I need to tell all of you people about my dad’s death which happened on his 93rd birthday 2018. Dad was dying in his own darkened bedroom laying on a rented hospital bed, he was under hospice care and there was a nurse who told my mother that he was fighting his death because he didn’t want to leave my mom alone. They had been married 73 years. Mom told him it was okay to go. A little while later he started talking about seeing Redbirds and then a few minutes later he said, “ Oh thank you for bringing in the light, it helps a lot, “ nobody had turned on an extra light but he saw it. Then he raised up his arm and held out his hand and said, “Jesus.” Then he expired. I believe Our Lord came for him. Dad was a very good man who brought my mother and his children all to Christ. He was a true guardian of his family.
I sure wouldn’t call listening to this as fun. You must be rather sick to say something so bizarre. I think it’s painful and heartbreaking to hear how much Our Lord suffered for our salvation. I am driven to tears listening to this horror story and I can’t imagine how people could be so cruel to any human being much less Jesus who was pure Love and a Man who was gentle, kind and taught mankind about God. This presentation is educational and tell us so much history and science that has showed us about Jesus Christ.
My husband was a chemical engineer who worked for the Defense Department. My husband knew Raymond Rogers who helped develop scientific equipment that was used to study topography to be used when planning landing sites for the moon landing and probably for other purposes. The tool was called the VP8 analyzer. It was used to study pictures of the Shroud which showed real contours of the face. Ray told my husband that while he was studying it he had a dream that an angel came to him and told him to quit studying the Shroud that God didn’t want them to prove it was genuine that He wanted people to believe in it by faith alone. He changed a lot after studying the Shroud.
Wow, that's straight out of John 20:29 - Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
❤❤❤ Thank you for EVERYTHING. This message is needed for a healing process for EVERYONE TO STAND IN FAITH in believing and trusting in GOD'S PROMISES OF OUR LAMB OF GOD BLOODSHED OF THE CROSS GREATEST LOVE OF ALL... OUR COMFORTER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF BEING BORE AGAIN OF GOD AS GOD POURS THE HOLY SPIRIT INTO OUR HEARTS... THANK YOU, LORD IN JESUS NAME AMEN.❤❤❤
When I see the pain, torture, and injury inflicted on the image all I can say is "Jesus my saviour I am so sorry for my sins" I love you with all my heart" and even tough I haven't seen YES I do believe🙏
Thank you for being our perfect sacrifice, LORD JESUS. As the grateful father of a much loved son, I am in awe of God’s sacrifice too. We are not worthy. Please forgive us.
Wow, just wow !!! Love, Love, Love this !!! Thank you Lord Jesus for your wonderful gift of salvation !!! When I think of how much pain and agony that He went through for me, a sinner doomed to hell, I can’t hardly contain myself !!! I can’t wait til the day I get to see Jesus face to face !! What a wonderful day that will be !!!!
David (presenter), to be born again means to be born of Spirit and water, ie Baptism. The sacraments of the Church cling us to Christ. Breathtaking presentation.
I believe it is the Lord Jesus Christ. All evidence points to it. He suffered so much. The shroud is so precious. A reminder to us of how He suffered for our sins
The shroud points to our redemption and our coming ressurection.Just imagine,we are going away.So pliz set your houses in order and prepare for a grand lift off...Lord Jesus we await your coming .
I have seen numerous video presentations of The Shroud, and this is truly one of the best! This man has presented great great evidence and there is no question as to why he is doing these presentations. This is the face and image of Jesus Christ Himself. John 3:16, John 14:6
I totally believe it is genuine and it is Our Lord Jesus and it just crushes my heart to think that human beings could ever do this to anybody much less Our Savior. How could they be so cruel, I’m sure those people who did this are burning in hell for all eternity. The painting shows a loin cloth but He was completely naked because they stripped Him of His clothes to humiliate Him. Every cruelty was done to Him.
@@patsmith5947 Hi Pat, after I saw it in the late 1980’s in Atlanta, and read of every wound that was inflicted upon our precious Lord Jesus, I cried my heart for over four hours, have never experienced such heartbreak! ✝️🛐🙏
Thank you Lord Jesus for thinking of us when you could have easily escaped or just let us all go to Hell. But oh how you love us when we didn’t deserve it. ❤️😭🙏🏻✝️ 👑 ❤️
My precious eleven year old daughter is now in his presence and has been in precious Jesus who died for us presence for 22 years never doubt his power devotion and his awesome love for us she has enjoyed 22 more years than I will thank you precious Jesus for your suffering and pain so we can enjoy this life even after such a painful loss knowing you paid the price for our sin so we can have peace now and forever with him praise precious Jesus
I do not need to see it to believe, but a part of me wants to see it. Even with evidence, there are those who will not believe, and for them I pray! I've never seen anything about the shroud until this video, and I'm happy this is the one I chose!
Great start to his presentation, the way it should be done. Good speaker, very good presentation, moves quickly from display to display. Has great knowledge of the shroud and head cloth.
Thank you Lord for the unconditional Salvation. We just ask for forgiveness and to save us. Thats all he asks of us and to live our lives according to his will. The precious blood of our all mighty Savior
Doubtful. In 1578, the house of Savoy moved the shroud to the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, which later became part of Italy. It has remained there ever since, with the exception of World War II, when Italy relocated it for safekeeping.
Thank you, David, for an amazing presentation. We had seen your presentation several years ago and it is so scientific and reverent...reason and faith together. God bless you and your work.
Dont have to convince me I believe and I believe in Jesus How can anyone deny Him I did at a time in my life but let me tell you Jesus NEVER gave up on me Now I love Him so much and one day I will be with Him forever more
The entire WORLD would truly BENFIT from this informational UA-cam video regarding the Greatest Man On Earth !!! Let all believer's share the belief of the most controversial Jewish man throughout TIME. Blessed be to all Human's throughout time. Forget what scientist say they not not the BELIEF of souls of time.
Here is more proof that the Shroud is authentic. Paintings and drawings of Jesus have been roughly the same for thousands of years yet nowhere in the bible does it give a verbatim description of Jesus.
Catholicism contradicts the Bible. Salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. Jesus said it is finished. We are not saved by works or sacraments. We do not pray to Mary we pray to the Father thru Jesus. We do not confess sins to a priest we confess to the Father through Jesus. Turn from trusting in Catholic traditions and trust in Christ alone.
