Devil May Cry 2 is ACTUALLY That Bad - DMC2 Review
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Devil May Cry 2 is actually as bad as everyone says. Surprise surprise.
This video is part of a series reviewing the Devil May Cry franchise from the perspective of a newcomer who has only played DmC: Devil May Cry and liked it. This Devil May Cry 2 review was recorded on the PS4 Devil May Cry HD Collection.
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Story
4:03 Gameplay
12:05 Bosses
14:35 Positives...? - Ігри
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naw + KH3 is the best KH game at least in terms of combat and boss design since re:mind came out
You have to take into account where things came from and where we went to... back then we could tell every slight little difference the different weapons have different abilities and we could add combos up with upgraded guns and auto lock was never an issue for us
The only GOOD part of this game is how impressive it is that they managed to make the game in, what? Half a year. It had like 6 years in the oven then threw it all out because the original was WORSE than this. The old director got fired and we'll never know who they were. Then the new series director who is still the current director made this, it left a bad taste in even his mouth and he decided to try again with dmc3 and he didn't just break ground with it he shattered the Earth.
Funny thing, when I wanted to buy my first dmc a few years ago, I wanted to get DMC 1, but it wasn't in stock so the shopkeeper offered me DMC 2, without knowing anything about the game, I accepted, in the box it was DMC 3 gold edition (the one with Vergil as a playable character)
I got really lucky that day
Can’t tell if god spared you or if the shop keeper just wanted to troll everyone else in the store
What is the difference between gold and silver edition?
@@dontcry3953 the original release of dmc3 doesn't have vergil as a playable character, doesn't have the a few costumes, doesn't have the option to use gold orbs instead of yellow orbs, the very hard difficulty, and a few more things that dmc3 special edition or gold edition has, it's actually harder to find the original release over the special edition today cuz it's so obviously inferior to the special edition that no one bought it
No kidding.
same thing happened to me with ratchet and clank I wanted ratchet and clank 1 and got ratchet and clank 2 which was super hard to find back then idk why
Imagine if the bosses were to hit you with ads instead of Adds. ''Hey dante I know we're fighting but have you heard of raid shadow legends?''
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lmao Diesel was the sponsor of the game tho. They even put a costume with the word Diesel on it. I thought it was humiliating.
dante: nooo! It's free to play were all gonna die here!!
No, please! Mundus, Argosax, not even Despair Embodied would be that evil.
imagine if they hit you with aids
I had DMC2 described to be by a friend once as "imagine if dante just got off a 15 hour shift and just wanted to go to the store for something he needed for dinner and he got attacked by demons on the way there" and it never made more sense to me than when I tried to play the game myself. Nothing is ever explained as to why its happening and things arent ever given suspense or time to be built up, its really just "dante kills a building then next a giant monkey attacks him then he decides to shoot down a chopper"
Just an average night in Detroit
the thing is, that would be an awesome plot... if the gameplay wasn't complete and utter trash
Vergil’s journey for milk
And as soon as he got to the store he realized he didn’t have enough money
@@Cairo40000He never does
Did you read the enemy description in the menu? They were highly detailed in DMC1 with lore and how they attack.
In DMC2 one enemy description is litteraly "It attacks enemys.".
That it do tho
It ahh it moves yaknow and ahh pretty sure it kills so yeah🤷🏽♂️😂
@@pointlessangle2149 the archer class is really made of archers?
Not how you spell enemies.
to defeat the cyberdemon...
It’s weird how DMC2 has just been cemented as that piece of evidence to support the accidental character arc of Dante growing super depressed after Vergil’s death, which is only remedied after he finds Nero.
I mean, the dmc anime supports that too. And from the dmc5 recap movie, the anime story is more valid than 2.
CthulhuWentBritish So this means that DMC2 is practically worthless in terms of adding to Dante.
@@xxCROMIZOIDxx anime doesn't support that stupid fan theory. It was directed by Kobayashi instead of Itsuno and Kobayashi wanted Dante to resemble more his DMC1 persona (cool/sarcastic/goofball) which was the natural evolution of the character after 1. That's the reason why he especified Langdon to perform a more serious behaivour instead of DMC3 one (curazehh/Rockstar/Manchild). All of this became senseless when they threw up DMC3 Dante again in DMC4 killing all the character development he had in 3 and 1. The saga has 20 years now and there's people who still belives that DMC began with 3...
I use to think Dmc 2 was the end of the series.
@@Made2Slash It was until Capcom retconed it before 5 release.
Infested Chopper is the most memed "bad boss" because barely anyone was willing to play past it to experience the worse ones.
Would anyone be willing to play further than that?
Ya gotta be a madlad to play after that.
Infested Chopper sounds more like something that belongs to the Resident Evil series, not DMC
Bold of you to assume there's a worse boss than infested chopper
@@Sneften I remember a boss that had 3 faces or something like that which took hours of pure utter agony to fight
It was much worse in my opinion
Before DMC 5 came out there were a lot of theories about where this fit on the timeline, with it being at the end being the most popular and evetually true. My personal favorite was that it was actually a weird bad end timeline where Vergil somehow killed Dante in DMC1 and as penance took up his sword and name and tried to fill the role
Different timelines?!?, i just bought all dmc games due to Vergil memes and i just beat dmc 2 and dmc 1 before that, so i guess the next game should be dmc 3?, or maybe the timeline will jump backwards
(And how does the 2013 dmc reboot, affect the story or did it even affect the story/timelime?)
@@soldierorsomething the proper timeline is DMC 3,1,2,4,5. The reboot has nothing to do with the story.
Vergil taking up Dante's role as penace sounds like a cool story.
Lmao
@@soldierorsomething he was joking about it being a different timeline, it is canon but it doesn't matter because nothing happens
Hyve: "Let's see if I can scrape a couple positives about this game?"
Me: Dante's outfit, Dante's outfit, Dante's outfit.
Hyve: "Positives.. positives..."
Me: Dante's outfit.
Hyve: "Uh... Dante's outfit is cool?"
