I love helis. I love how much is involved. The challenge. The tuning. How much you actually need to know. The intimidation factor. The noises they make.....
my old Trex600 did FPV just fine back in the early 2000s. i used a monitor at the time though so i could transition quickly from from FPV to LOS and take off and land easily.
I've been flying FPV for about 4 years . This is my t-rex 500x. It flies amazing . Thinking about doing a UA-cam video soonfacebook.com/scotty.mccoy.351/videos/3980098942042771/
It may seem bad in y’alls experience, but the first RC camera platforms for aerial video were huge massive RC Heli’s. And they were stable! Its probably all about tune in the end.
Tune has a lot to do with it, but it's also experience. The quads do SO much for you, weve gotten spoiled with all the tech. Helis had a gyro, often mechanical, and...that was it. If you can fly a helicopter, you can fly a quad but it's not necessarily the other way around. That said, you put a modern chipset on a heli and it becomes muuuuch easier to handle.
Heli's are inherently more stable. They are just much, much harder to control, especially the smaller you get. When you consider an unassisted quad/hex/octocopter vs an unassisted heli, then heli's much better.
Also done it, and also DLG throw powered wings that are launched discus style, quite disconcerting the first time! Flight and landing is no issue at all.
Greg Toews ikr? I bought one awhile back and couldn’t even get the thing to hover never mind actually fly... I just assumed it was defective in some way and gave up...
@@travispratt6327 My first five or so drones were helis - back before quads existed - and they flew really easily. Wasn't 3D - heck, most of them were only 2 channel - but they flew quite nicely.
Vousie V Well that’s not how a real helicopter pilot flies a helicopter... I was referring to collective pitch 6ch helis that are more like how a pilot has to fly, and I’m sure op was too. I’m not sure exactly how how hard they are to fly because I never got mine to fly right, it was always like trying to stand and balance on top of an exercise ball. I did have multiple regular 3ch helis though and they’re easy and simple, basically they’re flying for you with gyro stabilization, a collective pitch 6ch 3D heli is more like a quad in acro mode, center the sticks and it won’t hover, it will just keep flying wherever it was flying, but in my experience the quad is much more predictable and stable. You control the speed of rotation of pitch yaw and roll, then on top of that have to do throttle and blade pitch. It’s by far the most challenging rc experience I’ve had, and I fly 100mph+ rc planes and do real estate videos with a dji phantom gimbal drone.
@@travispratt6327 Yes, I know how 6ch helis fly. My point is that just because it's an RC helicopter doesn't mean it's always difficult to fly. You get different types of helis. Also, the helis I had didn't have actual gyros - this was back in 2006 when gyros were too expensive to put in toys. They literally just had a physical balance bar on the main rotor. By the way, if you can fly 100mph RC planes, then DJI Phantom is really just nothing. Those things are so overly controlled by computer algorithims that I sometimes wonder whether it even really counts as you "flying" them - it's more like the algorithm is flying it and you just give it a general direction you want it to go in.
Vousie V My dji can be controlled like that but that’s not how I use it, I simultaneously use throttle, yaw and gimbal to frame shots while I’m moving is one of the more challenging things with the dji. It’s easy to fly but it’s hard to manipulate to get desired results was my point with that. As for toy grade copters, ya I know they can be easy but nobodies talking about those toy helicopters, they’re talking about 6ch helicopters that simulate a real helicopter, there’s no 2 or 3ch manned helicopters that I’m aware of, he said he’s respectful of helicopter pilots, I wouldn’t consider someone pushing up on a 2ch toy heli a helicopter pilot.
What I’ve done was I put a full fpv set up on a trex 700. When I say full. I mean head tracking, diversity, OSD W/BARO&COMPASS, HD... IT WORKS VERY NICELY. I went ahead and turned it into a gunship for paintball. Mounted a tippman automatic paintball gun on it and it worked perfectly! It was a gorgeous thing to fly and it kicked ass! It was very smooth. What I see in this video is that the gains were off balance and it was only trying to over compensate.
That is EXACTLY the reason why I've started flying heli and I've stopped pretty much at the beginning. Also the reason why I've started this FPV thing with a FUTABA T7C (!). Basically, to fly heli, you'll pretty much lose sight of it if it is too small. So, you need that big, to be able to see what is doing, and where the tail is oriented. BUT, again, the bigger, the more expensive, and that is what happen when you crash: most of the times, almost all parts are gone, and you should not only buy everything again, wich sometimes isn't that expensive, but you cannot fly for weeks, trying to have some hour to fix it. I've left, with my TRex still in his box, and other 2 mini less than an hour of flight. Then, drones, or quad, and FPV began. Life changer! Of course it's a different thing, but at the end of the day is hard enough to be a lot interesting and fun, and way less expensive in terms of time and money.
I think that Heli is a blade 450x. I flew one for years. The battery is supposed to be mounted up front. The battery mounted underneath like that would make the CG extremely tail heavy and probably while it flew like poop.
