He wouldn't have known his cards weren't reading unless he was cheating. This is the smoking gun. Even the commentators didn't understand until a bit later.
Right.he should have no interest in the chip readers unless their telling him it's not working for the audience.and they wouldn't do that,they would stop the game and fix the reader to resume play.hes a straight cheater, pathetic
When? That's an odd thing to say. In the old days of saloons they'd kill a man right then and there or they'd duel. You wouldn't dare cheat in a game with mobsters, unless you're a fool. Then you may end up dead but I would think that a cheater would be killed so everybody knows that if you cheat the mob you die.
@@tommyscott9085 they took up most of the rackets the mafia had, or at least replaced them with companies willing to give massive amounts on income tax.
I would say it already has. Dude can't step foot in a poker room again. Players will break the table if he sits down. I would call him on his shit and let rest of the table know. His punishment is only going tp get worse from here.
@@sh0cktim3 It will blow over. Chris ferguson stole literally thousands more than this guy has, and he walks the floors of the rio with ease and even won player of the year. There is no justice in the world.
We don't know Ferguson's involvement exactly except Matisow saying he wasn't really to blame except for letting criminals run his company. And he worked hard to get every person paid and succeeded. That is much different (I hope) then what this dude is doing which is stealing intentionally.
"Now Mike is in genuinely tough spot because his opponent COULD have him beat, and he DOESN'T KNOW!!" Yea, welcome to the real world, Mike ;D That's how it is for the rest of us mortals...
Ironically, two of them filed anti-SLAPP suits and he was ordered to pay $27k as a judgement each time. Also he later filed for unintentional bankruptcy.
I mean I’m not defending him but because they weren’t able to legally prove he was cheating, his only real move to feign innocence was to counter sue for defamation. What bothers me the most is how we all focus on postle but what ever happened to those others who orchestrated this.
Right after the hand he walks into the commentary booth and asks "why weren't the cards scanning??" how did he know it wasn't scanning right?? 2x proof of his odd behavior around the cards not being scanned
Theres more to this hand, he goes in the back immediately after and asks the commentator why the cards weren't reading properly. prompting the question, how did he know they weren't being registered in real time.
The hands are on a 30 minute delay. He went into the booth 45 minutes after the hand, so if he was watching the live stream he would of seen what happened. He did seem concerned though that the card reader was acting up. It's still all very fishy
I want to know why they let people have their phones in their laps. Is everyone else just scared they will get caught, or they just don't want to cheat, or Mike gets away with it because he knows the cameras can't see what is on his phone screen....
Nothing he did was against the law. The situation is currently in the civil court system, and Postle just filed a motion to avoid involuntary bankruptcy.
I'm a little new to poker, why are phones allowed at the tables? Maybe they could follow the rules set by the WSOP regarding communication & approved electronic devices.
I wish they would have gotten the win rate data and went through all the film before they went public. Invite him to the next stream and nail him in the act. That would have been awesome!
Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm sure well meaning people like Joey and Doug now realise that a sting would have been the right way to actually get solid evidence on him.
They've gotten a lot of information from people just looking through hours of live feeds. I believe this hand was actually caught by someone other than Joey or Doug.
There will be no sentence, unless from a plea bargain. Cheating will be next to impossible to prove in a court of law. Justice system does not work on poker logic or probabilities. That's why they should have kept a lid on it until some wiretapping or other evidence incriminated them.
@@bakermob29 Yeah, hope they win and as a European, I don't really have the required in depth understanding of the American legal system. In my country tho, going to court for something like this, would be a fool's errand, even if clearly in the right morally. One would basically only do it out of principle, since we don't have a system of punitive damages.
There is just no way he isn’t connected to the card readers. His world is about to come crumbling down. You never know it may not have been his idea to run the cheat. Could be a Stones employee who confronted him about doing it. Either way his world is going to crash and burn.
Vanessa said that directly behind the banner behind the table is where the Poker Director Justin would sit, and she would often see him talking into a mic on his cufflink. the hand where HE TELLS another player that HIS CARDS WEREN'T READ by the reader says it all. how could he POSSIBLY know that?!! unless someone told him in real time.
I think Mike is setup by some organizers of these events. He'll eventually make thier names if interrogated... I think he reads the RFIDs data with hat and phone for results, or are involved in a way. Plus the signaling with the hand on the head... clearly somebody is on the other side helping. To hard to pull a clean cheating like this just by one guy alone.
@@Noname23489 It's true, but the commentator didn't know that at the time. He probably wasn't in on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're told to treat him like the favorite in their analysis
My theory: It's as simple as tapping into the signal. When the table scans your cards, the signal sent to the display can be tapped into/intercepted. With the device Mike has, which may not be a phone, it taps into the signal and can read every card that is being scanned in just like the Display. It's possible that the only reason Mike looks like he's really thinking could be because his device does not eliminate those who fold, therefore, he has to do the process of elimination himself and hope that his hand can beat every hand at the table. In this clip, the "frustration" in the end was just an act. How do I know? Because look at it this way: If Mike knew Steve's hand the entire time, he would have no reason to look down at his device. Coincidentally, during that 1v1 Mike didn't look down not once. When the river was revealed, he knew he had the winning hand, therefore showing a "frustrated" act as if he didn't know what to do, but without hesitating calls the hand. Just like anyone who pretends they have a weak hand, in the end as soon as the other bets you call it/raise without hesitating because you know without a doubt you have the winning hand (whether it be pocket Aces and so on)
He looks at his crotch at the beginning of the hand and when the 4 cards aren't scanning he tries to re-scan them and moves them around vigorously and looks down again, then he gives up on the crotch check and plays him knowing he has a6 of clubs and it is why he is hesitant to call his rover bet cause he might have aces though not likely since he didnt 3 bet pre
On the matusow podcast he said he doesn't. Maybe less than $15k. Gamblers are notoriously bad or splashy with money. $250k in the pocket $235k spent and gone
Let's hope he has equity in a house or something he can sell and pay these people back. Knowing degens I doubt it. I would like to see him vs Ivey heads-up in the World Championship of Angle Shooters and Advantage Players
His continual spreading of the cards was for two reasons. One, to try to get them to scan. But most importantly, two. He was signalling to the booth that they were announcing the wrong game. The announcer picked up on it, then switches gears into damage control mode.
