Curved vs Flat Monitor Performance| In Depth Analysis
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Some not-so-common facts about curved displays that most people gloss over.
Updated Dec 2021: Viewsonic has updated their article and have removed the research I quoted.
www.viewsonic.com/library/ent...
Research Paper for curved vs flat
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How I calculated the angles for the monitors.
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Timestamps:
0:00 intro
0:32 curve uniformity
1:24 gaming
2:47 productivity
3:09 field of view
4:31 eye strain and glare
6:03 conclusion - Наука та технологія
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I love the fact that you went into the study about eye strain and figured out that the data is cherry picked.
Its probably the most important point to confirm before you quote any study.
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@@mikelisteral7863 Where????
@@AssassinIronMan any monitor review that doesnt talk about back light bleed is ignorant
@@mikelisteral7863 lol you sound like a Trump supporter
@@AssassinIronMan where did you get political stance from any of what he said wtf?
Finally, a guy who is straight to the point, who knows how to do research, and isn’t a flashy youtuber with their stupidly “WOW” thumbnails...
May 2021 Update: I've had my curved Monitor for a while, and I enjoy it much more than my office computer that is still nice, new but isn't curved. If you've been on the fence on curved monitors, they're worth the experience.
Imagine a video about monitors with wow thumbnails
@@tapper666 They exist
@@tapper666 Sadly the guy above is correct
im just replying to keep the 1 reply per week going
@@TDPlayz im just replying to keep the 1 reply per week going
This video is probably Saving a lot of money out there.
Saved me
Curved monitors cost the same as flat monitors for the moment. The main thing is to decide whether you want a VA panel vs IPS. All curved monitors are VA. If you are gaming or completing tasks in a mostly dim or dark setting, VA is the best choice, curved or not. IPS is better when dealing with bright environments, minis the glare.
Saved me too
@@future_teknokrat7585 IPS is universally considered better for gaming.
@@kbob9625 except the G7 is pretty much the best gaming monitor
"Just eyeball the angle"
Pretty much summed up my entire experience with graphic design right there
Architecture?
Rich: Buy Curved Monitor
Not so Rich: Flat Monitor
Linus: 16 Flat Monitor, 16K RESOLUTION!
Curved monitor is cheaper
This video made me check my curved screen with a ruler to see if I got all the curve I paid for.
you get all the curve or what?
Update us ffs
Do not forget to update the monitor firmware to take advantage of the latest curves.
The suspense is curving my brain
He didn't get the curve and smashed his monitor in a fit of rage
I know you've had lots of praise from others, so this may get lost in the shuffle, but I wanted to say how great these videos are and how much I appreciate them. Thank you for being authentic, simple, deep and for doing it with your own money. Your videos really help me. Blessings on all you do!
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@@mikelisteral7863 ??
I have an acer curved screen and when i look a a flat display it dosnt look right to me. Almost like the flat screen is curving the opposite way.
I just made the switch about a month ago (from curved back to flat) and I had this feeling for about a week yeah. It was very weird. Went away though.
Holy shit I had the same feeling, went from curved to flat and for about a week it looked like it was sticking out toward me! Gotten used to it now tho.
I've switched back and forth a couple times over the years and now there's zero adaption time moving between them, but yeah the first time each transition was trippy.
Well, it is curving away from you, sort of. What I mean is on a flat monitor, the sides are a bit farther away from your eyes than the center. That's not an optical illusion, it's just what we're used to, and usually only particularly noticeable as you get into bigger monitors.
Omg same. I have an ultrawide curved monitor so everytime i sit in front of a flat monitor it seems like it's curved the other direction. Its so weird
"Advertisers are really good at promoting their products. Almost like they do it for a living".
Great line and awesome video. Thank you!!
Eggaxctly. Only in the 2020s does a straight line that doesn't look straight isn't considered as a defect.
By "promoting", does he mean 'lie through their teeth' in order to make a sale?
And by lying, this includes ommisions to deceive potential buyers.
(hence the text in the click image of this vid "What they didn't tell you.")
Based on thoughtful review vids I've watched so far.
- Curved is a good idea, for the immersion, but not if the monitor is small; and not a single monitor.
