The thing is if i dont hit the turret in lower elo then there is a chance that we might not get it because in low elo (bronze) no one is pushing the lane. So maybe your laner wont hit the turret rest of the game your hits could matter when you think about it.
I think the cooldown tip should be repeated for low elo support. Never punishing a missed hook, ezreal e forward, etc and just giving the enemy bot the time needed to get the ability again
Repeat it for ADCs as well. The amount of times I go in to punish cds my ADC stands behind the wave waiting to last hit. If my ADC doesn't know, well, it's dangerous for me to soak aa's and then I int, and it's no one's fault but mine for going in without an ADC... right? Or is it the ADC's fault for prioritizing something else? Nope. You int it's always your fault and you'll get reported no matter what the reason.
for real i rcently had a support lux thar just stood back after i dodge morg q and jhin w, go in, dodge another morg q, almost get a kill and died and then lux complains she cant help becayse shes taking too much dmg wfdym bro youre full hp
@@VieneLea oof, that hits close to my fragile heart... (as a gold/plat otp that game puts in the smurf queue at times for some god forsaken reason to lower my 60-70%wr
7:31 Thank you for bringing that up to my intention. I always felt like I played well when I invade the enemy jungle and die there after a successful gank, but I was confused by the chat which often asked for reports. Glad to know that I am actually climbing well with this tactic
Around a year ago I unsubbed from this channel because the quality of the tips and videos was going downhill and honestly wasn't worth it. Just watched the last three videos and I'm pretty pleased that you guys' are doing great videos again, GJ.
Really appreciate the simple yet practical tip of googling the Enemy Champion. many "pro tips" require much more knowledge than any beginner could have.
So, I'm an ADC main. I know that most people go Long Sword now to get to the mythic faster, but nobody ever told me that the item is actually better in the early game in most games. Also, yeah, I see a lot of supports trying to roam at really bad timings. Because I am also bad, I typically stay and try to catch what farm I can safely, only for the enemy bot to run at me, ignore the wave entirely, and chase me back to my tower, typically killing me in the process.
The problem is not the laning phase for me. It's mostly about the mid and late game. How do I deal with a team, thats not grouping when they should? Junglers not taking objectives? Really fed hyper carries? When should I splitpush? When should I defend the base?
As a jungle main, when i smurf i always take turret plates with my teammates because i dont trust them especially when i know that enemy jungle is coming or any other lane is mia. Sometimes i just back in a bush near turret. But i’d rather not let them die for no reason than get them tilted for not being there. Besides low elo is so unpredictable that sometimes you’ll see a mordekaiser randomly tp bot at 5 minutes or enemy jungler anticipating and invade rather than taking their camps, so when you come to check the spawn timers you find a 20 cs kayn at 8 minutes just chilling in a bush near gromp waiting for you. Idk, its nice to point out that there are a lot of things to do besides taking turret plates but from experience sometimes its the best play especially in terms of mental control (xd true believer that minimizing opportunities for your team to tilt at you is game winning)
I love how all of these tips are like 10 tips in one and based off expectations versus realization in low elo. For example, in top lane Morde losing that lane had nothing to do with him not losing teleport because he had no concept of wave management in the first place. The assumption that he could have teleported back and held a freeze consequently ending the lane for Hector is predicated on the fact that you assume this Morde knows how to manage a wave and freeze it for multiple waves; however, based on the first couple of minutes he clearly doesn't. Additionally, he had a chance to freeze the wave without the teleport and instead choose not to hold the freeze. Similar story in mid lane. Though I actually agree with the tip about taking advantage of cooldown windows, you follow up a great tip with an example of hector "getting easily zoned by the Vlad" when in reality by the time Hector was able to rotate to Herald the Graves was already dead and enemy top laner is there while Garen is chilling in tri bush. Even if Hector had Tibbers and Ignite, he was going to get "Zoned" by the fact that its 3v1 and the enemy Trynadmere is level 8 with ulti still available. I don't know each individual players score, but overall the enemy team has 8 kills and Hector has 1 kill so I am 100% confident in saying that he isn't going to 1v3 the enemy team. For the jungle tip, there are so many caveats to this tip that you neglect to mention. For starters you show Hector getting punished for counter jungling instead of assisting with plates because his team has extremely poor vision and he has no