S2E89. Christianity while gay.
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2022
- what’s good, good people? i wanted to talk about God! and my guy Victor was the right person to chop it up with. let me know your thoughts in the comments.
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“I am to you what you experience first” WHAT A WORDDDDDDDD
I mean ... WOW
Love it!
This speaks volumes
That was a word!
This felt like more of a conversation about spirituality than Christianity.
Whew this episode was something powerful. I can’t even put into words much else but thank you for this space!!
This Video Was Inspiring Honestly.. I've Rejected God And Christianity Since High School Because I Felt Like There Was No Place For Me With Religion. Growing Up In A Haitian Household, I've Experience So Many Trauma With The Church. Hearing Them Talk About Gay People Always Put A Stab In My Heart. My Mom Having A Dream That I Was Talking To Men Online And Having Me Read Bible Scriptures. Trying To Summon The "Demon" Out Of Me. So My View On Religion Has Been Tainted. Which Is Why I'm Agnostic. Idk If I'm Willing To Even Open Those Wounds And Try To Have A Relationship With God. We'll See What The Future Holds But This Video Was Very Inspiring.
That is relatable. This has creating the bridge Queer people found themselves longing for, Christianity was weaponized to shame us into our caves of self hate
@@chuma8384 Yess Indeed. It Truly Sucks That We All Have To Endure That. I'm Glad More Queer People Are Reclaiming Their Power In Their Faith.
Just a note, you don't need religion to have a relationship with God.
Your "relationship" with God is more important than your "sexuality" in life. His grace is sufficient and will allow you to grow with him in humility and stability.
My prime example is Paul. He was a Christian who prosecuted the church. However, he referred to the following verse...
In Galatians 2:20, it states "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Overall, Paul’s sin was imputed to Christ, and Christ’s righteousness was imputed to Paul. You having a "relationship," regardless of your sexuality, will keep you as steadfast and presentable to the world for the purpose of bringing people to salvation according to John 3:16 🙏
@@doctorwilliams787 That's Your Opinion Sugar Plums... My "Relationship" With A Diety Doesn't Mean Anything To Me Because I Don't Believe In It. My Sexuality Means A Lot To Me Because It's A Part Of Me. It's My Humane Right As An Individual To Live In My Truth. Thanks For Your Bible Scriptures... Paul Can Choose His Christ. That's His Choice. David's Choice Is To Relinquish Any Trauma Or Ties To Religion And To Live His Best Life. No Worries Over Here ❤️ Have A Nice Day 🙂
Thank you so much for allowing me to share on this level. I really appreciate you friend! 🤗🖤✨
I thank God for you. I'm so glad that you've accepted and are operating under the mantle that he has placed over your life. This conversation has blessed me tremendously & has literally change the trajectory of my lifes path. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Whew you spoke 👏🏽👏🏽💯
You do no wrong friend 🥹 this was incredible!!!
@@Theegalenjwilliams I love you beyond. 🖤✨
GORLSSSS…. BABIEESSS. This gave me life. THIS WAS POWERFUL. Thank you both for this conversation and this space. I’ve been searching for a conversation/space like this one and to hear about ya’lls experience was everything. As a queer black man who has struggled with faith, Christianity and my sexuality, this gives me hope that I can find a good middle ground between my love for God and love of self. Thank you so much.
This was such a necessary conversation. So much confirmation for ME, PERSONALLY. I'm waiting for the day the church catches up to us. I don't think it's a coincidence that so many queer people are in tune to the Spirit.
Ya know I’m proud of you! This was very enlightening… as a Christian I really had to clear my mind and not feel so guilty. And clear my mind about the stuff I’ve been influenced with
This young man is truly gifted … touched by God … I’m so happy for him!
This video blessed me so much and an example of why i subscribed to your page Obie. It’s refreshing to see talk about God and gayness and it’s not about rejecting God or Christianity but rather how you can make it work because you can. I’m living proof that you can as well. I used to pray that I would be delivered from being gay, going to the alter & embarrassing myself but it was in acknowledging that i was gay and not resisting it, I got the peace i was looking for and I never turned back. It brought me closer to God. I wish more gay people would get the revelation that God loves them AS THEY ARE & not run away like so many have. It takes courage to stay the course but it’s so worth it. God is good and He’s faithful too.
Victor is an amazing person! I wish everyone could know him!
Thank you Harold! 🤗🤗🤗
This dude Victor is on 🔥🔥🔥🔥 WOW!!Very well articulated and speaks knowledge to wisdom to Power!! He better AFFIRM!!🙌🏾🙌🏾Continued blessings🙏🏽
I'm not religious, I don't believe in the Bible, I consider myself spiritually aware and connected. With that said, I enjoyed EVERYTHING that man had to say and the connection he extended to me. Thank you.
