It wasn't until this video that I realized that they didn't work together on their proofs. I had no idea they each had their own separate proofs. Which makes it even more amazing. Well done, ladies!
@bunjijumper5345 OP didn't even mention their race. These high school students came up with 2 new PT proofs, independently of each other. This is a feat for anyone and would be news regardless.
There are many, however, the students, parents and principals want grades so it must be graded, how to give a grade for ingenuity? Yes, these two got As, but let’s talk about the ones who didn’t get this far. How much did they do? Should they get Cs or even Bs?
@@wayneriley7367 Not to mention within today's educational Spectrum of trying to teach mathematics within the public system, comes with a myriad of problems impossible to discuss within the public form. I am so happy for those girls, I wish them all the best and who knows maybe they might decide to major in mathematics.
@@martinsolis7409 agreed, they didn’t decide to be mathematicians, the end they state their choices. In a world where building things is prized engineering is much better. PhD in mathematics is lonely and writing papers and teaching.
17 years. 100% graduation. 100% college acceptance. I've never heard stats like that. Incredible kids. Incredible staff. The kind of story that keeps hope alive
@@mongoosevsgt That's because private schools cherry pick their students and then kick out anyone who is failing. Every private school in my area also has 100% graduation and college acceptances.
Private schools have high expectations and standards, while the government’s department of education has lowered public school expectations and standards, over time. When you have high expectations of your students you’re showing that you *believe in them*
Modest, humble young women who were not afraid to take on a challenge which was supposed to be impossible. I love how they were taught in this school to aim high and expect to attain a result. We need more schools geared toward teaching this way and giving the encouragement needed to help students learn they can achieve more than they thought possible.
As a PhD statistician with an undergraduate degree in mathematics, I can say that the mindset that they used to come up with these proofs is exactly the mindset that makes a good mathematician. It's not about being a genius, it's about being patient, persistent, and creative. That said, these skills will also help them in the fields of pharmacology and environmental engineering that they are choosing to pursue. There is no reason for them to go into math if that isn't where their main passion is, I am just saying that they definitely could do it if they wanted to.
Of course it’s 100% private schools can get away with this because they expel anyone who doesn’t follow the rules. Public schools do not have that option.
@@mlhawkins8342it's an educated guess...She said 100% grad and college acceptance 17 years straight. I want you to actually think about that and life in general. So nobody got into an accident, pregnant, had family issues, nothing... Everyone enrolled made it? Not one drop out? And all proficient in every class? Statistically it's impossible for that length of time. Name any other entity that has a 100% success rate when dealing with HS age kids for 17 years...
For that you need a very select group of students are actually smart motivated goal oriented. The current trend of forcing good students to be in the same classroom as disruptive hooligans is VERY harmful to the education of the good students
Wow! As a black, 71year old woman, Math major, I am so proud of these young ladies. Thank you for this story. It is so needed. Watched the video on May 16, 2024.
Can you.imagine all those in public school,for all students. Wake up America your cures are in these children. My grandson loves the tech stuff. These are gifts,lets not overlook them.
I felt like a *PROUD FATHER* watching this!! 👏🏿 I love the standards & rules the school set for them. It carries a precedence of normalcy. The fact that they went to universities & pursued other passions shows how Truly _GIFTED_ their minds are 💡
You were blessed to be launched by a school with caring teachers and administrators who showed extraordinary leadership. This school and all it represents deeply touches my heart!
Great Work. However I do have reservations. 1. Students today use math software to solve everything. 2. The first proof relies on right triangles inside of right triangles. This is circular logic 3. The way the first is constructed (like Archimedes'' proof for the area of a circle) really requires a concept of limits (Fundamental Theorem of Calculus). 4. For the second proof, the only lengths know are the diameter and the radius. The latter doesn't help.
@@jaquesstrappe7664 Given how far their proofs have gone so far in terms of review by the mathematical society, my bet is you're missing something. #2) 4:43 Right triangle inside of right triangles does NOT imply circular logic. By inspection, you'll notice that the terms successively diminIsh towards zero. This is an INFINITE SERIES. If you're familiar with the Sine and Cosine functions, they are defined by the Taylor series expansion of an infinite series of diminishing terms. I can see where this is headed, and it's not circular logic #3) Yes, the concept of limits inherently applies. One has to determine if the infinite series converges towards some limiting value., or not. #4) 5:28 Sorry, but your statement is FALSE. If you look again, it not only lists the diameter (C) and radius (C/2), but by inscribing a right triangle inside the circle, it also defines the other 2 sides of the right triangle. (a, b)
There was already a "solution." Since about 300bc. Now if they've proven it with trig that would be interesting.(solving something and proving it are two different things) Though they are not the first to do that either. It's still an accomplishment for highschool girls.
It doesn’t work with some triangles so how is it a proof, almost a proof would not of counted for anyone not african American, hence why you don’t know who Jason zimba is who actually solved the proof in 2009 but he is white so who cares about him
Albert Einstein: "“It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer.” The discipline to work on a problem for as long as it takes to solve it is the best gift a school can give to its students. These two students worked on the problem for several months, which is a testimony to their mental perseverance. Most people, even genius level people, will eventually put down a really hard problem after struggling to solve it for awhile. Congrats on cracking a problem thought to be unsolvable! Very impressive accomplishment...
I’ve heard that kind of wisdom before, particularly with mathematics. Sure, it helps to be smart. But it also takes the ability to stick to the problem and NOT GIVE UP! I bet it also helps that there appears to be little focus on boys, makeup, phones, etc.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On!' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
@@vegasmokeThis! It doesn’t matter that she and the two students are black. What matters is that she is a *motivating* teacher who pushes her students, and that they *took on the challenge* and achieved a wonderful *accomplishment!*
@@ckh937610yes black teachers were over qualified during segregation cause jobs were segregated too. Blacks were just not allowed to be in certain high paying professions like engineering.
I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but in this case using the term 'sweet' is denigrating, patronizing, condescending, sexist, rascist, disrespecting, misogynistic, and otherwise unsuitable. Anybody thinks they're just trying to be 'sweet' ? Really ? Would you call Einstein sweet ? He too always refuted to be a genius.
This made me cry because I was told I would never go to college. I proved my counselor wrong and earned two BAs and one MA. Some people can really ruin others. I am happy to see the support system these students have.
So sorry to hear that! It's so true, I was told the same thing as a young black boy. Now here I am a graduate in STEM working as a software engineer. You have to be persistent, and have goals. Don't listen to the naysayers
I don't know what is more impressive, the proofs, the humility of the students, or the 100% graduation and college placement. The entire national public education system needs to figure how to apply this approach to the education of all of our nation's children. Truly remarkable!
Dont let your kids be taught by those people. History has taught us wyte people have extreme bias. Their children have it also. Its a sickness of hate. Dont let those people teach your kids
This story literally left me breathless and with tears. And it was not just these young women and their proof. It’s the school, its philosophy, its standards, and the staff. These young people can change the world-in fact, we should expect that they will.
It has been done before, none of what they did was new or groundbreaking in any way. That being said it is still impressive that they got to it on their own, it is a serious math problem, and most students would not get to that on their own like these young ladies!! :)
@@bustaknutt7729 Haha nice one :D Literally read up on PT if you haven't had it in school. This is not some kind of fringe science, this is one of the oldest and most worked-on theorems in human history. Do you really think that after 2500 years two teen girls from the same school would get separate groundbreaking discoveries XD
@@CharlieTheAstronaut are you familiar with the term "there's more than one way to skin a cat", Charlie... well these two girls have found another two ways to skin the cat..
Paying parents expect those results from expensive private schools. When all parents get the same from public education, including great teachers paid great comp, America will have accomplished something much greater than war, selling out its youth and future for donor cash and getting rich while American taxpayers pay for it.
Restore the study of The Philosophy of Education ( as in RS Peters) to all teacher training and curriculum designers and educational policy makers. Remove unit standardized lessons, and restore teacher autonomy.
I agree...although if i were a student there, i might be a little irritated that one of our problems was to solve a proof that took professional mathematicians 2,000 years to solve.
And you two have something that hardly anyone in the world could do. Never sell yourself short of your mind, has nothing to do with your age, sex, or race. YOU ARE GENIUS, YOU ARE SPECIAL.
They know! You’re not saying anything they haven’t heard. Theybare not selling themselves short and don’t need a motivational speech about how great they are. They are choosing to remain humble because they are taught better and because they are smart. Not because they don’t realize it yet.😮
4:08 Props to Ne'Kiya's mother for supplying her daughter access to an excellent education and encouraging her although she has no idea what exactly she's doing. It's honestly so sweet.
Absolutely. It can be intimidating to be a mom who cares for a child that is far more intelligent than herself. And you can tell it hasn't hindered her with leading her daughter at all. God gave her to the right woman.
This _can't_ be a coincidence. If these two young ladies are not geniuses, then it implies that how they were taught mathematics is the difference maker here.