Me: THANK YOU
I swear, DMC2 has THE most wasted costume design for Dante, it really should be an unlockable costume in the other games.
I’m likely a bit late, but you can unlock it on the Nintendo Switch version of DMC3
@@dripsnake44 Really? What difficulty? I own the game on Switch but have been mostly playing through Bloody Palace with freestyle.
@@dripsnake44 That’s DMC 1 Dante without the coat.
It’s at least used well in SMT3
He didn't mention the ONE cool thing about this game: The Majin form.
It's actually so cool, that they implemented it in DMC5
Keep in mind that people saying DMC2's story is the best part of the game is them saying IN COMPARISON to the rest of the game. NOT in comparison to other games.
Nah,the Best part of DMC2 is finishing DMC2 so you can say "i played one of the worst games of all time,and finished it"
@@sgoc9499 steam should have an achievement about half way through to congratulate the player for playing it and one at the end asking if the player is alive still
@@debbiebuttry9783 epic,it's a shame those 2 aren't on PS3.
Nah the best part is the combat let's be real here🗿and not shoot gun simulator I mean,because it's so slow you actually have to be overly creative to get long juggles😂
Ok let's be real, DMC 1 didn't had much of a story either, so I think story wise the comparison is very unnecessary
I really think this game deserves a full-scale remake. It fits so awkwardly into the canon of the DMC series and there’s so much potential being wasted here.
Well considering that DMC2 is somewhat of a mess in development with half of time it was being developed having a different director.
But if we are to fit and stretch DMC2 into the cannon since the story is 3,1, anime series, 2,4,5.
DMC2 is Dante welling over the death of his family that's why he's gloomy the whole game and he isnt as invested in doing jobs, using a false coin toss to help him move forward.
Even in the anime, there's moments where Dante seems to be falling into despair. In the end of DMC2, the "Let's go all the way to hell" line if we put it into this context seemed like he's going to hell to die. Until it's explained in the "Before the Nightmare" novel that he found an open portal leading back to the human world from hell. There's only 2 ways to get to hell and back. A hell gate or Yamato. So this probably gave Dante a bit of hope that Vergil is probably still alive but doesnt count on it.
It would easily be the best one if remade. I actually dont mind this dark and cold Dante. Hopefully they won't take fan criticism too seriously when making the game what it should have been
I can somewhat agree, but honestly the only way for dmc 2 to be good is if it wasn't dmc 2. Everything would have to remade. Characters, enemies, story, locations (too open and not good for combat), gameplay, weapons. If, for example, they remade dmc 1 they would have to update the gameplay, but the locations, bosses, enemies and story (for the most part) could still be reused. What I'm trying to say is that at that point, they might as well just make dmc 6, which I would rather see.
@@antelasic1950 That's a fair point, honestly. I mean, Lucia's alright, but yeah, I guess it'd probably just be better to make a new game with her returning than trying to remake her game from the ground up.
@@goldlight1322 Well as far as I know there is a good chance for her to make a return. There is a prequel novel in which Dante gets fights the demon Balrog (and gets the dmc 5 weapon) with the help of Lucia, so they didn't forget about her. And when someone found references to the planed ladys night dlc in dmc 5, I think it also mentioned Lucia along with Lady and Trish.
Dante in the other games: Wacky woo-hoo pizza man.
Dante in Dmc 2: Dark and brooding hot cheeto boy.
Dante in DMC reboot: FUCK YOU
When I played this game during my DMC series run through. The only thing I enjoyed about this game was the fact EVERYTHING WAS A DEMON. Demon people, check. Demon animals, check. Demon vehicles, check. Demon buildings, yup check. I remember after the Demon Tanks and Helicopter I was like "Wtf is next a Demon Building!?" And wham! Hilariously stupid demon building. I still laugh about how ridiculous this game was. It would have been something I wouldn't dread to play if it wasn't for the torture that is this games, well everything. Oh and the horrible audio/character of discount Heihachi Mishima was hilarious too.
And then in dmc V we finally reach the demon tree
no John, YOU are the demons
@@richardlionerheart1945 Time is truly a revolving disc
It's like it's trying so bad to be Resident Evil but failed
Anyone bring up the convoluted history of DMC 2 or should I?
Just gonna put it anyway. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.
So DMC2's development was started while the original team of DMC1 was working on the localization of DMC1 for american release. Team Little Devil's (the DMC1 developers) had no knowledge of this development until about halfway through. The original director, who to this day remains nameless, had a very inexperienced team who had never taken on a project of this size before and were promising things that they couldn't do. Four months before scheduled release, the original director quit the project and Hediaki Itsuno was hired to take his place. After looking at the what the team had accomplished, he realized that he would be a scapegoat for a failed game because the only working part of the game was the stinger move (which has become a joke due to how ridiculous it looks), so Itsuno basically had around 4 months to create a working game. Due to this the game is very bare bones and feel unfinished and boring. They had to cut many things because they were extremely pressed for time and the team was very novice in making an action game. Itsuno has also directed every DMC game since 2 so take with that what you will.
Hideki kamiyah creator of the
Original 2001 devil may cry .
It's pretty crazy how they let some random anonymous guy be in charge of a sequel. I don't know if the they were so ashamed that they decided to not mention the original director's name or anything about them or the director was ashamed himself and just decided to stay anonymous
I wish they gave another chance to this game, like a remake like they are doing with RE or just put in the trash and make the REAL DMC2
Hideaki Itsuno also publicly stated that his reason for making DMC 3 was that he didn't want to be known as the guy who made DMC 2
daniel spell I know Kamiya was the director for 1 but they took the entire team off the project and I felt that was important to state
"Hitting a switch to open up another door should not ever be the most challenging part of a level"
God of War series
Eh it depends. Sometimes the puzzles are fun and sometimes they're tedious. God of War 2.
Or Zelda
That's not how that works and you know it!