100% he had insiders telling him what to do .. his constant use of his cap is the reason .. he gets info signals on it .. its an old trick cap technology .. its so obvious
Facts the commentators are in on it at least 1 of em…I jus watched another video where he played 5,4o and I swear it seemed like da they was slick tellin him to bet but hey I could be wrong 🤷🏽♂️
and how does Mike know that the cards didn't scan correctly? He did it multiple times butnobody told him that the cards didn't scan correctly the first time.
For me that is the most undeniable piece of evidence because if he was unaware that the cards hadn't picked up why would he put so much effort into getting them to scan unless somehow he knew that 2 of the cards hadn't scanned. Another thing I found interesting is that he seemed to be putting more effort into trying to scan 2 of his cards as opposed to only trying to scan all 4 of them. Good video Doug
he is working alone. he paid a hacker and programmer to write a phone app. if he was working alone he could get various customised vibrating ringtones for plays so he wouldnt need to look down
For any live broadcast events and RFID identified cards, there should be no phones, no cameras, no electronics, metal detectors and full cavity search.
In chess tournaments you cannot have cell phones with you at all. They even have metal detectors for that. And if in some tournaments you are allowed to have phones with you... They have to be switched off. If your phone gets a text or rings... You get immediate loss! With chess programs we have now you can have stockfish program and beat everyone there is. Sometimes there are some cases with someone watching games, checking moves with computer and whispering to earpiece with Bluetooth for example. I don't play poker but I like games in general and I play chess and all these issues are interest of me.
watching him trying to make the cards register is the most damning evidence I've seen. It is so obvious and there is no excuse for why he would be doing it.
Nice job explaining this. Thanks. Could his name 'SMFC' have anything to do with this? "Show Me Four Cards?" Would be interesting to know when his name was changed?
You should put this together with the vid of Postle going into the booth and ASKING about the readers being wrong, specifically about this hand. It's pretty damning.
If he was cheating, he's not very smooth at cheating. There are too many obvious flaws in his cheating. If he wasn't cheating, his table demeanor and decision making doesn't resemble any great player in poker history. He's one awkward poker genius.
The allegations are that he is fed the card information, if the cards aren't being read, then the conspirators (or stream feed) can't inform him of the other players cards..?
Any casino I go to in Louisiana “only places I’ve traveled” you have to keep your phone above the rail so people can see what you are doing And they will kick you out if you put it under the rail after a warning or two. Not sure if it is like that in other states; it should be.
Here in the UK you can only be on your phone when NOT in a hand and as other people said above the rail at all times. If Stones is such a legit club why don’t they insist on this rule too?
Washington doesnt let you have your phone out at all. But they do appreciate counting (no bull shit) had a buddy at the table say "i lost the count" and the dealer tell me to tell him. "+4" played another hour thinking someone must be coming to "have a talk with me" soon. Never happened. Maybe cause i only left up 80 bucks.
Mike Dupree yes because it’s the 1940s and someone is going to hurt him or kill him because he cheated in a poker game, that’s the stupidest comment I’ve ever read
Rapido20 clearly you don’t live in reality. sketchy things happen even today my friend. legs and fingers still get broken even though he may not get killed. depends on who’s in the game and also who their backers are.
Michael Brown this is so dumb, you’re leaving in fantasy, this is isn’t an 80s mob movie, nobody cares about a lame poker game like to go to jail because someone cheated, I bet you voted for trump
Was giving him the benefit of the doubt till this and his hitting top pair and folding on the turn against 999 yesterday. Your observations are much better thought out than everybody else posting video. Thanks
Appreciate the honesty, but did it really take you that long to catch on? I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt at first, as well, mainly because that's the morally correct approach to take in this type of scenario. However, the cheating was so blatant and obvious that those "benefits" turned to "doubts" almost immediately. Perhaps you just hadn't seen some of the more flagrant examples of cheating until recently, so I'll just take the benefit of the doubt I had set aside for Postle and give it to you instead.
This, if nothing else, is HARD irrefutable evidence. Why is he trying to rescan his cards? How the hell would he even know that his cards aren't appearing on stream? Super user confirmed!!!
His neighbor did the same thing .. Look.. Also why would mike Care if his cards are registering or not ? Why would he Care if he's cheating .. Its the other people's cards he needs to scan not his own
I'm just amazed that if so many people actually suspected Mike of cheating, why would they even allow him to play another game of cards, regardless if it was for cash or tournament? he should be black listed and never invited to another game. Apparently the other players are just fine with it continuing as it is.
I noticed he kept running them over the scanner like that, too. Almost as if he was getting messages saying, "I only see 2." "Try it again." ""Try it with each one individually."
Agree. Why fan your cards out in that way and then run each one individually over the scanner. Someone at Stones Live is definitely in on this scam as well as Postle. Convict Postle and the house of cards will crumble when he squeals like the pig that he is. The only people I feel bad by all of this are the players who got scammed by Postle and his daughter. Postle is a low life POS and I hope he gets what's coming to him in the end. At the very least he won't be trusted on any poker table he joins from here on out.
great stuff like always Doug but here's the thing. If players, staff, and representatives of Stones Live are not willing to confront Postle and challenge him to play without having his phone on his lap, they're in on it. I wouldn't sit for longer than 30 mins before telling Postle off on his shady attitude at the table. Common sense guys c'mon...