But why aren't they geniuses ? Because it had never been done, so it took two math Black geniuses to solve the math problem. So, what is your real point or problem ? Hummmmm
@@richardroundtree2022 The OP is not saying they aren't geniuses; rather, if they don't feel that and that they are just doing math to this high degree, then their math teacher must be really doing a great job. They are adding value to their understanding of this math but feel as though what they understand is normal for students at St. Mary's. It is indeed a compliment if there ever was one.
These two woman are absolutely amazing. How dare any individual make any degrading comments. These women deserve every bit of accolades for their hard work. Ladies congratulations you have the world in front of you. 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
The world tends to be fearful and jealous of those who do not fit one's standard expectation of success because IMO, many people have not yet experienced how vast and diverse the world really is. Thankfully, these young women are showing that a belief in oneself, determenation to improve and stick with a problem IS the path of successes. Thank you for the reminder, young scholars!
There are plenty of stories like this, from all over the world! Black people and Africans, inventing things that were thought to be impossible! But these stories will never be promoted! They're afraid it will break all the negative Black stereotypes they've created!
Exactly! As one of the young ladies remarked, people might think that they couldn’t accomplish such a feat- as she stated- particularly due to their age, race & gender. So to have a black, female math teacher like Michelle Blouin-Williams encouraging her students to take on such a task, it must have been an inspiration and motivation. Congratulations to her for pushing her students, and to them for creating new proofs for the theorem. 🧡
Congrats young New Orleans Louisiana ladies in a region that invented Jazz🌹🌹 You have creative people in New Orleans Louisiana. And congrats to the teachers who inspired, motivated the students , but the students had to do the work!✨🌹✨ Have a Beautiful Journey.
I was born and raised in New Orleans. Two of my aunts who were both part of the order, Sisters of the Holy Family, taught at St. Mary’s Academy for many years…one has passed on - the other sadly has dementia. They would both be unbelievably proud of these two outstanding young ladies❤️
This is so refreshing to see !!!!!! As a 48 yr old man from Louisiana, these two young ladies extremely inspired me to finish my electrical engineering degree. Inspiration comes in all form's just put your ego ,fear, and the naysayers aside.
It's simple! The school creates the RIGHT kind of environment FREE from distractions! Watch the ladies from that school rule the world. Very inspiring!
It makes me feel warm inside to know such school exits. There is no doubt in my mind more than one of these students WILL rule our country in the near future. We are in much need of change; they will be that change.
I was already blown away, but when she said " I want this to celebrated for what it is a great mathematical achievement". respect to the both of them. I hope they get full rides to the university of their choice".
I'm an old carpenter, I learned the pythagorean theorem when I was about 25. I only knew it as the "3,4,5", because I had to make a building square. I cried with admiration for these two young ladies. Yeah, I have learned a lot of math, since, when I can do it with a tape measure, so I'm not lost, but the brains in these kids are amazing. I hope y'all run the world, soon.
@@jasonjmarchi Yeah, I did mean any multiple of 3,4,5, just that's what we called it. But long since I just used a calculator for any number I wanted. But when cutting a knee brace that has to be 33 15/16, and rounding to 34 doesn't work, it's the same principle. Multiples of 3-4-5 is good framer smarts, good rule of thumb.
As someone who completed calculus and absolutely failed their math major, and had to drop out due to proofs, the difficulty of this is hard to explain to someone who's never tried one. This is a monumental achievement, and the depths of this challenge cannot fully be understood by someone non versed in mathematics. The fact that teenagers did this is mind blowing. All the kudos in the world, congrats.
In college I passed all my math courses with A's and 1-b+. I had 4 main and 2 i took as electives. For me, what I found out is they are teaching SHORTCUTS and getting to the end answer did not connect for me. I had to study the book and with some personal tutoring I was able to understand the flow and remember the formulas. My child is in elementary school and I had to check/ conference a teacher about my child's work same issue about SHORTCUTS If the answer is correct and the work is shown there shouldn't be a problem. Math is not always straightforward.
Yes, but in a Mathematics curriculum, you have to be able to compose proofs on the fly; these gals had months to figure it out - and oh, I am sure they were assisted along the way.
This is proof you can accomplish the seemingly impossible when you don't have people poisoning your mind with doubt and telling you what "can't be done."
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, let me tell u, in the Blk community, there is A LOT of that going on, from the ppl who own the media to the ones who have fallen for their agenda. You r lucky if you escape not feeling like a victim.
Truly incredible. Not because of or despite their race, age or sex; but because of their attitude, perseverance and willingness to learn and think. Bravo.
@@KJ-df9ozWhat do you mean by your response? Is there a particular connotation attached to "WE"? Obviously there is. Why not just come out and say it? I think we all as Americans should want for there to be more schools that are so focused on achieving excellence amongst their students and use such good philosophies and environment to educate bright young minds and prepare them to achieve academically and go on to become successful adults... But I think it's pretty misguided to want such opportunities only for students of one's own racial group. I couldn't imagine making any statement ever to express any desire to have such opportunities for any racial group. I'd be ashamed of myself if I ever expressed any desire for there to be any such opportunities to be available for anything other than all young Americans. In fact I can't imagine making any statement about improving educational opportunities, or anything else, and qualifying it as being specifically for my own racial group.
Adults create schools/students like this. Are you in your neighborhood school helping?All hands on deck are required. Everyone can do something. This is awesome and definitely can be replicated in many many children.
No we don’t. This idea that schools are needed is why we are all Slaves to the system. You have the ability to learn anything you want at the comfort of your own home at your own fingertips using the World Wide Web.
If I had a daughter and I lived in New Orleans, she would go to the school even if she didn’t get a scholarship I would pay this tuition only second to paying my house note. Much congratulations to these ladies. This is one of the most impressive stories I’ve heard all year, I’m gonna find a way to make charitable donations to the school every year
@@roundtwo3321Yep, I agree. Schools like this really should be the model used in public education, or at least some facets of it in my opinion. K-12 teaching positions in public schools really should be highly incentivized with great salaries and benefits, with admin that not only listens to but also stands up for its staff. We have to make teachers want to come back, and right now we're just chasing them away. I don't get it totally skippable anecdote incoming: I worked a brief stint at a garlic bread factory once. I got in an argument with a coworker there who kept saying that school teachers didn't deserve to make as much as people at the factory, because "they babysit kids and make 'em take tests a few times, then get 3 months off a year! they don't get to complain". I was stunned. I argued that teachers are raising each new generation of our society. Yeah they're teaching them facts, but schools teach so many more important lessons on things like morality, ethics, self-respect, civic duty, a sense of community, and so on. By comparison, we made frozen garlic bread. Frozen--Garlic--Bread. He still didn't get it, and then he looked at me like *I* was the idiot... I felt like... is this what the average American thinks about our schools? Make it make sense...
I just cried in awe at how amazing and humble these two young women are... I hope the future brings amazing things for these two and their school gets all the accolades!
I call BS on this. The proof the actual papers giving the proof haven't been published but a video like this had? If I told you I've cured dementia would you do a video first or demand a demonstration?
When students aren't led to believe they can't, and learn instead through experience that they actually can achieve things, then the possibilities become endless. What is amazing is the 17 year record for the school of a 100 % graduation rate along with a 100% college acceptance rate. 100% for 17 years. Wow.
What an amazing school, and what talented students.....all of them! 16 years of 100% graduation rate, and 100% college acceptance. Awesome! Congratulations!!!
@@SgtJoeSmith So why punish those who do by not offering it? Those who aren't interested are few and far between. There are people who would probably say the same things about these young ladies until they were given the tools they needed to be successful.
I love how the young ladies are so good in their explanations. They would make excellent teachers. The first girl remembered to define congruent for the audience.
What impresses me is their problem-solving ability. These two women went off and worked at the problem and kept at it. I'm a retired computer programmer and my strongest skill was trouble-shooting. I had situations where I had to dig into problems and keep digging until I found the cause and find a solution. It takes persistence, and these two have that. You can have brains but persistence is what leads to success.
The problem in most American classrooms is that kids are taught to memorize instead of how to understand and apply fundamental concepts. When you learn basic concepts and break down math problems, math is nowhere near as difficult as people think it is.
I read somewhere that it took Thomas Edison, 1,000 tries to come up with the right filament for the encandescent light bulb. Imagine if he would had gave up on his 999 tried. Persistence, is the name of the game!
Love these two young ladies. I am 72 now, came up with a theorem, was not encouraged to go into engineering or physics. Low expectations back then… nurse secretary teacher all I dreamed about was designing buildings Buck M. Fuller Frank Loyd Wright my guidance counselor helped me get accepted into RISDI … my parents ended that dream . Feel blessed that your creativity and problem solving is a gift , make the world a better place .
Some would say “those were the times” and some would say “that lack of support is shameful.” I would guess that you taking the time to pass that lesson on much later in life is probably just another example of you making this world a better place.
