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DUDE .. DAN... you know when someone says I'm sorry waaay to much.. ? Don't apologize or say people are gonna disagree with your opinions. We who are your fans appreciate the work you put into this show and the daily show. Man you give facts and go in depth as much as you can and I can't thank you enough. Those other Foolish people will never be swayed. I love listening to people I wish I could talk to on a daily basis about my thoughts and theories on movies and tv. Thank you and keep up your amazing job. Your fan Joseph!!
This is an amazingly well done video. Well researched, well structured, and clear and concise explanations. Dan, you've out done yourself with this one. Keep being awesome.
I wish there were more videos like this educating people on how to process and validate information. The internet can give the illusion of concensus when it's not really there.
I love the way Dan explains all this stuff so logically, genuinely, backed with facts and no sensationalism. This is a huge reason why i watch SJU. No BS info. Dan is only talking about the film industry in this video. But so many of the points he makes are happening right across our society in general. Thanks Dan, Thanks SJU.
Some very vocal people are obsessed with tearing things down that are even vaguely portrayed as being more egalitarian. We still have dozens of white male movies, but have a single movie where the lead said she wanted a more representative interviewing line up, and some people lose their minds. I thought it was pretty good, like most Marvel movies. I shared the same views the SJN guys had pretty much. I think she'll be better in Endgame, the Russo brothers just seem to make amazing movies, but I'll still buy this. So far I don't really hate any of the MCU so far. Some have been dodgy, but they've all entertained me, and some have been amazing. I'm just glad we're getting more variety of heroes. I never would have dreamed of this as a kid.
Very true. The same strategies (taking quotes/numbers out of context) have been used to spin many other stories. Unfortunately, most people won't take the time to dig deeper. Dan is a hero for raising awareness about this.
As someone who manages a movie theatre in Little Rock, Arkansas (Dan, you know what’s up) I can confirm that on opening weekend of Captain Marvel, we had a record breaking weekend for us with attendance with many sold out shows, and pretty much every single person who bought a ticket showed up. The long ass concession lines don’t lie!
well there's no way to check because when captain marvel came out the thrleaters I called to see if it was a hoax all told me there was a new rule that they weren't allowed to discuss it anymore.
Capt Marvel wasn't my favorite Marvel movie either (I think the directors made a lot of missteps) and I'm almost annoyed that I find myself defending it right and left because people are unreasonably hating on it and making really stupid excuses to negate its success. It's ridiculous.
Not doing a good job though. He's mainly attacking the source itself rather than going after the facts, and instead of presenting something to the contrary he just states his own conjecture. You see this crap all the time nowadays.
Common sense, ppl... y'all pretending nobody has school or work on a Monday. I would expect EVERY movie to have a Monday drop-off unless said Monday is a holiday.
I literally stared at the wall for five minutes trying to find a time I've seen a movie on a weekday during the day and not during a holiday like damn I can't think of a time.
@Robert Grant But leading up to the movie, it was treated the same way by trolls and the media. Both had less than stellar trailers as well. But why do you dislike Disney? That's the sense I'm getting from your comments. What did Disney do to you, buddy?
@Robert Grant Yeah, I didn't like Last Jedi much either, even though it had two of the coolest scenes I've ever seen in a Star Wars movie. But I didn't blame Disney for it...I blamed Rian Johnson. (^-^)
I went on opening weekend, and sat in a nearly empty theater. BUT: -It was never advertised as sold out -They had showings of Captain Marvel every 15 minutes that night, and the theater lobby was busy -It was a Sunday night -It was at a less popular theater that often has big name movies with empty theaters It's easy to fake "evidence" for your point if you ignore context. Thank you Dan for being rational!
I went Tuesday first week at 4pm showing at a smaller theatre chain that had 8 showings of CM and 4 showings of Alita , pretty empty with only a dozen or so until previews and ads were over then another couple of dozen wandered in. That was why I picked that viewing, a bit early for the school crowd , and late for the people that have to get home and do dinner. Checked out the Alita viewing on the way in which was half way through and only saw maybe a dozen max, but same factors at work there with timing P.S I enjoyed it, yes Brie was a touch stiff at times, but first time for her in that type of environment and I would expect great improvement as she becomes comfortable in the role and with the other cast members. Going again next week (midweek at 4pm again as I am retired and have always been a sci fi fan though never really interested in comics except Charlie Brown type for a insightful chuckle)
Yep, data is only useful in context. If someone is giving you data and not showing you the context of the data, you damn will better be looking to confirm the context of the data yourself. Unforunatley what many people will do, as confirmation bias is a thing, if someone is presenting data to them that confirms their bias, they will not check the data in context and take it as how its presented. They tend to only question data from the opposition.
If I could give Dan a standing ovation in a UA-cam comment, I would. He's right in that it's not about CAPTAIN MARVEL or Disney or the Screen Junkies brand. It's about objective truth and the mass majority of people online taking things at face value and never questioning the source or motivations behind the story. It's collectively dumbing us down and removing honest discourse. Everyone just picks a side and sticks to their agenda and in the end, nobody wins. Thank you, Dan, for fighting the good fight. Keep it up!
@@crescendyr8438 When looked at objectively both sides has problems...if you buy into one side too strongly then chances are you drank some kind of kool aid. From what I can tell the "main stream" does try to paint the "opposition" badly and throw all of them into the same bucket. In reality, there is a wide spread of reactions from people who didn't like the Brie Larson "situation"... some of them do go a little too overboard....some a lot....but some have valid observations.
@@crescendyr8438 Frankly I see both sides have conspiracies. It just so happens the two sides have very different "targets" they harp on. On some issues the Right has its conspiracies and the Left is the voice of reason (like now). Sometimes it's the Left with the conspiracies and it's the Right who says the obvious. Sometimes both of y'all are being idiots and everyone I know just wants to give ya both a big middle finger. Sometimes you're both right in your own ways and would be able to accomplish a lot if you just got over yourselves for once. Now I definitely know what side I think has "worse" shenanigans overall. (It's the Right.) I also know what side's shenanigans have a worse effect on me personally. (It's the Left.) But just because one side is "better" doesn't automatically make it "inherently good". The lesser of two evils is still itself a form of evil (to speak in metaphors).
@@dtester This is a fallacy of moderation. The truth or "objectivity" doesn't necessarily lie at the middle point between two sides. For instance, the "truth" on climate change doesn't lie somewhere between believing its anthropogenic and believing it's not real. In this instance, there is no "middle truth" between the sides saying Captain Marvel was an international hit and others saying it did poorly. There is no "middle truth" between people saying Disney bought out empty theaters and people saying there's no evidence to support that. The "truth" doesn't always or even necessarily lie in between two positions. Sometimes, things are just correct.
@@IBBMS Actually, no it's not fallacy of moderation. I'm pretty sure you are using that completely wrong. Looking at some "objectively" is not stating a "truth". It's me saying what I'm trying to be impartial in some observations that I presented. Take a look at what I wrote. I submitted no "truths" at all.....your response makes no sense.
I don't normally watch SJ beyond the occasional honest trailer. But I want to congratulate you guys on the (surprisingly) wholesome comment section. This means you're cultivating good fans, and that's a merit to you. That's it. peace.
You should really tune in to SJU more often. I don’t always agree with them on everything, but they are always refreshingly positive and respectful even when discussing movies they didn’t personally enjoy. My other go to for positive movie new/reviews is Kevin Smith.
Said this already on Twitter, but it bears repeating: This was one of the most succinct breakdowns of internet trolling and misinformation culture plaguing the internet and fandom right now. That was amazing!
@MJPK Trolls is a shorter and nicer description than the delusional subhumans that spread nonsense deserve. And you actually need more counter evidence? Amazing.
Dan, I just want you to know that what you shared in this video did NOT fall on deaf ears. Thank you for standing up for what was right even for a film that didn't quite connect with you, but you still gave it a fair chance in your assessment backed by facts. Continue to be honest, and truthful in your perspective.
As a man, it is disturbing to me the number of people- mostly guys- with such a hate on for Captain Marvel. It is beneath us to be this petty and those people need to do better. Grow up, try loving women instead of seemingly hating them. The movie is not perfect, but I like Brie and most of my issues with the film actually come from the direction. The dudebros need to let this go, it's beyond pathetic at this point.
Thank you Dan. I had the same feelings as you did about Captain Marvel being “okay” and Brie Larson being a little underwhelming. But to try and push a fake narrative about the box office to put down the movie is ridiculous. I ended up unsubscribing from 2-3 channels who kept posting everyday about the movie failing and it drove me nuts
Was one of them Nerdrotic? Because I subbed them last year for the Expanse videos they were doing, but lately every video from anyone that starts with capt. marvel is looking more and more like clickbait to me, and has been for weeks now!
It kept showing in feed, annoying, I had to click Not Interested many times, and yet when I watched some CM related video, it showed again. Probably it will again after watching this.
Kenjong Mendez - The Quartering and No Bullshit. I remained subbed to the channels that just gave it bad reviews and talked about it in context with the MCU, but couldn’t stand the false information some were using just to put down a movie.
There isn't anything to disagree with in this video. People denying facts these days get to me on a fundamental level and worries me just what people will say and do to protect their biases and personal agendas.
there is exactly one thing to disagree with in this video -- dan's opinion of the movie. i think it's pretty awesome. but that's fine because opinions are subjective. numbers are not.
"This is about sticking up for objective truth" I usually enjoy Dan's insights, but this single point can not be underscored enough--especially in this age of shifting narrative and "alternative facts". Kudos to the SJU crew and especially to Dan!
On a similar note, after Capt Marvel came out, it's funny how many click bate videos came up with "the PROBLEM with Capt Marvel " or similar titles. This is what I hate about the internet. The hate and negativity. Very good video. If I ever use social media again I'll share this.
Some youtube channels like The Quartering made 20 videos about Captain Marvel. He gets about 500 thousand views per video. Even if they are the same 500k guys clicking 20 videos in a row, that's a ton of monetization made for stirring the pot. Some channels, like Geek + Gamers, literally made 100 videos about it. Literally. It's not just about Captain Marvel, or movies. You get way more outrage and get more reviews and money if you shat on a video game, or a corporation, or a sports figure or a politic or someone else's channel. There's no incentive to make a single, well thought, moderate video with data and facts. You get much more money with much less effort if you just rant for 15 minutes, 20 times in a row, and milk the audience.
@Emiscary1 right, but I'm not going out of my way to make videos of what I hate, or go and put extra effort into going around belittling things for no reason. Like I said, I'm well aware that I'm complaining. However, I don't see how making a comment in a video, which is comparatively very bland, is remotely close to the amount of spite that the anti Capt marvel videos have. I do get what you're trying to say but it is drastically not the same.
