House of the Dragon Season 2 ~ Lost in Adaptation

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  • @AK-tr6lo
    @AK-tr6lo 3 місяці тому +1378

    Neat implication about Cheese’s fate from the main series: when Cersei is tearing apart the tower of the hand after Tywin’s death they mention that they found a pile of yellow bones in a pit of rats with a bag of coins from the era of the first king Viserys. A lot of fans have speculated those bones were cheese who either fell into some secret trap while trying to escape the tower or was killed by Blood to try and tie up loose ends.

    • @RussellB
      @RussellB 3 місяці тому +70

      Yellow bones as in, Cheese had nacho cheese bones?

    • @AK-tr6lo
      @AK-tr6lo 3 місяці тому +205

      @@RussellB bones can turn yellow over time, but some people use the color as thematic evidence to support the theory.

    • @zombiekungfumaster
      @zombiekungfumaster 3 місяці тому +131

      yeah, my bet was always that they never found Cheese because Blood killed him, exactly like he threatened to do in the show

    • @AK-tr6lo
      @AK-tr6lo 3 місяці тому +77

      @@zombiekungfumaster not an unreasonable assumption since Blood is mentioned to be one of the gold cloaks devoted to Daemon while Cheese may have just been in it for the money.

    • @adamschaenzer6941
      @adamschaenzer6941 3 місяці тому +46

      My guess would be the former rather than the latter. If Blood killed him for the money and tie up loose ends, why leave the gold behind?

  • @anonymousperson8475
    @anonymousperson8475 3 місяці тому +907

    Slashing the budget of your flagship show, the show that JUST lifted you back into the forefront of the streaming world, the show that was called rushed in season 1 is one of the dumbest things a studio/streaming service has ever done.

    • @louyou6614
      @louyou6614 3 місяці тому +58

      Smartest move by executives be like

    • @TaeSunWoo
      @TaeSunWoo 3 місяці тому +93

      They’re wealthy, not smart 😞

    • @gamebawesome
      @gamebawesome 3 місяці тому +71

      Which is weird, since HBO offered Dumb & Dumber more episodes, which they refused because they wanted to rush it

    • @louyou6614
      @louyou6614 3 місяці тому +44

      @gamebawesome under new management and different situation both culturally , hotd is not the phenomenon got was , and financially , the economy is not what is used to be , and hbo is not doing as well at is used to

    • @RoseKoneko
      @RoseKoneko 3 місяці тому +35

      At the time, they thought their other shows would drive people to their platform but Gossip Girl was widely panned and Pretty Little Liars didn’t get as much attention. They gambled on the wrong shows and are scrambling.

  • @o.mcneely4424
    @o.mcneely4424 3 місяці тому +872

    Seasmoke asking to keep the stray human was HILARIOUS.

    • @theloverlyladylo9158
      @theloverlyladylo9158 3 місяці тому +102

      Seasmoke: if not friend, why friend-colored?

    • @EmethMatthew
      @EmethMatthew 3 місяці тому +14

      The absolute best

    • @jaqjynx
      @jaqjynx 3 місяці тому +20

      Seasmoke calling dibs 😂

    • @brittany1049
      @brittany1049 3 місяці тому +27

      Seasmoke is a giant golden retriever confirmed 😂😂😂

    • @Tirya56
      @Tirya56 3 місяці тому +9

      And here our girl wants to act like he just snipped his collar and took him home. You can argue with Seasmoke about it, but you won't like it. You try taking him away, lady!

  • @Johury
    @Johury 3 місяці тому +781

    My theory about why the red sowing was made into a one time slaughter is that it was too hard to not make it an unintentional funny montage if they had them walk in one at a time.

    • @theloverlyladylo9158
      @theloverlyladylo9158 3 місяці тому +167

      They should have leaned in and made it a black comedy bit on purpose. Like, the blacks start off horrified and end up making bets.

    • @Johury
      @Johury 3 місяці тому +80

      @@theloverlyladylo9158 Personally I imagined a montage to Hall of the mountain king, timing fire breaths to the music but I might like your idea better.

    • @Tyr_Archalion
      @Tyr_Archalion 3 місяці тому +103

      Unironically, I think it's part of the show's whitewashing of Rhaenyra. It's easier to pass off one big massacre as a mistake that got out of hand.
      It would be much harder to reconcile her desire to save lives and protect the common people with her watching some poor commoner get cooked alive and eaten and then just saying "Whatever, send in the next one" fifty+ times.

    • @berserk4souls
      @berserk4souls 3 місяці тому +64

      @@Tyr_Archalionfunny enough I thought this was a great scene showing her edge that she has in the books. She needs dragonriders and she’s getting one until they’re all dead. That was ice cold of her to lock them in there and have her own guards block them.

    • @Iamthatis137
      @Iamthatis137 3 місяці тому +3

      It was! It was hilarious! I didn’t want to laugh as much as I did…. 😅🤣😭

  • @RabidAnti-Dentite
    @RabidAnti-Dentite 3 місяці тому +269

    23:47 Not to mention that Aegon II didn’t want the crown either. As we saw last season, he was basically trying to run away after hearing his father was dead and begged Aemond to let him flee to Essos. He sulked while on the way to his coronation because he knew he was never meant for the crown as Viserys always said Rhaenyra was the heir. So technically, by the show’s own logic, Aegon is just as good of a ruler as Viserys and Rhaenyra are because none of them wanted to rule

    • @dismurrart6648
      @dismurrart6648 3 місяці тому +27

      I hate that concept so much too and its part of why this is the only way i consume got

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 3 місяці тому +13

      "You're mah king!"
      "I dunt want it!"

    • @adriannethornheart8516
      @adriannethornheart8516 Місяць тому +2

      What’s hilarious is there is an Aegon who didn’t want the responsibility of ruling and just wanted the perks of the crown: Aegon IV nickanmed Aegon the *Unworthy* . Man couldn’t keep it in his pants and caused the Blackfyre rebellion lmao.

  • @dragoness7181
    @dragoness7181 3 місяці тому +349

    So amazing that George got to meet THE Dominic Noble! I hope I’m that lucky one day!🐉 (Also the chainmail neck tie is amazing!)

    • @hannahleigh6152
      @hannahleigh6152 3 місяці тому +9

      Your comment made me notice the tie lol

    • @Druzica18
      @Druzica18 3 місяці тому +8

      I wonder if George got his autograph?!! So exciting!!

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 3 місяці тому +5

      `:O lucky george

  • @snorpenbass4196
    @snorpenbass4196 3 місяці тому +397

    Scene: Kermit The Frog sits on a rock in one of his many swamps, plucking on a lyre. He begins to sing: "Why are there so many songs about Westeros..."

    • @kimberlyterasaki4843
      @kimberlyterasaki4843 3 місяці тому +35

      "And whose on the IRON THRONE."

    • @ThatSockmonkey
      @ThatSockmonkey 3 місяці тому +5

      As long as Dom DeLuise rows through screaming help! help! I'm there.

    • @inalasahl
      @inalasahl 3 місяці тому +3

      @@ThatSockmonkeyRIP Dom

    • @zacspivey1185
      @zacspivey1185 3 місяці тому +4

      Well, Kermit’s got to do something after killing a Baratheon

  • @jojotheswede8444
    @jojotheswede8444 3 місяці тому +147

    Everyone: war, drama, murder, dragons
    Daemon: the haunting at Harrenhall

    • @LauraGS564
      @LauraGS564 3 місяці тому +4

      he got an army tho

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Місяць тому +1

      That's the perfect example of beating a dead horse. Yeah we got it the first time writers, there's no need to keep repeating the same characterization for 7 episodes. You tell it once, or even twice for emphasis and we the audience already get it.