@signumcrucis71 For every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, obvious, and wrong. As much as humans want to categorise everything into neat (ideally binary) boxes - friend/foe, male/female, good/bad etc. - Nature is nuanced. The vast majority of developmental disorders are incompatible with life, and result in a miscarriage, whereas differences of sexual or gender development are not, because our reproductive systems are not essential for our survival (unlike, say, our cardiovascular system). So there is much more variation in human sex and gender than we are used to seeing - in every other way, humans are incredibly uniform. I’m sorry human sex and gender don’t fit into your neat binary model, but maybe it is time to expand your model. Every model of reality is a trade-off between accuracy and simplicity. The most accurate model of reality is reality itself. But hey, nuance is hard for some people. 🤷🏻♂️
@maddeusdoggeus1 I wanted to make a supportive comment to OP, but couldn’t come up with one better than this, so instead I will just second your comment. 👍🏻
@@signumcrucis71you are not well bringing things up that have nothing to do with the topic. Obviously transexuality deeply disturbs you, but you dont have to spray your issues all over the internet. You are contributing nothing. Peace.
This story made my day. It just goes to show us that when children are given an environment in which they can thrive, they will thrive. No matter what color or gender they are. And a great teacher makes a big difference in how a child learns So kudos to the school,the teachers and the students. Peace to all
Oh come on. Don't start acting as if schools do want achievement and academic success! How about all parents becoming what and who these young women's parents are---committed to their child's education. The schools can only do what they can do with who is sent to them!
They are all graceful and poised, solid inside and gentle outside. It is so nice to see young ppl being well brought up and striving to better themselves👍
One of the first things I thought seeing this on UA-cam was the space program There was a movie about 4 I believe African American women who were behind the math in the space program and one of them was considered like a math computer
Please don’t write these girls off as anomalous geniuses. It sounds like they are among the bright, hard-working students at their school, and they did the work. This is a nice demonstration of what can happen when barriers are removed and students are supported to remain curious and aim high. More of this, please.
Educated people are more likely to vote democratic. If you compare states who spend more money on education to those that spend less, the higher spenders are blue states.
All the girls and women shown here are an inspiration. Ive got to shout out the interviewe too, he did a wonderful job. He prioritised the perspectives of the interviewees, was respectful and its clear to see that he wanted them to feel comfortable. A stellar example of journalism
i can't stand interviews that show the interviewer's face in those fake questioning shots, as if that person is some intellectual giant on the topic at hand. much better to just listen to interviews like this one, rather than watch it.
This is an amazing story. The school, the two math wizards, the teachers, the attitudes and expectations. 17 years, 100% graduation and college acceptance rate. The girls come into that school and they are absolutely going to make it. There's no question. It's amazing what we can do under the right conditions.
One of the things no one seem to be talking about is the dept of mastery these students have to know and have been taught, in order to have the abilities to come up with these two different proofs. As someone who has had a lot of math in college getting through a course is much, much easier then going deep into understanding of what is it you are really doing. It is usually not until you are in upper level courses that you understand better lower level courses. There is something very special happening at this school to produce these students, these two different proofs, and the ability to come up with them. What an amazing job!!!
Math isn’t difficult if you’re taught correctly. This school clearly does that and also teaches it in the correct order: geometry BEFORE algebra. Teaching algebra first makes students math-stupid. We didn’t do that here until the 1970s. They still don’t do it in places like Norway, and this school.
As a former physics teacher, I have to say that this makes me so proud of these kids, the teachers, the admin, and the school as a whole. I'm so sad there are such nay-sayers but even more overjoyed that within such a world, this school and these girls could show us all the proof at least just as great as their multiple Pythagorean Theorem proofs, the proof that young people, especially young black women, can break barriers thought unbreakable. The highest of fives to everyone involved!! ❤❤
Agreed. I think young people are often made to feel they should 'sit small' rather than challenge the academic boundaries out there. This is to the detriment of our society's development and progress.
@@HasturBeta None of the LLM's are that smart, they have a long way to go to do things that people can do. (At least a year). I drive a Tesla its smart and drives better than a human, but still makes mistakes, mostly in navigation.
They have set an example for all people. The young, old, African Americans, women, men, and more. We are fortunate to have them as an example of intelligent, hard working, self-confident, and hopeful young people. May they continue to reach whatever future goals they may have.
Absolutely hands down unsurprised that two hard working, intelligent, driven, articulate and aware students, with proper guidance at school and support from home, could change the world. No matter color, race, sexual orientation, gender or economic status. I applaud these wonderful human beings! Way to go!
Who said anything about their color, race, or gender? If they were white men would you have made any mention of their race or gender? It’s the things you aren’t saying in what you are saying that make this so funny.
@@zachmorley158Do you have any idea of what you’re talking about? If they were white men they would have gotten instant credit for their proof without anybody doubting that they were capable of this. What’s funny is that you think that’s OK.
@@zachmorley158 they themselves said it at the end of the video if you watched it? not everyone is mentioning race out of nowhere, the girls in the video themselves said it. you're growing the divide by your failure to pay attention its weird
I've loved math all my life and now an engineer. I am tearing up. The descending triangle to infinity is so brilliant. To do such a thing in high school.
“I would actually like to be celebrated for what it is…it is a great mathematical achievement” - her humility and deep understanding beyond the reasons that tend to classify who we are is commendable.
The term genius takes away from the effort of the accomplishment. I understand that people mean it as an compliment, but there is reason that they are refusing it. They worked very hard to accomplish what they accomplished. The school also emphasizes that they believe all of their students can accomplish great things. Attributing success to genius, goes against the idea that everyone can succeed.
I’m glad that they realize that from such a young age. I’m no genius and I had to struggle five to six hours a day studying organic chemistry to earn a 97 overall. You can’t learn what you don’t consistently think about.
Or the fact that they are getting credit for what a white dude did in 2009 Jason zimba or the fact they didn’t use only trigonometry like the news claims look at the equations
I haven't cried this much from one video for as long as I can remember...beyond proud of these humble ladies, wishing both of them the best of futures!
I'm so proud of these girls. I'm shocked that they didn't go into math disciplines. The fact that they're not aspiring math mathmeticians and still accomplished this just highlights the level of excellence expected from them. Kudos to all the adults in their life holding them to high expectations.
Boy, America needs more schools like this. From elementary to High School to College. No matter what the race. This school is remarkable and so are the kids.
No it doesn't. Guarantee you voted against public education.... more than once. There is a party that is undercutting your education... while pumping public funds into private schools so they can fully moderate the attendance and the curriculum. A party that receives billions from elite colleges and their alma mater... I bet you don't see a problem with that...
SO many lessons to learn from this. 1. Discipline matters a lot to a child's overall development. 2. Good schools play a huge role in academic success. 3. Good teachers important. 4. Setting bar high is very necessary.
I was so focused on the girls, and their accomplishment, and then the environment that fostered their motivation and intelligence, that my heart dropped when they shared the stereotypes they faced. Outrageous. They are so gracious and down to earth and still at it. God bless them.
@@tobyfitzpatrick3914 Cece and Cal, Calcea's parents, are definitely in the video ... Neliska, Ne'Kiya's mom is sitting next to them by herself. Why? "Donald Jackson passed away on February 3, 2019 at the age of 40. He leaves behind his wife Neliska Jackson, his 3 children Ne'kiya, Jakhi and Demetris" He's DEAD. He was also a veteran. You can scour through hours of videos of kids every other color just living their lives, and not one random will slander them with anything ... Yet you can find cavebeast culture within minutes if the child is black, even if the video is featuring a baby. What is it with that? I guess we should all start assuming you and some random kids are or will be internationally traveling, dog defiling, child defiling Peter Scully's at some point. Because who cares about individual achievements
@bribay Apparently you don’t live in the US. In this country, we never need to ask those questions. Those three things have bearing on everything in our lives.
Astonishing that two young ladies who know each other from school EACH created separate and very different proofs. After thousands of years, and just one prior proof. Truly amazing work! What fantastic minds!
Damn this really makes me want to cry. It's refreshing to see schools that have standards and strive for the best for their students. Like they're actually LEARNING!! These 2 young women are incredibly talented. So respectful, so well spoken, dressed in the school uniform, and pushing their knowledge to no limit! The teacher and parents are also a factor in this as well. Big shoutout to them!
Impressive. Congratulations to those two hard working young women. However, it should be understood that the proof that was briefly mentioned in the video cannot be considered purely trigonometric since it uses the notion of the infinite. It could be argued that this is an analytical proof.
This is nothing short of amazement for me. I barely passed chemistry class in college with a B,(c’s were not acceptable to obtain my degree) and accepted it HAPPILY. To see these students succeed at 100% graduation, 100% college acceptance is nothing short of a miracle. The staff at this school needs to run the educational department in Washington DC.
@elainepurdyyahu9493 RE: "The staff at this school needs to run the educational department in Washington DC." No, they don't. They should stay exactly where they are, and people from other educational institutions could come and emulate and be trained in their methods. Being political bureaucrats in the DOE would be less than useless.
