I have a friend who S ranked DMC2 and guess what, the style system in it is more broken than you realize. apparently, the style average ranking doesn't care if you skip enemies, so on some missions you can get a single S rank in combat and run to the end and get an S in style for the ENTIRE MISSION
The newer games still have a similar problem. DMC5 straight up discourages you from fighting every enemy in the stage besides the ones it forces you to fight. Fighting a single enemy like those fly things at the beginning can tank your style since you can't get higher than a C later on because they die so quickly.
This may sound really odd, but I'm glad games like this one and X7 are in compilations on modern platforms. It can be easy to say "Oh, let the bad games rot in the past" or some such, but I believe bad games are as important to preserve as good ones, especially if they're ones like DMC 2 that, in the long run, had positive ripple effects on their series
@@whodatninja439 I think so. The previous director "jumped shipped" as what I heard and itsuno didn't want to be known as that guy that made a bad game
@@whodatninja439 Believe it or not, you aren't entirely wrong. If I recall correctly, the director was changed to Hideaki Itsuno halfway into development, and he would stay the lead for the series up through DMC 5
I agree 100%. Especially since I'm someone who wasn't able to experience Mega Man X7 back then. Heck, and I know I might cause a flame war, but.. I actually kinda liked X7 lol
@@whodatninja439DMC2 is also referenced in DMC5's novel as well. It isn't a long legacy but preservation is important. We aren't getting a Capcom vault (think Nintendo with Galaxy 2) with DMC where only a few games make it to future platforms. I think Capcom could do a lot more since a lot of spinoffs of Megaman are unaccounted for, but now we don't need people to get an emulator or PS2 to experience what's wrong with X7.
Always called Dmc 2's Stinger the Stumbler by how awkward Dante thrusted with it, looked like he was attempting a proper Stinger but tripped slightly only going half the distance it usually would.
Yea all the launcher moves such , the stinger doesn’t transition into the staby staby million staby move , and there is no enemy step either , i think, but if u use the devil trigger on certain move it gets a better effect , it extends the stinger while using it and the staby move can only be performed in devil trigger, and I hated the machine guns attached to Dantes hands on devil trigger , there overkill 😂😂😂, but can’t perform any cool moves with em , I think .
i remember forcing myself to finish it... never played it again i can't imagine how hard (mentally) it was to get all the S rank in THIS game.... Well done J you are really brave
This summed up my experiences with DMC2 pretty accurately as well. Codex Entry did a video called, "The Importance of Playing on Hard", which stresses that when you play on the highest difficulty, both what the game does right and what it gets wrong become more obvious. That's definitely the case with Devil May Cry 2. On Normal and Hard, it's bland, but not offensive; however, kick it up to DMD and its problems become glaring and undeniable. For me, the turning point was during my DMD run with Lucia. I couldn't beat Trismagia without using items, so I tried looking up videos to see how other people had done it and (not lying here) I COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE ONE. All the reference videos either used Super Mode or items. I know it's possible, since I've gotten very close myseelf, but what does that say about the quality of the game?
As someone who did all missions in DMC2 with and S rank on both discs and without items (yes, it is possible, albeit one of the bigger challenges in the series, IMO), I feel you. Playing for S ranks exposed the various level design issues so much, but in the end I consider the challenge worth it. As for M12 on LMD, you have to be really, really lucky with Trismagia's pattern and use ice + offense + aerial heart and hope that the flame face comes close so you can spam aerial cross on it for big damage. If you can't kill the boss in under 3,5 cycles, restart (and that is without losing health, if you get B for health you must kill the boss in around 2 cycles or less, which requires much luck). As for videos, the only vid I saw was only showing the Trismagia boss fight with Lucia and it was from JavelinaDevil, which was still very useful for my run.
@@MTTKamikaze Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely give it a try when I decide to come back to DMC2. I'll also take a look at the video you mentioned. Have a great day! :)
@@jmonty1595 no problem, if you'd like more tips then remember to hit me up. For now I'll just say that flame/offense/aerial herts are the way to go with rapid fire kicks and dt into aerial cross, cranky bombs do a lot of damage, give a lot of dt and can be weaved between knives to not drop a combo, directional jumping can evade better than Lucia's dodges and a secret mission is needed to S rank M7 on LMD without items (otherwise use Trish)
the problems with this game are glaring and obvious even on normal mode. I actualy haven't finished the game because it's so awful I just got sick of it. it's like the youtuber "hyve minds" said: the fact that this game is so easy is actually a blessing in disguise: the combat is so awful that because it's so easy you can at least get through it relatively quickly and you don't need to repeat it too many times. "god forbid if this game was kind of hard" which I assume, is what you get on higher difficulties.
i saw a DMC2 playthrough by Accounting Nightmare, who didn't use items and played on DMD i also couldn't beat trismagia on DMD, that was my stopping point. AND I WAS PLAYING TRISH
It's utterly mind boggling how, even before maxing them out, Ebony and Ivory STOMP everything in this game. No need to do anything else, just stand back and shoot.
"I have a soft spot for DMC2 ..." Mee too. It's a very nostalgic game for me. Playing this with my best friends, back in the good ol' day, after watching Vision of Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop on MTV/Viva. Ah, those were the days. But the game itself is garbage, there is no denying that. When I replayed it on my Switch, a few month ago, I only wanted it to finally end. The first playthrough was decent enough fun, but everything after that first playthrough is just a nightmare. Worst thing imho: That stupid fish boss on DMD with Trish!
Literally, I played it for the first time and was loving the music and enemy design, DESIGN not gameplay. And set pieces/level aesthetic. Until... That fucking chopper fight, RIGHT then i started to realize how absurdly bad the game's combat is. There's legitimately no defense, i beat DMC1 on Dante Must Die. DMC2 is so brokenly easy it made me bored to tears, there was literally no point in the entire game where i was the slightest bit worried or on edge in fear of dying or what not
Yea I feel your pain, it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to maintain a combo just because the enemies keep bouncing away from you. And the camera certainly doesn't make thing easier.
I only ever finished it once with both Dante and Lucia then afterwards went on to play DMC3 without even bothering to unlock everything like I did with DMC1.
