CGC vs PGX : How Does it Effect the Value of Your Book?
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- After buying a collection with PGX books I decided to crack them open, get them cleaned and pressed and, sent off to CGC. I also go over the values of each in the same grade.
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How does opening, cleaning and pressing give you an accurate assessment of one company vs the other? You can't clean and press between the two submissions...you have to submit them as the exact same comic in the exact same condition to understand what the real differences in the grading system are.
100% but a book being cleaned and pressed coming back the same grade as one that wasn't shows the disparity in grading. Regardless at the end of the day the sales data shows where the value lies.
@@VeryGaryComics true but only if there were pressable defects that were removed.
@@VeryGaryComics it shows that CGC has cornered the market. That is all.
If one company grades a uncleaned and unpressed book at a 6.0 and then AFTER a clean and press it comes back from the top tier grading company at the same grade or lower, it shows that the grading for PGX is higher for lower quality books. This means a 9.8 PGX book can have more flaws than a CGC graded 9.8 book, meaning the actual quality of the PGX book is less even though it is graded the same. As a buyer of collectibles, you want to go with a grading company that is harder to get a good grade for and is more critical of flaws in their process so when you pay $$$$ for a graded book you know its going to be worth what you paid. PGX is like the used car dealer and CGC is the Mereces-Benz dealership. Each has its place, but I know which one I trust more.
@@VeryGaryComics actually that’s not all together true. I’ve sent books to CGC. Then had them pressed / cleaned and resubmitted. Received the same grade as before. I’ve sent books to CGC and paid for a press and I know dang well they didn’t press it cause it had the same defects as when I sent it the first time. In any case CGC is still the top dog no matter what anyone says.
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It is true that the community puts a greater value on CGC books than PGX books, mostly because people continue to claim they are better, but what you proved in this video is that the Grades were good. Your statement of a 6.0 to a 6.0 is a huge upgrade is false, its the same, and the fact that the pages got whiter with CGC begs the question of who went easier on the book. Pressings can help increase the grade, but depending upon the other defects, it may not help the grade only allow it to present better. Since both grading companies use different grading criteria, and the nature of grading is subjective, combined with this sample size being very small, nothing can be deduced on the grading front. There are many reasons to use one service over another, but they are mostly individual in nature. PGX cases are so-so at best (even their new ones) but at least the book is sealed with the label to prevent tampering. CGC cases are far nicer and if I am encapsulating for the purpose of re-selling, CGC carrying the higher resale value (regardless of the reason) is a factor. However the cost of grading, especially these more expensive books can make PGX more appealing for personal collections. I have used both services extensively, and this past year have been heavy on the PGX front for my PC books. At the same time I have a big shipment going out to CGC shortly of books I do not anticipate holding . Having said all that, I enjoyed the video and content.
I agree. I think this is probably my most dislikes video of his. I’m not saying he is biased.... but... yeah. Seen a LOT of videos with the same conversation and comparing going on here. Same results. I think people love CGC because of value. That’s it. Comic collectors with little money can use PGX. Why are people so quick to bash? It’s like someone is getting paid... no saying Gary is but I feel a lot do.
@@sirpuss5887 I could not agree more! I send books off to PGX all the time. They are cheaper and Turn around time is faster that CGC and there new cases are nice to. Granted all the books stay in my PC so I’m not worried bout resale value
PGX is also notorious for missing restoration. That’s one of the biggest issues. You can’t trust that their books are actually unrestored. If one of those books had come back purple, that’s a huge loss.
Honestly you’re probably better off not sending it anywhere and just keeping it raw than sending to PGX. You can still present the book fine and it would actually be easier to sell raw than in a PGX slab.
@@AutomaticComics honestly I disagree if i am having books graded for my PC and no intention of ever selling them than how am I better off keeping them Raw? I’ve never had nothing but great experience with pgx when sending my books in and as pointed out in the above video the grades are comparable so only resellers want it in CGC Not PGX. That’s not me
@@Mike_oliver1313 Everyone gets to manage their collection in their own way. So if you want to get your books graded at PGX that’s completely up to you. I just don’t see the point in paying to have you book graded by them when that process actually decreases its value. Even if you don’t want to sell your books today, you might want to in the future. Or you might want to trade with someone. And believe me, as someone that sells books, PGX books are hard to move. Even CBCS books are much harder to move than CGC. So if I’m going to be paying for something, why not pay for the one that gives me the best overall return in the end?
"We're gonna do this all in one take"
>>UA-cam immediately cuts to an ad.
let gary get paid .. let the ads play :)
Premium youtube is a god send. I havent seen an ad in 2 years. I also love the ability to dl UA-cam videos so i can watch them when internet is shit or when im in a no coverage zone (usually at work)
Appalling that PGX puts out a product that can be so easily opened.
