Salman Rushdie on censorship in America today
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2024
- Acclaimed author Salman Rushdie says the attack on free expression now comes from both the left and the right.
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"How would we ever challenge ourselves if we were not challenged?" The quote which should be repeated over and over and over today.
Its exactly an eloquent quote, but its still true
I see it more like the chellenges are the disinformation form totalitarian regime that doesn't allow any opinion inside. We have freedom to express any opinion. But there should be responsibility in the form of respect or disrespect of the source of information. Respected journals always have right to reject a garbage source
"Offense industry" - great way of putting it.
It’s so nice to listen to a intelligent person sharing their wisdom rather than having falsehoods shouted at us by a person of limited intelligence and little regard for the truth and the society we live in
Yeah…like watching cspan
@@scdrescher1 People watch cspan?
It's wonderful to hear a humble man talk simply about his legacy.
Humble? Lmao. He is arrogant.
@@keksi6844 Is that what you feel whenever you encounter someone who speaks articulately and with a sufficient vocabulary to not speak like a child on a cel phone?
He's a great writer and I support him fully, but humility was never one of his virtues
the “orthodoxy” amongst young people in particular is alarmingly real
"Orthodoxy" is the best way to put it and is alarmingly real
@@gonkdroid8279fundamentalism in any form begets tragedy 🤌🖤
You’re commenting on a 60 Minutes post, a show that will never air anything that seriously challenges the status quo. You geriatrics believe in the orthodoxy free market drivel to such an extent, that you’ve managed to be totally asleep at the switch as the people you consistently elect have dismantled the American Dream.
Sold his soul to the devil right off the bat.
Young people are just sick of the excessive racism, homophobia, misogyny, and sexism that pervades the past. Enough already.
I’m a liberal to the core and I can’t agree more that censorship has gotten absolutely ridiculous!!!
The way the Republican Party and Fox News envision the US and world is completely unfair, irrational and unsustainable.
I study media and culture, and I admire Rushdie a great deal, but he is wrong on this point. There is no “censorship” happening against conservatives. I can post data that actually shows the opposite - digital platforms elevate and amplify rightwiing viewpoints. The necessity of moderation, fact-checking and accountability is not equal to “censorship.”
EDIT: LOL this comment sure made people mad. YT won't allow me to directly post links to studies. Ironically this is an example of what I'm talking about. SM actively suppresses fact-checking.
@@artlesscalamity348are you kidding? The oppressive unthinking climate of the woke zealots who have captured HR departments and academic bureaucracies causes extreme self censorship.
@@artlesscalamity348”fact checking.” Are you not aware of how Twitter, FB and colluded with the US government to tamper down view points not in line with Biden, Fauci, et Al?
Let the conservatives say their lies. Then let us refute them. Problem of course is the $$$$Media. Like 60 minutes giving the sensational time for clicks BUT censorship is never the answer.
The first Rushdie book I ever read was Haroun and the Sea of Stories and it was absolutely delightful. People should read Rushdie because he's a high quality writer and these days that is an all too rare thing.
I loved that book.
There are people who are fervently against books that THEY HAVEN'T READ.
@ninamo indeed, many, arguably a majority.
*Especially* books they haven't read. They're afraid that if they read them, they'd find out those books are not that bad, and everyone around them would turn against them.
He is attacker knew why he was against his book
I've been studying the issue since I was 15 and yeah, 99/100 times that's the simple truth. What I'm laughing over these days is #MomsForAnythingButLiberty fanatics reading graphic passages at local legislature and school board mtgs. And I still doubt HIGHLY they've read the entire book, which ain't gonna get them to think about the context or acceptance of it.
Me being in Dearborn, Michigan, I couldn't agree more with the statement. Lots of parents protested Dearborn Public Schools to have pro-LGBT/Trans books claiming they had issue with 1 or 2 sentences that were "inappropriate" for kids to read, but yet the lessons these books teach are important.
