How To Beat A Poker Player Who Has GOD MODE
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Mike Postle can allegedly see his opponents' cards when he's playing on the live streamed cash games at Stones Live Poker. However, there are some interesting strategic adaptations that come into play when you suspect that your opponent is cheating you. "Hart Banson" makes a sick call against Postle, who raises further suspicion in the investigation by reacting a little too early.
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beating a guy who knows exactly what you have, what a beast
"I'm calling you. What have you got?"
"Ace of diamonds, jack of spades, nine of hearts, four of clubs and two of diamonds."
"Take it. I thought you were bluffing."
- Dialogue from Funny Girl
This is why you shouldn't take that kind of risks lol, especially in lower or micro stakes you got a lot of gamblers or "calling stations" that will shove with anything, so even if you pretend to have a superstrong hand it's never a guarantee it will kick your opponent out of the hand, not even if he has nothing.
im sure this guy is pro, young play big money and he look at the opponent tell.
next level tech
I always notice with the charts where they explain this guy as cheating they compare it to average high stakes players instead of players overall, esp players at the same stakes
I've also seen charts saying anything from 124bb-1000+bb/100h ..so who knows
Also we have to PROVE he's cheating, not just suspect it.
The first way to prove it is no phones at the table (a rule been in place in socal for decades)
He needs to balance his cheating range.
Lol
Actually he has a very balanced cheating range; I've been editing footage of him all day. He has: 1) hands that are pretty normal that he plays pretty normally. 2) Hands where he has a very weak holding that just happens to be good where he extracts amazing value from the hand that's second best. 3) Hands like this one where his opponent has him beat but on a scary board where opponent must call an enormous river bet with a hand that should never be good. 4) Hands where he has an extremely weak holding that has enough equity against his opponent's exact hand in order to continue profitably, that will then extract value perfectly once made and 5) hands where he has an extremely strong holding that nonetheless always bets more or less exactly what opponent should be willing to call with their own holding on that particular street.
This is a very balanced strategy that allows him to make +EV decisions on every street of every hand except in those spots where the implied odds of moves he could make on later streets outweight the -EV of the decision he's making on the current street.
It seems that unfortunately Mike has given off some strange tells in various hands, not only this one but also in other hands. Of great interest at the moment specifically are the hands where the RFID system either cannot see Mike's cards or mislabels Mike's cards until it becomes clear that Mike might have to show a different hand than the one the graphic says that he has. These hands in my view will reveal the specific mechanism by which Mike gets the information to make these plays, because they represent moments when the show did not go as planned and had to be altered during the broadcast in order to make sense.
@@RaulGroom By a "balanced cheating range" one might also include losing a few hands on purpose, and making purposefully bad river decisions, so that your results aren't quite so massive a statistical anomaly. This is how it's evident he's cheating without seeing the exact mechanism by which he's doing it. His results are SO improbable, especially given his play style, that cheating is actually much more probable than a heater.
He could do a middle-of-the-road cheat, but I'd also recommend he balance his strategy by working in some swindling or even some blackmail from time to time.
Hilarious
This is clearly the range of a guy who wins 90% of his sessions.
When you have poker instincts that have truly never been seen before, you don't need to think about ranges, because your post-flop edge is so massive that you can play any 2 cards profitably.
@@Joel-js2gk lol funny
Is this the greatest hero call of All-Time? Calling an all-in on a guy who can see your hand...LEGEND
Not really, if you believe your opponent already knows your hole cards you can deduce he's trying to get you to fold based off his actions in this hand.
@@Mitjitsu True, but he could also still have you beat a lot of the time
@@WhitePillMan If he had you beat. He'd be making small value bets to get you to call. The only reason in this hand to bet big when he has it. Is when he thinks you know he's cheating.
@@Mitjitsu Ok that makes sense. I still love the call
@@Mitjitsu another chat pro
"Your range is just that one hand."
"the only reason he won is because he called the bet" CHECKMATE!!
Bro the commentator just said at 7:00 goes to the livestream and says " Andrew postle is voting for postle" are they not the same person haha or am I tripping
Andrew Postle is Mike Postle's brother?
@@chriscarlson516 I realised this after watching more of the video ahaha
This river call looks like a soul read, except that there's no soul to read.
brilliant
6:37 "Do you think the stream adds an element to the decision"
Well it's definitely adding an element to SOMEONE's decisions.
and here I thought he said "do you think the cheating adds an element to the decision" ...