Well done, there are some points that I can agree with such as getting required orbs from arius fights. Although, there are couple of points I need to pick up from this as there are far better strats than the ones you are sharing. It's not worse than you think given the strategies and resources used here: - Much like DMC 1, S ranking in DMC2 requires a lot of planning and research about the game. - About stylish average. At S rank, for each 5000 additional style points, your point will be incremented by one to 6, 7, 8 etc. Therefore the claim that more singular S ranks >> one veeeery long S rank combo is false. - Merciless may have range but you lose total amount of damage. Therefore, its much better to stick with rebellion or vendetta for even more damage. I see a lot of missile rocket - Stinger does not do way more than other moves. High time does about the same damage as Stinger, round trip does even more, million stab and so on. There are techniques in this game that lets you use DT form moves without consuming them all. s and much more. - 2 missiles fire from chopper should easily be recognisable from the sound alone rather than "I couldn't see them and procced to shoot " You can also destroy them with your guns which lets you gain free DT. - The bats from M6 were not impossible if you destroy the boss's hand they will no longer be spawned. Additionally, bat gives you free DT. You get free roundtrips. - Bolverk is free once you get to loop him with your round trip I could go on more, but I only picked up the ones that matters
@@Saltyaf38 It needs a rewrite yes, but if they reboot it, they'll change Dante's design. They'll make him look like some realistic crappy tired from life old man instead of the kick ass demon hunter character he is in this game.
When I first played DMC 2, I really wanted to unlock Trish; complete both Danté and Lucia's stories to unlock Hard, complete Danté's story on Hard to unlock her. And when I finally did, I was proud I unlocked her myself, and for me, the game is all the more fun because of it.
The thing about the Reboot was that It lacks identity. In one way, it tried to be DMC but in another way, it wanted to become Heavenly Sword with the story. Combining Capcom Japan nagging with Tameem's self-centered jackass attitude at the time. It was a mess. Heck, the demo tester said it was a mess with bunch of bugs that you didn't intend to do it but it activate anyway and Style meter didn't even go down. Tameem said and I quoted "The game is perfect, there is nothing to fix." I needed to remind you all how bad DmC ver. 1.00 was. Capcom and the PC dev port had to force a patch and later a definitive Edition (which carry over most of the stuff from DMC3 and DMC4 at the basic level (not even combat depth)) to fix the game. The game is only ok action game but the identity crisis was there.
I haven't played the reboot in a while but I remember it being a good game just not a good Devil May Cry. If it was anything else it probably would've had a sequel by now
@@jaykelley103 I can't stand the reboot either, but i have to admit 2 is worse, at least in the reboot you cant shoot every enemy to death and hitting things with the sword had some satisfying impact, and the levels weren't just giant empty maps with nothing happening in them like most of 2's levels
@Mychael G. I've been thinking about it a lot. Hypothetically they could have make a remake od DMC2... but why should they? There's no good reason to do it. After all it was the game that almost destroyed the franchise, I highly doubt they even like to talk about it in Capcom, not to mention seriously thinking about wasting money to make a better version of DMC2. And even IF , then they would have to change almost everything, not just graphics, because almost everything in this game sucked. So I think it's more logical to make remake of 1st DMC or just newDMC with new story.
I played DMC 2 without knowing it's reputation either and I had fun playing. But at the end of the game I said to myself 'Man... this game was too easy.'
reminds me of trying to get pure platinum on bayonetta. Bayonetta is such a cathartic game if you DONT care about scores at all, but if you do try, you will see the dark corners of that game very quickly. Too many combos and weapons are discouraged because of how your points will get reduced more and more unless you spam the large punch and kick attacks frequently. the difference is that bayonetta was designed to be save scummed by restarting at check points by exiting to the title screen, when they really could have just owned up to the BS and had a retry button.
I haven't played all the PlatinumGames games, I even hear that MGR lets you choose sections, but I feel you as a The Wonderful 101 player. Time, Style and Damage are an interesting trio to balance but time may be unclear till you have a guidebook or list. Same goes for style only it is so dynamic that you may need to study or focus on some exploits. Damage... It seems good on paper but you need to master the more gimmicky segments where you might not have your parry or Ukemi if you even got it. It is also super linear. Fortunately, there are cheat codes to get the bonuses I believe but it feels like they could use some rethinking of their approach. If it isn't easy to retry, why make it tedious to even start practicing?
Yeah, for DMC 2 I just stick to hard mode. Right there at 3:40 is why I come back to DMC 2. There’s something there that feels good playing around and experimenting with the DMC2 tool kit in its own way. What ruined DMD mode for me was how they have the enemies go into devil trigger. They gain super armor. Maybe this is how the other games are too, but the base difficulties and the harder modes in the other games are usually all the challenge I need. So I went into DMD for 2 seeking that standard level of challenge. But what goes wrong is after the set 15 seconds of battle, or whatever it is that the enemies have before they auto devil trigger, suddenly you’re playing a Devil May Cry with no collision detection. You’re doing damage but the lack of flinching enemies ruins my ability do my 3:40 thing. Ultimately I just A-S ranked the whole game and left it that. I didn’t worry about being an S rank elitist too much precisely because I saw everything in this video coming from a mile away And I just want a chill time out of my DMCs.
DMC2 is one of the first video games I ever played. I still remember finishing it and finding out you needed a second disk to play as the girl but we didn’t have the second disk.
@@JsReviews well I was about 7 years old and I remember I had to ask my uncle to beat 2 bosses for me; green octopus thing and final boss. The rest my cousin and I did by ourselves so not that hard if a 7 year old does it haha
Getting one S rank for the platinum trophy was painful as is but getting all S ranks is something else. DMC2 is probably the hardest DMC game to fully S rank.
@@joshpl5451 because he met Nero, another part of his family, and his lost brother’s son. He was no longer alone, and he could be a mentor to Nero and guide him in the legacy of Sparda.
I platinumed this on my PS3 at the start of the year. Felt well chuffed. Granted I used a cheat to help me beat Bloody Palace but all the same I did it. I still think the game is fine. Not great, but a servicable action adventure game
DMC2 needs a remake, or a remaster with a overhaul rebalancing. Where DMC2 plays more like the 3rd game, and able to switch between styles, weapons on the fly. and then rebalance the weapons and monsters. And maybe edit the story abit, like bosses with introductions, Bolverk needed one.
Despite being a diehard DMC/Platinum/Character Action lifer who goes out of his way to get the max ranks on the max difficulties in any title, I never bothered with doing anything beyond playing dmc2 with all 3 characters on DMD. Thank you so much for doing it so I don't ever have to. Looks like pulling teeth. I'm sorry for your loss.
@@funnfungusie9622 I'm actually not sure what qualifies as "plat". Don't pay attention to chievos, but I've done SS runs on DMD for the nero/dante campaign, and beaten bloody palace as nero/dante/Vergil. The only thing left for me to do in 5 is a damageless DMD run as N/V/D and a deathless/damageless as Vergil. Should be easy with vergil, i was just a bit sloppy on my first run around. Also trying out the divergence mod so I can try doing Nero/Dante the full way through. No interest in inviting more V in my life. I got his bloody palace and i'll probably never touch him again. :P
@@Envoy15 Platinum trophy/ all achievements. If your at the point were you do damageless dmd, thats pretty much a plat and a half. Im having a real hard time doing the s ranks on dmd at the moment or even just surviving. Im a little less then halfway. At least i know its more then possible to do now.