@@Demonboy007 it really is. I only played god of war 1, so I can't speak about the other games, but in god of war 1 the puzzles and the most difficult, and least fun part of the game
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Yep. When GoW1 came out I put it down for literally an entire school year + summer because of that puzzle in that area where Kratos gets a log thrown at him and dies
I have been playing DMC for like 25 years. DMC 1 came out the same day I bought by PS2 so it was the first game I got. DMC2 is the craziest thing ever and to all the new fans I will explain what happened behind the scenes at Capcom which led to this abomination. So lets start, DMC1 came out and it was a huge success, the team that made it and Capcom are very happy so Capcom executives did the obvious thing and moved the team to another project and brought in a new team to make DMC2....a new team made up of ex Capcom arcade devs who for the most part did not like DMC1, they did not like the combat and they detested Dante's style, tone and comedy. Now you know why DMC2 Dante is so serious/stoic compared to DMC1. The new team also did not like the combat so they dumbed everything down but I also suspect they couldn't grasp all the technical work needed to make the game flow well because the original team that made DMC1 had a lot of background in fighting games and the new one didn't. More than halfway through development some Capcom executives realized this game was trash and they removed the director of DMC2 (who to this day remains unknown) and made Itsuno the new director. He did what he could but the game was screwed since it was 6 months from release and Capcom did not allow the release date to be delayed.
At least from this dumpster fire we got DMC3, Capcom really made a great comeback. DMC4 was also good but at this time Capcom wanted COD and Halo sales numbers so they went with the hated reboot thinking it would sell more, it didn't. After the failed reboot they made another comeback and we got the masterpiece that is DMC5.
The reboot didn't TECHNICALLY fail, though. A lot of people actually enjoy it, even some DMC fans. I don't think it works as a DMC game, but on its own it's pretty fantastic.
@@Shiverwar I agree with you to some extent once the 60fps versioon came out but what really damaged it was the developers mainly Tameem Antoniades doing that power point showing "what dmc is not, what dmc is" that stuff really turned all the fans after him
25 years??? The game came out just 21 years ago
@@martylinux7643 nice
What 25 years? Can you count? The first came out 2001...
“Heard Lucia’s campaign is slightly better”
To me, she has the worst boss in the game so I say Dante has it better.....three words:
Invisible Underwater Boss
I hated Dante’s campaign so much and was on the fence about doing hers but this decided it for me
Underwater for dmc 1 and 2 suck ass i hated those missions lmao
I keep forgetting the underwater boss its so bad my brain want to delete it
Based on the couple of missions I played of Lucia and Dante's campaign, I assume she has slightly better storyline cutscenes from the bits she did offscreen that just get explained to Dante in his story. But I don't see why the stories were split in the first place. Dante's story cutscenes feel like Virgil's cutscenes from the subsequent games. But unlike DMC 3, which had Virgil as an unlockable for beating the game, and the other games which had Virgil as a DLC character, we just get Dante with half a story and the other half is in Lucia's story, most likely with the problem of not having a complete story because of how they decided to split it.
@@twinodoom It's been a long while since I've played but I think her story is somewhat better.....I think, again been a long while since I didn't really want to replay it aside from Dante's final boss (specifically the 2nd phase)
Well, now we just gotta wait for the DMC3 review and see how much he's going to praise it
Groisu Yeah the platforming in particular is really not great
@Groisu That one room God that one room and the secret mission associated with that room can go die.
@@KazuoLucas I'm assuming that one room you're referring to is the block room that the final secret mission takes place in.
Honestly it wasn't that bad getting up to the top since I used trickster. Trickster really turns that secret mission into a joke
Groisu 5 is pretty close to perfect lol
@Groisu Half of the enemies in DMC3 are not fun to fight.
"Devil May Cry... Two."
Knuckles: "OHNO."
Devil may cry 3 and knuckles
Featuring Dante from the devil may cry series
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@@idk-gg3lk PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER
Nice review but it seems you only focused on the Normal difficulty of the game, which doesn't really make the game justice, as higher difficulties have different enemy placements and patterns. I'm kind of a seasoned DMC2 player. I've played it in every difficulty, both Dante and Lucia stories, I've mastered the combo system and fought Argosax the Chaos on DMD difficulty and from where I'm standing, the game might be shit in Normal mode but...
... The rest of the game is even shittier.
@Chill Sodaa There is a combo system. It's just shit.
Yeah in other dmc games you get a higher rating by chaining together different attacks and stuff, but in 2 it's pretty much stinger>guns>stinger>guns and so on
They had us in the first have
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@Chill Sodaa the lack of a combat system is how he mastered it.
mechanically, some of the bosses in DMC 2 were really, really bad. but back then it blew my dumb teenage mind with how scary the bosses looked. like for real, they looked intimidating that my palms would sweat fighting them. looking back, DMC2 was the first game I played in the franchise and thankfully so. because playing 1 then 3 made me realize how awesome they were and how utter terrible 2 was
This video makes me look at apples
I have no idea what this means
@@HyveMindsGames pin it then so somone might be able to translate this
@@HyveMindsGames you wouldn't get it
I don't get it 2
I have no idea either. I like looking at apples though.
Legitimately the only thing I enjoyed from this mess was Dante's "Here's your crown." line.
dont forget darius's wierd ass battle cry
Sarcastic Potato honestly yeah. That and dante's design. Wouldn't have minded seeing it again
Magical Musketeers
That line was pretty cool.
The only thing about dmc 2 that I liked other than that was the boss battle where the monster comes out of the skyscraper.
But yea dmc 2 was really bad even though their was some things I liked about it.
Dont forget the way he shot argosax the second form I loved it too
Also the demon with 2 white wolves isn't an easy boss which was great
Did u know that u can unlock trish and play as her in both scenarios????