- 1000R curved 27 or 32" monitors are ridiculous. The curve is too tight.
I theorise they made them to sell to folks who haven't much money, and like to play with their face a few hundred mm from the screen...extreme budget immersion.
- The best way to immerse yourself is with mutilpe monitors with a low curve rate, with a minimum coverage of two monitors.
- I theorise manufacturers realised not everyone can afford multiple monitors, and they can make more money by deceptively advertising single curved monitors, hence, e.g., the idiotic 1000R curve.
glare test is a rare case of bringing something to my attention that i didnt think about myself)
I'm a UI designer who once had a curved monitor. The fact that I couldn't have a straight line appear straight on my monitor was a deal breaker for me. I just purchased a flat 34 inch ultrawide monitor.
curved monitors are TERRRIBBBLEEEE for things like modeling, photoshop, and things like that
@@TheJedimaster6788What about just viewing photos and videos, and general desktop use?
Got the BenQ Ex3203R and i think the curved screen is just perfect. it isnt noticeable and during gaming it's more immersive. Still great video tho!!
Hey yeahmap!! didnt think i would see you here, i used to watch your forza videos and they were so fun!
I genuinely respect your work, from personal impressions to going through relevant papers. This is great as it gets for me :)
This felt like the Mythbusters but for curved monitors, good job! I wonder when we'll get a hybrid monitor that could switch between flat and curved by using something like flexible screens tech.
honestly I could see that happening in like 10 - 20 years
@@Ystijger nah man I can see that happening in the next 2-3 years . You did see flexible phones right . Like just bend the monitor as you wish . It doesn’t have to last thousand of bends just a few hounded would be enough if you bend it everyday once for 3 years u are under 1000
@@Ystijger Its possible with oled right now but its impractical
it just happened, check the corsairs. Pretty impressive
@@Ystijger welp, corsair has announced their monitors that can change haha
awesome review! pacing is improving and research is spot on. I loved the glaring example with the moving light!
Thanks Kurt! I appreciate your feedback!
This is next level analysis and I learned alot from it, really appreciated you made this video!
Such an amazing content and comparisons, you helped me so much. Hope your channel grows a lot!
That is pretty much my observation after buying a curved monitor. The distortion is more distracting than the immersion it can provide. I wouldn't buy another curved monitor unless, maybe, it is a ultra wide.
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Yeah i just went with flat monitor before i even watched this video so lucky me haha
As someone who has been using an ultrawide BenQ 35 l xr3501 for nearly 4 years I can really recommend an ultrawide curved monitor.
Mine being an older model (released in 2015) only has a 2000R curve to it compared to the tighter curves on newer models. I bought this monitor for a pretty good price in 2017 and even though it might be showing it's age I am not in a rush to buy a new monitor. (especially considering recent scalping of GPUs and the likes)
for 16:9 go flat, if ultrawide, absolutely go curved, its definitely amazing to have
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Excellent analysis. I'm binge-watching your reviews.. so I need to subscribe. Done!
Finally a great comparative review. Thanks a lot! There's nothing better than this one.
Bro, you just saved me a lot of head-ache (literally) and also some money. Thank you!
It's a bit exaggerated. I've never experienced headaches using my curved monitor
Was able to use one at a friend house, and the limited viewing position was my biggest gripe. And it isn't just horizontal position due to the focal point, but vertical position too. With the curve, viewing from too high or low magnifies the distortion on the farthest end. Positioning my eyes anywhere but directly center felt uncomfortable, which was an issue for my friends setup which limited the monitors vertical adjustment.
need to get your rating up, was researching monitors for my new pc. You are the only one I found, who actually tries to show the experience scientifically. And not just like a advertisement. Really enjoyed viewing your video.
The final single minute footage nailed every thing practically ! Thanks a lot bro
I rarely give thumbs up. I love the amount of research you've done (rare these days). Cheers
Why
@@ThawhidProbably doesn't want to add videos they won't watch again to their "liked videos" playlist. I only give thumbs up on videos I think I may want to watch again.