@@funnfungusie9622 Only did damageless on dmc4 and under. Also didn't bother for the Deboot :P Which one are you working on? DMc4 isn't too bad so long as you develop/study strats for problem enemies and bosses, but dmc3 is a nightmare to do no damage. You have to really consider your build and what enemies you are fighting, and everything has much higher health. You also need to be aware of how to manage DT enemies. Leaving guys alive on life support while you combo down their friends, and then take out a group all at once with some DTE or other AoE moves is an important skill in DMC3, less so for the future games.
Impressive playing. Cool to see footage of this game as its the only one I never completed. Ive only tried it briefly but will have to go through it for the kill one day. It always looked generic so I didnt take it seriously. Just completed DMC 4 special edition. It was cool to be able to play as other characters in that version.
So... You did the S Rank hunt on... What difficulty? Normal or "Easy" mode? Hard or "Normal" mode? Or... Dante Must Die or "Buffed up Hard? Whatever difficulties it was (oh wait, you did in all 3 difficulties), you are really a S hunt slayer on the infamous DMC2 all the way. I'm still playing DMC2 from time to time for the hell of it... But not for this. You are just Massochist, I *salute* you... Despite by the end of the day... You can't contain yourself.
Man I could almost never get a SHOWTIME because enemies kept dying before it could happen. So I'm puzzled to see it can actually be done. Man this game sucks...
I'm glad you finally realized what we were all saying, but It sucks that you had to go through something so painful just to finally cast out your rose tinted glasses. I will always defend certain aspects of DMC2, and even like the character Lucia, but the game on the whole is NOT good.
11:31 "take advantage of holding down R2 to turn off autolock" do you know how much suffering this could have saved me had I known this information yesterday. FUCK.
DmC2 is good. First play Dmc5, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC3, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC4, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC1, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play the DmC revoot, 100% it, do everything you can do. Finally, with all other options exhausted... play bayonetta, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play bayonetta 2, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Dante's Inferno, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play MGR, 100% it, do everything you can do.then play God Hand, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Castlevania Lord of Shadows, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Ninja Garden, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Astral Chain, 100% it, do everything you can do. Now, at last, if you REALLY need a beat em up. REALLY NEED IT. Go back and replay through DmC, it's probably been a while. Then finally, after all that, DMC2 might be worth a play through.
You scaring me now, ordynary men wouldn't get further that infected choper, but we my friend aren't ordynary men. I finnished blood palace and call it a herculan labor, but you ascended it.
Dmc 2 def is the worst out of all but i really liked the demon boss designs(besides octopus hydra boss and helicopter), played this when i was 11, but the FINAL boss, the giant and skeleton warrior were really fun to fight, your videos are great, keep it up.
Lol finally, someone else who spent just as much time on this game as I have. Though the only reason for that is this was the only DMC game I had as a kid for a long time until I was able to play 1 and 3 again, and I even had a brady games strategy guide to it that my dad bought back when the game first was released. I still kinda go back to it and play with Trish for nostalgia sake since she plays exactly like DMC1 Dante, even with a significantly longer stinger than DMC2 Dante.
As someone who has played DMCA 3 or 4 for only 10-minutes or so 8 or so years ago. I'm not entirely sure why this was recommended to me. But hey, was a good video.
it feels like saying any game is bad because if you go to the most hardcore version of it it is hard if not unfair or unfun because you have to do the same stuff to finish it... it is like scoring a fire emblem game only by playing lunatic+ runs and forgeting about the normal gameplay, extreme difficulty is a thing that most people won't play because it is not enjoyable, i do enjoyed my lunatic run in awakening but i wont touch lunatic+
I sorta feel you. There are a lot of sticks to beat DMC2, but it seems like his recent revisit to the game for S ranks which is the basis of the video is where he came to the conclusion that it was irredeemable (not to X7 levels). It isn't even that he is focusing on the difficulty alone but also getting a maximum score (which would be like Lunatic+ with no deaths for your allies) which is fair as that should be fun... but the more I think the less I think these scoring systems are that good as much as they are fine additions. It is worth making sure that harder and lower difficulties do serve a clear niche at least. In simple terms, each one can be seen as a stepping block except Heaven and Hell (which is a weird speedrunner tool?) and the highest one shouldn't be some no man's land if possible.
I think you're missing the point. A lot of people here mostly subscribe to the idea that DMC2 is bad, or at the very LEAST super mediocre and boring, and he was, up to now, trying to defend the game and say it's better than people say it actually is. In an effort to prove his (unfortunately misguided) point, he attempted to take on the hardest challenge DMC games have to offer, which is S ranking every mission... which, instead of highlighting whatever few good points the game had, only served to show how miserable the game can really be if the player does decide to put that much effort in. Challenge in a video game, in of itself, is SUPPOSED to help players appreciate the merits presented (be it many or few), but if the basics of the gameplay are so poor, then it'll only serve to actively fight against the player and make said player see the flaws in a much clearer way. I think that's what he's getting at...
One of the combos i do is High time + E&B + High time but you must have a patience of a monk because it will bore you within minutes of doing it. I beat it twice with Dante and once with Lucia just to unlock Trish and after that i never touch this device of mental torture.
This video inspired me to also try to S rank all of dmc2, and after only about 2 weeks of trying I only have 1 mission left to S rank, mission 16, all on normal btw and I wouldn't call it a nightmare to S rank at all tbh, and I thought S ranking 14 was way easier than 12, wasn't even trying to S rank 14 when I did and 12 took forever because I'd always lose my combo on the boss
Me getting all S ranks on devil hunter made me love the game more and look forward to S ranking son of sparda and other difficulties, this guy doing dmc 2 all S made him hate it
DMC2 turned out to be so broken because most of it was mismanaged and the writing/directing were handled by a ghostwriter. Oh, and by the way, Itsuno was responsible for the "Here's your crown." one-liner from Dante against Arius; let's be thankful he and his team of talent saved Devil May Cry with the third mainline entry(DMC3 had Dante regain his cool and become the wisecracking badass and goofball was know today, as well as Vergil turning into one of the most iconic video game rivals; his dialogue will always be memeable and never be unmemorable). Lucia is just wasted potential tbh, but Nero was able to carry her poorly done execution of a secondary protagonist that later takes his/her place as the main lead, specifically in DMC4 and DMC5. I have some good things to say about DMC2: it introduced Bloody Palace, Dante's design was awesome including the FMVs during his scenario(same goes with the Japanese commercial), and his guest star appearance in SMT3 Nocturne(the HD Remaster had Dante voiced by Reuben Langdon, tbh), the amulet gameplay feature was interesting while also giving us Shin Majin/True Devil Trigger(known as Sin Devil Trigger in DMC5 after it became canon), the soundtrack was stellar but it gets even better when Tetsuya Shibata returned to compose DMC3 & DMC4, and Trish is playable for the first time in this series; too bad you have to unlock her.