I declare that this is authentic. I of course am a Shroudie. I was 2 feet away from His Shroud. I have been changed forever. Combine this with Guadalupe and you will believe too!
You can't get within 10 feet of it when it's on display. And if you're standing any closer that 10 feet you can't really, actually see the image, it is so feint.
The evidence is overwhelming this is the image of Jesus Christ supernaturally embedded on the burial cloth. He took the most incredible punishment for what I deserved because of my sin. I will praise Jesus in heaven forever for providing salvation ! God loves us so much
Great presentation I believe this is christ burial cloth Iwould love to see it one day, some people dont want to say its jesus they would if they had their way try make people think he never existed, they fear the truth, it scares them ,they know its him
The face of God...without doubt and science is proving it...God left this as a gift for man. God allows us to see aspects of his universe. The body and light of resurrection, billions of watts, is the horizon of a singularity, the body transforms itself as God transfigures Jesus his son. How wonderful we have this relic. Thank you Jesus...for your abiding love and gift of eternal salvation.
Don't put your non-belief on me this is what the Bible teaches rather y'all like it or not deal with it pick up the book and reed it !! I did you are showing your laziness 📜👈
We had a picture of our Lord’s face, (the image from the shroud) as we grew up, and being a child, I never really doubted it was really Jesus. What I learn nowadays is making me look anew, and I am awed by the truth. Poor, beautiful Jesus. How he suffered for us.
When a museum quality replica of the Shroud is set up back lit in the Sun, and you walk to the left or right of it, the image vanishes. that is a holographic observation Photos and paintings do not do that. The reason the image vanishes is because to see a holographic image you must view it in the direction the light was traveling when image was created, in the case of the Shroud that is straight out of body so one must look at it straight on to see it clearly. It is not possible to make a holographic image with the human hand. holograms are created by bouncing adiffracted laser light off the object and creating a interference pattern. image process on shroud is a holographic process in which an interference pattern was created by a light energy that radiated from within the body then made contact with the linen while body was levitated between the 2 halves of the cloth. To make a hologram the object being replicated cannot touch the film plate, in this case the film plate is the linen
Thanks for that explanation. I never understood the significance of it being a holographic image before but now it makes sense to me why that's so important.
@@TF80s the holographic property if the Shroud is just one of dozens of mysterious properties contained within that piece of linen. There are so many things a forger would have to be aware of that knowledge of in the 14th and 15th centuries in the Shroud. They would have had to been a 20th or 21st century level, world-class expert in photography, biology, botany, hematology, minerals, textiles, chemistry, anatomy, radiology, plus had an extensive knowledge of Roman weaponry, ancient and first century Jewish burial customs, and much more. First, they would have to have produced a linen cloth in the exact proportions as was customary at the time of the resurrection, with a very specific 3 over 1 herringbone weave that had been out of use for more than 1,000 years. They would have to be able to do all of this on their own, in secret, telling no one, and creating this entire Shroud and then never using the technique ever again. They would have had to have had intimate knowledge of and access to the Sudarium of Oviedo, being able to match not only the blood patterns exactly, but the extremely rare AB-blood type, 500 years before ANYONE knew there were different blood types (discovered in 1901). Only 6% of all humans have type AB- blood. They would have had to have known about a tortured body's production of bilirubin, even though it is invisible to the naked eye, yet the blood stains on the Shroud are saturated in bilirubin. Anyone who denies that the Shroud of Turin is authentically the burial cloth of Jesus is lying to themselves. I can certainly understand how absolutely terrifying such a prospect must be for those whose lives have been wasted in denial of God, and Jesus. I wouldn't want to have something I have refused to believe all my life turn out to be true. I imagine that admitting the truth would cause them to lose friends, family members, prestige, standing in the secular world . . .
@@TF80s the Shroud also has forensically accurate depth information. Confirmed by a scientific instrument a VP .8 analyzer. Only two image processes in the world contain forensically accurate depth information, holograms and mri's magnetic resonance image. It is not possible to create this type of information on linen with the human hand. The front and back image on the Shroud is a complex variation of shades of light and dark that create the optical illusion of depth forensically accurate to a man approximately 5 ft 11 175 lbs. There is no way this is man-made. That is a certainty.
@@jeffscully50613 yeah it is stated by some that this is some type of man-made image,. As you have pointed out so clearly these kind of explanations veer off the main highway of 21st century forensic science, logic and clear thinking and goes down a dark side road that literally leads straight into crazy Town and off the edge of a cliff.
We had a priest that did a lot of studies on the shroud rinaldi from corpus christi port Chester ny wrote a book back in the 80'... I believe in OUR HEAVENLY FATHER and his SON And the HOLY GHOST get yourself straight with OUR HEAVENLY FATHER because HIS SON in coming soon
I believe Jesus NEVER even cried out in pain. Not because he didn't feel it but because he was not resisting it. He WANTED to feel EVERY ounce on our behalf! That could also be why he was no mercilessly beaten. They were trying to get a reaction out of him.
This really straightens my faith when he said that if you fold the napkin and put it to the side,it tells us he is coming back and he is not done yet...I needed to hear that in my heart to rejoice because so much distractions and lies about everything that we hold dear is being threaten by this new president.. PLEASE .COME LORD OF HOST PLEASE COME QUICKLY amen
I feel the truth of the shroud could only be made 100% since this century. I feel as a witness to this time in the last days before the Rapture and the end of the age.
The side wound is 4cm in width. Same width of a 1st Century Roman Lancea. I suppose that is some random stroke of incredible luck right? I don't think so.
The shroud of turin is false,here is why? The man pictured in the shroud has a full beard.the night of HIS arrest during the indescribable torture inflicted on HIM,they plucked out HIS BEARD.ISAIAH 50:6,”I GAVE MY BACK TO THOSE WHO TORTURED ME,AND MY FACE TO THOSE WHO TORE OUT MY BEARD” The man in the shroud also had shoulder length hair.the protocol for the length of a jewish man’s hair was from the base of the palm to the top of the palm,approx.4 to 5 inches. The shroud has the image of a man from head to toe,when in reality the jews buried their dead in a burial shroud from the feet to the top of the chest and a separate cloth wrapped around the head. JOHN 20:7,AND THE NAPKIN THAT WAS AROUND HIS HEAD WAS IN A SEPARATE PLACE”. As YOU CAN SEE,IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE “shroud of turin”was the burial cloth of JESUS.