  • @ncblock87
    @ncblock87 3 місяці тому +94

    14:05 Mysaria: Champion of the common people, doesn't speak out against Rhaenyra during the mass murder of commoners in the Sowing.

  • @MrMatsudi
    @MrMatsudi 3 місяці тому +226

    The Tully scene with them playing cards while he bangs on the door and screams about women being in charge had me in stitches.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +16

      I love Ser Simon and his hobbits.

    • @margaretschaufele6502
      @margaretschaufele6502 3 місяці тому +22

      Considering the upcoming presidential election, it hit right on the nose. Also love the two Tully's just playing cards and doing their best to pretend they can't hear him.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Місяць тому

      Realistic depiction of Angry Virgins.

  • @robertrappaport3610
    @robertrappaport3610 3 місяці тому +744

    I’d just like to add that the writer’s guild was freaking RIGHT to strike. It’s okay to be frustrated that our favorite shows get jostled, but production companies have been screwing writers and making things worse for years.
    Especially given the broad dumb ways that companies wanted to start using AI, we’re actually lucky the writers and actors strikes worked as well as they did.

    • @AerysIIFirstofhisname
      @AerysIIFirstofhisname 3 місяці тому +17

      Nah they shouldn’t it’s just a skill issue.

    • @robertrappaport3610
      @robertrappaport3610 3 місяці тому +84

      @@AerysIIFirstofhisname What an appropriate name you have considering an opinion indicating either a shitpost or a mouth breather.

    • @hannahleigh6152
      @hannahleigh6152 3 місяці тому

      ​@@robertrappaport3610I don't think they're breathing at all. They're practically brainless.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@robertrappaport3610 If AI shows are trash, then writers will get valued more anyway. This kind of luddite mindset has been seen across human history, and you can't stop the advance of technology.

    • @AerysIIFirstofhisname
      @AerysIIFirstofhisname 3 місяці тому +12

      @@robertrappaport3610 Writers like David and Dan should be fined though.

  • @KakiOlsenCreative
    @KakiOlsenCreative 3 місяці тому +139

    34:49 you missed the “this meeting could have been a raven” joke.

  • @thomaswillard6267
    @thomaswillard6267 3 місяці тому +431

    We got S2 Lost in Adaptation before we got Ep8 of Dragontime. 😂

    • @sillylilly714
      @sillylilly714 3 місяці тому +72

      they probably are still talking about it

    • @signeaarejrgensen61
      @signeaarejrgensen61 3 місяці тому +17

      ​@@sillylilly714 Probably discussing yoghurt😊

    • @TaeSunWoo
      @TaeSunWoo 3 місяці тому +6

      And I’m not getting nebula to watch it early 😂

    • @thomaswillard6267
      @thomaswillard6267 3 місяці тому +26

      ​@@TaeSunWooNebula doesn't get it early, Nebula gets the full video whereas UA-cam gets the edited version
      Combined with the 22hr "Fake Jon Snow" supercut with commentary, and the other content totallong over 60+hrs of Dragon-show adjacent content, it's worth the $7 for a single month then drop it until next year.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@sillylilly714
      They've let themselves down.
      They've let everyone down.
      As Gandalf (played by Charlie Hopkinson) would say, it's unwise to study the arts of The GRRM even to critique him.

  • @randomgirl2282
    @randomgirl2282 3 місяці тому +40

    I find cutting Nettles the only “unforgivable” change the show could make. Thematically, she is definitely needed within the story and Rhaena has an entirely different character arc that I feel potentially didn’t appeal to the Writers due to how much it is based on soft power so maybe they did not want what would seem like a repeat or a duplicate of Alicent’s arc.
    Still though, I’m hoping that Nettles shows up.

  • @bookaddict9591
    @bookaddict9591 3 місяці тому +90

    10 years 😲 seriously you should be extremely proud of yourself, this channel is a goldmine of everything i love and as long as your able and willing? I hope it never ends 💕

    • @joelnotsure2871
      @joelnotsure2871 3 місяці тому +1

      I love the channel. But I despair of ever getting used to the nail polish.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 3 місяці тому +7

      @@joelnotsure2871 What an astronomically insignificant thing to be bothered by.

  • @cathsaigh2197
    @cathsaigh2197 3 місяці тому +24

    On Winds I moved straight from "patiently waiting" to "stopped caring".

  • @teawrecks1243
    @teawrecks1243 3 місяці тому +122

    Given how universally despised Game of Thrones Season 8 was...the least they could do was cut back on the references and connections to the original GOT.
    It's hard to take the Daenerys prophecy seriously knowing that stupid things like Arya taking out the Night King and Rhaegal getting merked for shock value are actual things that happened, or rather will happen.

  • @S1apShoes
    @S1apShoes 3 місяці тому +44

    I for one, loved the saga of daemon tripping on shrooms supplied by a Scottish goth girl in a haunted hotel for 6 episodes. Very relatable.

    • @ginao6810
      @ginao6810 Місяць тому

      lol I get you. But should GOT stories be relatable?

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Місяць тому

      It doesn't help that the witch was a really terrible actress. I roll my eyes every time she delivers her dialogue. Same with Mysaria. I think the acting quality of this show across the board is several tiers below the acting in GoT.

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 3 місяці тому +317

    Aemond's actor needs to be an elf in the next lord of the rings show

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +24

      He can play both the sons of Elrond.

    • @defiantaichi
      @defiantaichi 3 місяці тому +23

      He needs to be an elf in a new lotr show cause rings of power is a hot mess.

    • @irena4545
      @irena4545 3 місяці тому +18

      Fëanor had seven sons, so any would be a great pick, though my personal preference is Celegorm, the silver hair really suits him ;-)

    • @senister14
      @senister14 3 місяці тому +13

      Guy has talent.

    • @poop696969poop
      @poop696969poop 3 місяці тому

      Feanor, the naughty Elf

  • @poenpotzu2865
    @poenpotzu2865 3 місяці тому +115

    As much as I like Alicent having more nuance than wicked stepmother. However, i feel stripping away all agency and becomeing more passive made her feel more bland. Hopefully future seasons will show some tragic conflict between Alicent and Rhaenyra.

    • @elektraeriseros
      @elektraeriseros 3 місяці тому +17

      I feel you and mostly agree, but I think the scene this season where she realized exactly how little power and influence she has on the council (and circumstances) she helped create was a very nice way to show this
      Edit: "this" being her lack of agency and the consequences of trying to inhibit someone else's agency

    • @ciamciaramcia99
      @ciamciaramcia99 3 місяці тому +44

      At first I liked the changes to her character, but honestly after S2 I'd rather Alicent be a stereotype of wicked stepmother than a stereotype of passive, weak willed, incompetent woman easilly swayed by her emotions.

    • @sammykent5752
      @sammykent5752 3 місяці тому

      ​@@elektraeriserosso you still like her character after the final episode?

    • @bjornk14
      @bjornk14 3 місяці тому +3

      I mean, if it wasnt for the golden dragon on green, Alicents hearaldry should have a face eating leopard, seeing as she spends this season getting her faced gnawed off by the ones she put in power. She only had as much power as the ones around her, and especially her now dead husband, allowed her to have. And since she didnt have it in her (or ispart of the culture with midwives and such) to actually bond with babies she had after (possibly) sex with less than enthusiastic concent, she didnt see what they were growing up to be. She was more focused on her jelousy of the "free" and unchaste heir to the thrown. At the end shes on her rock bottom, starting to find it in her to climb up and build something for the future again with her childhood friend.
      She'll get back to a kings landing without Aegon tho, the one thing she promised Rhynaera to end the war, so when she turns up next season to Alicent claiming to have "lost" her son, thats not gonna go down well.