Thank you for making this Dan. Some people are reaching extremely too far (Stretch Arm Strong Style) trying to make horrible narratives about this movie! They are crazy! Keep up the great work!
Just My Opinion Reviews I couldn’t watch any thing about Captain Marvel last week because of certain narratives. It got so annoying that I could barely watch any movie review channels. Even though Dan didn’t like the movie he still is presenting the facts which I really appreciate.
It's not quite that simple, and its honestly the same with Captain Marvel fan videos. People were excited to see Captain Marvel succeed, so a lot of people ran with rumors that supported their hopes for the film.
@@shift7808 It is relevant because now it doesn't matter if people were putting a positive or negative spin on the movie because it has been out for several weeks and the numbers are the numbers. The fans/critics have no more power now than the haters. The film is a success. End of story. Is it the highest grossing film ever? No. Is it a stain on the MCU's legacy? No. It's just another notch in Marvel's belt as they prepare to introduce the world to the X-Men and FF done correctly.
Most of this misinformation comes from UA-camrs who falsely think having a decent amount of subscribers somehow makes them more intelligent, yet those subs can't do nothing to improve their reading comprehension.
There are flat-earth channels with thousands and thousands of subscribers too. Having a larger number of subscribers does not mean you are correct. As for me there are comic oriented channels I've recently simply unsubscribed and stopped my patreon support too because they jumped onto the captain marvel conspiracy theories and push out of context data to push passing bs to their audience. There are still plenty of people though willing to be paid to be lied to. This isn't anything new. other Conspiracy groups and Teleevagelists and other have been doing it for decades. And in the information age when any moron can put up a channel it has become even easier to get morons to network together to bilk out of money.
Screen Junkies, please take this suggestion seriously. Even if it wasn't a weekly show (we know Dan's a busy guy.) Once a month, quarterly, whatever - I would watch that show.
A lot of people have been saying that Tyrone Magnus needs to see this video. Well, people have tried and even brought it up in his anti captain marvel rants. To those who dont know who he is, he a strong conspiracy theorist who believes that Disney bought up the tickets for Captain Marvel. Here's the ironic part, he deletes any message that disagrees with him. So if you've went to one of his videos and brought it up and wondered why there was no response, from him or anyone, it's because he doesn't block you from seeing his videos. It appears that you're still able to comment and you even see your comment but others dont. This was brought to my attention when my nephew said he'd posted a link to Dan's video on one of Tyrone's rant videos and I didn't see it. So basically it makes it appear that when you disagree with him and dont receive any thumbs up that everyone thinks you're wrong and it he also censors the comments so to other people viewing it makes it appear that everyone agrees with him. It was brought up because we were talking about how disappointed we were in here in finding out he was such an insecure weak minded individual after being supporters of his for so long, going back to when he had less than 100,000 subscribers, even supporting him on other channels like Collider. People weren't attacking him, just trying to have an honest debate and give him facts and data on why he's wrong, like Dan said to do at 33:30. Also, so he'd stop spreading lies and misinformation around. I'm against bullying. If he had an opinion that people disagreed with then thats one thing but he has blatantly spread misleading information and lies around about Brie Larson and Captain America. Whether he liked the movie or didn't like it didn't matter, it was all about doing what Dan is now, trying to stop nonsense lies. So if you have tried to educate Tyrone Magnus on the facts, you may see your comment but no one else does so thats why no one is responding to your comment or giving any thumbs up. One reason why he may believe Disney has done all this misleading stuff is because he does it himself, thats the ironic part of it. Now after finding this out I must say that he is an insecure whiny sexist pathetic uneducated loser who puts his hands over his ears so he doesn't have to learn the real data and facts. So he can live in his own little fantasy world. Now if a person wants to do that and they're not bothering anyone then thats fine but this guy Tyrone Magnus is a pathetic loser who after 3 weeks still wont let it go. It's a shame that Dan has to spend so much time disproving made up nonsense and providing research and facts on things that should be common sense just because people like him want to be immature hating trolls with agendas that dont want to hear the truth because they already know they're lying.
stopped to watch his videos a long time when he reacted to stuff of others unasked and not informed them so he got the money. Don't like how he pretends fan but has some shady stuff.
F him, i used to like him. But never subscribed. I question him when he said bvs is the best superhero movie ever and TLJ was the worst starwars. And he cryng week after week for CM is just pathetic. And wont admit his mistake... Meh
Keep doing this. It’s frightening how far those people go in trying to explain away the success of a movie that didn’t serve their world view I didn’t know that it had gotten so bad!
This is the best video I've ever seen Dan or Screen Junkies do. When you can break up "theories" with straight up facts, I will always be for that. Wish facts meant more across the board in society today. Excellent work!
To be fair he seems pissed off a lot. I think he's as frustrated as I am with this world. It's going to shit, and there is little that can be done to stop it. God knows he's trying with wonderful videos like this.
He's done an amazing job trying to contain himself. Never even used the word "alt right" once. If I had made a video, I'd just throw around words, yelling "incel" haha
Did anyone else LIKE Captain Marvel because it was a fun time and made you laugh a few times (albeit mostly due to Goose)? I mean regardless of what my political viewpoints are, I refuse to let silly politics ruin my love for movies. Also people work on Monday folks, Monday drop-offs are good because it means the majority of peeps are employed...
SPMNDK89 not to mention, it means that most people went out to see the movie during the weekend and didn’t feel the need to go out again after being back to work in a Monday.
SPMNDK89 love the movie but what amaze me is my seven year love it actually went home telling her daddy how she like it and she normally sleeps through all movies no matter how good they are no matter what time I take her .....so far two movie she stay awake on was Jurassic Park and now Captain Marvel
It was fun and I did like it a lot. The start of the film was so so and I liked it more at the point she crashed into the blockbuster. Goose for the win! I want to see Rocket meet up with goose in a later film. Too many of these nerds had poured all their insecurities into shit Brie said or even didn't say.
Yes, we made the 3 hour drive to to see CM because she had a disappointing experience at school. It really wasn’t really about the movie, although she loves the MCU, it was about creating a cherished memory and making sure she was o.k.
I expected box office news - what I got was a TED talk about objective truth, accountability and responsibility. Thanks Dan, and everyone at screenjunkies, you guys are the best
Facts and logic are like a foreign language to the MAGA crowd... wait that’s just it! Facts and logic are foreign to them so they build a wall around their small minds to keep truth out. I guess that’s the only wall they can build since Mexico ain’t paying for squat.
Great video, Dan. I tried to carry on an argument with another UA-camr peddling the exact conspiracy that you addressed at the end. Tried to tell him that corporate accounting doesn't work like that and a publically traded company's books are constantly audited. It'd be difficult to impossible for Disney to hide 100+ million expenditure that would have gone into the "fake" box office. Furthermore, if Disney was going to pull a stunt like this, they would have done it for Solo and TLJ. Disney spent a ton more money on the SW IP and the success of those movies means more to Disney than one out of the 20+ MCU films. Didn't go so well because I was automatically a Disney bot.
Frank Liu Well, that's the problem with those who peddle conspiracies. Any evidence you bring them that disproves their conspiracies is immediately denounced as fake and part of the conspiracy. And then they will claim you are are part of the conspiracy, or deluded. Because Science did a whole video explaining the twisted thinking of the conspiracy theorist.
If you're subscribed to channels or news sources that are spewing the myths that Dan just busted, maybe question your subscriptions to said places. If they're lying about this, what else are they lying to you about.
I'm not subscribed to said channels I can name 3 or 4 but I see them on my recommend list a lot ….most of them just did not like brie's comment and that’s the main issue …. But to make a video every day reporting the daily drop off in box-office seems a bit much ….but again they got recommended so who am I to judge?
@@nasraabdullah6935 UA-cam's algorithm really sucks. I clicked on "Not Interested" on those sensationalist videos, but they're still the next video in auto-play when I watch Captain Marvel-related content. It really is about clicks and views; nobody cares about the truth anymore.
@@nasraabdullah6935 I've got one channel that I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from after all this debacle. They've got hours of content talking about Larson's comments and even repeated the seat buying conspiracy theory (though they categorized it as a rumor). I didn't like this movie. I feel like I'm spending too much time listening to people talk about how bad it is. UA-cam's algorithm really needs to get better.
I think your comment combined with Dan's mention of how outrage really drives clicks on the internet really hits on something important. When you've got channels that are more or less driven by angry rants, then take a step back and consider that maybe all they're interested in is feeding that machine. They don't care about facts, they just care about what's going to drive more clicks. And even if they're lying, that'll drive clicks because it goes against the grain of reality. They can pull the "I'm the only one that's willing to tell you the truth" nonsense.
@@stickkman by any chance is it Midnight's Edge? I have a love/hate relationship with that channel. Sometimes they seem to be spot on with their videos and other times they're just stirring the pot to get their followers riled up.
I'm only 6 minutes in and just have to say thank you Dan. Thank you for being the voice of reason and providing cold hard facts to shut down these trolls. It's just ridiculous how they're STILL trying to spin this movie as a massive disaster. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
*almost done with the video, sees that only 5 minutes left* "Holy shit, I forgot this was still going!" Maybe I'm just numb to Dan Rants at this point. I don't know why people are so intent on slandering this movie. I mean, I KNOW why people do it, but I don't understand why people think their attitude toward it is justified. Grown-ass adults seem to still believe that girls have cooties or some bullshit like that.
Too bad this video is only 36mins. I mean, watching Dan deconstruct all the haters & trolls tinfoil conspiracy theories. I disagreed with Dan’s review of CM but I 💯 agree with him on this video. Sadly, the people who should watch this video will never learn anything from it. Common sense isn’t something they have. The worst part, the false reporting and misinformation is believed by many blindly.
Terry Pratchett observed that many people have a unique capacity to question things said by an expert, but will believe _anything_ told them by some bloke down the pub.
Really appreciate the video, not just because you're telling it straight and using logic to debunk a lot of misinformation out there, but also because you refrained from name-calling and insulting whole groups of people you don't know, (unlike so many other UA-camrs I could mention...). There are all kinds of people out there with a lot of biases, and a lot of different reasons for those biases. And when these people get into groups there tends to be a so much shouting and screaming at 'opposing factions' that often they can't hear anyone else outside of their own echo chamber. The best way to get through to people is to just sit down, chillax, and talk on the level. When you put it across in a way that doesn't threaten another person's ego, it's a lot easier to get them to think more rationally and see reason.
He did not even like the film. He is going to be called a shill in certain quarters, anybody who watches him knows he is fair and speaks things how he see it. Even when i disagree with his opinion on a film i trust he speaks honestly from his point of view.
@@Oxmustube yeah, I did agree with the review, but the fact the he went to bat for a movie he didn't even recommend for the sake of the truth is how a mature person looks at the world. I wish more people would see this video and learn.