What is this man's name!? What are his social medias!? The ministry on the inside of him is VERY profound and POWERFUL! There are many lives he needs to touch, there are many in our community that NEED what God has put inside of him! My, My, My, My!!!
Bruh...this is so golden. So many vital, needed points shared in this conversation! Ya'll literally just ministered to a brotha 🙏🏿 Please do a part two✌🏿 #keepcreatingspace
This is a great video , we definitely need more conversation of being Gay and Christian .
WHEW THIS!!!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤 let’s talk about “bullying you out of your spirituality” that in the beginning of the video alone is powerful! So much of this conversation is amazing
Truly a tear jerker! Im working on it. My fullest will carry me to bigger things and opportunities. I have suppression to work through but I’ll get there. Thank you
Honorable mention to the One and only true living God. Praises be to the most High. Gratefulness, Amen.
Whew! This is a word! Thank you! After finishing this, I realise that this conversation is for every spiritual person (not just for Christians), and I got so much out of this as a sam-gender-loving Muslim man. Thank you again for such an insightful and fulfilling conversation, Obio.
You’ve been watching Dr Cleo
My cup runneth over!! The eloquence and conviction in both of you guys voice blessed me. In an transition right now this was right on time! 💗
Im so glad this is an episode!! Thank you! Edit: I resonate with Obio on the point about having nothing to do with God for a few years because you don't know how to reconcile your sexuality with your faith and then feeling so off spiritually because of it. I have been in that space for the past few years and I'm still trying tk figure my way out of it. And I know there are sooo many black men who experience this.
Why do you feel off spiritually? It’s because you know God does not support homosexuality. You cannot serve 2 masters. Pick wisely. And, if you pick God, there is a way to live, and it doesn’t involve creating a god of your own like this guy has.
@@KevinSmith-vg9yu You came wayyyyyyy over here for what? These comments don't bring anybody closer to God. Bye!
Thank you so much for this! This hit home! So many good nuggets.
This was good + needed. Mann you had me on my toes with this one.
I needed this message, nay, these messages, today. Thank you.
This was definitely powerful, wow . Thank you for what you’re doing .
This was excellent guys! I needed it, and I appreciate you. 🥰
This conversation was amazing! Bravo to you both!
This conversation was really refreshing. This message was definitely needed right now!
The amount of confirmation I received from this 😩😮💨🙏🏾🙌🏾❤❤… Thank you so much for this
The way this has motivated & freed me.
I am commenting even before I finish watching this cos this brother is speaking life into me right off the bat. This interview is divine!
God this is sooooooo amazing one of the most powerful I’ve watched in your series! Thank you so much for this conversation my journey is my journey so I’m living an learning and hoping to find a tribe that I can walk with so I don’t feel like I’m having to this all by myself. Living and learning but thanks for this ministry!!
Favorite episode thus far. Thank you!
I love this conversation. You all are verbalizing many thoughts that I have had for years. Thank you for letting me know that I am not alone.
That was so beautiful. Shout out to the guest speaker and their ( to me ) Affirmation Prayer. Y'all were Awesome
Wow, that was amazing!! Truly a word, one of your best episodes yet. As a young, black, queer, Christian, in the midst of existentialism!! This means so much to me, thank you! ❤️
God richly bless both of you for ministering to the listeners who just happened to run across this forum.
Truly moved and touched. ♥️☺️👍🏽
This was incredibly moving!!!
Thank you for this conversation!
Wow! I’m going thru it and this is exactly what I needed to hear this morning.
Thank you
I enjoyed watching this,amazing conversation!❤️
Beautiful conversation! Thank you to both of you! Be blessed
This was amazing & what I needed to hear in this season of my life! Nobody can tell me yall both are not anointed! Im so glad I found your channel! 😇💙
Best episode yet Obio... BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO! This nourished my soul. I still am coming to grips with the fact that I've deprived myself for years... of friendships, relationships, true happiness etc. Due to my oh so confusing & damaging wrestle between my Faith & Queerness. I've realized that God has purposefully placed me here and I've decided to figure out why.... AND I BELIEVE THAT THROUGH MY SEARCH ALL THE THINGS SHALL BE ADDED UNTO ME.
I would love to have this conversation in a space that holds up the beauty of Black church AS A BLACK SAME GENDER LOVING MAN WHO IS A PASTOR and holds sanctuary and safe space for LGBTQ+ people and our families. I have had so many beautiful conversations with people like this awesome Victor, who have been walked away from the church experience and he has been bold and brave in his faith and God gave IMPACT CHURCH! This is so awesome. I think that the church is a powerful place to be, but THE RIGHT CHURCH! I think that we have to continue the unpacking. The same DAVID that he speaks of is the DAVID WHO LOVED JONATHAN. @Obio #LEGGO
Absolutely wonderful episode! Victor is the truth. I could listened at minimum another hour! A lot of his commentary spoke volumes to me and my life and I THANK YOU! Thanks to you as well O for having V to join and speak to our souls! BRAVO. Everything was right on time!