We should at least be grateful that this game sold well enough for DMC3 to be greenlit, and for Itsuno’s strong refusal to let DMC2 be his sole contribution to the series be the thing that let him ask Capcom to give him DMC3 from the start.
Would you guys rather have a DMC2 Remake that makes all the changes necessary to the story, gameplay, enemies and environments that brings it up to par with the rest of the franchise or DMC6?
This video largely reminds me of why I grew to dislike No more heroes 2 - where the games inherent flaws aren't so crippling until a challenge is presented in the game and the cracks suddenly begin to actively fight against you.
I feel like judging a game on it's most hardcore, or worst aspects, isn't fair to a game. Just playing DMC2 casually is a very fun and atmospheric experience imo, even if there are a lot of issues with the game. I mean, I don't judge Sonic Adventure based on trying to play the A and B missions on Big the Cat. I feel like trying to beat DMC2 on S ranking all the missions is very intentionally shooting yourself in the foot in terms of enjoying it.
@@vanjagalovic3621 That is probably without a doubt true. But I think in the case of DMC2, the entire rating system is awful, and may even be the most broken part of the game, to the point where if you focus your enjoyment of it on that one system of the game you're obviously going to have a bad time. Like, all I'm saying, nobody rates DMC5 on the variety of level designs. It's basically all hallways and arena sections. And if someone were to judge DMC5 entirely on that, it wouldn't do very well compared to say, DMC1 and DMC3, or even DmC.
The only good thing about this game is some of the designs, Dante in particular looks great, too bad he has pretty much no personality in this game though, although to be fair that's probably because he's just bored out of his goddamn skull because of how boring the game is, and I guess some of the OST is alright too.
...Oh my gosh, I realized Bloody Palace doesn't have any ranks in this games plus, in some strange coincidence this is the only game to allow you to use items in the bloody palace
You know what? With how Capcom has seemingly been able to reinvent games while staying true to form I'd like to see them try a DMC 2 remake keeping the story the same but shake up the game play a bit
Eh i don't know about that, RE2 was good as whole but it ruined some of the best moments in the game and cut out a lot. 3 cut out even more stuff than 2.
How does it compare if you use Trish instead of Dante? I know you have to beat the game on Hard to unlock her, but if I remember right she has a better move set than Dante
I always kinds liked dmc2 regardless of all its flaws This was a good video for its representation tho and I do agree with you in alot of it But I guess I'm happy I only ever played it once or twice You should deffo play god hand It got thrashed n I loved it
Oh and uh...Sly 4. Forgot to mention that.
WHY DID U DO THIS
respect for doing this
twice
Makes me wonder how the sly games would handle a ranking system
Gotta have my J's Reviews bingo card. Sly, Mega Man and Sonic are among the most common words!
You madman.
I have a friend who S ranked DMC2 and guess what, the style system in it is more broken than you realize. apparently, the style average ranking doesn't care if you skip enemies, so on some missions you can get a single S rank in combat and run to the end and get an S in style for the ENTIRE MISSION
Wut.
The newer games still have a similar problem. DMC5 straight up discourages you from fighting every enemy in the stage besides the ones it forces you to fight. Fighting a single enemy like those fly things at the beginning can tank your style since you can't get higher than a C later on because they die so quickly.
@@broom2839 Mission 10 in DMC5 is still fucking broken for this
This may sound really odd, but I'm glad games like this one and X7 are in compilations on modern platforms.
It can be easy to say "Oh, let the bad games rot in the past" or some such, but I believe bad games are as important to preserve as good ones, especially if they're ones like DMC 2 that, in the long run, had positive ripple effects on their series
The ripple effect being that DMC2 was so bad, that they worked extra hard on DMC3?
@@whodatninja439 I think so. The previous director "jumped shipped" as what I heard and itsuno didn't want to be known as that guy that made a bad game
@@whodatninja439 Believe it or not, you aren't entirely wrong.
If I recall correctly, the director was changed to Hideaki Itsuno halfway into development, and he would stay the lead for the series up through DMC 5
I agree 100%. Especially since I'm someone who wasn't able to experience Mega Man X7 back then. Heck, and I know I might cause a flame war, but..
I actually kinda liked X7 lol
@@whodatninja439DMC2 is also referenced in DMC5's novel as well. It isn't a long legacy but preservation is important.
We aren't getting a Capcom vault (think Nintendo with Galaxy 2) with DMC where only a few games make it to future platforms. I think Capcom could do a lot more since a lot of spinoffs of Megaman are unaccounted for, but now we don't need people to get an emulator or PS2 to experience what's wrong with X7.
The best thing about DMC2 is Dante design
The Ost was good too.
And trish
And Lucia
And DT designs
I think this design is pretty boring
17:59 I like how it says S A D in the Mission 18
My predominate emotion playing this
Always called Dmc 2's Stinger the Stumbler by how awkward Dante thrusted with it, looked like he was attempting a proper Stinger but tripped slightly only going half the distance it usually would.
Yea all the launcher moves such , the stinger doesn’t transition into the staby staby million staby move , and there is no enemy step either , i think, but if u use the devil trigger on certain move it gets a better effect , it extends the stinger while using it and the staby move can only be performed in devil trigger, and I hated the machine guns attached to Dantes hands on devil trigger , there overkill 😂😂😂, but can’t perform any cool moves with em , I think .
Lmao
i remember forcing myself to finish it... never played it again i can't imagine how hard (mentally) it was to get all the S rank in THIS game.... Well done J you are really brave
Same, it's bad, but it has the best animations, best devil trigger and coolest haircut.
I agree ( and i really like Dante's outfit) but the rest is so bad personally i can't play it.
@@Gabbag98 I’m playing rn I just unlock Trish but shit this game get on my nerves with the aim assist
@@Jack.Martson nice ! and yeah i hate the aim assist in this game
This summed up my experiences with DMC2 pretty accurately as well. Codex Entry did a video called, "The Importance of Playing on Hard", which stresses that when you play on the highest difficulty, both what the game does right and what it gets wrong become more obvious. That's definitely the case with Devil May Cry 2. On Normal and Hard, it's bland, but not offensive; however, kick it up to DMD and its problems become glaring and undeniable.