This is the most convincing individual hand I've seen so far. It's so so clear he is trying to re-scan those cards, but he should have no idea at all there there's a scanning/display issue.
A bit hardcore to go full sharia on him. I like the idea of strapping him to a bed, dose him with 400 ug of LSD and pulling the saw out as a scare only. That shit would be punishment enough... And a jail sentence after that.
@A Round Orifice in Nothingness I heard someone who uses hindsight to give the impression they are intelligent also enjoys the taste of penis. Is this true?
In my poker club in London, no phones allowed, and if it rings, or a message comes, the whole table pauses until that person is finished, or left the table. If someone is cheating when no phones are allowed, then it’s not the cheater who we blame!!
You have no idea how happy I am to see this video. I am late to all of this and saw my first video covering him only a few days ago, with no follow up videos. There is something enjoyable about watching a cheater/scammer get his due.
He had 2 pair on the flop and made a full h on the turn. So what is the big deal ? Comahhha (omaha hi poker) is a totally different game then holdem poker. Omaha has 16,432 starting hand combinations if we ignore the suits. If we'd include the suits, there would be 270,725 possible combinations for your four hole cards in Omaha poker. This is compared to only 169 starting hands in Texas Hold'em, or 2,652 if we include the suits.
Totally. I play in southern california, mostly the Indian casinos. I've never played in any casino where people were allowed to use their cell phone during a hand. I thought that was the case everywhere.
That PLO hand is the most damning evidence in this whole thing. HOW tf would he know only two cards are being picked up by the RFID?? There’s no way he didn’t know what was happening
Doug look at 50 to 54 seconds as Postle looks down JK looks away at the same time as if he knows at that point in time Mike is cheating and his reaction is to look away
Everyone at Stones is a suspect. The announcers body language does display discomfort. He looks away, gulps and is rubbing his arm. What is the Host stressed out about. The only way to clear the Staff at Stones is to have a retired Police Detective/3rd party criminal investigator conduct the investigation.
So why is Mike desperately spreading cards he CAN see, namely his own? He should be trying to get the other players cards read. It's March1, 2022. Whatever happened to Mike?
When the game changed to PLO they didn't change the card reading program to read the 4 cards. The card reader was still on regular holdem reading only two cards. By spreading the 4 cards out on the felt he's signaling to his "inside" help that they are on PLO and not hold em.
Unbelievable. Even if he isn't cheating. How can someone be allowed to do so much stuff that could be cheating. How can someone sit on his phone like that while in a hand anyway? I mean, is it allowed to have a calculator? Or lists with stats? Maybe an app that calculates odds? This is not even the player that is most at fault here. It's the entire organisation ,or lack there of, that is the big problem here. This is kinder-garden level.
What I want to know is, how come no other player ever questions why Mike's hand is below the table like 90% of the game and why is he constantly looking downwards?
They other players don’t call out Mike , because they are all invited guests who get paid to be on a fake show ! 🤣 This entire show is REALITY TV . It’s half scripted .
TedKeyboard why would be care if his cards are scanned or not tho, he can see his cards, doesn’t make sense that he was trying to scan his cards if he’s the “only” person that can see them.
About the re-scanning, my theory is that MP gets some kind of range or perhaps win % of his hand compared to others including the board. Information can really be anything, so I wouldn't get stuck on that at the moment. Before he re-scanned his cards, it looked like he was setting them up in a correct order or maybe scanning them differently to see a change in the % (the 2 hole cards shown kind of support that idea, no clue why they play 4 cards, but show only 2).
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Damn that must be rough to only have access to two of your opponents four cards
😂😂
Ha
That was funny!!!!
🤣🤣🤣..
Poor guy
Allowing tournament players access to their cell phones is ridiculous.
It’s fine if we all can see what they’re looking at.
Why can't they use a wifi/internet jammer?
I watched a video where he said new rules are no cell phones. Seems insane to me they allow them. Should also make sure no earpieces as well.
@@ASJacob cuz jammers like that are usually illegal. You could just penalize people :p
These are cash games, not tournaments
He wouldn't have known his cards weren't reading unless he was cheating. This is the smoking gun. Even the commentators didn't understand until a bit later.
That makes total sense.
That's true. How would he know his card weren't reading? Why keep re scanning his cards if he knew they weren't reading? Something fishy going on.
Right.he should have no interest in the chip readers unless their telling him it's not working for the audience.and they wouldn't do that,they would stop the game and fix the reader to resume play.hes a straight cheater, pathetic
This isnt cheating, this is straight up theft
I was thinking the same thing.
Mike should sue Stones for the EV, he lost in this hand by only knowing two of his opponents cards.
Lol
He actually won the hand…
@@fredrickkenley674 But he had less EV than if he saw all 4 cards
There was a time when a guy like this would have simply, permanently disappeared.
Ah the good old days.
back when the mafia ran things. Sadly government and corporations took over
When? That's an odd thing to say. In the old days of saloons they'd kill a man right then and there or they'd duel. You wouldn't dare cheat in a game with mobsters, unless you're a fool. Then you may end up dead but I would think that a cheater would be killed so everybody knows that if you cheat the mob you die.
@@ritchieaustin5451 You mean the government are the new mafias?
@@tommyscott9085 they took up most of the rackets the mafia had, or at least replaced them with companies willing to give massive amounts on income tax.
I can’t wait til this guy’s day of reckoning arrives.