idea where the enemy jungler is. This was a terrible play and I appreciate you showing it, but you at no point make a mention of why it was a bad play. Sure it results in hector dying and giving a shutdown (although giving the shutdown to the support isn't that bad, would have been a lot worse if that gold had gone to Yi), but why was the play bad. For starters, he finishes the play with no mana and half life. But more importantly, there is zero vision on the map. Not only does he have no idea where the jungler and bot lane are, but mid lane is also MIA. He could be walking into 4 people in that jungle. Then to top it off he sees the enemy drop herald and instead of running, he still decides to go after Gromp. Lastly, for ADCs. You say it is a mistake to take Doran's Blade instead of other options, and maybe it is. But your rational for why it is a mistake in this example is because the Jhin sits there and repeatedly eats Sivir Qs. The poor play of repeatedly eating poke is the thing that needs to be fixed. Sure in the long run having a long sword is more beneficial to getting your items quicker, but this Jhin is just eating Sivir Boomerang like its an all you can eat buffet. He would have chugged through those potions and still been in the same predicament he was in anyways. The additional potions would have as useful as putting a bandaid on a severed limb. It's stopping some of the bleeding, but dude is still missing his fucking arm. The Jhin could have started the game with a finished GaleForce advantage and dude still would been behind because of the way he is playing the game.
Hey you guys actually showed low elo rng players killing Hector for making a "good" decision. For once. That's a nice change of pace, you all usually just pretend like that doesn't happen. Seriously, it makes your advice look more trustworthy if you're willing to admit it won't always work even for you. Also, I hate potion start. Way too much of a money sink that relies on coming out of early game better off for it. You can just get a doran's shield and get much better value over time on most champs, and it won't go away after the first few minutes of the game.
Specifically talking about ADC here, cuz I think they're the only ones who go longsword+3 pots really. Dshield falls off really quickly and doesn't help with extended fights, just with poke or all ins - potions deal with poke as well - and it doesn't give any offensive stats. 10 AD is almost 20% more damage per auto early game
@@douwemusic Know what else falls off really fast and is done mostly to help with poke? Boots pots start. Except with the shield start at least you actually keep some stats.
@@GigaLigma falls off? When has MS as a stat ever fallen off in League 🤣 that's 300g into the best stat in the game. Besides, the only champ I ever see doing boots start is Jhin (and Predator users). 3 potions means you can lose almost all your hp in a trade and still be fine. That's kinda massive
I have a subscription to skill capped and I may just be missing it, but what do you do when your teammates are spamming ff@15? I feel that tilts me more than anything is when my team surrenders a winnable game.
I don't main adc, but I think that especially for jhin, buying doran's blade first is a huge mistake, but you don't have to buy a long sword, because jhin's base damage is probably the biggest from adcs (without counting draven), but the problem with him is his range. He gets stomped by adcs like cait, but he can utilise this problem with higher movement speed
Would it be possible to provide a link to this video on the skillcapped platform? I want to watch it there instead of here, but this is where I find it, because of the youtube algorithm :)
Like for this video it would be: www.skill-capped.com/lol/browse3/course/ymhvfhtsbs/2gc88hs5rc But that took me a while to find, would be nice to find the video in the description by default :)
Can we talk about Hector Graves @ 7:44. Graves (Hector) allows his bot lane to take plate gold but then dies to enemy Morg giving her nearly 1K in shutdown gold. How was that efficient? Did I miss something??
Long Sword start is nice but you should consider looking at the enemy runes before you decide whether to start it. If the enemies are running Dark Harvest or even Hail of Blades you could be dying a lot due to their aggressive runes. Not just that but the new patch gives even more value to Triumph so a DH and Triumph user will probably just snowball against a squishier opponent.
@@douwemusic Dark Harvest triggers faster when you have less maximum health. If you can prevent it from being triggered for a long time, then you can invalidate their keystone. Doran's Blade can therefore allow you to snowball against such opponents.
Can you do something like this but for support?? like a video showing only when you should punish depending on items and lane/wave states, but for bot lane those are rare imo
YEAH ! That works but only if rest of the team know how to play and there is no troll. If you have darius top 0/12 you can go roam with support and only fed more. And a lot of examples when I play my best and 1 or 2 trolls lost the game.