Vojislav Medic Take a quick look at some of those fake news sites and their echo chambers and you will soon see that it won't happen. Being a misanthrope like me means that I am rarely disappointed. Dan being the exception.
they are just doing it for clicks, views , subs and when they go live. Super Chats! It's the flavor of the last couple months. I wonder what will be next.
@@chadcrypto2675 I dont think its just because of clicks and views. We cant pretend a lot of those channels and accounts don't have political reasons for hating a female lead super hero franchise that has an out spoken actress as the main character. They need this film to be a failure to prop up their world view. The fact that they've been reduced to such bizarre conspiracy theories when it didnt speaks volumes.
@@BaronVonLethal I think it has more to do with the people praising this movie for political reasons only and the main actress saying stupid stuff 27/7 Similar story to Black Panther tbh.
@mxt mxt So you admit to being stupid ("...also stupid?") and use the auto industry, something that is nowhere near close to movie industry, aside from branding I suppose, to give you some sense of credibility (reaching much). Interestingly enough I saw another of your kind (maybe it was also you) who attempted to downgrade the MCU's accumulated box office profits, an impressive achievement that took 10+ years to achieve, by comparing it to the real estate industry, saying that people in the real estate business make loads more money in a single year than the entirety of the MCU has. News flash, everyone is going to need a car OR real estate deals down the line, sooner or later, because they have become necessities in today's era. The only thing that has kept Hollywood afloat these past 10 years is the MCU. Only now are they getting decent competition from WB and Sony with hits such as Aquaman, Spiderverse, Godzilla, Pokemon and so on. Keep denying CM's success all you want but the truth is that you are grasping at straws here. Take this as you will.
@mxt mxt If I listened to so called reviewers that said a movie was bad I would have missed many that I enjoyed. The worst movie I ever went to see was one that reviewers were raving about, I found it boring.
First time I've come across your channel, and I never leave comments on anything but..... Really really well done. Great breakdown of the numbers, strategies, and what they mean to the business aspect of film making. Respect!
Yeah, I started following them during the Ghostbusters 2016 thing because frankly that was a pile of very superficial and largely fake feminism. Yes, obviously Disney is a Capitalist company and they require profits, but they have been hiring some decent people with an actual substantial message and not just cocky attitudes and catchy platitudes. I started to get the sense that Midnight's Edge were catering to an anti-feminist audience when they kept saying Kathleen Kennedy was going to be fired due to Solo which, yeah it was a bad movie, but that's a ridiculous assertion to make. Her batting average has slipped a little in the last decade or so but you're talking about a Producer with a legendary career. I'm really sick of Midnight's Edge now. Also their Facebook group is Very Toxic.
I am glad somebody is. I don't like the movie myself and I have a lot of beef with it, but the lies being pushed by the by these other group with a clear agenda. It is becoming way too common for all us to get bombarded with the lies these groups are trying to push. It becomes really worrisome when you consider how many people are believing them and trying to stir up controversy where there is none.
@@Rostifurd The critical Captain Marvel videos spread a lot of rumors around, but they have no "agenda". Their intention isn't a secret or concealed. They're attempting to spread awareness ABOUT agendas, and some times rumors get started. The controversy is that there's a pattern involved in hijacking things that males care deeply about and turning it into something that spits in the faces of existing fans, and portrays a really desperate form of feminism where its really forced and in your face, constantly, inescapable. It's a political statement disguised as something else. That's an agenda.
@@shift7808 Not disagreeing or agreeing, I don't know enough about your viewpoint, but how did any of that apply to Captain Marvel? I've read Captain Marvel comics off and on since it was a Kree man, and had never considered it a feminist move when Danvers took up the mantle a few years ago, just a logical step in the characters arc based on both characters' history. I didn't notice a ton of feminism in the actual movie either, certainly not forced or in your face. If the criticism continues past release to the point of fabricating conspiracies about ticket fraud or ignoring factual data about sales just to fit a narrative...well certainly not all but at least some of the anti captain marvel crowd(I didn't even know there was an anti captain marvel crowd...) is definitely pushing an agenda.
I'm glad someone like you has a platform to address something like this. I've grown so tired of all the sensationalist garbage out there, I've been gradually disconnecting from social media.
@I Identify as a Dragon Yes, well you have to hop into their mentality to understand why they went with a Monday number. They started off the pre-release narrative of the movie bombing, then when it did not bomb on opening they predicted it would hit in reviewership subsequently. The first number tehy get is the Monday viewership drop figure. This number appears high in the 70%... so it looks large, so they use this to give to tehir audience to show their right. That is pretty much all the thought that went in to it. There was no concern if the number was actually high... it just had to look high from a contextless view that the person can just insert the context they want into.
I've been paying attention to movie box office for like 35 years ever since Entertainment Tonight first went on the air. And I've never heard of anyone paying attention to a mivies' Monday numbers.
@Robert Grant Really? I just checked IMDB's Advanced Search feature and here are just some of the high-profile Disney movies from 2010 through the present that critics did not like (being categorized as "red" or "yellow" by Metacritic): A Wrinkle in Time; The Nutcracker and the Four Realms; The Sorcerer's Apprentice; I Am Number Four; Cars 2; Alice Through the Looking Glass; Oz the Great and Powerful; The Lone Ranger; Tomorrowland; Alice in Wonderland; John Carter; Prince of Persia; Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Men Tell No Tales; TRON Legacy; Cars 3; Maleficent; Thor: The Dark World; Real Steel; Christopher Robin. To expand on this, from the year 2000 through the present, there have been 144 Disney-related movies with a "red" or "yellow" Metacritic rating and 102 "green". ~58% bad versus ~41% good, according to critics. By comparison, from the year 1900 through the year 1999, there were 80 red and yellow, and there were 80 green. 50% to 50%. So the new millennium has actually seen critics get harder on Disney? Or maybe there's no conspiracy and critics just say what they personally think. =]
This is the kind of content we need more of on UA-cam. I’ve watched a lot of captain marvel discussion videos and it’s incredibly refreshing to see a logical, unbiased perspective from a man who didn’t even really like the movie. Calling out clickbait headlines and unreliable sources, making the distinction between truth and perception based on biased media. Great video 👌🏼
Dan, you were not ranty or long-winded, you were a joy to listen to, as usual, because you were logical, intelligent and just plain awesome. Thank you for that!
Speaking as an English teacher who spends an INORDINATE amount of time trying to explain to my students how to weigh various information sources: THANK YOU for that section of the video above all.
Must be fun being a UA-cam "journalist" these days. All you need is: A. Find something people are angry about. B. Make a minimum 10 minutes video quoting unconfirmed information you found or made up rumors. C. Give it a clickbait title and eye-catching thumbnail. D. Let the clicks and ad revenue come in. E. Never release a correction or apology because who cares, you already got paid and spread a little more hatred in the world. Thank you Dan for being an island of sanity in this crazy industry sea.
@kkaradin I was not talking about Dan. I literally thanked him for being an island of sanity in a crazy filled media sea. I was talking about all the bombastic click bait videos and half baked articles that exist only to spread rumors and shift the nerative to what they see fit or just make money out of ignorance of gullible people. Facts don't matter to them and there is no accountability.
God Dan is so good at this. I love seeing a cohost but I didn’t mind learning about these myths for a half hour. I watch every Monday and this is truly interesting. Big fan of Dan calling fact from fiction and giving Captain Marvel credit where it is due
In searching for this weeks Charting with Dan I found this one that I had missed. Dan, you are amazing....thank you for all you've said. It's so important to understand! Just because something is 'said', 'tweeted', or whatever, doesn't make it true. Love this! Thanks!!!!! Amen, amen, amen!
Who goes to the movies on Monday? People trying so hard to downplay this movie that now we care about Monday's. Watch 5 weeks from now oh look captain marvel only made 5 million this weekend total failed 95% drop from opening weekend lol
Truth. My days are Thursday night for major releases that hold my interest (the MCUs, mainly), and Saturday or Sunday for regular viewing (typically in the afternoon, because matinee is cheaper). Occasionally if I have a day off in the middle of the week there MIGHT be a weekday viewing, but usually it's just those.
Indeed. They're just trying to cherry-pick facts to make their predictions look better or trying to smear the movie. It's kind of sad. However, it's very frustrating at the same time.
exactly nobody is going to the movies with their family on a Monday 😂😂 everybody knows Monday is the day of the week that us humans dread the most so why the hell would we feel like going into a loud ass movie theatre on a monday lol
Chad Crypto I’m the same, mostly. Friday at noon or as close to it, specifically to avoid crowds and that I am able to go during the day during the week. Failing that, then Monday or Tuesday... unless I’m really nervous about spoilers. I was actually surprised at the number of kids in the Friday noon IMAX viewing I went to.
the amount of sensationalized Captain Marvel and Brie Larson videos i've seen on thumbnails have been so frustrating. This factual based opinion/discussion was super refreshing. Thank you.
Unfortunately, they’re still doing the sensationalized Brie Larson videos. For people that hate her so much, they keep talking about her a lot. If they really want to make her irrelevant, ignore her.
Don't normally watch this channel, not because I dislike it but because I never discovered it but just want to say thank you for making this video. Its hard to watch so many things anymore because of how "toxic" the internet can be. Why do people need this movie to fail? I just don't understand it. How does this movie succeeding or failing even impact them. It boggles my mind.
The truth is, most of the people with conspiracy theories, don't want to know the truth. I was surprised that Tyrone Magnus jumped on the article about the huge plunge on the Monday after. People just want their own view supported, even if it's with a lie or deceptive stories. I don't care if people like or hate CM ( if they've seen it) but it's bogus and dishonest to pass lies around as truth, particularly UA-camrs who have the ears of tens of thousand of people. Dan, I appreciate that you did his video. Truth is always preferably to alternative facts.
Tyrone..... He recorded the highly requested Childish Gambino - This is America reaction that a big part of his supporters wanted to know the opinion of on his backup account and his "reaction" is just blank stare and says at the end he has no opinion wanting to stay out of politics.... Comment section you see people call him out as being exactly what the part near the end says about getting money. He uploaded it there obviously to avoid getting his more white conservative subscribers angry and leave. Captain Marvel videos have been uploaded boom boom boom by him not afraid to give his 2 cents on this which has obviously turned very political. I unsubbed for seeing how he's exploited it for clicks... Reacting to everything before it came out even rotten tomatoes so he's full of shit about saying he went in with an unbiased mindset. "Get your money, black man" - Childish Gambino. Married2TheReal are actually REAL with their spoiler review and say it like it is when it comes to where the negativity comes from ua-cam.com/video/4EWmDIMhrxg/v-deo.html
I'll tell you, I watch a lot of movie and game review/analysis shows. Cinema and gaming are my passions. And I'm not one to normally "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" a UA-cam video. If I like something...I just say to myself that I liked it and move on. But this is the first video in 2 years that I've taken the time to give a thumbs up, comment on doing so, and shared on my personal Facebook review page. I appreciate Dan for doing this. My only regret is that he can't clone himself and do a video like this for every movie I've ever loved that was killed by bad, incorrect or hateful press. Thank you Dan. Thank you Screen Junkies. I hope that your channel prospers until the heat-death of the universe.