The Vulture you have to have faith in the word of GOD. JESUS SAID,”ISAIAH 50:6,I GAVE MY BACK TO THE SMITERS AND MY CHEEKS TO THEM THAT PLUCKED OUT MY BEARD”even if they only plucked out some of his beard the image has a full beard. The image also has shoulder length hair ,the hair length for jewish men at that time was from the base of the fingers to the base of the palm of the hand. The image was carbon dated to approx,twelfth century A D. an artist from that time period would be more than capable to make a simple image such as that. Jewish men were buried in a sheet that went from the neck to the feet and a seperate washcloth to cover the face.JOHN 20:7,”AND THE NAPKIN THAT WAS ABOUT HIS HEAD WAS NOT LYING WITH THE LINEN CLOTHES BUT WAS IN A PLACE BY ITSELF.yalso the men at that time were between 5feet and5feet 4 inches tall .if the shroud is an accurate representation of HIS height,HE would have stuck out like a sore thumb. In the garden when they came to arrest HIM ,judas had to betray him with a kiss because HE Looked just like everyone else,and they wanted to be sure they got the right one! Study the bible and ask GOD for discernment.
@@savedbygrace8867 You need to educate yourself. Catholism is the true faith, anyone outside the Church are either heretics or in schism, as are all Protestants or any of the thousands of knock-offs. You Protestant's, Luciferians, Baptists etc, etc, do realize you follow the teachings of man right, and not of God? You have no clue on how to interpret scripture, none whatsoever, as is obvious from your original comment and from your FB name. "Saved by Grace", "Faith alone"- A Protestant lie.
@@thevulture5750 Faith alone does not save, you must be baptised in water and have a true faith and then only through God's Grace are we saved. And that my friend comes from our works in life. Works meaning doing as God intends us to do.
How can anyone fake such a thing? Literally how on Earth can you think that any human can "draw" without paint the negative photorealistic image of someone, back then when they didn't even know about perspective! The best art looked like it was made by children, yet they made this, that even today we can't replicate. ...wtf
james pong Please don’t use foul language when speaking of Jesus. You speak well and defend Our Lord then you ruin it. I am so tired of this generation using that word constantly, it is a disgusting, crude word that is meant to be very insulting.
@@jamespong6588 Thank you, Jesus loves us and gave His life for us. He forgives us if only we ask. He saves us if we believe in Him and try to live better lives.
My own view is quite straightforward:- if the shroud of Turin is real and authentic then Jesus was the one true Messiah, the son of God, and everything in the Bible is true.
Well I’d be careful with that. Even if the shroud wasn’t the actual cloth that was used for Jesus (I believe it Is but just for the sake of argument) that doesn’t disprove or prove anything. View it as a reminder that Jesus underwent a horrible ordeal as a sacrifice to humanity, not as proof that the Bible is real. We trust that what the Bible says is true, no matter the scrutiny it’s put under. Physical evidence like the shroud are nice and helps reaffirm our faith, but faith is about trust and needing materialistic proof isn’t relying too much on trusting the Bible. So use it as a good reminder, not the basis for your faith :)
@@thegreatballplayer1 Hi Greg, I should clarify. I have no faith or belief, I am in fact a complete atheist, but if the shroud is proven to be real and authentic, then I would have no choice but to become a Christian and change my view to a believer.
@@captpicard6894 There is other evidence backing the Bible as well - look into Sodom & Gomorrah for example, there is a well made presentation about that from Ross Patterson - that one is fascinating! .. or into the findings of Noah's Ark by Ron Wyatt. .. and please, don't make the mistake of taking fraudulent churches as an example of people really believing the Bible and living according to God's will, above all don't take the Roman Catholic Church as legitimately/truly christian.
Can you think of any other explanation? Artwork that would require techniques that didnt exist at that time? Artwork that can't be recreated? Blood, fibers, microsopic evidence of where the soil and thorns originated from..a fake? It's too much overwhelming evidence to deny, well atleast for me!
Shroud needs to be credited as the first Photograph. The word “” literally means “drawing with light” Photo = Light Graph = Image Light image. That alone is an amazing thing not to mention for the image to be made the body needed to be the source of light. Also all light is radiation all energy is.
The same thing happened in the transfiguration at the mount of olives where Christ was transformed , Our lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the real deal.
Pl read the Dolorous Passion of Christ by Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich a mystic and she explains what she saw in her visions and how the image on the shroud was created. It is amazing. Pl do check it out as the book is available in PDF.
Hi From Jesus’s point of view, after providing this irrefutable proof, He is justified in saying to them at the Last Judgment ‘ You have no excuse’. Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.
Topic : The properties of the Shroud of Turin To all those geniuses, that claim that it is a painting produced by a medieval painter circa 1500 AC, please find another painting (work of art from any period by ANY painter ) that when photographed would produced and exhibits the properties produced (a 3 dimensional positive of a negative) in the Shroud of Turin. The date is irrelevant (whether its a modern or ancient work of art) because what I am focusing here on this post is on the PROPERTIES which the Shroud exhibits when studied by competent scientists in a control environment . My main claim is that these properties are ONLY found in the Shroud of Turin and NO were else on planet earth therefore it is NOT a work of art made by a man but it is a miracle performed by Jehovah God himself. The day that anyone could duplicate the results/properties of the Shroud of Turin in a man made painting then I will believe it is a painting, till then I will acknowledge it as the Shroud linen that covered the dead body of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ preserved by a miracle performed by ALL MIGHTY Jehovah God (The Father) himself.
Concerning the dating in which it was made , my opinion (which I could be wrong on it) is that it is the burial Shroud linen of our Lord Jesus Christ. My main claim on this post , which is a FACT, is that it was made by Jehovah God and NOT by man. Why I state it as a FACT ?, because the PROPERTIES it exhibits ,which NO man has been able to replicate. This Shroud was NOT made by human hands but by Jehovah God himself. To all you atheists and unbelievers I say this; bring me an example of another painting, from any period in history , that has the SAME properties (when studied in a control environment) that the Shroud of Turin has/exhibits and I will be convinced it is a forgery/fake produced by a man. Are you up to the challenge at hand?, if you are then LETS THE GAMES BEGIN.