His spectacle eyepatch is so badass lol
Agreed
Straight up
Give him a Cable Monocle and he will look ready to fight Apocalypse.
Islamic prophecy says AntiChrist will have one eye.
@@whathell6twell, he IS fighting the apocalypse right about.....now.
A genius among men
I love him just like I love Gerald Vizenor and Don DeLillo ❤
Not a genius. His writing is quite crappy haha. But he shouldnt have been stabbed
@@fizzybubblech2128 Full of big words and ideas, I know. Stick to the ones with the gold foil on the spine.
It’s hurts more that he was attacked in a country that supposedly is very pro-freedom of speech.
*Muhammed is a warriors not a peace maker, they followed his footstep*
Man, that guy will not give up. Good on him
"To be a writer was entirely to do with the love of the power of the imagination..."
I would say to be a writer is the love and pursuit of the truth. I don’t like people knocking writing as fairy tales… reading books is sacred to me, one of the few sacred things in this world.
One of the greatest loves of all. The greatest looove of aaalll…
A true hero of free speech
There’s nothing heroic about this slug
@@sanali565 speak for yourself
Let’s see how much of a free speech hero he is when his kids are being bullied in school, verbally only.
Man who risks his life for freedom of expression
@@tyleryoast8299 he risks his life for millions of dollars
Glad he's okay 🎉
He lost his eye. He is not ok.
@@bngr_bngrhe's got his eye out for a replacement 😉
*Muhammed is a warriors not a peace maker, they followed his footstep*
Sadly, most young people feel that the right to never be offended is more important than the right to free speech. Scary times.
And they were taught that by older people.
Great so maybe we should stop making "from the river to the sea" about genocide and make it about what it truly is about. People getting to live in the homes they were born in
*Muhammed is a warriors not a peace maker, they followed his footstep*
It is much more sad that you dont understand what free speech means whatsoever. How are you this ignorant?
@@mediocreplays8368 explain it then, oh wise one.
"Offense has become an aspect of identity politics" So true
Fahrenheit 451 covered much of this.
Yet it's message is ignored by the MSM, ironically.
Fahrenheit 451 was about how people don't want to read. Maybe y'all should read basic Constitutional Law, where all sorts of forms of violent speech are deemed impermissible.
@@liammcooper
Is that why they were burning books?
@liammcooper no, it was not.
@@liammcooper Obviously, you have not read the book, because that is most definitely not what it's about.
He's completely right
Not
@@sanali565 put down the drugs
"How would we ever challenge ourselves if we weren't challenged?" Well, that's part of the problem, nobody wants to be challenged. Might make one (gasp!) uncomfortable.
Anderson Cooper’s facial tic after Rushdie condemned American censorship was interesting.
First thing that struck me.....yup
Because Rushdie is wrong on this point. People cannot function without 1) a baseline of norms and values and 2) consequences for dangerous behavior. This is fundamental sociology. Letting everyone do whatever they want because “free speech” is a ridiculous idea.
EDIT: there are way too many people who grew up on social media and view the world as a valueless vacuum devoid of accountability. It's very interesting to study but also very depressing.
@@artlesscalamity348 Free speech is a ridiculous idea? Smells like Communism, bub.
@@artlesscalamity348 'Dangerous behaviour' in the context of speech is threatening someone, advocating for harm to be done to them, or calling on others to inflict such harm. That's already criminalised, and rightly so. Offensive speech is NOT 'dangerous', because taking offence can be subjective, and then also being offended is not a harm that requires criminalising. Anyone can get offended by anything. I find stupidity and irrationality - yours are prime examples - offensive. That is NOT a good enough reason to have you prevented from demonstrating your stupidity and incoherence in public. The baseline norms and values should be ones of listening, engaging and debating views different from yours, attempting to reconcile with them or to refute them, and doing all that civilly. Not banning words, or books, or someone's right to speak out, and most certainly not campaigning for people to lose jobs because you felt offended by something they said. SAID! Not did.
Because he's an appointed gatekeeper from the House of Vanderbilt.