For me, the turning point was during my DMD run with Lucia. I couldn't beat Trismagia without using items, so I tried looking up videos to see how other people had done it and (not lying here) I COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE ONE. All the reference videos either used Super Mode or items. I know it's possible, since I've gotten very close myseelf, but what does that say about the quality of the game?
As someone who did all missions in DMC2 with and S rank on both discs and without items (yes, it is possible, albeit one of the bigger challenges in the series, IMO), I feel you. Playing for S ranks exposed the various level design issues so much, but in the end I consider the challenge worth it.
As for M12 on LMD, you have to be really, really lucky with Trismagia's pattern and use ice + offense + aerial heart and hope that the flame face comes close so you can spam aerial cross on it for big damage. If you can't kill the boss in under 3,5 cycles, restart (and that is without losing health, if you get B for health you must kill the boss in around 2 cycles or less, which requires much luck). As for videos, the only vid I saw was only showing the Trismagia boss fight with Lucia and it was from JavelinaDevil, which was still very useful for my run.
@@MTTKamikaze Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely give it a try when I decide to come back to DMC2. I'll also take a look at the video you mentioned. Have a great day! :)
@@jmonty1595 no problem, if you'd like more tips then remember to hit me up. For now I'll just say that flame/offense/aerial herts are the way to go with rapid fire kicks and dt into aerial cross, cranky bombs do a lot of damage, give a lot of dt and can be weaved between knives to not drop a combo, directional jumping can evade better than Lucia's dodges and a secret mission is needed to S rank M7 on LMD without items (otherwise use Trish)
the problems with this game are glaring and obvious even on normal mode. I actualy haven't finished the game because it's so awful I just got sick of it.
it's like the youtuber "hyve minds" said: the fact that this game is so easy is actually a blessing in disguise: the combat is so awful that because it's so easy you can at least get through it relatively quickly and you don't need to repeat it too many times. "god forbid if this game was kind of hard" which I assume, is what you get on higher difficulties.
i saw a DMC2 playthrough by Accounting Nightmare, who didn't use items and played on DMD
i also couldn't beat trismagia on DMD, that was my stopping point. AND I WAS PLAYING TRISH
It's utterly mind boggling how, even before maxing them out, Ebony and Ivory STOMP everything in this game. No need to do anything else, just stand back and shoot.
"I have a soft spot for DMC2 ..."
Mee too. It's a very nostalgic game for me. Playing this with my best friends, back in the good ol' day, after watching Vision of Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop on MTV/Viva. Ah, those were the days. But the game itself is garbage, there is no denying that. When I replayed it on my Switch, a few month ago, I only wanted it to finally end. The first playthrough was decent enough fun, but everything after that first playthrough is just a nightmare. Worst thing imho: That stupid fish boss on DMD with Trish!
DMC2 will break even the biggest apologist.
Lol right. How did u say anything good about this game yo haha
Literally, I played it for the first time and was loving the music and enemy design, DESIGN not gameplay. And set pieces/level aesthetic. Until... That fucking chopper fight, RIGHT then i started to realize how absurdly bad the game's combat is. There's legitimately no defense, i beat DMC1 on Dante Must Die. DMC2 is so brokenly easy it made me bored to tears, there was literally no point in the entire game where i was the slightest bit worried or on edge in fear of dying or what not
Incorrect. I love it
Yea I feel your pain, it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to maintain a combo just because the enemies keep bouncing away from you. And the camera certainly doesn't make thing easier.
You either finish the game as a hero, or try to S rank all of it and become insane.
I only ever finished it once with both Dante and Lucia then afterwards went on to play DMC3 without even bothering to unlock everything like I did with DMC1.
Or drop the game after fighting the chopper
@@saulgoodmansfingerr8527 That's a viable reaction, it's sad that Trish' first playable appearance is in this game
15:01 the end of J's DMC2 character arc.
Sad that you're dodging Lúcia, beating both campains on hard unlocks Trish and she hás DMC1 moveset and makes the game "actualy fun"
I always loved playing as lúcia and after knowing the trish part I'm shocked
That's really cool, too bad I'll never get it because DMC2 is an awful game and I don't want to touch it ever again.
There’s a code you can enter on your controller to unlock Trish earlier on! She’s by far the most fun character in the game.
Well done, there are some points that I can agree with such as getting required orbs from arius fights.
Although, there are couple of points I need to pick up from this as there are far better strats than the ones you are sharing. It's not worse than you think given the strategies and resources used here:
- Much like DMC 1, S ranking in DMC2 requires a lot of planning and research about the game.
- About stylish average. At S rank, for each 5000 additional style points, your point will be incremented by one to 6, 7, 8 etc. Therefore the claim that more singular S ranks >> one veeeery long S rank combo is false.
- Merciless may have range but you lose total amount of damage. Therefore, its much better to stick with rebellion or vendetta for even more damage. I see a lot of missile rocket
- Stinger does not do way more than other moves. High time does about the same damage as Stinger, round trip does even more, million stab and so on. There are techniques in this game that lets you use DT form moves without consuming them all. s and much more.
- 2 missiles fire from chopper should easily be recognisable from the sound alone rather than "I couldn't see them and procced to shoot " You can also destroy them with your guns which lets you gain free DT.
- The bats from M6 were not impossible if you destroy the boss's hand they will no longer be spawned. Additionally, bat gives you free DT. You get free roundtrips.
- Bolverk is free once you get to loop him with your round trip
I could go on more, but I only picked up the ones that matters
Why do you know this?.. not trying to be rude or anything but... why?
@@reeezzzziii World Record Holder in the game :)
@@LonerHero i must say that omr hell of a badass run
I endorse DMC2 remake.
Reboot
@@Saltyaf38 It needs a rewrite yes, but if they reboot it, they'll change Dante's design. They'll make him look like some realistic crappy tired from life old man instead of the kick ass demon hunter character he is in this game.
@Can a swallow swallow? I was talking about 5.
With the current combat system as well
When I first played DMC 2, I really wanted to unlock Trish; complete both Danté and Lucia's stories to unlock Hard, complete Danté's story on Hard to unlock her. And when I finally did, I was proud I unlocked her myself, and for me, the game is all the more fun because of it.
At least your not the guy who says "ThE rEbOoT iS wOrSe."
i got into it with that and i used to be that guy
think i would still rather play 2
The thing about the Reboot was that It lacks identity. In one way, it tried to be DMC but in another way, it wanted to become Heavenly Sword with the story. Combining Capcom Japan nagging with Tameem's self-centered jackass attitude at the time. It was a mess. Heck, the demo tester said it was a mess with bunch of bugs that you didn't intend to do it but it activate anyway and Style meter didn't even go down. Tameem said and I quoted "The game is perfect, there is nothing to fix." I needed to remind you all how bad DmC ver. 1.00 was. Capcom and the PC dev port had to force a patch and later a definitive Edition (which carry over most of the stuff from DMC3 and DMC4 at the basic level (not even combat depth)) to fix the game. The game is only ok action game but the identity crisis was there.
