The Shroud and the jew: Barrie Schwortz at TEDx ViadellaConciliazione
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2013
- Barrie Schwortz, an Orthodox Jew, spends much of his time educating Christians that the Turin Shroud may well be an artifact of Jesus. An expert on imaging, he was the official documenting photographer for the Shroud of Turin Research Project (STURP), the 1978 team that conducted the first in-depth scientific examination of the Shroud. In 2009, he founded the Shroud of Turin Education and Research Association, Inc. (STERA, Inc.). Schwortz began as a skeptic of the shroud, but by scientific evidence became absolutely convinced of its authenticity. To be open-minded and brave enough to immerse oneself in the evidence of beliefs that go against your own, and allow yourself to be convinced of their validity, requires a courage and honesty that not many can claim. This is what Barrie Schwortz has been doing for the past 30 years.
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Blood of a severely tortured person such as Jesus stays red forever. That is just so powerful. God is just almighty and powerful.
Why do you believe in that for which there is no evidence? Because someone told you to?
@@honeysucklecat why do you care so much? lol why are you even here? man yall confusing
@@honeysucklecat my sophmore HS English teacher asked the class a similar question, and I alone raised my hand that I still believed in God. But how was that, I was raised a secular humanist?
@@whimpypatrol5503 your body, mind, and soul were made by Him. And unlike the world He looks into our hearts and Knows what is there....
The problem I have with the shroud is that the beard was there and it says in Isaiah His beard was plucked out
I still have an article out of Readers Digest back in 1970 that my mother-in-law gave me on the Shroud of Turin. I knew immediately that the Shroud was authentic. God is totally amazing to me, how He chose Barrie to be on that team. He used a Jewish boy that did not believe to become a top expert on the Shroud, who has gone on to make it his life's work. How amazing is that!
Jewish boy???
Well, Janice, I knew immediately how his video was going to go, and I'm no prophet. Believers who pretend to be non-believers and pretend to be 'science people' before being 'turned.' Totally obvious, unless you're wearing blinkers.
@@colinschaeffer3940 she didn’t mean boy in the sense that he’s a kid .:)
When I first started looking into the shroud I was still an atheist .
@@colinschaeffer3940 don't be so sensitive!
@@craighofer8895 I'm very sensitive about antisemitism, veiled or not.
Although Mr. Barrie Shwortz isn’t the traditional speaker, I have to admit, there’s a huge lesson his message sent and am grateful for his entire vocation into this experience. Blessings to all.
This guy is going around completely understating the strength of the evidence. William Guy phd, md does a much better job.
For example, an Italian team spent five years using the world’s most powerful eximer laser, and could not reproduce the image. They estimate it would take a pulse lasting one forty billionth of a second of uv radiation on the order of *several billion watts of power* Clearly, obviously supernatural. Cannot be done by modern man. Probably the single most amazing part of the shroud. It broke the carbon bonds of the top layer of the fibrals, turning them into double-bonds.
Journal Article: “Coloring linens with excimer lasers to simulate the body image of the Turin Shroud”
Giuseppe Baldacchini, Paolo Di Lazzaro, Daniele Murra, and Giulio Fanti
I was privileged to have seen the shroud with my own 2 eyes in 2002. My main impression at the time was how BIG it was. I was not expecting that. The other was how faint the markings were. The images we see of it in books and on the internet apparently enhance the contrast. I recall not being then convinced about its authenticity, but have over the years since come to the opinion that it is indeed the burial cloth of Jesus. As Barrie Schwortz said on this video, quoting Sherlock Holmes, "When every other possibility has been rejected, whatever remains - however improbable - must be the truth."
The image on the Shroud is very faint, as you saw in person. Almost all of the images that you see in books or online are photographic negatives of the image. The image on the Shroud is itself a "negative", which is why in 1898 when it was photographed for the first time, the photographer was astounded when he saw the very clear image of Christ on his negatives in his dark room.
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I've got a testimony to tell,just before I started watching this video,I was watching several videos about atheism,science and the like, somehow I noticed this Ted talk in the thumbnails,usually I skip such topics but something inside of me prompted me to click on it, I come from a mixed Jewish/catholic background,raised Catholic with a love for Jewish culture I've always had an identity crisis,who/what am I? My belief in a higher power is weak to say the least but after listening to this talk, I'm sure it was God pushing my index finger towards that thumbnail. Thanks for taking the time to read my rambling.
Defensor God has revealed this to you, just like Peter the apostle
Not a rambling, it is a testimony of faith. He is real!
God bless you and keep you safe in the hollow of His hand.
Amen
Thank GOD! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
"The light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it..." Thanks for uploading Mr Shwortz's marvelous experience with the truth.
Thanks.
@Jimmy Carolina The simple truth will appear incredible yet not unbelievable. Thanks.
He had an experience. These emotions all are derived in our mind and we interpret them as we choose. His evidence is his own interpretation but other studies are sceptical about its age.