@ClassicalPan oh I'm the opposite. I like everything I watch, except ofcourse if I actually don't like it. I just save videos in separate playlists if needed
Wow, really detailed explanation, this was really what im looking for, great job
Way more thorough than I expected. Great work!
Love how you go through research papers of good publications and compare the results.
Amazing detailed research! You're awesome!
I heard so many complaints like this before getting a curved display (but mine was ultrawide) and none of this ended up bothering me. Who sits on the side of the monitor for work?? Even gaming is fine, you don't really notice the stretching of the edges, cause you look at the middle part mostly.
Same I have an ultrawide curved one too and the gaming experience especially for casual games is insanely good
Yeah it makes sense both flat and curved have their pros and cons, it just depends which one better fits your needs/preference and exactly what each one excels at. I have 2 MSI QHD 1440p 144 Hz gaming monitors myself and love them, although I would like to remove the gap between them somehow lol.
@@fatihgul613 Do you mean like watching streams or movies from the bed/counch? I do that, I love the view myself but I think if you have a big curved TV for movies that would yield even better experiences.
Great video. I love how indepth you go, while still keeping it easy to understand and to the point. Subscribed.
The best explanation on Cuved V. Flat monitors. You were analytical without being overly cynical and explained it all in simple terms. Keep it up as we could use more people like you in the community.
This is excellent, many simple things that the sellers don't state. Thank you!
They best takeaway I can get in this video is to test the monitors first before you buy them. It feels pretty unlikely right now but if you have friends that have the monitor you want to buy, try out theirs first to get a feel for it.
Except you have to BUY the monitors to test them. . . If you follow the video, or don't have a local shop.
Hands down the most underrated review on youtube
So good! Thanks for taking the time to make this video! Super helpful!
subbed for the review and making it easier for me to understand
At 1:08 you use a 15cm instead of 30cm flat edge and therefore have less gap.
I was reading through the comments to see if anyone points this out. The video used a shorter length of ruler to measure the edge than the center. That's why the screen is flatter towards the edge. Apart from this, it's a good review.
This video makes so many points that I hadn’t thought of AT ALL. Thanks.
I think such high quality content is very rare on UA-cam. Thanks!!
Wow this was a great vid! I truly appreciate it!
Didnt do a scientific research before i bought a curved 27" MSI screen but have now used it for three years and still like it. 👍
@Omnibud curved monitors are better
Man, that glare demonstration was fantastic.
I Really appreciate your depth of analysis and presenting in an easy manner 👍😁
I think the 1000r has worked well for the 32". I do not have enough space for two monitors on my desk. Therefore the 32" g7 has allowed me to get close to a two monitor experience up close (for productivity). Then an immersive gaming experience with the 1000r curve which I do not think is extreme for 32".
Very cool and interesting video, I hope you'll get more views you really deserve them... I'll continue to watch all your videos :)
really good reportings, hope your channel grows fast!
Great analysis. Goes into everything I was looking for.
Ips has better viewing angles and color than VA panels do. The curved displays were VA and the flat one was ips.
@@LZeugirdorTrue, but viewing angles are going to be irrelevant to most people because we position ourselves at the optimal viewing angle anyway, and most of us don't have several people looking at the display.
This is The review... Gets straight to the point...!
This was a fantastically thorough comparison.
Bro now that's a detail and fact rich review with math thrown in and academic papers. You've saved me from getting a 1000r monitor! Definitely subbing.
Got a slight curved ultrawide 21:9 screen. It's perfectly fine for production. Where it shines is open world games and multiple windows at the same time. I'd advice not going for a very curved screens as my screen, which has just a slight curve is well enough and more would actually worsen the experience in my opinion.
what's the R rating on your monitor?
@@cristianitsirc6830I'd like to know, too.
I own a fairly cheap curved monitor, the msi optix mag241c. It's 24 inch with a 1500R curve. I absolutely love it! Works great in competitive fps games too.
>24 inch
Yeah of course you like it because it's friggin tiny and you won't get an experience with it even if it was flat anyway
I was on the fence. Best video and the last one I have to see before purchasing. Thanks.
Thank you! That's very useful. Especially the counterintuitive part about the FPSs.