DaRoach5882 yeah I don’t understand what the big deal is. FPV has been around for ever. This isn’t new. Stick controls are identical. Whatever cool video regardless
@@jbw5485 Lol ... For us old folks , F.P.V. is still pretty new , however OUR first remote , was a string connected to a cox fueled airplane.lol... Back in the late 60's lol ( F.P.V. ,,, IS BASICALLY BRAND NEW ) to adults..lol
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jbw5485 Thanks for these links. I've seen the first one before. Great achievement. Extra credit will go to the last video though. That guy did a bit more than just fly circuits. The others are simple circuits. Don't get me wrong - I'm a heli flyer. I congratulate you and those others who've done it. I'm not going to try it - I'm VLOS flyer. But when I hear something like, "it's all been done before, to me that implies most people have attempted it and the fad has passed. In fact, the fad never took off. That's why I made my initial comment when I did. Cheers, and fly well.
Team Echelon was doing this back when the kk2 board was still popular but i appreciate you bringing it back to life and offering a different look at fpv for a change
I started with fpv on a helicopter more than 10 years ago on a modified 450 (Align trex). It's by far the best way to enjoy piloting of a real rc platform, even if back then many things were not as good or cheap as today. It's nice to see you guys catching up...
done that,, on sonic wake,,, and old k&b tunnel hull,,, water isn't to friendly to vtx ,, can keep it dry but gets hot and burns up,,, only used cheap vtx though ... put it old nitro savage 4x4 that was cool
Seriously, I’ve been flying FPV with my 35 pound, 2.5 meter turbine XLV since 2005. I started out on my Schluter Champion back in 1985 FPV... You guys are so behind the times😜
You can get 6 angle Flybarless units with GPS units that changes any RC helicopter into a drone that’s locked in that can fly themselves and can be programmed to autonomously fly a course. I love RC helicopters and that was a very minor crash that looked like maybe, maybe $20 for new landing skids if you can’t mend your broken skids and the boom support. The boom support saved your tail boom saving you the effort of replacing the boom. Main gear is roughly $5, servo gear kits for sub micro servos are roughly $15 from Horizon Hobby. That was a good crash. If your feather spindle is still true and main shaft is still true you’re all good but a good rule of thumb is to not chance it and replace the feather spindle and main shaft after every crash to give you some piece of mind. I’ve had many minor crashes and the heli just didn’t fly good till I replaced the main shaft and feather spindle. The slightest bend in either will give you issues. The same is true for the tail feather spindle. Helps are great and I really wish people wouldn’t down talk RC helis scaring people away. RC helicopters are far more rewarding to fly as they are extremely hard to fly. Drones are nothing like RC helicopters so please don’t even try to compare them. I am very passionate about my hobby and just want to see more people try helis out because they are a huge challenge. The thing is that any one can pick up a drone and fly it with ease, a helicopter is a skill that requires a lot of training and learning. If you really want a challenge come to helis. If you want to just play around buy a drone but don’t you dare put helis down.
@@bearlaceration8971 it's all good man... I think he was just joking about the flight end procedures. I don't think anyone disagrees it takes a lot more skill to fly a heli.
Right? I fly 100% better FPV than I ever did LOS. I wanted to be a pilot, and FPV gives me the ability to kinda do so. Also modern radios are SO much nicer than AM band radios... ugh, someone makes a hot pocket and my old plane would be going into the trees.
Flying RC Helicopters is not for everybody. It takes perseverance and patience. but when you get it it is very rewarding. After reaching a high level of proficiency (piro-flip level). Flying anything else is super easy FPV adds a different dynamic, it's fun
I think it´s time for 3PV. Put up a few FPV cameras and VTX.s around Rotor Riot HQ, set them to different channels, put a pair of goggles on someone and give him or her some 3rd person view missions!
Coming from Helis I’ve wanted to do this since I flew my first kwad. It’s amazing how Helis are so mechanically based and proper physical set up is so key vs kwads being mostly electronic and all about FC set up.
You could select cockpit view in the heli sims way back in the day before FPV and Quads even were a thing . I used to sim in FPV view a lot when flying helis and was one of the first things I did when 1.3 ghz VTXs and cameras got small . Scale flying is more suited for FPV helis though. Easy to fly quads were boring but lately have become more agile and entertaining with the racing and DJI HD capabilities . Still want to put a DJI Air unit in one of my scale Hughes 500s though :)
I have been flying FPV on my helicopteres for quite a while now. I found that padding the camera mount with a gel pad or rubber softmounts"HARD NOT SOFT" will lessen the nausea from movements. Also a unify pro hv and ru ncam are what I use but i bneeded a massive cap and high video power overcame the sparkles and gave me clear video. With my helis being higfh dolar, the minimum is about $1200.00 I have yet to get the balls up to invert so congrats. I fly better PV than line of sight. Todays another fly day so enjoy.
FPV an RC battle tank with an airsoft cannon. Try to zero the OSD crosshair with the point of impact of the airsoft pellet, and roll around hitting targets.