However, if it inspires, giving hope and meanings for living then embrace it but consider that it could be just a self-satisfying emotion that makes some feel good and secure. Mr Swartz feels good giving talks. He feels special and promotes his image with the theme that he is, like Jesus, the bearer of good news.
But hey, he fulfils a need in himself and in his listeners. That is part of the human experience that many want and need in their lives even if the validity of such relics is only how we poorly-developed humans choose to interpret the data.
@@jamesperkins4068 Thanks. I am glad that we are all entitle to our own opinions and that there will always be room for skepticism. The truth always is. Believe it or not.
Indeed!
Light wins.
The first time I heard Barry give his testimony and evidence of the Shroud it went deep into my soul.I knew about the Shroud but not the testing and personal testimony.I am now deep into it all and my faith has been fortified immensely.
Read the Sophia of Jesus Christ, In which Yeshua speaks of Both Matter and the Universe.
1 of the scientists made a computer generated 3D using the shroud, you should check it out.
@@jerrybruner4343 Thank you,Jerry.I have now seen it and other videos ect.Totally amazing.
Larry Williams, He has given us so much evidence. He is truly wanting all who are His to come home. Shalom Aleichem
Is it really "faith" if you needed outside evidence to fortify it? Ever think about that, Larry?
Wow... That statement hit hard. "SCIENCE IS MAN'S ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND GODS CREATION" 💯👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Been saying that for over 30 years. Did an atom not exist until rediscovered it? It's refreshing to hear him say this.
yeah, it goes back at least to the 13 c. to Thomas Aquinas. or even earlier. it is not coincidence that modern man does not look at science in this way.
Actually it's man's attempt to explain God out of evolution....
Science is human's method of dispelling superstitious nonsense, like gods and fraudulent artifacts.
I’ve been saying this for years… that’s all it has been and ever will be.
Thank you Barry. I was the custodian at St Alphonsus parish in Seattle in the early 2000’s when you made your presentation to our congregation. I have never forgotten your conviction as you told your story. My faith has never wavered, but your scientific evidence added to my belief that faith and reason are not only compatible, but are necessarily unified in the understanding of life. Thank you for your part in this wonderful examination of the Shroud.
Did Barry get paid for his testimony?
@@robertunderwood1011 testimony isn't evidence.
@ Robert Underwood...look up the video : Evidence for the Shroud of Christ! Resurrection 2021
The shroud is the receipt for the purchased possession. Thank you Jesus for saving me and my family. Maranatha!
Wow that will preach really good Amen. That was good
amen
No, the Holy Spirit bringing the resurrected life of Christ inside of me is the receipt for the purchased possession. Thank you Jesus for saving me and my family. Maranatha! (Walkin by faith not sight).
@@whimpypatrol5503 yes, even so come Lord Jesus....
Amazing story and a moving speech. Thank you, Barrie!
Beautiful Video to watch this Sabbath morning. Heart wrenching to know how much Yeshua suffered for us and how many deny his gift!
@FujianXiamen Guo
What's pathetic about Baptist teaching?
@@eddieboggs8306 Religious divisions are man made. There is one God, though different languages give Him different names. In the end days there will be only 2 churches, the true church of Christ and followers of the false christ. The true church of Christ will be recognized because it will love God, love their fellow human beings and they will keep the commandments of God. This is the whole duty of man.
Thousands upon thousands of people were tortured and crucified. Nothing special about Jesus.
@@Robert.Deeeee I disagree. To willingly lay down your life to save others IS special. It's easy for you to say.otherwise but would you have the courage or the love?
Dear "@@Robert.Deeeee" : If your mother in law is crucified, maybe you would see nothing special, but...
Crucified JESUS was The innocent Lamb of GOD, KING OF THE JEWS, and NO other LOVES YOU more like Him, inviting you to be seated next to Him;
"To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." (Revelations 3:21)
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wgt
A Jewish person once told me people who believe in Jesus hate Jews, I responded, on the contrary I love Jews, my lord is a Jew! Believe or not believe, the decision about Jesus is eternal!
SHEEP MEANS ISRAELITE
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
John 10:26 (talking to pharisee jews)
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Josephus’ Wars 2:8:2, states:
“For there are three philosophical sects among the Judeans. The followers of the first of whom are the Pharisees*; of the second the Sadducees; and the third sect, who pretends to a severer discipline, are called Essenes. These last are Judah by birth, and seem to have a greater affection for one another than the other sects have.”
@@exit5620 can you people speak without using Bible quotes as your main form of communication?
@@Sednas No
@@exit5620 :(
Jesus Himself said that salvation was from the Jews...
I want to say it's from Matthew's Gospel, but I'm not sure...
What a humbly beautiful human being in the truest sense of the word. Thank you for carrying the shroud to the world through your gorgeous witness. Thank you. "Telling the truth" never sounded more courageous.
I get all the ted talks recommended to me...
I had to search for this one...
Same!