"If your opponent knows your hand, then your range is just that one hand. And you have to sometimes call and sometimes fold to keep your opponent guessing." I really like this thought.
honestly the motion of his hands before seeing the JJ is more than enough for me to form an opinion on this
Plot Twist: Alec Torreli had the RFID hack
The sickest part is that the commentators always try to justify what Postle(God) does
They are totally involved in this
I don't know if they are involved in the cheating itself but they are involved in talking him up so that no viewer should be suspicious that he wins or makes ridiculous plays. Might be under some order from Justin to talk him up yet not know why besides "we need a hero".
@@gjchawks17 I haven't ruled out complicity beyond just the one confederate but I do not yet see any evidence that anyone else NECESSARILY knows for certain what is going on. My guess is that this was pitched to the commentators as "we know this guy who always wins, it's crazy, we're going to make a stream about him it'll be great fun" and they went along with it. I think there is evidence that at least some of the people involved suspected Mike was cheating at the very least, but I would not be too surprised at this point to learn that Mike had only one confederate.
It is certainly technically possible that it could have been done with one confederate, and I don't see why you would tell anyone besides the people directly involved.
@@RaulGroom Hey I'm all for catching everyone that was a part of it and even just heard whispers and didn't say anything. I just know that the less people involved the better chance of not getting caught. So in my eyes the commentators aren't in on the cheating itself, just they chose to make the streams always about him. Which makes some of this more sickening. That only one of them ever brought it up and none of them (to my knowledge) have said anything yet.
nah i watched joey's 5 hour stream, and all the announcers reactions make it sound as if they're not in on it. you would never mouth off on a suspicion like that, it's a massive accusation that would blow up the community (as it is now). you'd be fired at best and sued for libel at worst. if you were ACTUALLY in on it, you would justify the plays as strategically smart and not sit there in incredulity saying things like "omg how does he get that read, etc".
Raul Groom Why do you keep using the word confederate? Wtf does any of this have to do with which side of the civil war these guys would have fought for? Ya dummy. 🤣🤣🤣 #NotAsSmartAsWeThinkWeAre
Really good analysis on his arms going up before both cards got showed.
True but he also knows as soon as he gets called he's behind. Plus since he took so long to call with jj he never has an ace or boat.. So it's still surprising to see a call. That being said I do think the dude cheated.
Pretty sick to spot that. Well done
He kinda had 72. Any call he knows he is beat
That's the thing, if you're holding essentially the nut low, you don't care what he calls with, so you don't act the way he did when you get called, you just feel disappointed your bluff didn't work, not entirely shocked and exasperated it didn't. He was shocked he called because opponent has a hand he is basically never supposed to be able to find a call with. The reaction is what makes the difference between being owned like Doug and beaten while trying to cheat like this. Sometimes you run a bluff and it fails. You don't need to know what hand the guy had when it was a stone bluff. You know that as soon as he says call, you lose, and think what went wrong. Maybe you get shocked by what he called with, but not until you see the hand...
Agree with Brennan's comment. You know you're behind and it sucks, but you don't throw your hands up Hellmuth-style unless you already know they called you super light. People would see what they got called with before getting surprised by the call... unless they already know what they got called with...
Postle understands that everything you do at the poker table conveys information.
But he hasn't mastered the finer points.
He's too loosey goosey. At least he isn't eating a sandwich
Really? Does he? Because If he understood these things, maybe he wouldn't be getting called down by pocket jacks on a AAQ rainbow flop lolololol The only thing he understands is losing via bluff, and winning via text.
lol, you a joker man, .... i hate people who cheat
"Maybe he was just surprised his opponent had a hand" lmfao
This shit is HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣’if ur opponent can see ur hand you’re gonna have to call sometimes’ Doug LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
EastbrookGoat OKC it’s true tho. Very GTO call, some of the time.
well yeah because most of the time people dont have much so you know theyre going to be bluffing a lot
yeah, i heard that and snorted my chocolate milk
jack mack 😂😂😂😂😂
The Mike Postle drama has reinvigorated Doug's love of Poker UA-cam
💯💯💯💯💯
Why don’t you call it “Postle hands”?
for fucks sake 😂
Cheating hands? Guess it’s the same thing
?
Because Apostle hands is way better.
“Hart Banson” is actually Taylor Carroll, an awesome live reg, who regularly appears on LATB, Reddit, etc.
hi hart
Taylor swift?