Preach
I would say it already has. Dude can't step foot in a poker room again. Players will break the table if he sits down. I would call him on his shit and let rest of the table know. His punishment is only going tp get worse from here.
@@sh0cktim3 It will blow over. Chris ferguson stole literally thousands more than this guy has, and he walks the floors of the rio with ease and even won player of the year. There is no justice in the world.
stefan williams
Jesus Ferguson was a semi-celebrity. He can get away with a lot more than an average dingleberry.
We don't know Ferguson's involvement exactly except Matisow saying he wasn't really to blame except for letting criminals run his company. And he worked hard to get every person paid and succeeded. That is much different (I hope) then what this dude is doing which is stealing intentionally.
"Now Mike is in genuinely tough spot because his opponent COULD have him beat, and he DOESN'T KNOW!!" Yea, welcome to the real world, Mike ;D That's how it is for the rest of us mortals...
The fact he sued for defamation is just an incredible slap to the victims.
Ironically, two of them filed anti-SLAPP suits and he was ordered to pay $27k as a judgement each time. Also he later filed for unintentional bankruptcy.
I mean I’m not defending him but because they weren’t able to legally prove he was cheating, his only real move to feign innocence was to counter sue for defamation. What bothers me the most is how we all focus on postle but what ever happened to those others who orchestrated this.
Right after the hand he walks into the commentary booth and asks "why weren't the cards scanning??" how did he know it wasn't scanning right?? 2x proof of his odd behavior around the cards not being scanned
No way ? He did that ? LOL what an uber donk
Clip?
i'd love a source for this.
Why is any poker player allowed to have his phone between his legs?
Because the event is broadcasted on delay. Someone or some people must have gone through some trouble to pull off this scam.
It could be "her" either. (I'm just throwing that out there as an opening for the jokes about women and things between their legs)
@@John-ro1iv hmm. You seemed to have missed the plot entirely. Where are the jokes? In your mind, I guess.
@@John-ro1iv Michael Obama
@@biggiesmartypants delay or not... why are phones allowed?
Theres more to this hand, he goes in the back immediately after and asks the commentator why the cards weren't reading properly. prompting the question, how did he know they weren't being registered in real time.
CJ Parsons he’s a fucking scumbag
How do you know this?
yeah lolz this is the best part , lil sad doug miss that. But yolo
The hands are on a 30 minute delay. He went into the booth 45 minutes after the hand, so if he was watching the live stream he would of seen what happened. He did seem concerned though that the card reader was acting up. It's still all very fishy
@rj doggman trust me the commentary is done on a 30 minute delay. I'm not gonna argue go look it up
I kinda hate that it' coming to an end because this is some of the greatest Doug Polk poker content to date.
Sammy 💯 it truly is. Doug has moved to a new level with "Postle" hands.
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Oh Doug hates it too
He says he's excellent at reading his opponents. How does he do this when he's constantly looks at his balls?
Way of the Dog MHDogman he’s endowed with a pair of magic 8 balls?
@@clarewillison9379 He wags his ass and gets a "Yes - definitely" when he needs to know if a bet is good. :D
Because that's where the reading happens. ;)
He rubs them for good luck.
Phone* ;)
How about no phones at the table? See how “Godly” he is after that
Exactly -- They should make it a rule that phones etc. are not used at the table -- IF you pull the phone out your out of the tournament.
JDFan01 bingo. Exactly
I thought in the other video he said they made that rule but don’t enforce it. I could be wrong.
Always Bolt the Bird then I would enforce it especially with these high stakes.
All phones clear on the table.
Lol, how does he even know they are not showing, unless he's watching? He really just ultimately told on himself.
Announcer (AFTER the turn): "Is this a PLO hand?"
Now that's some quality announcing.
Also they couldn't identify the full house when the 10-4 is staring them in the face.
can you imagine sitting down to watch a basketball game, only to find out in the 5th inning, it's baseball!
This has to be the smoking gun, he shouldn't even know his cards haven't scanned 😂
This guy is brazen but he knows the casino can't prove a thing based on the surveillance footage alone.
@Viktor Blomstergren Alrighty then 👍
@@nikkichockawonga the casino can ban any player for any reason, even no reason at all. they dont really need proof.
I want to know why they let people have their phones in their laps. Is everyone else just scared they will get caught, or they just don't want to cheat, or Mike gets away with it because he knows the cameras can't see what is on his phone screen....
dj fergal Sharky it’s not a smoking gun it’s a forest 🔥
This has got to be one of the greatest pieces of evidence ever. Absolutely insane. He needs to be arrested and thrown in jail.
Nothing he did was against the law. The situation is currently in the civil court system, and Postle just filed a motion to avoid involuntary bankruptcy.
@@kh2freek yeah just extremely unethical and no one would feel sorry for him if a bunch of players took him in the parking lot and broke his legs.
Throw him in jail for what, champ? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@sludge8506 Fraud
@@HA-me3ed Yeah, this is a peculiar case.
There’s really no doubt that he was cheating somehow. But the details and the proof are foggy.
Always thought this error in the stream was intentional by the room because they were suspicious of him and this was their way of figuring him out
no way, surely whoever controls the stream format was in it w/ Postle
@@ts4gv Not necessarily. If he has a hidden camera in the TV gallery facing their monitor - that'd do it
I'm a little new to poker, why are phones allowed at the tables? Maybe they could follow the rules set by the WSOP regarding communication & approved electronic devices.
because the game isnt aired live. it has to be someone connected to the cameras that is watching them live.
@@itstheotherwhitemeat Ohh. Who's his accomplice?
@@matth3002 they never seem to mention who that person could be . i never heard a name anyway.