    • @ToddHoward76
      @ToddHoward76 3 місяці тому +16

      They seem chronically incapable of holding the female character to account. I’m not even being sexist, if you track the male characters and their actions they almost always get their comeuppance or have to acknowledge their faults in some way. This ironically makes them more interesting.
      I would probably not even have this opinion if it weren’t for Rhaenys. No one ever brings up the fact that she killed all those civilians in season 1 episode 9. Yet she constantly acts like she is atop the moral high horse and chastises those around her for being callous, with much of her dialog in the first season dedicated to pointing out how men are violent and seek conflict when in power. Her callous murder of likely hundreds of innocent civilians while also proclaiming the war “wasn’t hers to start” and that she “did not want to harm a mother” (in reference to Alicent) come off as tone deaf and hypocritical and indicate a lack of awareness on the writers part.
      This lack of accountability extends to enough of the other female characters to be noticeable and irritating. Towards the end of the season Alicent essentially has all power and accountability removed from her and she contradicts one of her only consistent character traits at the last minute for pretty much no reason other than she was angry that she didn’t have more power. She betrays her children, who while she was a poor mother too she clearly loved them and did a lot in order to advance them. She just abandons that because the big mean men around her wouldn’t listen to her and make her regent (which as they point out would be a blunder as it undermines their positions and jeopardizes their standings with their allies). All of this serves to make her less interesting, less motivated, and contradictory.
      Rhaenera was almost incessantly slow to act, dismissive, and way too soft this season. She has suffered through the death of two children, both effectively at the hands of the Greens, yet she is seeking peace to the point of absurdity. This especially contrasts with season one where she was clearly being set up to be furious at the death of Luke and was consistently shown to be brash, somewhat callous, and confident in her position as rightful queen. This season she seems to entirely mellow out, forgets the slights against her, and constantly sues for peace to the point of inaction and absurdity. This is in contrast to the power hungry and ruthless Greens under Aemond and Aegon. I would forgive this if it was set up a little better, but she has none of the cruel qualities as described in the book which made her more interesting and involved. Every decision which can be considered morally bad in any way is almost always the fault of someone else or was done behind her back. The only real exception was the red sowing which felt more in line with her character in season one.
      All of this serves to make the female character less interesting as they are less involved with the intrigues and changes occurring around them. They are almost always reacting to the actions of others and chastising them for not seeking peace, even if they have as much reason as the men around them to be angry and seeking conflict. This contrasts heavily to the men as their bad qualities have often been increased compared to their book counterparts and their are held to task appropriately either through facing the consequences for their actions or having to develop to overcome their flaws. This makes the men ironically more interesting to watch as they feel more consistent and engaging as they actually move the plot forward and make big decisions which will change the course of the entire war.

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 3 місяці тому +92

    You really feel the two missing episodes. There was a REASON ten episodes was chosen for each season. They could have split season two into two parts to deal with the strike issues. That opening scene at the ice wall felt like a purposfully done slap in the face given how HBO ended that entire plotline with a giant wedontcare.

    • @sushmitaraodesaraju6330
      @sushmitaraodesaraju6330 3 місяці тому +20

      Yeah, the sequence at the Wall, Daemon's visions of the White Walkers and Dany all just managed to piss me off because of how they ended in GoT. And them using Jon's music everytime they show the Starks on screen. Like you already did my boy dirty, why are you hellbent on reminding us of it again?

    • @maegor-targaryen
      @maegor-targaryen 3 місяці тому +10

      @@sushmitaraodesaraju6330 That’s the Winterfell and Ned’s theme. In GoT, it plays for the first time when we see the castle. It later became the Stark theme, not Jon’s theme.

    • @thirdcoinedge
      @thirdcoinedge 3 місяці тому +7

      It's sad because the season was clearly setting up some kind of big one-two end of season climax for the last couple episodes, like how GOT S6 had Battle of the Bastards & Winds of Winter at the ending. That season was also criticized for being somewhat meandering while having an acclaimed episode in the middle of the season (The Door for S6, The Red Dragon and the Gold for HOTD), but the last two episodes really won everyone over. I was actually enjoying the show, even all the parts people were having problems with, so it sucks that we have to wait another two years to have the climax. But also, Breaking Bad S1 suffered the same thing (the first 2 episodes of S2 were meant to be part of season 1, but then the writer's strike of 2008 happened), so it's not like this hasn't happened before, this just has the unfortunate circumstance of being the second season of an already-acclaimed show with high expectations in place.

  • @NQR-9000
    @NQR-9000 3 місяці тому +27

    21:15 Well, killing common people wasn't always without consequence in medieval time. Between 1275 and 1280, the two now Belgian cities of Namur and Liege fought a five years war that was started because of the unfair killing of a non-noble guy who had stolen a single cow and was hanged while returning it while he was peomised he would be pardoned... This war is now know as "The war of the cow" 😅

  • @The-bi5ry
    @The-bi5ry 3 місяці тому +20

    I actually found the scene where Daemon mentions the prophecy and Rhaenyra's answer of "you sound like Viserys" rather than acknowledging he's right, to mean that they had essentially switched roles. Daemon is now fighting for something more than the throne, and Rhaenyra has come too far that attaining the throne becomes her sole ambition, not for the prophecy but for the power.

  • @ravendelacour1917
    @ravendelacour1917 3 місяці тому +25

    Congrats on your ten year anniversary. I've been following since the beginning and your lovely voice and content has helped me get through this apocalyptic decade.

  • @kateb2643
    @kateb2643 3 місяці тому +351

    Queer woman here. Gaydar would not have stopped that kiss from feeling like it came out of nowhere. I love seeing myself represented on screen, but not at the cost of immersion and good storytelling.

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 3 місяці тому +141

      wouldve been more fitting and even understandable had it not been preceded by trauma dumping about getting raped and impregnated by her father

    • @ojroche5217
      @ojroche5217 3 місяці тому +41

      ⁠@@ShadeStormXDDidn’t like that scene for that very reason lol it wasn’t even intimate and it had no lead up. If they were going to do it at all, it should’ve been saved for another, more fitting time.

    • @TheDawnofVanlife
      @TheDawnofVanlife 3 місяці тому +45

      i didn’t see it as hyper romantic. People do come together for all kinds of weird reasons, especially feeling understood and like they’ve found a sole confidant who “gets” them.
      It was maybe a little trauma bonding, but there are way worse things then that between GoT and house of the dragon. These aren’t characters with high morals in general and honestly (I am a queer woman) the kiss made total sense to me for these characters as presented on screen. We haven’t seen them show much deeper interest since that interrupted moment if I recall.
      I find it interesting this seems to bother some folks more than all the incest and other inappropriate relationships. What was any more or less inappropriate in this scene then any other questionable relationship in the series. An uncle taking his underage niece out of the castle for questionable reasons is fine, but two isolated women finding solace in a trauma bonding kiss doesn’t work? As the characters exist in the HBO series, it made total sense to me.
      Also it was the actresses themselves who felt like this is what there characters would do, it wasn’t in the original script. And the team agreed so they shot the kiss. It wasn’t some representation virtue signal.

    • @lamo1724
      @lamo1724 3 місяці тому +8

      Agreed. What was called for in that moment was a demonstration of sincerity. Something that suggests, "I am here for you because I care". Simples.
      Putting in the unscripted kiss in there just got everyone talking about the show...seems a bit cheap xxx

    • @tinaye8638
      @tinaye8638 3 місяці тому +11

      And a relationship between them is implied in the books, they should've just wrote it in and kept it in.. It also feels strange because it's never addressed again

  • @carlrood4457
    @carlrood4457 3 місяці тому +58

    I wouldn't call the naming practices "unimaginative", but an attempt to be symbolic. After all Great Britain/UK had six different King Georges in only a 200 year period, and nearly one third of those years were ruled by Queen Victoria.