I remember beating dmc2 in a day when i was 14 (hd collection) and being confused why it was so easy. Then i started 3 and got stuck fighting agni and rudra for like a week straight, and then vergil almost made me give up playing until i got good at royal guard
i bet you know nothing about dmc 1 since dmc 3 aint compared to its difficulty and dmc 2 is just ebony and ivory game LOL
@@namelessu8136 why would i know nothing about dmc 1? I played the HD collection in the order of the games. 1->2->3 then played 4, then before 5 came out i replayed them all in proper order 3->1->2->4. Also i said in my comment that when this happened i was 14. I was recounting something that happened 10 years ago dude. I know about dmc 1. I just didnt think it was as hard as dmc 3.
ayo me too lol
i was not very used to gameplay like DMC at the time, and was basically just mashing like crazy and not upgrading dante. They kicked my ass so many times lol :~
I share these memories but at 13
@@djspit8929 anime pfp bro 🚩
I really think the more quiet brooding Dante could have worked.
I mean he went through plenty of trauma in DMC 1,killing his brother, watching Trish who looks like their mother “die” in their arms, so they had something to go off, we even saw something like that before fighting Mundas.
But noooo that was just too hard so instead they made him out of cardboard.
Bruh all that in A cutscene woulda been like 5 seconds with Dante saying one sentence not saying dmc one didn’t kinda have A story but it lacks a lot in that area
The somber and depressed Dante was portrayed quite good in the animated series, if you're interested in that
@@quineros9595 i completely forgot that was even real
Pretty funny when Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne (Yes, the game that started the "Featuring Dante from the DMC series" meme.) did a much better job with Dante's character than in...uh, the official sequel. I mean, there are some good things about DMC 2...the music is badass, the graphics (For the most part) have aged very well, and most of the character designs (Especially the depressed puppet that is Dante in this game.) are really sweet. A shame that that kind of stuff doesn't automatically make it fun to play, like literally every other DMC game in the franchise. At least 3 basically saved the franchise after this.
@Shalucard Was it confirmed to be canon
Is it really canon? Maybe for smt universe but not for dmc universe? Maybe neither are canon since in the Japanese version of nocturn they replaced Dante for Raidou
@@yanbelmiro7961 Actually that was a later release of Nocturne. In Japan Nocturne had three releases, the initial release of the game, The Maniax version which added Dante from the Devil May Cry series as well as other new features like the Fiend boss fights (this version was the basis for the International release), and then Maniax Chronicle Edition where Raidou Kuzunoha replaces Dante.
@@yanbelmiro7961 By the SMT Amala Multiverse the Dante encounter can be considered canon alongside the encounter with Raidou due the series history with variety of timelines, worlds, and differing events happening that leads to other branching paths.
Stained Class v01 Nice profile pic, best Tallica album. Also, is your username a Priest reference?
The only good things in dmc2: Dantes outfit, “King? Ya here’s your crown”, Lucia arc, some music tracks, and also it was a good stepping stone for Dante’s arc throughout the series.
Finally someone mentions Lucia tho
There also was the double sided coin.
@@shadestrider1033 dont forget the acrobatics too the way dante shoots his guns up in the air
And Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne
Lucia campaign knows to be even better than a vergil dlc where only the same thing is repeated by placing the vergil model on top of Dante and it doesn't have as much cutscene.
For the three-head guy, you gotta hold the lock-on button when the cursor is on the head you're supposed to be attacking.
As for Lucia's campaign, there are noticeable yet slight improvements to her gameplay over Dante's. Due to her projectile weapons not being as OP as Dante's some bosses actually require a little effort. You also get to see the story unfold from her perspective, which provides additional context for what's happening. She also gets some new bosses and enemies to fight that Dante never sees. Her campaign also has a better ending and closure.
Another positive might be the matrix running on walls moves. That was so cool back in the 2000s
Positives: DMC 2 gave birth to Trickster and Gunslinger Style.
ZeroNull i did not know that one! It makes sense since guns were super useful in the second game
@@NiaTheMilkTank and sword master with arial attacks.
@@NiaTheMilkTank Exactly. DMC2 was great for upping the stylish aspect of gameplay. DMC3 took what was there in DMC1 AND DMC2 to create its gameplay. 2 was bad at game design but had very awesome stylish moves.
The animation was really cool, but the game would have not been as bad if they had actually not included the wall run. It's far too easy to accidentally do when you're simply trying to roll. It does have invincibility frames, but it doesn't keep up your style meter and when you're trying to dodge near a wall with an uneven surface it makes it 100 percent impossible to dodge an attack.
As cool as it looks, there's absolute zero usage to the wall run. In DMC3 you could actually start the wall run from the air so you could use it to go higher than you can with a jump, but with DMC2 you can't use it to go higher and it's never helped me with dodging and it only gets in the way of dodging. I like the wall run in DMC3 because you can't ACCIDENTALLY do it and it served some sort of purpose, but the DMC2 gameplay would have been objectively better if they had not included the wall run because it does zero positives and does massive negatives.
Oh man, going from this to 3 is like a whole ass Ratatouille moment. Going from this to 3, as soon as you get your hands on the controls even the basic combat before you even unlock *anything* just feels immediately better.
At least that was how it felt for me. My friend who introduced to the series said so as well.
I feel i love 3 so much because it immediately cleansed the bad taste 2 left in my mouth
In 2018 I did a series of streams for this series as someone who only beat DMC1 at the time.
I went from 1, which was awesome albeit frustrating at times.
DMC2 was so bad, I was depressed and going. "Holy shit, that might actually be the worst game I ever played in my damn life." It made me feel small in the worst way... Usually games NEVER have that type of power over me. But this evoked an emotion I didn't think I'd feel.
And then I played DMC3, it hurt me plenty as the game wasn't fucking around, but god, it was such a satisfying experience. It's like the Doom 2016 of the DMC games. Fast, Exhilarating , brutal, but most importantly, fucking awesome.
Nah like 10000x better
WhiteGlas I agree. I quit 2 due to boredom and frustration. 3 felt right.