Hang in there SR! Keep getting better.
I remember right before the book came out and all the controversy and death threats. The first thing my husband and I did was to buy two copies the day it came out. Have to show support whenever anyone tries to ban a book, don’t like don’t read it, but you can’t take it away from everyone else.
Rushdie books are gems.
More like cheap crap , feel sorry for the trees turned to his rubbish books, what a waste
@@sanali565Not as wasteful as the Quran
The full segment on 60 minutes was spectacular
I love how Anderson Cooper sits there with the "not me" look!!! He would never censor anything - yeah right....
When did Cooper censor something?
@@Ward413"would"
@Ward413 are u new??? Try disagreeing with gender affirming care, Joe Biden, illegal immigration, etc…. Anderson and his ill will pounce on you. Are u new??? They are the cause of this crap snd then wonder why there is DEI backlash.. get a damn clue
This is only way I can watch 60min Either golf,or basketball or football ALWAYS goes into overtime and no 60 minutes
I thank Larry David every single day for having introduced Salman Rushdie to me.
Was he on "Curb...?"
@@michaeloftaoism There was an entire season of "Curb your Enthusiasm" revolving around Larry wanting to do a play called "Fatwa", which was based on Salman Rushdie. In one of that season's episodes, Rushdie himself made a guest appearance to give him advice because Larry was also being threatened with a fatwa, too.
Christopher Hitchens was also a great admirer of Salman Rushdie. - j q t -
@@quill444not just admirer but close friend. The day Salman was attacked I had to wonder how Christopher would have reacted.
Salman spent a while hiding out at The Hitchden in DC. But we are all forgetting about Sal Bass from Seinfeld, the guy that Kramer is convinced is Salman Rushdie.
Good to see you Sir.
A religion that fears criticism is a weak one indeed.
💯
Mr Rushdie is right about censorship
Both sides are equally doing it
And it does more harm than good
That should not have been your takeaway and dismissive AS SIN
What side you think Iran is on?
He has slight eye discomfort requiring a pirates patch. Walks around saying "aye" a lot.
Wrong. The right bans pornography in books while the l left promotes grooming in schools.
I’m a liberal to the core and I can’t agree more that censorship has gotten absolutely ridiculous!!!
Amazing interview clip. He nails the whole fallacy behind censorship. I want to see him speak at every censorship conference or event until groups like #MomsForAnythingBUTLiberty are disbanded and forgotten.
The problem is it's not as simple as "this art offends me" People have a political agenda and they are making examples with this literature in schools in order to scare others who are politically unengaged.
@@daintycaked- are you referring to politicians and judges that are basing their policies and decisions on a two thousand yr old book written by men explaining how their god has deemed everyone should live??
@@daintycaked Nicely put! Fear and the combination of it with religion works too damn well.
He’s wrong though. It’s not “censorship” to moderate hate-speech or disinformation that directly threatens public or private harm. He’s not looking at the problem in the context of powerful digital tools that have reshaped the world. Such tools absolutely require guardrails and accountability.
@@artlesscalamity348”He’s wrong, though! It’s not censorship to [decide which speech is verboten and then ban and/or punish it].”
It’s censorship, even when you agree with it. Hate speech is protected by the first amendment - INCITEMENT is not. And who gets to decide what is and isn’t hate speech? As the ACLU Skokie case showed us, the same laws that can ban a National Socialist March can also ban a Jewish gathering. And as the recent campus kerfuffles over Israel v Palestine has shown us, both sides view political rhetoric and sloganeering of the other side as genocidal.
Free speech is free speech, ESPECIALLY when you don’t like it.
Glad to see Mr. Rushdie recovering well.
Absolute legend. I love Rushdie. What a hero
The Enchantress of Florence is one of my favorite reads EVER and he has so many other greats
Journalism is not a crime ✊
Freedom of speech and press now ✊
It's good to see Salman Rushdie still alive after the attack and criticizing censorship.