I had a game like that were the 0/11 yone and 2/9 fizz were complaining our botlane with like 3 deaths fed the enemies lol. Like jesus I died twice and adc once and we actually have like 5 or 6 kills. But obviously its our fault they keep dying in their lane when were not even there.
Ahhh smurf queue. Just had a game where there was an enemy Shaco with a 68% wr over 60 games. Good player. My Bard was a 70% wr bard over 50 games. Also good player, but ADC didn't use heal when he wanted her to so he trolled the rest of the game. Fun times.
I HATE SMURF QUE AAAAA both my plat 3-2 accounts are in there getting turbo trolled ugh so unfun - mains is master, smurfed some off roles. really really unfun ngl
Is no one gonna talk about how hard he trolled there on his nasus with the Nunu gank? He moved very poorly and missed 1-2 auto attack opportunities, flashes away from Morde at 100 hp while his q just came back from cooldown and Morde had everything on cooldown. That right there was a guaranteed kill for him, but he decided to flash away and grief his nunu…
dblade is better now since every healing rune was nerfed and ravenous was removed. SO u go dbalde for the omnivamp it gives . 3 pots is only good when u have heavy poke and u need pots to suatain in lane
Both Nasus and Annie are considered easy low elo champs that require basically no further skill than smashing your head onto your keyboard (no hâte here, I actually enjoy playing Nasus top). He’s a challenger player that is smurfing in low elo, so him playing “brain dead” champs is kind of a joke about how bad his mechanics are.
If nami don't shove the wave cait can't crash and deny enemy bot gold end exp. If they back and you don't have time to crash it's okey, but in that case nami could help deny the wave. In this situation is win-win because they kill kayle but imo you should almost always crash when you are able to and setup freeze when you back to lane, to deny even more
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"instead of wasting time hitting the tower, hector efficiently handed morgana a bunch of gold" bro stop flaming hector my god 💀
Poor hector
my man needs a break
That was hilarious. :D
The thing is if i dont hit the turret in lower elo then there is a chance that we might not get it because in low elo (bronze) no one is pushing the lane. So maybe your laner wont hit the turret rest of the game your hits could matter when you think about it.
7:20 nice pro tip, will be sure to use it!
this tip made me like the video instantly
I think the cooldown tip should be repeated for low elo support. Never punishing a missed hook, ezreal e forward, etc and just giving the enemy bot the time needed to get the ability again
Repeat it for ADCs as well. The amount of times I go in to punish cds my ADC stands behind the wave waiting to last hit. If my ADC doesn't know, well, it's dangerous for me to soak aa's and then I int, and it's no one's fault but mine for going in without an ADC... right? Or is it the ADC's fault for prioritizing something else? Nope. You int it's always your fault and you'll get reported no matter what the reason.
"Concept applies to all roles."
for real
i rcently had a support lux thar just stood back after i dodge morg q and jhin w, go in, dodge another morg q, almost get a kill and died
and then lux complains she cant help becayse shes taking too much dmg wfdym bro youre full hp
Not really. Im low Silver and always punish CDs, if they are heavy engage abilities with 8+ seconds. Im lulu main so i can just burst em in exchange
@@ocskopf yeah my bad you represent every low elo support
As a non-smurf low elo player that description of smurf queue made me really glad it exists
Come join Smurf q. Every jungler is literally bronze, boosted, or god's gift to this world.
Trust. It is miserable. Not what it sounds. Mixes meh players around gold - diamond with actual high mmr smurfs.
@@DamianSzajnowski You don't understand. I'm glad that they don't pollute my games.
@@VieneLea oof, that hits close to my fragile heart... (as a gold/plat otp that game puts in the smurf queue at times for some god forsaken reason to lower my 60-70%wr
@@VieneLea i literally played against 3 smurfs in a row today
7:31 Thank you for bringing that up to my intention. I always felt like I played well when I invade the enemy jungle and die there after a successful gank, but I was confused by the chat which often asked for reports. Glad to know that I am actually climbing well with this tactic
To assume your adc is not going to die under tower when roaming as a support is not how it works down here in low elo.
