had to hand the season over to him or else. His eviction remains the best double eviction in BBUS history.
The thing with Boogie is....he was only on Allstars because Will wouldn't join the cast without him. Will basically won that season for him. I remember they couldn't even nominate Boogie because of Will that week Jase left which was very sus. All of Boogie's moves in Allstars were made by Will. There's a reason Boogie's 2 appearances without Will were pitiful. He devolves into threats and insults whenever he doesn't get his way and the way Ian blindsided him was beautiful especially since that is the last time he will ever be on Big Brother 👍
BB22 was such a miserable watch, Cody and Nicole F have to be some of the least likeable players to ever return and I couldn't stand their rude ass alliance and how they talked down to everyone else. Just pathetic.
As someone who will defend Nicole F on her first two seasons watching her on BB22 was frustrating……. Granted, I do not think she is up there in terms of being unlikable, in fact I think her performance on BB18 is admirable on a lot of levels, but I saw none of that talent on BB22. I didn’t see any real fire from her, any strategic gameplay, and her fake tears on voting Ian out irked me so much 🤦🏻♂️ I think Nicole’s run on that season was more disappointing than insufferable or unlikable personally 🤷🏼♂️
I have to agree with you! I enjoyed Nicole prior to season 22. She really was hard to watch and the obnoxious jealousy and drama with Janelle was too much.@@JRJuggernaut1
The first time he lasted far longer than he would have due to a crazy string of HOH/Veto comp performances and getting lucky with who he was up against; he was either a nominee or HOH every single week and the one week he was set to go they cancelled the eviction. Things were more even the second time and he didn't last too long.
@@haziagat I heard their stipend check was a ridiculously high amount, so she got all that money for like 1 week of work (or a month if you include sequester).
I also really like the scene of him giving George the slop pass so he could eat pizza with the rest of the house. Idk why I found that scene so endearing but it made me love him & George
I'm kinda of surprised that anyone is surprised by how poorly Boogie did in BB14. Anyone who watched the live feeds for BB7 saw him constantly start fires where he didn't need to due to his arrogance and hot temper. Most of Will's game was putting those fires out and carrying Boogie on his back across the finish line. It's no shock at all that both times Boogie played without Will doing the heavy lifting on his behalf he was an early boot. Heck, both All-Stars seasons were basically won for the winner by their better half.
Agreed. BB7 was my first season and of the duo it was Will who greatly impressed me, not so much Boogie. Then I went back and watched BB2 and it was all the more apparent who the mastermind of Chilltown was and who was responsible for their success. Boogie won All Stars because Will did most of the hard work and Boogie won the final HOH. As simple as that.
@@quiddity131 I think Boogie did have a good social game in BB7, especially early on when Will didn't seem to be into it, but that was also a very murky season with claims of pre-show deals and Boogie owning a popular bar being a draw to a lot of houseguests who had little money or job prospects. He was lucky to win and never should have come back. Him returning to BB14 having that weird one-sided vendetta against Janelle said it all.
@@kengeorgejones6855 He still wanted to go to Final 2 with Will and lose 7-0 (which he does, literally the only one who even might vote him in that Final 2 is Erika). And would have without the fluke of the Final 4 round. In a Will, Janelle, Boogie Final 3 both take Will, and he easily beats both.
Danielle's (Donato) story is very interesting. First she went from disliked in BB8 (for the record, I actually liked her) to being liked and rooted for in BB13 and then back to being disliked in BB22.
I'm with ya, I've always enjoyed her, even if AS was a disappointin' run that's a long time for her to have grown and changed.. she's always been a prickly bitch, though, LOL, shocker!! I'd still like to see her back for another shot if it'd be a good returnee twist, tbh, I love me a sassy lady. 😹😹
Yeah, I feel the same way. One of my most disliked players ever the first time, a great underdog hero the second time and right back to being a heel the third time. I guess we only get the good out of Dani when she's a brunette.
Nicole A for how early she went out. Dani for her heel turn from 13 to 22 and her ableism. Tyler for being checked out and not wanting to be there. Boogie for his terrible gameplay as a player. Marcellus for doing…nothing. Also Jeff for being even more of a bigot child on 13, Frank for blowing it hard only 3 weeks in, Paul for using bullying as a strategy, and Christmas for returning to play Big Brother.
My Top 5 Disappointments: 1. Nicole F (BB22): she was passive aggressive towards Janelle for no reason. She joined a group of HGs laughing at Ian’s autism. She practiced her “fake cry” eviction speech the night Ian left. She contributed nothing to her alliance until she won HOH at Final 5 when it was just them left. She acted like she was entitled to win Big Brother twice. In short, she ruined her image and reputation on this season. 2. David (BB22): I don’t need to say why - just watch his gameplay. It was a shame because he seemed to read the room correctly back on BB21 and then became a complete idiot on BB22. 3. Janelle (BB14): once the coaches could play the game, she was unwilling to work with Boogie and Dan to sacrifice one of her players (Wil, Joe, and Ashley). She just wasn’t the same player she was on BB6 or BB7. 4. Frank (BB18): he inappropriately slapped Da’Vonne on the butt. He helped Bridgette evict her ally Brontë by putting her on the block as a pawn (she got evicted over Tiffany by one vote that night). 5. Diane (BB7): she was there and did nothing but act like wallpaper the entire time. Her “Mr. and Mrs. Smith” alliance with Jase went nowhere.
It’s hard to fault David too much bc let’s be real putting a FIRST BOOT in an all star season was a failure of a concept BB really put the minnow in a shark tank and thought it’d somehow work out
Nicole wasn't a disappointment to me the third time because I never had high expectations from her the first 2 times. She simply went ahead with her same exact strategy the third time yet she didn't have a fool making the wrong F3 decision that time. She was never that likable to me, so her not being a good person was no surprise. David was a dud on BB22, but what can one expect from a player who didn't deserve to be there? As much as he was screwed over for BB21, you save David's return for a Second Chances season, not an All Stars season.
To be fair here, it really was hard for Janelle to want to work with Boogie after he made it pretty clear that he still held some kind of vendetta against her for whatever happened in All Stars
TBF, Janelle was NEVER a good strategist. She never made a true smart move to better her position on both season 6 or 7. She was just insanely great at winning comps to save her ass and postpone her elimination. Still one of the most iconic and entertaining houseguest ever though.
All the BB5 players in All-Stars had bad outcomes. Nakomis was immediately targeted and couldn't do anything to stop it, Jase played a lot smarter and yet was screwed over by everyone for "being a threat" over Dr. Will, and Diane just didn't have the fire she had in BB5 to play hard and pretty much gave up. On top of that, all of them went out back-to-back-to-back. It's a shame cause BB5 is such an underrated season with great players, and the returnees were pretty much the best characters from the season.
I feel like you need to make a part 2 to this list because I feel like we only scratched the surface on this topic. Or, do the opposite of the 5 players that exceeded expectations on the return
The “bigger cause” debacle from Tyler was so embarrassing. You can’t call someone one of the best to play when they basically give up and make such a stupid mistake in the social game like that.
@@KlaviceGavin Rooting for him so hard at the time its crazy that he took his foot off the pedal near the end like he did. He gets Kaycee out and goes with Angela to the end, he wins unanimously and is arguably considered the best one time player ever; instead he loses to Kaycee and has a disappointing run the second time.