Justin kuraitis. Both scumbags
@@Lukas-ip1qc theres a 30 minute delay usually sometimes an hour
Thank you Doug for Polking around and getting the bad guys
Aaaaaah ha ha
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Oh, you substituted "Polk" for "poke." I see what you did there. Your creativity is certainly unrivaled, my friend.
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Thank you Doug for continuing to shine light on this. Very greatful for you and Joey.
What light? What proof did he reveal?
I wish they would have gotten the win rate data and went through all the film before they went public. Invite him to the next stream and nail him in the act. That would have been awesome!
Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm sure well meaning people like Joey and Doug now realise that a sting would have been the right way to actually get solid evidence on him.
They've gotten a lot of information from people just looking through hours of live feeds. I believe this hand was actually caught by someone other than Joey or Doug.
There will be no sentence, unless from a plea bargain. Cheating will be next to impossible to prove in a court of law. Justice system does not work on poker logic or probabilities. That's why they should have kept a lid on it until some wiretapping or other evidence incriminated them.
lochyes I guess there is a 20M dollar class action law suit filed. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
@@bakermob29 Yeah, hope they win and as a European, I don't really have the required in depth understanding of the American legal system. In my country tho, going to court for something like this, would be a fool's errand, even if clearly in the right morally. One would basically only do it out of principle, since we don't have a system of punitive damages.
I hate seeing things like this, I'm glad you are out there exposing criminals like this. Postle should be in jail and the players should be refunded.
Jail ? Over a poker game? Thats like the wild west man lol.
@@javiercuevas4484 I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the guy, but cheating in poker is effectively just theft.
@@javiercuevas4484 yes jail. It is theft by fraud. As basic as it gets.
@@javiercuevas4484 Cheating in a game that involves money is literally fraud
@@javiercuevas4484how do people like you exist
New rule: no electronic devices of any kind, not even a wrist watch. Wish it didn't have to be that way...
THIS! Why is he allowed to look at his phone when involved in a hand?????
Postle gets demoted from
Best poker player of all time.
To the dumbest criminal of all time.
It's not dumb if you get away with it, and he did.
There is just no way he isn’t connected to the card readers. His world is about to come crumbling down. You never know it may not have been his idea to run the cheat. Could be a Stones employee who confronted him about doing it. Either way his world is going to crash and burn.
ResDogFishing some people still have doubts about that lol?
The best part about this scam is that it’s so obvious that it became hilarious.
Vanessa said that directly behind the banner behind the table is where the Poker Director Justin would sit, and she would often see him talking into a mic on his cufflink.
the hand where HE TELLS another player that HIS CARDS WEREN'T READ by the reader says it all. how could he POSSIBLY know that?!! unless someone told him in real time.
They've directly linked an employee named Taylor Smith with Postle's godmode. When Taylor had to leave town for a week Postle suddenly played normal.
I think Mike is setup by some organizers of these events. He'll eventually make thier names if interrogated... I think he reads the RFIDs data with hat and phone for results, or are involved in a way. Plus the signaling with the hand on the head... clearly somebody is on the other side helping. To hard to pull a clean cheating like this just by one guy alone.
@VictoryRoad04 They say 1 or 2 people. Could be a 3 way
"Mike can't call with bottom pair here."
*"OoooOOoo, yeah?!"*
lol more like "OOOOoooOOOOO YeAhhh? Haeh HAEH HAEH HAEH HAEH!!"
Of course he can unless he has a overpair to the board then he's so good to get away! wow such skills
Matthew Sawczyn he had a 10 and 4 he flopped two pair
@@Noname23489 It's true, but the commentator didn't know that at the time. He probably wasn't in on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're told to treat him like the favorite in their analysis
Matthew Sawczyn either way the dude is a cheater
My theory: It's as simple as tapping into the signal.
When the table scans your cards, the signal sent to the display can be tapped into/intercepted. With the device Mike has, which may not be a phone, it taps into the signal and can read every card that is being scanned in just like the Display.
It's possible that the only reason Mike looks like he's really thinking could be because his device does not eliminate those who fold, therefore, he has to do the process of elimination himself and hope that his hand can beat every hand at the table. In this clip, the "frustration" in the end was just an act. How do I know? Because look at it this way: If Mike knew Steve's hand the entire time, he would have no reason to look down at his device. Coincidentally, during that 1v1 Mike didn't look down not once. When the river was revealed, he knew he had the winning hand, therefore showing a "frustrated" act as if he didn't know what to do, but without hesitating calls the hand. Just like anyone who pretends they have a weak hand, in the end as soon as the other bets you call it/raise without hesitating because you know without a doubt you have the winning hand (whether it be pocket Aces and so on)
He looks at his crotch at the beginning of the hand and when the 4 cards aren't scanning he tries to re-scan them and moves them around vigorously and looks down again, then he gives up on the crotch check and plays him knowing he has a6 of clubs and it is why he is hesitant to call his rover bet cause he might have aces though not likely since he didnt 3 bet pre
You gotta understand everytime you cheat on your phone it conveys information at the poker table.
They must investigate n put him to jail.
civil lawsuit coming up.We know he has the money to pay too.
Folsom Prison is only 10min from the Casino
On the matusow podcast he said he doesn't. Maybe less than $15k. Gamblers are notoriously bad or splashy with money. $250k in the pocket $235k spent and gone
Let's hope he has equity in a house or something he can sell and pay these people back. Knowing degens I doubt it. I would like to see him vs Ivey heads-up in the World Championship of Angle Shooters and Advantage Players
He needs to be boot stomped in the parking lot.
There were days when POS like this would be risking his life.
Wow trying to rescan your cards, this is straight criminal activity
Why rescan your cards?
It’s almost like he knows that it didn’t scan right, but how did he know something went wrong? Oh yeah, I forgot he’s a god.