    • @everburn
      @everburn 3 місяці тому +4

      He was being coy

    • @Al4___
      @Al4___ 3 місяці тому +8

      France had like 20 Louises and 10 Charleses

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Al4___ Sweden is on its 16:th Carl. lol
      I think OP is entirely correct.

    • @KittyOfChess
      @KittyOfChess 3 місяці тому +2

      Don't forget all the Henrys from the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

    • @coffeewolfproductions9113
      @coffeewolfproductions9113 3 місяці тому +3

      Okay, that just means the British royal family very unimaginative with their naming conventions.

  • @yourfake915
    @yourfake915 3 місяці тому +149

    I hate how the marketing for the show was like Green vs blacks, pick a side and then said, nah the blacks are the good guys.

    • @ithemba
      @ithemba 3 місяці тому +15

      it's trying to be a tragedy, where ultimately no one is good or bad and no one wins. which makes sense with what is about to come in the following seasons.

    • @vadalia3860
      @vadalia3860 3 місяці тому +28

      Look, I'm Team Black but they've been very deliberate about trying to balance the sides as much as possible. They had Daemon outright murder his first wife, which he likely didn't actually do in the books, and made Luc's murder instead into a schoolyard bullying-esque accident. Rhaenyra's betrothal of Jace and Luc to Baela and Rhaena happened in the books when they were all toddlers, showing right away that she intending to marry Velaryon blood back into the line of both the heir to Driftmark and the Iron Throne (likely to make it up to the Velaryons for the lack of Velaryon blood in her eldest sons) but in the show it came much later, making it look like she intended to fully steal away at least Driftmark from the Velaryon bloodline. Alicent, instead of being a power-hungry evil adult stepmother, is both brainwashed by her father from the time she's a 15 year old bride into thinking her children's lives are forfeit if Rhaenyra inherits and also as an adult trying to do what she (convinced herself to) thinks was what Viserys wanted. However, nothing they introduce into the narrative can make up for the fact that the only reason there is a succession crisis at all is because Rhaenyra is a woman and Westeros is a sexist place, which is always going to bias a modern audience to her side. The entire conflict is centered around an injustice being done to Rhaenyra because of her gender & even those who otherwise sympathize with the greens usually recognize that.

    • @berserk4souls
      @berserk4souls 3 місяці тому +27

      @@vadalia3860the balance feels a little too late especially if you’ve read Fire and Blood. Rhaneyra is so much more flawed and interesting in the book. It’s also why Aegon became a clear fan favorite, they are doing his character arc from the book, warts and all on full display.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@berserk4soulsNot so much, they didn't show him sleeping with a 12 year old but they did add some stuff than they did last season.

    • @iMajoraGaming
      @iMajoraGaming 3 місяці тому

      ​@@berserk4souls people like aegon because he's such a hot-mess and does things like call himself the draconic phallus lmao

  • @SuperBoxcat
    @SuperBoxcat 3 місяці тому +311

    I was in the "Leave George alone" camp for the first decade. Now that we are in the second decade you still shouldn't harass him, but he's obviously not putting full focus on it.

    • @bece00
      @bece00 3 місяці тому +54

      Man he is helping produce TV shows and he's more popular than he's ever been. Give the guy a break he doesn't owe yall anything

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +30

      ​@@bece00
      Absolutely.
      The only one who'll suffer if he doesn't finish his magnum opus is him.

    • @vadalia3860
      @vadalia3860 3 місяці тому +48

      @@bece00 I think that was that commenter's point- he shouldn't be producing TV shows vs instead sitting down & actually finishing the first thing he started. Like how my parents used to make sure I'd finished dinner before I got dessert.

    • @castironpan7967
      @castironpan7967 3 місяці тому +18

      I'm more in the camp of 'someone else already figured it out please let us know how it ends. I don't care about spoilers anymore.'

    • @bece00
      @bece00 3 місяці тому +24

      @@vadalia3860 it's crazy to me that his FANS are the ones talking about him like this. Speaking as like he's a petulant child.

  • @m.b.7560
    @m.b.7560 3 місяці тому +35

    As someone that started watching around the time of the... marathon that shall not be named was starting, its mind blowing to me how far you've come dom

    • @margaretschaufele6502
      @margaretschaufele6502 3 місяці тому +2

      Me too. That marathon was what brought me to this channel. Also, I was just pleased that someone felt the same way about those films (uuuuuuggggghhhhhhh)

  • @George-Hawthorne
    @George-Hawthorne 3 місяці тому +178

    I actually like that they made Hugh a more noble person here since it would explain why Vermithor chose him to be his rider considering who his previous rider was.

    • @vadalia3860
      @vadalia3860 3 місяці тому

      Eh, Jae's a piece of shit so not sure that actually tracks. Then again, that was mostly towards his female relatives & Hugh's already got one dead daughter & a wife he seems constantly in conflict with so... par for the course, I guess...

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +9

      That is somehow assuming that a dragon could pick up who a person is, when in the show it looks to be that Hugh was the only one who stood up to him. Akin to Dany on the books to Drogon.

    • @George-Hawthorne
      @George-Hawthorne 3 місяці тому +34

      @@Ashbrash1998 Not only did he stand up to him, but he willingly sacrificed himself to save a total stranger. It is said that dragons are intelligent and just how Dogs can judge character It isn't a far stretch to assume dragons are capable of the same. If you read the book, it always struck me as odd that the Dragon of the Conciliator would choose someone like Hugh.

    • @herbertvonbismarck8303
      @herbertvonbismarck8303 3 місяці тому +5

      So uh this is going to be awkward when his eventual spoiler plot point comes up

    • @Code_Dee
      @Code_Dee 3 місяці тому +18

      Safe to assume the way Hugh was presented in the book is because of anti-commoner bias combined with hindsight bias given some of the...well...incoming warcrimes.

  • @ncblock87
    @ncblock87 3 місяці тому +20

    Dom, thank you for bringing up how much they actually covered in season 1 vs season 2. I made a reddit post about a week ago pointing this out. I wanted to find out how much plot was actually portrayed in Season 2, so I listened to the audiobook and started from when Luke dies and when the sowing was complete.
    It took them 2 years and 8 episodes to turn 50 minutes of Fire and Blood into a whole season...
    For comparison to Season 1, at the start of the Great Council to when Luke dies, it took them 10 episodes for 173 minutes of content.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +4

      They've shifted from sprint to amble in telling this story.
      I prefer amble.

    • @ncblock87
      @ncblock87 3 місяці тому +5

      @@alanpennie8013 The time for amble was during Season 1, not after the murder of children.

    • @Male_Ficent
      @Male_Ficent 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ncblock87 true.

    • @everburn
      @everburn 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@alanpennie8013and now they've only got what? 16 episodes to tell the whole story.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому

      @@everburn
      If viewer numbers hold up they'll probably give us a Cregan miniseries as a pendant.

  • @keittykit
    @keittykit 2 місяці тому +2

    Seasmoke: Can I keep him?
    Syrax: We have humans at home.
    Seasmoke: I don't like those! I want this one!

  • @carlrood4457
    @carlrood4457 3 місяці тому +42

    Thank you for putting doubt on the whole "Laenor has to be dead" argument. I've been pointing this stuff out on various comment pages.

  • @vampirefrompluto9788
    @vampirefrompluto9788 3 місяці тому +10

    Honestly, at this point I think if Winds of Winter/Dream of Spring do come out then it will be after GRRM has passed. I think he is scared (rightfully so) of the backlash that will inevitably come from his creative choices. D&D had an outline from GRRM for post finished books so at least a few things from the later seasons of GoT will probably be in the books.