WhiteGlas That's probably part of why people praise 3 so much. Honestly, I didnt get charmed by it. It's way, way better than 2 and I can tell it's basically an even tighter DMC1 gameplay wise but there's something missing. That weird blend of horror, action and wackiness that 1 had is missing in 3. Its goofy and rewarding, but the dark ambiance is completely gone. I love the surrealism of DMC1 but sadly, the rest of the games didn't manage to capture that feeling ever again
I own this game for PS2 and never finished it, so when I got the collection in a bundle, I knew I had to fulfill my destiny. Lucia IS nicer to play (aside from her side-dodge not being optimal transporation like Dante's), has a tremendously goofy grenade weapon that's almost worthless but has some meme value, and has a better actor than the text-to-speech program they got for Dante, but she also has to suffer a thankfully easy water level. A little disappointing we never got this character in a good game.
lettuce prey she's back in 6 since she appears in 5
I remember playing this and not even knowing who I was actually fighting until halfway through, when they decide to finally introduce the main baddie. What a bad, bad game.
DMC 2 was actually my first DMC game I’ve ever played and I enjoyed it for what it was at the time. It was only after I went back and played DMC 1 and DMC 3 that I realized how horrible naive I was. I can’t play 2 anymore because of how slow and clunky it feels to me now even when I bought the HD re releases. DMC 4 is still my favorite one out of all the franchise.
I say that about 1. I think one is garbage outside of boss fights. 2 made me feel like the real dante, just broken. Dmc 3 had the best story but ill admit the combat was just as boring as the first until you started getting to the end or unlocked vergil. 4 was basic and 5 sucked ass
@@xsorakazamax7522 wtf are you saying? DMC 2 is garbage, slow, no emotion, no devil weapons, you can easily kill everyone in the game with ebony and ivory.
@@Kakihara696 there was alot of emotion not the weapons not being all there own styles did suck but this is dante so killing everything like that is canon LOL one thing I couldnt STAND about dmc 3 even tho it's the best was at higher missions everything started taking like 50 slashes to kill and it was just draining. most of the time I'm out of there and dont feel like dante.
@@xsorakazamax7522 real fans don’t skip dmc 2
@@xsorakazamax7522 5 sucked ass?
I've been a giant DMC stan since the first game came out, to the point that I own and wear an actual red leather trench coat, and i want to weigh in on a couple things: you described the combo system wrong - it doesnt go by what direction you move the stick, it goes by what slash you move the stick after. that doesnt make it less shit. regarding unfinishedness/lack of polish, you're absolutely right, that's exactly what happened. the story goes that they started development on 2 before 1 was finished, put a whole team of new guys on it, and their director was an idiot. So 6 months before release, they bring in Itsuno to take over, and at that point virtually nothing was done. They had some art assets, some maps, and only one or two attacks finished, and itsuno managed to get them to crank out almost the whole game in 4-5 months. The fact that it's playable at all is impressive. Lucia's campaign was at one point supposed to be the main campaign, but then they realized Lucia sucks as a character and her story is dumb (her campaign does at least HAVE a story, kinda) and they had to sell the game on Dante. And a last thing - in light of the time crunch, you can see some nuggets of ideas in dmc2 that, had they been given more time, might have made it a good game. In fact a lot of them like rainstorm, twosometime, air combos, and instant weapon switching did go on to be great additions to the series, they just couldn't get them right the first time out. So while DMC2 ended up bad, it's still an important step for the series to have taken on the road to what it's become.
WHY DO I REMEMBER HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME WITH THIS GAME!?
Man my 12 year old self was a sad sack of shit...
(I should clarify that I borrowed this game when I was 10 shortly after it's release, then I got it when I was eleven, and replayed both CDs several times till I turned 12. Also I strongly disliked DMC3 when I tried that at the age of 15 cause I compared it to the first AND only one I'd played until then, 2 lol. Obviousl 1 3 4 and 5 are the superior games by far. But I just couldn't see that)
No no don't bash it man, I liked it too
To be fair, when we're kids, we have fun with anything really, it's only when we start to mature that we start to acquire our own tastes
Dude this was my first ever DMC game that I played and at 10 years old I thought it was an absolute BANGER
We don't have any taste and standards when we are kids, so don't be too hard on yourself. I will say that it's an actual good reason to disregard any opinion on a game when people say "i love it as a kid".
I could totally see someone likening this at that age and having not played the original as a comparison
15:06 It's a testament to how much the combat in this game got kneecapped that I was surprised when you actually managed to pull off something resembling a real combo here.
If he thought the switches on Dante campaign were bad I'm so happy he didn't play Lucia, her underwater level with the switches that dissappear if you don't hit them fast enough and you've have to float up and down in the water to reach them. I still have PTSD from it
in the game's defense though : tanned redhead thicc waifu
Facts
@@kareemmasri3934 is she tanned?
Lucia's the only good thing about this game
She’s The only Ok thing about the game
Too bad she's an absolutely garbage character and is emotionally weaker then a, what, 10 year old girl?
Good things dmc2 has.
Music, Dante outfit, Graphics, Animations, the boss with 2 wolfs, the health bar and devil trigger bar looks and the way you can customize your amulet to change the way the devil trigger works.
DMC2 Dante design is my favorite; it's such a top-tier outfit to me lol
I have a weird memory from DMC2- The first time I ever played this game I remember getting a holy water drop from one of the dog/gremlin characters early in the 1st level. Then when I went to use it in a later fight, it wasn't in my inventory... then I found that apparently there are no holy water items in DMC2...? But I vividly remember the art for it?
This is so weird! I literally just played through it yesterday and I remember getting a holy water early on! I should check my inventory, I never ended up needing it, so I dunno what items I even have
4 months later:
DMC 2 has Holy Water, but when you get the item, Is instantly used to damage enemies, once you get It during the fight, you deal damage to enemies, There's no option to use It at Will
Every copy of Dmc is personalised
This video is like hearing you describe the light leaving your eyes from this game. Hopefully DMC3 brings it back for you, lol
Also a tip for future games: you'll get more out of jumping for i-frames than dodge rolling.
If anything, this review is being generous to DMC2.
You've got more than 10 thousand subscribers now. Time to do that Lucia playthrough!