@@spaceman081447 yes, i thought about people would take my statement literally. I wasn’t thinking they should leave where they physically are and move to Washington DC. They can indirectly run it by allowing others to learn their concepts and be willing to implement the necessary changes. I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, there should be no compromise where the shade is grey. What is your opinion on the students who don’t fit?
@@SixOhFive my grad degree was in environmental science. We just had to pass chemistry back then. Don’t know what the criteria is now. My mother and son are both nurses. Chemistry came easy for them- I think it was a mental block with me. These young ladies at this school shows the majority of people are capable of learning what we consider very difficult.
@@elainepurdyyahu9493 What do you mean by "students who don't fit"? I believe that anyone can be taught if the teacher is willing to make the necessary effort.
Beautiful, bright, and set for greatness. What a privilege, to witness two very young women using trig to solve a proof and to derive it independently. Tears of joy here...Thank you for "finishing what" you "started". I am so proud.
Wow! I must save this video. They are doing things that haven't been done, showing their genius. Yet, they are so humble and thankful. Wow! I must learn this lesson
The fact that the school very much encourages creative thinking like that makes me optimistic for the future. Just wish they get the opportunity they should be getting.
Surprised, not shocked. A majority of the science/math/art innovations have come from people who were relatively young (20s). This story really warms my heart. Giving young people the tools and expectations to do big things and then they go and do them.
Only 3 trig proofs for Pythagoras' Theorem on 3-sided right triangles in the last 2,000 years?! If the universe ended in the 2020s, I wouldn't be surprised lol (joke).
I love Ne'kiya and Calcea's position, "forget we're black, forget we're female, and forget we're 17. We are following our passion. You go ladies!' My 10th grade math teacher encouraged me to figure out why 0! is defined as 1 in 1985. Called him up in 2008 to explain how factorials are derived from the Euler-Gamma function. Rufus Dickerson's time and influence stayed with me all those years. Great teachers and mentors and key!
This is so amazing! Like I wish they wouldn’t downplay their achievements. Yes all the girls at that school is capable and smart but these two girls just rocked the world with a 2000 year old problem and they did it separately! I was expecting to watch this video and see something that they collaborated on but their initial proof was done separately. They both have a solve individually. They’re smart as all heck!
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It wasn't until this video that I realized that they didn't work together on their proofs. I had no idea they each had their own separate proofs. Which makes it even more amazing. Well done, ladies!
Do we really have to pander because they are AA?
@bunjijumper5345 OP didn't even mention their race. These high school students came up with 2 new PT proofs, independently of each other. This is a feat for anyone and would be news regardless.
@@bunjijumper5345are you a bot? I didn't mention them being AA at all.
@@bunjijumper5345your jealousy inadequacy is gross.
@@ericar.6370People like them are so infuriating. I say we ignore them but for the time being I don’t blame anyone who publicly shames them either.
"I wasn't necessarily looking for a solve... I was looking for some ingenuity" we need more teachers who think like this
There are many, however, the students, parents and principals want grades so it must be graded, how to give a grade for ingenuity? Yes, these two got As, but let’s talk about the ones who didn’t get this far. How much did they do? Should they get Cs or even Bs?
This is why our kids should be taught by OUR PEOPLE. Wyte people have clear bias and use it. They cant get over their unnatural hate for us
@@wayneriley7367Im pretty sure this was bonus work
@@wayneriley7367 Not to mention within today's educational Spectrum of trying to teach mathematics within the public system, comes with a myriad of problems impossible to discuss within the public form. I am so happy for those girls, I wish them all the best and who knows maybe they might decide to major in mathematics.
@@martinsolis7409 agreed, they didn’t decide to be mathematicians, the end they state their choices. In a world where building things is prized engineering is much better. PhD in mathematics is lonely and writing papers and teaching.
17 years. 100% graduation. 100% college acceptance. I've never heard stats like that. Incredible kids. Incredible staff. The kind of story that keeps hope alive
They don't want stories like that spread
There are MANY private schools with 100% graduation and college acceptances. LOL
@@mongoosevsgt That's because private schools cherry pick their students and then kick out anyone who is failing. Every private school in my area also has 100% graduation and college acceptances.
Private schools have high expectations and standards, while the government’s department of education has lowered public school expectations and standards, over time. When you have high expectations of your students you’re showing that you *believe in them*
The bigger question not answered is what's the college graduation rate???
Modest, humble young women who were not afraid to take on a challenge which was supposed to be impossible. I love how they were taught in this school to aim high and expect to attain a result. We need more schools geared toward teaching this way and giving the encouragement needed to help students learn they can achieve more than they thought possible.
As a PhD statistician with an undergraduate degree in mathematics, I can say that the mindset that they used to come up with these proofs is exactly the mindset that makes a good mathematician. It's not about being a genius, it's about being patient, persistent, and creative. That said, these skills will also help them in the fields of pharmacology and environmental engineering that they are choosing to pursue. There is no reason for them to go into math if that isn't where their main passion is, I am just saying that they definitely could do it if they wanted to.
Excellent, so they actually entered those fields of study: Pharmacology and Environmental!
Just amazing that you predicted this 🙌....
Here here!
oh stop, chatgpt my friend.
@@AI-Consultant Wtf???
@@AI-Consultant u think chatgpt can invent new proofs?
100% graduation and 100% college acceptance is absolutely amazing. Please bring these standards to all schools in America! Congrats!
I highly doubt in 17 year it's 100%... That's improbable! The grades are getting juiced or they don't count the drop outs.
@LakerTriangle that's a huge accusation. You have proof of that that you can share?
Of course it’s 100% private schools can get away with this because they expel anyone who doesn’t follow the rules. Public schools do not have that option.
@@mlhawkins8342it's an educated guess...She said 100% grad and college acceptance 17 years straight. I want you to actually think about that and life in general. So nobody got into an accident, pregnant, had family issues, nothing... Everyone enrolled made it? Not one drop out? And all proficient in every class?
Statistically it's impossible for that length of time. Name any other entity that has a 100% success rate when dealing with HS age kids for 17 years...
For that you need a very select group of students are actually
smart
motivated
goal oriented.
The current trend of forcing good students to be in the same classroom as disruptive hooligans is VERY harmful to the education of the good students
Wow! As a black, 71year old woman, Math major, I am so proud of these young ladies. Thank you for this story. It is so needed. Watched the video on May 16, 2024.
71? I do restorative therapy in a nursing home can I pick your brain?
Math like this is a superpower.
Can you.imagine all those in public school,for all students. Wake up America your cures are in these children. My grandson loves the tech stuff. These are gifts,lets not overlook them.
@@BTc-ox3mx You are willfully ignorant of real history. Also, punctuation is your friend.
This makes me remember Hidden Figures film. God bless you ladies
I felt like a *PROUD FATHER* watching this!! 👏🏿 I love the standards & rules the school set for them. It carries a precedence of normalcy. The fact that they went to universities & pursued other passions shows how Truly _GIFTED_ their minds are 💡
That was my high school!!!! We were the 100th graduating class in 1995!!!! So proud of you ladies!!!!!!
You were blessed to be launched by a school with caring teachers and administrators who showed extraordinary leadership. This school and all it represents deeply touches my heart!
Great Work. However I do have reservations.
1. Students today use math software to solve everything.
2. The first proof relies on right triangles inside of right triangles. This is circular logic
3. The way the first is constructed (like Archimedes'' proof for the area of a circle) really requires a concept of limits (Fundamental Theorem of Calculus).
4. For the second proof, the only lengths know are the diameter and the radius. The latter doesn't help.
@@jaquesstrappe7664 Given how far their proofs have gone so far in terms of review by the mathematical society, my bet is you're missing something.
#2) 4:43 Right triangle inside of right triangles does NOT imply circular logic. By inspection, you'll notice that the terms successively diminIsh towards zero. This is an INFINITE SERIES. If you're familiar with the Sine and Cosine functions, they are defined by the Taylor series expansion of an infinite series of diminishing terms. I can see where this is headed, and it's not circular logic
#3) Yes, the concept of limits inherently applies. One has to determine if the infinite series converges towards some limiting value., or not.
#4) 5:28 Sorry, but your statement is FALSE. If you look again, it not only lists the diameter (C) and radius (C/2), but by inscribing a right triangle inside the circle, it also defines the other 2 sides of the right triangle. (a, b)
This has nothing to do with trig!
Amen. Proud of you, too❤😊
Not only did they find a solution, they found two separate solutions. What an accomplishment.
There was already a "solution." Since about 300bc. Now if they've proven it with trig that would be interesting.(solving something and proving it are two different things) Though they are not the first to do that either. It's still an accomplishment for highschool girls.
😮
It doesn’t work with some triangles so how is it a proof, almost a proof would not of counted for anyone not african American, hence why you don’t know who Jason zimba is who actually solved the proof in 2009 but he is white so who cares about him
Those two found 7 more solutions, all of them using only trigonometry. That's astounding.
It wasn't a real unsolved problem. Where those exist you don't get students in the same class simultaneously solving them.