@@quiddity131 That's why I don't consider him robbed in 20 like most people do, because robbed would imply you were screwed by a twist or something mostly out of your control, while Tyler's loss had a lot to do with things that he could've controlled, but failed to...the fight with Bayleigh when he knew blowing up at her would cost him a jury vote, completely mishandling Sam right at the end instead of realizing that it's not the smartest idea to play a cutthroat game with someone who is an emotional person, and throwing final 4 POV to Kaycee was the nail in the coffin, because when Angela was the one he had the best chance of beating at the end, he probably shouldn't have let her go and instead played to win it and take out the far more likable Kaycee, who had already established bonds with the non L6 side of the house early on
I feel like Enzo, despite making it to the end again, played relatively the same and had the same flaws that he had on his original season. He kept playing for second place and not making big moves to boost his own resume and it failed him again.
Enzo's one where the disappointment isn't super high the second time because I doubt a lot of people had high expectations for him for a second time. Frankly he overperformed what I and many other expected in BB22.
@@Kassiopeia1326 I wouldn't say 18 was bad jury management, because they had a winnable scenario if they'd cut Nicole loose right at the end and sat next to James, since the only votes I see James picking up in a Paul/James F2 are Natalie, Michelle, and depending on how bitter she would feel, possibly Nicole, with everyone else going Paul
#1 for me would be Ian on BB22. He didn't really try to make any moves to better himself and just relied on Franzel to get him far. He has no one to blame but himself when he went home.
Nicole Anthony had one of the biggest fall from graces i’ve seen, all she had to do was take Kemi’s side after the show and instead took Jack and Jackson’s side after seeing how hated they were, talk about a hit and miss.
She didn't take sides, but she tried to be "neutral" about the situation which was still enough for Kemi to be over her. Sometimes the "Love!!! Positivity!!! Everybody Get Along!!!" shtick just doesn't work.
@@gexghetto Dang...I honestly can't blame Nicole too much for that, because I'm the same way when two people I'm close to start fighting....I straight up am like "You two figure it out on your terms, and leave me out of whatever drama you have going on"
I kind of figured Tyler was going to struggle with Angela separation. If you followed BB20 live feeds closely, you'd have seen how emotionally attached he got to her. She was a considerable influence both game wise and personally. When she got evicted final four, he struggled through the last week of the game... got all depressed, cuddled up with her pillow most of the day, and quietly wallowed in misery. As such, I figured he'd burn out dealing with months of Angela separation. Was correct.
@KlaviceGavin Met them in person at a meet and greet once. Was in the core of an "influential" Tangela group that got acknowledged a few times. They were very inseparable. Constant close physical proximity and mutual attention. My own wild guess is that Angela eventually found that a bit too much to deal with 24/7 once the post-BB honeymoon wore off. Apparently things improved for them for a bit after her Challenge run, then fell off again. Her time alone was probably a reprieve. I also think she handled her solo outing (Challenge USA 1) vastly better than he did his (BB22). Challenge Angela was basically BB20 Angela... only the edit actually noticed her properly, lol.
I thought Dani was actually one of the bright spots on BB22. At the end of the day she does get outmaneuvered but definitely gets screwed over by the triple eviction where we don’t get to see her blow up everyone’s games.
After recently watching every season in a row for the first time, Diane on BB7 bummed me out SO HARD. It’s clear she was just not in a good spot in her life, and I think it really affected her game. Not to mention the pre-season drama. She kicked ass and was a favorite on BB5 for me.
Love the list - what about Diane from BB7? I just rewatched the season and she was a shell of her former self. No gameplay, no fighting spirit. Her return was worse than Marcellus imo.
I felt the same way about Diane (wrote a comment of my own in more detail). A lot of that was down to her alliance being outed pre-season, but you could tell her heart wasn't in it.
Nicole Anthony was also just not in a good place mentally her second go-around. I think she didn't have enough time to heal from the trauma inflicted on her the season before which was why she was so distrustful
Good list but im surprised you didnt have include Ian. I was so surprised and excited to see him on all stars 2 as i didn't think he would ever come back and play. I guess i was right because he made no impact. He played it safe and as a result had no agency and was easily evicted. Such a disappointment and i doubt we ever get to see him play again.
i'm so happy you mentioned Dani bc i completely agree, i'm still a Dani stan but really did not like watching her on BB22 and i'm happy she's moving on to bigger and better things. but BB13 Dani? iconic
Here’s another one: Cassandra on BBCan5. I was so hyped to see her. And she really disappointed me. Loved her on her first season, but she didn’t have a Tim, and that sunk her, especially against the Neda train that was that season’s prejury.
Everyone had just seen her dominate so obviously she had no chance considering that she sucks at comps. For such an early evictee I think her manipulating Demetres into fighting with Dillon and then having that relationship with him which saved her from being backdoored in Week 2 was pretty impressive. Jealous or not Neda was out to get her and she was screwed because Neda had Ika and S3 on her side
I'm so happy youre actually giving Tyler the full story of what happened. People really forget just how amazing Tyler played the start of that season and I think the Cody/Tyler war would've been amazing where, IMO, Tyler wins. Sadly he conked out
The worst part is that he has only made it harder to defend him after what happened with Bayleigh and Davonne that season. I don’t think Tyler is necessarily a bad guy but his mishandling of that whole situation combined with entering a showmance with someone who dated a literal racist is not a good look!
See... They call what Tyler did "WMB" or white man's burden. When a Caucasian person tries to be noble for a cause but just ends up looking like a major bigot. The fact he threw a hissy fit when he wouldn't get his jury stipend, just shows how scummy Tyler truly is.
@@KlaviceGavin that’s a valid interpretation of what happened, especially considering I think his main intention behind quitting was being with Angela and not helping Bayleigh and Davonne. He can claim that he genuinely wanted to help them like he said in the jury house, but his behavior since then has not been reassuring of that claim, even if I recognize he was focusing on himself after BB22 and his eventual breakup with Angela!
I will have to go with Diane and Nakomis from All Stars. Nakomis, Diane and Jase were all hurt pre-season because some alliance they were going to try was ratted out, but it was still disappointing just how little game or idea Nakomis and Diane had when they returned. Nakomis voted against the house because no one bothered to tell her otherwise, then got wrapped up in a lot of pointless hatred for Janelle. By the time she started to improve her position, it was too late. I was a fan of hers and it was just extremely hard to watch her return. Diane was even worse, as she lasted almost a month longer, but had nothing to show for it, again beyond bashing Janelle. I think she would often just say she needed to make jury as she was living in her car. It was sad. I wasn't surprised by Marcellas because he had a very generous edit in BB3 - he was often miserable on the feeds. (he also turned against Janelle several weeks before she nominated him - I still remember how steamed he and Erika were the night BB had a redo of a comp Erika won [Janelle won the redo]) I avoided BB22 because I never wanted another All-Stars season. The first was often a mess and they were lucky it turned out as well as it did. I'm very glad I did. The only positive I have heard from the season (unless you're a Cody fan) is Kaysar and Janelle rekindled their friendship.
Mike Malin was personally disappointing. I rooted for the guy in his original season, BB2, but found out years later that he was saying some racist stuff.
DAVID! Bc that man came in knowing nothing about the show, was evicted first from his season, and brought back a year later AND ADMITTED HE STILL HADN'T WATCHED A SEASON OF BIG BROTHER and therefore was still new.