Ok surprised they have it up at all
You only get recommended new videos. This one is 8 years old.
The honesty and humility oozes through this man's words. The shroud is beyond the understanding of science
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The only thing "oozing" is he makes a living preaching this message to gullible people.
@@ricksmith3442 Ha - It's you who would preach to gullible people, since you arbitrarily claim to know and have made deeper research into the shroud, and proven it's a hoax!
The Shroud of Turin also proves He was resurrected -- the image itself was produced by an "unknown light" and the image proves the body was levitating erect when it was made on the Shroud of Turin and the Shroud of Turin was no longer touching the body, but a distance away, to produce the 3-d image. The blood on the Shroud of Turin matches the blood of Eucharistic Miracles when the "Consecrated Host becomes the Body and Blood and 'Living Heart' of Jesus Christ."
The Shroud is beyond the understanding of science. That's a good way of putting it!
@@sageunknown6307 then why test it?
What a humble man!
The Shroud is a stunning relic for our times
He’s amazing and quickly replied to my email on Jewish burial traditions very quickly .
Very nice guy
On the contrary! He kept on talking about himself, his family and his Judaism all the time, mentioning the Shroud just occasionally. I would rather watch a video about the Shroud, but not on his feelings.
@@user-cv7nd6sw3t The man IS an expert on the shroud of Turin, but this presentation is rather a testimony to the authenticity and truth of the Christian faith. So like he said, he just presents the facts and it’s up to the person to accept it or not. It’s between you and God. If you want to know more, you can go to one of his lectures and listen to what he has to say about the shroud of Jesus.
You cannot force people into accepting a religion, that is the job of the Spirit of God who dwells in each one of us and it’s up to us to listen to his/her voice speaking to us.
@@user-cv7nd6sw3t I've just listened to Fr Andrew Dalton talking to Matt Fradd on utube about the Shroud & I have to say its fascinating "Evidence for the Shroud of Tourin w/ Fr Andrew Dalton"
its carbon dated to the 13th century... it was sent to labs and they independently dated it each within 50 years to the 13th century....the fiber wasn't about during the time of Jesus...
9 years ago? and look at what the MSM is covering, ignoring, hiding, twisting now. may this work live forever as I look at my Savior's blood on a cloth that imprinted his victory over Death forever. amen and love you Lord
God bless you Barry for all your wonderful work telling the truth about the shroud.
telling the truth....it has been carbon dated by multiple independent sources to the 13 th century....each getting to within 50 years of each other....the fiber it was made of came a 1000 years later.....its not the shroud worn by jesus
unless jesus made a 2nd visit in the 13th century
It’s so sad that Joe Rogan refuses to get this man on his podcast or anyone as knowledgeable to talk about the Shroud! Please everybody pray that this one day happens. His viewers need to hear the truth.
Amen
Thanks Barrie! You brought me back to faith in Jesus!
You do not need much to surrender your mind, do you?
@@cavejug3086 So, genius, how do you account for this?
@@TheCannonofMohammed ...For your info, I'm a stable genius as well. Nothing to account for here, there were snake oil salesmen since the dawn of time among us. One of the better one in this case.
@@cavejug3086 You're a caveman not a genius, and you just proved it with your "answer". Let's see you PROVE just one of your statements. You can't prove one. And you know it. That's why you didn't even try.
@@jerrybains5660, Prove what to whom? You must feel superior to throw an assault on line, just like a regular troll.Have you ever heard of irony, sarcasm and such?
Thank you my dear Jesus for spending me this message about the truth of who you are ...
I am so blessed to learn of this research from Barrie himself , of the true investigation from these top scientists attesting to the shroud's veracity. I was inside the Garden Tomb in 1977. There l believe is evident it being empty and near to Jeremiah's grotto where Ron Wyatt discovered the erk of the covenant with Jesus blood trickled upon the mercy seat from the crack caused by the earth quake at Golgotha above where Jesus the Lamb of God suffered and bled and died for our sins...angels were present and had Ron take scraping of the blood to be analysed AB + 24 chromasomes from the mother and one from the Heavenly Father God the blood mixed in saline solution 24 hrs. As instructed by angels was alive ...this is the blood of your Messiah!!!
Congratulations Barrie! I appreciate every word of this honest and profond speach on the Shroud of Turin.
I've followed Barrie for years. He is an incredible man.
A Beautiful Testimony, thank you for this awesome presentation.
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AMEN & AMEN!
The shroud dates to the 14th century, which also when it first appeared.
@@davidcross4815 no. The carbon dating was taken from a piece of the shroud that was restored. Scientists have proven there is NO WAY we can duplicate this image. Even with today's technology. It was made by extremely high amounts of radiation, it was made by the words of GOD THE FATHER telling his SON to rise again just as JESUS told Lazarus to come forth. You should really study the subject before you state false facts. Plus the blood on the shroud is alive! ALIVE! How can you explain that? Watch some documentaries about the things Ron Wyatt found before his death. I hope you come to the truth. Which is JESUS CHRIST. HE is the way, the truth, and the life. No one goes to the FATHER except through HIM. I pray the HOLY SPIRIT guides you to the correct information to open your eyes to JESUS. To those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, let them know the truth!