Albert Einstein: "“It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer.”
The discipline to work on a problem for as long as it takes to solve it is the best gift a school can give to its students.
These two students worked on the problem for several months, which is a testimony to their mental perseverance. Most people, even genius level people, will eventually put down a really hard problem after struggling to solve it for awhile.
Congrats on cracking a problem thought to be unsolvable! Very impressive accomplishment...
Bro they're smart 😂
I’ve heard that kind of wisdom before, particularly with mathematics. Sure, it helps to be smart. But it also takes the ability to stick to the problem and NOT GIVE UP! I bet it also helps that there appears to be little focus on boys, makeup, phones, etc.
Thanks for that quote.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On!' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
It’s not discipline so much as it is passion for the topic
ALL thanks to a TEACHER.
Just like everything else ❤
That Teacher is a gift. She gave a very difficult problem but did not underestimate her students ability to come up elaborate solutions.
Now that's the moral reason for this story. Well said my friend 👏.
What a moral formula from the teacher. Maybe she's the ultimate genius!❤
@@vegasmokeThis! It doesn’t matter that she and the two students are black. What matters is that she is a *motivating* teacher who pushes her students, and that they *took on the challenge* and achieved a wonderful *accomplishment!*
That is actually the case during segregation at many black schools, as the teachers at many of those schools were over qualified.
@@ckh937610yes black teachers were over qualified during segregation cause jobs were segregated too. Blacks were just not allowed to be in certain high paying professions like engineering.
The 2 girls found proof using trigonometry, went on for 5 additional proofs, and both say they are NOT math geniuses. So SWEET of them!!👋👋👋
They may be pushing against the idea that genius has come up with these things without a ton of work
A Genius never calls him or herself a Genius.
@@StudioB-s7dit's not being cocky if you back it up.
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan Sure, but nobody ever backs it up, because the statement disproves itself.
I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but in this case using the term 'sweet' is denigrating, patronizing, condescending, sexist, rascist, disrespecting, misogynistic, and otherwise unsuitable. Anybody thinks they're just trying to be 'sweet' ? Really ? Would you call Einstein sweet ? He too always refuted to be a genius.
This made me cry because I was told I would never go to college. I proved my counselor wrong and earned two BAs and one MA. Some people can really ruin others. I am happy to see the support system these students have.
This is the way schools used to operate. I don't know what force changed all this goodness.
I would love to meet you. What are your degrees in? What are your favorite books?
@@l.w.paradis2108 >>>>>>>troll
So sorry to hear that! It's so true, I was told the same thing as a young black boy. Now here I am a graduate in STEM working as a software engineer. You have to be persistent, and have goals. Don't listen to the naysayers
Sit down and let their story be their success....can't stand when ppl try to layer their stale story on top of relevant progress in life.
Wow !!! I have no clue what this is but these 2 young ladies solved it after 2000 years !!!!! Great job ladies !!!!! ❤❤
I don't know what is more impressive, the proofs, the humility of the students, or the 100% graduation and college placement. The entire national public education system needs to figure how to apply this approach to the education of all of our nation's children. Truly remarkable!
Dont let your kids be taught by those people. History has taught us wyte people have extreme bias. Their children have it also. Its a sickness of hate. Dont let those people teach your kids
@@RUTHLESSambition5 Buzz off!
A school with rules. There's a lesson there.
Get republican businessmen out of education and end standardized testing.
Well expressed! It truly is ALL quite impressive. I appreciate their humility and that they hold such high standards
This story literally left me breathless and with tears. And it was not just these young women and their proof. It’s the school, its philosophy, its standards, and the staff. These young people can change the world-in fact, we should expect that they will.
Lovely comment!
It has been done before, none of what they did was new or groundbreaking in any way.
That being said it is still impressive that they got to it on their own, it is a serious math problem, and most students would not get to that on their own like these young ladies!! :)
@@CharlieTheAstronautwhere's your PROOF charlie
@@bustaknutt7729 Haha nice one :D
Literally read up on PT if you haven't had it in school. This is not some kind of fringe science, this is one of the oldest and most worked-on theorems in human history. Do you really think that after 2500 years two teen girls from the same school would get separate groundbreaking discoveries XD
@@CharlieTheAstronaut are you familiar with the term "there's more than one way to skin a cat", Charlie... well these two girls have found another two ways to skin the cat..
Beautiful story. I choked up when they said for 17 years the school has had 100% graduation rate, and 100% of the students were accepted to college.
You choked up? This was a touchstone moment for you. Dubious.
@@345mrsesounds like someone who doesn't realize the rates of college acceptance in many many schools.
Same Here
Paying parents expect those results from expensive private schools. When all parents get the same from public education, including great teachers paid great comp, America will have accomplished something much greater than war, selling out its youth and future for donor cash and getting rich while American taxpayers pay for it.
@AdvancedDarknessALL OF THEM! Three are currently working for NASA! Anymore questions? 🙄
“Thank you.” OMG BLESS THESE TALENTED YOUNG WOMEN
So many other schools would benefit if they followed this school's model and philosophy of excellence.
Very much agree.
Absolutely; but that would take a new attitude in public school system -- which is looong overdue.
and do you think St Mary's accepts all students ?
Restore the study of The Philosophy of Education ( as in RS Peters) to all teacher training and curriculum designers and educational policy makers. Remove unit standardized lessons, and restore teacher autonomy.
@@CKLee-rs4kl What? You don't believe in teaching to the least common denominator? 😉
Shoutout to the math teacher for challenging the students - Not necessarily expecting a right answer, but some ingenuity!
I love this story, shout out to that school. This is what happens when you don't have racist teachers in front of Black children. The girls are Great.
@@44bonkers And that's all that's needed PERIOD, Black excellence !!!!
I agree...although if i were a student there, i might be a little irritated that one of our problems was to solve a proof that took professional mathematicians 2,000 years to solve.
I'm a 50 yo man, and I'm in tears. To be surrounded by love and encouragement IS heaven.
Same here - 50 year old man and I’m in tears 😭 by their accomplishments. Glory to God!
Me3(on the crying part)🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 happy happy tears! @@bksekou6135
Same
It is heaven. Just don't forget about the absolute hell that envelopes many many many many many other creatures
Well I’m only 43…and also in tears. 😂 I have two daughters in elementary and I can’t wait to show this to them.
And you two have something that hardly anyone in the world could do. Never sell yourself short of your mind, has nothing to do with your age, sex, or race. YOU ARE GENIUS, YOU ARE SPECIAL.
They know! You’re not saying anything they haven’t heard. Theybare not selling themselves short and don’t need a motivational speech about how great they are. They are choosing to remain humble because they are taught better and because they are smart. Not because they don’t realize it yet.😮
I'm not sure most people wasted their time on this. It's impractical and un-needed
4:08 Props to Ne'Kiya's mother for supplying her daughter access to an excellent education and encouraging her although she has no idea what exactly she's doing. It's honestly so sweet.
I think 99.9% of the world doesn’t know what the students are doing lol I know I have no idea what the students are leaning lol
Absolutely. It can be intimidating to be a mom who cares for a child that is far more intelligent than herself. And you can tell it hasn't hindered her with leading her daughter at all. God gave her to the right woman.
As a Black American woman who struggled through Trigonometry with bitter tears many years ago, I salute these two amazing young scholars!
This _can't_ be a coincidence. If these two young ladies are not geniuses, then it implies that how they were taught
mathematics is the difference maker here.
You got a point there.
But why aren't they geniuses ? Because it had never been done, so it took two math Black geniuses to solve the math problem. So, what is your real point or problem ? Hummmmm
Right they're absolutely geniuses because everyone in that class being taught like they were would've done the same thing too.
@@richardroundtree2022The two young ladies don't belive they are math geniuses.
@@richardroundtree2022 The OP is not saying they aren't geniuses; rather, if they don't feel that and that they are just doing math to this high degree, then their math teacher must be really doing a great job. They are adding value to their understanding of this math but feel as though what they understand is normal for students at St. Mary's. It is indeed a compliment if there ever was one.
These two woman are absolutely amazing. How dare any individual make any degrading comments. These women deserve every bit of accolades for their hard work. Ladies congratulations you have the world in front of you. 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
The world tends to be fearful and jealous of those who do not fit one's standard expectation of success because IMO, many people have not yet experienced how vast and diverse the world really is.
Thankfully, these young women are showing that a belief in oneself, determenation to improve and stick with a problem IS the path of successes.
Thank you for the reminder, young scholars!
Stories such as this deserve more exposure.
There are plenty of stories like this, from all over the world! Black people and Africans, inventing things that were thought to be impossible! But these stories will never be promoted! They're afraid it will break all the negative Black stereotypes they've created!
the president needs to personally congratulate them, this is a big achievement
Also the black media, enough gossip about rappers.
This story was actually international, it was all over social media, including the ones that just talk about non sense, last year.
@@BuffyNoir140actually a lot of black media covered this even tea gif, and lipstick alley. (Of.course tik tok and reddit made it popular first)
This is a tribute to their excellent teacher! This teacher allowed these young women to know their capabilities! Congratulations to all of them!!!