Remember buying this on day one - one of my all time biggest mistakes of my life.
I'm sure I read something saying the people who made DMC2 were sent to jail for crimes against humanity
Am I the only one who loved playing as Lucia? She was so sweet and caring, and her controls and combat are so quick and fluid 🥺
I’m with ya on that.
Yes
just finished dmc 2 with dante and i don't think i wanna touch it even with a 10ft pole for a while, not even to play lucia's campaign
I can't wait to see your DMC 3 review. Hearing your gripes about DMC 1 & 2 makes me really anticipate the future video. It does just about everything you said you'd want from this series. DMC 3 may not be the most advanced compared to 4 & 5 but it definitely hits the sweet spot for what this series should be. DMC 3 is what got me into the series! Can't wait!
3's combat system arguably rivals its successors without its hardware-rooted handicaps (PS2 not having enough RAM to support style switching).
I can't comprehend how 12 year old me played both campaigns of this masterpiece
I guarantee that not playing the second campaign doesn't make this review any less true. I have owned no less than 6 copies of devil may cry 2, across 4 different platforms, and I couldn't get myself to slog through the first mission. When I was a child, playing on a ps2, back when I thought Chicken Little was a _good movie,_ I still refused to play this dumpster fire of a game. I offer my congratulations and condolences of managing to get through one of the campaigns.
I've been waiting for this for so long! 100% worth the wait, just like DMC3 will be after this travesty.
Oh and the Lucia campaign is only better because it's shorter and they try to give Lucia an actual character arc. Unlike Dante who walks in, does a thing and then walks somewhere else to do a thing there too.
Only time this game becomes not shit is when you beat the game on hard mode and unlock Trish as a playable character since Trish just plays like DMC1 Dante, fists and sword included. But you still have to beat the game twice to unlock a better moveset for the main character.
@Reggielacey 223 Yes it is, it's hardly even a game. The boss you fight on the rooftop after meeting Heihachi (he's called Arius here but that's a retarded name) can be defeated by just walking backwards and shooting.
@@kidfox3971 But can you get S by just walking back and shooting?
No you cannot, Graeme, and that's what literally everyone who complains about casuals using items to beat the Devil May Cry series forgets. The guns are a fucking crutch that dumps on your rating. If you're a casual, sure, just shoot everything, but you're not really trying if you don't aim for S on every mission. In which case you need to get your big boy pants on, stop whining about shooting everything, and learn how to combo into dodge into combo into jump into shoot into combo. DMC2 can be entertaining, when you ignore the meme about "JuSt ShOoT eVeRyThInG! eZ!" Especially since the reviewer here failed to mention the final boss, after the giant amalgam. Who blocks bullets the whole time, forcing you to sword fight him. Whoops.
@@Nekufan1000000 Yeah sorry that's bullshit, not only is sword combat boring and slow in this game due to them putting all of the combat dev time into guns but you actually can beat the final boss with guns. The only good thing about DMC2 is laughing at how bad the game is when you can rape every boss with what's supposed to be the weakest form of weapon. Without that, the game has zero entertainment value.
@@Ticketman99 Why would you want to?
I like the video, but did you really have to show all that DMC2 footage? Not cool, man.
Dante's story is really simple, but Lucia's story is about how she was a fake being made to do the bidding of the super devil and coming to terms with her dark past, and demonstrating that she can overcome the machinations others force on her. On that merit, I would argue that the story is the least bad part of the game
I just learned this in my third playthrough (counting the one in Lucia campaign)
The combo system isn't direction based, it's based on which attack you move the stick
If you move it on the first attack, Dante does a three attack combo
On the second attack, it goes up to 6
On the third attack, you do slash upwards after the downward slash
The only things DMC2 got going for it is Dante's design, smoother graphics, and the ability to run on walls due to the Matrix craze. But that's it. Now, you'll hear fans try HARD to justify this game. Either they claim it's an underappreciated gem like Alien 3 or claim Dante was 'depressed'. I call bullshit on both. Not only was this game solely made to cash-in on DMC1's success (going so far as to do it behind Hideki Kamiya's back), but Dante's 'way of dealing with depression has always been to bottle it up and hide it with a smile. He does this in prequel material and DMC1-DMC5. Dante is this way because his own creator (Hideki Kamiya) is this way lol. A lot of Kamiya's characters take up a few of his personality quirks.
To put the nail to the 'But Dante was depressed!' coffin, in all DMC2 development interviews (from game magazines like PSM to promo material released prior to the sequel's release), the sole intent behind Dante's new demeanor was to have him be more "mature". DMC2 took place in the far future where Dante had finally grown up and mellowed out. And like James Bond, he would be partnered with a new babe to join him on a new adventure. And since DMC2 was made during the Matrix craze, the development team felt a mellowed Dante (like Neo) would be "stylish".
So, that's it. Dante wasn't acting 'depressed' over Nero Angelo/Vergil. Dante was simply being 'mature' (the exact word the DMC2 development team used). Of course, this future timeline of DMC2 consequently backed the franchise into a corner. And since no one liked this 'mature' Dante, we ended up with a PREQUEL instead. Then when that prequel proved to be a success, that DMC team (headed by Itsuno now) opted to just to gloss over DMC2's character progression altogether. Now, it's considered an estranged step-son of DMC family, along with the Reboot.
Since then, several fans have attempted to explain the Dante in DMC2, trying to play up this 'depression' card. But for longtime fans who've followed all the shady events leading up to DMC2 as well as understand how Dante always dealt with his depression, we know the REAL truth: it's bullshit. Even the team behind Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne chose to return Dante to his former glory days since they weren't buying it either.
In the end, Capcom's greed for more money, bad writing, and a lack of understanding of Dante's character nearly killed this franchise. To have many fans attempt to rewrite DMC2's controversial history and make excuses on behalf of Capcom means we're doomed to have this same mistake repeated, which is how Itsuno got screwed over by the reboot in the same way Kamiya got screwed over by DMC2. While we all have the freedom to enjoy whatever we want (and trust me, I like a good amount of cheese content myself lol), fans shouldn't feel obligated to love a turd or make excuses for it either.