No. It's pretty much unanimous that bad as DmC is, DMC2 is even worse.
I haven't played the reboot in a while but I remember it being a good game just not a good Devil May Cry. If it was anything else it probably would've had a sequel by now
@@jaykelley103 I can't stand the reboot either, but i have to admit 2 is worse, at least in the reboot you cant shoot every enemy to death and hitting things with the sword had some satisfying impact, and the levels weren't just giant empty maps with nothing happening in them like most of 2's levels
I wish Capcom would remake Devil May Cry 2.
And keep the original soundtrack.
@@Maverick-65 and Dante's design
Ikr it really needs a remake
This game doesn't need remake. What it need is to be buried right next to E.T. game on some desert.
@Mychael G. I've been thinking about it a lot. Hypothetically they could have make a remake od DMC2... but why should they? There's no good reason to do it. After all it was the game that almost destroyed the franchise, I highly doubt they even like to talk about it in Capcom, not to mention seriously thinking about wasting money to make a better version of DMC2. And even IF , then
they would have to change almost everything, not just graphics, because almost everything in this game sucked. So I think it's more logical to make remake of 1st DMC or just newDMC with new story.
I played DMC 2 without knowing it's reputation either and I had fun playing. But at the end of the game I said to myself 'Man... this game was too easy.'
reminds me of trying to get pure platinum on bayonetta. Bayonetta is such a cathartic game if you DONT care about scores at all, but if you do try, you will see the dark corners of that game very quickly. Too many combos and weapons are discouraged because of how your points will get reduced more and more unless you spam the large punch and kick attacks frequently. the difference is that bayonetta was designed to be save scummed by restarting at check points by exiting to the title screen, when they really could have just owned up to the BS and had a retry button.
I haven't played all the PlatinumGames games, I even hear that MGR lets you choose sections, but I feel you as a The Wonderful 101 player.
Time, Style and Damage are an interesting trio to balance but time may be unclear till you have a guidebook or list. Same goes for style only it is so dynamic that you may need to study or focus on some exploits.
Damage... It seems good on paper but you need to master the more gimmicky segments where you might not have your parry or Ukemi if you even got it. It is also super linear.
Fortunately, there are cheat codes to get the bonuses I believe but it feels like they could use some rethinking of their approach. If it isn't easy to retry, why make it tedious to even start practicing?
Oh yeah, this is the reason I really do not like Bayonetta at all. Top it all off with bullshit hidden verses that tank your score. It’s not worth it.
Congrats :D this is how I felt with sonic 06 when I was younger.... thought it was some underrated gem then played it again and noticed how bad it is
J's Reviews "fucking atrocious camera" count: 2
13:58
Just went through S-Ranking Mission 1.
Thank god the trophy doesn't require all S-Ranks, I would've gave up after losing my mind.
Yeah, for DMC 2 I just stick to hard mode. Right there at 3:40 is why I come back to DMC 2. There’s something there that feels good playing around and experimenting with the DMC2 tool kit in its own way. What ruined DMD mode for me was how they have the enemies go into devil trigger. They gain super armor. Maybe this is how the other games are too, but the base difficulties and the harder modes in the other games are usually all the challenge I need. So I went into DMD for 2 seeking that standard level of challenge. But what goes wrong is after the set 15 seconds of battle, or whatever it is that the enemies have before they auto devil trigger, suddenly you’re playing a Devil May Cry with no collision detection. You’re doing damage but the lack of flinching enemies ruins my ability do my 3:40 thing.
Ultimately I just A-S ranked the whole game and left it that. I didn’t worry about being an S rank elitist too much precisely because I saw everything in this video coming from a mile away And I just want a chill time out of my DMCs.
DMC2 is one of the first video games I ever played. I still remember finishing it and finding out you needed a second disk to play as the girl but we didn’t have the second disk.
As someone who hadn’t played many games when you first played DMC2, how was the game in terms of difficulty? I’m curious to know.
@@JsReviews well I was about 7 years old and I remember I had to ask my uncle to beat 2 bosses for me; green octopus thing and final boss. The rest my cousin and I did by ourselves so not that hard if a 7 year old does it haha
I don’t know what to write but I’ll say that Orangguerra is a funny ass boss name.
You make this game look more fun than it is. I admire your skill though!
Getting one S rank for the platinum trophy was painful as is but getting all S ranks is something else. DMC2 is probably the hardest DMC game to fully S rank.
You've got the most stylish dmc 2 combos I've seen tbh that was epic.
Tell that to javelina devil
Imagine devil may cry 2 remade and Rewritten from the ground up where we explain that dante is depressed because virgil died in the first Dmc
That’s pretty much what’s considered the reason he’s depressed as well as Trish leaving.
Maybe he is just tired of hunting devils, dealing with corrupt humans and having to clean up daddy's mess etc.
I like to think that Dante is just too bored in DMC2
Then why he wasn't depressed in DMC4? There's no real reason why he acts like that in DMC2.
@@joshpl5451 because he met Nero, another part of his family, and his lost brother’s son. He was no longer alone, and he could be a mentor to Nero and guide him in the legacy of Sparda.
I platinumed this on my PS3 at the start of the year. Felt well chuffed. Granted I used a cheat to help me beat Bloody Palace but all the same I did it. I still think the game is fine. Not great, but a servicable action adventure game
Yeah :D
Title says everything.
I give you credit for making me wonder if I was too hard on DMC 2. If only for a minute or so before you started actually playing lol
7:45 Ok, I think I laughed a little harder than I should have at that joke.
11:54 The real DMC2 experience
DMC2 needs a remake, or a remaster with a overhaul rebalancing.
Where DMC2 plays more like the 3rd game, and able to switch between styles, weapons on the fly.
and then rebalance the weapons and monsters.
And maybe edit the story abit, like bosses with introductions, Bolverk needed one.
I love how he's guiding us and telling us the steps as if we'll ever put ourselves through this lmao
😂😂😂
Vergil wouldn't feel motivated about that...
Despite being a diehard DMC/Platinum/Character Action lifer who goes out of his way to get the max ranks on the max difficulties in any title, I never bothered with doing anything beyond playing dmc2 with all 3 characters on DMD. Thank you so much for doing it so I don't ever have to. Looks like pulling teeth. I'm sorry for your loss.
Did you get the dmc4 Plat? If yes did you get 5th one too? The only dmc I didn't Plat is 5 but im working on it as I'm writing this.