We read in John 19: 38-40 that Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea took Christ's body and prepared it for burial using 75 lbs of aromatic spices and ointments. From what I understand, there is no residue of such spices on this cloth. Shouldn't there be?
John Barron good point. We’re the “myrrh and aloes” places on the body or just in the tomb to overcome the smell? We know the women were bringing more on the first day of the week and surely they weren’t going to open the tomb to put more on the body. They were just going to leave them at the entrance to hide the rotten smell.
I'm not sure if it was not really mentioned in the video but I read a book about the Shroud and it was mentioned there that during the STURP project they also found in the shroud several traces of spices indigenous in the Mideterranean.
Absolute believer in the Shroud's authenticity but.... excited by learning something new, I pounced on the 8x2 cubit story, having only heard of this measurement from scripture, to find that it wasn't exclusively Jewish but was also used by the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians. The measurement is from the middle finger tip to the elbow and the name cubit is itself derived from the Latin for elbow. How would a medieval forger know that though? Apparently the measurement was used right up until the modern era, and is still in use in some parts of the world even now. A shame. Good lecture though, praise God.
In 1985 I was 13 at the shrine of the blessed virgin at Mount Mellary Ireland, the statue of our lady became brighter than white and shone, it moved out from the rocks and the image of Jesus Christ began to appear in its place, he was in a bright white robe, a black sash around hs waist, his hair was dark shoulder length, his heart was outside his chest,he appeared white, his hands were by his sides palms facing forward with the wounds of crucifixion visable, I couldn't tell his height, tears rolled from my eyes, not because I was weeping, it just was like my body was doing its own thing, I was taken to a little hut that had windows cut out, no glass, I blinked as in a situation like ths you will try to assure yourself what your seeing as real, when I called him in my mind, I said his name Jesus Christ, before I could say his name he responded to my thought and slowly turned his head until he was staring right at me, I looked as long as I could and hung my head, his look made me feel something that to this day struggle with, I mustered my strength and looked back up, he was still looking at me, I looked at him as long as I could which was only about 5 to 10 seconds and I had to hang my head again, I belive I felt the weight of sin beneath his gaze, I am a lowly and vile sinner, somtimes I belive that he let me see him to show me his unfathomable mercy and love as he knew then all the terrible sins I would commit but still his love was greater than anything I could ever do, other times I remember the strong thout that struck me that evening in my aunts house, that maybe it's for somone else, someone who needs to hear my testomony of the realty of what happened that day, what I can tell you with total faith, is that Jesus Christ is rean, you need to know about his firece sidde that some girls and I saw, I can tell you that I think of that moment many times throughout the day, my one regret is that I didn't throw myself facedown on the ground I front of him, look up Mount Mellary apparitions on UA-cam, there's video from the week during the visions and eye witness testimony, hope this helps you in your journey too the Father through Jesus Christ, Ave Maria I belive the shroud is the truth and is the image of Jesus who I saw in 1985 I mout Mellary
I need to tell all of you people about my dad’s death which happened on his 93rd birthday 2018. Dad was dying in his own darkened bedroom laying on a rented hospital bed, he was under hospice care and there was a nurse who told my mother that he was fighting his death because he didn’t want to leave my mom alone. They had been married 73 years. Mom told him it was okay to go. A little while later he started talking about seeing Redbirds and then a few minutes later he said, “ Oh thank you for bringing in the light, it helps a lot, “ nobody had turned on an extra light but he saw it. Then he raised up his arm and held out his hand and said, “Jesus.” Then he expired. I believe Our Lord came for him. Dad was a very good man who brought my mother and his children all to Christ. He was a true guardian of his family.
Thank you for the story.
Great story Praise The Lord
Yes, hospice nurses tell many stories like this. They also tell frightening stories. I'm glad this was a good one and that it comforts your family.
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Beautiful story, thanks for posting.
WOW AWESOME!!!!! THANK YOU for sharing this!!!! Blessings To God Be the Glory
I love you Jesus 🙏
I LOVE JESUS 💓
I’m having so much fun watching this. Jesus will forever be my king!!!
I sure wouldn’t call listening to this as fun. You must be rather sick to say something so bizarre. I think it’s painful and heartbreaking to hear how much Our Lord suffered for our salvation. I am driven to tears listening to this horror story and I can’t imagine how people could be so cruel to any human being much less Jesus who was pure Love and a Man who was gentle, kind and taught mankind about God. This presentation is educational and tell us so much history and science that has showed us about Jesus Christ.
@@patsmith5947 grow a pair.
I'm a Shroudie too. I became interested in this in the middle 70's and I believe it truly is the Shroud of Christ.
Extraordinary organization of complicated data cleanly presented.
My husband was a chemical engineer who worked for the Defense Department. My husband knew Raymond Rogers who helped develop scientific equipment that was used to study topography to be used when planning landing sites for the moon landing and probably for other purposes. The tool was called the VP8 analyzer. It was used to study pictures of the Shroud which showed real contours of the face. Ray told my husband that while he was studying it he had a dream that an angel came to him and told him to quit studying the Shroud that God didn’t want them to prove it was genuine that He wanted people to believe in it by faith alone. He changed a lot after studying the Shroud.
Glorious!🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow, that's straight out of John 20:29 - Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
❤❤❤ Thank you for EVERYTHING. This message is needed for a healing process for EVERYONE TO STAND IN FAITH in believing and trusting in GOD'S PROMISES OF OUR LAMB OF GOD BLOODSHED OF THE CROSS GREATEST LOVE OF ALL... OUR COMFORTER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF BEING BORE AGAIN OF GOD AS GOD POURS THE HOLY SPIRIT INTO OUR HEARTS... THANK YOU, LORD IN JESUS NAME AMEN.❤❤❤
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When I see the pain, torture, and injury inflicted on the image all I can say is "Jesus my saviour I am so sorry for my sins" I love you with all my heart" and even tough I haven't seen YES I do believe🙏
Thank you for being our perfect sacrifice, LORD JESUS. As the grateful father of a much loved son, I am in awe of God’s sacrifice too. We are not worthy. Please forgive us.