Around a year ago I unsubbed from this channel because the quality of the tips and videos was going downhill and honestly wasn't worth it. Just watched the last three videos and I'm pretty pleased that you guys' are doing great videos again, GJ.
Really appreciate the simple yet practical tip of googling the Enemy Champion. many "pro tips" require much more knowledge than any beginner could have.
7:38 commentary....brilliant.
Will try the same in my games !
So, I'm an ADC main. I know that most people go Long Sword now to get to the mythic faster, but nobody ever told me that the item is actually better in the early game in most games.
Also, yeah, I see a lot of supports trying to roam at really bad timings. Because I am also bad, I typically stay and try to catch what farm I can safely, only for the enemy bot to run at me, ignore the wave entirely, and chase me back to my tower, typically killing me in the process.
The problem is not the laning phase for me. It's mostly about the mid and late game. How do I deal with a team, thats not grouping when they should? Junglers not taking objectives? Really fed hyper carries? When should I splitpush? When should I defend the base?
As a jungle main, when i smurf i always take turret plates with my teammates because i dont trust them especially when i know that enemy jungle is coming or any other lane is mia. Sometimes i just back in a bush near turret. But i’d rather not let them die for no reason than get them tilted for not being there. Besides low elo is so unpredictable that sometimes you’ll see a mordekaiser randomly tp bot at 5 minutes or enemy jungler anticipating and invade rather than taking their camps, so when you come to check the spawn timers you find a 20 cs kayn at 8 minutes just chilling in a bush near gromp waiting for you. Idk, its nice to point out that there are a lot of things to do besides taking turret plates but from experience sometimes its the best play especially in terms of mental control (xd true believer that minimizing opportunities for your team to tilt at you is game winning)
I love how all of these tips are like 10 tips in one and based off expectations versus realization in low elo. For example, in top lane Morde losing that lane had nothing to do with him not losing teleport because he had no concept of wave management in the first place. The assumption that he could have teleported back and held a freeze consequently ending the lane for Hector is predicated on the fact that you assume this Morde knows how to manage a wave and freeze it for multiple waves; however, based on the first couple of minutes he clearly doesn't. Additionally, he had a chance to freeze the wave without the teleport and instead choose not to hold the freeze.
Similar story in mid lane. Though I actually agree with the tip about taking advantage of cooldown windows, you follow up a great tip with an example of hector "getting easily zoned by the Vlad" when in reality by the time Hector was able to rotate to Herald the Graves was already dead and enemy top laner is there while Garen is chilling in tri bush. Even if Hector had Tibbers and Ignite, he was going to get "Zoned" by the fact that its 3v1 and the enemy Trynadmere is level 8 with ulti still available. I don't know each individual players score, but overall the enemy team has 8 kills and Hector has 1 kill so I am 100% confident in saying that he isn't going to 1v3 the enemy team.
For the jungle tip, there are so many caveats to this tip that you neglect to mention. For starters you show Hector getting punished for counter jungling instead of assisting with plates because his team has extremely poor vision and he has no idea where the enemy jungler is. This was a terrible play and I appreciate you showing it, but you at no point make a mention of why it was a bad play. Sure it results in hector dying and giving a shutdown (although giving the shutdown to the support isn't that bad, would have been a lot worse if that gold had gone to Yi), but why was the play bad. For starters, he finishes the play with no mana and half life. But more importantly, there is zero vision on the map. Not only does he have no idea where the jungler and bot lane are, but mid lane is also MIA. He could be walking into 4 people in that jungle. Then to top it off he sees the enemy drop herald and instead of running, he still decides to go after Gromp.
Lastly, for ADCs. You say it is a mistake to take Doran's Blade instead of other options, and maybe it is. But your rational for why it is a mistake in this example is because the Jhin sits there and repeatedly eats Sivir Qs. The poor play of repeatedly eating poke is the thing that needs to be fixed. Sure in the long run having a long sword is more beneficial to getting your items quicker, but this Jhin is just eating Sivir Boomerang like its an all you can eat buffet. He would have chugged through those potions and still been in the same predicament he was in anyways. The additional potions would have as useful as putting a bandaid on a severed limb. It's stopping some of the bleeding, but dude is still missing his fucking arm. The Jhin could have started the game with a finished GaleForce advantage and dude still would been behind because of the way he is playing the game.