  • @Isabella-lm8ke
    @Isabella-lm8ke 3 місяці тому +6

    I have never read/watched Game of Thrones or House of Dragon but my grandmother lived in Snowdonia, the region of Wales where most of the hilly landscape scenes were shot. My family was there last year when we were barred from entering certain parts of the park because they were filming something. We finally got one person working on it to admit that is was House of Dragon. I don’t have HBO so I was very excited when Dom released this video so I could see some of the beloved scenery from my child hood (with added dragons).

  • @awhartig5847
    @awhartig5847 3 місяці тому +55

    The changes/expansion to the characters: Alys Rivers, Ser Simon Strong, Ulf the White, Hugh Hammer, Alyn & Addam of Hull & Helena Targaryen were all fantastic. It elevated the story to meet/get better acquainted with them. I'm NOT happy about the erasure of Nettles, was really looking forward to seeing her & learning her story. Overall I liked this season, but it definitely felt unfinished. I believe the entire series can be brilliant, and I too am willing to wait.
    Happy Anniversary Dom! May you continue to be pleasantly surprised by good fortune 🎉

    • @ShannonCarter55
      @ShannonCarter55 3 місяці тому +2

      Who's to say that Nettles wasn't Rhaena all along? fire and blood was written as a history book by someone who lived afterwards and based on a septon, a Maester and a hypers*xual fool on their accounts.

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 3 місяці тому +12

      @@ShannonCarter55 That makes about as much sense as the maesters getting Alicent's age wrong, or that they made up an entire royal prince, Maelor... There are some definite changes to the source material. People would recognize Rhaena... Plus, in the book Rhaena is not brown, she's white, so unless Rhaena was doing black face (???) to disguise herself, Nettles would have clearly not been the princess. _Also_ Rhaena was with Lady Jeyne Arryn the entire time in the Vale, making plenty of public appearances. Knights jousted for her favor, singers sang songs for her... And, crucially, her dragon Morning hatched for her. So unless this was a Padme's handmaid situation (and her handmaid happened to have a dragon hatch for her, and Rhaena's sister Baela never realized she was an impostor?) Rhaena could not have been Nettles.
      Unless... Rhaena is secretly a skinchanger and Hodored a poor peasant girl so she could claim a dragon without risking herself, but once her own dragon hatched for her she had no further need of the girl... and so she discreetly disposed of her in the Vale, everyone none the wiser. Rhaena the Three Eyed Dragon!

  • @joeevans5770
    @joeevans5770 3 місяці тому +31

    That GEORGE killed me CANT I GUY HAVE FUN WITH HIS WORLD BUILDING DOM

  • @AlextheSuperfly
    @AlextheSuperfly 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank goodness! A commentator who both acknowledges the 'history book' device in the original book, AND realises and fully understands what that means for comparing book/show canon!! I had to give up my usual pop culture commentators for HOTD 'cos their lack of understanding was so infuriating. Thankyou Dom! ❤️

  • @Nick-4K
    @Nick-4K 3 місяці тому +58

    The way those dragons talked to eachother is now canon

  • @DeviWolf22
    @DeviWolf22 3 місяці тому +58

    I do not understand how we only spent 1 episode in the North. There were so many theories - Jace and Cregan hooking up, Jace secretly marrying Sara Snow, Jace leaving behind a pregnant half sister to Cregan, Jace leaving dragon eggs in Winterfell - and we saw none of it. I was so disappointed I don't think I'll ever get it

    • @alexanderforbes1452
      @alexanderforbes1452 3 місяці тому +16

      In fairness, a lot of the theories surrounding that dynamic were basically invented by the fans. Like, they didn't set most of that up, people just got carried away with their own imaginings.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +3

      I was disappointed too.
      Given how padded the season was I think we should have spent a bit more time oop North.
      I would have been happy to spend less time in Dragonstone, Driftmark and The Vale.

    • @Ironcorgi2
      @Ironcorgi2 3 місяці тому +3

      I’m hoping given the battle of the gullets consequences, they will have a flashback of jaces time at winterfell. Cause it’s kind of important that cregan makes this bond with Jace.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +9

      ​@@alexanderforbes1452I mean the dynamic did have set up from the books. Fans carried ot farther sure, but the Sara Snow stuff and Eggs in Winterfell came from the books.

  • @AK-tr6lo
    @AK-tr6lo 3 місяці тому +89

    I’ve somehow never noticed that Aemond and Daemon are spelled using the same letters in almost the same order.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +5

      I was gonna say they're never in the same scene but I don't think that's *quite* true.

    • @BearlyAwake13
      @BearlyAwake13 3 місяці тому +9

      Super glad I wasn't the only one to not have noticed this! Being so caught off guard did make seeing Dom put it on screen funnier though

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia 3 місяці тому +6

      I just facepalmed. How did I not see that 😂

    • @thezerowulf2046
      @thezerowulf2046 2 місяці тому +3

      Wait till you realize that Aemond has Viseynas dragon while Daemon has her sword.

  • @gana511
    @gana511 3 місяці тому +4

    The joke you with the dragon wanting to keep a human he found on the beach 😂 hilarious

  • @amourtabb7859
    @amourtabb7859 3 місяці тому +18

    Oscar and Simon are unironically my favorite characters in this show😂

  • @tipulsar85
    @tipulsar85 3 місяці тому +4

    Cheers, Dominic. You deserve some praise for doing this for a decade.

  • @rroland9661
    @rroland9661 3 місяці тому +9

    Thanks for providing us with content for ten years.

  • @KakiOlsenCreative
    @KakiOlsenCreative 3 місяці тому +35

    12:59 everyone sucked is the style of GRRM and I love his work for it.

  • @Ravuun
    @Ravuun 3 місяці тому +199

    Chainmail...necktie?! Neat

    • @Tillyard86
      @Tillyard86 3 місяці тому +1

      Do you think Will Ferrell invented that one too?

    • @tylershadlow5792
      @tylershadlow5792 3 місяці тому

      Hey man that's mean

    • @Ravuun
      @Ravuun 2 місяці тому

      @@tylershadlow5792 Huh? No sarcasm intended, I really like it

  • @adamaris1760
    @adamaris1760 3 місяці тому +2

    congrats on a decade of being professionally pedantic Dom! I don't know how long I've been watching, a few years at least, but I always find your commentary to be very interesting, and sometimes have then found things that I wouldn't otherwise watch through your videos.

  • @shia2734
    @shia2734 3 місяці тому +140

    My biggest gripe with this season is that, for most of it, Lucerys's, Visenya's and Jaehaerys's deaths seem to have been for absolutely damn nothing.
    No one even mentions poor Visenya, Luke is mostly forgotten save for a literal couple of times, and Jaehaerys is mourned for a grand total of one episode before everyone forgets about him.
    I'm sorry, it's an absolute character assassination for Rhaenyra to not be trying to chew Team Green's heads off over her children.

    • @sammykent5752
      @sammykent5752 3 місяці тому +12

      THIS!!! So much THIS!!!!

    • @mackenziesemple9105
      @mackenziesemple9105 3 місяці тому +10

      THIS!!! THANK YOU!!

    • @Jlpro_1
      @Jlpro_1 3 місяці тому +3

      Fr what a mess!!! 🤦‍♂️

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 3 місяці тому +6

      I'm certain they'll have Rhaenyra seeing red after the Gullet, it's the only thing that makes sense after putting so much emphasis on Rhaenyra's restraint this season. In the book, she was completely indisposed because of her grief and Jace had to take over, so I understand why they'd want to change that (if you think Daemon's storyline was bad, imagine Rhaenyra just laying in bed all day crying for the entire season), but in order for the war to not be over in an episode they needed Rhaenyra to not want to use her dragons.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +9

      ​@@michaelhenry3234She also could be indisposed because of the fact she JUST had a traumatic labor amd birth if a stillborn dragon like baby.