So true, we are definitely not worthy of his sacrifice. God have mercy on our souls.
Amen, we certainly are not worthy of His glorious sacrifice. Praise Him forever! ♥️✝️🛐
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Wow, just wow !!! Love, Love, Love this !!! Thank you Lord Jesus for your wonderful gift of salvation !!! When I think of how much pain and agony that He went through for me, a sinner doomed to hell, I can’t hardly contain myself !!! I can’t wait til the day I get to see Jesus face to face !! What a wonderful day that will be !!!!
David (presenter), to be born again means to be born of Spirit and water, ie Baptism. The sacraments of the Church cling us to Christ. Breathtaking presentation.
Watching from Philippines. Very good speaker, he was engaging and lively. Good presentation. Praise The Lord Jesus ❤️
I believe it is the Lord Jesus Christ. All evidence points to it. He suffered so much. The shroud is so precious. A reminder to us of how He suffered for our sins
Thank you Lord Jesus.AMEN
The shroud points to our redemption and our coming ressurection.Just imagine,we are going away.So pliz set your houses in order and prepare for a grand lift off...Lord Jesus we await your coming .
Oh my Jesus. Forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to Heaven especially those most in need of thy mercy. Amen
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I have seen numerous video presentations of The Shroud, and this is truly one of the best! This man has presented great great evidence and there is no question as to why he is doing these presentations. This is
the face and image of Jesus Christ Himself. John 3:16, John 14:6
I’m a “Shroudie” , I’ve seen it and know it is real, I’ve never been the same since.
lucky you...one of my greatest wish is to see it before I die
PRAISE AND GLORY.AMEN
I would love to see it!
I totally believe it is genuine and it is Our Lord Jesus and it just crushes my heart to think that human beings could ever do this to anybody much less Our Savior. How could they be so cruel, I’m sure those people who did this are burning in hell for all eternity. The painting shows a loin cloth but He was completely naked because they stripped Him of His clothes to humiliate Him. Every cruelty was done to Him.
@@patsmith5947 Hi Pat, after I saw it in the late 1980’s in Atlanta, and read of every wound that was inflicted upon our precious Lord Jesus, I cried my heart for over four hours, have never experienced such heartbreak! ✝️🛐🙏
The best Presentation about The Shroud ever! ❤️✝️
Thank you Lord Jesus for thinking of us when you could have easily escaped or just let us all go to Hell.
But oh how you love us when we didn’t deserve it. ❤️😭🙏🏻✝️ 👑 ❤️
My precious eleven year old daughter is now in his presence and has been in precious Jesus who died for us presence for 22 years never doubt his power devotion and his awesome love for us she has enjoyed 22 more years than I will thank you precious Jesus for your suffering and pain so we can enjoy this life even after such a painful loss knowing you paid the price for our sin so we can have peace now and forever with him praise precious Jesus
I'm so great full for what Jesus done for us, but it break's my heart how he suffered.
Me too.
I do not need to see it to believe, but a part of me wants to see it. Even with evidence, there are those who will not believe, and for them I pray! I've never seen anything about the shroud until this video, and I'm happy this is the one I chose!
They still can’t replicate the shroud in the 21st century
Doesn't surprise me
Nor will they ever.
The greatest soul that ever walked this Earth. Truely born of the Divine Spirit. He lives in my heart and l love my Lord Jesus. 🙏 Peace and blessings.
To Joel: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
Hi is the king lord Jesus , I have tears watching this video I love him with all my heart have fath in Jesus
Great start to his presentation, the way it should be done. Good speaker, very good presentation, moves quickly from display to display. Has great knowledge of the shroud and head cloth.
Thank you Lord for the unconditional Salvation. We just ask for forgiveness and to save us. Thats all he asks of us and to live our lives according to his will. The precious blood of our all mighty Savior
Ever read Isaiah 45:7?
Too too wonderful,I’ve watched many many films and talks on this subject . But this is simply outstanding Sooooo beautiful thank you .
Amazing presentation. Have mercy on us and the whole world.
Top vid Amen, its definitely our king JESUS Christ🙏❤
I totally agree ! Praise the LORD!!!
I was fortunate to see The Shroud of Turin in my teens while it was on an exhibition tour. 🙏
That's amazing. You saw the actual shroud that wrapped around Christ. Could you see much.
Doubtful. In 1578, the house of Savoy moved the shroud to the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, which later became part of Italy. It has remained there ever since, with the exception of World War II, when Italy relocated it for safekeeping.
@@jeffscully50613 how do you know she didnt go to Turin, Italy to see it, maybe that was the location where she saw it : )
@@joemchang because I read her post. It said she saw it when it was on tour.
Ok i dont know
Thank you, David, for an amazing presentation. We had seen your presentation several years ago and it is so scientific and reverent...reason and faith together. God bless you and your work.
Dont have to convince me I believe and I believe in Jesus How can anyone deny Him I did at a time in my life but let me tell you Jesus NEVER gave up on me Now I love Him so much and one day I will be with Him forever more
When you see the Shroud of Turin. You are Looking into the Face of the SON OF GOD. Yashua (Jesus The CHRIST)! Have Faith.
Excellent Info - and I believe both scientifically and spritually that this is authentic!
Jesus is King 👑 🙏 there can be no other and only someone as supernatural as Him could leave us such proof 🙏😇
The entire WORLD would truly BENFIT from this informational UA-cam video regarding the Greatest Man On Earth !!! Let all believer's share the belief of the most controversial Jewish man throughout TIME. Blessed be to all Human's throughout time. Forget what scientist say they not not the BELIEF of souls of time.
Here is more proof that the Shroud is authentic. Paintings and drawings of Jesus have been roughly the same for thousands of years yet nowhere in the bible does it give a verbatim description of Jesus.
Only GOD himself could of done this.
The Alpha and the Omega.
I am a CHRIStian..i am a Catholic...i am a Shroudie...ilove you JESUS❤
Catholicism contradicts the Bible. Salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. Jesus said it is finished. We are not saved by works or sacraments. We do not pray to Mary we pray to the Father thru Jesus. We do not confess sins to a priest we confess to the Father through Jesus. Turn from trusting in Catholic traditions and trust in Christ alone.
This is a wonderful presentation of The Shroud and I’ve listened to many.one of the best!