@@blakejohnson4042 It's exactly like he knows all the cards didn't scan.
I don’t get it tho, what would him re scanning the cards do to benefit him?
@@liamjahdaiPossibly to check if re scanning fixed the error?
@@liamjahdai He's confused because the system isn't picking up all four cards, only two, so he tries to scan them again.
At 3:30 he is signaling the commentators and showing them that there are 4 cards because they only read two. He is not alone in this...
NOT ONE PERSON WAS EVER THINKING TO ASK" MIKE, WTF ARE YOU LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE ALL THE TIME FOR "
Take your caps lock off FFS.
@@Tehui1974 FFS SHUT IT..... ROOKIE....
@@jonrajsl291 rookie? You're the one typing like my grand mother when she turned on a computer for the first time.
@@Nebraska60 THATS YOUR BEST AFTER A WEEK OF PONDERING..... COMICAL.......🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jonrajsl291 no grandma, everyone doesn't see your comment when you post it. People only see it when they scroll through the comments.
They need to install rules like I had in school: Keep your hands above the table at all times.
This randomly popped on my feed. Can’t say I understand the games at all. But I know a phone shouldn’t be allowed while at a tournament. Lol
His continual spreading of the cards was for two reasons. One, to try to get them to scan. But most importantly, two. He was signalling to the booth that they were announcing the wrong game. The announcer picked up on it, then switches gears into damage control mode.
100% he had insiders telling him what to do .. his constant use of his cap is the reason .. he gets info signals on it .. its an old trick cap technology .. its so obvious
Facts the commentators are in on it at least 1 of em…I jus watched another video where he played 5,4o and I swear it seemed like da they was slick tellin him to bet but hey I could be wrong 🤷🏽♂️
and how does Mike know that the cards didn't scan correctly? He did it multiple times butnobody told him that the cards didn't scan correctly the first time.
@@SprezzaturaLifestyle that’s the point. His phone. That’s the whole cheating scandal, his phone and inside people
For me that is the most undeniable piece of evidence because if he was unaware that the cards hadn't picked up why would he put so much effort into getting them to scan unless somehow he knew that 2 of the cards hadn't scanned. Another thing I found interesting is that he seemed to be putting more effort into trying to scan 2 of his cards as opposed to only trying to scan all 4 of them. Good video Doug
This commentating is hilarious. The guy is in on it.
Yeah that fake ass douche announcer i cant wait til he gets locked up too
I agree. Seem like that announcer is trying to let him know.
100%
Omg, you actually might be right. The commentator WAS acting strangely.
The commentating felt off, but I can't pinpoint anything specifically.
Allowing them to have phones is absurd. Also, he’s definitely not working alone…
he is working alone. he paid a hacker and programmer to write a phone app. if he was working alone he could get various customised vibrating ringtones for plays so he wouldnt need to look down
Why did no one at the table question what he is looking at on his lap?
Hard to soul read when you can't see all four hole cards.
You misspelled "hole read." LMAO
I can't believe how much I've watched this shit casino as of late.
Doesn't it make you want to go play there?
Yup
I agree! 🤦🏽♂️
This one tells the best story so far, Doug! Good find!
This hand has been common knowledge for a few days now. But ye it’s pretty damning along with about another 500 hands
For any live broadcast events and RFID identified cards, there should be no phones, no cameras, no electronics, metal detectors and full cavity search.
In chess tournaments you cannot have cell phones with you at all. They even have metal detectors for that. And if in some tournaments you are allowed to have phones with you... They have to be switched off. If your phone gets a text or rings... You get immediate loss! With chess programs we have now you can have stockfish program and beat everyone there is. Sometimes there are some cases with someone watching games, checking moves with computer and whispering to earpiece with Bluetooth for example. I don't play poker but I like games in general and I play chess and all these issues are interest of me.
He wins even without seeing all cards, he is a GOD!
Being able to see half their cards is still a huge advantage!
yeah, it make it a little harder to make the choice also because he knew he had the A.
But he is used to see 100% of his opponent's cards. I would be upset as well haha 😂
Yea it is but that’s not really the point that Doug is making here
whats insane is how tilted he gets from being unable to soul read a single hand. Like he cant just let a few slide every now and then.
@@oscarinio He knew he had an ace but possibly a ten also but in Postle's own words he "called just in case. "
I like how you say "lap" and Joey says "crotch." Taking the high road! Either way, Postle loves staring at his junk.
''why wont you grow''
Mike doesn't do anything without consulting his reproductive Stones.
How about no phones, no hats, no sunglasses, or no “props” of any kind at the table! 😉
RAW Poker Series 1…
I didn’t believe it until this footage came out! The constant movement of the cards across the reader is the smoking gun in my opinion.
watching him trying to make the cards register is the most damning evidence I've seen. It is so obvious and there is no excuse for why he would be doing it.
It was like banging on a remote control attempting to make it work
Nice job explaining this. Thanks. Could his name 'SMFC' have anything to do with this? "Show Me Four Cards?" Would be interesting to know when his name was changed?
Andrew V SMFC
Scanning
My
Fucking
Crotch
Lol to both of you! Haha! 😆😂😂😄 You guys made my day
@@coyotes16 lol! 😆😆😂
Michael Knight glad I could help! 🤪
"Serial Mother Fucking Cheater"
You should put this together with the vid of Postle going into the booth and ASKING about the readers being wrong, specifically about this hand. It's pretty damning.
Why would anyone do that. Thats borderline a confession no?
If he was cheating, he's not very smooth at cheating. There are too many obvious flaws in his cheating.
If he wasn't cheating, his table demeanor and decision making doesn't resemble any great player in poker history. He's one awkward poker genius.
awkward is typically a trait of genius. people who operate on another plane usually don't relate well to others.