Chatatauqua is NOT on Lake Erie as stated by Anderson Cooper. It is on its self named lake
no one cares but you bro
@@neoneherefrom5836facts don’t care about your feelings
@@eBay.Baalwear oh and these facts are so fun bro plz tell me more about the misnamed towns by the Great Lakes I got my popcorn ready 🍿
Where’s the full interview?
Well said!!
Salman Rushdie appeared to have gotten sharper with age!
@3:44 “How would we challenge ourselves if we were not challenged?”
This is a lesson that I’ve slowly come to learn as I’ve aged. The best ideas are the ones that stand on their own and don’t need a boot nor a weapon to be maintained. Our ideas become better by exposing ourselves to reality and that includes other people’s ideas. We grow by being humble and comfortable with learning, which requires accepting that we may be wrong and that’s all part of the learning process, and thus good. I think that our ideas should be exposed to the light and put to the test repeatedly to see if they are valid, sound, and congruent with current data. The moment we hold to a belief simply because we like it and then demand others do too, with no evidence as to why they should change their minds, we are no longer learning nor teaching; instead, we have become fragile dogmatists, masquerading our favorite conjectures as proven theories, all so that we can avoid the uncomfortable truth.
It took huge courage to write The Satanic Verses and Salmon Rushdie is a hero of free speech and a brilliant writer. It's horrific that one mentally unwell person almost succeeded in ending this great man's life. Like everyone else, I'm horrified by the attack and in awe of Mr. Rushdie's courage and fortitude. I am permanently opposed to censorship. We need to remember that mental illnesses -and psychopathy are international problems. Mental illness does not discriminate -neither can we. I wish you peace and prosperity, and your best life, Sir. 🎖
There are millions of mentally unwell ppl hiding behind religious tenets.
The world is not responsible for your emotions. Handling emotions is part of being an adult. The guy who attacked Rushdie is nothing more than a common criminal.
It’s crazy - a USC valedictorian speech was canceled
A living icon, defending free speech and defiant against the evil rise of extreme islam.
Funny how "Free speech" people like you would never allow Muslim to speak freely.
As Sam Harris has pointed out, Imagine if South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker had to live in hiding after the release of their satirical musical 'The Book of Mormon'.
No, you can't.
Mormons looking at bottom line. $$$$
Great Person...
Phenomenal work Anderson
Most religions are about peace, until they’re not. Unfortunately, anything can be turned into twisted extremism, and then used for nefarious agendas. It’s the human factor.
If you are going to hell for “not believing”, it is hardly about peace. It is about extracting submission. Does not merit 20 seconds of your consideration.
@Zenithx3 well he did say "most"
Glad to see Mr Rushdie is more or less okay and I will NEVER FORGIVE Cat Stevens.
Damn, you really dated yourself with that lol
Moonshadow already falls over Steven’s legacy.
He don’t want or need your forgiveness
@@Randy-jz9ox not all of us think that making it to retirement is a bad thing. Let’s see if you do, and how you feel about it. Good luck.
@@1fattyfatman Wild World is also problematic. But in hindsight, it made it clear that he had very traditional views which would mesh well with fundamentalist Islam.
“ It only takes one rotten apple”… it is so sad that we no longer listen to one another, hear many opinions without becoming offended. Wee no longer have adult conversations. It is difficult to be friendly. I called a female a lady and she got upset and yelled at me that she was no push over wimp. Asan older female, I had used the term as a compliment meaning someone having manners, intelligence ,grace and charm. I was wrong and used the wrong term because to the young black woman I thought I was complimenting, it meant something different. I have asked some other black young women and they are as confused as I am. Sadly the young female left and didn’t explain why being referred to as a lady upset her. I thought she was lovely in conversation until this misunderstanding but even holding conversations these days is difficult.
I think the secret to holding a conversation is to listen first, always with an abundance of patience and open mindedness. Consider and then respond with civility.
That sounds confusing. When I was younger and felt more militant feminist I didn't like being called a lady by men. These days I find it easier to let small stuff go and sometimes tell myself I've caught a person in a bad moment - as I have prickly moments too.