Nicole was a massive disappointment for most in BB22, although as one who was very critical of her and Cliff's late game decisions in BB21, decisions that cost them the game, I was nowhere as hyped about her as most other people were about her. Totally on board with her being America's Favorite Player for BB21, but she was never an amazing player and her flaming out right away was no surprise. Dani was one of my most hated players ever the first time. A terrible player, but also came off as so extremely unlikable. She lost in the F2 to one of the most hated players of all time, it was that bad. The second time she was way more likable and a good underdog along with Porsche and Kalia, but she was still a terrible player, throwing away a golden position after essentially having Neda-esque safety for the prejury part of the game. The third time? I don't know if I remember a single thing about her gameplay. I recall people being psyched for her to get blindsided only for her to go in the triple meaning it was all over in mere minutes. Tyler I was a huge fan of in BB20, he was my winner pick from the preseason and came within 1 jury vote of pulling it off. He is the #1 reason why BB20 was such an amazing season. Its unfortunate that the same level of drive wasn't there in BB22. I think the overall point is that the less we think about BB22, the better. Mike Boogie I can't say disappointed me much in BB14 because I didn't have high expectations of him anyway. He was never that great. Will was the main reason he was so successful in All Stars and he clearly didn't want to play the game, just coach. Finally, Marcellas. I actually watched BB7 as my first BB season, so I didn't know much of his history at the time beyond the infamous not using the veto moment which is what he was known for. I disliked him considerably throughout that season and was glad when he left. He was a big part of the entertainment in BB3 when I eventually went back and watched it, but didn't bring much to BB7.
Tommy Bracco should have returned for All Stars instead. He is a total sweetheart, one of the nicest people you will ever meet (I have even meet him in real life a couple times and he is so genuine and kind), extremely handsome, a really strong BB player too with lots of potential to be even better, IMO he at worst a close 2nd best player of BB21 behind Jackson and would have beaten everyone that season in a jury vote including Jackson, and was best positioned to make the end of everyone too until Jackson/Holly's insane comp run. I am only dissapointed he isn't slightly better TV as he is a performer in real life and he doesn't seem boring, but not the most interesting character on TV the way he seems to be in a real life, which is strange, but he is still the one I would have liked to return.
Why did people like Daniele in BB13? The only thing I remember her doing is defecting from the veterans to the useless newbies for no reason, which led to her promptly being evicted. She was a clown.
She honestly wasn't good on any of her seasons. Worst finalist ever on BB9 IMO. Had such awful jury management, lost to her dad who everyone hated, and is nowhere near making the end without Americas Player (her Dad isn't either but not rating him here) and her huge comp run.
I still carry the anti-Tyler sentiment. Bro, you had an opportunity to go against and challenge Cody, but you threw in the towel midway in the game. I don't ever want to see you on a reality show ever again, including The Challenge.
Unpopular opinion: BB22 Daniele was my favorite version of Daniele. Yeah, I hated the people she aligned with that season, but I just enjoyed how bad-ass her gameplay was. I feel like the triple eviction robbed her of the story arc she deserved as the true villainess of the season. The entire season was building to her downfall and they yada yada'd it. So... frustrating BB13 Daniele is the most popular version of her, but her gameplay sucked that year. She actually was a terrible ally to Brendon/Rachel who were going to be loyal to her. Expecting Brenchel to backdoor JeJo was seriously so ridiculous, and the fact that she spent the rest of the game spiteful and butt hurt that they didn't was so weird. Obviously, we rooted for her because the Brenchel/JeJo alliance really needed to be knocked down a peg, but really Jeff was the jerk there and I'm glad Rachel won. BB8 Daniele I don't wanna hold against her too much because she was sooo young, but she was such a spoiled brat. Everything the house accused Jen of that year, Daniele actually was. Daniele really messed up backdooring Jen instead of working with her. She could've won bringing Jen to F2 and Jen would've been loyal to her, plus Jen was a comp beast. Once Jen was out, Daniele was playing for second.
Tyler was my absolute favourite in BB20 from week 1 and then All Stars was just such a huge disappointment to me. I blame Angela lol. All he did was talk about how much he missed her while he was there.
I’m surprised David wasn’t on here. He seemed like an entirely different player when comparing his camp bb next level perception to his bb22 obliviousness and terrible lies throughout pretty much the entirety of his screen time. It makes me regret thinking he would’ve been qualified to be an all-star.
yeah I think he needed to try and play like the actual legends in the house but it was horrible because those people were never buying his lies. If he had returned against newbies or other early boots his gameplay may have been more affective.
BB22 was the worst. It seems like it was all a setup for Cody to win. No one who was outside of his pre-built alliance stood a chance, and no one in his alliance would seriously challenge him and instead hand him the w.
C'mon Peridiam, you can't have three out of five players from the same season. Also, even though I personally hate Boogie, I'd give him a pass in S14 because he never even wanted to play.
David for me was the biggest disappointment because I always felt terrible for the Day 1 boots in BB history and when someone finally gets a chance, he was such a non factor. Granted the whole "did you vote to save me" segment was one of the few highlights of BB22, but it was more indicative on how poor David's performance was than anything else. Nicole A was definitely tragic. I do hope the experience in BB22 didn't effect her too much :(
I undertand nicole (21) return because she is a fan favorite but,see her win her first HoH in the duble eviction of 21 and she decide to not target jackson and Holly made me think... WHY the producers bring her back after she made one the worst moves ever ,when people like Britney,danielle reyes,vanessa and rachel cold taken her place . She cold be a 2nd chanche favorite but not a ALL STAR .
Had Tyler not damaged his game, I do think it was his season to take. I really felt he was the front runner up until that point and even made a hard fight to make it as far as he did when he came to his senses.
The funniest part about Tyler checking out of bb22 is that he still played one of the best games, and Could’ve won had he secured Enzo’s loyalty in the week he tried to quit
I disagree with Boogie and Marcellas. Boogie b/c he lived up to his gameplay, he was never that good lol come on. And Marcellas, I just rewatched All Stars and he was fine, he had fun segments with Howie and insulting big brother 6. I think if he won HoH he could’ve been better, but a disappointment? Noooooooo that’s a really poor take. I’d say Diane and Paul were bigger disappointments (she was such a downer and a grouch, while Paul just made the season one of the worst if not for BB22
@@sunshinehwy yes this is true too! I enjoyed the Boogie vs Janelle plus the Boogie vs Dan. I wish Janelle would’ve won the war, but I mean it was still entertaining overall.
To me Boogie palyed about as well as I expected him to without Will carrying him. He was a poor player his first season, rode Will's genius and his fake relationship with Erika to the all-stars win, and then returned to sub-standard play on S14
Dick in 13 got removed since he had contracted HIV IIRC…not really fitting for this kind of list, since it wasn’t anything he did in the game to be considered disappointing. Frank and Ian though, agreed, especially Frank
Also very surprised you didn't do another bbcan switch up at the end and say Neda was a big disappointment. Not only was she not as strong a game player than her bbcan2 game, but she was very catty and very hypocritical and just not good.
i think diane on all stars was rlly disappointing. she could’ve won bb5 if she hadn’t got drunk and i like her personality. she got no screen time on bb7
Jase's placement on All-Stars bummed me out he was still a wild character but this time was ready to play, he was still a villain but was smart. that damn backdoor 🥲 the pre-jury placements in general was rough
I would say brendan in bb13 if only for the fact that he really struggled with making a dent gameplay wise he was just a shield for Rachel but unlike in bb12 where he made some connections outside of Rachel
Most of returning players in BBCAN5 did horribly except one. Ika became the biggest star of the history of the show after her reign in season 5, but most of the returning ruined their legacy.