Lol
@@mikehattar8372 yeah he studied on postler and he overbluffs just anyone who appears to have a bluffcatcher. So he fucking reversed on him and called the mofo
im really Glad he called here. Fuck Mike. what a piece of shit!
13:15 nobody gonna talk about the epic rivalry between hart banson and bart hanson
I simply love your humor and digs.
Great video again polk
Notice how he’s always on seat 2. Builds his stack to his left, like building a wall from left side visual towards him. Only has to worry about seat 1, which already has his attention towards the right as all the players and cards are towards that way.
He sits in other seats in different streams.
These commentators are so sure this guy will win every hand and no one questions why?
dumb people, like so often.
they are in on it, getting a small %
Thomas Newton idk so you think these commentators who are earning reasonable money would sell their reputation and dignity for 5%(random number) of his winnings? If they only get paid on the night they commentate that would be like max $5k. Hardly seems worth. Especially since it was one of the commentators who first brought the allegations to light.
I dint think most were in on it, but if they just listened to themselves they could’ve all determined he was cheating, as veronica DID!
Thanks for creating such good content. It's been good becoming a fan - I'm entertained and educated by your work. Kudos and respect.
I love how Doug is doing in depth analysis from the superusers perspective lmao
I think the graphics are wrong! He has Pocket Aces! ...oh, wait...
Lol
lmao
Solid investigative work Vanessa. You should get an emmy
Yaaaasssss gurl, you gettem Nessa!
Two 'Vanessa's working together to take him down, outstanding
If he should get an Emmy, then Joey Ingram deserves a Nobel prize. Doug's... sorry, Vanessa's analyses are great, and I applaud him for doing this, but Joey is the real GOAT investigator.
@@emdiar6588 nobody is arguing joeys part in the investigation. but way to get butthurt about a comment
@@Josh-ye2kw Butt hurt?? Where did you get that impression. I'm saying Doug is great, but Joey has gone beyond the call of duty.
Brilliant stuff Doug. I am really enjoying these recent videos.
bart hanson and "hart banson" seating next to each other xD
Did you know that my poker name is Fart Cranston?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can we just call him iPhone Mike, in a tribute of Iron Mike? He seems to be knocking out his opponents just like Tyson.
At the very bottom of the screen stones has a "problem gambling?" Number.... Maybe they should add a "problem cheating?" Hotline
As if they even care if someone has a problem gambling. The only thing that dumbass egotistical Justin cares about is showing off in his Tesla that he doesn’t even deserve.
Really subtle but good point regarding the “pre-reaction” to the light call on the river. When I’m in those spots and get looked up, it takes me a min to realize what happened with the hand.
your analysis is so thorough. Well done being smart and producing quality stuff. I hope this heads up match happens for you, man.
Doug this is serious Sherlock level deductions
The commentators are true GTO gods as well: „he called the flop so surely on this card he calls the turn“ or „doesn’t want to bet too big, too big of a bet shows weakness“
???
Lol yea the JJ guy would be terrified of a 10% bet instead of an overbet in their weird world
I hadn’t heard that explanation before. You nailed it. It absolutely takes two seconds at least to process everything. Spot on Doug. Keep up the awesome content
That was an amazing analysis. Glad that you are pointing out things that nobody else seems to be noticing
Hart Banson, homie. Totally diff guy.
Jart Danson
Wart Fanson
Doug. That is Taylor Carol. He’s a great player from arizona. They call him the GOAT of the AZ!
Love your channel! Great insight!
This was one of the hands where I feel like his opponent seemed to know exactly what Postle was doing. And by that, I think he may have known Postle was cheating.
That's a solid explanation for the call indeed.
what else would you have meant by that
There’s a chance I did.
@@TaylorWCarroll Hey are you the Taylor Carroll who made that call? Really great call if it was you. And I hope Mike Postle faces jail time, he is a piece of shit
the best part of my day presently is polker-postle hands.
Have you thought about naming it Postler Hands?
Or poser hands*, the algorithms definitely rigged with this guy's gameplay
Impostler Hands
Im here for the whole video, but i really appreciate those tips u give at the middle of the hands too. Thanks keep it up
Spot on takes Doug! These postle videos are hilarious
That hindsight 2020 shirt is fire
I just feel like the commentators know what he's doing here. With their talk an eye brow raise in certain situations they also seem suspect. Just burn the place down.
Almost seem suspect?? They are totally in on it. Just watch the Veronika video on her channel where she says it's all strange what Postle does and this other commentator screaming over her that he is just playing good, super angry with her drawing attention to things wrong with Postle's play.