Something the multirotor guys might not be aware of is that you have to balance the center of gravity planes and helicopters for them to fly well. That horrible porpoising this thing had, in heli/plane world that is a really clear sign of being tail-heavy. When they took the battery off of the front and put it on the bottom, they were making the helicopter incredibly unstable; it's a miracle of modern engineering the flight controller could control that thing at all.
You guys are so lucky to have the space and the freedom to fly these things. In most habitable parts of the UK, everything is illegal. I cannot fly anything in any of our green areas because of kids and dogs. Dog owners let their dogs run free and don't want them injured by R/C models. Funny how they never consider their dogs to be any kind of threat to the kids running around.
The wind was your only issue. That and lack of practice. I have an align 450 heli and wanted to do fpv on it, then I decided to get a quad copter and just keep the heli for line of sight.
This video right here is why I quit helis. I saw a bunch of stuff wrong on that heli (possible bent main and feathering shaft with all that wobbling, headspeed way to low, low tail gyro gain and the beast x needed tuned to get rid of the up and down dolphin dip), however one small hit and your bird is down for the day and usually will cost $50 plus to get it back up. I can smash my quad all day and not break anything but props.
There is nothing more exhilarating than flying an RC Heli the first time. Just hovering the first time is SUCH a rush. But like you said, that is why I moved to drones. One little blip in a heli means a 2 hours repair session.
So true, i had an electric heli called the whisper about 20 odd years ago and it cost a fortune to repair all the time, sold it to a local hobby store after owning it for a year.
I tried this way back when Align 450SE V2 was new. Worked great, but I can't fly very well, crashes and trips to hobby shops were frequent lol. Did a bit of hovering around in the yard and basement, took the rig made for my EasyStar plane, stuck it on the 450SE.
I've been wanting to see someone FPV a nice 3D balsa like 3DHS Slick or something. However, need to be flying harriers, hovers, flat spins knife edge etc.
I've put a camera on a 3D plane and flew it around last year, just to see, if it would be possible. With a fixed camera, all you see most of the time, is the sky, because of the high alpha :D But I'm experimenting with the head-tracker. Sadly, my first attempt (a Fokker D VII) grew too heavy with the FPV-gear.
I got enjoyable performance out of a micro heli. Xk110 and a micro camera/transmitter. The 450 sized heli should feel a lot more locked in I would think.
just thinking about it you would need to super balance everything. Brushless servos, and actual gyro installed. I bet that matchup will make it smooth.
Couldn't a tri-copter use like 3 inch props on the two front arms and then like a 5 inch prop on the tail? The later tail prop giving it more yaw authority?
Looks like you guys need a Naza-H on there to smooth out the control inputs. Maybe you should try FPV on a modded Syma S033G Co-Axial, with weight's under the nose and the tail rotor blade mod to give it proper forward penetration.
I’ve done everything from racing 1/8th nitro buggies to 1/4 scale turbine powered jets. Never had the drive to get into the complex intricate helicopters.
You would have to have a love for helicopters, otherwise it would be a frustrating venture. But once you master a collective pitch heli, its like a diploma, or certificate to be proud of. I keep mine on display when I am not flying it, lol. But quite rewarding, trust me.
That's a Blade 400. most helicopters from Horizon Hobby suck when it comes to the stabilization, so I'm not surprised it flew so bad. Try a Trex 150 X micro and it will fly better lol.
Challenge: Visit a spot/bando that you know every corner of. Enable horizontal flip in your fpv camera and invert the yaw and roll output in your remote. For you everything looks mirrored but everyone else will see you fly normally.
I have FPV'd my ⅛ scale off-road 4wd buggy. Really different experience. Pretty cool perspective. But it bounces way to much, you're going way to fast, and with your field of view basically cut in half, since the ground takes up the bottom half of your screen. It's hard to see far enough down the track to react in time for corners. Jumps, and obstacles. And if you tumble or spin out it's hard to reference and judge distance and where you're at in relation to the track. But it was interesting to see the front suspension working it's ass off. So I mounted a go pro in the fpv cameras place and took some video of just one control arm and shock. It's pretty wild. It was doing alot more than I thought.
Great video guys. I flew my 450 once fpv. Never tried it again. Didn't crash but it was horrifying to fly. No peripheral vision to help land and very easy to drift into obstacles as a helicopter isn't dynamically stable you have fly it just to keep it staying still
My hubby came to quads from 3d helis and large scale 3d planes... He taught me to fly 3d helis and planes (has a sponsored pilot for S.A.B, Thunder power, Edge, Graupner he uses there Radio systems MZ32 Pro and their chargers Polaron, MKS servos, Barvarioan demon FBL controller) he did FPV on his Goblin 700 with me in the Goggles and him LOS and he was crazy... Totally disoriented to the point of having remove the Goggles because i got sick.... But forward flight was really cool and i have been flying FPV with my Goblin 380 and it's really fun flying Low to the ground and fast. He has done fpv with the bigger birds at low head speed running 6s on a 12s rig. That heli is poorly setup because they are extremely smooth in forward flight and with a proper collective curve holding your altitude is not hard. The 700 is much much smoother then the 380 but the 380 is so lightning quick on response.