None of the old gen cases were all that great.
What's appalling is CGC putting out a new product that can be saddled with newton rings, then touting their superior optics.
It’s also appalling that CGC doesn’t provide grader notes on a huge number of books the fall below 9.8. I realize they are backed up but how much Time would it take to input a sentence to describe the books flaws?
Old CGC cases were worse
More recent PGX cases don't open so easily.
Ive had a harder time opening a bag of chips....
This was really valuable! I watched it a month ago and again today. Clear and great that you packaged all the steps from beginning to end in one video!
Best video of its kind, most are dry and boring, this was clear and concise, great job
Even though this took you months for only a few minutes of video I definitely appreciate it!! Love this video!!
GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS GARY!!!! AWESOME TO SEE THE JUMP IN PRICE, AND AMAZING WORK BY EROD!!!!
Wow dude...
you put the whole process together.... waiting for CGC can take a while...
Really enjoyed this entire video, thank you for the effort.
I think this was my favorite video of yours I've ever seen. Good job!
Yes, it's finally here! Thanks for this Gary! You're the man, man.
Im still watching it, but I wanted to thank you for putting this all in one video!
Gary: "We're gonna do this all in one take."
UA-cam: "Hey you wanna see an ad? Here you go!"
Hahahaha
Now this is the kind of video you should do more often...picking a book from a collection you bought, cleaning and pressing, sending it to CGC, unboxing it when it comes back and give us the numbers $...and I've learned that you don't (or can't) correct a spine that is off kilter...thanks...be safe and keep it comics!
Cool video dude always showing the awesome keys that 1st appearance of the Punisher is always money 💰💰
Great vid! Thanks for putting in the time to do this!
Loved the video Gary. Was happy everything is all in 1 video.
Kudos on your creativity. Thanks for all the effort on this video. Thanks and stay safe.
Fucking yes. A content creater the puts it all in one video..... I fucking love it
First off I just want to say I legit JUST found your channel right now due to this video and I enjoyed it & enjoyed your rundown so I will definitely be subbing. However when it comes to the grading/selling aspect of things, It’s a lot easier to sell a CGC graded book vs selling a PGX book because people just blindly choose “industry standards” I’ve seen PGX grade much harsher in many occasions in the past so I’m not TOO impressed seeing this comparison go the other way. As far as the easily openable case I understand why many might deem that as a bad look however when you really think about it it’s a good thing in the sense of it being handled easier by sellers, retailers etc to send them in for re-grading or whatever the case maybe. If & When I send out books to get graded & encapsulated I do it exclusively for display purposes and because I’m not thinking of flipping it for money so it would make sense for ME to get them graded by a company that really SEALS the case better, but for someone trying to grade the book to flip it I see it as a GOOD thing for the case to open SOMEWHAT easily, but that’s just my humble opinion.
Great work with the content and channel & I look forward to watching more of your work in the near future, blessings & love to YOU and the entire community here.
Thanks for video Gary. I appreciate the effort you put into it and really enjoyed it
I learn something from every video from gary. Great video!
Ha!! Great video!! Love finding those PGX books at Cons and cracking them, good stuff.....
All grading companies make their mistakes. The only reason why everyone uses cgc is the resale value.
100% and if your not planing on reselling them then why pay for a higher price and longer turn around time to have your books graded?
I agree
The labels also matter. Pgx and cbcs have shit labels and pgx cases suck.
@@chickenfkeryay i like cbcs labels
@@Mike_oliver1313 facts
Absolutely love these time lapse vids 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Love the comparison of the two company's. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. Keep it comics.
His comparison holds no weight because he had the comics cleaned before sending them to CGC. If you want to compare do it fairly.
Just watching you look through those original issues is great. It's very nice to hear your comments on their condition and understand a bit more of the avaluation process.
Oh this is perfect. I was talking to my dad this weekend about grading services. Mainly CGC vs CBCS, but we also saw a PGX or two that I'd potentially crack and send into cgc.
Great educational video for any collector not just for the difference between CGC PGX but also the value of cleaning and pressing for key books!!! You made this fun and entertaining!!! Thanks!!!
This is a well-done video, showing the whole process from start to finish. PERFECT.
Yesssss I’m so glad you finally made this video lessgooo!!!
awesome video. loved not having to wait to get results. well done.
Great video like always! What a difference!! Great video to start the day!
PGX still has a long way ahead of them. Meanwhile CBCS seems to be even stricter than CGC recently.
Thats what I hear
Great video as always. I loved this video concept and appreciate the time you put in to deliver a mini adventure.
Great video, and I just realized I only seen CGC Booths at my local cons and no other companies.
Gary getting fancy with the custom labels
At 2:07 Poor PGX quality on its casing. But at 2:46 Before and Aftet at 4:45 looks clean E-Rod, did a great job on the cleaning there looks nice. After watching videos on CGC it seems like a good quality brand.