I myself got a curved monitor from my father a 24 inch and one thing I notice is that I get fatigue a lot faster if I play fast movemnt games but after all I enjoy it it's pretty good you seem like you have a better vision in every corner of the screen
To get the same experience as 'us' he bought 3 monitors out of his own money.. that got me laughing but mainly crying tbh 🤣😭 good vid tho 🖖
I could just type down everything he said and turn in a thesis. This is an excellent review
Best video on this ive seen. Thanks you so much for making it Reviews For Life.
I have an astigmatism and every since I got a curved Samsung 27in monitor it has made a difference in how my eyes feel after a long session. Also just upgraded my 2nd screen(2006 flat screen) to a new MSI 27in curved. They look great together 2 curved 27in monitors 🤩
How is msi now in my country there are no good service should I buy or not
Amazing review thank you very much! Getting myself a flat one. Also my second monitor is also flat so it's better for me
I love the content. I wish there were more sources like this! Subscribed!
best video on this topic. man, you just done it better than any one else. straight to the point, necessary things, and final conclusion..best bro best.
I really enjoy my 27", 1500 curved, 165hz, 1 ms VA screen.
I tried a flat 27" IPS but changed back to curved.
supprise me . i just bought VA 1500 . thanks for ur comment
I have a fault in my left eye which makes me partially blind on the left eye which messes with my depth perception(I can only see with about 60 percent of my eye) and when playing with a flatscreen for more than 1 and a half hour I would get this weird feeling of being further away from things than I really am which stopped happening after I switched to a curved one.
I always had my doubts. Thanks for this!
Fascinating, I had never considered the things you're describing in your video, thanks!
I’ve been using a 1800R monitor for about 3 years now, a very weird effect I’ve noticed is when looking at a normal flat monitor, it looks bowed or fish eyed. And apparently this is a common effect people experience all over the world.
Yes, a similar thing happened in reverse years ago when flat screen televisions began to take over from older CRT units with a convex screen curvature. If you'd been used to watching the curved screen, a flat screen image looked concave as if it was bowing in across the center. Once you'd been watching the flat screen exclusively for long enough, your brain relearned and the flat screen began to look "normal".
@Fishy hmm no, I drive for living, and I’ve never had a car accident and have had a curved monitor now for over three years, the reason for curves monitors is because your eyes are not round they are curved, and the curve in most monitors are the same natural curvature of your eyes.
@Fishy _"...can potentially cause permanent eye damage and possibly increase car accidents or other injuries"_
Absolute nonsense.
@Fishy hahaha WTF no. I used a 1800R curved monitor for years and then switched to a flat IPS monitor. I have to say I prefer the curved one for sure because it gives superior viewing overall, but I wanted an IPS panel over the VA. Also, the first 2 weeks of using the flat monitor it was kinda weird as it looked like the monitor is bowed outwards in the center but after 2 weeks I guess I got used to it and it looks normal to me now.
@Fishy I've never had any problems while driving. I didn't notice anything weird with my eyes, as other curved monitor users mentioned as well.
Great video but there is one point and demonstration that I found a little confusing. When you were talking about the curve of the monitor not being uniform you showed this with a ruler, but when you showed the "flat" ends of the monitor you only put half the ruler on the display. I'm not sure if the point still stands, but I think a better way of showing this is taking a picture from above and putting the edge of a circle over it to see how far the curve strays from an actual circular shape.
Good point! That information could've been better presented better by taking a picture like you said.
Thanks for making this. I really wanted to know more about curved screens.
Wow this is an amazing video, thank you for putting it together. Learned so much and so easily.
When I see straight lines after curved monitor everything is distorted.
Try the LG 38gl950 3840x1600 ultrawide with a curve of 2300. Coming from a flat panel this is realy good, but expensive
What an informative, well-researched and pertinent video. Thank you
What a great in depth video! I’ve been considering getting a curved monitor and this helps inform my decision. Thanks!
did you or did you not buy it?
The 27" G7 was my first curved, and I mostly play Quake and CoD, and I sit pretty close, and there has been no issues with this. Doesn't feel weird and no motion sickness.
Same here 27" G7 Curved, love it for 240hrtz Overwatch.