My spirt needed these! I love this
This was such a powerful, heart-felt, amazing video. I’m speechless.
I love this !!! This particular video inspires me to tell my story about my relationship with Christ while being a queer man. Thank you Obio. Keep doing the work.
Thank you Obio and Victor for this! Definitely working this out in my own life. Honestly, it was so refreshing to hear both of you explain the importance of God in your life and that there needs to be a marriage between your faith and your queerness. I definitely need more people like that in my circle.
This spoke to me. I literally was about to give up on faith and myself. I am glad I clicked on this.
Damn, the entire episode had me snappin the whole time! Talk yo shit!! 💯
Wow Victor, your gift is so impacting. Thank you.
Hey man I just wanted to thank you for this video especially. I’ve always struggled with my self worth and acceptance from a religious stand point. I recently lost my father last month so I feel that not only am I being watched by God,but my father is now looking down on me from heaven and he can now see the life his son has been living in secret. I have been struggling with that. This video and all of your other videos have really been giving me the tools I need to rebuild my self worth and restore my confidence as a black gay Christian man. I just had to let you know to keep up the GREAT WORK! It’s so important! I wish I had this kind of representation when I was growing up. So with that being said keep going and I will as well.🙏🏾
Great episode! Brilliant. Inspirational. Thank you! I am catholic and I once confessed it a long time ago, and the priest said it's ok, as long as you don't ACT on it. The older I got and the more aware I became, I realized that that was so wrong. You've got to love ALL of yourself, and being gay and christian and catholic is all simply part of who I am. Thank you for talking about this topic! Your guest was truly an inspiration!
I have yet to comment on any youtuber content, however this is the day I say hallelujah and thank you God for Obio and this channel. This was an excellent presentation from your guest. "Choose to live, love and dance".
That was really really good… thank you for creating this type of space because there are people who need to hear the truth and not just fairytales that either have been passed down, made up by someone close to them that lacks knowledge or have created virtual world ideas that makes them comfortable. Everyone need to know that they are fearfully and wonderfully made and when we don’t acknowledge his greatness and power we then can’t say we believe GOD can do anything and he does what he wants because he is sovereign. Thank you thank you thank you!
Bruh this is amazing!!!! It took me 15years of living celibate, doing "all the things" to avoid my queerness! Thank God for the right ppl around me to love me to a place of total acceptance, peace, love, joy, and the freedom to dance!!!! Please continue these videos, you are bringing healing to the community & helping queer ppl find their way to God in a true authentic relationship with HIM, not the church, not ppl, but with HIM!!!!!!
I absolutely love how you’ve phrased your comment… NOT with church, NOT with ppl BUT with HIM… that is the key!! Not only for gay people who have been attacked constantly but for all who follow the Lord and seek a true relationship with Him through Christ Jesus
@@danravenel8752 Yes I never learned true relationship with God because i was so pressed to please ppl. And I did all "the things" not out of sincerely to God, but so people would accept my identity as a "christian",... now idc what folk accept because I know Christ accepted me!
@@goodvibezz9216 well said!! I believe in living holy before God. I believe there should be no excuses.. and I believe lgbtq people who are sincere about their relationship really love The Lord. I was beat up, ridiculed, starting at a very early age before I even realized what gay was. This came from people I trusted. When God put His hand on me and began to use me.. people made weird comments and were confused as to why God would because I was gay. It caused me to be confused as well, and that would lead to anguish and despair. The hateful sermons, the laughing from the congregants and the sayings about Adam and Steve etc etc. I refuse to go to a gay church.. to each his own but I wasn’t running.. the body of Christ is one. That’s what I had to learn.. who and what the body of Christ is and who my relationship
Is with. It is with Him.. not people. If the Holy Ghost moves in me.. it is Him, not people, therefore my focus should be on Him.. not people… and I keep it moving
this episode was soooooooo touching from beginning to end. wow is all I can really say
Obio and VICTOR!!!!.That was an amazing, insightful, impactful, prophetic, enlightened, Afro futuristic, radically spiritual revolutionarily human, motivational, fortifying, conversation. All the necessary things to transcend all the things.
Wow that is such a great topic, one of the most interesting shows!
This was great dialogue. Definitely a topic that needs to be discussed.
Thank you both for pouring.
I was fortunate enough to have a close encounter with God as a youngster. I never felt a sense of rejection for being gay, and knew in my core that God created me to be this way, for whatever reason. I did at one point leave Christianity for a while to explore New Age, but Jesus pulled me out of that experience and returned me into his fold. I struggled finding an affirming church for a while, but now I am blessed to be a part of a church that is affirming. Thanks for sharing this episode with us!