If he was cheating? 😂
Unless he was cheating how would he know that the cards aren't reading? Not like that is something they would announce at the table.
The allegations are that he is fed the card information, if the cards aren't being read, then the conspirators (or stream feed) can't inform him of the other players cards..?
@@Wi11yBoy Yes. The thing is he wouldn't KNOW they weren't being read unless he was being fed the information. Him doing that is a giveaway.
Any casino I go to in Louisiana “only places I’ve traveled” you have to keep your phone above the rail so people can see what you are doing And they will kick you out if you put it under the rail after a warning or two. Not sure if it is like that in other states; it should be.
Here too (Finland). But its allso good ethics.
Yea, kind of absurd to even be able to use your phone during a hand, or any electronics for that matter
Here in the UK you can only be on your phone when NOT in a hand and as other people said above the rail at all times. If Stones is such a legit club why don’t they insist on this rule too?
I've been told the same thing at every casino I've ever played at.
Washington doesnt let you have your phone out at all.
But they do appreciate counting (no bull shit) had a buddy at the table say "i lost the count" and the dealer tell me to tell him. "+4" played another hour thinking someone must be coming to "have a talk with me" soon. Never happened.
Maybe cause i only left up 80 bucks.
Wow, the commentators even sound worried for Mike at first. It's a scam.
Tim Burnett yea there in on it splitting the winning I bet this is crazy how they think they can get away with this
His brother is a commentator and getting a cut
Yeah Mikeis working for the Casino and they are robbing these players blind....
eeeasily have the titling going straight to his phone
And now we know.
Honestly if he is cheating he needs to worry for his safety.
Mike Dupree yes because it’s the 1940s and someone is going to hurt him or kill him because he cheated in a poker game, that’s the stupidest comment I’ve ever read
Rapido20 clearly you don’t live in reality. sketchy things happen even today my friend. legs and fingers still get broken even though he may not get killed. depends on who’s in the game and also who their backers are.
Michael Brown this is so dumb, you’re leaving in fantasy, this is isn’t an 80s mob movie, nobody cares about a lame poker game like to go to jail because someone cheated, I bet you voted for trump
@Rapido20 wouldn’t have to be the 40s the 90s would do, but yes I agree, not a thing would happen to him physically now.
I don't get why the just don't ban phones at the table or just snatch his phone during the hand and see what he's looking at ....
Was giving him the benefit of the doubt till this and his hitting top pair and folding on the turn against 999 yesterday. Your observations are much better thought out than everybody else posting video.
Thanks
Appreciate the honesty, but did it really take you that long to catch on? I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt at first, as well, mainly because that's the morally correct approach to take in this type of scenario. However, the cheating was so blatant and obvious that those "benefits" turned to "doubts" almost immediately. Perhaps you just hadn't seen some of the more flagrant examples of cheating until recently, so I'll just take the benefit of the doubt I had set aside for Postle and give it to you instead.
This, if nothing else, is HARD irrefutable evidence. Why is he trying to rescan his cards? How the hell would he even know that his cards aren't appearing on stream? Super user confirmed!!!
His neighbor did the same thing .. Look.. Also why would mike Care if his cards are registering or not ? Why would he Care if he's cheating .. Its the other people's cards he needs to scan not his own
Oh that's so true, damn I saw that footage and never even thought of that. There must be lots more little gems like this
Why are the players allowed to go on their phones during games in the first place?
Derek Chan because people are obsessed with their phones and if one room bans it they’ll go to a competing room that doesn’t
@@ReedP And so here we are.
I'm just amazed that if so many people actually suspected Mike of cheating, why would they even allow him to play another game of cards, regardless if it was for cash or tournament? he should be black listed and never invited to another game. Apparently the other players are just fine with it continuing as it is.
0:47 Could it be more obvious what he's doing?
I noticed he kept running them over the scanner like that, too. Almost as if he was getting messages saying, "I only see 2." "Try it again." ""Try it with each one individually."
HE IS SIGNALING TO A PERSON THAT HE CAN ONLY SEE TWO CARDS AND TO FIX THE READER.
Agree. Why fan your cards out in that way and then run each one individually over the scanner. Someone at Stones Live is definitely in on this scam as well as Postle. Convict Postle and the house of cards will crumble when he squeals like the pig that he is. The only people I feel bad by all of this are the players who got scammed by Postle and his daughter. Postle is a low life POS and I hope he gets what's coming to him in the end. At the very least he won't be trusted on any poker table he joins from here on out.
@@beanshady Scammed by Postle and his daughter LOL Haha
@@matthewwrightstone1431 Oops LOL .. that sentence wasn't worded quite right was it. I mean to say i felt bad for his daughter too of course :D
Interesting how sad and nervous Justin gets on the river when he thinks Postle is about to lose a big pot.
Holy shit, can we just arrest him already? Poor Casey, she must feel so stupid....all those streams.
1:40 "steve pops the nut flush draw" I know the meaning of each of those words individually, but it seems to me like she's having a stroke.
great stuff like always Doug but here's the thing. If players, staff, and representatives of Stones Live are not willing to confront Postle and challenge him to play without having his phone on his lap, they're in on it.
I wouldn't sit for longer than 30 mins before telling Postle off on his shady attitude at the table. Common sense guys c'mon...
This is the most convincing individual hand I've seen so far. It's so so clear he is trying to re-scan those cards, but he should have no idea at all there there's a scanning/display issue.
And apparently went into the booth after to ask why only 2 cards were showing. WTF.
I'm not a violent guy but I kind of like the old school idea of cutting someone's hands off for stealing
A bit hardcore to go full sharia on him. I like the idea of strapping him to a bed, dose him with 400 ug of LSD and pulling the saw out as a scare only. That shit would be punishment enough... And a jail sentence after that.