@@davidcross4815 listen to Fr Andrew Dalton talking to Matt Fradd on Pints with Aquinas he explains everything so well it's riveting
"What makes you think I even care what you believe? That's between you and God. Take it up with Him."
"I just put the facts out there and let people decide for themselves."
Barrie Schwortz
You do, or you would not have made this film!
pupupoloy
polopoly: "I just put the facts out there and let people decide for themselves." The "facts" can be manipulated. Have you ever watched "Chariots of the Gods," "In Search of the Ark," or "Alien Dissection?" All have the flavor of X-Files silliness; "The Truth Is Out There." Not doubt it is, but it ain't on the X-Files.
Do you get paid for it?
Barrie Schwortz
We can see from the responses here that in spite of the earlier studies that showed the shroud to be a fake, many people are desperate to believe that it confirms the divinity of Jesus Christ and are determined to seek any trivial excuse to do so. You are either laughing at these people or making a buck off of them or both. Would you be willing to publically support retesting since the testing methods have become so much more sensitive?
It's very difficult to stand in front of an audience and deliver a presentation. You did an outstanding job describing your personal experiences and giving us an insight to the work that you have accomplished over many years in such a short period of allotted time. Congratulations to you, Mr. Schwortz, and thank you for work in promoting the Shroud of Turin, a revelation to modern man through the art and science of photography.
Now THIS is a decent, sensibly considered comment :)))
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He could have said so much more in that time frame. Way to much off topic stuff.
@@joeb2588 Je vous en prie, la prochaine fois ne vous privez pas et allez faire votre témoigne sur scène devant une multitude et dites-nous.
@@franceguillemettericard8386 what?
What a fabulous testimony! Triple cheers brother, you did well.
Thank u Dr Barry for yr objective presentation & for clarifying my life long Catholic Concern!
The Lord guided you, & through you, He will guide us! Thank you for succumbing to His Direction.
Thankyou mr Schwortz for this beloved lecture I got filled with joy Faith is 24 hours of doubt and one minute of hope but the light is always there
What a funny definition of faith! 24 hrs of doubt sounds more like - well doubt, to me!
I’ve talked with Barry a few times. He’s truly one great person.
I want MORE of this version of TED talks, please!
Look up the Christian's Doctrine of Discovery on Ted Talks with Mark Charles. 👍
TEDx Talks, thank you for sharing this remarkable presentation...
This presentation is from 2013, based on an examination in 1978. It has been thoroughly debunked several times since, and Ted should probably remove it from the library. The latest study was in 2018 by a UK university and thoroughly disproves the whole thing.
@@kenjoe links to that study please?
@@boem3021 Surely you can use Google? Try Googling: "UK 2018 Shroud of Turin" several connections and opinions.
@lin linlin I agree - it's not the basis. There simply IS no basis except superstition and indoctrination. In the 2000+ years we have been listening to this baloney, there has been not ONE single piece of repeatable, verifiable, predictable evidence that there is any such thing as ANY supernatural being.
@lin linlin It is only true and real to you because you have no desire to look for or at any evidence. None. You are accepting what mom and pop told you when you were 3 years old, and still waiting for the tooth fairy.
This is honesty that only someone who has really looked inward can find. God bless you.
By building website internet on the subject (shroud) followed by millions of people is blessing in disguise. Your doubt or indifference at first lead you to a change in mind to grasp the truth. GBU.♥️
Mr Barry, watching your presentation, talking about experience, a journey of faith, without realizing my tears rolling down.🙏♥️
Excellent presentation, very moving and heartfelt.
Made me cry with joy! Thank you Barrie
This man is my hero. I thank him for his service to mankind. I never had a doubt it was real.
I had doubts from the History Channel because they didn't tell me everything. Once I learned teverything about this thing, I was Floored!! Jesus is REAL, and He loves us.
@@Drakemiser Have no Doubt, it is our Lord. Just Believe,
@@Drakemiser anything on secular television, which has any part of the Bible as its subject, will always, always be slanted away from the Bible.
They may get some true facts, but they will always sprinkle in doubts and even lies for those who want to believe lies. They will also leave out crucially important, related, information.
The Lord told me years ago to stop watching television. He told me it was being used to harden the hearts of Americans. I have since been shocked at the things that have been airing, per report, on television.
You might want to research about subliminal programming and other ways the television is being used so that the one who is being programmed is you.
@@andrzejsawicki3770 I glanced at your channel and happened to see that you were cutting and pasting the same post as seen above, on other channels. You didn’t answer any of my questions and we both know you never will.
You cited scientist from last century and ignored the plethora of scientists in many fields and the last two decades who show why the initial carbon 14 testing dates were inaccurate. In fact, the very inventor of carbon 14 testing said that those test results were not accurate due to contamination. You can see him saying that in the video called Jesus and the Shroud of Turin.
