FPV Helicopter!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- We fly quadcopters FPV like it's second nature. But how would a first-person perspective work when flying a more traditional helicopter?
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FPV a drift RC car and try follow with a Tiny whoop.. LOL
I have already done that ( fpv drift car). Be blessed
FPV RC-Drift solo, Tandem and Train we done allready. Have to chase it with my TinyHawk next time. ;-)
I did that with my 5", so much fun!
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yeh do it! i got to follow some drift cars with a cinewhoop xD was blowing the guys all over the place.
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WANNA SEE DRIFTING RC CARS !!
Come take a look! Got some cool stuff..
Greetz # FGMADNESS !
Properly tuned 700 clas heli would fly just fine even in FPV. A lot more stable in the wind.
my old Trex600 did FPV just fine back in the early 2000s. i used a monitor at the time though so i could transition quickly from from FPV to LOS and take off and land easily.
On flymentor autopilot 500size heli, great experience with a head-tracking fpv cam..here’s the awesome view from its cockpit /watch?v=-CZlLvsEIpo
just not worth the hassle tuning a heli.
kind of not the same.......your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to put the goggles on and then try fly that 700.
and a lot more unstable in the pocket
It may seem bad in y’alls experience, but the first RC camera platforms for aerial video were huge massive RC Heli’s. And they were stable! Its probably all about tune in the end.
Tune has a lot to do with it, but it's also experience. The quads do SO much for you, weve gotten spoiled with all the tech. Helis had a gyro, often mechanical, and...that was it. If you can fly a helicopter, you can fly a quad but it's not necessarily the other way around. That said, you put a modern chipset on a heli and it becomes muuuuch easier to handle.
Heli's are inherently more stable. They are just much, much harder to control, especially the smaller you get. When you consider an unassisted quad/hex/octocopter vs an unassisted heli, then heli's much better.
I have been flying my 450 FPV for a couple years and I have never had the issues you guys have. Tune much? C'mon guys, do it right.
I really wish you'd used a properly tuned and well flying cp heli for this. This clearly wasn't exactly ideal, even LoS...
Agreed, my beater 450 made from parts from 3 different helicopters flies much better.
I've been flying FPV for about 4 years . This is my t-rex 500x. It flies amazing . Thinking about doing a UA-cam video soonfacebook.com/scotty.mccoy.351/videos/3980098942042771/
You guys should have invited Kyle Stacy, he can fly a heli fpv like nobody...dude is insane!!!
Excited to see more 3D content on the channel- I wanna see Jeff FPV his larger setup and fly it 3D!
I love helis. I love how much is involved. The challenge. The tuning. How much you actually need to know. The intimidation factor. The noises they make.....
Quad pilot: Disarm via 2 switches & disconnect battery before touching. Heli pilot: just pick it up by the prop!
I mean when the heli props dont spin there is no danger. They need like 10seconds to spin up and these motors have like 0.01Nm of torque
Lol. sounds worse than it is. Helicopters have a throttle hold and the props don't go from 0 to 10k rpm in an second lol.
@@bearlaceration8971 it's all good man... I think he was just joking about the flight end procedures. I don't think anyone disagrees it takes a lot more skill to fly a heli.
I have fpv'd my old T-Rex 600 and it actually flew just fine and was really fun!
DaRoach5882 yeah I don’t understand what the big deal is. FPV has been around for ever. This isn’t new. Stick controls are identical. Whatever cool video regardless
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Lol ... For us old folks ,
F.P.V. is still pretty new , however OUR first remote , was a string connected to a cox fueled airplane.lol...
Back in the late 60's lol
( F.P.V. ,,, IS BASICALLY BRAND NEW ) to adults..lol
Richard Cerni 😑😑😑😑😑😑
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It’s been done successfully multiple times. A million times better than dribbles attempt in this vid. Move along.
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Thanks for these links. I've seen the first one before. Great achievement. Extra credit will go to the last video though. That guy did a bit more than just fly circuits. The others are simple circuits. Don't get me wrong - I'm a heli flyer. I congratulate you and those others who've done it. I'm not going to try it - I'm VLOS flyer. But when I hear something like, "it's all been done before, to me that implies most people have attempted it and the fad has passed. In fact, the fad never took off. That's why I made my initial comment when I did. Cheers, and fly well.