I've been doing this since early spring on a couple different platforms. So far my favorite has been the goblin fireball. I'm setting it up with crossfire right now 😎
I just pushed the like button. It's been running through my mind to FPV a heli. I think you guys would have had better luck with the GooSky S2. I try inverted flight today with mine and it was all over the place.
Oh man great video. Was doing this like 8 years ago. Honesty the worst part of doing this "back in the day" was the horrible FPV hardware we had back then. Security cameras, HUGE super hot power hungry VTX and goggles.. Pppphhh! No one had goggles. Now GET OFF MY LAWN! :D
how about 3rd person helicopter fpv. stick a camera on the tail to u see the back tail and rotor just on the underside of the screen lookig over the spinning main blade. that would look so sick
Wow😍 I love Helis. I always thought if it was possible but never had the balls to do that with any of mine...as you said: Too expensive and scary as hell. No space for mistakes. Great video guys! My heart was pumping watching this..
I keep thinking it would be pretty cool to mount the FPV camera on a carbon fibre boom that positions it a couple feet behind the quad, Giving it more of a third rather than first person view.
I tried this years ago. It's pretty much the same control as a quad almost. The tail isn't locked in as much as a quad. It was sketchy and I didn't want to wreck my heli lol.
I love helis. I love how much is involved. The challenge. The tuning. How much you actually need to know. The intimidation factor. The noises they make.....
FPV a drift RC car and try follow with a Tiny whoop.. LOL
I have already done that ( fpv drift car). Be blessed
FPV RC-Drift solo, Tandem and Train we done allready. Have to chase it with my TinyHawk next time. ;-)
I did that with my 5", so much fun!
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Properly tuned 700 clas heli would fly just fine even in FPV. A lot more stable in the wind.
my old Trex600 did FPV just fine back in the early 2000s. i used a monitor at the time though so i could transition quickly from from FPV to LOS and take off and land easily.
On flymentor autopilot 500size heli, great experience with a head-tracking fpv cam..here’s the awesome view from its cockpit /watch?v=-CZlLvsEIpo
just not worth the hassle tuning a heli.
kind of not the same.......your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to put the goggles on and then try fly that 700.
and a lot more unstable in the pocket
I really wish you'd used a properly tuned and well flying cp heli for this. This clearly wasn't exactly ideal, even LoS...
Agreed, my beater 450 made from parts from 3 different helicopters flies much better.
I've been flying FPV for about 4 years . This is my t-rex 500x. It flies amazing . Thinking about doing a UA-cam video soonfacebook.com/scotty.mccoy.351/videos/3980098942042771/
It may seem bad in y’alls experience, but the first RC camera platforms for aerial video were huge massive RC Heli’s. And they were stable! Its probably all about tune in the end.
Tune has a lot to do with it, but it's also experience. The quads do SO much for you, weve gotten spoiled with all the tech. Helis had a gyro, often mechanical, and...that was it. If you can fly a helicopter, you can fly a quad but it's not necessarily the other way around. That said, you put a modern chipset on a heli and it becomes muuuuch easier to handle.
Heli's are inherently more stable. They are just much, much harder to control, especially the smaller you get. When you consider an unassisted quad/hex/octocopter vs an unassisted heli, then heli's much better.
Challenge: FPV a DLG glider from takeoff to landing, staying in the goggles as it's getting thrown!
That's hot
Would be cool, but Vomit Emoji
Done it, slope soaring FPV is a religious experience.
Also done it, and also DLG throw powered wings that are launched discus style, quite disconcerting the first time! Flight and landing is no issue at all.
@@chasew3947 god yes. Sailing on thermals, long flight, you forget you exist back on the ground.
I have been flying my 450 FPV for a couple years and I have never had the issues you guys have. Tune much? C'mon guys, do it right.
You guys should have invited Kyle Stacy, he can fly a heli fpv like nobody...dude is insane!!!
Excited to see more 3D content on the channel- I wanna see Jeff FPV his larger setup and fly it 3D!
I have great respect for helicopter pilots, I used to fly one back in the old days and those things are as challenging as hell to master.
Greg Toews ikr? I bought one awhile back and couldn’t even get the thing to hover never mind actually fly... I just assumed it was defective in some way and gave up...
@@travispratt6327 My first five or so drones were helis - back before quads existed - and they flew really easily. Wasn't 3D - heck, most of them were only 2 channel - but they flew quite nicely.
Vousie V Well that’s not how a real helicopter pilot flies a helicopter... I was referring to collective pitch 6ch helis that are more like how a pilot has to fly, and I’m sure op was too. I’m not sure exactly how how hard they are to fly because I never got mine to fly right, it was always like trying to stand and balance on top of an exercise ball. I did have multiple regular 3ch helis though and they’re easy and simple, basically they’re flying for you with gyro stabilization, a collective pitch 6ch 3D heli is more like a quad in acro mode, center the sticks and it won’t hover, it will just keep flying wherever it was flying, but in my experience the quad is much more predictable and stable. You control the speed of rotation of pitch yaw and roll, then on top of that have to do throttle and blade pitch. It’s by far the most challenging rc experience I’ve had, and I fly 100mph+ rc planes and do real estate videos with a dji phantom gimbal drone.