Exactly! As one of the young ladies remarked, people might think that they couldn’t accomplish such a feat- as she stated- particularly due to their age, race & gender. So to have a black, female math teacher like Michelle Blouin-Williams encouraging her students to take on such a task, it must have been an inspiration and motivation. Congratulations to her for pushing her students, and to them for creating new proofs for the theorem. 🧡
Congrats young New Orleans Louisiana ladies in a region that invented Jazz🌹🌹
You have creative people in New Orleans Louisiana.
And congrats to the teachers who inspired, motivated the students , but the students had to do the work!✨🌹✨
Have a Beautiful Journey.
this is an example of an educational system that is educating
Amen!
This is PHENOMENAL! To know that these ladies are from Louisiana… heart touching!
Do not underestimate us. ❤
I was born and raised in New Orleans. Two of my aunts who were both part of the order, Sisters of the Holy Family, taught at St. Mary’s Academy for many years…one has passed on - the other sadly has dementia. They would both be unbelievably proud of these two outstanding young ladies❤️
This is so refreshing to see !!!!!! As a 48 yr old man from Louisiana, these two young ladies extremely inspired me to finish my electrical engineering degree. Inspiration comes in all form's just put your ego ,fear, and the naysayers aside.
Congratulations!!!! Best of luck to you!
Go get em sir!!
I wish you extreme success!!!
Do it!
Yay for you! I’ll be rooting for you.
It's simple! The school creates the RIGHT kind of environment FREE from distractions! Watch the ladies from that school rule the world. Very inspiring!
It makes me feel warm inside to know such school exits. There is no doubt in my mind more than one of these students WILL rule our country in the near future. We are in much need of change; they will be that change.
Exactly, schools shouldn't be governed by policy machines and popular (wealthy) opinions! Students need the freedom to explore big questions.
The school is important, but it’s not just the school, it’s how they are raised at home too.
I was already blown away, but when she said " I want this to celebrated for what it is a great mathematical achievement". respect to the both of them. I hope they get full rides to the university of their choice".
I'm an old carpenter, I learned the pythagorean theorem when I was about 25. I only knew it as the "3,4,5", because I had to make a building square. I cried with admiration for these two young ladies. Yeah, I have learned a lot of math, since, when I can do it with a tape measure, so I'm not lost, but the brains in these kids are amazing. I hope y'all run the world, soon.
Governare il mondo? Non basta il teorema di Pitagora... 😂😂😂😂
@@jasonjmarchi Yeah, I did mean any multiple of 3,4,5, just that's what we called it. But long since I just used a calculator for any number I wanted. But when cutting a knee brace that has to be 33 15/16, and rounding to 34 doesn't work, it's the same principle. Multiples of 3-4-5 is good framer smarts, good rule of thumb.
As someone who completed calculus and absolutely failed their math major, and had to drop out due to proofs, the difficulty of this is hard to explain to someone who's never tried one. This is a monumental achievement, and the depths of this challenge cannot fully be understood by someone non versed in mathematics. The fact that teenagers did this is mind blowing. All the kudos in the world, congrats.
Though I would say at first learning proofs isn't easy by any stretch. It's not that bad... especially not to drop out from lol 😂
One does not "complete" calculus. You completed a single course in calculus.
@@reh3884 That's exactly what completing calculus means, it means you completed a calculus course
In college I passed all my math courses with A's and 1-b+. I had 4 main and 2 i took as electives. For me, what I found out is they are teaching SHORTCUTS and getting to the end answer did not connect for me. I had to study the book and with some personal tutoring I was able to understand the flow and remember the formulas. My child is in elementary school and I had to check/ conference a teacher about my child's work same issue about SHORTCUTS If the answer is correct and the work is shown there shouldn't be a problem. Math is not always straightforward.
Yes, but in a Mathematics curriculum, you have to be able to compose proofs on the fly; these gals had months to figure it out - and oh, I am sure they were assisted along the way.
This is proof you can accomplish the seemingly impossible when you don't have people poisoning your mind with doubt and telling you what "can't be done."
Exactly! This was the uplifting video I needed tonight ❤
I know, right!? I used to tell my son the same. Until he jumped off a building trying to fly
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, let me tell u, in the Blk community, there is A LOT of that going on, from the ppl who own the media to the ones who have fallen for their agenda. You r lucky if you escape not feeling like a victim.
It’s not the impossible. It’s a beautiful accomplishment they earned.
Truly incredible. Not because of or despite their race, age or sex; but because of their attitude, perseverance and willingness to learn and think. Bravo.
I thought they worked together to find a single proof. I didn’t realize they worked separately and found two separate proofs. That is amazing!
We need more schools like this.
Yes WE do.
@@KJ-df9ozWhat do you mean by your response? Is there a particular connotation attached to "WE"? Obviously there is. Why not just come out and say it? I think we all as Americans should want for there to be more schools that are so focused on achieving excellence amongst their students and use such good philosophies and environment to educate bright young minds and prepare them to achieve academically and go on to become successful adults... But I think it's pretty misguided to want such opportunities only for students of one's own racial group. I couldn't imagine making any statement ever to express any desire to have such opportunities for any racial group. I'd be ashamed of myself if I ever expressed any desire for there to be any such opportunities to be available for anything other than all young Americans. In fact I can't imagine making any statement about improving educational opportunities, or anything else, and qualifying it as being specifically for my own racial group.
Adults create schools/students like this. Are you in your neighborhood school helping?All hands on deck are required. Everyone can do something. This is awesome and definitely can be replicated in many many children.
No we don’t. This idea that schools are needed is why we are all
Slaves to the system. You have the ability to learn anything you want at the comfort of your own home at your own fingertips using the World Wide Web.
I entirely agree.
If I had a daughter and I lived in New Orleans, she would go to the school even if she didn’t get a scholarship I would pay this tuition only second to paying my house note. Much congratulations to these ladies. This is one of the most impressive stories I’ve heard all year, I’m gonna find a way to make charitable donations to the school every year
Worshipping Mary is satanic tho
Great comment and great idea!
Teachers dream of working in a supportive environment like this school.
I feel the same way.
@@roundtwo3321Yep, I agree. Schools like this really should be the model used in public education, or at least some facets of it in my opinion. K-12 teaching positions in public schools really should be highly incentivized with great salaries and benefits, with admin that not only listens to but also stands up for its staff.
We have to make teachers want to come back, and right now we're just chasing them away. I don't get it
totally skippable anecdote incoming: I worked a brief stint at a garlic bread factory once. I got in an argument with a coworker there who kept saying that school teachers didn't deserve to make as much as people at the factory, because "they babysit kids and make 'em take tests a few times, then get 3 months off a year! they don't get to complain". I was stunned.
I argued that teachers are raising each new generation of our society. Yeah they're teaching them facts, but schools teach so many more important lessons on things like morality, ethics, self-respect, civic duty, a sense of community, and so on. By comparison, we made frozen garlic bread. Frozen--Garlic--Bread. He still didn't get it, and then he looked at me like *I* was the idiot...
I felt like... is this what the average American thinks about our schools? Make it make sense...
I am in AWE of these two amazing women. I had SUCH a hard time in school learning math and still struggle. I'm so proud of them.
The genius of these 2 individuals combined with their modesty has me in tears. Inspirational.
Yep!
I just cried in awe at how amazing and humble these two young women are... I hope the future brings amazing things for these two and their school gets all the accolades!
I call BS on this. The proof the actual papers giving the proof haven't been published but a video like this had? If I told you I've cured dementia would you do a video first or demand a demonstration?
When students aren't led to believe they can't, and learn instead through experience that they actually can achieve things, then the possibilities become endless. What is amazing is the 17 year record for the school of a 100 % graduation rate along with a 100% college acceptance rate. 100% for 17 years. Wow.
IOW they need to get away from WS run schools.
What an amazing school, and what talented students.....all of them! 16 years of 100% graduation rate, and 100% college acceptance. Awesome! Congratulations!!!
These kiddos gave something to the scientific world to play with for generations to come yet they remain so humble. They totally rock! ✊🏽
I don't think they fully understand just how cool they are!
I hope their names are in history and text books.
@@CKLee-rs4kl Oh yes they do, at the end they say what else they did that will knock the socks off the mathematical world.
Major!!!
Every young person needs this type of education
Every preschooler is a genius.
not every child wants it though
@@SgtJoeSmith So why punish those who do by not offering it? Those who aren't interested are few and far between. There are people who would probably say the same things about these young ladies until they were given the tools they needed to be successful.
Every person shall have access to quality education.
Fixed your uneducated rambling.
@@Look_What_You_Did Do you feel superior now?
With all the horrible sad news out there, this is a giant light of hope and positivity! A huge congratulations to two amazing girls!
for real, theres tons of stories like this that dont make the news
Schools for black students only gives you hope and positivity?