Hey you guys actually showed low elo rng players killing Hector for making a "good" decision. For once. That's a nice change of pace, you all usually just pretend like that doesn't happen. Seriously, it makes your advice look more trustworthy if you're willing to admit it won't always work even for you.
Also, I hate potion start. Way too much of a money sink that relies on coming out of early game better off for it. You can just get a doran's shield and get much better value over time on most champs, and it won't go away after the first few minutes of the game.
Specifically talking about ADC here, cuz I think they're the only ones who go longsword+3 pots really.
Dshield falls off really quickly and doesn't help with extended fights, just with poke or all ins - potions deal with poke as well - and it doesn't give any offensive stats. 10 AD is almost 20% more damage per auto early game
@@douwemusic Know what else falls off really fast and is done mostly to help with poke? Boots pots start. Except with the shield start at least you actually keep some stats.
@@GigaLigma falls off? When has MS as a stat ever fallen off in League 🤣 that's 300g into the best stat in the game. Besides, the only champ I ever see doing boots start is Jhin (and Predator users).
3 potions means you can lose almost all your hp in a trade and still be fine. That's kinda massive
I have a subscription to skill capped and I may just be missing it, but what do you do when your teammates are spamming ff@15? I feel that tilts me more than anything is when my team surrenders a winnable game.
vote for no and keep playing. if they ff they ff, nothing you can do about it.
Play with a Duo. Preferably a jungler. You both vote no, and then hard carry
I would do this as support, the problem is that the adc there often doesn't recall but tries for plate, gets caught and dies
ok the one with morgana it was a good one
I don't main adc, but I think that especially for jhin, buying doran's blade first is a huge mistake, but you don't have to buy a long sword, because jhin's base damage is probably the biggest from adcs (without counting draven), but the problem with him is his range. He gets stomped by adcs like cait, but he can utilise this problem with higher movement speed
Would it be possible to provide a link to this video on the skillcapped platform? I want to watch it there instead of here, but this is where I find it, because of the youtube algorithm :)
Like for this video it would be: www.skill-capped.com/lol/browse3/course/ymhvfhtsbs/2gc88hs5rc
But that took me a while to find, would be nice to find the video in the description by default :)
Can we talk about Hector Graves @ 7:44. Graves (Hector) allows his bot lane to take plate gold but then dies to enemy Morg giving her nearly 1K in shutdown gold. How was that efficient? Did I miss something??
Its shutdown gold reset given to morgana so its a good death LMAOO
sarcasm
Yes, you missed the joke. *WOOOSH*
they are just making fun of the hector
Making fun but also you saw them plonk a herald in there so it was a good play just a "low elo player" moment.
Is D blade relevant in other roles then adc ir support? (Obviously not jg)
Long Sword start is nice but you should consider looking at the enemy runes before you decide whether to start it. If the enemies are running Dark Harvest or even Hail of Blades you could be dying a lot due to their aggressive runes. Not just that but the new patch gives even more value to Triumph so a DH and Triumph user will probably just snowball against a squishier opponent.
then you maybe buy shield or boots
never blade
Okay but how would a different starting item improve that situation
@@douwemusic Dark Harvest triggers faster when you have less maximum health. If you can prevent it from being triggered for a long time, then you can invalidate their keystone. Doran's Blade can therefore allow you to snowball against such opponents.
@@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw I think saying the +80 hp allows you to snowball Vs dark harvest is stretching it... by a mile...
LMAO didn't expect them to be fully serious when delivering the joke of him dying to morgana.
Can you do something like this but for support??
like a video showing only when you should punish depending on items and lane/wave states, but for bot lane
those are rare imo
1:45 he flashed into the morde Q. could have easily killed him there and win the lane minute 3
If I ever auto fill jungle, I just need to die to the enemy support
1:45 "burning his flash to get away with his life"
what if he just flashed sideways and used auto q? Or even the same without flash?
yeah morde already used all of his abilities too
YEAH ! That works but only if rest of the team know how to play and there is no troll. If you have darius top 0/12 you can go roam with support and only fed more.
And a lot of examples when I play my best and 1 or 2 trolls lost the game.