Just give him a very stern talking to, then get him to promise to not do that again
Looks like Stones and/or someone at that organization is totally in on it.
I agree
@A Round Orifice in Nothingness I heard someone who uses hindsight to give the impression they are intelligent also enjoys the taste of penis. Is this true?
In my poker club in London, no phones allowed, and if it rings, or a message comes, the whole table pauses until that person is finished, or left the table. If someone is cheating when no phones are allowed, then it’s not the cheater who we blame!!
Cell phones should not be allowed at the table.
Agreed ^
in mike apostle's honour you should do a video and review the biggest poker cheating scandals in the last 30 years
1:23 He looks down at J4 and two other things that aren't cards.
Mike is certainly done ✅. Who would play with him anywhere from here on out knowing he is a scam artist.
You have no idea how happy I am to see this video. I am late to all of this and saw my first video covering him only a few days ago, with no follow up videos.
There is something enjoyable about watching a cheater/scammer get his due.
Why do they allow any electronics at the table? They don't let the average person use any electronics in Vegas
They actually kinda do ... Just look at this year's scandal
I WANT HIM IN JAIL YO WTFFFFFFF, DOUG U R THE MAN THO
He had 2 pair on the flop and made a full h on the turn. So what is the big deal ? Comahhha (omaha hi poker) is a totally different game then holdem poker. Omaha has 16,432 starting hand combinations if we ignore the suits. If we'd include the suits, there would be 270,725 possible combinations for your four hole cards in Omaha poker.
This is compared to only 169 starting hands in Texas Hold'em, or 2,652 if we include the suits.
In prison, he'll be the pie.
Mmmmm Postle pie
Don't know about a God, but he'll certainly be heavenly in prison!
Yeah, like the pie Jim fucked in the American Pie movie.
After this is over, he won't have option of playing anywhere. But phones shouldn't be allowed at table for sure
Totally. I play in southern california, mostly the Indian casinos. I've never played in any casino where people were allowed to use their cell phone during a hand. I thought that was the case everywhere.
Polk is by far the best foresight story teller going. He's always right, always knows what's going to happen next. What a legend 🤓
That PLO hand is the most damning evidence in this whole thing. HOW tf would he know only two cards are being picked up by the RFID?? There’s no way he didn’t know what was happening
That's it no more "allegedly" this guy is a stone cold cheat
Doug look at 50 to 54 seconds as Postle looks down JK looks away at the same time as if he knows at that point in time Mike is cheating and his reaction is to look away
I feel like there's enough evidence blatant enough to prove his cheating without the need for adding conjecture like this.
Everyone at Stones is a suspect. The announcers body language does display discomfort. He looks away, gulps and is rubbing his arm. What is the Host stressed out about. The only way to clear the Staff at Stones is to have a retired Police Detective/3rd party criminal investigator conduct the investigation.
Wife in the background saying something like: You need to stop watching Joey and dough bla bla bla
Me shouting: Quiet, I cant hear the new vid
So why is Mike desperately spreading cards he CAN see, namely his own?
He should be trying to get the other players cards read.
It's March1, 2022. Whatever happened to Mike?
When the game changed to PLO they didn't change the card reading program to read the 4 cards. The card reader was still on regular holdem reading only two cards. By spreading the 4 cards out on the felt he's signaling to his "inside" help that they are on PLO and not hold em.
@@jerryg9061 that is a good answer ty
Unbelievable. Even if he isn't cheating. How can someone be allowed to do so much stuff that could be cheating. How can someone sit on his phone like that while in a hand anyway? I mean, is it allowed to have a calculator? Or lists with stats? Maybe an app that calculates odds? This is not even the player that is most at fault here. It's the entire organisation ,or lack there of, that is the big problem here. This is kinder-garden level.
What I want to know is, how come no other player ever questions why Mike's hand is below the table like 90% of the game and why is he constantly looking downwards?
They other players don’t call out Mike , because they are all invited guests who get paid to be on a fake show ! 🤣
This entire show is REALITY TV .
It’s half scripted .
Stone are colluding, it seems obvious, but the focus is only on the player.
Why is he scanning own cards ? He should ask opponent to scan the cards again
they need to make a rule no cellphones at all period ...
Stones is in on it
do you really have to follow up "period" with three more periods? 😆
It's so frustrating this situation was never properly resolved
Props for continuing to churn out content everyday. Can't be easy.
Mike had the third nuts. Why wouldn't he call down his short-stacked opponent?
ckaz007 exactly. Clearly some folks don’t know how to play poker, and will never be able to understand how someone can outsmart them.
@@knowledg333 seriously, did you watch the video and listen to what was being said? Clearly some folks don't know how to absorb information.
"I think he has 4 cards" how can the commentators not know what game they're playing!?
TedKeyboard I think they were playing dealers choice orbit
Because they are dog shit commentators.
The commentators are on a 30 minute delay, but none of you idiots ever bothered to pick up on that, thru all these videos.
@@TheEnd-eg6wq 😂...yep!
TedKeyboard why would be care if his cards are scanned or not tho, he can see his cards, doesn’t make sense that he was trying to scan his cards if he’s the “only” person that can see them.
About the re-scanning, my theory is that MP gets some kind of range or perhaps win % of his hand compared to others including the board. Information can really be anything, so I wouldn't get stuck on that at the moment.
Before he re-scanned his cards, it looked like he was setting them up in a correct order or maybe scanning them differently to see a change in the % (the 2 hole cards shown kind of support that idea, no clue why they play 4 cards, but show only 2).
Technically he is EXCELLENT in reading his opponents.