Wow, people are grasping at straws. Anything to diss a movie that's doing just fine as a MCU movie (which means it's doing spectacularly for a film). As usual, whenever it's a female entertainer/star/etc in the hot seat, people give it WAY more scrutinization and actively *look* for reasons to hate it rather than just give it the same neutral watch that they'd give something not starring a woman.
The only reason it makes money is because its riding off the momentum of the MCU. If it was a standalone movie like Supergirl, it would have flopped too.
Except we dont? We dont care who takes the hot seat. But if the movie is bad, its bad lol. Man, woman, trans, gay who ever is in the protagonist role, it doesnt matter, if the movie is bad, its bad.
So true. I've never seen this level of pettiness to destroy a movies success because they didn't like the lead. The amount of videos that were made about CM before it was even released was insane. They were grasping at straws and they failed spectacularly
If Disney buys tickets, they have to be covering concessions. Movie theaters would be pissed if they lose their popcorn money from 25 seats per showing.
@Chiriac Puiu if this was happening, most movie theaters would notice that they had a slow day on concessions for how many people bought tickets. And that's assuming they didn't notice the empty theaters themselves or the theaters selling out online but no one coming to pick up the tickets.
@Chiriac Puiu Y'all trolls picked a dumb hill to die on months ago and ya got smoked the last two weeks and just won't stop, but that's ok, keep catchin those L's like a good boy 😂😂
Chiriac Puiu Sure, I bet Brie is sitting in her mansion crying into wads of money because a few irrelevant people like you who couldn’t even hurt CM box office hurt her feelings.
the 64 people who disliked this are the ones who made the videos and articles that Dan is talking about also I would/have watched videos of Dan talk numbers
Thank you, Dan! Love this show (and its audience! How often do we see such polite comments? So refreshing!). And I love how sensible and fair you are. You disliked the movie, but still took the time to set the record straight about its box office. It's amazing how a lot of what you said should be obvious and yet people choose to believe in clickbait-y fake news.
Revan Ruler Ha, you don't even know how moronic they are (like main complaints of new She-Ra were changes to the main lore even though they didn't change it). There has to be some mental issues/deflections in order to be such losers: www.reddit.com/r/moviescirclejerk/comments/az2a66/i_dont_care_about_captain_marvel_geeksgamers/ People unironically watch these videos rabbidly and then claim they are righteous because some losers on the internet said they have to dislike a movie. Anti-SJWs are the biggest SJWs, change my mind.
I still hate Captain Marvel and I'm proud that I cheered for the film to tank. And I will stick by that to the end. Just because it didn't tank doesn't mean it *should* have.
@@xamhehehe7888 Nobody: Xam: "I still hate CM." -------------- Xam: "Just because it didn't tank doesn't mean it *should* have." Also Xam: *"I cheered for the film to tank."*
Thanks Dan! This is a great example of responsible journalism. I really wish Captain Marvel had been better, but there have really been some wild claims made about it and I really appreciate the in depth fact check.
Thank you for this. Personally I loved the movie but I'm glad that even though you didn't like it, you can still be objective about this topic. Hopefully this changes some minds and makes people more critical about the sources they're using to get facts about these things and they can stop spreading these lies. Great video :)
That's why I always double check the source of any informations, especially for comics/movies news. I'm tired of that group of people spewing their racist and misogynist views and alternative facts. I'm so thankful for people like you Dan! Keep up the good work 👍
I literally ask one guy to provide a source for the 750M break even and when he showed me the Deadline article and pointed out that it wasn’t saying what he thought it said he proceeded to deflect.
Dan this video was great. Like you I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, but the way people are spinning the stories and the narrative around this film is ridiculous. I'm so tired of every major release having some sort of controversy around it and then that being blown up by crap blogs and websites trying to get clicks.
It seems that people can't accept that it was a mediocre average film on both sides - "white dude" youtubers completely hating on the film just cus of Brie Larson and left wing media praising this movie as amazing just cus of feminist messages and female lead. Why can't we just take out politics and accept the movie for what it is - an entertaining film with strong performances from Jackson and Mendelssohn and a weak main character that didn't have enough flaws and a mediocre performance from Brie Larson.
@@jeremypcleung I'd argue it was poor directing for Larson. Some scenes she is great, others I'd agree she is mediocre. I don't put a lot of stock in oscars or any awards, but generally terrible actors don't win those. I still thought the movie as a whole was great.
@@SilortheBlade i dont know if it was directing or Larson herself but her snarky attitude sort of bleeds into her character whereas you can really feel the humility and righteousness in Captain America even though he has super strength and stuff. don't know who to blame except that the character wasn't quite likeable although I enjoyed performances from Jackson and Mendelsohn
Thank you all for watching and having a rational, data-centric discussion around Captain Marvel's box-office.
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DUDE .. DAN... you know when someone says I'm sorry waaay to much.. ? Don't apologize or say people are gonna disagree with your opinions. We who are your fans appreciate the work you put into this show and the daily show. Man you give facts and go in depth as much as you can and I can't thank you enough. Those other Foolish people will never be swayed. I love listening to people I wish I could talk to on a daily basis about my thoughts and theories on movies and tv. Thank you and keep up your amazing job. Your fan Joseph!!
Dan definitely should hosting a new show where he provide the movie review based on the data and number
This is an amazingly well done video. Well researched, well structured, and clear and concise explanations. Dan, you've out done yourself with this one. Keep being awesome.
I wish there were more videos like this educating people on how to process and validate information. The internet can give the illusion of concensus when it's not really there.
You're doing God's work Dan. Always know you're appreciated for your integrity.
Came for charting with Dan, got a piece about truth, biases and sensacionalism.
Was not disapointed.
Go Dan, we don't need sensasionalism
I love the way Dan explains all this stuff so logically, genuinely, backed with facts and no sensationalism. This is a huge reason why i watch SJU. No BS info.
Dan is only talking about the film industry in this video. But so many of the points he makes are happening right across our society in general.
Thanks Dan, Thanks SJU.
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Some very vocal people are obsessed with tearing things down that are even vaguely portrayed as being more egalitarian. We still have dozens of white male movies, but have a single movie where the lead said she wanted a more representative interviewing line up, and some people lose their minds. I thought it was pretty good, like most Marvel movies. I shared the same views the SJN guys had pretty much. I think she'll be better in Endgame, the Russo brothers just seem to make amazing movies, but I'll still buy this. So far I don't really hate any of the MCU so far. Some have been dodgy, but they've all entertained me, and some have been amazing. I'm just glad we're getting more variety of heroes. I never would have dreamed of this as a kid.
Very true. The same strategies (taking quotes/numbers out of context) have been used to spin many other stories. Unfortunately, most people won't take the time to dig deeper. Dan is a hero for raising awareness about this.
Too bad he was cherry picking and misrepresenting the "facts".
@@randallmccollum418 Oh please, bless us with your "true wisdom" then. If you can even present a proper counter argument.
As someone who manages a movie theatre in Little Rock, Arkansas (Dan, you know what’s up) I can confirm that on opening weekend of Captain Marvel, we had a record breaking weekend for us with attendance with many sold out shows, and pretty much every single person who bought a ticket showed up. The long ass concession lines don’t lie!
well there's no way to check because when captain marvel came out the thrleaters I called to see if it was a hoax all told me there was a new rule that they weren't allowed to discuss it anymore.
So it's basically a dinner date with Dan talking about the box office all through it. Sounds good to me.
Brent Dreher lol. I just put my fork down to reply to this. That’s exactly what I just did.
I'm in...
I'm just sitting here, my phone in one hand and leftover pizza in the other.
needed more candles and Dan in a tux... 🤣
@@inadequatebehavior9460 has to be a flannel tux, though.
Thank you Dan, for arguing in defense of a movie you didn't even like or recommend. Triple D (YES TRIPLE D) is pretty great!
Capt Marvel wasn't my favorite Marvel movie either (I think the directors made a lot of missteps) and I'm almost annoyed that I find myself defending it right and left because people are unreasonably hating on it and making really stupid excuses to negate its success. It's ridiculous.
NS Cat triple D for the win!
It's not even my favorite Sam Jackson movie of 2019 so far, but honest discussion and truthful reporting is refreshing, weird I know!
Like he said, numbers are numbera
I feel like he recommended it for Marvel fans. My memory fails me though.
This is not just a captain marvel box office number video. It is a ‘how to check your news is not fake news’ video.
Not doing a good job though. He's mainly attacking the source itself rather than going after the facts, and instead of presenting something to the contrary he just states his own conjecture. You see this crap all the time nowadays.
Common sense, ppl... y'all pretending nobody has school or work on a Monday. I would expect EVERY movie to have a Monday drop-off unless said Monday is a holiday.
I can't even believe that was used as an argument against Capt Marvel's box office. Sooo fucking dumb.
I literally stared at the wall for five minutes trying to find a time I've seen a movie on a weekday during the day and not during a holiday like damn I can't think of a time.
@Robert Grant By your logic, Ghostbusters '16 should've been a box office hit as well.
@Robert Grant But leading up to the movie, it was treated the same way by trolls and the media. Both had less than stellar trailers as well. But why do you dislike Disney? That's the sense I'm getting from your comments. What did Disney do to you, buddy?
@Robert Grant Yeah, I didn't like Last Jedi much either, even though it had two of the coolest scenes I've ever seen in a Star Wars movie. But I didn't blame Disney for it...I blamed Rian Johnson. (^-^)
Half an hour of numbers with Dan?
Sign me up
Same :)
Got a lot smarter listening to Dan breakdown and interpret numbers....
I went on opening weekend, and sat in a nearly empty theater. BUT:
-It was never advertised as sold out
-They had showings of Captain Marvel every 15 minutes that night, and the theater lobby was busy
-It was a Sunday night
-It was at a less popular theater that often has big name movies with empty theaters
It's easy to fake "evidence" for your point if you ignore context. Thank you Dan for being rational!
Simply get to the theater early and snap a pic lol. Lots of people don't show up til previews have started.
I went Tuesday first week at 4pm showing at a smaller theatre chain that had 8 showings of CM and 4 showings of Alita , pretty empty with only a dozen or so until previews and ads were over then another couple of dozen wandered in. That was why I picked that viewing, a bit early for the school crowd , and late for the people that have to get home and do dinner.