Yes, please keep up.the postive stories. We need the inspiration and hope
As long as we are still classifying students by color of skin and making them go to the schools with kids of the same
Segregating schools?
I love how the young ladies are so good in their explanations. They would make excellent teachers. The first girl remembered to define congruent for the audience.
I hope their teacher is up for an award for this! Great job teaching problem solving to bright kids!
definetly
Listen, she's over teaching math how we all should've had math back in school. Some great stuff!
The Principal and all of the teachers at the school should be up for awards.
Hitting the mark, a sign of talent. Hitting the mark that nobody else can see... That's genius. You ladies are brilliant.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
What impresses me is their problem-solving ability. These two women went off and worked at the problem and kept at it. I'm a retired computer programmer and my strongest skill was trouble-shooting. I had situations where I had to dig into problems and keep digging until I found the cause and find a solution. It takes persistence, and these two have that. You can have brains but persistence is what leads to success.
The problem in most American classrooms is that kids are taught to memorize instead of how to understand and apply fundamental concepts. When you learn basic concepts and break down math problems, math is nowhere near as difficult as people think it is.
I agree. Basic problem solving should be taught in grade school.
I read somewhere that it took Thomas Edison, 1,000 tries to come up with the right filament for the encandescent light bulb. Imagine if he would had gave up on his 999 tried. Persistence, is the name of the game!
Speechless. Bring this energy and dedication to schools all around the world please... Amen
Love these two young ladies.
I am 72 now, came up with a theorem, was not encouraged to go into engineering or physics. Low expectations back then… nurse secretary teacher all I dreamed about was designing buildings Buck M. Fuller Frank Loyd Wright my guidance counselor helped me get accepted into RISDI … my parents ended that dream . Feel blessed that your creativity and problem solving is a gift , make the world a better place .
Some would say “those were the times” and some would say “that lack of support is shameful.”
I would guess that you taking the time to pass that lesson on much later in life is probably just another example of you making this world a better place.
Surprisingly, it was easier to solve the Pythagorean theorem problem than to prove that a woman with a penis is not a woman!!
@signumcrucis71 For every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, obvious, and wrong.
As much as humans want to categorise everything into neat (ideally binary) boxes - friend/foe, male/female, good/bad etc. - Nature is nuanced.
The vast majority of developmental disorders are incompatible with life, and result in a miscarriage, whereas differences of sexual or gender development are not, because our reproductive systems are not essential for our survival (unlike, say, our cardiovascular system).
So there is much more variation in human sex and gender than we are used to seeing - in every other way, humans are incredibly uniform.
I’m sorry human sex and gender don’t fit into your neat binary model, but maybe it is time to expand your model.
Every model of reality is a trade-off between accuracy and simplicity. The most accurate model of reality is reality itself.
But hey, nuance is hard for some people. 🤷🏻♂️
@maddeusdoggeus1 I wanted to make a supportive comment to OP, but couldn’t come up with one better than this, so instead I will just second your comment. 👍🏻
@@signumcrucis71you are not well bringing things up that have nothing to do with the topic. Obviously transexuality deeply disturbs you, but you dont have to spray your issues all over the internet. You are contributing nothing. Peace.
This story made my day.
It just goes to show us that when children are given an environment in which they can thrive, they will thrive.
No matter what color or gender they are. And a great teacher makes a big difference in how a child learns
So kudos to the school,the teachers and the students.
Peace to all
Well said 🎉
Disciplined environment.
The school fostered an atmosphere and culture of empowerment and achievement. This is what every school should adopt.
That's what humanity should adopt for all people... :)
@@robbrown4621 Tell that to the Republicans.
@@geekworthy7938….and to the Democrats (aka) Dixiecrats 🤦🏾♀️
@@bellaBdaughterofYAHAWAH7 Republican official agenda 2025 is to totally eliminate the department of education. Look it up!
Oh come on. Don't start acting as if schools do want achievement and academic success! How about all parents becoming what and who these young women's parents are---committed to their child's education. The schools can only do what they can do with who is sent to them!
They are all graceful and poised, solid inside and gentle outside. It is so nice to see young ppl being well brought up and striving to better themselves👍
One of the first things I thought seeing this on UA-cam was the space program There was a movie about 4 I believe African American women who were behind the math in the space program and one of them was considered like a math computer
Please don’t write these girls off as anomalous geniuses. It sounds like they are among the bright, hard-working students at their school, and they did the work. This is a nice demonstration of what can happen when barriers are removed and students are supported to remain curious and aim high. More of this, please.
Educated people are more likely to vote democratic.
If you compare states who spend more money on education to those that spend less, the higher spenders are blue states.
Exactly 💯
Now, if only they could pronounce words like "library" and "ask"....
@@philipstowers4741
Make stupid comments about cultural accents after you've also solved a nearly impossible to solve mathematical problem.
@FoursWithin Yeah ok, I kinda' have to give you that one...
Kudos to the teacher for knowing this as a long standing math problem and presenting it to her students.
All the girls and women shown here are an inspiration.
Ive got to shout out the interviewe too, he did a wonderful job. He prioritised the perspectives of the interviewees, was respectful and its clear to see that he wanted them to feel comfortable. A stellar example of journalism
i can't stand interviews that show the interviewer's face in those fake questioning shots, as if that person is some intellectual giant on the topic at hand. much better to just listen to interviews like this one, rather than watch it.
_'A stellar example of journalism'_
He literally ignored the fact that this "story" is bogus.
This is an amazing story. The school, the two math wizards, the teachers, the attitudes and expectations. 17 years, 100% graduation and college acceptance rate. The girls come into that school and they are absolutely going to make it. There's no question. It's amazing what we can do under the right conditions.
One of the things no one seem to be talking about is the dept of mastery these students have to know and have been taught, in order to have the abilities to come up with these two different proofs. As someone who has had a lot of math in college getting through a course is much, much easier then going deep into understanding of what is it you are really doing. It is usually not until you are in upper level courses that you understand better lower level courses. There is something very special happening at this school to produce these students, these two different proofs, and the ability to come up with them. What an amazing job!!!
Surprisingly, it was easier to solve the Pythagorean theorem problem than to prove that a woman with a penis is not a woman!!
Math isn’t difficult if you’re taught correctly. This school clearly does that and also teaches it in the correct order: geometry BEFORE algebra. Teaching algebra first makes students math-stupid. We didn’t do that here until the 1970s. They still don’t do it in places like Norway, and this school.
As a former physics teacher, I have to say that this makes me so proud of these kids, the teachers, the admin, and the school as a whole. I'm so sad there are such nay-sayers but even more overjoyed that within such a world, this school and these girls could show us all the proof at least just as great as their multiple Pythagorean Theorem proofs, the proof that young people, especially young black women, can break barriers thought unbreakable.
The highest of fives to everyone involved!! ❤❤
Well said fellow physics teacher! :)
Agreed. I think young people are often made to feel they should 'sit small' rather than challenge the academic boundaries out there. This is to the detriment of our society's development and progress.
So not only did they come up with a trigonometric proof, but they came up with two different ways to make that proof? Wow.
Sounds like she said they found 5 and possibly an additional 5 at the end there.
5 possibly 10
I know its not gonna happen, but how funny would it be if like in a month we found out they both used chat-GPT to get the answer. lol
@@VidaFBaby1 Plus a generalized proof.
@@HasturBeta None of the LLM's are that smart, they have a long way to go to do things that people can do. (At least a year). I drive a Tesla its smart and drives better than a human, but still makes mistakes, mostly in navigation.
They have set an example for all people. The young, old, African Americans, women, men, and more. We are fortunate to have them as an example of intelligent, hard working, self-confident, and hopeful young people. May they continue to reach whatever future goals they may have.
Absolutely hands down unsurprised that two hard working, intelligent, driven, articulate and aware students, with proper guidance at school and support from home, could change the world. No matter color, race, sexual orientation, gender or economic status. I applaud these wonderful human beings! Way to go!
Who said anything about their color, race, or gender? If they were white men would you have made any mention of their race or gender? It’s the things you aren’t saying in what you are saying that make this so funny.
@@zachmorley158Do you have any idea of what you’re talking about? If they were white men they would have gotten instant credit for their proof without anybody doubting that they were capable of this. What’s funny is that you think that’s OK.
@@zachmorley158 they themselves said it at the end of the video if you watched it? not everyone is mentioning race out of nowhere, the girls in the video themselves said it. you're growing the divide by your failure to pay attention its weird
Calm down. You cant be like that for free.
@@Optim40 appreciate the clear as mud context. At whatever cost, we should, as they have, seek excellence. At every level.
I've loved math all my life and now an engineer. I am tearing up. The descending triangle to infinity is so brilliant. To do such a thing in high school.
Same. Every time a new math proof story breaks, I can't read it fast enough. This was a shot out of left field and I'm here for it.
This story should be shared worldwide!
Share and like it❤..
We know it won't be.
It won't be. It doesn't fit the stereotypes.
“I would actually like to be celebrated for what it is…it is a great mathematical achievement” - her humility and deep understanding beyond the reasons that tend to classify who we are is commendable.
