This Old House | Pro2Pro: How to Properly Install a Window
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2019
- During a recent shoot at our Westerly project, Tom Silva taught two of our apprentices how to properly install a window. First, he covered his method for prepping the rough opening. Then he showed them how to hang the window so that it is level, plumb, and square. Once the window was hung, he illustrated how to flash it properly to create a watertight seal. On Friday, May 24th at 11am EST, we’ll premiere this 30-minute video with Tom Silva and a Marvin installation technician answering your questions, live!
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Throughout his career Tommy has peeled away a lot of siding in this area only to find rot from years of water damage, which is why he’s a firm believer in this kick-out style flashing. He’s seen it on doors and below windows.
"Throughout his career Tommy blablabla, yada yada yada" Stop! You're silly! Knock knock, who's there? SHHHHHHH, shut it! Look ma I'm on UA-cam, I have a job with This Old House yapping about my idol... Get a hold of yourself! You're annoying. Jesus!
@@Order-in-Chaos so don't watch it.
Order in Chaos
Why are you such a clown???
@@BrianBriCurInTheOC Being a clown is way, way better than being a brown-nose.
@@ABog-mz1hs Bog the commanding authority from behind a keyboard. Bog the keyboard Nazi.
Legend has it every window that Tommy installs will give heat in the winter and cool air in the summer.
Eric recommends using roofing nails. If using 2” roofing nail, every other hole; with 1-3/4” roofing nail, every hole. Tommy says: why roofing nail? Because the head is flatter so it won’t interfere with trim once it’s installed.
This Old House - my drywallers use roofing nails if installing board with pneumatics. Less overdriving, less tearing, better hold, and no buildup. Two thumbs up!
Did they nail in the bottom nailing flange? If they did it is not shown. If they didn’t it is not water nor air tight. Please clarify for us if you can
Tommy never messes around when it comes to sealing and flashing windows.
wonder which cost the most, the window or the tape?
@@jerryhubbard4461 Yes. LOL
Legend has it Tommy is still wrapping that window today
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Make it nice or do it twice…
my uncle who has been a carpenter in the UK for decades reulary watches this old house to learn how to install using the new techniques for timber housing as we have only recently really started to embrace this form of housing and he likes to learn about the ways you insulate and prevent moisture ingress , and of course tarrmy is his favorite !!
Just amazing! I wish all the contractors and installers were as immaculate and caring as Mr. Tommy; he ALWAYS does it PERFECT! What a gem full of knowledge and wisdom.
I would love for TOH to do a series on window replacements, especially when the home is not being resided. To many window replacement contractors don’t provide adequate flashing and weather proofing.
Gr8 M9ds Agreed!!
The do it on purpose save penny to make thousand in repair I. The future hahahaha because the warranty of tha windows expire .. it's the so call do business
So true. I can't find ANYTHING on this on UA-cam. What I read on GreenBuildingAdvisor in the comments is to treat the outer surface of the old siding as if it's the building paper surface.
This particular task is a good depiction of how drastically building standards can change. It’s awesome to think how well this will prevent water entry, but at the same, it took 3 sets if hands 30 minutes do to this (1-1/2 hours total just to flash and install the window). If you’re spending this kind of time on this, then adding the time to spray foam, trim the inside, trim the outside, flash the trim, and all of the materials, you’re in to some huge money to do just one window. It’s an ongoing predicament in my head. We spend all this time and money taking things to the Nth degree, yet there are still houses all over New England with 100 year old windows, no modern vapor barriers, and no rot has started in the wall. The old timers had something figured out. Meanwhile, just the other day I pulled out some 30 year old windows at a client’s house and the flexible adhesive flashing membranes were all cracked and flaking anyway. I am inclined to try and convince clients that it’s worth using the best possible installation method, but every time I hand them a bill for a few thousands dollars to install a couple windows I always wonder if all this fancy stuff is going too far.
The predicament seems, to me at least, that the old timers left ample space for houses to "breath". Even if moisture did get into spaces, those space would naturally dry out quickly. This had the obvious downside of being energy inefficient, but oil was cheap back then. Insulating old homes usually means sacrificing airflow. Modern homes can be designed to incorporate good airflow and insulation, but that adds to cost, and old homes aren't being redesigned, they're being upgraded piece by piece, and upgrading insulation doesn't always mean taking into account the airflow physics. So it's complicated because the benefits of insulation bring the complications of changing the physiology of old home construction.
Training always takes longer when done correctly. Once someone gets the rhythm, they'll be able to crank em out. (Pun intended.)
Same with wood floors on a raised home. If you put a vapor barrier between the sub floor and the real wood floor moisture will rot the top of the sub floor. In the old houses the wood floor planks were the only floor, allowing the floor to breath.
Survivor bias, most old houses have rotted and collapsed.
i would assume this would be a 2 person job and there were 3 hands for the sake of training video.
Tommy says that you always separate materials - because everything expands and contracts differently having a membrane in between the flange and wood allows everything to move in its own way.