I think the incredibly unhealthy, codependent relationship Tyler had with Angela was a huge detriment to his game. That combined with the fact that both of them had just gone vegan (a diet that definitely takes longer than a few months to get 100% right, to keep your energy and focus up) a few months earlier. I don't think he was mentally or physically able to play a good game in BB22. He's doing great on the Challenge, and he looks much healthier than he did on All Stars. And then him being in the majority alliance while trying to be friends with David (the king of self-sabotage) and Arbor Day (one of the worst players from both of her seasons, imo) when he was used to playing with people like Kaycee who understood the game and fought to be there, I think just wore him down. He could have been someone to root for, and I think if there's ever an All Stars 3, and he gets invited back, he could actually win.
for sure. I think now that he's no longer with Angela and returned to reality tv with the Challenge, he's a lot more likely to return on the next returnee season an actually feel motivated to be there
You should take out Boogie from BB14 and put Frank from BB18 instead. Boogie as a player atleast orchestrated the Janelle backdoor and still brought some entertainment. Frank in BB18 was not only unlikable but his gameplay was also pretty terrible, id argue that Franks BB18 game is the 1 of the most actively bad game from a returning player
His misogyny was also so awful on 18 that he sexually assaulted Davonne. Watching him there made me realize he was never that good in 14 either, that’s pretty bad to make me think less of you on your previous run!
I don't think your tweet was that bad but kind of badly written with some passive aggressive digs. Your content, writing and other manners are a TON better in 2023, you have grown as a person a lot. Nicole read the lines "ALL the messiness and bad reads...", "glad she'll be leaving", "now lets win an HoH" as being happy she left the show and rooting for other players. So to her you came off as a personal enemy. That is my take on why she blocked you. Sorry that happened I know you are a big supporter!
I can't really agree on Marcellas that high, or even top 5 all time dissapointment. I can agree he was a dissapointment since yes he wasn't the character, personality, or story of Big Brother 3, but the key thing is he was NEVER a good player even on Big Brother 3, so in that sense he wasn't that dissapointing, as from a game play perspective he did about as well as would be expected in an All Star cast, and that is still the most important thing. That is different from Danielle, Tyler, Nicole A, Boogie, and some others who were all a big dissapointment from a game play perspective, and otherwise, in their returns. Granted Nicole A arguably was never that good a player on BB21 despite her high placement, but her game play was pretty terrible on BB22, while Marcellas wasn't playing that badly, just mediocre on All Stars, and essentialy was a bad player who got far on BB3, so really no decrease there. Heck he might have even played a marginally better game on All Stars than BB3, where he atleast didn't do a single thing nearly as dumb as not using the veto on himself as the clear target.
Nicole Franzel was very different in bb22. Played a much worse game, and also was more irritating. She was good in bb18. I don't know why you saidnshe was the same as usual.
David. I still stand by him not bein' a terrible choice, gotta have a chicken George, but, damn, about all but about three or four others needed a third option.
THE THUMBNAIL?? 😂
LOL!
It’s pretty solid
I also feel like that Kaycee not being on BB22 made Tyler mentally check out of the game.
He was having problems with Angela and was having problems being away from her. So that was a big part of it.
@@youtubeSuckssNowyup, Kaycee being there would have delayed it but he still would have checked out regardless!
He looked so happy when he got evicted 😂
Well, that's weak.
Yeah from what I remember, He was only interested in All Stars if Kaycee and Josh were there. But when they got COVID, he was checked out. On top of his issues with Angela. It's gotta be difficult and I don't blame him. I literally couldn't even watch the season once Jaysar was evicted and I saw the shell of the player Danielle was. I'm just pissed that season ever happened because I don't think we'll get some of those people to play again for an ACTUAL All Stars instead of this "All Stars" with people like David in it.
Jeff and Jordan in BB13 both deserve a mention honestly. The fact that they made Brendon and Rachel look likeable was astonishing.
Honestly I think Jordan mostly avoided looking bad, but she was definitely more likable on 11, while Jeff’s ego was grossly huge in 13 and his racist and homophobic comments on the feeds did not help matters!
@@JRJuggernaut1
Jordan was definitely nowhere near as bad as Jeff was, but she treated the newbies with about the same amount of respect. She was in no place to look down at any of them when she was piggybacking Jeff and Rachel the whole time, and failing to win any comps after Week 2.
@@midnalazuli793 yeah that’s fair, I personally never saw her looking down on them the way the others did but she definitely enabled them 😔
I was pretty high on Jeff in his original season until he made that insanely dumb decision to go after Russell, who was my favorite and rooting interest at the time. But even then the worst I could say about him was he was dumb. Then BB13 happened and I absolutely loathed him. He was arguably the most entitled player we have ever seen. His attitude was that everyone had to hand the season over to him or else. His eviction remains the best double eviction in BBUS history.
Jeff in particular. Such an entitled child, and his homophobic rant...
The thing with Boogie is....he was only on Allstars because Will wouldn't join the cast without him. Will basically won that season for him. I remember they couldn't even nominate Boogie because of Will that week Jase left which was very sus. All of Boogie's moves in Allstars were made by Will. There's a reason Boogie's 2 appearances without Will were pitiful. He devolves into threats and insults whenever he doesn't get his way and the way Ian blindsided him was beautiful especially since that is the last time he will ever be on Big Brother 👍
Totally blanking lol. What was his second appearance without will?
@@kyliegymnastics They may have been just thinking of Big Brother 2 even though Will was there lmao
Also when Ian told him "get to stepping" which is exactly what Boogie said to Howie on Season 7. Nice to see Howie being avenged unexpectedly lol 😂
BB22 was such a miserable watch, Cody and Nicole F have to be some of the least likeable players to ever return and I couldn't stand their rude ass alliance and how they talked down to everyone else. Just pathetic.
As someone who will defend Nicole F on her first two seasons watching her on BB22 was frustrating…….
Granted, I do not think she is up there in terms of being unlikable, in fact I think her performance on BB18 is admirable on a lot of levels, but I saw none of that talent on BB22. I didn’t see any real fire from her, any strategic gameplay, and her fake tears on voting Ian out irked me so much 🤦🏻♂️
I think Nicole’s run on that season was more disappointing than insufferable or unlikable personally 🤷🏼♂️
I have to agree with you! I enjoyed Nicole prior to season 22. She really was hard to watch and the obnoxious jealousy and drama with Janelle was too much.@@JRJuggernaut1
I would include Frank. Loved him in his first season, but he was just kind of a creep in his second season 😬
he was always an angry, butthurt loser but it took him having to SA somebody and not winning comps for people to realize the BS.
@@gexghetto yeah he was never that great in 14 but 18 really highlighted how much he should never have been brought back!
The first time he lasted far longer than he would have due to a crazy string of HOH/Veto comp performances and getting lucky with who he was up against; he was either a nominee or HOH every single week and the one week he was set to go they cancelled the eviction. Things were more even the second time and he didn't last too long.
Keisha was the real winner of BB22.
Anyone who has the sense to bolt out of that season asap is automatically a winner in my eyes ☺️
@@haziagat I heard their stipend check was a ridiculously high amount, so she got all that money for like 1 week of work (or a month if you include sequester).
Marcellus fighting with Howie in the jury house was the most memorable thing about him from all stars I can think of 💀
Yes that was good and sadly his only memorable moment for All Stars!
he should have push kicked howie in the water
His fight with Jase before the Veto was a memorable moment from All Stars too.