Yeah it definitely depends on where you sit. But I googled curvatures and view distance before I got the 32 g7 and it’s meant for sitting in front of and immersion. I think this video is sort of an exercise in semantics. You don’t get an aggressive curved monitor unless you Intend on sitting in front of it in a way that captures your whole eye sight. I liked it so much I got a 32 G5 to put next to it.
@@Venomx-nb1jr Hard agree, shame most people commenting don't seem to understand the short comings of the video.
@@Jack-zt1sr I want to take one for overwatch too, but not sure
@@Alloniya As long as you can reach high fps, like 200+ it's definitely worth it. OW isn't too graphically intensive, so should be doable for many newer cards, even if you have to turn down settings. I'm at near max settings, consistent 240fps with a 3070, just fyi.
There is a fundamental problem with this testing because between the ViewSonic and Samsung one is 32 inch and one is 27 inch and one is 240 HZ and one is 144 HZ so it's not only a measuring curved versus flat he's also measuring different sizes different response times and different hertz.
different panels too
best video on this topic yet. love ur content RFL
Speachless! THANK YOU
I have a curved ultrawide 34". Its a good monito but I dont think curve is any usefull. At the beginning I noticed it very clear but as you get used to it, it just seems flat. If you ask me if curved is better I cant really see any advantage.
I've been wanting to upgrade from my flat 27" to a curved 34" ultrawide for some time now for gaming, but with me working from home now as well I worry a curved ultrawide would be terrible for my CAD and 3D modelling work (with straight lines appearing curved). Would you agree?
The older ultrawides (Dell, Asus or Acer) were quite large curves, and perhaps this would be okay for CAD work? Unfortunately it seems the trend of manufacturers now is muh more aggressive 1500R and 1000R curves which is a shame.
Wow, seeing your comment is a bless from God. I too work with Auto CAD and Solidworks and i'm building my own PC so i could work at home and i was just thinking about what you said and the monitor i was hoping to buy which is the Odyssey G7. I am too concerned if the distortion would be that big of a deal breaker =/
This is such a good video, with great information. Thanks!
This is actually amazing! Thank you.
You really got to the point with well researched straightened up answers. Well done, you got a subscriber :)
I'm sure you can get a lot more followers in time if you keep doing what you did in this video. Success is exponential.
Thank You... I am about to buy a monitor next month and I am still money to buy a good monitor.. This video helped me understand that instead of 1000R buy a 1500R Display monitor.
Wich one did you buy? I got the Mi Surface 34 (3440x1440, 144hz, 32', freesync) for around 444€ , best decision ever.
Great and honest review and research, subed, keep-it-up!
Thank you. Bcs you do this for people. Not for money.
Interesting topic. I stopped messing with my fov when I got a curved monitor because I felt I didn’t need to. Good to know though. I really just think it’s about preference. I sit very close to my monitor because my setup is dookie cheese so that’s probably why I prefer the curve.
I never bought in to the curved hype, but after seeing a 34" HDR Ultra-wide on sale I started to get interested. This kinda makes me realize I should just stick with my gut and stay flat.
For me swapping to a curved ultrawide felt nice and immersive, and then years later swapping back to a flat monitor felt slightly jarring. Personally for screens larger than 27'' I prefer curved. Either way you get used to whatever you're currently using, and it's one of the specs I pay the least attention to. Curved is just a little bonus if the other specs are to my liking.
@@ShinyVeggie True, and if theres a very mild curve on a 21:9 I can totally see how it would be more helpful than leaning your head to get a good look at the corners, lol.
For gaming I can see it being nice and immersive. Do you do any photo editing or graphic design?
@@GrizDrummer25 I've only done some very amateur work for profile pictures and my not so successful youtube channel. My insight is not very reliable, but I would say if the curve is not very steep, then your content creation won't suffer much at all unless you're an actual professional on the field and need that absolute distortion free experience.
I have a 1800r 37inch ultra wide and I love it
You're a true internet bro for this one, thanks.
Very well explained! You have earned a sub. Keep it up 👍
Maybe you should try an UW; curves on a 27" 16:9 doesn't really seem necessary imo.