Checked out the Alita viewing on the way in which was half way through and only saw maybe a dozen max, but same factors at work there with timing
P.S I enjoyed it, yes Brie was a touch stiff at times, but first time for her in that type of environment and I would expect great improvement as she becomes comfortable in the role and with the other cast members.
Going again next week (midweek at 4pm again as I am retired and have always been a sci fi fan though never really interested in comics except Charlie Brown type for a insightful chuckle)
@@GoodOldGamer Or wait until everyone has left
Yep, data is only useful in context. If someone is giving you data and not showing you the context of the data, you damn will better be looking to confirm the context of the data yourself. Unforunatley what many people will do, as confirmation bias is a thing, if someone is presenting data to them that confirms their bias, they will not check the data in context and take it as how its presented. They tend to only question data from the opposition.
I heard some stuff about this happening alot AMD showing there was a purchase for a seat that was a no show
If I could give Dan a standing ovation in a UA-cam comment, I would. He's right in that it's not about CAPTAIN MARVEL or Disney or the Screen Junkies brand. It's about objective truth and the mass majority of people online taking things at face value and never questioning the source or motivations behind the story. It's collectively dumbing us down and removing honest discourse. Everyone just picks a side and sticks to their agenda and in the end, nobody wins. Thank you, Dan, for fighting the good fight. Keep it up!
@@crescendyr8438 When looked at objectively both sides has problems...if you buy into one side too strongly then chances are you drank some kind of kool aid. From what I can tell the "main stream" does try to paint the "opposition" badly and throw all of them into the same bucket. In reality, there is a wide spread of reactions from people who didn't like the Brie Larson "situation"... some of them do go a little too overboard....some a lot....but some have valid observations.
@@crescendyr8438 Iron man 2 is a f'n MASTERPIECE!!
@@crescendyr8438 Frankly I see both sides have conspiracies. It just so happens the two sides have very different "targets" they harp on. On some issues the Right has its conspiracies and the Left is the voice of reason (like now). Sometimes it's the Left with the conspiracies and it's the Right who says the obvious. Sometimes both of y'all are being idiots and everyone I know just wants to give ya both a big middle finger. Sometimes you're both right in your own ways and would be able to accomplish a lot if you just got over yourselves for once.
Now I definitely know what side I think has "worse" shenanigans overall. (It's the Right.) I also know what side's shenanigans have a worse effect on me personally. (It's the Left.) But just because one side is "better" doesn't automatically make it "inherently good". The lesser of two evils is still itself a form of evil (to speak in metaphors).
@@dtester This is a fallacy of moderation. The truth or "objectivity" doesn't necessarily lie at the middle point between two sides. For instance, the "truth" on climate change doesn't lie somewhere between believing its anthropogenic and believing it's not real. In this instance, there is no "middle truth" between the sides saying Captain Marvel was an international hit and others saying it did poorly. There is no "middle truth" between people saying Disney bought out empty theaters and people saying there's no evidence to support that. The "truth" doesn't always or even necessarily lie in between two positions. Sometimes, things are just correct.
@@IBBMS Actually, no it's not fallacy of moderation. I'm pretty sure you are using that completely wrong. Looking at some "objectively" is not stating a "truth". It's me saying what I'm trying to be impartial in some observations that I presented. Take a look at what I wrote. I submitted no "truths" at all.....your response makes no sense.
Whatever we did to deserve Dan Murrell was not enough
I don't normally watch SJ beyond the occasional honest trailer. But I want to congratulate you guys on the (surprisingly) wholesome comment section. This means you're cultivating good fans, and that's a merit to you. That's it. peace.
Awww thanks ;)
You should really tune in to SJU more often. I don’t always agree with them on everything, but they are always refreshingly positive and respectful even when discussing movies they didn’t personally enjoy. My other go to for positive movie new/reviews is Kevin Smith.
There are moderators :( but yeah most fans are great.
Mikayla Eager Kevin Smith is a ray of sunshine :)
I love that he did this for a movie he didn’t even like... thank you for calling BS to all the unnecessary hate
That's what's amazing. He is not defending the movie, but the purity of his profession. Great video.
Said this already on Twitter, but it bears repeating: This was one of the most succinct breakdowns of internet trolling and misinformation culture plaguing the internet and fandom right now. That was amazing!
@MJPK Trolls is a shorter and nicer description than the delusional subhumans that spread nonsense deserve. And you actually need more counter evidence? Amazing.
@MJPK so he's an "idiotic dumbass" for calling them out for what they are? 🤔
100% agree. What's alarming is The fact that this even needs to be explained. Very alarming
I disagree Dan. You talking about box office numbers and facts is very very sexy.
RonyH7 I wasn’t going to say anything to avoid potentially making anyone uncomfortable but... it’s not NOT sexy 🤷🏽♀️
Dan "It;s just you and me" - and that's all I need Dan, that's all I need
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Dan, I just want you to know that what you shared in this video did NOT fall on deaf ears. Thank you for standing up for what was right even for a film that didn't quite connect with you, but you still gave it a fair chance in your assessment backed by facts.
Continue to be honest, and truthful in your perspective.
As a man, it is disturbing to me the number of people- mostly guys- with such a hate on for Captain Marvel. It is beneath us to be this petty and those people need to do better. Grow up, try loving women instead of seemingly hating them. The movie is not perfect, but I like Brie and most of my issues with the film actually come from the direction. The dudebros need to let this go, it's beyond pathetic at this point.
Thank you Dan. I had the same feelings as you did about Captain Marvel being “okay” and Brie Larson being a little underwhelming. But to try and push a fake narrative about the box office to put down the movie is ridiculous. I ended up unsubscribing from 2-3 channels who kept posting everyday about the movie failing and it drove me nuts
Was one of them Nerdrotic? Because I subbed them last year for the Expanse videos they were doing, but lately every video from anyone that starts with capt. marvel is looking more and more like clickbait to me, and has been for weeks now!
Which channels?
It kept showing in feed, annoying, I had to click Not Interested many times, and yet when I watched some CM related video, it showed again. Probably it will again after watching this.
like Geeks + gamers
Kenjong Mendez - The Quartering and No Bullshit. I remained subbed to the channels that just gave it bad reviews and talked about it in context with the MCU, but couldn’t stand the false information some were using just to put down a movie.
Dan sounding like a lone voice of logic in a mad world. We need more Dan Murrells today.
Well said. It’s really sad that we’ve fallen this far 😞
EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS VIDEO. Dan is fair and honest. Couldn't have described the world we live in better than this. Great job!
The haters will spin it.
They are already accusing dan of being a Disney shill even with all the numbers 🤦♂️
There isn't anything to disagree with in this video. People denying facts these days get to me on a fundamental level and worries me just what people will say and do to protect their biases and personal agendas.
Ironically those same people are usually the ones screaming about Hollywood pushing certain agendas onto them. The hypocrisy is truly disgusting.
@@sickleweed3270 Exactly!
there is exactly one thing to disagree with in this video -- dan's opinion of the movie. i think it's pretty awesome. but that's fine because opinions are subjective. numbers are not.
@@sirmoonslosthismind You got me there I guess.
"This is about sticking up for objective truth" I usually enjoy Dan's insights, but this single point can not be underscored enough--especially in this age of shifting narrative and "alternative facts". Kudos to the SJU crew and especially to Dan!
On a similar note, after Capt Marvel came out, it's funny how many click bate videos came up with "the PROBLEM with Capt Marvel " or similar titles. This is what I hate about the internet. The hate and negativity.
Very good video. If I ever use social media again I'll share this.
I saw one that said "how is Brie Larson RUINNING Marvel" like wtf lol
@Emiscary1 lol i like to say "outrage over outrage is outrageous"
Some youtube channels like The Quartering made 20 videos about Captain Marvel. He gets about 500 thousand views per video. Even if they are the same 500k guys clicking 20 videos in a row, that's a ton of monetization made for stirring the pot. Some channels, like Geek + Gamers, literally made 100 videos about it. Literally.
It's not just about Captain Marvel, or movies. You get way more outrage and get more reviews and money if you shat on a video game, or a corporation, or a sports figure or a politic or someone else's channel. There's no incentive to make a single, well thought, moderate video with data and facts. You get much more money with much less effort if you just rant for 15 minutes, 20 times in a row, and milk the audience.
@Emiscary1 no body said we weren't complaining?
@Emiscary1 right, but I'm not going out of my way to make videos of what I hate, or go and put extra effort into going around belittling things for no reason. Like I said, I'm well aware that I'm complaining. However, I don't see how making a comment in a video, which is comparatively very bland, is remotely close to the amount of spite that the anti Capt marvel videos have.
I do get what you're trying to say but it is drastically not the same.
Thank you for making this Dan. Some people are reaching extremely too far (Stretch Arm Strong Style) trying to make horrible narratives about this movie! They are crazy! Keep up the great work!
Just My Opinion Reviews I couldn’t watch any thing about Captain Marvel last week because of certain narratives. It got so annoying that I could barely watch any movie review channels. Even though Dan didn’t like the movie he still is presenting the facts which I really appreciate.
Robert Grant Facts don’t care about your feelings lol
Just My Opinion Reviews To be fair, people are also going far out of their way to defend the movie and explain why it’s so great
@@TStamp-lw4ku That's because so many people are going out of their way to tear it down.
@@justmyopinion84 exactly, also people just ACTUALLY enjoyed the movie. I saw it 5 times total. Regular, 3d,IMAX and the last 2 in regular.
Guys this was an amazing thing you did. I didn’t like the movie. But the rumor mill was insane.
And I liked it but the good out of this is that it's opinionated. I respect your opinion because you judged the movie for yourself.💪
I enjoyed it and will be going to see it for the second time next week
I like it it was enjoyable movie
Yes, he even blacked out the names of the people tweeting misinformation, he is not out to smeer or camgain, he just wants the facts to be upheld!
I dont like the movie too, but I know its going to make money. So I didnt bought those theories.
Now all these CM hate channels are going to say Dan's paid by Disney.
Yup
They will spin it somehow.
It's not quite that simple, and its honestly the same with Captain Marvel fan videos. People were excited to see Captain Marvel succeed, so a lot of people ran with rumors that supported their hopes for the film.
@@shift7808 Whether you like the film and wanted it to succeed or were against it and wanted to see it fail, the truth is, it is doing very well.
@@RansomeStoddard Thats kind of irrelevant to the statement I made. I'm saying that fans/critics do the same thing.
@@shift7808 It is relevant because now it doesn't matter if people were putting a positive or negative spin on the movie because it has been out for several weeks and the numbers are the numbers. The fans/critics have no more power now than the haters. The film is a success. End of story. Is it the highest grossing film ever? No. Is it a stain on the MCU's legacy? No. It's just another notch in Marvel's belt as they prepare to introduce the world to the X-Men and FF done correctly.
Man listening to Dan talk numbers is so soothing to me. Thank you for putting facts and research out there!!