@@travispratt6327 Yes, I know how 6ch helis fly. My point is that just because it's an RC helicopter doesn't mean it's always difficult to fly. You get different types of helis. Also, the helis I had didn't have actual gyros - this was back in 2006 when gyros were too expensive to put in toys. They literally just had a physical balance bar on the main rotor. By the way, if you can fly 100mph RC planes, then DJI Phantom is really just nothing. Those things are so overly controlled by computer algorithims that I sometimes wonder whether it even really counts as you "flying" them - it's more like the algorithm is flying it and you just give it a general direction you want it to go in.
Vousie V My dji can be controlled like that but that’s not how I use it, I simultaneously use throttle, yaw and gimbal to frame shots while I’m moving is one of the more challenging things with the dji. It’s easy to fly but it’s hard to manipulate to get desired results was my point with that.
As for toy grade copters, ya I know they can be easy but nobodies talking about those toy helicopters, they’re talking about 6ch helicopters that simulate a real helicopter, there’s no 2 or 3ch manned helicopters that I’m aware of, he said he’s respectful of helicopter pilots, I wouldn’t consider someone pushing up on a 2ch toy heli a helicopter pilot.
What I’ve done was I put a full fpv set up on a trex 700. When I say full. I mean head tracking, diversity, OSD W/BARO&COMPASS, HD... IT WORKS VERY NICELY. I went ahead and turned it into a gunship for paintball. Mounted a tippman automatic paintball gun on it and it worked perfectly! It was a gorgeous thing to fly and it kicked ass! It was very smooth. What I see in this video is that the gains were off balance and it was only trying to over compensate.
That is EXACTLY the reason why I've started flying heli and I've stopped pretty much at the beginning. Also the reason why I've started this FPV thing with a FUTABA T7C (!). Basically, to fly heli, you'll pretty much lose sight of it if it is too small. So, you need that big, to be able to see what is doing, and where the tail is oriented. BUT, again, the bigger, the more expensive, and that is what happen when you crash: most of the times, almost all parts are gone, and you should not only buy everything again, wich sometimes isn't that expensive, but you cannot fly for weeks, trying to have some hour to fix it. I've left, with my TRex still in his box, and other 2 mini less than an hour of flight. Then, drones, or quad, and FPV began. Life changer! Of course it's a different thing, but at the end of the day is hard enough to be a lot interesting and fun, and way less expensive in terms of time and money.
I think that Heli is a blade 450x. I flew one for years. The battery is supposed to be mounted up front. The battery mounted underneath like that would make the CG extremely tail heavy and probably while it flew like poop.
Nope. Just a Blade 450 3D. Flybarred. X was flybarless.
@@garrykennedy5484 I don't see a flybar
@@gregtoews7884 You're right. I don't know why I assumed that. Just how it was flying I guess. Very poorly tuned I suppose.
Get Tareq Alsaadi as a guest. he is an insane heli pilot.
I have fpv'd my old T-Rex 600 and it actually flew just fine and was really fun!
DaRoach5882 yeah I don’t understand what the big deal is. FPV has been around for ever. This isn’t new. Stick controls are identical. Whatever cool video regardless
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Lol ... For us old folks ,
F.P.V. is still pretty new , however OUR first remote , was a string connected to a cox fueled airplane.lol...
Back in the late 60's lol
( F.P.V. ,,, IS BASICALLY BRAND NEW ) to adults..lol
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It’s been done successfully multiple times. A million times better than dribbles attempt in this vid. Move along.
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Thanks for these links. I've seen the first one before. Great achievement. Extra credit will go to the last video though. That guy did a bit more than just fly circuits. The others are simple circuits. Don't get me wrong - I'm a heli flyer. I congratulate you and those others who've done it. I'm not going to try it - I'm VLOS flyer. But when I hear something like, "it's all been done before, to me that implies most people have attempted it and the fad has passed. In fact, the fad never took off. That's why I made my initial comment when I did. Cheers, and fly well.
Richard Cerni we’re both saying the same thing. Haha 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Team Echelon was doing this back when the kk2 board was still popular
but i appreciate you bringing it back to life and offering a different look at fpv for a change
I started with fpv on a helicopter more than 10 years ago on a modified 450 (Align trex). It's by far the best way to enjoy piloting of a real rc platform, even if back then many things were not as good or cheap as today. It's nice to see you guys catching up...
I've seen fpv heli footage from before quads existed and it was fine, it was better than this.
Raz Taz exactly. Don’t know what their deal was. Poorly set up heli
Here is your problem....LOL, it's a fucking BLADE!
OMG, it's Drip's heli. Problem #2
@@jbw5485 Maybe just because it was a 450 size?
Nander0 true. Most of the really nice fpv stuff is with much larger helis.
FPV a rc boat!