You can paste that little post all over the Internet. But you can’t answer my questions. And you can’t make the truth go away.
Why miss out? Why not embrace the truth instead of fighting it?
@@andrzejsawicki3770 P.S. I don’t know exactly how things work on UA-cam in regard to editing posts. I edited my post above because before I was finished typing and correcting it, I accidentally sent it.
But the above post is now the full one.
Hope that isn’t too confusing.
Wonderful what God will do to save one soul. He will do the same for you.... I was an atheist for many years... God revealed Himself to me... amazing grace... hope you find the joy of your salvation too. Know Jesus know the love of God
He’s such an engaging speaker, and he has done his homework.
He's so far from an "engaging speaker." All he did was talk about his "Jewishness."
@@leonardodalongisland i’m wondering if you even watched the full video. Yes he did talk about his Jewishness. That was appropriate to do since it helped to show that he did not have a bias toward Christianity.
He also gave all kinds of information about the shroud. For example, the fact there was billirubin found in the blood, which keeps it red because of extreme torture.
If you want to see what I personally think is hands-down, the best video on the shroud, I think the one by Brian Cray is the best. There you will see all kinds of scientific and historical data that show that the shroud is no way, and could not possibly be, a Medieval forgery.
Barry gives far more scientific and historic details in other videos. He only had a short time to talk at TEDx.
@@loricalass4068 You acknowledge the one and only bit of “evidence” he spoke about and that I mentioned: billirubin found in the blood! Did you even read what I wrote! And his Jewish-ness had NOTHING to do with taking photos. He wasn’t hired as a scientist or even as someone to make any statements. He was hire to click the shutter of his cameras. There is not only no such thing as “bias” is the world of photography. It’s mechanical operation; you press a button, a mirror flips up, light from the object in focus passes through, strikes the film. That’s it. No options, feelings, thoughts, or religion involved. You claim that “he also gave all kinds of information about the shroud, and again, only mentioned the one thing I mentioned. Where are “all” the other supporting bits of “evidence”???? It may not be a “medieval forgery,” but there is NO way it can be linked to a particular man (that many not even have existed). There is no “Jesus DNA.” That cloth (if it’s real) could have been wrapped around any of 10, 000 men. Come on-exhibit at least a modicum of logic.
@@leonardodalongisland P.S. in case you didn’t get the obvious from my post. The shroud is mir-ac-u-lous. Highly qualified. Scientists have said there is no way to reproduce it even with modern technology. And of course you yourself, dear, couldn’t reproduce it, or even guess how it could be reproduced.
When Christ was alive on earth, many saw him doing miracles, but not all believed. He left a humongous miracle for us in his resurrection. He gives you the chance to believe. Even now with miracles. But if you reject him, how very sad for you.
@@loricalass4068 t is you dear whom I'm sorry for-believing in such children-fairy tales.
Hallelujah! He Lives!
I truly with all my heart believe that the Shroud of Turin is definitely the cloth of Jesus
Amen he lives, we can see how the lord looked like and how much he suffered its terrible.
@@annwhitener6834 yes, i didnt believe that shroud was really true before, but now i do.
A humble, free-thinking, open person.
With his own religious agenda.
I am thrilled to see him via Ted x doing this lecture. It's so needed!😊
This is a very interesting story of The Shroud of Turin. It is one of my favorites.
He is all might God and I love Him with all my heart soul and mind. Thank you for suffering on that cross and bringing me salvation.
Jesus doesn't read UA-cam comments.🙄
@@utubepunk he’s on Tik-Tok!
Barrie, Wonderful to see you on TEDx my good friend. I've helped produce one here in Malibu, California recently. I always love to hear your perspective on the shroud, and better yet, your personal views and your story. Please keep in touch! Rich Tamayo, TVP Studios / TVPLIVE. (Now in Orange County)
What a nice Humble man.. thank you.
Did you miss the bit where he said god picked him ?
Yeah, Barrie Schwortz ,
a Wonderful Messenger !!!
I saw his presentation in Canada
about 8 years ago !!!
It was ASTOUNDING !!!!
Never too late for GOD and for LOVE, TRUE LOVE in Yeshua HaMaschiach! God Blessed YOU Barrie, stay on the Path. Peace!
I have the same blood type that was found on the Shroud of Turin! Only 0.5% of the world has this blood type. I have always felt very close to Jesus.
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Mr. Barry is obviously very intelligent and seemingly honest. I respect his position and his right to believe. What I don’t understand is how the shroud is still up for debate. One doesn’t have to be a scientist or subject matter expert to detect a fatal flaw. If a person were to take a bed sheet or material that is similar to the shroud, apply a thin layer of paint, then carefully wrap their face with the sheet, and then unwrap they would realize that the profile of their face would be greatly distorted. The shroud has a profile that resembles a picture or portrait. The shroud of Turin was not wrapped around a persons face.