@@AV-jh2ss that one was amazing
I also really like the scene of him giving George the slop pass so he could eat pizza with the rest of the house. Idk why I found that scene so endearing but it made me love him & George
Legend has it that David is still trying to figure out who used the disruptor power on him.
David!! DID YOU PULL YOURSELF OFF OF THE BLOCK OF FIRE!??
- literally, everyone 😂😂
I'm kinda of surprised that anyone is surprised by how poorly Boogie did in BB14. Anyone who watched the live feeds for BB7 saw him constantly start fires where he didn't need to due to his arrogance and hot temper. Most of Will's game was putting those fires out and carrying Boogie on his back across the finish line. It's no shock at all that both times Boogie played without Will doing the heavy lifting on his behalf he was an early boot. Heck, both All-Stars seasons were basically won for the winner by their better half.
Agreed. BB7 was my first season and of the duo it was Will who greatly impressed me, not so much Boogie. Then I went back and watched BB2 and it was all the more apparent who the mastermind of Chilltown was and who was responsible for their success. Boogie won All Stars because Will did most of the hard work and Boogie won the final HOH. As simple as that.
@@quiddity131 I think Boogie did have a good social game in BB7, especially early on when Will didn't seem to be into it, but that was also a very murky season with claims of pre-show deals and Boogie owning a popular bar being a draw to a lot of houseguests who had little money or job prospects. He was lucky to win and never should have come back. Him returning to BB14 having that weird one-sided vendetta against Janelle said it all.
@@kengeorgejones6855 He still wanted to go to Final 2 with Will and lose 7-0 (which he does, literally the only one who even might vote him in that Final 2 is Erika). And would have without the fluke of the Final 4 round. In a Will, Janelle, Boogie Final 3 both take Will, and he easily beats both.
Danielle's (Donato) story is very interesting. First she went from disliked in BB8 (for the record, I actually liked her) to being liked and rooted for in BB13 and then back to being disliked in BB22.
Brunette Dani is badass. Blonde Dani sucks
I'm with ya, I've always enjoyed her, even if AS was a disappointin' run that's a long time for her to have grown and changed.. she's always been a prickly bitch, though, LOL, shocker!! I'd still like to see her back for another shot if it'd be a good returnee twist, tbh, I love me a sassy lady. 😹😹
Yeah, I feel the same way. One of my most disliked players ever the first time, a great underdog hero the second time and right back to being a heel the third time. I guess we only get the good out of Dani when she's a brunette.
@@quiddity131
Blond Dani ❌
Brunette Dani ✅
Nicole A for how early she went out.
Dani for her heel turn from 13 to 22 and her ableism.
Tyler for being checked out and not wanting to be there.
Boogie for his terrible gameplay as a player.
Marcellus for doing…nothing.
Also Jeff for being even more of a bigot child on 13, Frank for blowing it hard only 3 weeks in, Paul for using bullying as a strategy, and Christmas for returning to play Big Brother.
Yeah Dani was so insufferable in 13 and she wasn’t much better in 22, I wish we lived in a timeline where she was only on 8!
Not Christmas for returning to play big brother 😭💀
Tyler is more interesting in the Challenge honestly.
Jeff better be blacklisted from this series I stg
Christmas for returning to play big brother 😂
My Top 5 Disappointments:
1. Nicole F (BB22): she was passive aggressive towards Janelle for no reason. She joined a group of HGs laughing at Ian’s autism. She practiced her “fake cry” eviction speech the night Ian left. She contributed nothing to her alliance until she won HOH at Final 5 when it was just them left. She acted like she was entitled to win Big Brother twice. In short, she ruined her image and reputation on this season.
2. David (BB22): I don’t need to say why - just watch his gameplay. It was a shame because he seemed to read the room correctly back on BB21 and then became a complete idiot on BB22.
3. Janelle (BB14): once the coaches could play the game, she was unwilling to work with Boogie and Dan to sacrifice one of her players (Wil, Joe, and Ashley). She just wasn’t the same player she was on BB6 or BB7.
4. Frank (BB18): he inappropriately slapped Da’Vonne on the butt. He helped Bridgette evict her ally Brontë by putting her on the block as a pawn (she got evicted over Tiffany by one vote that night).
5. Diane (BB7): she was there and did nothing but act like wallpaper the entire time. Her “Mr. and Mrs. Smith” alliance with Jase went nowhere.
It’s hard to fault David too much bc let’s be real putting a FIRST BOOT in an all star season was a failure of a concept
BB really put the minnow in a shark tank and thought it’d somehow work out
Nicole wasn't a disappointment to me the third time because I never had high expectations from her the first 2 times. She simply went ahead with her same exact strategy the third time yet she didn't have a fool making the wrong F3 decision that time. She was never that likable to me, so her not being a good person was no surprise.
David was a dud on BB22, but what can one expect from a player who didn't deserve to be there? As much as he was screwed over for BB21, you save David's return for a Second Chances season, not an All Stars season.
To be fair here, it really was hard for Janelle to want to work with Boogie after he made it pretty clear that he still held some kind of vendetta against her for whatever happened in All Stars
TBF, Janelle was NEVER a good strategist. She never made a true smart move to better her position on both season 6 or 7. She was just insanely great at winning comps to save her ass and postpone her elimination. Still one of the most iconic and entertaining houseguest ever though.
Nakomis placement on All Stars bummed me out…
It as such a bummer
She didn’t mesh well with the house or pre game so she got screwed
All the BB5 players in All-Stars had bad outcomes. Nakomis was immediately targeted and couldn't do anything to stop it, Jase played a lot smarter and yet was screwed over by everyone for "being a threat" over Dr. Will, and Diane just didn't have the fire she had in BB5 to play hard and pretty much gave up. On top of that, all of them went out back-to-back-to-back.
It's a shame cause BB5 is such an underrated season with great players, and the returnees were pretty much the best characters from the season.
I feel like you need to make a part 2 to this list because I feel like we only scratched the surface on this topic. Or, do the opposite of the 5 players that exceeded expectations on the return
Kaysar: “This is a very divided vote.”
Nicole: “Is it though?”
Jaysar: *simultaneously* “Yeah…”
That sent me
Frank BB18 was definitely a downgrade from Frank BB14
The first 6 boots on BB22 made me sadder and sadder. I wanted to see more of all of those players.
Swap Bayleigh with Ian and I agree
The “bigger cause” debacle from Tyler was so embarrassing. You can’t call someone one of the best to play when they basically give up and make such a stupid mistake in the social game like that.
@aceanime8634 He's not even top 20. There's better players out there. Glad Kaycee won over him when he threw that much of a hissy fit.
@@KlaviceGavin Rooting for him so hard at the time its crazy that he took his foot off the pedal near the end like he did. He gets Kaycee out and goes with Angela to the end, he wins unanimously and is arguably considered the best one time player ever; instead he loses to Kaycee and has a disappointing run the second time.
@@quiddity131 That's why I don't consider him robbed in 20 like most people do, because robbed would imply you were screwed by a twist or something mostly out of your control, while Tyler's loss had a lot to do with things that he could've controlled, but failed to...the fight with Bayleigh when he knew blowing up at her would cost him a jury vote, completely mishandling Sam right at the end instead of realizing that it's not the smartest idea to play a cutthroat game with someone who is an emotional person, and throwing final 4 POV to Kaycee was the nail in the coffin, because when Angela was the one he had the best chance of beating at the end, he probably shouldn't have let her go and instead played to win it and take out the far more likable Kaycee, who had already established bonds with the non L6 side of the house early on
I feel like Enzo, despite making it to the end again, played relatively the same and had the same flaws that he had on his original season. He kept playing for second place and not making big moves to boost his own resume and it failed him again.