  • @sophie9419
    @sophie9419 3 місяці тому +21

    I'm kinda sad they didn't leave in elmo/Kermit. Be a nice bit of levity 😂

    • @Ironcorgi2
      @Ironcorgi2 3 місяці тому +3

      Ya cause while yes they are named after muppets those names were actually pretty common before they were known as muppets

    • @alisaurus4224
      @alisaurus4224 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Ironcorgi2GRRM absolutely named the family after Muppets as an Easter egg, probably never thinking he’d have to make any of them serious characters

  • @nomisunrider6472
    @nomisunrider6472 3 місяці тому +96

    Honestly it doesn’t surprise me that history wrote Daemon as being immune to Alys’ charms because the history wrote her as a generic sexy witch whose only REAL power was her ability to seduce men into giving her what she wanted. The idea that Alys might have power over a man without sleeping with him just didn’t compute to the misogynistic Westerosi mind.

    • @thezerowulf2046
      @thezerowulf2046 2 місяці тому +1

      Or Sara Hess knew Daemon was to popular and wanted to neuter him in the next season.

    • @nomisunrider6472
      @nomisunrider6472 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thezerowulf2046 Character development and maturing as a person is “neutering” now?

  • @escritora84
    @escritora84 3 місяці тому +2

    Congrats on 10 years!! Your channel has been one of my favorites for years, and I appreciate how much detail you put into making your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @kathedgecoth4453
    @kathedgecoth4453 3 місяці тому +3

    Happy 10 year anniversary, Dom! I haven't been here for the whole journey, but I have been highly entertained the whole time I've been here. Here's to many more years!

  • @jedisalamander2457
    @jedisalamander2457 3 місяці тому +70

    Mr Noble, you should consider a Lost in Adaptation for The Expanse/Leviathan Wakes

    • @insomniacg
      @insomniacg 3 місяці тому +5

      That's a great suggestion - it's broad strokes are faithful and there's a lot that can be said about where it's season/book splits are offset, but you have some occasional stuff that looks bizarre on paper like a bunch of different characters becoming Camina Drummer just because Cara Gee is *that* good

    • @alisaurus4224
      @alisaurus4224 3 місяці тому

      YESSSS

    • @TheSpearkan
      @TheSpearkan 3 місяці тому +4

      Agreed, it's a great book and TV series and has the rare case where the book writers used the show to improve on some elements from the source material.

    • @NadarCosainAmber
      @NadarCosainAmber 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes! I was just checking if The Dom had already covered them

  • @idab9958
    @idab9958 3 місяці тому +12

    It's bizarre how season one and season two suffer from polar opposite pacing issues - season one speedran through 25 years worth of plot while season two had a lot of wheel-spinning and not enough plot. My personal conspiracy theory as to why the heck it was written that way is that there was a mandate from HBO that season one had to have a dragon battle, so they had to skip ahead to Vhagar eating Luke to get it greenlit.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +1

      Season one should so obviously have been two seasons.

    • @dejajade6726
      @dejajade6726 2 місяці тому

      A problem also is that they wanted the show to be 4 seasons, when it clearly should've been 3. Or maybe if they had paced season 1 way better the 4 seasons could've worked.

  • @nutmegandspice91
    @nutmegandspice91 3 місяці тому +3

    Wow, congratulations on ten years! Thank you for all the laughs, book recommendations, and entertainment! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @kevinlockhart4393
    @kevinlockhart4393 3 місяці тому +8

    Your season 1 video gets a rewatch from me like once a month dude. Needless to say, I am very excited for this.

  • @CULeeisMe
    @CULeeisMe 3 місяці тому +12

    10 YEARS!!! That's amazing!!! Congratulations! 🎉🎉

  • @shockmesane4158
    @shockmesane4158 3 місяці тому +7

    The Otto being in a cage thing was by far the weirdest part of the season.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +5

      It's presumably intended to be relevant to the next season.
      Perhaps Aemond will track him down.

  • @lucinda3964
    @lucinda3964 3 місяці тому +27

    I really like to think that Seasmoke picked up Addam because he smelled/looked so much like Laenor and had a similar personality to him as well. And Laenor may not be dead, but he's dead to Seasmoke and this little guy is close enough.

  • @fuzzyaziraphale4228
    @fuzzyaziraphale4228 3 місяці тому +7

    George sounds like a really great person especially with him hosting a dinner for all of the disqualified nominees from the 2023 Worldcon at this year's Worldon.

  • @BoredLittleLady
    @BoredLittleLady 3 місяці тому +2

    10 years! 🎉 Watching, sometimes rewatching, your videos has been a pleasure. Your content is informative and entertaining, and the accent helps too. 😊

  • @Piti_Pingu
    @Piti_Pingu 3 місяці тому +6

    I loved the bit with the dragon asking to keep the homan he found T.T

  • @KittyOfChess
    @KittyOfChess 3 місяці тому +30

    Here’s the thing, the conflict is not over whether women are included equal in succession, because Team Black had made it obvious that Rhaenyra is a one generation exception. She herself said Jace and Baela’s first born son will rule after her. The real question is whether the King’s word supersedes law. If the King can go against laws because he is the law. And honestly, rulers with absolute power who aren’t beholden to the law they expect their subjects to follow are always terrible.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +3

      It's also not just a king thing, it's a Westeros thing. As Grrm stated: Westeros isn't ruled by laws it's by men. The lord's prefer it that way and even some have chosen an heir or laid rules for their wills. So for the Dance they had no law requiring male first no matter what, just a preference/tradition. Which for the Targaryen dynasty is unique, since they aren't Andals so they aren't beholden to their traditions. Jahaerys already set a standard that Targaryens are not like other men as dragonriders and were from Valyria. So they had different laws and traditions they are allowed to follow. As well as Jahaerys formally chose his heir when his first born son died, which was the second son instead of Aemon's child Rhaenys, who was next in line. Plus the main reason Jahaerys won the throne over his sister Rhaena and her daughters was because he had gathered more support while they were Maegor's hostages. And they weren't keen on women getting the crown either as well as Rhaena disliked King's Landing so she suggested Jahaerys. So both times wasn't based on an actual law like Queen's Alysanne's laws, but a blend of noble support and a person with more sway influencing it.

    • @iMajoraGaming
      @iMajoraGaming 3 місяці тому +5

      there *are* no laws. westeros doesn't have a constitution or a justinian code.
      it's a divine-right absolute monarchy, the king's word is not just law, it's infallible and sacred.
      there are no succession laws.
      they would not have held something like 4 great councils in 300 years to pick the next monarch if there were succession laws.
      there aren't even guidelines, or rules.
      it's borderline a divinity-cult given targaryen exceptionalism.
      the literal only time laws constrain a monarch are in a constitution.
      something which isn't even a theoretical concept to the world of asoiaf.

    • @Iruma366
      @Iruma366 3 місяці тому +12

      @@iMajoraGamingYou are completely wrong in a medieval society what amounts to law is an amalgamation of tradition, custom and precedence. You also have to take into account that the Targaryens are not ancient royalty who has ruled for thousands of years but, foreign invaders who rule by fear and force. That means there decisions will never be infallible because of what they are and how they came to power. The only thing that will allow them to do as they please is the force and violence they apply.

    • @Iruma366
      @Iruma366 3 місяці тому

      @@Ashbrash1998 Your argument can also be used in the reverse.