Respect to Dan for disproving the stupid myths and theories with respect and FACTS.
Most of this misinformation comes from UA-camrs who falsely think having a decent amount of subscribers somehow makes them more intelligent, yet those subs can't do nothing to improve their reading comprehension.
you are right. They are trying to manipulate people showing them irrelevant information like a drop betwen the first weekend and Monday. Pathethic
There are flat-earth channels with thousands and thousands of subscribers too.
Having a larger number of subscribers does not mean you are correct.
As for me there are comic oriented channels I've recently simply unsubscribed and stopped my patreon support too because they jumped onto the captain marvel conspiracy theories and push out of context data to push passing bs to their audience. There are still plenty of people though willing to be paid to be lied to.
This isn't anything new. other Conspiracy groups and Teleevagelists and other have been doing it for decades. And in the information age when any moron can put up a channel it has become even easier to get morons to network together to bilk out of money.
ScreenJunkies needs a new show of Dan just investigating and proving or debunking movie myths.
Shut up and take my free time!
This video should be titled: "Dan Murrell exposes Geeks and Gamers" LOL.
Screen Junkies, please take this suggestion seriously. Even if it wasn't a weekly show (we know Dan's a busy guy.) Once a month, quarterly, whatever - I would watch that show.
Yes to this!
"Screen Junkies: Myths buster" (patent pending)
This is the kind of thing i watch Screen Junkies for. Thanks Dan, every monday is a pleasure.
A lot of people have been saying that Tyrone Magnus needs to see this video. Well, people have tried and even brought it up in his anti captain marvel rants. To those who dont know who he is, he a strong conspiracy theorist who believes that Disney bought up the tickets for Captain Marvel. Here's the ironic part, he deletes any message that disagrees with him. So if you've went to one of his videos and brought it up and wondered why there was no response, from him or anyone, it's because he doesn't block you from seeing his videos. It appears that you're still able to comment and you even see your comment but others dont. This was brought to my attention when my nephew said he'd posted a link to Dan's video on one of Tyrone's rant videos and I didn't see it. So basically it makes it appear that when you disagree with him and dont receive any thumbs up that everyone thinks you're wrong and it he also censors the comments so to other people viewing it makes it appear that everyone agrees with him. It was brought up because we were talking about how disappointed we were in here in finding out he was such an insecure weak minded individual after being supporters of his for so long, going back to when he had less than 100,000 subscribers, even supporting him on other channels like Collider. People weren't attacking him, just trying to have an honest debate and give him facts and data on why he's wrong, like Dan said to do at 33:30. Also, so he'd stop spreading lies and misinformation around. I'm against bullying. If he had an opinion that people disagreed with then thats one thing but he has blatantly spread misleading information and lies around about Brie Larson and Captain America. Whether he liked the movie or didn't like it didn't matter, it was all about doing what Dan is now, trying to stop nonsense lies.
So if you have tried to educate Tyrone Magnus on the facts, you may see your comment but no one else does so thats why no one is responding to your comment or giving any thumbs up. One reason why he may believe Disney has done all this misleading stuff is because he does it himself, thats the ironic part of it. Now after finding this out I must say that he is an insecure whiny sexist pathetic uneducated loser who puts his hands over his ears so he doesn't have to learn the real data and facts. So he can live in his own little fantasy world. Now if a person wants to do that and they're not bothering anyone then thats fine but this guy Tyrone Magnus is a pathetic loser who after 3 weeks still wont let it go. It's a shame that Dan has to spend so much time disproving made up nonsense and providing research and facts on things that should be common sense just because people like him want to be immature hating trolls with agendas that dont want to hear the truth because they already know they're lying.
I criticized him about it and in 5 hours he blocked me and every other person who criticized him.
stopped to watch his videos a long time when he reacted to stuff of others unasked and not informed them so he got the money. Don't like how he pretends fan but has some shady stuff.
F him, i used to like him. But never subscribed. I question him when he said bvs is the best superhero movie ever and TLJ was the worst starwars.
And he cryng week after week for CM is just pathetic. And wont admit his mistake... Meh
He's also an anti-vax fuckwit
I unsubscribed too him about a month ago. The hodge twins too.
Keep doing this. It’s frightening how far those people go in trying to explain away the success of a movie that didn’t serve their world view I didn’t know that it had gotten so bad!
This is the best video I've ever seen Dan or Screen Junkies do. When you can break up "theories" with straight up facts, I will always be for that. Wish facts meant more across the board in society today. Excellent work!
This is one of the best charting with Dan episodes ever. Drop the mic DAN!!!
This is one of the most level-headed and necessarily elucidating videos on modern box office. Dan deserves an award for how he covers this.
Hah, technically SJU has got one!
At some points he actually seems pissed off! l love how passionate Dan gets w/ his numbers :P
He looks like hes holding back the urge to yell
To be fair he seems pissed off a lot. I think he's as frustrated as I am with this world. It's going to shit, and there is little that can be done to stop it. God knows he's trying with wonderful videos like this.
He's done an amazing job trying to contain himself. Never even used the word "alt right" once. If I had made a video, I'd just throw around words, yelling "incel" haha
You think - the lunacy about some dumb movie it's unheard off
Passionate about his numbers, and about truth and reason.
Did anyone else LIKE Captain Marvel because it was a fun time and made you laugh a few times (albeit mostly due to Goose)? I mean regardless of what my political viewpoints are, I refuse to let silly politics ruin my love for movies. Also people work on Monday folks, Monday drop-offs are good because it means the majority of peeps are employed...
SPMNDK89 not to mention, it means that most people went out to see the movie during the weekend and didn’t feel the need to go out again after being back to work in a Monday.
SPMNDK89 love the movie but what amaze me is my seven year love it actually went home telling her daddy how she like it and she normally sleeps through all movies no matter how good they are no matter what time I take her .....so far two movie she stay awake on was Jurassic Park and now Captain Marvel
It was fun and I did like it a lot. The start of the film was so so and I liked it more at the point she crashed into the blockbuster. Goose for the win! I want to see Rocket meet up with goose in a later film. Too many of these nerds had poured all their insecurities into shit Brie said or even didn't say.
Amen to that. All of it.
Yes, we made the 3 hour drive to to see CM because she had a disappointing experience at school. It really wasn’t really about the movie, although she loves the MCU, it was about creating a cherished memory and making sure she was o.k.
I expected box office news - what I got was a TED talk about objective truth, accountability and responsibility. Thanks Dan, and everyone at screenjunkies, you guys are the best
@I P Over the past two years I've seen NPR and PBS fail in this regard as well.
Better than the “completely unhinged from reality” fox news
@MJPK Then you apparently don't watch them..
Facts and logic are like a foreign language to the MAGA crowd... wait that’s just it! Facts and logic are foreign to them so they build a wall around their small minds to keep truth out. I guess that’s the only wall they can build since Mexico ain’t paying for squat.
Great video, Dan. I tried to carry on an argument with another UA-camr peddling the exact conspiracy that you addressed at the end. Tried to tell him that corporate accounting doesn't work like that and a publically traded company's books are constantly audited. It'd be difficult to impossible for Disney to hide 100+ million expenditure that would have gone into the "fake" box office. Furthermore, if Disney was going to pull a stunt like this, they would have done it for Solo and TLJ. Disney spent a ton more money on the SW IP and the success of those movies means more to Disney than one out of the 20+ MCU films.
Didn't go so well because I was automatically a Disney bot.
Frank Liu Well, that's the problem with those who peddle conspiracies. Any evidence you bring them that disproves their conspiracies is immediately denounced as fake and part of the conspiracy. And then they will claim you are are part of the conspiracy, or deluded. Because Science did a whole video explaining the twisted thinking of the conspiracy theorist.
I didnt like it but truth be told it was a success we can dislike it without making stories about it
If you're subscribed to channels or news sources that are spewing the myths that Dan just busted, maybe question your subscriptions to said places. If they're lying about this, what else are they lying to you about.
I'm not subscribed to said channels I can name 3 or 4 but I see them on my recommend list a lot ….most of them just did not like brie's comment and that’s the main issue …. But to make a video every day reporting the daily drop off in box-office seems a bit much ….but again they got recommended so who am I to judge?
@@nasraabdullah6935 UA-cam's algorithm really sucks. I clicked on "Not Interested" on those sensationalist videos, but they're still the next video in auto-play when I watch Captain Marvel-related content. It really is about clicks and views; nobody cares about the truth anymore.
@@nasraabdullah6935 I've got one channel that I'm seriously considering unsubscribing from after all this debacle. They've got hours of content talking about Larson's comments and even repeated the seat buying conspiracy theory (though they categorized it as a rumor).
I didn't like this movie. I feel like I'm spending too much time listening to people talk about how bad it is. UA-cam's algorithm really needs to get better.
I think your comment combined with Dan's mention of how outrage really drives clicks on the internet really hits on something important. When you've got channels that are more or less driven by angry rants, then take a step back and consider that maybe all they're interested in is feeding that machine. They don't care about facts, they just care about what's going to drive more clicks. And even if they're lying, that'll drive clicks because it goes against the grain of reality. They can pull the "I'm the only one that's willing to tell you the truth" nonsense.
@@stickkman by any chance is it Midnight's Edge? I have a love/hate relationship with that channel. Sometimes they seem to be spot on with their videos and other times they're just stirring the pot to get their followers riled up.
I'm only 6 minutes in and just have to say thank you Dan. Thank you for being the voice of reason and providing cold hard facts to shut down these trolls. It's just ridiculous how they're STILL trying to spin this movie as a massive disaster. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
*almost done with the video, sees that only 5 minutes left*
"Holy shit, I forgot this was still going!" Maybe I'm just numb to Dan Rants at this point. I don't know why people are so intent on slandering this movie. I mean, I KNOW why people do it, but I don't understand why people think their attitude toward it is justified. Grown-ass adults seem to still believe that girls have cooties or some bullshit like that.
Critical thinking with Dan. Insightful video, keep up the great work.
This is why I love Dan! He cares about the facts.
I'm just gonna copy this url, it'll save me lot of typing
Too bad this video is only 36mins. I mean, watching Dan deconstruct all the haters & trolls tinfoil conspiracy theories. I disagreed with Dan’s review of CM but I 💯 agree with him on this video.
Sadly, the people who should watch this video will never learn anything from it. Common sense isn’t something they have. The worst part, the false reporting and misinformation is believed by many blindly.
Ita almost as if thousands upon thousands of people went to see a movie to enjoy the movie. Go figure.
Thank you Dan. You're truthfulness and honesty are very much appreciated.
Terry Pratchett observed that many people have a unique capacity to question things said by an expert, but will believe _anything_ told them by some bloke down the pub.