David, great job! Congrats on getting 45K views too! You are reaching a lot of people. May they all be blessed by your excellent presentation.
I'm a shroudie . It's simply undeniable and the only logical explanation is in the gospels. That is the resurrection of Christ.
You dont need a shroud to know jesus is the real deal but this is evidence to a doubting Thomas
That was spell binding..the shroud is the image of the lord no doubt.
I believe!
I declare that this is authentic. I of course am a Shroudie. I was 2 feet away from His Shroud. I have been changed forever. Combine this with Guadalupe and you will believe too!
You can't get within 10 feet of it when it's on display. And if you're standing any closer that 10 feet you can't really, actually see the image, it is so feint.
WOW THIS IS REALLY GOOD!
The evidence is overwhelming this is the image of Jesus Christ supernaturally embedded on the burial cloth. He took the most incredible punishment for what I deserved because of my sin. I will praise Jesus in heaven forever for providing salvation ! God loves us so much
Thank God I am a believer, thank God Jesus came and left enough evidence for us, within our hearts and also for our eyes to see.
They beat Him savagely, and He just took it.
They tried to kill Him, and they failed.
We would want revenge for what they did, but He forgave them.
AMEN
Amen
Excellent presentation !
Thank you for posting this.
Words can not express . . . 💔💖
God knew this would be studied to the core and its amazing to me.
Great presentation I believe this is christ burial cloth Iwould love to see it one day, some people dont want to say its jesus they would if they had their way try make people think he never existed, they fear the truth, it scares them ,they know its him
The face of God...without doubt and science is proving it...God left this as a gift for man. God allows us to see aspects of his universe. The body and light of resurrection, billions of watts, is the horizon of a singularity, the body transforms itself as God transfigures Jesus his son. How wonderful we have this relic. Thank you Jesus...for your abiding love and gift of eternal salvation.
Really opened my perception on the situation, hopefully this comment makes its way to the speaker, beautiful presentation
Thank you
Thank you Molly for sharing.
Only willful ignorance can make someone not believe. If you want the truth it is here.
Don't put your non-belief on me this is what the Bible teaches rather y'all like it or not deal with it pick up the book and reed it !! I did you are showing your laziness 📜👈
Every person in the world should be made to watch this so they may see!
It's NO mystery never was it's Jesus. X
We had a picture of our Lord’s face, (the image from the shroud) as we grew up, and being a child, I never really doubted it was really Jesus. What I learn nowadays is making me look anew, and I am awed by the truth. Poor, beautiful Jesus. How he suffered for us.
Great analysis.
When a museum quality replica of the Shroud is set up back lit in the Sun, and you walk to the left or right of it, the image vanishes. that is a holographic observation Photos and paintings do not do that. The reason the image vanishes is because to see a holographic image you must view it in the direction the light was traveling when image was created, in the case of the Shroud that is straight out of body so one must look at it straight on to see it clearly. It is not possible to make a holographic image with the human hand. holograms are created by bouncing adiffracted laser light off the object and creating a interference pattern. image process on shroud is a holographic process in which an interference pattern was created by a light energy that radiated from within the body then made contact with the linen while body was levitated between the 2 halves of the cloth. To make a hologram the object being replicated cannot touch the film plate, in this case the film plate is the linen
Thanks for that explanation. I never understood the significance of it being a holographic image before but now it makes sense to me why that's so important.
@@TF80s the holographic property if the Shroud is just one of dozens of mysterious properties contained within that piece of linen.
There are so many things a forger would have to be aware of that knowledge of in the 14th and 15th centuries in the Shroud. They would have had to been a 20th or 21st century level, world-class expert in photography, biology, botany, hematology, minerals, textiles, chemistry, anatomy, radiology, plus had an extensive knowledge of Roman weaponry, ancient and first century Jewish burial customs, and much more.
First, they would have to have produced a linen cloth in the exact proportions as was customary at the time of the resurrection, with a very specific 3 over 1 herringbone weave that had been out of use for more than 1,000 years.
They would have to be able to do all of this on their own, in secret, telling no one, and creating this entire Shroud and then never using the technique ever again.
They would have had to have had intimate knowledge of and access to the Sudarium of Oviedo, being able to match not only the blood patterns exactly, but the extremely rare AB-blood type, 500 years before ANYONE knew there were different blood types (discovered in 1901). Only 6% of all humans have type AB- blood.
They would have had to have known about a tortured body's production of bilirubin, even though it is invisible to the naked eye, yet the blood stains on the Shroud are saturated in bilirubin.
Anyone who denies that the Shroud of Turin is authentically the burial cloth of Jesus is lying to themselves.
I can certainly understand how absolutely terrifying such a prospect must be for those whose lives have been wasted in denial of God, and Jesus. I wouldn't want to have something I have refused to believe all my life turn out to be true.
I imagine that admitting the truth would cause them to lose friends, family members, prestige, standing in the secular world . . .
@@jeffscully50613 thanks for that response..it confirms everything l believed in a way that l would never be able to articulate. 👍👍
@@TF80s the Shroud also has forensically accurate depth information. Confirmed by a scientific instrument a VP .8 analyzer. Only two image processes in the world contain forensically accurate depth information, holograms and mri's magnetic resonance image. It is not possible to create this type of information on linen with the human hand. The front and back image on the Shroud is a complex variation of shades of light and dark that create the optical illusion of depth forensically accurate to a man approximately 5 ft 11 175 lbs.
There is no way this is man-made. That is a certainty.
@@jeffscully50613 yeah it is stated by some that this is some type of man-made image,. As you have pointed out so clearly these kind of explanations veer off the main highway of 21st century forensic science, logic and clear thinking and goes down a dark side road that literally leads straight into crazy Town and off the edge of a cliff.
We had a priest that did a lot of studies on the shroud rinaldi from corpus christi port Chester ny wrote a book back in the 80'...
I believe in OUR HEAVENLY FATHER and his SON And the HOLY GHOST get yourself straight with OUR HEAVENLY FATHER because HIS SON in coming soon
As the ancient believers often said, "Maranatha". Come Lord Yahushua.
THANK YOU !
Glory be to the Son of God Jesus Christ ! Amen.
AMEN
Excellent presentation. Most presentation I’ve seen are not as distinct, quick and to the point.