    • @MissRedZelda
      @MissRedZelda 3 місяці тому +1

      @@iMajoraGaming Truth be told, the series tends to go back and forth on whether Kings have absolute power and not. This is kind of my main critisism of the series as a whole, though I do understand it's fiction. Mind you, most of everything else is clear.
      Also, irl, fealty went both ways: Lords swore fealty to their King, but the King also swore fealty to the law, which was very clear that both parties were sworn to uphold their duties. It's actually a fascinating subject to look into.

  • @hugolouessard3914
    @hugolouessard3914 3 місяці тому +11

    I freaking loved the season ! With all the time jumps in S1 it was necessary to focus more on characters to really care about them. I mean, we barely knew Aegon, Aemond, Jace, Baela, etc.
    Yes I would have prefered having all the episodes but it was still very good

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +1

      Me too.
      It was nice to get to know these guys.
      Not to mention , Addam, Alyn, Helaena, Hugh, and Ulf.

  • @ElleVervain
    @ElleVervain 3 місяці тому +38

    Thx for defending GRRM. People really need to chill. And even if those 2 books NEVER get published... it's HIS book series. he can do whatever the heck he wants with it AND HIS LIFE :D

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 місяці тому +8

      Yeah. And just as its his life that he can do whatever he want, its everyone else's right to also harass him for it. That's what it means to live in a free society. He can shut off the internet if he wants, because none of ya'll can stop people from reminding him 24/7 about it.

    • @idawg7332
      @idawg7332 3 місяці тому +6

      He only has the life he does now because we bought those books and supported the shows. If he had told us back in 1996 that he’d never finish the series and the shows would turn to shit nobody would have bought them. He owes us

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@idawg7332 That's not how it works, you buy the books and watch the shows FOR the stuff. It's not a layaway plan or contract saying you are entitled to more stuff if tou stamp your feet hard enough.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@stephenjenkins7971Not really since harassment can be punishable by law. And harassing somebody because they aren't making something for you without a contract or explicit agreement isn't a good stance.

    • @iMajoraGaming
      @iMajoraGaming 3 місяці тому +3

      ​​@@Ashbrash1998 copout response
      typically if you make someone rich, and that someone insists that they're going to make something for the people that gave them the ability to live so lavishly, for a decade, one would expect it to be obvious that when that person fails to deliver, over and over again, that the people who were told they would get something *for a decade* would be less than thrilled by your repeated failure to speak the truth.
      people act like GRRM is too special and delicate to be held at his *own* word lmao

  • @JoeUchiha-gs5ru
    @JoeUchiha-gs5ru 3 місяці тому +3

    This has been very educational about the way and why writing was the way it was this season

  • @DragonFae16
    @DragonFae16 3 місяці тому +1

    The reason Martin takes so damn long writing his books is apparently because his method of writing is that he writes down every possible scenario and then picks the combinations he likes best. So he's basically writing 10 books just to get to the one he finds acceptable.

  • @CallMeCrazyCallMePoor
    @CallMeCrazyCallMePoor 3 місяці тому +6

    Warner Brothers is like the cat laying in the glass box. They don't even know if they have any money for your show until they either do or do not pay up.

  • @rachelrainbowphoenix
    @rachelrainbowphoenix 3 місяці тому +2

    The chain mail necktie fire! 🤩. Congrats on 10 years Dom. I think I have been watching you for 6ish of those years and I look forward to as many more as you like ♥

  • @3crowsinatrenchcoat
    @3crowsinatrenchcoat 3 місяці тому +41

    14:38 DREAMFYRE! thats heleanas dragon, Aegons good boy is Sunfyre. I revoke your nerd card

    • @Zapphoman
      @Zapphoman 3 місяці тому +5

      Thank you. Heard him say Dreamfyre and I was like "wait a tic"

  • @acfanboy1997
    @acfanboy1997 3 місяці тому +23

    I absolutely loathe the revelation of the white walkers and daenarys to daemon. The apparent importance that rhaenyra take the throne eliminates all the gray morality of both sides presented in the original book. Just like that stupid scene in season 1 where the white hart just happens upon rhaenyra, an endorsement by the gods that she is the rightful heir.

    • @KittyOfChess
      @KittyOfChess 3 місяці тому +13

      Exactly. Both sides were fighting for selfish reasons, but the show is making the Greens complete villains and Rhaenyra a saint.

    • @ciamciaramcia99
      @ciamciaramcia99 3 місяці тому +7

      Wasn't Criston "the Kingmaker" Cole there to spot the white hart at the same time as Rhaenyra? And it all did happen on Aegon's name day, so I guess the gods are as undecided as westerosi nobility.

    • @Brandon210-q4n
      @Brandon210-q4n 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ciamciaramcia99 You're flailing. The scene was stupid and clearly thrown in to make people pick a side.

    • @fabiolaliano8620
      @fabiolaliano8620 3 місяці тому

      the writers have said in interviews that the prophecies and signs in the show are meant to be manipulated and taken advantage of by those who know them so idk…….

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Місяць тому

      The writers missed the point of war. War is where rich people send poor people to die. This is supposed to be a selfish power grab from aristocratic families that drag the entire country into death and destruction. Making the leads more sympathetic and hesitant about war completely defeats the purpose of the story. I don't think the writers are aware of the historical events that GRRM is pulling from. It's a war of succession and a blood feud, that's all we need to be a great show.

  • @athas65
    @athas65 3 місяці тому +64

    I generally agree with your takes, with two caveats:
    1. I actually enjoyed most of the Daemon stuff.
    2. I read Rhaenyra's arc as being more complex than your description - while her motivation being influenced by the prophecy makes her seem a bit better than pure greed. As the season goes, her rethoric becomes more and more fanatic - "it was ordained," etc.
    I feel like this fanatisism is what's going to shape her future arc in line with some of the stuff that happens later in the book.

    • @sammykent5752
      @sammykent5752 3 місяці тому +1

      I don't share your optimism

    • @athas65
      @athas65 3 місяці тому +12

      @@sammykent5752 Ok, have fun I guess

    • @Brandon210-q4n
      @Brandon210-q4n 3 місяці тому +6

      She was painted as good and saintly all season; even the prophecy is meant to make us side with Rhaenyra over everyone else and give her an excuse for morally indefensible actions.
      Meanwhile the Greens are just "woMEn baD!"

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 3 місяці тому +11

      @@Brandon210-q4n Aegon is also portrayed very sympathetically this season.

    • @fabiolaliano8620
      @fabiolaliano8620 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Brandon210-q4n I think that’s entirely the point, she herself has clearly warped the prophecy

  • @TheDriedfrogpills
    @TheDriedfrogpills 3 місяці тому +2

    Hell yes another dom video. Even though I have never read any grrm book, love these. I don't have it in me to commit to the length of the books or the shows but I really appreciate these videos. Also, love the tie

  • @MoncœrCoyoteSmith
    @MoncœrCoyoteSmith 3 місяці тому +3

    "Oh, I just can't WAIT to be king."

  • @mobstercassidy9400
    @mobstercassidy9400 3 місяці тому +2

    Congrats on making it 10 years and looking forward to / hoping you keep up the good work.

  • @JJHeff
    @JJHeff 3 місяці тому +4

    God I love that you keep that CGI dragon around for these things. I love him so much.

  • @diegonatan6301
    @diegonatan6301 3 місяці тому +7

    To be honest even without the strike this season would suck, the writers obviously want to give a message that the black side is good and they will deconstruct one side into warped degenerates and strip the other of agency to send that message.

  • @HenriettaBiggle
    @HenriettaBiggle 3 місяці тому +19

    He's writing....Dom, it's been 13 YEARS.