@@funnfungusie9622 I'm actually not sure what qualifies as "plat". Don't pay attention to chievos, but I've done SS runs on DMD for the nero/dante campaign, and beaten bloody palace as nero/dante/Vergil. The only thing left for me to do in 5 is a damageless DMD run as N/V/D and a deathless/damageless as Vergil. Should be easy with vergil, i was just a bit sloppy on my first run around. Also trying out the divergence mod so I can try doing Nero/Dante the full way through. No interest in inviting more V in my life. I got his bloody palace and i'll probably never touch him again. :P
@@Envoy15 Platinum trophy/ all achievements. If your at the point were you do damageless dmd, thats pretty much a plat and a half. Im having a real hard time doing the s ranks on dmd at the moment or even just surviving. Im a little less then halfway. At least i know its more then possible to do now.
@@funnfungusie9622 Only did damageless on dmc4 and under. Also didn't bother for the Deboot :P Which one are you working on? DMc4 isn't too bad so long as you develop/study strats for problem enemies and bosses, but dmc3 is a nightmare to do no damage. You have to really consider your build and what enemies you are fighting, and everything has much higher health. You also need to be aware of how to manage DT enemies. Leaving guys alive on life support while you combo down their friends, and then take out a group all at once with some DTE or other AoE moves is an important skill in DMC3, less so for the future games.
@@Envoy15 S ranks on dmd for dmc5. I like the games a lot but im not the best. Fresh off dmc 4 s ranks but those werent as difficult as i anticipated
JFC. Massive props for even doing this challenge. Just one playthrough of this game is bad enough.
Impressive playing. Cool to see footage of this game as its the only one I never completed. Ive only tried it briefly but will have to go through it for the kill one day. It always looked generic so I didnt take it seriously. Just completed DMC 4 special edition. It was cool to be able to play as other characters in that version.
I just played the game once, and once only, the game was meh, there was the other mode but I had no intent on playing it at all..
That's rough, buddy.
So... You did the S Rank hunt on... What difficulty? Normal or "Easy" mode? Hard or "Normal" mode? Or... Dante Must Die or "Buffed up Hard? Whatever difficulties it was (oh wait, you did in all 3 difficulties), you are really a S hunt slayer on the infamous DMC2 all the way.
I'm still playing DMC2 from time to time for the hell of it... But not for this. You are just Massochist, I *salute* you... Despite by the end of the day... You can't contain yourself.
“A real fan plays DMC 2” is equivalent to saying, “Don’t skip the leg day”.
Man I could almost never get a SHOWTIME because enemies kept dying before it could happen. So I'm puzzled to see it can actually be done.
Man this game sucks...
We need a remake of this game.
Just keep Dante's design, Lucia and the OST
I'm glad you finally realized what we were all saying, but It sucks that you had to go through something so painful just to finally cast out your rose tinted glasses.
I will always defend certain aspects of DMC2, and even like the character Lucia, but the game on the whole is NOT good.
Why did you do this to yourself J?
He's a truly is determined. It's inspirational
He's into hardcore BDSM.
I'm not kink shaming! BDSM is cool, I guess!
11:31 "take advantage of holding down R2 to turn off autolock" do you know how much suffering this could have saved me had I known this information yesterday. FUCK.
You picked THIS hill to die on? Its not even a fun game. This must be what pure masochism looks like.
just because of L'arlessane you gained a new subscriber
wonderful musical choice
DmC2 is good. First play Dmc5, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC3, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC4, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play DmC1, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play the DmC revoot, 100% it, do everything you can do.
Finally, with all other options exhausted... play bayonetta, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play bayonetta 2, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Dante's Inferno, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play MGR, 100% it, do everything you can do.then play God Hand, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Castlevania Lord of Shadows, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Ninja Garden, 100% it, do everything you can do. Then play Astral Chain, 100% it, do everything you can do.
Now, at last, if you REALLY need a beat em up. REALLY NEED IT. Go back and replay through DmC, it's probably been a while. Then finally, after all that, DMC2 might be worth a play through.
Hmm, no.
You forgot NMH
Also forgot Wonderful 101
@@Phoenixflara Maybe even vanilla Ninja gaiden 3
You scaring me now, ordynary men wouldn't get further that infected choper, but we my friend aren't ordynary men. I finnished blood palace and call it a herculan labor, but you ascended it.
This game broke the rule of the second game in any series being the best 😂
The best thing about dmc2 is the Diesel Jacket I own. My god, what a gorgeous jacket ❤️
Dmc 2 def is the worst out of all but i really liked the demon boss designs(besides octopus hydra boss and helicopter), played this when i was 11, but the FINAL boss, the giant and skeleton warrior were really fun to fight, your videos are great, keep it up.
I deadass hate myself, but I'll never hate myself enough to endure that much pain.
Lol finally, someone else who spent just as much time on this game as I have. Though the only reason for that is this was the only DMC game I had as a kid for a long time until I was able to play 1 and 3 again, and I even had a brady games strategy guide to it that my dad bought back when the game first was released. I still kinda go back to it and play with Trish for nostalgia sake since she plays exactly like DMC1 Dante, even with a significantly longer stinger than DMC2 Dante.
yall don't know true pain until you've played bloody palace in this game
17:24 Wait, why do you have to do that? I thought just beating Dante Must Die mode allows you to use it. Am I missing something here?
Because it's only available in certain regions; France happens to be one of them. I had to do that to complete Bloody Palace mode.
As someone who has played DMCA 3 or 4 for only 10-minutes or so 8 or so years ago. I'm not entirely sure why this was recommended to me. But hey, was a good video.
The freestyle 3min in actually made DMC2 look decent.
I really just watched an in depth video on how to S rank a game I will probably never touch again.
Hurts my soul because I did basically all the trophies for this before they were even a thing back in the PS2 days….sigh
Dude... you have any idea how long I've been grinding for a perfect DMC2 score card? Cool vid
Pure trophy hunter anxiety fuel. Well done!
Respect gained my friend.
*show respect
J May Cry 2 XD
15:03 holy shit catherine music i love that game so much
ok imma use this as a guide cause i want to s rank all devil may crys including DmC and Devil may cry 2
Look at you shootin' the works my friends.
it feels like saying any game is bad because if you go to the most hardcore version of it it is hard if not unfair or unfun because you have to do the same stuff to finish it...
it is like scoring a fire emblem game only by playing lunatic+ runs and forgeting about the normal gameplay, extreme difficulty is a thing that most people won't play because it is not enjoyable, i do enjoyed my lunatic run in awakening but i wont touch lunatic+
I sorta feel you. There are a lot of sticks to beat DMC2, but it seems like his recent revisit to the game for S ranks which is the basis of the video is where he came to the conclusion that it was irredeemable (not to X7 levels).