Put crossfire and a pro32 1w vtx on it then take out on a lake or calm ocean
done that,, on sonic wake,,, and old k&b tunnel hull,,, water isn't to friendly to vtx ,, can keep it dry but gets hot and burns up,,, only used cheap vtx though ... put it old nitro savage 4x4 that was cool
English channel
water cool the VTX. not a big deal. just like water cooling an electric boat's esc.
Seriously, I’ve been flying FPV with my 35 pound, 2.5 meter turbine XLV since 2005. I started out on my Schluter Champion back in 1985 FPV... You guys are so behind the times😜
You can get 6 angle Flybarless units with GPS units that changes any RC helicopter into a drone that’s locked in that can fly themselves and can be programmed to autonomously fly a course. I love RC helicopters and that was a very minor crash that looked like maybe, maybe $20 for new landing skids if you can’t mend your broken skids and the boom support. The boom support saved your tail boom saving you the effort of replacing the boom. Main gear is roughly $5, servo gear kits for sub micro servos are roughly $15 from Horizon Hobby. That was a good crash. If your feather spindle is still true and main shaft is still true you’re all good but a good rule of thumb is to not chance it and replace the feather spindle and main shaft after every crash to give you some piece of mind. I’ve had many minor crashes and the heli just didn’t fly good till I replaced the main shaft and feather spindle. The slightest bend in either will give you issues. The same is true for the tail feather spindle. Helps are great and I really wish people wouldn’t down talk RC helis scaring people away. RC helicopters are far more rewarding to fly as they are extremely hard to fly. Drones are nothing like RC helicopters so please don’t even try to compare them. I am very passionate about my hobby and just want to see more people try helis out because they are a huge challenge. The thing is that any one can pick up a drone and fly it with ease, a helicopter is a skill that requires a lot of training and learning. If you really want a challenge come to helis. If you want to just play around buy a drone but don’t you dare put helis down.
Please try fpv the collective pitch quad from flite test!!
lance vanvelzen that’s what I fly, and I’ve asked that so many times.
@@angelisfpv hopefully now they actually do it
Quad pilot: Disarm via 2 switches & disconnect battery before touching. Heli pilot: just pick it up by the prop!
I mean when the heli props dont spin there is no danger. They need like 10seconds to spin up and these motors have like 0.01Nm of torque
Lol. sounds worse than it is. Helicopters have a throttle hold and the props don't go from 0 to 10k rpm in an second lol.
@@bearlaceration8971 it's all good man... I think he was just joking about the flight end procedures. I don't think anyone disagrees it takes a lot more skill to fly a heli.
Even tho the heli fly like crap fpv ! It’s all about the chasing of the helicopter 🚁 that part was dope as hell 👌🏻
When i was a little kid, more then 20 y ago i dreamed of flying fpv. Tech wasn't there yet. When i found out fpv drones my life has changed😍
Right? I fly 100% better FPV than I ever did LOS. I wanted to be a pilot, and FPV gives me the ability to kinda do so.
Also modern radios are SO much nicer than AM band radios... ugh, someone makes a hot pocket and my old plane would be going into the trees.
F.P.V. 👍
EVERYTHING NEEDS F.P.V.
EVERYTHING !!!
😎👍
@d c
SWEEEEET 😎💨
@d c
That would probably be the coolest remote controlled thing ever ..
There's got to be a way to send a signal underwater. ..
😎👍
Flying RC Helicopters is not for everybody. It takes perseverance and patience. but when you get it it is very rewarding.
After reaching a high level of proficiency (piro-flip level). Flying anything else is super easy
FPV adds a different dynamic, it's fun
Drew could chase it cause he had hd view from dji. Which makes it alot easier to see the heli.
I'd love to see you guys FPV a control line (U-control) model aircraft! Great video!
It would be funny to also have a motor spinning it around that is controlled by the throttle.
I think it´s time for 3PV. Put up a few FPV cameras and VTX.s around Rotor Riot HQ, set them to different channels, put a pair of goggles on someone and give him or her some 3rd person view missions!
Coming from Helis I’ve wanted to do this since I flew my first kwad. It’s amazing how Helis are so mechanically based and proper physical set up is so key vs kwads being mostly electronic and all about FC set up.
You could select cockpit view in the heli sims way back in the day before FPV and Quads even were a thing . I used to sim in FPV view a lot when flying helis and was one of the first things I did when 1.3 ghz VTXs and cameras got small . Scale flying is more suited for FPV helis though. Easy to fly quads were boring but lately have become more agile and entertaining with the racing and DJI HD capabilities . Still want to put a DJI Air unit in one of my scale Hughes 500s though :)
That was the most honest Blade 450 commercial ever!
I have been flying FPV on my helicopteres for quite a while now. I found that padding the camera mount with a gel pad or rubber softmounts"HARD NOT SOFT" will lessen the nausea from movements. Also a unify pro hv and ru ncam are what I use but i bneeded a massive cap and high video power overcame the sparkles and gave me clear video. With my helis being higfh dolar, the minimum is about $1200.00 I have yet to get the balls up to invert so congrats. I fly better PV than line of sight. Todays another fly day so enjoy.