Richard Cerni we’re both saying the same thing. Haha 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
That is EXACTLY the reason why I've started flying heli and I've stopped pretty much at the beginning. Also the reason why I've started this FPV thing with a FUTABA T7C (!). Basically, to fly heli, you'll pretty much lose sight of it if it is too small. So, you need that big, to be able to see what is doing, and where the tail is oriented. BUT, again, the bigger, the more expensive, and that is what happen when you crash: most of the times, almost all parts are gone, and you should not only buy everything again, wich sometimes isn't that expensive, but you cannot fly for weeks, trying to have some hour to fix it. I've left, with my TRex still in his box, and other 2 mini less than an hour of flight. Then, drones, or quad, and FPV began. Life changer! Of course it's a different thing, but at the end of the day is hard enough to be a lot interesting and fun, and way less expensive in terms of time and money.
Team Echelon was doing this back when the kk2 board was still popular
but i appreciate you bringing it back to life and offering a different look at fpv for a change
I've seen fpv heli footage from before quads existed and it was fine, it was better than this.
Raz Taz exactly. Don’t know what their deal was. Poorly set up heli
Here is your problem....LOL, it's a fucking BLADE!
OMG, it's Drip's heli. Problem #2
@@jbw5485 Maybe just because it was a 450 size?
Nander0 true. Most of the really nice fpv stuff is with much larger helis.
I have great respect for helicopter pilots, I used to fly one back in the old days and those things are as challenging as hell to master.
Greg Toews ikr? I bought one awhile back and couldn’t even get the thing to hover never mind actually fly... I just assumed it was defective in some way and gave up...
@@travispratt6327 My first five or so drones were helis - back before quads existed - and they flew really easily. Wasn't 3D - heck, most of them were only 2 channel - but they flew quite nicely.
Vousie V Well that’s not how a real helicopter pilot flies a helicopter... I was referring to collective pitch 6ch helis that are more like how a pilot has to fly, and I’m sure op was too. I’m not sure exactly how how hard they are to fly because I never got mine to fly right, it was always like trying to stand and balance on top of an exercise ball. I did have multiple regular 3ch helis though and they’re easy and simple, basically they’re flying for you with gyro stabilization, a collective pitch 6ch 3D heli is more like a quad in acro mode, center the sticks and it won’t hover, it will just keep flying wherever it was flying, but in my experience the quad is much more predictable and stable. You control the speed of rotation of pitch yaw and roll, then on top of that have to do throttle and blade pitch. It’s by far the most challenging rc experience I’ve had, and I fly 100mph+ rc planes and do real estate videos with a dji phantom gimbal drone.
@@travispratt6327 Yes, I know how 6ch helis fly. My point is that just because it's an RC helicopter doesn't mean it's always difficult to fly. You get different types of helis. Also, the helis I had didn't have actual gyros - this was back in 2006 when gyros were too expensive to put in toys. They literally just had a physical balance bar on the main rotor. By the way, if you can fly 100mph RC planes, then DJI Phantom is really just nothing. Those things are so overly controlled by computer algorithims that I sometimes wonder whether it even really counts as you "flying" them - it's more like the algorithm is flying it and you just give it a general direction you want it to go in.
Vousie V My dji can be controlled like that but that’s not how I use it, I simultaneously use throttle, yaw and gimbal to frame shots while I’m moving is one of the more challenging things with the dji. It’s easy to fly but it’s hard to manipulate to get desired results was my point with that.
As for toy grade copters, ya I know they can be easy but nobodies talking about those toy helicopters, they’re talking about 6ch helicopters that simulate a real helicopter, there’s no 2 or 3ch manned helicopters that I’m aware of, he said he’s respectful of helicopter pilots, I wouldn’t consider someone pushing up on a 2ch toy heli a helicopter pilot.
FPV a rc boat!
Put crossfire and a pro32 1w vtx on it then take out on a lake or calm ocean
done that,, on sonic wake,,, and old k&b tunnel hull,,, water isn't to friendly to vtx ,, can keep it dry but gets hot and burns up,,, only used cheap vtx though ... put it old nitro savage 4x4 that was cool
English channel
water cool the VTX. not a big deal. just like water cooling an electric boat's esc.