I fully agree, but this comment sections seems to be full of "believers." It's hopeless, bro.
@@wabisabi6875 yeah…they latched on to this one.
God Bless You Barrie. Thanks You and GOD for your message.
God bless your humble heart Sir Barrie.
A beautiful presentation, thank you Barrie.
THE SHROUD IS A LIE. #1 The BIBLE gave proof that Jesus had his beard torn off his face: "I offered My back to those who struck Me, & My cheeks to those who tore out My beard ". Mat 26:67 #2 John 20:5-7 5 "Peter went straight into the tomb [where] he saw the strips of linen ...as well as the 'cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus' head'. #3 Jesus was stripped of his clothing, tied to a post & beaten until his flesh hung in shreds. Isa 52:14 "Just as there were many who were appalled at him because his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being & his form marred beyond human likeness" Jesus no longer looked like a 'man'. He was a mass off shredded blood & skin. The shroud would have been soaked in blood covering a distorted body not resembling a human. #4 This is the 2nd Commandment of God: "You shall not make any graven image, or 'any likeness' of any thing that is 'in heaven' above" Ex 20:3 Jesus is the only sinless being who walked the earth, therefore He obeyed all ten Commandments. Jesus would never, ever sin against His Father in Heaven, so Jesus would never, ever have allowed himself to be grafted into a piece of cloth to resemble a graven image.
what an amazing man. I love every time I hear him speak.
With more extensive research it has been reasonably determined that the Sudarium and the Shroud covered the same person. “We have come to a point where it seems absurd to suggest that ‘by happenstance’ all of the wounds, lesions and swelling coincides on both cloths,” said the center’s president, Jorge-Manuel Rodríguez. “Logic requires that we conclude that we are speaking of the same person.” 💝
Simple and to the point
To what point. He said nothing.
Amen, God has his spectacular Miraculous ways of doing things, This has really touched my heart
Fearless Minded Mine too Brother.
Fearless Minded? ...more like absent minded
Why did god take my 2 month old daughter?
Can you explain the "spectacular Miraculousness" in that?
Why did god take my 2 month old daughter?
Can you explain the "spectacular Miraculousness" in that?
@@kanescrimes4848 Maybe to bring you closer to Him. Your 2 year old is in heaven and your love wants to unite with your child again. We are only in this world a short time while eternity is forever (your child's life reflects this truth). --- The Shroud of Turin also proves He was resurrected -- the image itself was produced by an "unknown light" and the image proves the body was levitating erect when it was made on the Shroud of Turin and the Shroud of Turin was no longer touching the body, but a distance away, to produce the 3-d image. The blood on the Shroud of Turin matches the blood of Eucharistic Miracles when the "Consecrated Host becomes the Body and Blood and 'Living Heart' of Jesus Christ."
Always - Type AB.There have been many Eucharistic Miracles over the Centuries. In the 19th and 20 Century, the "Blood" is Real Blood and has been found to be Real Heart Tissue that has been put under Tremendous Stress. Ignore the facts if you must folks....Stubborn Denial (I will not study the facts) is not a ignitable excuse come the judgement....
*"If I am not an example of religious freedom, and scientific research. I don't know what is."* ❤️
There is nothing scientific about his " research "
@@davidcross4815 You obviously have no grasp of the scientific method. Don’t worry, they will teach it when you make it to junior high school.
The Shroud was the icing on the cake as to why I believe too.
Thankyou so much Barrie. Perhaps the single most important task ever to authenticate our Lord Jesus Yeshuwa...
When I think of Barrie, I think of Jesus' words concerning Nathaniel: Here is a man WITHOUT GUILE!!! Ane THAT is why God chose him to be on the Team! Well done, Elohim!
This brought tears to my eyes, thank you Jesus for really being here for us, i felt deep down inside when i first heard about the shroud that it was real.
Likewise. I get goosebumps even now remembering when I first saw a picture of the shroud. The soul just knows.
Just amazing. Words are. Not enough To describe thewidth and depth of what this story conveys.
Mazel Tov Brother Barrie Schwortz , God bless you 🌿
Thank you for your candor and your scholarship, Barry. One more step, and you'll be there!
God Bless you, Barrie!
Thank you for this talk ...
Jews can believe in Jesus too! ❤️
Of course, jews can believe in Yeshua while remaining jews. The NT is a jewish story through and through.
Yes😁❤
I had a friend who was Muslim, and we had great conversations about our faiths!🥰 She believed that Jesus was a very Holy Prophet and honoured Him at Christmas time also. She also believed in the Holiness of Our Lady. These are steps to be well respected, and I embrace anyone who is halfway there! God brings you all the way to Himself! Every year, I try to practice a Seder meal on Holy Thursday, to remember how Jesus and the disciples would have, how important this ceremony was to them, but also how the early Christians, many of whom were Jewish people, would have continued the Seder meal. That is how the Holy Catholic Mass evolved!🥰
@Russell Weber III No. I tell from my own experiences, like most people. Yes, Jesus is THE ONLY Pascal Lamb, but as Christians, it is very important to know the roots of our faith, especially the Last Supper, and what it meant to the Disciples and Jesus.