Very insightful, our spiritual relationship with God is important just as any other heterosexual person. Obio thanks for this space man
This is so powerful!!!! I can’t even put it into words…
Not victor making my eyes water a FEW times. He is everything and this was such an amazing dialogue. Thank you Obio for continuing to create space!
I attend New Birth Baptist Church Cathedral of Faith, in Miami, FL; and I have seen and heard MANY times where anything feminine and NOT MASCULINE like for men has been condemned to HELL and pushed out. We have had trans members NICE AS HELL and good people, disappear. Just recently, about earlier this year, one of the youths was singing with the adult choir and the director, in rehearsal embarrassed that boy by telling him how boys don't dye their hair etc. and none of the other adults said anything.
I haven't been back sense. Church shouldn't feel like work but I was so drained I needed a LONG break,
This is GOOOOOD. Inspired ❤️
I love this conversation because the black church does have trauma infused with homophobia preaching the word and it is tough to seek knowledge all while you are being bashed for who you are. Shout out to his friend teaching her child about black gay /queer joy and understanding the importance of people being who they are. Great to watch keep it up! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This was powerful. Thanks for sharing
wow this was deep and beautiful. I wish him well
First comment! ✊🏾
Well - since I'm here, let me start the trend: THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE SHOW, Obio! 👑 #KeepGoing 💪🏾
(PS: Preacccchhhh, Victor Jackson!!!)
Y'all don't understand how many times I have been here like am addicted to this dialogue. God I feel so at peace listening to this.❤
I love this episode so much! 🙌🏿
THIS EPISODE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE!!!!! This is the 1! Thank you Brother ❤️
Psalm 139 13-14 "“for it was You who created my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I will praise You because I have been fearfully and wonderfully made”. Also my favorite scripture and daily meditation.
Well said! As a minister, this is my biggest struggle...
omg loved this!!!
Can’t wait to watch this in its entirety!
Amazing conversation. The section about context - thou shalt not kill, except… interesting. Also, “I am who you experience” - another interesting concept.
Wow...love it! I love the fact that it was about having a spiritual practice and being gay. I also liked that you deviated from having "straight presenting" male guests. It's important that all black male representation are on the show.
OMGGGGGGG 😩😩😩😩😩😩 This was SOOOO GOOD!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Love this conversation!
Oh my God... I needed this...
wow look at you Obio! you are doing your thing …we went to elementary school together and you just popped up on my UA-cam wow 🤩
“I am to you what you experience first.” Shando!! 🙌🏾
Hiya🙌🏾 That was a whole Word❗️❗️❗️
@@TristanDFord Hiya 😂
One of your best videos !!!!!!! 🙏🏿amen!!!!
I still believe your faith or relationship with God, Jesus, Buddha, Allah is a personal journey. Like anything in life you can't allow others to define your relationship you gain and grow from it whatever you see fit.
I agree. Every since I separated from church my connection to God has been much stronger. I have clarity.
16:25 is not only a word, it is monumental, it is a lifestyle and it is a movement all in one. Man this video ate the Black Christian Gworls Up ‼️‼️
This was everything to me… thank you
This video was a blessing.
Wow these r the kind of conversations I wanna have around religion … and to say that when gay people talk about their relationship with God is always thru the lens of what they grew up hearing
Needed this!!!
These conversations are needed and appreciated.. xoxo #keepcreatedspace
LOL, pass the offering tray. This was very good.
ACTIVATE YOUR FAITH IN EVERY AREA OF YOUR LIFE! #BOOOOOOOOOOOOM (that's great Victor)!
Man im about to go to church in the morning because of this episode
Worship in Spirit & in Truth. The truth dwells in reality, so it is necessary to not hide from any aspect of ourselves or our reality. Suppression is a breeding ground for dysfunction. Be honest with self & God. He said seek Him & His righteousness & ALL these things will be added to you. Whatever needs to be changed, if anything needs to be changed, God is the One Who brings about the change. We’re valuable. He paid the ultimate price for us, so why not love all of you? He does. I found that when I intentionally put aside the lense of people’s opinions & culture & JUST FOCUSED ON GOD’S WORD, the experience was completely different. When I started reading for myself & developing a prayer life, I found out God ain’t judging me like folks say. Not only that, but little by little my self worth grew, & my life began to change for the better. It takes courage to consistently face reality with acceptance, gratitude, & love, but we’re not in this by ourselves. God is real. If you seek Him you will find Him. It’s the safest space I’ve ever known. Now I’m beginning to understand what the old folks meant when they say you look at your hands & ya hands look new. Lol 🙏🏾❤️
This was soooo good...the holy spirit was present...IMPACT is the best church in ATL. periodt.
A great conversation. I grew up in the church. Specifically, a southern Baptist church. It took me a long time to get to where the gentleman on the right is. By the way, who is he?
COME THROUGH VICTOR! Love you