I love how terrified drew is of the helicopter
Seriously, I’ve been flying FPV with my 35 pound, 2.5 meter turbine XLV since 2005. I started out on my Schluter Champion back in 1985 FPV... You guys are so behind the times😜
What I’ve done was I put a full fpv set up on a trex 700. When I say full. I mean head tracking, diversity, OSD W/BARO&COMPASS, HD... IT WORKS VERY NICELY. I went ahead and turned it into a gunship for paintball. Mounted a tippman automatic paintball gun on it and it worked perfectly! It was a gorgeous thing to fly and it kicked ass! It was very smooth. What I see in this video is that the gains were off balance and it was only trying to over compensate.
Flying RC Helicopters is not for everybody. It takes perseverance and patience. but when you get it it is very rewarding.
After reaching a high level of proficiency (piro-flip level). Flying anything else is super easy
FPV adds a different dynamic, it's fun
When i was a little kid, more then 20 y ago i dreamed of flying fpv. Tech wasn't there yet. When i found out fpv drones my life has changed😍
Right? I fly 100% better FPV than I ever did LOS. I wanted to be a pilot, and FPV gives me the ability to kinda do so.
Also modern radios are SO much nicer than AM band radios... ugh, someone makes a hot pocket and my old plane would be going into the trees.
Thats why heli pilots are the best pilots.
That was the most honest Blade 450 commercial ever!
Drew could chase it cause he had hd view from dji. Which makes it alot easier to see the heli.
Dave's tri copter needs some love
Even tho the heli fly like crap fpv ! It’s all about the chasing of the helicopter 🚁 that part was dope as hell 👌🏻
Something the multirotor guys might not be aware of is that you have to balance the center of gravity planes and helicopters for them to fly well.
That horrible porpoising this thing had, in heli/plane world that is a really clear sign of being tail-heavy. When they took the battery off of the front and put it on the bottom, they were making the helicopter incredibly unstable; it's a miracle of modern engineering the flight controller could control that thing at all.
"wanna chase me ?" " ok sure"
I think it´s time for 3PV. Put up a few FPV cameras and VTX.s around Rotor Riot HQ, set them to different channels, put a pair of goggles on someone and give him or her some 3rd person view missions!
Get Tareq Alsaadi as a guest. he is an insane heli pilot.
David’s bi-copter FPV!
You can get 6 angle Flybarless units with GPS units that changes any RC helicopter into a drone that’s locked in that can fly themselves and can be programmed to autonomously fly a course. I love RC helicopters and that was a very minor crash that looked like maybe, maybe $20 for new landing skids if you can’t mend your broken skids and the boom support. The boom support saved your tail boom saving you the effort of replacing the boom. Main gear is roughly $5, servo gear kits for sub micro servos are roughly $15 from Horizon Hobby. That was a good crash. If your feather spindle is still true and main shaft is still true you’re all good but a good rule of thumb is to not chance it and replace the feather spindle and main shaft after every crash to give you some piece of mind. I’ve had many minor crashes and the heli just didn’t fly good till I replaced the main shaft and feather spindle. The slightest bend in either will give you issues. The same is true for the tail feather spindle. Helps are great and I really wish people wouldn’t down talk RC helis scaring people away. RC helicopters are far more rewarding to fly as they are extremely hard to fly. Drones are nothing like RC helicopters so please don’t even try to compare them. I am very passionate about my hobby and just want to see more people try helis out because they are a huge challenge. The thing is that any one can pick up a drone and fly it with ease, a helicopter is a skill that requires a lot of training and learning. If you really want a challenge come to helis. If you want to just play around buy a drone but don’t you dare put helis down.
IS that Frostie the snow man DUDE WEARING EYE LINER? Hahahahaha
50K "LIKES"...LETS DO IT!!!! I Want to see the BIG BOY FLY!!!
FPV a model fighterjet from the cockpit with HUD display!
F.P.V. 👍
EVERYTHING NEEDS F.P.V.
EVERYTHING !!!
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SWEEEEET 😎💨
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That would probably be the coolest remote controlled thing ever ..
There's got to be a way to send a signal underwater. ..
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It would be cool to FPV a Scale realistic helicopter with an interior!
I fpv a 600 raptor helicopter years ago. The hardest part is landing it really soft without cutting the tail boom off lol.