I'm not sure what you are saying. I literally haven't seen or heard a SINGLE soul actually defend this game it call it a gem. This is like godzilla '98 where it's universally reviled.
I've not seen anyone defend DMC2 for anything it does besides being funny to watch or play for 5 minutes because of how absurdly awful the gameplay and story is.
People playing the 'Dante was depressed' card are just trying to make the story more cohesive. While the game fucking sucks and no one would argue otherwise, some people like having a cohesive story across a series. Yes, I am one of them. While that wasn't the intent of the game, hey, when life gives you lemons...
DMC 2 was posed to be an resident evil game so there’s that ......
@@joetheghost9663 that was the first game. Unless 2 was ALSO supposed to be one
You're not missing anything with Lucia. It's where the actual story is, but it's still nothing to write home about. She still fights the same enemies with even slower guns and she has underwater levels.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the sound design. Dmc 2 I remember just being really quiet for most of the part lol
asides the enemies screeching as i lazily unload my artillery of bullets at their faces, yeah it's real quiet
1:16 "that's an opinion...um, that you can have i guess, if you like to be wrong about things" This quote of yours really made me laugh when I first watched this years ago when this video was new, and I've said this over the years since, it's so funny to me!
Edit: although I've changed it a bit to be "that's an opinion that you can have, if you like to be wrong about things"
I'm finding all kinda new channels during this Quarantine. Gotta say...it's one of the more positive aspects of lockdown
Hyve Minds- Your DmC videos are seriously great, heavily look forward to the rest of em 🤘🤘🤘
Lore wise, the whole thing felt like a rushed mess. In terms of monster designs though, it was the first step that they went into creating more monstrous looking demons.
I think the wallrunfeature was realy nice. Wish they had it more implemented in the Tricksterstyle in the following games. With more development it would have been so awesome. Like you could use not just guns whil wallrunning, but also weapons and other styles... Would be great and dynamic. I miss this move still in 5 because this and the idea of a costumisable Deviltrigger were the only good thing in this game. To don't get me wrong I don't want an amulett Deviltriggersystem again, but it was creative for sure... Thanks for the video
I understand that you don't want to play Lucia's campaign. But she's the one who gets a character development, the traditionnal thematic of "The dark and light within us all". Lucia is actually a good character, she's sweet and caring. Gameplay wise, she sucks as much as Dante.
I think that if DMC2 wasn't such an incomplete game, had a more fleshed out gameplay system and level design, it might've been better. But I'm still glad it sucked; otherwise we wouldn't have the grace that was its sequels. X)
@Pro Token420 she did, only in the DMC 5 novels.
Disappointing to say the least
Rialy Andriamiseza So the only important part of this game (gameplay) still sucks with her
@Pro Token420 She did come back in the prequel graphic novel that was only released in Japan.
Best positive about the game is playable Trish, wish feels good to play when mastered
Honest reviews are the best reviews. Even if it’s professionally or unprofessionally done. If someone is being professional about a game review I honestly see it sugar coating and quite honestly I prefer your way of reviewing games lol
My favorite missions in this game were mission 11 from Dante's campaign and the water level from Lucia's campaign. They had the most platforming and puzzles compared to the other ones. I really liked taking a break from the boring combat.
Your reviews are great and I like the way you approach games and how you discuss them. Looking forward for more of your devil may cry reviews!
You know what? I'll subscribe to you so that one day when you are a professional channel, I can proudly say " I was there when this channel was not yet professional".
The R2 thing was the first thing i figured out.
beyond that, the combat = you can complete the game with just ranged attacks... After shooting awhile, enemies start floating/flying away so there's no need to melee them, even the big guys. Get hit 5 times, start floating and flying up into oblivion, you can juggle a few as well as when they fall, the bounce and stay down for a few seconds, shooting again launches them up... lol
Hey what is the name of the song in intro section please when you're discussing the story part.
Thank you !
The Golems (very slowly) attack by causing spikes to come out of them, but you can normally just stagger them constantly that it's a non threat tbh
Please bro, record your reaction in the first mission. Because it will be amazing.
I swear to God, I've seen comments saying they would rather play this than the reboot. All I was thinking was "Why would you torture yourselves?"
Kinda sad you never played Lucia, she genuinely feels so much better to play, almost like the game was developed around her. DMC2 is a weird enigma. It's one of the only games where the enemy attacks/behavior actually change when you get higher difficulties. But the Must Die mode has such awful mechanics that you can't experience the better AI, and new moves at all without getting so frustrated that most would just quit on the first mission.
I've been playing these games the same way you have and I just finished the helicopter fight, and I love your videos, they're well put together and really enjoyable. Keep up the great work
Devil may cry 2 is actually that bad
Me: water makes things wet
Most of the time when you hear a sequel is bad it is horribly over exaggerated but this is a rare case where it really is just as terrible as people say
This was my introduction to DMC. I was about 12 or something and I loved it. But only because of the concept. Invincible half demon. It’s been about 20 years and I can bring myself to sit through a full campaign again.
Majin form
My favorite part about DMC2 is that you can finish it in about 2-3 hours, so the sufferring doesnt last too long
Me *Hears the background ost* .
A man of culture, i see !
The funny thing about DMC2 being so bad is that it had a bigger impact on the franchise than any other single game. It laid the groundwork for many of DMC3's most beloved features.
Granted, that's a lot like having written half of a great report.
But wouldn’t you say that DMC 3 had the biggest impact on the franchise? It set the tone for the rest of the series and moves its identity towards the combat, introduced styles and fleshed out DMC 2’s weapon switching.
This video just confirms what I figured out while playing infected chopper... I dont need to play it anymore and I'm moving on to Dmc 3!