    • @corruptangel6793
      @corruptangel6793 3 місяці тому +12

      Exactly. 5 years? Sure, fine, but 13? If it was a stand alone book or the first in a series, I'd be okay with it... but the next installment of an ongoing series is completely unacceptable.

  • @KakiOlsenCreative
    @KakiOlsenCreative 3 місяці тому +14

    18:19 for the first time, I’m wishing I didn’t watch this because now I feel bad that Matt Smith’s haunting was my second-favorite aspect of this season. It’s not your fault.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +2

      My absolute favourite was the Aegon/Larys scenes.
      But this was a strong second.

  • @dracodracarys2339
    @dracodracarys2339 3 місяці тому +6

    Sheepstealer is the definition of "skrunkly".

  • @melenatorr
    @melenatorr 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh. Also, a person who stands and watches a group of people get burned to death by a dragon, and who begins to presume on the wishes of deities is not necessarily a queen to admire, nor, I think, are we meant to do so. I don't and never have viewed Rhaenyra as the unquestioned heroine of this story, and I think this season is laying the groundwork for why we shouldn't.

  • @fabiolaliano8620
    @fabiolaliano8620 3 місяці тому +4

    the prophecy stuff definitely reads more as something rhaenyra can use to justify all her actions (and so many viewers are falling for it). first she used the prophecy to defend pushing for peace, then she used the prophecy as a reason to send the dragons to war, and now she believes she was specifically chosen by the gods to rule simply because commoner addam claimed seasmoke and is willing to sacrifice dozens of smallfolk for the possibility of 2 dragons having riders. as alicent loses her faith and righteousness, rhaenyra gains faith and righteousness

  • @FeralRubberDuckie
    @FeralRubberDuckie 3 місяці тому +1

    The vision rubbed salt in the Daenerys wound - I will never get over how dirty they did Daenerys/Emilia. She deserved so much better.

  • @cathsaigh2197
    @cathsaigh2197 3 місяці тому +3

    The show Blood and Cheese decision of Helaena having to tell which one is her son doesn't sound like it makes sense. If they really didn't know they could just check.

  • @silversauceran
    @silversauceran 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s the fact that Martin dislikes season 2 so much that speaks volumes.

  • @MorbidMind123
    @MorbidMind123 3 місяці тому +9

    While I recognize there were studio and other outside issues involved with this season, there is also a fundamental misunderstanding of its own characters by the writers going on. What was done to Alicent this season was just awful and thats on no one but the showrunners.

  • @orkosubmarine
    @orkosubmarine 3 місяці тому +5

    lmao "...named Elmo and Kermit...*sigh* GEORGE!" 🤣

  • @TheTravelerww
    @TheTravelerww 3 місяці тому +4

    24:40 I heard "It's ok to want to be king." to the tune of "I just can't wait to be king" from the lion king

  • @jsouth5577
    @jsouth5577 3 місяці тому +2

    Oscar and Kermit are what happens when an author puts in 'Placeholder Names' ie. 'can't think of a good name right now so these silly ones will do until I find a better one and come back to replace them'. Any writer that's got a few years under their belt will warn you - placeholder names never end up being placeholders.

  • @CULeeisMe
    @CULeeisMe 3 місяці тому +15

    I'm always aware of the fact that the Maesters write the histories, and they live in the backyard of the Hightowers. I think the show is aware of this too, and to some extent takes the view that the Hightowers would still want to look good regardless of the end of the Dance.

  • @MourningCoffeeMusic
    @MourningCoffeeMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    Okay. If this explains why they cut this season from 10 to 8 episodes, how does it explain why it’s being reported they’ll only be doing 8 episodes for these next 2 seasons..?

  • @ImIndavyjoneslocker
    @ImIndavyjoneslocker 3 місяці тому +4

    8:23 seems like cregan thinks the white walkers are coming at any time, just like rhaenyra & daemon. so he probably was just chilling there lol

  • @samsmith9315
    @samsmith9315 2 місяці тому +1

    George R R Martin seems to agree with your assessment of the show picking a side. His now-deleted blog post heavily shaded "Team Black" to the point where he repeatedly referred to Helaena as queen and noticably did not do the same for Rhaenyra, even when referring to times when that would have made sense.

  • @nevaehaho61
    @nevaehaho61 3 місяці тому +2

    I hate the Rhaena being merged with Nettles thing. They’re completely different characters. Rhaena’s story is not that she finally succeeds at claiming a dragon which she’s been told is her only option most of her life. She has to find a new avenue and in the book she hatches Morning, one of the last dragons and House Targaryen’s hope for the future after the war. Instead of joining her family and being either killed or having her dragon killed, she becomes one of the last dragonriders, if not THE last since we don’t have Blood and Fire yet. She goes from the one daughter without a dragon to probably the only person who has a dragon. Nettles’ story is that she’s this underdog figure, going from a poor girl to a powerful dragonrider possibly without the magic Targaryen bloodline and by virtue of her own hard work. She becomes maybe an apprentice of Daemon himself and he clearly cares enough for her or at least has enough respect for her that he defies Rhaenyra’s orders to kill her (something a bit more novel in the source material). She founds the clan of The Burned Men in The Vale, going down in history as a “Fire Witch” and living in relative peace. Rhaena adopting Nettles’ storyline goes against George’s writing style. Her claiming a dragon is the obvious choice. It’s too obvious and not that interesting and wouldn’t put her through any emotional turmoil the show could use for drama. It’s “oh no Rhaena hasn’t had a dragon for a season, oh look she claimed one! Problem solved! The end!” instead of “Rhaena was pushed into the background and not seen as that useful for her whole life, she hatches a small dragon that’s too small to fight but now it’s survived where the others have died. Now Rhaena is the only Targaryen with a dragon”. I realllyyyy hope that Rhaenyra’s line of “you will bear our hope for the future” is alluding to Morning and Sheepstealer will reject Rhaena, causing her to fall into a “hero’s darkest hour” situation before Morning hatches.

  • @KakiOlsenCreative
    @KakiOlsenCreative 3 місяці тому +1

    36:43 you’re the only channel I check obsessively in case I missed a notification. Thanks for making me laugh as a latecomer for several years.

  • @mjslack3073
    @mjslack3073 3 місяці тому +3

    5:15 this is the moment I turned my eyes back on and noticed you’re wearing a chain mail tie. I love it

  • @a1918-b4g
    @a1918-b4g 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ve never watched this show but the Seasmoke claiming Adam scenes made me fully invested in the dragons. If the show runners have all the dragons survive it’s because I paid them off

  • @poenpotzu2865
    @poenpotzu2865 3 місяці тому +10

    What i am really afriad now is how Rhaenyra's future is going to look like. Lets just if they want to avoid another Dany fiasco every evil act the black commit in the future will be bent to make Rhaenyra less complicit.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm not sure about that.
      In the finale she was declaring that she intended to kill a disabled boy.

    • @vadalia3860
      @vadalia3860 3 місяці тому

      @@alanpennie8013 You mean an adult rapist?

    • @Joshua-yt8ul
      @Joshua-yt8ul 3 місяці тому

      @@alanpennie8013 it's harder to feel bad for the disabled boy when he's a r*pist and made his bastard children compete in fighting rings 😭

  • @darthstarfire
    @darthstarfire 2 місяці тому +1

    Does everyone forget that Robert the first Baratheon never wanted the throne? He wasn’t a good king

    • @Loki-g3k
      @Loki-g3k 2 місяці тому +1

      And Aegon never wanted it either, and the series showed how unexperience he is. If not wanting the throne makes you a decent ruler, then Aegon and Robert are good kings too. Another important factor about both of them is that they're thrive in battle. Robert defeated targaryens. He was a great warrior but didn't know how to govern.