Just outorotate
Fpv a rc boat!
Drew should definitely start racing quads. It’s the next step for him becoming an unstoppable pilot.
the Thumbnail of this video got me LOL
Been waiting ages for this. DribbleCopter
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME
Fpv on Helicopter was done in the Early 80’s. If not already in the 70’s.
That propsicle t shirt is heat 🔥
I’ve done everything from racing 1/8th nitro buggies to 1/4 scale turbine powered jets. Never had the drive to get into the complex intricate helicopters.
You would have to have a love for helicopters, otherwise it would be a frustrating venture. But once you master a collective pitch heli, its like a diploma, or certificate to be proud of. I keep mine on display when I am not flying it, lol. But quite rewarding, trust me.
You guys are so lucky to have the space and the freedom to fly these things. In most habitable parts of the UK, everything is illegal. I cannot fly anything in any of our green areas because of kids and dogs. Dog owners let their dogs run free and don't want them injured by R/C models. Funny how they never consider their dogs to be any kind of threat to the kids running around.
Looks like great fun!
had the fpv helicopter idea for ages, thank u Rotor Riot for awnsering my question by doing this video.
Super awesome watching Drew fly this heli. Reminds me of when I try to fly a quad like Drew.
That was rad.
FPV RC motorcycle. dragging knee would be gnarly AF!
My first flying machine.. Blade EX. It was a little beast.
I’m not a big swag person when it comes to FPV stuff but I’m Diggin that Propsicle shirt
FPV a racing boat!
This video right here is why I quit helis. I saw a bunch of stuff wrong on that heli (possible bent main and feathering shaft with all that wobbling, headspeed way to low, low tail gyro gain and the beast x needed tuned to get rid of the up and down dolphin dip), however one small hit and your bird is down for the day and usually will cost $50 plus to get it back up. I can smash my quad all day and not break anything but props.
I think that Heli is a blade 450x. I flew one for years. The battery is supposed to be mounted up front. The battery mounted underneath like that would make the CG extremely tail heavy and probably while it flew like poop.
Nope. Just a Blade 450 3D. Flybarred. X was flybarless.
@@garrykennedy5484 I don't see a flybar
@@gregtoews7884 You're right. I don't know why I assumed that. Just how it was flying I guess. Very poorly tuned I suppose.
Great video! Maybe a FPV RC Boat :)
Helis were a lot of fun to fly.
That chase footy tho!!!!! 🔥🔥
FPV an RC battle tank with an airsoft cannon. Try to zero the OSD crosshair with the point of impact of the airsoft pellet, and roll around hitting targets.
FPV a quadcopter strapped to a rocket and see if you can safely fly it back home
1. Figure out how to attach the quad to the rocket, while keeping the rocket well balanced
2. How to detach the quad from the rocket when it reaches maximum altitude
RC speed boat could do fpv, could be a nice race on a little lake.
Awesome flying Drew. But I'm like you so scared of them, mainly chopping myself up lol . Great video guys :)
I'm not stop laughing 😂 when l saw thumbnail
Definitely FPV a boat!
Coming from Helis I’ve wanted to do this since I flew my first kwad. It’s amazing how Helis are so mechanically based and proper physical set up is so key vs kwads being mostly electronic and all about FC set up.
If your helicopter works with superglue... buy a serious helicopter... not a single of my T-Rex helicopters work with superglue... Thanks for sharing anyways :o)
Even though I enjoyed the video, I didn't like the way they dissed the heli. Especially the superglue part. I was a heli pilot before a quad pilot and learning to fly a heli was a long yet rewarding venture. The only reason I have a quad is because I wanted to do stress free fpv, but helicopters are my first love.
take one of the spry waterproof race quads and do hetic flying through, air snow water fog rain etc in same flight...bet would be cool vid!
Cool, now get your self a heli chair and fly it with a collective, cyclic and Rudder pedals !
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That music makes me think of Dr.Tom
Does he wear eyeliner though? If he does or not it looks good.
So true, i had an electric heli called the whisper about 20 odd years ago and it cost a fortune to repair all the time, sold it to a local hobby store after owning it for a year.
I put my old Wizard Quads FPV Gear on my 2m Glider and it was super weird, suddenly I went, oh no where am I, I couldn't find my house, finally I did but what a nightmare. Stick to Quads!!!