I believe Jesus NEVER even cried out in pain. Not because he didn't feel it but because he was not resisting it. He WANTED to feel EVERY ounce on our behalf! That could also be why he was no mercilessly beaten. They were trying to get a reaction out of him.
Great job
Amen And Prayers 🙏🏻☦️🕊🔥❤️🌹
This really straightens my faith when he said that if you fold the napkin and put it to the side,it tells us he is coming back and he is not done yet...I needed to hear that in my heart to rejoice because so much distractions and lies about everything that we hold dear is being threaten by this new president.. PLEASE .COME LORD OF HOST PLEASE COME QUICKLY amen
I feel the truth of the shroud could only be made 100% since this century. I feel as a witness to this time in the last days before the Rapture and the end of the age.
You know the "Rapture" is an 19th century, Protestant, man-made invention, right?
Wonderful!
The side wound is 4cm in width. Same width of a 1st Century Roman Lancea. I suppose that is some random stroke of incredible luck right? I don't think so.
The shroud of turin is false,here is why?
The man pictured in the shroud has a full beard.the night of HIS arrest during the indescribable torture inflicted on HIM,they plucked out HIS BEARD.ISAIAH 50:6,”I GAVE MY BACK TO THOSE WHO TORTURED ME,AND MY FACE TO THOSE WHO TORE OUT MY BEARD”
The man in the shroud also had shoulder length hair.the protocol for the length of a jewish man’s hair was from the base of the palm to the top of the palm,approx.4 to 5 inches.
The shroud has the image of a man from head to toe,when in reality the jews buried their dead in a burial shroud from the feet to the top of the chest and a separate cloth wrapped around the head.
JOHN 20:7,AND THE NAPKIN THAT WAS AROUND HIS HEAD WAS IN A SEPARATE PLACE”.
As YOU CAN SEE,IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE “shroud of turin”was the burial cloth of JESUS.
The Vulture you have to have faith in the word of GOD.
JESUS SAID,”ISAIAH 50:6,I GAVE MY BACK TO THE SMITERS AND MY CHEEKS TO THEM THAT PLUCKED OUT MY BEARD”even if they only plucked out some of his beard the image has a full beard.
The image also has shoulder length hair ,the hair length for jewish men at that time was from the base of the fingers to the base of the palm of the hand.
The image was carbon dated to approx,twelfth century A D.
an artist from that time period would be more than capable to make a simple image such as that.
Jewish men were buried in a sheet that went from the neck to the feet and a seperate washcloth to cover the face.JOHN 20:7,”AND THE NAPKIN THAT WAS ABOUT HIS HEAD WAS NOT LYING WITH THE LINEN CLOTHES BUT WAS IN A PLACE BY ITSELF.yalso the men at that time were between 5feet and5feet 4 inches tall .if the shroud is an accurate representation of HIS height,HE would have stuck out like a sore thumb.
In the garden when they came to arrest HIM ,judas had to betray him with a kiss because HE
Looked just like everyone else,and they wanted to be sure they got the right one!
Study the bible and ask GOD for discernment.
GoodShepard Film Productions trying to deal with catholics is like banging your head against the wall,because it feels so good when you stop.
@@savedbygrace8867 You need to educate yourself. Catholism is the true faith, anyone outside the Church are either heretics or in schism, as are all Protestants or any of the thousands of knock-offs. You Protestant's, Luciferians, Baptists etc, etc, do realize you follow the teachings of man right, and not of God? You have no clue on how to interpret scripture, none whatsoever, as is obvious from your original comment and from your FB name. "Saved by Grace", "Faith alone"- A Protestant lie.
@@thevulture5750 Faith alone does not save, you must be baptised in water and have a true faith and then only through God's Grace are we saved. And that my friend comes from our works in life. Works meaning doing as God intends us to do.
Listen to the "Characteristics of The Image Formation" at mark 49:12+
How can anyone fake such a thing? Literally how on Earth can you think that any human can "draw" without paint the negative photorealistic image of someone, back then when they didn't even know about perspective!
The best art looked like it was made by children, yet they made this, that even today we can't replicate.
...wtf
james pong Please don’t use foul language when speaking of Jesus. You speak well and defend Our Lord then you ruin it. I am so tired of this generation using that word constantly, it is a disgusting, crude word that is meant to be very insulting.
Patricia Smith guilty as charged
@@jamespong6588 Thank you, Jesus loves us and gave His life for us. He forgives us if only we ask. He saves us if we believe in Him and try to live better lives.
There was no need to add what was added at the end of your comment.
You should take an art history course. I think you'd be surprised at what art looked like even in the time of Christ and well before.
Jesus is King. Amen
My own view is quite straightforward:- if the shroud of Turin is real and authentic then Jesus was the one true Messiah, the son of God, and everything in the Bible is true.
Well I’d be careful with that. Even if the shroud wasn’t the actual cloth that was used for Jesus (I believe it Is but just for the sake of argument) that doesn’t disprove or prove anything. View it as a reminder that Jesus underwent a horrible ordeal as a sacrifice to humanity, not as proof that the Bible is real. We trust that what the Bible says is true, no matter the scrutiny it’s put under. Physical evidence like the shroud are nice and helps reaffirm our faith, but faith is about trust and needing materialistic proof isn’t relying too much on trusting the Bible. So use it as a good reminder, not the basis for your faith :)
@@thegreatballplayer1
Hi Greg, I should clarify. I have no faith or belief, I am in fact a complete atheist, but if the shroud is proven to be real and authentic, then I would have no choice but to become a Christian and change my view to a believer.
@@captpicard6894 lol I see, why would an authentic shroud of Turin change your view on that?
@@captpicard6894 There is other evidence backing the Bible as well - look into Sodom & Gomorrah for example, there is a well made presentation about that from Ross Patterson - that one is fascinating!
.. or into the findings of Noah's Ark by Ron Wyatt.
.. and please, don't make the mistake of taking fraudulent churches as an example of people really believing the Bible and living according to God's will, above all don't take the Roman Catholic Church as legitimately/truly christian.
Can you think of any other explanation? Artwork that would require techniques that didnt exist at that time? Artwork that can't be recreated? Blood, fibers, microsopic evidence of where the soil and thorns originated from..a fake? It's too much overwhelming evidence to deny, well atleast for me!