0:42 "Since he is up against Jacks that may not be terribly hard(to bluff oppo)". This commentator is in on it. He is commentating with the presumption that Postle Knows oppo has JJ..
@@pahakuutti I definitely agree.
well basically the commentators have been witnessing this nonsense for the last year straight. It just took time for the rest of the world to get interested.
@@pahakuutti Wow nice catch.
Great time tell at the end.Good work Doug.
You need to send Postle a thank you card. This is a years worth of content.
Pulling off this play in an isolated spot is very hard. Doing it on a consistent basis like Mike Postle is nearly impossible, unless you know the cards.
But Doug, you were 16 beers deep. Postle is at peak physical awareness !!!
We've reached peak Polk. These Postle videos are Doug's finest work.
This is the first time I laughed out loud at a UA-cam video title. Well done sir. You win the internet for the month of October.
Postle is the GOAT, how does he just always know?? What incredible poker instincts!
You can tell he's also only capable of doing this when feeling the pressure on the big stage, when he's being watched by dozens of fans from home. That's why his results off of the live stream are non-existant.
We are witnessing true greatness before our very eyes!
In all seriousness, I love it and find it absolutely hilarious when he gets heroes by super weak hands that have no business calling. My favourite is the A9 vs A3 hand (a must-watch if you haven't seen it yet.)
Joel link?
@@pokerqAK47 Can't find the clip to the original hand but here's JLittle's reaction
ua-cam.com/video/-hPmOpd_wBs/v-deo.html
Very insightful video, Doug. I'm wondering if Postle is starting to believe he's really that good and has somehow forgotten that he is cheating.
Sick catch on the early reaction. Man the sleuths are working hard on this case and I love it!
More of this S.O.B. Losing please 😂 😂 😂 it made my day amazing
Unfortunately there's not much of it...
The sound on your videos has been pretty low lately Doug. Been having to crank the volume to hear you.
Yes....please upvote this so @douppolk sees it. I thought my phone was fucked
Agreed. I watch on Huawei.
The video stats say it's 12db under UA-cam's normalisation target (approx -14 LUFS). So the original audio would have been mastered at around -26 LUFS which is ridiculously quiet.
The pre-emptive movement of his arms is for me definitive proof. Well spot Douglas
As if it was needed
Keep them videos coming Doug xD
Love you fitness progress Doug! 💪 looking healthy and happy.
''You called with JJ?!''
To be fair, he probably played like that thinking ''It's Apostle, if he shoves he has 42o or some shit''
100% he has sick of postle's shit. At a minimum he recognized he must just be bluffing his ass of constantly whether he thinks he's cheating or not. Nobody wins every hand without a showdown.
Maybe put him on 4♦️2♦️. Tuned a straight flush draw, and lost the fucking plot when he missed on the river.
The thing is, this was a decent call just because Postle's line made no sense. He is basically repping AQ at the worst or pocket queens. Those hands probably dont take that line. He bet way too big on the flop, when he would have had the board crushed and then the river jam just screams please fold.
Brandon Dorsey I was actually thinking the same thing the call doug showed vs him by alec is much tougher because there’s only one ace on board. ive made this exact call before vs spewy opponents.
Agreed, the river jam is essentially saying "I have AQ or QQ and think you have an ace and will call any bet."
But those hands shouldn't bet so big on the flop! That being said, very few, if any hands should be betting that big on the flop. If you do bet big on the flop though, that means you can't bluff as often, meaning you have to have a bigger check-range, which also has to include some traps. AA and AQ would be mandatory traps in that case, and QQ should trap sometimes too.
That said, we're just talking nonsense. When it comes to Mike Postle, the greatest we've ever seen, ranges don't matter. This guy has the best poker instincts of all time, and it's not close. He's able to look right through your soul (through his cock of course) and know what you have. His postflop edge is so massive, he can just make exploitative play after exploitative play and it'll all be +EV.
LOL when I was watching the hand I was thinking to myself - I can remember a particular hero call with JJ... and then you included it yourself 😂 well played Douglas
Honestly the best evidence for cheating so far, good eye! Beyond that, your reaction to the dirty angle shooter calling was genuine, his was in every way contrived and you just made a believer out of me.
Doug Polk Poker HEADS UP.......
MIKE THE MOUTH HAS A 2HR RECORDED INTERVIEW WITH MP TONIGHT!!!!!!!!
Mycroft Holmes whoa. really?
@@TheTree1 that what he said on his twitter.