It isn't even that he is focusing on the difficulty alone but also getting a maximum score (which would be like Lunatic+ with no deaths for your allies) which is fair as that should be fun... but the more I think the less I think these scoring systems are that good as much as they are fine additions.
It is worth making sure that harder and lower difficulties do serve a clear niche at least. In simple terms, each one can be seen as a stepping block except Heaven and Hell (which is a weird speedrunner tool?) and the highest one shouldn't be some no man's land if possible.
I think you're missing the point. A lot of people here mostly subscribe to the idea that DMC2 is bad, or at the very LEAST super mediocre and boring, and he was, up to now, trying to defend the game and say it's better than people say it actually is. In an effort to prove his (unfortunately misguided) point, he attempted to take on the hardest challenge DMC games have to offer, which is S ranking every mission... which, instead of highlighting whatever few good points the game had, only served to show how miserable the game can really be if the player does decide to put that much effort in.
Challenge in a video game, in of itself, is SUPPOSED to help players appreciate the merits presented (be it many or few), but if the basics of the gameplay are so poor, then it'll only serve to actively fight against the player and make said player see the flaws in a much clearer way.
I think that's what he's getting at...
This game has such horrible visual design locations it made want to close my eyes more than 5 times
One of the combos i do is High time + E&B + High time but you must have a patience of a monk because it will bore you within minutes of doing it. I beat it twice with Dante and once with Lucia just to unlock Trish and after that i never touch this device of mental torture.
“This will be the last time I make a video on DMC2.” Would go on to Re review the game
Someone actually did it... not even I hate myself that much to do an all S on DMC2.
This video inspired me to also try to S rank all of dmc2, and after only about 2 weeks of trying I only have 1 mission left to S rank, mission 16, all on normal btw and I wouldn't call it a nightmare to S rank at all tbh, and I thought S ranking 14 was way easier than 12, wasn't even trying to S rank 14 when I did and 12 took forever because I'd always lose my combo on the boss
Me getting all S ranks on devil hunter made me love the game more and look forward to S ranking son of sparda and other difficulties, this guy doing dmc 2 all S made him hate it
DMC2 turned out to be so broken because most of it was mismanaged and the writing/directing were handled by a ghostwriter. Oh, and by the way, Itsuno was responsible for the "Here's your crown." one-liner from Dante against Arius; let's be thankful he and his team of talent saved Devil May Cry with the third mainline entry(DMC3 had Dante regain his cool and become the wisecracking badass and goofball was know today, as well as Vergil turning into one of the most iconic video game rivals; his dialogue will always be memeable and never be unmemorable). Lucia is just wasted potential tbh, but Nero was able to carry her poorly done execution of a secondary protagonist that later takes his/her place as the main lead, specifically in DMC4 and DMC5.
I have some good things to say about DMC2: it introduced Bloody Palace, Dante's design was awesome including the FMVs during his scenario(same goes with the Japanese commercial), and his guest star appearance in SMT3 Nocturne(the HD Remaster had Dante voiced by Reuben Langdon, tbh), the amulet gameplay feature was interesting while also giving us Shin Majin/True Devil Trigger(known as Sin Devil Trigger in DMC5 after it became canon), the soundtrack was stellar but it gets even better when Tetsuya Shibata returned to compose DMC3 & DMC4, and Trish is playable for the first time in this series; too bad you have to unlock her.
dmc2 is the only dmc i haven't played yet, but i can tell it looks way cooler than it actually is. it's like silent hill but with MGR combat.
We should at least be grateful that this game sold well enough for DMC3 to be greenlit, and for Itsuno’s strong refusal to let DMC2 be his sole contribution to the series be the thing that let him ask Capcom to give him DMC3 from the start.
Why has this video made me want to go back and play DMC 2? What have you done to me!!
Would you guys rather have a DMC2 Remake that makes all the changes necessary to the story, gameplay, enemies and environments that brings it up to par with the rest of the franchise or DMC6?
This video largely reminds me of why I grew to dislike No more heroes 2 - where the games inherent flaws aren't so crippling until a challenge is presented in the game and the cracks suddenly begin to actively fight against you.
I feel like judging a game on it's most hardcore, or worst aspects, isn't fair to a game. Just playing DMC2 casually is a very fun and atmospheric experience imo, even if there are a lot of issues with the game. I mean, I don't judge Sonic Adventure based on trying to play the A and B missions on Big the Cat. I feel like trying to beat DMC2 on S ranking all the missions is very intentionally shooting yourself in the foot in terms of enjoying it.
I think playing a game on the hardest difficulty showcases it's strenghts snd flaws the best.
@@vanjagalovic3621 That is probably without a doubt true. But I think in the case of DMC2, the entire rating system is awful, and may even be the most broken part of the game, to the point where if you focus your enjoyment of it on that one system of the game you're obviously going to have a bad time.
Like, all I'm saying, nobody rates DMC5 on the variety of level designs. It's basically all hallways and arena sections. And if someone were to judge DMC5 entirely on that, it wouldn't do very well compared to say, DMC1 and DMC3, or even DmC.
Oh well done, now can you do dmc3 SS rank run? :D
The only good thing about this game is some of the designs, Dante in particular looks great, too bad he has pretty much no personality in this game though, although to be fair that's probably because he's just bored out of his goddamn skull because of how boring the game is, and I guess some of the OST is alright too.
The real reason why Dante has no personality in this game is because the producer of the game didn't like dante's personality from the original.
...Oh my gosh, I realized Bloody Palace doesn't have any ranks in this games plus, in some strange coincidence this is the only game to allow you to use items in the bloody palace
You know what? With how Capcom has seemingly been able to reinvent games while staying true to form I'd like to see them try a DMC 2 remake keeping the story the same but shake up the game play a bit
Eh i don't know about that, RE2 was good as whole but it ruined some of the best moments in the game and cut out a lot. 3 cut out even more stuff than 2.
@@BygoneT It's not like cutting anything out of this game would be a waste
I got the platinum on DMC2 so i could set the game to rest indefinitely
Mission 18: SAD
How does it compare if you use Trish instead of Dante? I know you have to beat the game on Hard to unlock her, but if I remember right she has a better move set than Dante
Great video!
You like every other warrior of a Dmc player that has done this deserves a trophy
I remember playing dmc2 and levelled up ebony and ivory and called it a day
I always kinds liked dmc2 regardless of all its flaws
This was a good video for its representation tho and I do agree with you in alot of it
But I guess I'm happy I only ever played it once or twice
You should deffo play god hand
It got thrashed n I loved it
take a shot everytime he says restart
2 is like if minecraft had a sequel and it was only creative mode. sure you can still force yourself to have fun but the base game gets in its own way