Really appreciate the video, not just because you're telling it straight and using logic to debunk a lot of misinformation out there, but also because you refrained from name-calling and insulting whole groups of people you don't know, (unlike so many other UA-camrs I could mention...).
There are all kinds of people out there with a lot of biases, and a lot of different reasons for those biases. And when these people get into groups there tends to be a so much shouting and screaming at 'opposing factions' that often they can't hear anyone else outside of their own echo chamber. The best way to get through to people is to just sit down, chillax, and talk on the level. When you put it across in a way that doesn't threaten another person's ego, it's a lot easier to get them to think more rationally and see reason.
You know what Dan has, INTEGRITY!!! And that's why we love watching 😀
He did not even like the film. He is going to be called a shill in certain quarters, anybody who watches him knows he is fair and speaks things how he see it. Even when i disagree with his opinion on a film i trust he speaks honestly from his point of view.
Well said! I disagreed with his review, but I trust his integrity. That's why I come back.
@@Oxmustube yeah, I did agree with the review, but the fact the he went to bat for a movie he didn't even recommend for the sake of the truth is how a mature person looks at the world. I wish more people would see this video and learn.
Vojislav Medic Take a quick look at some of those fake news sites and their echo chambers and you will soon see that it won't happen. Being a misanthrope like me means that I am rarely disappointed. Dan being the exception.
@@Oxmustube hahah yep you're right, some people are hopeless 😂
Wow, this clip definitely helped me with understanding numbers and UA-camrs who are rooting for Captain Marvel to fail.
they are just doing it for clicks, views , subs and when they go live. Super Chats! It's the flavor of the last couple months. I wonder what will be next.
@@chadcrypto2675 Next is probably Star Wars IX
@@1monki oh shit...
@@chadcrypto2675 I dont think its just because of clicks and views. We cant pretend a lot of those channels and accounts don't have political reasons for hating a female lead super hero franchise that has an out spoken actress as the main character. They need this film to be a failure to prop up their world view. The fact that they've been reduced to such bizarre conspiracy theories when it didnt speaks volumes.
@@BaronVonLethal I think it has more to do with the people praising this movie for political reasons only and the main actress saying stupid stuff 27/7
Similar story to Black Panther tbh.
Dan: Facts and logic
Haters: ScREen JUnKieS iS a ProPERty of DIsnEy
@mxt mxt
Yeah let's believe the far fetched conspiracy theories
@mxt mxt Are you actually insane? Disney is in the business of making money, they are not in the business of making fake money.
@mxt mxt So you admit to being stupid ("...also stupid?") and use the auto industry, something that is nowhere near close to movie industry, aside from branding I suppose, to give you some sense of credibility (reaching much). Interestingly enough I saw another of your kind (maybe it was also you) who attempted to downgrade the MCU's accumulated box office profits, an impressive achievement that took 10+ years to achieve, by comparing it to the real estate industry, saying that people in the real estate business make loads more money in a single year than the entirety of the MCU has. News flash, everyone is going to need a car OR real estate deals down the line, sooner or later, because they have become necessities in today's era. The only thing that has kept Hollywood afloat these past 10 years is the MCU. Only now are they getting decent competition from WB and Sony with hits such as Aquaman, Spiderverse, Godzilla, Pokemon and so on. Keep denying CM's success all you want but the truth is that you are grasping at straws here. Take this as you will.
@mxt mxt dadadidididadududidadududu ahhhhhh a bucket of male tears tasty
@mxt mxt If I listened to so called reviewers that said a movie was bad I would have missed many that I enjoyed. The worst movie I ever went to see was one that reviewers were raving about, I found it boring.
George Carlin once said it wasn’t enough to teach children to read, but to question what they read.
This was amazing Dan, keep up the good work.
First time I've come across your channel, and I never leave comments on anything but..... Really really well done. Great breakdown of the numbers, strategies, and what they mean to the business aspect of film making.
Respect!
Welcome. If your a fan of movie and intelligent discussion you will love the channel.
Thanks Dan! I'm sick of Midnight's Edge acting like impartial reporters when they're really misogynists twisting facts to manipulate people's behavior.
They are also doing live shows with the incel haters on UA-cam as well. They lost all respect
Yeah, I started following them during the Ghostbusters 2016 thing because frankly that was a pile of very superficial and largely fake feminism. Yes, obviously Disney is a Capitalist company and they require profits, but they have been hiring some decent people with an actual substantial message and not just cocky attitudes and catchy platitudes.
I started to get the sense that Midnight's Edge were catering to an anti-feminist audience when they kept saying Kathleen Kennedy was going to be fired due to Solo which, yeah it was a bad movie, but that's a ridiculous assertion to make. Her batting average has slipped a little in the last decade or so but you're talking about a Producer with a legendary career. I'm really sick of Midnight's Edge now. Also their Facebook group is Very Toxic.
Dan’s a real one. Captain Marvel wasn’t his favorite movie but he’s still out here making quality content with the TRUTH. Luv ya dude.
I am glad somebody is. I don't like the movie myself and I have a lot of beef with it, but the lies being pushed by the by these other group with a clear agenda. It is becoming way too common for all us to get bombarded with the lies these groups are trying to push. It becomes really worrisome when you consider how many people are believing them and trying to stir up controversy where there is none.
@@Rostifurd both of you said it well.
@Ross Hetzel It should be obvious they're pushing an agenda, it shouldn't even be something to figure out.
@@Rostifurd The critical Captain Marvel videos spread a lot of rumors around, but they have no "agenda". Their intention isn't a secret or concealed. They're attempting to spread awareness ABOUT agendas, and some times rumors get started.
The controversy is that there's a pattern involved in hijacking things that males care deeply about and turning it into something that spits in the faces of existing fans, and portrays a really desperate form of feminism where its really forced and in your face, constantly, inescapable. It's a political statement disguised as something else. That's an agenda.
@@shift7808 Not disagreeing or agreeing, I don't know enough about your viewpoint, but how did any of that apply to Captain Marvel? I've read Captain Marvel comics off and on since it was a Kree man, and had never considered it a feminist move when Danvers took up the mantle a few years ago, just a logical step in the characters arc based on both characters' history. I didn't notice a ton of feminism in the actual movie either, certainly not forced or in your face. If the criticism continues past release to the point of fabricating conspiracies about ticket fraud or ignoring factual data about sales just to fit a narrative...well certainly not all but at least some of the anti captain marvel crowd(I didn't even know there was an anti captain marvel crowd...) is definitely pushing an agenda.
Dan, you are far kinder to these people than they honestly deserve. You are a better person than I am.
I'm glad someone like you has a platform to address something like this. I've grown so tired of all the sensationalist garbage out there, I've been gradually disconnecting from social media.
Who'd have thought, more people go to the movies on the weekend than on weekdays/nights.
@I Identify as a Dragon Yes, well you have to hop into their mentality to understand why they went with a Monday number. They started off the pre-release narrative of the movie bombing, then when it did not bomb on opening they predicted it would hit in reviewership subsequently. The first number tehy get is the Monday viewership drop figure. This number appears high in the 70%... so it looks large, so they use this to give to tehir audience to show their right. That is pretty much all the thought that went in to it. There was no concern if the number was actually high... it just had to look high from a contextless view that the person can just insert the context they want into.
Dan, don't ever change. Thank you for your reason, moderation and integrity. And for the record, I didn't like the movie.
Notice how controversy like this happens on movies with female leads. Ghostbusters, and now marvel's first female lead character.
The classroom title for this would be : "The Importance of Critical Thinking and Objective Truth in the 21st Century" Thanks, Dan!
I've been paying attention to movie box office for like 35 years ever since Entertainment Tonight first went on the air. And I've never heard of anyone paying attention to a mivies' Monday numbers.
@Robert Grant THE NUTCRACKER AND THE FOUR REALMS get 34% fresh on Rottentomatoes.
@Robert Grant wrinkle in time, the nutcracker, solo. FU
@Robert Grant Most mainstream movies are mediocre
, not just Disney.
@Robert Grant Really? I just checked IMDB's Advanced Search feature and here are just some of the high-profile Disney movies from 2010 through the present that critics did not like (being categorized as "red" or "yellow" by Metacritic): A Wrinkle in Time; The Nutcracker and the Four Realms; The Sorcerer's Apprentice; I Am Number Four; Cars 2; Alice Through the Looking Glass; Oz the Great and Powerful; The Lone Ranger; Tomorrowland; Alice in Wonderland; John Carter; Prince of Persia; Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Men Tell No Tales; TRON Legacy; Cars 3; Maleficent; Thor: The Dark World; Real Steel; Christopher Robin.
To expand on this, from the year 2000 through the present, there have been 144 Disney-related movies with a "red" or "yellow" Metacritic rating and 102 "green". ~58% bad versus ~41% good, according to critics. By comparison, from the year 1900 through the year 1999, there were 80 red and yellow, and there were 80 green. 50% to 50%. So the new millennium has actually seen critics get harder on Disney?
Or maybe there's no conspiracy and critics just say what they personally think. =]
@Robert Grant The last Jedi was weird, and unexpected to most people, like it or not.
Solo on the other hand, was definition of mediocre.
This is the kind of content we need more of on UA-cam. I’ve watched a lot of captain marvel discussion videos and it’s incredibly refreshing to see a logical, unbiased perspective from a man who didn’t even really like the movie. Calling out clickbait headlines and unreliable sources, making the distinction between truth and perception based on biased media. Great video 👌🏼
Dan, you were not ranty or long-winded, you were a joy to listen to, as usual, because you were logical, intelligent and just plain awesome. Thank you for that!
“I don’t have access to Disney’s books and records...”
But Scoops McGee does!
Thanks for your work, Dan!
That's cause Scoops McGee is paid by Disney 😮
Speaking as an English teacher who spends an INORDINATE amount of time trying to explain to my students how to weigh various information sources: THANK YOU for that section of the video above all.
Must be fun being a UA-cam "journalist" these days.
All you need is:
A. Find something people are angry about.
B. Make a minimum 10 minutes video quoting unconfirmed information you found or made up rumors.
C. Give it a clickbait title and eye-catching thumbnail.
D. Let the clicks and ad revenue come in.
E. Never release a correction or apology because who cares, you already got paid and spread a little more hatred in the world.
Thank you Dan for being an island of sanity in this crazy industry sea.
You just described Geeks & Gamers
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 oh yeah XD that was cancer
@kkaradin I was not talking about Dan. I literally thanked him for being an island of sanity in a crazy filled media sea.
I was talking about all the bombastic click bait videos and half baked articles that exist only to spread rumors and shift the nerative to what they see fit or just make money out of ignorance of gullible people. Facts don't matter to them and there is no accountability.
Thank you for the sanity. I have been watching reviewers I really respect lose their minds over this movie. Awesome job!