At 5:48
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Cool video Very Gary, keep up the great work and thank you.
This was a good video. It helps to see these kinds of videos. Great for the hobby.
Great vid. Hope you can do more like this. Still waiting on a cleaning and pressing vid.
Thanks for taking the months to make this video. Awesome
Such a great video for you to showcase you’re experienced opinion towards comics , these are some of the things I come to expect when I watch you videos. Always amazed at you’re honest concern towards prices, conditions & value . As always, great video Gary ...can’t wait for the next one
I’m so glad you uploaded a video of the full thing because I’ve been wanting to do a video like this when I get my first submission sent off
That was a pretty interesting video! Thanks for that experience
I love these videos, the before and after including the CGC return, I know how long this had to take you to put together but believe me, WE APPERCIATE YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow Gary you answer every question I have about graded books thank you
Wow, thanks for this educational video, I did not know anything about PGX.
This is one of my favorite videos you've done. Really enjoyed the comparison.
Everyone needs an Erod in their life.
Thanks for the video, Gary. It is so informative for us newbies of the grading world.
Way to shoot straight with facts Gary. Great vid man.
Crazy how long this one video must’ve taken you super interesting tho thanks for doing this!
I absolutely love these style videos. ERod did an amazing job.
Such an amazing, informative video. If I could like this 10000x I would. Great job Gary.
Was curious about the differences. And this was great info! Thanks for taking the time and sharing this 👍🏻
Great video and awesome job on those cleans and presses! Congrats and Merry Comics... I meant Keep it Christmas!
Solid video Gary. Personally, I’m not a cgc fan I prefer cbcs. I’ve had bad experiences with cgc (customer service/quality), but I understand they do sell for more money.
CBCS >>>> CGC for a myriad reasons. Books for my PC are all CBCS, books I want to sell are CGC because as you stated the market pays more.
This was my favorite video you've done good sir
Love that you put the entire process in the same video. Great stuff brother.
Love the comprehensiveness of the video - cracking open, pressing, back from cgc and the price info.
Love u already did this so we can see the results.
Very cool to see the PGX to CGC comparison !!! Excellent video as usual.
Great video again, Gary. Crazy the difference in grades and workmanship of the plastic cases.
Thoughtfully planned and executed video. Merry Christmas Gary! :)
Thank you for taking the months and time to make this one - great books !
I like how you cracked the PGX cases , LOL . CGC cases look great with the custom labels
Really informative video for every collector.
I salute the work and time you put in this one.
Happy holidays man !
I'm curious if you sent those books back to PGX after the clean and press and another grader looked at them if they would go up, stay the same or down in grade. Greate video. Long time coming. Definitely work the wait.
Very informative video. A question that I wanted to know myself. You knocked it out of the park. Thanks and stay safe!
Enlightening. Love the custom labels. Hint, hint.
Thanks for the real world examples. btw nice books!
This was a great Christmas present for us thanks
Great video....I need to get some books cleaned and pressed.
That is so crazy how easily they popped open. Never getting Pgx to grade my hubby’s comics. Thanks for the informative content Gary.
Props to the MASTER PRESSER!
Always love watching a CGC Amazing Spider-man unboxing.
Nice, Gary! Congrats!
Those books look great Gary! Nice video!!!
ERod did a fantastic job!
Great vid. Thanks for not making me wait! lol
This is great information for getting books graded
Dropping the facts and educating the new folks, myself included. Thanks for added knowledge dude!
Nice Experiment. Thanks for sharing!
This was a very informative video, thanks for making it
nice video gary ... i like you had did the 3 steps back to back ..
Goes back to you get what you pay for..Thanks for the vid Gary.
Thank you for the content. I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas.
Great video, super informative. I'm going to start sending in comics to get graded this year and it's nice to know the difference between the two before I've started.
Good information Gary. Thanks for doing the leg work on this. Appreciate it! ☕💥✝️
Great video Gary and I have been lucky enough to get some slabs and they are from cgc and I won't be trying to get any from cgx.... thanks and as always keep it comics
Perfect timing on this video, recently acquired a xmen 50 PGX 7.5. Gonna get it cracked, pressed, cleaned and submitted to CGC. Really hoping it keeps the grade
Thanks for talking the time to put all these pieces together over a long time period. Solid advice on CGC v PGX.
Great video, nice seeing the difference.
Great video! Love being able to see start to finish all in one watch!
What a great video man! The custom labels look awesome btw.
Very informative! Thank you! Wow on the pressing and cleaning!
thank you for teaching me the different Happy holiday
Very educational, thank you.
I had no idea the PGX slabs were so easy to crack open!
Wow. I was unaware there was such a big difference. Thanks Gary!