All I know is, that practicing the Seder alongside attending Mass on Holy Thursday is a powerful experience for me, and really helps me appreciate the mystery and sanctity of the Holy sacrifice of the Mass.
If you are not Catholic, this may not make sense, but the Seder is the precursor to The Mass, or "Sharing at the Table of the Lamb".
Read Matt 10:6
Do you believe that Jesus was the son of god, a prophet, or a heretic? I’m genuinely curious why not just convert to some sort of Christian faith since the Jewish faith doesn’t recognize Jesus as the son of god.
Loved it! Thank You!
#1 Jesus had his beard torn off his face: "I offered My back to those who struck Me, & My cheeks to those who tore out My beard ". Mat 26:67 #2 John 20:5-7 5 "Peter went straight into the tomb [where] he saw the strips of linen ...as well as the 'cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus' head'. #3 Jesus was stripped of his clothing, tied to a post & beaten until his flesh hung in shreds. Isa 52:14 "Just as there were many who were appalled at him because his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being & his form marred beyond human likeness" Jesus no longer looked like a 'man'. He was a mass off shredded blood & skin. The shroud would have been soaked in blood covering a distorted body not resembling a human. #4 This is the 2nd Commandment of God: "You shall not make any graven image, or 'any likeness' of any thing that is 'in heaven' above" Ex 20:3 Jesus is the only sinless being who walked the earth, therefore He obeyed all ten Commandments. Jesus would never, ever sin against His Father in Heaven, so Jesus would never, ever have allowed himself to be grafted into a piece of cloth to resemble a graven image. the shroud is a lie.
"Science is man's attempt to understand God's creation"....Mr. Barry Schwartz
Truely words of WISDOM!!
Moses also resisted God’s call, but in the end he lead the people of Israel out of Egypt, on dry land through the Red Sea. I’m very moved by Barrie’s courage.
What a wonderful lecture!
Fr. Rinaldi from Port Chester , N.Y. was Corpus Christi Parish was a Proponent of the Shroud of Turin for his entire life & was called to the Vatican to supervise this as a Historian of the Shroud
He was an amazing Priest & person
This adorable man has made a whole career out of this! Thank God his parents left Poland prior to WW2. It’s his skepticism that helps prove its authenticity.
Aprecciate for Barrie Schwortz from Romania 🇷🇴
Just a curious question. If Goliath carried what Barry called a Javelin then why would that be considered only hand-to-hand weapon? Seems like they are both carrying projectile weapons and that would both be violating the laws of hand-to-hand combat in those days?
Also why would Goliath carry a spear if he couldn't see very far?
And I really enjoyed the presentation thank you!!
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Well that was fantastic, thank you.
Meaning "fantasy."
I just saw the documentary on the shroud of Turin and all the scientific doubters who were present and worked on the shroud became believers not by faith but by evidence that their carbon dating was flawed and disproved by 2 religious people they called lunatics
Valdemar Daraujo I watched that to. Fascinating
Link please?
All the scientific studies I've read on it, say it's far too new to be authentic.
I watched it too. They interwove 2 different fibers from different timeframes
They have faith in the evidence, not 'faith in faith,' which id fideism and mere credulity. Thomas demonstrated this when he saw the risen Christ who enjoined (us) that historical testimony from reliable witnesses is a form of evidence and ought not be discounted. (Remember Occam and Sherlock from the talk.)
Wow... So beautiful words! So blessed opportunity to watch Barrie Schwortz. Thanks!
I wish he would've taken this opportunity to talk more about the science proving the authenticity of the Shroud and less about himself.
Good point, we are to witness and testify as a messenger but it is up to one's freewill to believe.
He had an experience. These emotions all are derived in our mind and we interpret them as we choose. His evidence is his own interpretation but other studies are sceptical about its age.
However, if it inspires, giving hope and meanings for living then embrace it but consider that it could be just a self-satisfying emotion that makes some feel good and secure. Mr Schworz feels good giving talks. He feels special and promotes his image with the theme that he is, like Jesus, the bearer of good news.
But hey, he fulfils a need in himself and in his listeners. That is part of the human experience that many want and need in their lives even if the validity of such relics is only how we poorly-developed humans choose to interpret the data.
Man this is fascinating! It would make a great movie.
Look up this video: Evidence for the Shroud of Christ! Resurrection 2021
The man was beaten in his face, scourged with roman whips, crowned with thorns as though mocking his messianic claims, pierced with a roman spear, his bones were not broken like other crucifixion wictims, then he was buried in a beautiful linen cloth which was unthinkable for a criminal, he was laid in a grave in Jerusalem surrounded by flowers from that specific place, etc. there are so many facts about the suffering of the man on the shroud, that it ALL combined only fits one account: that of the suffering of Jesus of Nazareth. The fact that jews took the actual bloodstained cloth out of the grave is in itself a proof that something is special, because jews would never do such a thing, touching a dead man. Still denying that all these proofs don't point to one particular man and one particular instant in history, can only be an act of the will: Some people will not accept facts because of a fear they have. They themselves know the nature of this fear.