Technically, he played for third place on his original season.
Kind of like how Paul destroyed their chances at winning because of bad jury management back to back
Enzo's one where the disappointment isn't super high the second time because I doubt a lot of people had high expectations for him for a second time. Frankly he overperformed what I and many other expected in BB22.
@@Kassiopeia1326 I wouldn't say 18 was bad jury management, because they had a winnable scenario if they'd cut Nicole loose right at the end and sat next to James, since the only votes I see James picking up in a Paul/James F2 are Natalie, Michelle, and depending on how bitter she would feel, possibly Nicole, with everyone else going Paul
#1 for me would be Ian on BB22. He didn't really try to make any moves to better himself and just relied on Franzel to get him far. He has no one to blame but himself when he went home.
Nicole Anthony had one of the biggest fall from graces i’ve seen, all she had to do was take Kemi’s side after the show and instead took Jack and Jackson’s side after seeing how hated they were, talk about a hit and miss.
Wait what?? I didn’t know that. She took Jack and Jackson’s side over Kemi’s in what?
She didn't take sides, but she tried to be "neutral" about the situation which was still enough for Kemi to be over her. Sometimes the "Love!!! Positivity!!! Everybody Get Along!!!" shtick just doesn't work.
@@gexghettodamn I didn’t realize Kemi wanted nothing to do with her after the season. I figured she and Kemi were on good terms just like with Ovi!
@@gexghetto Dang...I honestly can't blame Nicole too much for that, because I'm the same way when two people I'm close to start fighting....I straight up am like "You two figure it out on your terms, and leave me out of whatever drama you have going on"
I kind of figured Tyler was going to struggle with Angela separation. If you followed BB20 live feeds closely, you'd have seen how emotionally attached he got to her. She was a considerable influence both game wise and personally. When she got evicted final four, he struggled through the last week of the game... got all depressed, cuddled up with her pillow most of the day, and quietly wallowed in misery.
As such, I figured he'd burn out dealing with months of Angela separation. Was correct.
They broke up and now he's cuddling some girl on The Challenge. It was a toxic relationship.
@KlaviceGavin Met them in person at a meet and greet once. Was in the core of an "influential" Tangela group that got acknowledged a few times. They were very inseparable. Constant close physical proximity and mutual attention.
My own wild guess is that Angela eventually found that a bit too much to deal with 24/7 once the post-BB honeymoon wore off. Apparently things improved for them for a bit after her Challenge run, then fell off again. Her time alone was probably a reprieve. I also think she handled her solo outing (Challenge USA 1) vastly better than he did his (BB22). Challenge Angela was basically BB20 Angela... only the edit actually noticed her properly, lol.
I thought Dani was actually one of the bright spots on BB22. At the end of the day she does get outmaneuvered but definitely gets screwed over by the triple eviction where we don’t get to see her blow up everyone’s games.
I feel like the All Stars 2 cast alone could fill two of these videos
Edit: Oop
PERIDIAM!!!! NOT THE THUMBNAIL
After recently watching every season in a row for the first time, Diane on BB7 bummed me out SO HARD. It’s clear she was just not in a good spot in her life, and I think it really affected her game. Not to mention the pre-season drama. She kicked ass and was a favorite on BB5 for me.
Poor Diane. I didn't know she was going through personal issues, but her behavior now makes sense. I remember she would make these strange outbursts
At the start of the season she spoke a lot about the stuff she was going through. She seems like she’s in a great place with her family now.
Love the list - what about Diane from BB7? I just rewatched the season and she was a shell of her former self. No gameplay, no fighting spirit. Her return was worse than Marcellus imo.
This exactly!!
she was living in her car and on drugs
@@kamfruscianteshit did not know that, that’s rough 😬
I felt the same way about Diane (wrote a comment of my own in more detail). A lot of that was down to her alliance being outed pre-season, but you could tell her heart wasn't in it.
she smoked too much pot!
That Tyra intro 😂
Nicole Anthony was also just not in a good place mentally her second go-around. I think she didn't have enough time to heal from the trauma inflicted on her the season before which was why she was so distrustful
Good list but im surprised you didnt have include Ian. I was so surprised and excited to see him on all stars 2 as i didn't think he would ever come back and play. I guess i was right because he made no impact. He played it safe and as a result had no agency and was easily evicted. Such a disappointment and i doubt we ever get to see him play again.
NOT THE THUMBNAIL 💀💀💀
i'm so happy you mentioned Dani bc i completely agree, i'm still a Dani stan but really did not like watching her on BB22 and i'm happy she's moving on to bigger and better things. but BB13 Dani? iconic
Here’s another one: Cassandra on BBCan5. I was so hyped to see her. And she really disappointed me. Loved her on her first season, but she didn’t have a Tim, and that sunk her, especially against the Neda train that was that season’s prejury.
Everyone had just seen her dominate so obviously she had no chance considering that she sucks at comps. For such an early evictee I think her manipulating Demetres into fighting with Dillon and then having that relationship with him which saved her from being backdoored in Week 2 was pretty impressive. Jealous or not Neda was out to get her and she was screwed because Neda had Ika and S3 on her side
I'm so happy youre actually giving Tyler the full story of what happened. People really forget just how amazing Tyler played the start of that season and I think the Cody/Tyler war would've been amazing where, IMO, Tyler wins. Sadly he conked out
The worst part is that he has only made it harder to defend him after what happened with Bayleigh and Davonne that season. I don’t think Tyler is necessarily a bad guy but his mishandling of that whole situation combined with entering a showmance with someone who dated a literal racist is not a good look!
@@JRJuggernaut1 was Angela previously dating a racist?
See... They call what Tyler did "WMB" or white man's burden. When a Caucasian person tries to be noble for a cause but just ends up looking like a major bigot. The fact he threw a hissy fit when he wouldn't get his jury stipend, just shows how scummy Tyler truly is.
@@briana9168 not sure what you mean but completely irrelevant regardless 🙄
@@KlaviceGavin that’s a valid interpretation of what happened, especially considering I think his main intention behind quitting was being with Angela and not helping Bayleigh and Davonne. He can claim that he genuinely wanted to help them like he said in the jury house, but his behavior since then has not been reassuring of that claim, even if I recognize he was focusing on himself after BB22 and his eventual breakup with Angela!
Nicole A was a total flop, like the definition of a disappointment, She ruined Janelle and Kaysar game and also ruined her own game she was horrible.
I will have to go with Diane and Nakomis from All Stars. Nakomis, Diane and Jase were all hurt pre-season because some alliance they were going to try was ratted out, but it was still disappointing just how little game or idea Nakomis and Diane had when they returned. Nakomis voted against the house because no one bothered to tell her otherwise, then got wrapped up in a lot of pointless hatred for Janelle. By the time she started to improve her position, it was too late. I was a fan of hers and it was just extremely hard to watch her return. Diane was even worse, as she lasted almost a month longer, but had nothing to show for it, again beyond bashing Janelle. I think she would often just say she needed to make jury as she was living in her car. It was sad. I wasn't surprised by Marcellas because he had a very generous edit in BB3 - he was often miserable on the feeds. (he also turned against Janelle several weeks before she nominated him - I still remember how steamed he and Erika were the night BB had a redo of a comp Erika won [Janelle won the redo])
I avoided BB22 because I never wanted another All-Stars season. The first was often a mess and they were lucky it turned out as well as it did. I'm very glad I did. The only positive I have heard from the season (unless you're a Cody fan) is Kaysar and Janelle rekindled their friendship.