I love this so much! 😭😭😭
Baby girl said it best at 7:43-7:49
"Celebrate it for what it is: A GREAT mathematical achievement." 🎉💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The term genius takes away from the effort of the accomplishment. I understand that people mean it as an compliment, but there is reason that they are refusing it. They worked very hard to accomplish what they accomplished.
The school also emphasizes that they believe all of their students can accomplish great things. Attributing success to genius, goes against the idea that everyone can succeed.
I’m glad that they realize that from such a young age. I’m no genius and I had to struggle five to six hours a day studying organic chemistry to earn a 97 overall. You can’t learn what you don’t consistently think about.
@@VonJay Organic Chemistry kills a lot of med school hopes and dreams. Congratulations on not giving in!
@@VonJay As someone who's also taking organic, I feel your pain. And I'm pretty sure I'm just learning the most basic of organics.
@@VonJay This comment should be plastered everywhere
Or the fact that they are getting credit for what a white dude did in 2009 Jason zimba or the fact they didn’t use only trigonometry like the news claims look at the equations
I haven't cried this much from one video for as long as I can remember...beyond proud of these humble ladies, wishing both of them the best of futures!
Tf wrong with you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Coming from someone who had to take college algebra 3 times these young ladies are beyond impressive
I'm so proud of these girls. I'm shocked that they didn't go into math disciplines. The fact that they're not aspiring math mathmeticians and still accomplished this just highlights the level of excellence expected from them. Kudos to all the adults in their life holding them to high expectations.
Boy, America needs more schools like this. From elementary to High School to College. No matter what the race. This school is remarkable and so are the kids.
No it doesn't. Guarantee you voted against public education.... more than once. There is a party that is undercutting your education... while pumping public funds into private schools so they can fully moderate the attendance and the curriculum. A party that receives billions from elite colleges and their alma mater... I bet you don't see a problem with that...
There are already MANY schools like this unfortunately it's quite the opposite of what is happening now.
@@mongoosevsgtwhat does many mean to you? 😂
@@ajatathemu Many as in numerous. What does it not mean to you?
@@mongoosevsgt many is relative. There are not many schools like this. That’s part of the problem.
SO many lessons to learn from this. 1. Discipline matters a lot to a child's overall development. 2. Good schools play a huge role in academic success. 3. Good teachers important. 4. Setting bar high is very necessary.
The sky is the limit for both of you. I'm very proud of both of you.
I was so focused on the girls, and their accomplishment, and then the environment that fostered their motivation and intelligence, that my heart dropped when they shared the stereotypes they faced. Outrageous. They are so gracious and down to earth and still at it. God bless them.
Their parents must be extremely proud.
The dads can't be found...
@tobyfitzpatrick3914, I just watched a dad being interviewed in this story. How could you possibly miss that?
@@tobyfitzpatrick3914
Cece and Cal, Calcea's parents, are definitely in the video ... Neliska, Ne'Kiya's mom is sitting next to them by herself. Why?
"Donald Jackson passed away on February 3, 2019 at the age of 40. He leaves behind his wife Neliska Jackson, his 3 children Ne'kiya, Jakhi and Demetris"
He's DEAD. He was also a veteran.
You can scour through hours of videos of kids every other color just living their lives, and not one random will slander them with anything ... Yet you can find cavebeast culture within minutes if the child is black, even if the video is featuring a baby. What is it with that?
I guess we should all start assuming you and some random kids are or will be internationally traveling, dog defiling, child defiling Peter Scully's at some point. Because who cares about individual achievements
@@tobyfitzpatrick3914do we know where your dad is 🤔🤣🤣
@@tobyfitzpatrick3914 an apology is warranted admit you were wrong Toby
Congratulatins ladies from a 76 year old math lover. We need to create a country where this is encouraged nationally.
For corporate media, 60 Minutes proves to consistently be the finest broadcast show in all of television because of stories like this. Great story!!
I’m a 45 year old Asian American man and I’m INSPIRED by these AMAZING young women and their school.
What does your age race, and gender Gotta do with it?
Fake comment 🤣🤣🤣
@bribay Apparently you don’t live in the US. In this country, we never need to ask those questions. Those three things have bearing on everything in our lives.
@@hopegold883 yes. Separate schools for black students is best for everyone
@@nochepatada I hate interacting with trolls, but why Black students specifically 😭
Astonishing that two young ladies who know each other from school EACH created separate and very different proofs. After thousands of years, and just one prior proof. Truly amazing work! What fantastic minds!
Damn this really makes me want to cry. It's refreshing to see schools that have standards and strive for the best for their students. Like they're actually LEARNING!! These 2 young women are incredibly talented. So respectful, so well spoken, dressed in the school uniform, and pushing their knowledge to no limit! The teacher and parents are also a factor in this as well. Big shoutout to them!
TF is everyone crying about? JESUS H
Impressive. Congratulations to those two hard working young women. However, it should be understood that the proof that was briefly mentioned in the video cannot be considered purely trigonometric since it uses the notion of the infinite. It could be argued that this is an analytical proof.
This is nothing short of amazement for me. I barely passed chemistry class in college with a B,(c’s were not acceptable to obtain my degree) and accepted it HAPPILY. To see these students succeed at 100% graduation, 100% college acceptance is nothing short of a miracle. The staff at this school needs to run the educational department in Washington DC.
What’s your degree?
@elainepurdyyahu9493
RE: "The staff at this school needs to run the educational department in Washington DC."
No, they don't. They should stay exactly where they are, and people from other educational institutions could come and emulate and be trained in their methods. Being political bureaucrats in the DOE would be less than useless.
@@spaceman081447 yes, i thought about people would take my statement literally. I wasn’t thinking they should leave where they physically are and move to Washington DC.
They can indirectly run it by allowing others to learn their concepts and be willing to implement the necessary changes. I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, there should be no compromise where the shade is grey. What is your opinion on the students who don’t fit?
@@SixOhFive my grad degree was in environmental science. We just had to pass chemistry back then. Don’t know what the criteria is now. My mother and son are both nurses. Chemistry came easy for them- I think it was a mental block with me. These young ladies at this school shows the majority of people are capable of learning what we consider very difficult.
@@elainepurdyyahu9493
What do you mean by "students who don't fit"? I believe that anyone can be taught if the teacher is willing to make the necessary effort.
Beautiful, bright, and set for greatness. What a privilege, to witness two very young women using trig to solve a proof and to derive it independently. Tears of joy here...Thank you for "finishing what" you "started". I am so proud.
How I wish every school around the world would follow the example of this school's teaching style.
That idea runs counter to the Marxist Agenda.
Me too
Wow! I must save this video. They are doing things that haven't been done, showing their genius. Yet, they are so humble and thankful. Wow! I must learn this lesson
The fact that the school very much encourages creative thinking like that makes me optimistic for the future. Just wish they get the opportunity they should be getting.
Surprised, not shocked. A majority of the science/math/art innovations have come from people who were relatively young (20s).
This story really warms my heart. Giving young people the tools and expectations to do big things and then they go and do them.
So true. I think it's because they are still at the age where we are still told we can do anything.
Only 3 trig proofs for Pythagoras' Theorem on 3-sided right triangles in the last 2,000 years?! If the universe ended in the 2020s, I wouldn't be surprised lol (joke).
if it was two asian kids they'd never be on tv lol
@@kebabmarley2505 Here we go with the baiting. Any kid who has an academic break through like this is going to be recognized.
@@KaySpradley yeah with michelle obama congratulating I am sure and their news story being republished after a year just for more clicks lol
I love Ne'kiya and Calcea's position, "forget we're black, forget we're female, and forget we're 17. We are following our passion. You go ladies!'
My 10th grade math teacher encouraged me to figure out why 0! is defined as 1 in 1985. Called him up in 2008 to explain how factorials are derived from the Euler-Gamma function. Rufus Dickerson's time and influence stayed with me all those years. Great teachers and mentors and key!
Let’s thank this teacher for presenting this question to them! Great work to the teacher.
I'm in my final year of school in England sitting my A-Level Maths exam next month safe to say that Ne’Kiya and Calcea really inspired me! Well done!
Best wishes, fly high and pass it on the the next one. You've got this!
Go for it! A-Level Maths is an achievement to be applauded, and you can do it!
From a fellow Brit... you got this. Best wishes.
Good luck!
I wasn't suppose to cry-I am so proud of our young minds today, there's hope for humanity and the future.❤
Hunnie , its ok to craaah . because i was fixin' to cry as well.
I cried to....I'm so proud of them and they're so humble. My heart!
The last few seconds made me tear up…humility and grace. What a beautiful segment.
This is so amazing! Like I wish they wouldn’t downplay their achievements. Yes all the girls at that school is capable and smart but these two girls just rocked the world with a 2000 year old problem and they did it separately! I was expecting to watch this video and see something that they collaborated on but their initial proof was done separately. They both have a solve individually. They’re smart as all heck!