The wind was your only issue. That and lack of practice. I have an align 450 heli and wanted to do fpv on it, then I decided to get a quad copter and just keep the heli for line of sight.
Very interesting video really enjoyed it always like to see people Thinking outside the box
Imagine drl races with helicopters 😅
You should FPV the RC buggies and go around the rc race tracks
I like your U-well mod!!
Great video guys. I flew my 450 once fpv. Never tried it again. Didn't crash but it was horrifying to fly. No peripheral vision to help land and very easy to drift into obstacles as a helicopter isn't dynamically stable you have fly it just to keep it staying still
Heli racing would be amazing I've been wanting to do this for ages love quads but I started with helis thansk guys loving the show
Add some brushless motors to a skateboard and FPV it!
Some of these helicopters cost more than any drone on the market
Fpv a balloon/blimp! :D
Oh man great video. Was doing this like 8 years ago. Honesty the worst part of doing this "back in the day" was the horrible FPV hardware we had back then. Security cameras, HUGE super hot power hungry VTX and goggles.. Pppphhh! No one had goggles. Now GET OFF MY LAWN! :D
make the broken helicopter a small ceiling fan lol
I tried this way back when Align 450SE V2 was new. Worked great, but I can't fly very well, crashes and trips to hobby shops were frequent lol. Did a bit of hovering around in the yard and basement, took the rig made for my EasyStar plane, stuck it on the 450SE.
"I'm sorry for all the heli guys" it's not so bad once you get good 😬
You are not quite fair.
You have to fit a flight controller onto the helicopter, so it become much more stable.
Naza-H or Wookong-H would smooth out that flight so much, or try a Thunder Tiger Innovator, which is the Phantom2 of the Heli world.
I've been wanting to see someone FPV a nice 3D balsa like 3DHS Slick or something. However, need to be flying harriers, hovers, flat spins knife edge etc.
I've put a camera on a 3D plane and flew it around last year, just to see, if it would be possible. With a fixed camera, all you see most of the time, is the sky, because of the high alpha :D
But I'm experimenting with the head-tracker. Sadly, my first attempt (a Fokker D VII) grew too heavy with the FPV-gear.
Drews chace footage was amazing! was sure he was about to hit it!
Yo guys it’s Parameters menu c in the beastx that allows you to adjust The porpoising that was happening Jeff should know that lol he probably just didn’t want to fuck with it lmao good vid doe!!!
Looks like you guys need a Naza-H on there to smooth out the control inputs.
Maybe you should try FPV on a modded Syma S033G Co-Axial, with weight's under the nose and the tail rotor blade mod to give it proper forward penetration.
Ya'll need a better chopper for this. I'd happy do it on a glow or turbine chopper if I had one.
Also, if you think that's bad to fix, I hope you never crash a balsa-and-ply fixed wing bird.........
fpv + quads is just the way to go
FPV a submarine (clear water) 🤜🏻💥🤛🏻🍻
Fpv a rocket with a kwad strapped so when the rocket is done you take off in the air then land it in water using the boat function
Boat function?
Fun video . Good job !
how about 3rd person helicopter fpv.
stick a camera on the tail to u see the back tail and rotor just on the underside of the screen lookig over the spinning main blade.
that would look so sick
My hubby came to quads from 3d helis and large scale 3d planes... He taught me to fly 3d helis and planes (has a sponsored pilot for S.A.B, Thunder power, Edge, Graupner he uses there Radio systems MZ32 Pro and their chargers Polaron, MKS servos, Barvarioan demon FBL controller) he did FPV on his Goblin 700 with me in the Goggles and him LOS and he was crazy... Totally disoriented to the point of having remove the Goggles because i got sick.... But forward flight was really cool and i have been flying FPV with my Goblin 380 and it's really fun flying Low to the ground and fast. He has done fpv with the bigger birds at low head speed running 6s on a 12s rig.
That heli is poorly setup because they are extremely smooth in forward flight and with a proper collective curve holding your altitude is not hard. The 700 is much much smoother then the 380 but the 380 is so lightning quick on response.
Wow😍 I love Helis. I always thought if it was possible but never had the balls to do that with any of mine...as you said: Too expensive and scary as hell. No space for mistakes. Great video guys! My heart was pumping watching this..