Mike Malin was personally disappointing. I rooted for the guy in his original season, BB2, but found out years later that he was saying some racist stuff.
for me, evel dick returning and then leaving the house right away was such a disappointment
DAVID! Bc that man came in knowing nothing about the show, was evicted first from his season, and brought back a year later AND ADMITTED HE STILL HADN'T WATCHED A SEASON OF BIG BROTHER and therefore was still new.
i wish allison made it further on BB7, i absolutely love her but she is such a big threat to other players
Nicole was a massive disappointment for most in BB22, although as one who was very critical of her and Cliff's late game decisions in BB21, decisions that cost them the game, I was nowhere as hyped about her as most other people were about her. Totally on board with her being America's Favorite Player for BB21, but she was never an amazing player and her flaming out right away was no surprise.
Dani was one of my most hated players ever the first time. A terrible player, but also came off as so extremely unlikable. She lost in the F2 to one of the most hated players of all time, it was that bad. The second time she was way more likable and a good underdog along with Porsche and Kalia, but she was still a terrible player, throwing away a golden position after essentially having Neda-esque safety for the prejury part of the game. The third time? I don't know if I remember a single thing about her gameplay. I recall people being psyched for her to get blindsided only for her to go in the triple meaning it was all over in mere minutes.
Tyler I was a huge fan of in BB20, he was my winner pick from the preseason and came within 1 jury vote of pulling it off. He is the #1 reason why BB20 was such an amazing season. Its unfortunate that the same level of drive wasn't there in BB22.
I think the overall point is that the less we think about BB22, the better.
Mike Boogie I can't say disappointed me much in BB14 because I didn't have high expectations of him anyway. He was never that great. Will was the main reason he was so successful in All Stars and he clearly didn't want to play the game, just coach.
Finally, Marcellas. I actually watched BB7 as my first BB season, so I didn't know much of his history at the time beyond the infamous not using the veto moment which is what he was known for. I disliked him considerably throughout that season and was glad when he left. He was a big part of the entertainment in BB3 when I eventually went back and watched it, but didn't bring much to BB7.
You are just a Tommy Bracco fanboy who is bitter Nicole evicted his ass. Tommy will always be a faggy loser, a weird homo freak.
Tommy Bracco should have returned for All Stars instead. He is a total sweetheart, one of the nicest people you will ever meet (I have even meet him in real life a couple times and he is so genuine and kind), extremely handsome, a really strong BB player too with lots of potential to be even better, IMO he at worst a close 2nd best player of BB21 behind Jackson and would have beaten everyone that season in a jury vote including Jackson, and was best positioned to make the end of everyone too until Jackson/Holly's insane comp run. I am only dissapointed he isn't slightly better TV as he is a performer in real life and he doesn't seem boring, but not the most interesting character on TV the way he seems to be in a real life, which is strange, but he is still the one I would have liked to return.
Why did people like Daniele in BB13? The only thing I remember her doing is defecting from the veterans to the useless newbies for no reason, which led to her promptly being evicted. She was a clown.
She honestly wasn't good on any of her seasons. Worst finalist ever on BB9 IMO. Had such awful jury management, lost to her dad who everyone hated, and is nowhere near making the end without Americas Player (her Dad isn't either but not rating him here) and her huge comp run.
Frank’s return to BB18 could’ve been included for sure.
I still carry the anti-Tyler sentiment. Bro, you had an opportunity to go against and challenge Cody, but you threw in the towel midway in the game. I don't ever want to see you on a reality show ever again, including The Challenge.
Boogie in BB14 clearly didn’t care anymore or he didn’t have Will! Which one is it?
I think both.
@@teamsteed1 Most Likely!
don’t worry nicole has me blocked too 🤣
The most public way to ask someone to unblock you from their socials
Ya that thumbnail made me laugh ha hopefully this video shows up on her UA-cam feed and she sees it
Unpopular opinion: BB22 Daniele was my favorite version of Daniele. Yeah, I hated the people she aligned with that season, but I just enjoyed how bad-ass her gameplay was. I feel like the triple eviction robbed her of the story arc she deserved as the true villainess of the season. The entire season was building to her downfall and they yada yada'd it. So... frustrating
BB13 Daniele is the most popular version of her, but her gameplay sucked that year. She actually was a terrible ally to Brendon/Rachel who were going to be loyal to her. Expecting Brenchel to backdoor JeJo was seriously so ridiculous, and the fact that she spent the rest of the game spiteful and butt hurt that they didn't was so weird. Obviously, we rooted for her because the Brenchel/JeJo alliance really needed to be knocked down a peg, but really Jeff was the jerk there and I'm glad Rachel won.
BB8 Daniele I don't wanna hold against her too much because she was sooo young, but she was such a spoiled brat. Everything the house accused Jen of that year, Daniele actually was. Daniele really messed up backdooring Jen instead of working with her. She could've won bringing Jen to F2 and Jen would've been loyal to her, plus Jen was a comp beast. Once Jen was out, Daniele was playing for second.
exactly Dani ate on BB22
I really didnt care for BB22. It was such a meh All Stars season that made me not even want to watch week to week by half way in.
Nicole Anthony looks and talks like Emily from the SnakeDiscovery channel
Tyler was my absolute favourite in BB20 from week 1 and then All Stars was just such a huge disappointment to me. I blame Angela lol. All he did was talk about how much he missed her while he was there.
I’m surprised David wasn’t on here. He seemed like an entirely different player when comparing his camp bb next level perception to his bb22 obliviousness and terrible lies throughout pretty much the entirety of his screen time. It makes me regret thinking he would’ve been qualified to be an all-star.
yeah I think he needed to try and play like the actual legends in the house but it was horrible because those people were never buying his lies. If he had returned against newbies or other early boots his gameplay may have been more affective.
BB22 was the worst. It seems like it was all a setup for Cody to win. No one who was outside of his pre-built alliance stood a chance, and no one in his alliance would seriously challenge him and instead hand him the w.
Well it could have been worse. Nicole could have become the first ever 2 time winner (barf).
BB19 is worse but not by much.
Top 5 most disappointing for me were
1. Kaysar bb7
2. Daniele bb22
3. Cassandra bbcan5
4. Frank bb18
5. Mike boogie bb14
C'mon Peridiam, you can't have three out of five players from the same season. Also, even though I personally hate Boogie, I'd give him a pass in S14 because he never even wanted to play.
1:05 yes, I loved her storyline so much. And then.....
David for me was the biggest disappointment because I always felt terrible for the Day 1 boots in BB history and when someone finally gets a chance, he was such a non factor. Granted the whole "did you vote to save me" segment was one of the few highlights of BB22, but it was more indicative on how poor David's performance was than anything else.
Nicole A was definitely tragic. I do hope the experience in BB22 didn't effect her too much :(
Thank you, we needed a chicken George character and, I thought David was fine for that random return. It's the majority of the rest I questioned.
I undertand nicole (21) return because she is a fan favorite but,see her win her first HoH in the duble eviction of 21 and she decide to not target jackson and Holly made me think...
WHY the producers bring her back after she made one the worst moves ever ,when people like Britney,danielle reyes,vanessa and rachel cold taken her place .