It's all gone insane in the last 10 years. I am (visibly) LGBTI and I have been literally called a fascist for not being "LGBTIAQ++ enough". The young people in this scene have completely gone off the rails. Suppose it's easy to shout a little louder every day on Twitter.
There are men who struggle for a day and they are good. There are men who struggle for a year and they are better. There are men who struggle many years, and they are better still. But there are those who struggle all their lives: These are the indispensable ones.
Bertolt Brecht
If even 20% of the people of this world could be like Sir Salman Rushdie, the Earth would be a much better place to live.
It is scary this is the stuff I'd have to fight against in the decades to come, if I live to see them.
1:15 - It only takes one, and there is more than one
Very nice to see Mr Rushdie so vibrant after his encounter with evil.
Rushdi should file a case against Ayatollah Irani in International Court of Justice...
Good to see you my man. Justice to Ayesha !! Long live free speech.
I found wonderful your book, the satanic verses.
Thanks a lot, it was a great pleasure to red it, with my muslin background and my knowledge of Islam history, it was really enjoyable for me.
Thanks, still alive and in good health.
Anderson Cooper was completely perplexed by the idea of Free Speech.
You can see it in his face when Russia starting saying it, and his question was "is the value in hearing from people that offend us?"
I figured a 4th grader knew that. Does Anderson think we should only hear from voices that don't offend us?
I've always believed that the whole struggle between conservatives and progressives is between tradition and reason. Humans don't have the mental capacity to constantly rationalize our every action, so we form these traditions, or mental shortcuts, to help make our lives better. That's why a real conservative should be well-versed in history, in what worked and what didn't work. Progressives on the other hand, are willing to try new things because it's rational, even though it has never been done before. That's why progressives should be good at reasoning and communication, because whatever agenda they have should make sense to most other people.
Now we have a bunch of conservatives that don't know history and a bunch of progressives that don't care to reason. Everyone just tries to one up each other on social media. It's quite pathetic tbh.
The narrative has changed since the 90s
He is an intellectual, it's sad ignorance is all around.
Advocating censorship equals saying that people can’t think for themselves. And if that is your position, you have revealed yourself to be dictatorial in mindset. And if you look at the practice of religions, you will not have to go far to discover dictatorial tendencies as well. To invite that into your country in the name of tolerance and diversity is suicidal.
You do not actually believe what you just said (or at the very least the probability is very very low). You too believe that there is actually a certain amount of necessary censorship.
@@AlexandruVodaamazing mind reading device you’ve got there.
It's about actual mind-control via mechanical means - SigInt, now add in radicalized, traumatized people...
Salman is an incredibly brave and strong person to face the world after what has happened to him. He only deserves respect as far as I can see.
This man is a treasure. Keep him safe!
Our main issue is the attack on the innocence of our children. They end up as intellectuals or emotional wrecks. We must create a system in which our children can guide us - because we have badly lost the way.
I hate that Salman Rushie was attacked and hurt after all these years. What more do we need to know ( but there is much more ) about the toxic culture and relgion of the Iranian Mullahs than this vindictive, evil, energy they put out into the world. I have to admit to be overjoyed that Rushdie is processing what happened to him and turning it to his favor and standing up against the regime and powers that threatened him. Salman Rushdie is a 21st century world hero.
Christianity in the USA is right there with them.
@@DystopianUtopia8
You're nuts.
@@DystopianUtopia8
If you think that you're crazy.
Rushdie is iconic.
As a Hindu from India, who doesn't really buy the books, I'm going to say that I've bought Victory City and I'll buy this. This isn't about Hindu and Muslim, this is about dangerous idiots in both religions.
No, as an American, I'm pretty certain this is about Islam. I don't think you folks have that one wrong. I don't think we can all be wrong to distrust this ideology. The Chinese, Hindus, Westerners, Russians, all the problems it's causing in Africa... we can't all be wrong about this.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat I like your condescending tone.