Facts. My 34 in ultra wide 21:9 is amazing in FPS games like CoD.
I almost bought a curved screen monitor till I saw this
If it’s ultrawide then curved is wonderful, if not then it’s just dumb.
@@-Burb where are you getting that?
It literally boils down to which games you play and the environment you place your gaming set up in.
Some games the curved is better, some games and work related scenarios the flat is better.
@@zero_grav_original
I own a curved ultrawide, it’s great since it’s really the only way to see the whole screen without having a large angle difference between your head and the screen.
I’ve personally seen many many 16:9 monitors, curved and not curved, and every time I see a curved one it’s more annoying to look at than simply looking at a flat screen. They’re just not big enough to warrant being curved, and unless you stick your head within 2 feet of the monitor then the curve is typically way too much to the point where, rather than being able to look at the screen directly head on, the manufacturer has curved it too far to where you’re no longer looking straight at the screen, which is kind of the point of the curve.
So I guess it’s not inherently bad, but every curved 16:9 monitor I’ve ever seen has been curved in way too far by the manufacturer. The viewing angle on 16:9 monitors are typically much better when they’re just flat.
Thank you ! I really needed this review.
great video. I'm unsure if I should buy a curved or a regular monitor and this helped me a lot
UA-cam recommended me this probably cause I looked for a good 32 panel. So I bought the 32 Samsung G7. The curve is very aggressive and my brain had not adapted to it after 3 month. I changed it for a flat Gigabyte M32Q. Turns out I'd rather live with washed out blacks. If you want the aggressive curve you should try it before you but it.
I made the exact same mistake with the 27 inch model. I thought that I'd eventually get used to the curve but it made me nauseous and movies/shows felt distorted. Maybe it depends on the person but I can't get used to curved screens. It just feels unnatural and 1000r is ridiculous
@@JamesWolffPiano It surely is, man.
@@JamesWolffPiano My 34 WQHD G5 will arrive in 2 days, hope it works out for me. Sadly I couldn't test it anywhere near me beforehand. I really don't wanna bring back a giant monitor to the next postal office for returns.
@@MegaJoka100 It's a fantastic monitor. I just personally struggled to get used to the curve and it gave me a headache. Hopefully you'll have better luck though!
My take away: if I want curved, go ultra-wide curved
Thank you for the great review! No bias for one brand over another, you simply stayed on topic for the design not the maker / seller.
How did you get to that conclusion from the video? That's not what he said
@@Davo198 did you even watch this video, or listen to what he said? Multiple times he references how things are more severe on the 1000r, and around the 6:20 point I think it was, he soecifically states he’d rather have the 1500r than the 1000r.
Why? The larger the radius, the flatter the screen. So, you’re getting curved, without drastic curve.
A great analysis , appreciated .
This video got a lot better when the trig was brought out. Always enjoy comparing things with math to further make more sense on the product.
Really well researched video. I have had my first ultrawide, curved monitor for exactly one year after a lifetime of flat monitors and have to say that I enjoy it a lot. It helps with the immersion in gaming, but for everyday use, it's not that beneficial. I have a multi-monitor setup with two flat panels on either side of my curved ultrawide. From my limited experience in the matter it seems like the curvature only helps with either larger 16:9 panels above 34", or ultrawide panels. From what I've seen it doesn't seem like a curved panel makes much of a difference on a 27" 16:9 or below since the screen is small enough that you can see all of it well enough without needing curvature to bring the edges closer to your eyes. That's just my opinion though, what do you think?
I agree with your assessment. Curved is better for ultrawides and larger. I've also done a video on a ultra, ultrawide, and that's when the curve really makes a difference. Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/w_flxNoRvBg/v-deo.html
@@ReviewsForLifeYT Thanks. I will.
@@acidwizard6528 Hello, so you mean a 34 ultrawide that is flat is still fine?
@@arvi8843 I haven't seen one that is 34" ultrawide, and flat. My main monitor is exactly that but with the curve. I'm sure it would be fine either way, but it's my feeling based on no scientific studies whatsoever that smaller screens don't benefit as much from being curved.
@@acidwizard6528 Thank you for your insight. 🙂