I had a game like that were the 0/11 yone and 2/9 fizz were complaining our botlane with like 3 deaths fed the enemies lol. Like jesus I died twice and adc once and we actually have like 5 or 6 kills. But obviously its our fault they keep dying in their lane when were not even there.
Imagine if there where voice coms in soloq. You could just ask/tell your adc what to do. Instead of trying to predict the mind of a bronze
i would LOVE to see a video about cull.... bausffs stands by it, but fogged for example says its terrible.
I like how enemy jungler punishes nasus for staying but his ally doesn't come to break the freeze
Ahhh smurf queue. Just had a game where there was an enemy Shaco with a 68% wr over 60 games. Good player. My Bard was a 70% wr bard over 50 games. Also good player, but ADC didn't use heal when he wanted her to so he trolled the rest of the game. Fun times.
Bruh im.crying.. my Varus has a 60% winrate oflver 100 gaames... but I'm still only gold..
@@lafleurstudios play more games. If your win rate stays the same you will keep climbing steadily.
Pro tips
Play on bronze elo to crush newbies and unsuspecting guys
What was the joke supposed to be? 4:09
I just watched the old version of this video and wondered why I saw the same video in my recommended…
I HATE SMURF QUE AAAAA both my plat 3-2 accounts are in there getting turbo trolled ugh so unfun - mains is master, smurfed some off roles. really really unfun ngl
No duo.. thats pretty standard
hiktor got a twitch channel ?
Why not start cull if an adc wants early gold?
You could have just spectated games and narrate over them, but instead you had your challenger guy go into low elo and add to the smurf problem
lol
Is no one gonna talk about how hard he trolled there on his nasus with the Nunu gank? He moved very poorly and missed 1-2 auto attack opportunities, flashes away from Morde at 100 hp while his q just came back from cooldown and Morde had everything on cooldown. That right there was a guaranteed kill for him, but he decided to flash away and grief his nunu…
Can you start putting timestamps. Thanks
dblade is better now since every healing rune was nerfed and ravenous was removed. SO u go dbalde for the omnivamp it gives . 3 pots is only good when u have heavy poke and u need pots to suatain in lane
Yes I love healing 1.5-2 hp per auto X 200 instead of 450 hp from 3 pots
I really don't know what joke you left on the table, about Hector switching from Morde to Annie. Am I a dumb-dumb?
Both Nasus and Annie are considered easy low elo champs that require basically no further skill than smashing your head onto your keyboard (no hâte here, I actually enjoy playing Nasus top). He’s a challenger player that is smurfing in low elo, so him playing “brain dead” champs is kind of a joke about how bad his mechanics are.
Nasus with Sheen is full build. Good job Riot.
"Our skill-capped challenger player " what a way to spin a title lol
Okay, not to be a dumbass but.... is this Ez's VA???
If nami don't shove the wave cait can't crash and deny enemy bot gold end exp. If they back and you don't have time to crash it's okey, but in that case nami could help deny the wave. In this situation is win-win because they kill kayle but imo you should almost always crash when you are able to and setup freeze when you back to lane, to deny even more
Ah yes, Hector's torment continues.
2:00 if he q mord they win that xD
7:48 Lmfao
Hey skill capped...I canceled my subscription and i diddnt got my money back what can i do ?
Contact customer service, I did it and it worked.
@@elmeromogollon its insta or after 30 days?
@@vdashy1882 Is not instantaneous I had to contact them to tell them about the refund, and it was within the 30 day period.
@@elmeromogollon and how i contact them ?
@@vdashy1882 in their website.
So the adc tip was, buy a different starting item...
McBaze part lmao
Pls do one for wild rift
Love you hector
I WAS THE NUNU IN THAT GAME OH MY GOOOD
Last one assumes ur adc isnt a complete inting idiot which is like 90% of low elo
Hector sounds like a basement dweller
what is that intro...
Hector must be sick of your bullshit tasks from every week.
7:38 LMFAO
Once again Skill Capped just proving to me, that I'm a diamond player, who's in Silver unjustified. Born into the wrong Elo!!! xD I'm so stuck, but please don't send your step brothers.
Second
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Every video you complain about smurfing I down vote