“Managaes to be frustrating and boring at the same time, I didn’t even know that was possible”
Bless your soul, you’ve never played Remember Me
Glad you're still making vids and that you didn't die of the rona
Am I the only person confused by "Auto Lock-on?" I've never had an auto lock happen until the reboot, the lock on in all of the other games were hold R1 to lock which would then make the directional inputs easier to consistently pull off. Then to switch targets click the left stick. If there's an option to turn lock on into a toggle I would reccomend turning it off because all of the games feel designed around hold to lock if you're comfortable with giving it a shot.
From what I remember auto lock on and auto fire were options after you died a few times but you can turn them off.
is your background music is from castlevania symphony of the night? lol i just noticed it
Damn when you said you cant cherry pick only the ones that are best. I kinda dont know What to do recently i watched oceans eleven for the first time and loved it but when it was time to see the second I saw the reviews and they said it’s bad so I skipped it and watched the third one it was good but looked a lot similar so it was little boring and my question is should I watch/play even the bad ones when I know that there is high chance of not enjoying them but I think when I watch or play something bad my taste in thinks gonna be more clear/brilliant but I think I like when it has awesome reviews that there is high chance of liking it. What do you think ?
I made a serious attempt to beat this game when I bought the HD collection. I managed to endure past the helicopter, but then I got to the big fire minotaur boss and discovered that if you gets far enough away his AI just TURNS OFF. He'll sit there doing absolutely nothing while you shoot him to death. I quit the game in disbelief and haven't played it since. I don't think I've ever seen a more broken boss fight.
When you pick up DMC3 the increase in quality is both immediately noticeable and MASSIVE. It feels even better if you're coming straight from 2. like eating a giant cheeseburger after starving all day
Yeah. When you go from dmc2 to dmc3 you can see BIG differences in both quality and difficulty.
I mean, I'm one of the guy being OFFERED EASY difficulty on DMC3 if you know what I mean... DMC2 on other side, not really despite those ultra annoying boss.
Honestly when I first played this game 4 years ago as a casual peruser of this franchise I thought to myself "how the fuck did the franchise survive past this!?" As far as everyone is concerned SMT Nocturne is the real Devil May Cry 2. And while I can certainly understand people's grievances with DMC and D.I.N.O I'm betting everyone was complaining about that game because they somehow managed to repress their memories of playing this...thing.
that's a good question honestly, glad it did though
Dmc Devil May Cry is better then Dmc 2
@@yeramilvalentin Agreed
a lil late , cuz im rewatching all ur reviews which are awesome btw , its good to have people actually go deep into the game before reviewing ( for ex ; you looking up guard flying and other stuff ) everything is right about this video i love it , though i wanna say the despair embodied ( the last boss ) was actually pretty decent and fun to fight
I know you said you’re not a professional reviewer and you don’t have many subscribers but don’t let that discourage you. This videos more well done than most professional reviews from big sites. Keep at it bro
You can switch targets with L3
oops
Even with that, the lock on in dmc2 is still frustrating
@@HyveMindsGames To piggyback onto this comment, get used to target switching being bound to the control stick buttons, cuz that's more or less how life is from here on out.
In the old games I test every button to check what they do which is better than reading the manual or check button layout
I beat the whole game in one sitting without even knowing that, at least it was easy
The heath bars remind me of Dark Souls and I feel like that's relevant.
Yeah, because the next game if you play DMC3 NA Original Release, you will FEEL PAIN. It's good but my good if the DMC3 Original NA was a cruel Capcom joke because he complain DMC2 being too easy.
You know what? I'm glad you said that. Because it just made me realize what exactly this game is.
It's the ANTI DARK SOULS. Like the exact polar opposite. Think about it. Bullshit story, laughable objectives, retarded enemies, cancerous controls, unspeakable level design, no memorable music, Unthreatening bosses, and absolutely no melee weapon variety. It's like the Devil ate Dark Souls and shat it out. That's why he was crying.
@@hewhobattles8869 You are absolutely correct. Have a like sir.
Sohail ^
@Yujiro Hanma Yeah fuck Dark Souls but Demons Souls tho...
"Now we can stop Arius's ambition."
"Whatever"
pretty much sums up DMC2.
😁
The funny thing is, they did port DMC1 Dante into 2, it's Trish, once you beat the game on hard mode you unlock Trish as a playable character and she just has Dante's moveset from 1, delay combos and all.
I actually had to remind myself that the sword was in the game and to use it, because it really doesn't feel like the game expects you to know that. But Dante can flip off of walls, so that's pretty cool.
the here's your crown scene is easily the best part of the entire game. That scene was easily one of dante's most badass moments.
I genuinely liked being able to customize your DT with the necklace and the crystals you find
0:11 I keep coming back to this video for this part.
I actually really liked this game despite its flaws. Lucia is my favorite character of the series. Very well designed. Too bad she was only in one game.
I really thought her version of the “created by the bad guy” story was a lot better done than Trish’s in 1. She actually felt bad about it because she was raised to be a good person and eventually strived to do better so that it wouldn’t define her.
Trish was always meant to be evil from the moment Mundas made her but only really changed because Dante wanted to correct the wrong of not being able to save his “mother”.
favourite character??? what???? what character
like i understand liking her but favourite character? you'd have to be mad. even trish is more interesting. hell fucking morrison and patty are more interesting
@@dankerbell If Morrison was playable maybe he'd be my favorite character. But he isn't so Lucia it is.
The biggest positive of this game is that it introduced switching weapons instantly by pressing a shoulder button.
And Rebellion.
I hate to be that guy, but what is the "oh no" from 1:06 from? I hear it all the time in videos but when I try to search for it, I get every other "oh no" meme BUT the one I want to find. I tried "oh no meme", "emotionless oh no meme", "robotic oh no meme", and "calm oh no meme" and no dice whatsoever.
I wish there was an easier way to look up obscure memes. I had a hell of a time trying to find the one where an office employee casually hops out of an open window a year ago or so. I can't just "paste" my memory of the visual/audio, and text can only get you so far with trying to source audio/visual memes.
It's knuckles from Sonic adventure lol
The mention of the kerning made me crack up. Studying design has broke me.