That's why he didn't slag him off to get the interview.
It says “Hart Banson” not “Bart Hanson”
Please excuse Doug, he is getting old and his eye sight is getting worse
Incorrect. Watch the video again.
Brett Sylvester exactly. It says both. So him saying it doesn’t say Bart Hanson is wrong
13:15 chip count shows Hart Banson and Bart Hanson at the top ?
Some are saying that is Taylor Carroll
Awesome Analysis Polk!
That was a good observation on the premature hand raising before the card exposure. There is a chance that the guy with Jack's announced it before throwing them down, but in any event Apotsle already knew that he had Jacks.
This is pretty much it. He’s definitely cheating. Even if he saw one Jack as it’s being flipped over, it could be JK for straight. Since K and J are both paints, how was he able to tell the other card is a J and not K so quickly?
Chris i mean he is cheating... idk how, but he does.. i dont understand how the rest of plyer keep playing .. for me is ok when i see one rare hand on the table. Anyway in thiscase i dnt care if he surprised on this way because the opponent said “ pocket jj” before he showed them...
“Pretty much it” was like 5 days ago but good comment
finaly someone who beast everyfing!
@6:37 "Do you think the stream add an element to the decision?"
Damn Detective Polk nice eye on that reaction, props to you for this find.. people don't realize how hard it is to find this kind of spots!
Yes! Moar impostleably impostleable polker hands!
I’m sure Postle is spending some of those “winnings” on a good lawyer right about now
These vids are the best 😂😂 I hope u guys get him but I dont want the entertainment to end 🤣
Lmao when the commentor said " do you think the stream adds an element to the situation".
More than you know friend lol.
13:14 Hart Banson & Bart Hanson, surely this is game is a scam. Even the player names are made up.
It was just a typo in the graphics.
@@Antyvas no it wasnt- its a joke
@@GaryMillyz Did you know that my poker name is Fart Cranston?
@@Antyvas I know that I've seen your reply somewhere else on here. So, I guess, yes- yes I do.
@@GaryMillyz I'm trying to get on a Stones live stream with Hart and Bart.
Mike Pos......I’m sorry I don’t know how to spell his last name.
kicktotheliver It's pussy the cheater, I know it's long.
I think he means POS as in piece of shit
There has never been a better time to be a poker fan. This is amazing.
Just saw the end commentary about this guy's reaction - great point!
How is this even Postle'ble!...I'll see my self out
Joke thief
I'll see myself out. That made me laugh
@@MmaSmarty87 Nope, Its just an obv joke, if it was commented before im not surprised at all.
2:03 looked at his lap
this is just some content gold
This was like the Columbo where the guy flinches before the bomb goes off.
IS HE A GOD?
@joeingram1 you, like the rest of us, are just jealous of the natural talents of the greatest poker player we've ever witnessed. This man can soulread every opponent and know exactly what their cards are, simply by staring into his cock.
He is just the best ever. There's no proof of him cheating! He just always KNOWS!
I heard he watches rocky 3 before he plays poker
Great stuff here. Can't get enough. You'll get no objections here. haha!!
"If you're gonna start with a seven duce, ya gotta keep going.... I guess." 😂😂😂
7:53 once again, jacks texted over to postle
Scott Wigglesby yes probably on vibrate 😀
Doug the 🐐
😀😄😃Fully Comprehend the Ownage ...😀😀😂phrase of the day
Laughing so hard it almost overshadowed that
YOU NAILED IT 🔨
i really enjoy watching bart hansons facial expressions in almost every hand
Doug Polk This makes no difference but the JJ guy is Hart Banson. I can’t be sure but I don’t think that’s his real name.
The evidence is clear. Throw this dude in jail already.
This is corroborated by the Stones Live management team. So they need to free up some space in the cells first...
WOW, great point Doug!! Thumbs up
the breakdown of the hand is savage bro!
Don't know if you caught that reaction, or someone from 2+2 in a post but that is a great catch. Well done to you or whomever and way to include it in the video.
I haven't seen anyone mention it on 2+2, I think Doug caught it on his own actually. Pretty impressive
Time stamp?
@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 Let's say 11:00 though it started before that but that's right at the reaction.
@@gjchawks17 - ty - I've watched so much concerning this that I didn't watch all of this one when I asked for a time stamp - if I had, I would have easily been able to locate it, thanks.
Greatest poker player of all time opens up with seven duce off suit
Wrong
Delts coming in Doug, keep up the hard work!!
good job , kept me to the end , bravo