I fpv a 600 raptor helicopter years ago. The hardest part is landing it really soft without cutting the tail boom off lol.
Just outorotate
Thats why heli pilots are the best pilots.
Super awesome watching Drew fly this heli. Reminds me of when I try to fly a quad like Drew.
FPV an RC battle tank with an airsoft cannon. Try to zero the OSD crosshair with the point of impact of the airsoft pellet, and roll around hitting targets.
Chasing the dragonfly! So awesome.
Something the multirotor guys might not be aware of is that you have to balance the center of gravity planes and helicopters for them to fly well.
That horrible porpoising this thing had, in heli/plane world that is a really clear sign of being tail-heavy. When they took the battery off of the front and put it on the bottom, they were making the helicopter incredibly unstable; it's a miracle of modern engineering the flight controller could control that thing at all.
You guys are so lucky to have the space and the freedom to fly these things. In most habitable parts of the UK, everything is illegal. I cannot fly anything in any of our green areas because of kids and dogs. Dog owners let their dogs run free and don't want them injured by R/C models. Funny how they never consider their dogs to be any kind of threat to the kids running around.
I love how terrified drew is of the helicopter
Dave's tri copter needs some love
The wind was your only issue. That and lack of practice. I have an align 450 heli and wanted to do fpv on it, then I decided to get a quad copter and just keep the heli for line of sight.
This video right here is why I quit helis. I saw a bunch of stuff wrong on that heli (possible bent main and feathering shaft with all that wobbling, headspeed way to low, low tail gyro gain and the beast x needed tuned to get rid of the up and down dolphin dip), however one small hit and your bird is down for the day and usually will cost $50 plus to get it back up. I can smash my quad all day and not break anything but props.
Nice work, I never thought about FPV with Helis. I think even 450 size heli, the blades carry a lot of energy, good work guys. Stay safe!
had the fpv helicopter idea for ages, thank u Rotor Riot for awnsering my question by doing this video.
FPV RC motorcycle. dragging knee would be gnarly AF!
Fpv a rc boat!
There is nothing more exhilarating than flying an RC Heli the first time. Just hovering the first time is SUCH a rush. But like you said, that is why I moved to drones. One little blip in a heli means a 2 hours repair session.
Drew should definitely start racing quads. It’s the next step for him becoming an unstoppable pilot.
50K "LIKES"...LETS DO IT!!!! I Want to see the BIG BOY FLY!!!
So true, i had an electric heli called the whisper about 20 odd years ago and it cost a fortune to repair all the time, sold it to a local hobby store after owning it for a year.
I'm not stop laughing 😂 when l saw thumbnail
I tried this way back when Align 450SE V2 was new. Worked great, but I can't fly very well, crashes and trips to hobby shops were frequent lol. Did a bit of hovering around in the yard and basement, took the rig made for my EasyStar plane, stuck it on the 450SE.
I've been wanting to see someone FPV a nice 3D balsa like 3DHS Slick or something. However, need to be flying harriers, hovers, flat spins knife edge etc.
I've put a camera on a 3D plane and flew it around last year, just to see, if it would be possible. With a fixed camera, all you see most of the time, is the sky, because of the high alpha :D
But I'm experimenting with the head-tracker. Sadly, my first attempt (a Fokker D VII) grew too heavy with the FPV-gear.
I wish i had FPV when i was doing rc helies 15-20yrs ago! Would saved me alot of hussle
FPV a model fighterjet from the cockpit with HUD display!
I got enjoyable performance out of a micro heli. Xk110 and a micro camera/transmitter. The 450 sized heli should feel a lot more locked in I would think.
IS that Frostie the snow man DUDE WEARING EYE LINER? Hahahahaha
just thinking about it you would need to super balance everything. Brushless servos, and actual gyro installed. I bet that matchup will make it smooth.
David’s bi-copter FPV!
Couldn't a tri-copter use like 3 inch props on the two front arms and then like a 5 inch prop on the tail? The later tail prop giving it more yaw authority?
Looks like you guys need a Naza-H on there to smooth out the control inputs.
Maybe you should try FPV on a modded Syma S033G Co-Axial, with weight's under the nose and the tail rotor blade mod to give it proper forward penetration.
It would be cool to FPV a Scale realistic helicopter with an interior!
I’ve done everything from racing 1/8th nitro buggies to 1/4 scale turbine powered jets. Never had the drive to get into the complex intricate helicopters.
You would have to have a love for helicopters, otherwise it would be a frustrating venture. But once you master a collective pitch heli, its like a diploma, or certificate to be proud of. I keep mine on display when I am not flying it, lol. But quite rewarding, trust me.
I’m not a big swag person when it comes to FPV stuff but I’m Diggin that Propsicle shirt
That's a Blade 400. most helicopters from Horizon Hobby suck when it comes to the stabilization, so I'm not surprised it flew so bad. Try a Trex 150 X micro and it will fly better lol.