@@vasudevsarvam6912 lol, that was not condescending. Trust me kiddo, if I'm being condescending to you, you'll know 😉
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat just replace Islam with "All Religion" and you are onto something.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat "Trust me kiddo, ...." Just an fyi, demonstration went well.
Lol Andersoon Cooper was part of the vanguard
Yeah, it's so ironic hearing him of all people talk about censorship.
The evidence over the past couple of years has displayed how little the general populace of Americans cares about the values we once held dear.
God bless Salman Rushdie. Same thing happened to Naghib Mahfouz. He kept right on trucking too.
I remember him for his secret identity, Sal Bass
Is he talking about meinkampf as well?
Great book, heard him read some parts, brave man.
finally someone out there started speaking about this nonsense censorship!
Years ago I was at a planning lecture , where the speaker stated that you could be leaning left and those left ideas were the ones that were nimbism. Not in my back yard ideology. If attitudes were a circle the extreme left and the extreme right connect at the top where they come together. the same way the middle connects at the bottom of the circle. This is the issue right now. The extremes are coming together.
What do you think of War Against Panthers Mr. Rushdie?
Next time interviewed he’ll have one arm and leg missing too. Monty Pythonesque.
Just a flesh wound.
"shelf of books". I love his books ! The Moors Last Sigh, Midnight's Children and the rest. Couldn't get thru "Satanic Verses". Didn't read more than 50 pages.
Richard - try listening to the audiobook. I’ve listened to it 4 times now. I absolutely adore TSV. It’s so rich.
@@elisawinter4520 I forgot to mention "The Enchantress of Florence" another Rushdie masterpiece. Don't know what TSV is and wouldn't know how to get hooked up on audiobooks.
TSV is an acronym for The Satanic Verses. @@richardthelionheart5594
2:46 ❤💪🏾💪🏾💯
Salman Rushdie is always a great panelist on Real Time with Bill Maher! Fiercely intelligent, always making excellent points!
Legend.
*_People who say "Cencorship has gotten absolutely ridiculous!!!" are the enemy. THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY CENSORSHIP AT ALL! PERIOD!_*
So how would you feel about a book that praised the holocaust? I'm just saying.
@@AbdulBasit-in7hh it would be evil but Im not sure about banning it
I have a hard time having a good impression of Islam or believing that it is a religion of peace.
Not after they have been hunting down Rushdie for decades.
What you think the Africans think when the Christians enslaved them and oppressed them?
any damn organized religion can beget the same results of tragedy
@michaeloftaoism Very true! That is why all of them need to be kept in check.
@@GKP999Hear, hear
the religion of peace they said...
every religion has it’s extremists.
@@claireconover you can't best islam in that regard
@@sdeeyoktar8442 These Amish extremists... Tilling their fields, building their barns... Unnerving.
@@claireconoverwhat other religion hijacked planes then brought down two officers buildings?
The Amish are not without sin look up how they treat each other @@jamiearmstrong3487
Censorship by shutting the book. What a novel concept.
Okay.
There was a Disney Star Wars advert before this video. Man, Disney Star Wars feels like woke fan fiction.
So we'll put. I wish more people listened to this rather than follow outrage artists occupying the media, both traditional and social.
This used to be common knowledge among educated people in the West. Anderson Cooper looks bewildered.
What a man!
Read books. Read frequently. Write yourself (write notes for others too!) notes in your favorite books. Author books. Read a lot of interesting books. Change the world.
I 100% agree with him. Censorship has gotten out of control…on both sides…more on the far left tho. As a democrat, I’m sick of everyone being offended by everything…and it’s a big reason why trump is doing better in the polls.
I’m sick of everyone being offended by everything…and it’s a big reason why trump is doing better in the polls.
Ironic seeing Mr. Rushdie tell Anderson Cooper about censorship.
Not you too Salman Rushdie! Both sides??? Really???
Aah the religion of peace and all the beauty that it produces.