She cold be a 2nd chanche favorite but not a ALL STAR .
Exactly!
danielle rachel and I think vanessa couldn't return
I’m pretty sure every player you named declined to come back
I’m pretty sure Britney and Vanessa both weren’t interested and Rachel couldn’t go as she was pregnant
@@jackmcg0yeah maybe they not return but are better players than her,also vanessa is the best woman to play only one season in the show .
Had Tyler not damaged his game, I do think it was his season to take. I really felt he was the front runner up until that point and even made a hard fight to make it as far as he did when he came to his senses.
The funniest part about Tyler checking out of bb22 is that he still played one of the best games, and Could’ve won had he secured Enzo’s loyalty in the week he tried to quit
I’m unfortunately most disappointed by bb22 as well. I was so excited for all stars and then…oof
The Tyra Banks ANTM opening quote 😂
I disagree with Boogie and Marcellas. Boogie b/c he lived up to his gameplay, he was never that good lol come on. And Marcellas, I just rewatched All Stars and he was fine, he had fun segments with Howie and insulting big brother 6. I think if he won HoH he could’ve been better, but a disappointment? Noooooooo that’s a really poor take.
I’d say Diane and Paul were bigger disappointments (she was such a downer and a grouch, while Paul just made the season one of the worst if not for BB22
Boogie had a hand in orchestrating Janelle's Eviction in s14, way better picks than him
@@sunshinehwy yes this is true too! I enjoyed the Boogie vs Janelle plus the Boogie vs Dan. I wish Janelle would’ve won the war, but I mean it was still entertaining overall.
To me Boogie palyed about as well as I expected him to without Will carrying him. He was a poor player his first season, rode Will's genius and his fake relationship with Erika to the all-stars win, and then returned to sub-standard play on S14
Boogie was worth just to see Britneys goodbye message
Dick in BB13, Frank in BB18 and Ian in BB22 are easily in my top 5.
Dick in 13 got removed since he had contracted HIV IIRC…not really fitting for this kind of list, since it wasn’t anything he did in the game to be considered disappointing.
Frank and Ian though, agreed, especially Frank
Also Mike Boogie was disappointing literally just because he never wanted to play it. If he actually tried he could've done something.
Also very surprised you didn't do another bbcan switch up at the end and say Neda was a big disappointment. Not only was she not as strong a game player than her bbcan2 game, but she was very catty and very hypocritical and just not good.
i think diane on all stars was rlly disappointing. she could’ve won bb5 if she hadn’t got drunk and i like her personality. she got no screen time on bb7
Jase's placement on All-Stars bummed me out he was still a wild character but this time was ready to play, he was still a villain but was smart. that damn backdoor 🥲 the pre-jury placements in general was rough
Marcellas spent most of s6 in bed. LOL
I would say brendan in bb13 if only for the fact that he really struggled with making a dent gameplay wise he was just a shield for Rachel but unlike in bb12 where he made some connections outside of Rachel
Most of returning players in BBCAN5 did horribly except one. Ika became the biggest star of the history of the show after her reign in season 5, but most of the returning ruined their legacy.
Ika and Kevin were the only ones who truly improved their reputation with BBCAN5.
@@olivermensinger6022 Kevin won but his gameplay was atrocious. He was lucky by winning comps.
The thumbnail is sending me 💀💀
I think the incredibly unhealthy, codependent relationship Tyler had with Angela was a huge detriment to his game. That combined with the fact that both of them had just gone vegan (a diet that definitely takes longer than a few months to get 100% right, to keep your energy and focus up) a few months earlier. I don't think he was mentally or physically able to play a good game in BB22. He's doing great on the Challenge, and he looks much healthier than he did on All Stars.
And then him being in the majority alliance while trying to be friends with David (the king of self-sabotage) and Arbor Day (one of the worst players from both of her seasons, imo) when he was used to playing with people like Kaycee who understood the game and fought to be there, I think just wore him down.
He could have been someone to root for, and I think if there's ever an All Stars 3, and he gets invited back, he could actually win.
for sure. I think now that he's no longer with Angela and returned to reality tv with the Challenge, he's a lot more likely to return on the next returnee season an actually feel motivated to be there
You should take out Boogie from BB14 and put Frank from BB18 instead. Boogie as a player atleast orchestrated the Janelle backdoor and still brought some entertainment. Frank in BB18 was not only unlikable but his gameplay was also pretty terrible, id argue that Franks BB18 game is the 1 of the most actively bad game from a returning player
His misogyny was also so awful on 18 that he sexually assaulted Davonne. Watching him there made me realize he was never that good in 14 either, that’s pretty bad to make me think less of you on your previous run!
Bb22 was full of pregaming so it isn't Nicole fault that people was pregaming already
I think Tyler had alot going on in his personal life during that season and just didnt want to be there
I don't think your tweet was that bad but kind of badly written with some passive aggressive digs. Your content, writing and other manners are a TON better in 2023, you have grown as a person a lot. Nicole read the lines "ALL the messiness and bad reads...", "glad she'll be leaving", "now lets win an HoH" as being happy she left the show and rooting for other players. So to her you came off as a personal enemy. That is my take on why she blocked you. Sorry that happened I know you are a big supporter!
Kaysar played 3 times and didn’t reach jury in any of the season he participated . He’s a likeable person but man as a player does he suck
Boogie didn’t have the best individual game on BB14, but he did cannily pick out Ian’s game potential.
Im going to giess Nakomis or Alison (BB7), James Huling and Nicole Anthony will be on there.
Nicole A was such a mess and I don't think she ever really apologized for it...
I can't really agree on Marcellas that high, or even top 5 all time dissapointment. I can agree he was a dissapointment since yes he wasn't the character, personality, or story of Big Brother 3, but the key thing is he was NEVER a good player even on Big Brother 3, so in that sense he wasn't that dissapointing, as from a game play perspective he did about as well as would be expected in an All Star cast, and that is still the most important thing. That is different from Danielle, Tyler, Nicole A, Boogie, and some others who were all a big dissapointment from a game play perspective, and otherwise, in their returns. Granted Nicole A arguably was never that good a player on BB21 despite her high placement, but her game play was pretty terrible on BB22, while Marcellas wasn't playing that badly, just mediocre on All Stars, and essentialy was a bad player who got far on BB3, so really no decrease there. Heck he might have even played a marginally better game on All Stars than BB3, where he atleast didn't do a single thing nearly as dumb as not using the veto on himself as the clear target.
Peridiam, Cody BB16/22 still has me blockED because Paulie was running his account in 16 😂 I never @'d him but he stalked the search.
Tyra could never
We need a part 2 that excludes bb all stars 2
The best part about BB22 is the fact that the house is beautiful
Funny I didn’t take you for an Americas Next Top Model Fan!!!
I didn't watch s7 Live but I would say Diane as well
i would love to see your current all stars lineup!!!
Nicole Franzel was very different in bb22. Played a much worse game, and also was more irritating. She was good in bb18. I don't know why you saidnshe was the same as usual.
Part 2:
Frank,Jase,James Huiling,Nakomis,Mama Day
She blocked me too. 😂 No idea why.
Hope she will unblock you)
David. I still stand by him not bein' a terrible choice, gotta have a chicken George, but, damn, about all but about three or four others needed a third option.
Frank’s return in BB18 was such a letdown even Peridiam forgot about it 😂
My brother, sister, and I, from BB16-22, we watched together, but All-Stars 2 turned my siblings off.