Challenge: Visit a spot/bando that you know every corner of. Enable horizontal flip in your fpv camera and invert the yaw and roll output in your remote. For you everything looks mirrored but everyone else will see you fly normally.
I have FPV'd my ⅛ scale off-road 4wd buggy. Really different experience. Pretty cool perspective. But it bounces way to much, you're going way to fast, and with your field of view basically cut in half, since the ground takes up the bottom half of your screen.
It's hard to see far enough down the track to react in time for corners. Jumps, and obstacles. And if you tumble or spin out it's hard to reference and judge distance and where you're at in relation to the track. But it was interesting to see the front suspension working it's ass off. So I mounted a go pro in the fpv cameras place and took some video of just one control arm and shock. It's pretty wild. It was doing alot more than I thought.
RC speed boat could do fpv, could be a nice race on a little lake.
Great video guys. I flew my 450 once fpv. Never tried it again. Didn't crash but it was horrifying to fly. No peripheral vision to help land and very easy to drift into obstacles as a helicopter isn't dynamically stable you have fly it just to keep it staying still
Fixed wing is my jam.... but if you want to try something different, maybe a fast boat, or 1/5 scale gas buggy.
I've setup FPV on a few model trains before and that has always been fun.
My hubby came to quads from 3d helis and large scale 3d planes... He taught me to fly 3d helis and planes (has a sponsored pilot for S.A.B, Thunder power, Edge, Graupner he uses there Radio systems MZ32 Pro and their chargers Polaron, MKS servos, Barvarioan demon FBL controller) he did FPV on his Goblin 700 with me in the Goggles and him LOS and he was crazy... Totally disoriented to the point of having remove the Goggles because i got sick.... But forward flight was really cool and i have been flying FPV with my Goblin 380 and it's really fun flying Low to the ground and fast. He has done fpv with the bigger birds at low head speed running 6s on a 12s rig.
That heli is poorly setup because they are extremely smooth in forward flight and with a proper collective curve holding your altitude is not hard. The 700 is much much smoother then the 380 but the 380 is so lightning quick on response.
Cool, stupid question did you check the CG with the battery strapped between the skids?
Does he wear eyeliner though? If he does or not it looks good.
I've been doing this since early spring on a couple different platforms. So far my favorite has been the goblin fireball. I'm setting it up with crossfire right now 😎
You are not quite fair.
You have to fit a flight controller onto the helicopter, so it become much more stable.
Naza-H or Wookong-H would smooth out that flight so much, or try a Thunder Tiger Innovator, which is the Phantom2 of the Heli world.
What's the best headset to pair with an fpv build? Any recommendations?
I just pushed the like button. It's been running through my mind to FPV a heli. I think you guys would have had better luck with the GooSky S2. I try inverted flight today with mine and it was all over the place.
did you FPV a heli yet?
@flat-earther haha.. no I haven't yet. That copter kept losing connections when I try hard pitch pumps and falls out of the sky.
Oh man great video. Was doing this like 8 years ago. Honesty the worst part of doing this "back in the day" was the horrible FPV hardware we had back then. Security cameras, HUGE super hot power hungry VTX and goggles.. Pppphhh! No one had goggles. Now GET OFF MY LAWN! :D
Been waiting ages for this. DribbleCopter
the Thumbnail of this video got me LOL
how about 3rd person helicopter fpv.
stick a camera on the tail to u see the back tail and rotor just on the underside of the screen lookig over the spinning main blade.
that would look so sick
Hi what frsky reciever you recomend
rxsr for everything
Sure wish we could do more investigation with the 450 and a flight controller, probably running Beta or even a Naza Heli-H ...
My first flying machine.. Blade EX. It was a little beast.
Heli racing would be amazing I've been wanting to do this for ages love quads but I started with helis thansk guys loving the show
hey guys, what about the blade micro chopper...MCX I think?? I've been trying with no success, you got any ideas?!?!
Wow😍 I love Helis. I always thought if it was possible but never had the balls to do that with any of mine...as you said: Too expensive and scary as hell. No space for mistakes. Great video guys! My heart was pumping watching this..
That propsicle t shirt is heat 🔥
take one of the spry waterproof race quads and do hetic flying through, air snow water fog rain etc in same flight...bet would be cool vid!
Curious Drew, how much did having the DJI HD FPV system help with chasing the heli? I assume it helped at least a little bit.
I was gonna saw, Jaboi mentioned not knowing how drib chased him.... maybe because he has HD video
It helped a lot. It was still very difficult but there was much better contrast
- Drew
I keep thinking it would be pretty cool to mount the FPV camera on a carbon fibre boom that positions it a couple feet behind the quad, Giving it more of a third rather than first person view.
Helis were a lot of fun to fly.
Great video! Maybe a FPV RC Boat :)
I tried this years ago. It's pretty much the same control as a quad almost. The tail isn't locked in as much as a quad. It was sketchy and I didn't want to wreck my heli lol.
That chase footy tho!!!!! 🔥🔥
Very interesting video really enjoyed it always like to see people Thinking outside the box