Dan DESTROYS false reporting with facts and logic
God Dan is so good at this. I love seeing a cohost but I didn’t mind learning about these myths for a half hour. I watch every Monday and this is truly interesting. Big fan of Dan calling fact from fiction and giving Captain Marvel credit where it is due
In searching for this weeks Charting with Dan I found this one that I had missed. Dan, you are amazing....thank you for all you've said. It's so important to understand! Just because something is 'said', 'tweeted', or whatever, doesn't make it true. Love this! Thanks!!!!! Amen, amen, amen!
Thank you for watching!
Who goes to the movies on Monday? People trying so hard to downplay this movie that now we care about Monday's. Watch 5 weeks from now oh look captain marvel only made 5 million this weekend total failed 95% drop from opening weekend lol
Truth. My days are Thursday night for major releases that hold my interest (the MCUs, mainly), and Saturday or Sunday for regular viewing (typically in the afternoon, because matinee is cheaper). Occasionally if I have a day off in the middle of the week there MIGHT be a weekday viewing, but usually it's just those.
Indeed. They're just trying to cherry-pick facts to make their predictions look better or trying to smear the movie. It's kind of sad. However, it's very frustrating at the same time.
I sometimes go on mondays to avoids crowds. though I always go early shows with the big movies.
exactly nobody is going to the movies with their family on a Monday 😂😂 everybody knows Monday is the day of the week that us humans dread the most so why the hell would we feel like going into a loud ass movie theatre on a monday lol
Chad Crypto I’m the same, mostly. Friday at noon or as close to it, specifically to avoid crowds and that I am able to go during the day during the week. Failing that, then Monday or Tuesday... unless I’m really nervous about spoilers. I was actually surprised at the number of kids in the Friday noon IMAX viewing I went to.
Dan destroys trolls with facts and numbers.
BIG mad 😂😂😂
the amount of sensationalized Captain Marvel and Brie Larson videos i've seen on thumbnails have been so frustrating. This factual based opinion/discussion was super refreshing. Thank you.
The most annoying thing about them is that UA-cam's adjusted algorithm has now broken the search function.
Unfortunately, they’re still doing the sensationalized Brie Larson videos. For people that hate her so much, they keep talking about her a lot. If they really want to make her irrelevant, ignore her.
Thanks for this. Was seeing the Monday Drop-off copy pasted in arguments on some frothy youtube comment sections.
redsands1001 It got so annoying I had to stop watching anything to do with Captain Marvel because all it was just a bashing session on the movie.
Great show Dan. Fact checking is a skill we all need to work on in the age of social media.
Steve Shannon A
Don't normally watch this channel, not because I dislike it but because I never discovered it but just want to say thank you for making this video. Its hard to watch so many things anymore because of how "toxic" the internet can be. Why do people need this movie to fail? I just don't understand it. How does this movie succeeding or failing even impact them. It boggles my mind.
The truth is, most of the people with conspiracy theories, don't want to know the truth. I was surprised that Tyrone Magnus jumped on the article about the huge plunge on the Monday after. People just want their own view supported, even if it's with a lie or deceptive stories. I don't care if people like or hate CM ( if they've seen it) but it's bogus and dishonest to pass lies around as truth, particularly UA-camrs who have the ears of tens of thousand of people.
Dan, I appreciate that you did his video. Truth is always preferably to alternative facts.
Tyrone..... He recorded the highly requested Childish Gambino - This is America reaction that a big part of his supporters wanted to know the opinion of on his backup account and his "reaction" is just blank stare and says at the end he has no opinion wanting to stay out of politics.... Comment section you see people call him out as being exactly what the part near the end says about getting money. He uploaded it there obviously to avoid getting his more white conservative subscribers angry and leave. Captain Marvel videos have been uploaded boom boom boom by him not afraid to give his 2 cents on this which has obviously turned very political. I unsubbed for seeing how he's exploited it for clicks... Reacting to everything before it came out even rotten tomatoes so he's full of shit about saying he went in with an unbiased mindset. "Get your money, black man" - Childish Gambino.
Married2TheReal are actually REAL with their spoiler review and say it like it is when it comes to where the negativity comes from ua-cam.com/video/4EWmDIMhrxg/v-deo.html
I'll tell you, I watch a lot of movie and game review/analysis shows. Cinema and gaming are my passions. And I'm not one to normally "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" a UA-cam video. If I like something...I just say to myself that I liked it and move on. But this is the first video in 2 years that I've taken the time to give a thumbs up, comment on doing so, and shared on my personal Facebook review page. I appreciate Dan for doing this. My only regret is that he can't clone himself and do a video like this for every movie I've ever loved that was killed by bad, incorrect or hateful press.
Thank you Dan. Thank you Screen Junkies. I hope that your channel prospers until the heat-death of the universe.
I unsubscribed from the quartering cuz the dude was milking this false narrative bashing this movie. Dude literally made over 11 videos on the topic.
HistorySkate he is a handjob
Good for you, thevquarting is a perfect example of the types of channels that put out "data" to support thier "anti sjw/woke" agenda.
Never liked him since he exposed Angry Joe to alt right non gamers with click bait and out of context headlines.
trisha Hernz I hear he got punched in the face, can’t say I’m disappointed.
Didn't he get exposed by Mr. Metokur?
The way he opened the video made me feel like getting my pen and paper and start taking notes.
OMG I had the damn same feeling...i was oh its Professor Dan time to take notes
I always love charting with Dan, but this has to be one of my favourite videos ever. Thanks Dan!
Wow, people are grasping at straws. Anything to diss a movie that's doing just fine as a MCU movie (which means it's doing spectacularly for a film). As usual, whenever it's a female entertainer/star/etc in the hot seat, people give it WAY more scrutinization and actively *look* for reasons to hate it rather than just give it the same neutral watch that they'd give something not starring a woman.
That's not true I hated solo I thought was a stupid cringass movie.
The only reason it makes money is because its riding off the momentum of the MCU. If it was a standalone movie like Supergirl, it would have flopped too.
Except we dont? We dont care who takes the hot seat. But if the movie is bad, its bad lol. Man, woman, trans, gay who ever is in the protagonist role, it doesnt matter, if the movie is bad, its bad.
So true. I've never seen this level of pettiness to destroy a movies success because they didn't like the lead. The amount of videos that were made about CM before it was even released was insane. They were grasping at straws and they failed spectacularly
Buying 25 tickets per theater to boost the opening 10%... that’s MoviePass math. 😂
If Disney buys tickets, they have to be covering concessions. Movie theaters would be pissed if they lose their popcorn money from 25 seats per showing.
@Chiriac Puiu if this was happening, most movie theaters would notice that they had a slow day on concessions for how many people bought tickets. And that's assuming they didn't notice the empty theaters themselves or the theaters selling out online but no one coming to pick up the tickets.
@Chiriac Puiu Y'all trolls picked a dumb hill to die on months ago and ya got smoked the last two weeks and just won't stop, but that's ok, keep catchin those L's like a good boy 😂😂
Chiriac Puiu go home and cry to ur mama. Oh wait you hate her.
Chiriac Puiu Sure, I bet Brie is sitting in her mansion crying into wads of money because a few irrelevant people like you who couldn’t even hurt CM box office hurt her feelings.
This video needs to be seen by everyone using social media!
*Context is Key*
It was the biggest thing my Great-Grandfather pushed into me.
the 64 people who disliked this are the ones who made the videos and articles that Dan is talking about
also I would/have watched videos of Dan talk numbers
Found the triggered mayo
Thanks! I'm sharing this will all my Facebook friends because it states what I've been raging about for the last month!
Thank you, Dan! Love this show (and its audience! How often do we see such polite comments? So refreshing!). And I love how sensible and fair you are. You disliked the movie, but still took the time to set the record straight about its box office. It's amazing how a lot of what you said should be obvious and yet people choose to believe in clickbait-y fake news.
If anything, those people just made an even bigger fool of themselves
I didn't even think it was possible, but anti-sjw morons just keep on surprising me with their hypocrisy
Revan Ruler Ha, you don't even know how moronic they are (like main complaints of new She-Ra were changes to the main lore even though they didn't change it). There has to be some mental issues/deflections in order to be such losers: www.reddit.com/r/moviescirclejerk/comments/az2a66/i_dont_care_about_captain_marvel_geeksgamers/
People unironically watch these videos rabbidly and then claim they are righteous because some losers on the internet said they have to dislike a movie.
Anti-SJWs are the biggest SJWs, change my mind.
I still hate Captain Marvel and I'm proud that I cheered for the film to tank. And I will stick by that to the end.
Just because it didn't tank doesn't mean it *should* have.
@@xamhehehe7888 So proud of you. Way to go!
@@xamhehehe7888 Nobody:
Xam: "I still hate CM."
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Xam: "Just because it didn't tank doesn't mean it *should* have."
Also Xam: *"I cheered for the film to tank."*
Thanks Dan! This is a great example of responsible journalism. I really wish Captain Marvel had been better, but there have really been some wild claims made about it and I really appreciate the in depth fact check.
Thank you for this. Personally I loved the movie but I'm glad that even though you didn't like it, you can still be objective about this topic. Hopefully this changes some minds and makes people more critical about the sources they're using to get facts about these things and they can stop spreading these lies. Great video :)
That's why I always double check the source of any informations, especially for comics/movies news. I'm tired of that group of people spewing their racist and misogynist views and alternative facts. I'm so thankful for people like you Dan! Keep up the good work 👍
just because their views dont agree with you does not mean its not factual
I literally ask one guy to provide a source for the 750M break even and when he showed me the Deadline article and pointed out that it wasn’t saying what he thought it said he proceeded to deflect.
numbers don't lie, people do
The voice of reason in this shitstorm we call internet.
Dan this video was great. Like you I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, but the way people are spinning the stories and the narrative around this film is ridiculous.
I'm so tired of every major release having some sort of controversy around it and then that being blown up by crap blogs and websites trying to get clicks.
It seems that people can't accept that it was a mediocre average film on both sides - "white dude" youtubers completely hating on the film just cus of Brie Larson and left wing media praising this movie as amazing just cus of feminist messages and female lead. Why can't we just take out politics and accept the movie for what it is - an entertaining film with strong performances from Jackson and Mendelssohn and a weak main character that didn't have enough flaws and a mediocre performance from Brie Larson.
@@jeremypcleung I'd argue it was poor directing for Larson. Some scenes she is great, others I'd agree she is mediocre. I don't put a lot of stock in oscars or any awards, but generally terrible actors don't win those.
I still thought the movie as a whole was great.
@@SilortheBlade i dont know if it was directing or Larson herself but her snarky attitude sort of bleeds into her character whereas you can really feel the humility and righteousness in Captain America even though he has super strength and stuff. don't know who to blame except that the character wasn't quite likeable although I enjoyed performances from Jackson and Mendelsohn