Friendly correction:
Yves Delage
In French, Yves is pronounced like 'Eve' - the S is silent.
Shroud needs to be credited as the first Photograph. The word “” literally means “drawing with light” Photo = Light Graph = Image Light image. That alone is an amazing thing not to mention for the image to be made the body needed to be the source of light. Also all light is radiation all energy is.
The same thing happened in the transfiguration at the mount of olives where Christ was transformed , Our lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the real deal.
Pl read the Dolorous Passion of Christ by Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich a mystic and she explains what she saw in her visions and how the image on the shroud was created. It is amazing. Pl do check it out as the book is available in PDF.
It would be awesome to have the blood on the shroud tested against the blood that Ron Wyatt found on the mercy seat.
That would be very interesting indeed.
Yes, I would rally love that to happen. I get goosebumps just thinking of the result.
Run away from Ron Wyatt.
Jesus you died for me.. I will die for you..
For the believer no evidence is needed, but for the non-believer, no evidence will ever be enough. - some guy
Hi
From Jesus’s point of view, after providing this irrefutable proof, He is justified in saying to them at the Last Judgment ‘ You have no excuse’. Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.
Topic : The properties of the Shroud of Turin
To all those geniuses, that claim that it is a painting produced by a medieval painter circa 1500 AC, please find another painting (work of art from any period by ANY painter ) that when photographed would produced and exhibits the properties produced (a 3 dimensional positive of a negative) in the Shroud of Turin. The date is irrelevant (whether its a modern or ancient work of art) because what I am focusing here on this post is on the PROPERTIES which the Shroud exhibits when studied by competent scientists in a control environment .
My main claim is that these properties are ONLY found in the Shroud of Turin and NO were else on planet earth therefore it is NOT a work of art made by a man but it is a miracle performed by Jehovah God himself. The day that anyone could duplicate the results/properties of the Shroud of Turin in a man made painting then I will believe it is a painting, till then I will acknowledge it as the Shroud linen that covered the dead body of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ preserved by a miracle performed by ALL MIGHTY Jehovah God (The Father) himself.
Concerning the dating in which it was made , my opinion (which I could be wrong on it) is that it is the burial Shroud linen of our Lord Jesus Christ. My main claim on this post , which is a FACT, is that it was made by Jehovah God and NOT by man. Why I state it as a FACT ?, because the PROPERTIES it exhibits ,which NO man has been able to replicate. This Shroud was NOT made by human hands but by Jehovah God himself.
To all you atheists and unbelievers I say this; bring me an example of another painting, from any period in history , that has the SAME properties (when studied in a control environment) that the Shroud of Turin has/exhibits and I will be convinced it is a forgery/fake produced by a man. Are you up to the challenge at hand?, if you are then LETS THE GAMES BEGIN.
JESUS DOMINUM NOSTRUM,MY LORD JESUS CHRISTUS.
Believers believe....Praise you Jesus
The blood is there BEFORE the image !
Thank
We read in John 19: 38-40 that Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea took Christ's body and prepared it for burial using 75 lbs of aromatic spices and ointments. From what I understand, there is no residue of such spices on this cloth. Shouldn't there be?
John Barron good point. We’re the “myrrh and aloes” places on the body or just in the tomb to overcome the smell? We know the women were bringing more on the first day of the week and surely they weren’t going to open the tomb to put more on the body. They were just going to leave them at the entrance to hide the rotten smell.
Good point and question
I'm not sure if it was not really mentioned in the video but I read a book about the Shroud and it was mentioned there that during the STURP project they also found in the shroud several traces of spices indigenous in the Mideterranean.
Yes... STURP found traces of these spices on the shroud
I also heard that it was dry cleaned.
Absolute believer in the Shroud's authenticity but.... excited by learning something new, I pounced on the 8x2 cubit story, having only heard of this measurement from scripture, to find that it wasn't exclusively Jewish but was also used by the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians. The measurement is from the middle finger tip to the elbow and the name cubit is itself derived from the Latin for elbow. How would a medieval forger know that though? Apparently the measurement was used right up until the modern era, and is still in use in some parts of the world even now. A shame. Good lecture though, praise God.
I also believe the shroud is the real deal , the very image of Jesus Christ and proof of the resurrection, God's calling card.
In 1985 I was 13 at the shrine of the blessed virgin at Mount Mellary Ireland, the statue of our lady became brighter than white and shone, it moved out from the rocks and the image of Jesus Christ began to appear in its place, he was in a bright white robe, a black sash around hs waist, his hair was dark shoulder length, his heart was outside his chest,he appeared white, his hands were by his sides palms facing forward with the wounds of crucifixion visable, I couldn't tell his height, tears rolled from my eyes, not because I was weeping, it just was like my body was doing its own thing, I was taken to a little hut that had windows cut out, no glass, I blinked as in a situation like ths you will try to assure yourself what your seeing as real, when I called him in my mind, I said his name Jesus Christ, before I could say his name he responded to my thought and slowly turned his head until he was staring right at me, I looked as long as I could and hung my head, his look made me feel something that to this day struggle with, I mustered my strength and looked back up, he was still looking at me, I looked at him as long as I could which was only about 5 to 10 seconds and I had to hang my head again, I belive I felt the weight of sin beneath his gaze, I am a lowly and vile sinner, somtimes I belive that he let me see him to show me his unfathomable mercy and love as he knew then all the terrible sins I would commit but still his love was greater than anything I could ever do, other times I remember the strong thout that struck me that evening in my aunts house, that maybe it's for somone else, someone who needs to hear my testomony of the realty of what happened that day, what I can tell you with total faith, is that Jesus Christ is rean, you need to know about his firece sidde that some girls and I saw, I can tell you that I think of that moment many times throughout the day, my one regret is that I didn't throw myself facedown on the ground I front of him, look up Mount Mellary apparitions on UA-cam, there's video from the week during the visions and eye witness testimony, hope this helps you in your journey too the Father through Jesus Christ, Ave Maria
I belive the shroud is the truth and is the image of Jesus who I saw in 1985 I mout Mellary
i heard there is a spark of light the moment a baby is created
i am CERTAIN Jesus was the son of God and the cloth is REAL and genuine
AMEN
Is there any talk in this video of the recent 2020 pollen that was found to be 2000 years old - can you point me to?
It’s real.