And the Jews hated Him so much, they buried Him FACE DOWN. Might want to mention that.
L.M. McCormick Joseph of Arimathea buried Christ, not “the Jews”.
His disciple Joseph wrapped him in the shroud and placed him in the cave so the fact that it was a nice piece if linen points to nothing other than he was entombed with care by a friendly party
@@jeyDsixx18 Yet, still a common criminal would not have been given this care or tortured and crucified in the same specific way.
Nor is there anything else to compare it with because it wasn't important enough to keep and preserve anyone else's burial cloth from that time period.
@@balamclay7871 nor would it be proper to keep a death shroud, much less to venerate it.
there is no way that the Shroud is fake ! , no chance. God left gave us this amazing artefact for our era because we are the only ones who are able to study it so it was made for us because we need it most .
@ Rich Souks... Look up this video: Evidence for the Shroud of Christ! Resurrection 2021
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Imagine - "misleading media reports" - ALL the proof you need!!!! God bless you on your journeys! Thank you Barrie. Thank you Jesus!!!!
This man. Listen to what he has to say. He speaks honestly - so much so that he "shames" himself (he has nothing to be ashamed of)....yet he thinks he does... The truth is often uncomfortable, but not something you should be ashamed of speaking.
I am one of the skeptics Schwortz was talking about. Even if the blood on the shroud is authentic blood, there is no guarantee that it was christ's blood. A photographer in the 1970s published an in article in one of the photography mags that he had duplicated the method in which the shroud had been reproduced. He said he used the spices & dressings which were traditionally used in early AD, and draped the cloth over a supine stone effigy. After three days, he photographed the image which had transferred onto the fabric, and he published the images. They resembled the shroud's ghostly image.
I googled the shroud of Turin: Historical and scientific evidence points to it being a medieval creation [that is, well beyond the time of christ's burial]. It [the shroud] is first securely attested in 1390, when a local bishop wrote that the shroud was a forgery and that an unnamed artist had confessed; radiocarbon dating of a sample of the fabric is consistent with this date.
The lecturer may believe--and belief is not proof--that the shroud at one time covered christ, but I don't.
It is OK to be a sceptic. The Church itself has never declared that it IS the Shroud that Jesus was wrapped in. It does know that the Shroud Points to CHrist which is the most important thing. Prehaps that is why we have it. Authentic or Not. You need to Update your facts and see if they still match your old information. Don't close your mind yet!
Learn more about it.
Where are the photos of this duplicate?
Perhaps you would benefit by doing more research on the shroud.
@@joebrinson5040: I've done all the research on "the shroud" that I need to do. It is patently fraudulent, and there is no benefit to be gained from "researching" beyond that point. The shroud has the same validity as bleeding or weeping icons of mary, "fragments of the true cross," pieces of the ark, bones of the saints, or any other religious relics that were routinely sold during the benighted advent of christ's supposed emergence as the savior of mankind. Here's what Google has to say about the shroud:
"The first possible historical record dates from 1353 or 1357, and the first certain record (in Lirey, France) in 1390 when Bishop Pierre d'Arcis wrote a memorandum to Pope Clement VII (Avignon Obedience), stating that the shroud was a forgery and that the artist had confessed." This "shroud" was manufactured over 1300 years after X supposedly died. BUT: You can probably buy one of X's sandals on eBay if you act now, while supplies last. When you get the sandal, be sure to check the size to be sure it's authentic; he had small feet. Size 8. And make sure it wasn't made in China.
The information say he teaches it may be . He stood right there and said it is. God is Great
Thank you Barrie
Absolutely amazing and wonderful ✨ Thank You!
An eye opening and a wonderful speech
¡Gracias Jesús, Dios mío!
Jesús viene a chile ⭐
This guy is really smart I love his lectures.
Beautiful talk, thank you. Xoc
just something I've always found curious: why would those that wrapped the body and laid it in the tomb have left the nails and crown of thorns (which was placed on his head in a mockery) in place?
I don't see a crown of thorns or nails when I look at the shroud image. I see wounds. Maybe you're thinking of some other pictures which are just an artist's rendering.
Those who were rushing to finish before the Sabbath began at sundown.
Notice they were coming back to finish the job early Sunday morning when they found Him gone.
They didn't! The objects of execution were thrown down a cistern and found 3 centuries later. The image of Jesus on the Shroud shows his wounds not the actual crown of thorns or the nails!
He has a well of profound information. I only wish he had spoken more about the shroud, and a bit less about himself.
C'est le principe d'un témoignage.
Thank you sir.
Thank you so much. God bless you