I would love to spend a week working for Tommy. I don't care if I am just getting him coffee! as long as I can be around to listen and watch!!!!!! TOH: MAKE THIS HAPPEN! :D
I am constantly researching upcoming projects because no matter how long you have been doing this there are always new tips and tricks and sometimes codes that help do the best job you can do . Love this old house , tommy is my hero
Nice job guys. This is why I love American houses. Here in Italy we use lot of cement all over the place. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Italy
Tommy has alot of patience.
Tommy and Eric like to have at least 1/2” around the window for shimming and insulation
Also...FINALLY ATOH has a person designated to respond to comments and also handle social media. Great job guys keeping up with the times and technology!!!!
i hope at some point science can download knowledge from a persons brain i would hate to see Tom's know how to be gone i have watched this old house for many years and i keep learning from him and the rest of the team would have loved to be an apprentice under his guidance.
Best window install video on UA-cam. No unnecessary talk quick to the point and very informative.
MATT RISINGER DOES THE BEST WINDOW VIDEOS ON UA-cam
I don't think I'll look any further. No offense to Matt... If this isn't the best; it's good enough for me! He's evidently doing this for wood shingle siding so I get it with the watertight aspect. Tom Silva is the definitive expert or Master Craftsman. Not the only one out there; I get that too.
Love this style of videos, Uncut.
Excellent. It is all about taking pains to do every necessary step correctly. Good to learn. Good to know.
I'm pretty sure when they built my house in 1970 they did the part about putting the window into the hole. I think they probably skipped the other steps
My homes front door is rotted from Exactly this not being done.
@@kristianfairchild7774 your front door is also probably about 1000 years old.
One follow up I was living in Boston when Norm and Bob did the first show, some folks on your show were not born yet.
Great job! As a guy living in the hometown of Marvin, I love to see this exposure!
I'm pretty sure these guys already know more then the fools that built the house i'm in now. Nice job guys you are working with the best keep up the good work.
oh hell yeah i would kill to get this crew to fix my old house up because the same fools that built your house built mine and it sucks man
Same fools got me too
Yay!!! Finally some new content. I've already watched all their older videos.
Oh man, if everyone only got a teacher like that to start us out.
Tom, id like to thank you for all the detail explanation.. best video i have seen, the care with every detail is a proof of the type of professional you are.. the best..
I just love this couple. Very willing and ready together! That's how its done!
I agree with you Greg Purdy my house built in the 60s they just crammed the windows in the hole.
I am a window and door installer in Florida we do things a little different down here love the vycor products most of my openings are masonry lots of tap cons
That window is so airtight, not even oxygen is getting through. Pretty sure the glass is more porous.
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Get those window installation questions ready for Tommy! I’ve got Tom Silva and Marvin’s installation trainer Eric Klein standing by, ready and waiting to hear from *you* -TOH Pro2Pro Editor Chris Ermides
My question is how soon can you guys come over to install some windows at my house?
Great demonstration by Tommy, would love to have him give me some tips for my home.
Being from the UK, it's crazy to me to see an external wall being constructed from OSB.
Osb is made for exterior now
28:03 When Mama is baking an apple pie and she tells you to go outside until it's ready
Lol
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1:24 Tommy is using roofing nails here to nail in the clapboard to the sill
Why does he still use a clapboard? I work in window manufacturing. Our sills slope to the outside. Is that not commonplace for other manufacturers?
Great job, Tommy. Forgot your roller for the adhesive flashing 😂😂😂
Helping a friend through his windows soon, not only is this the most trusted Channel but this is the most informative video I have seen. Much appreciated, thank you for your time
There is only one Tom Silva!!! Master.
Looking to get new windows in a few years. I was considering installing them myself. That consideration is now out the window! I can’t measure straight enough. I will have my contractor do it.
That sweet accent from Massachusetts!
Go Patriots!
If you think this is overkill, than watch Build Show by Matt Risinger. I applaud these guys for applying scientific principles to make our homes more efficient. Id hire them in a minute to build my house!
Wow! I watched many videos before this one getting ready to replace old window in my old house. This one is the best - The amount of attention to details and absolute perfection are impressive! My old 1965th house does not have wrap and probably insulation either, but has old siding. And the house settled on one corner and is not square or leveled anywhere. Then what to do in real life with a real old window in a real old house?
This Manis like a magician he comes up with differentthings
I can see Tom screaming inside his head wanting to tell the home owners”forget it, I will do it myself !” 2,000 years later, they are done with the first window! 1 down, 29 more to go!
I like the zip stretchable flashing, It's a neat idea. Otherwise go for a copper or lead flashing detail. My big concern with all of these adhesive based products (zip included) is that it will fail from adhesive failure in a decade or so.
My concern too. Will the plastics get brittle or melt? On the Dorchester house as well as one of the Andy Tiplady builds they used sweated copper. That's probably exponentially more expensive and labour intensive.
@@mrpiccolo23 I doubt it, Its like a rubber sheeting, It will probably get less malleable so it would break i moved, but since its just fixed in place- and shielded from Uv rays I think it should be fine for the 20-40 years the siding will be up.
Give that women props driving nails with tommy ! I would have been so nervous I would miss the nail! A dream come true but nervous for sure
Sorry for the typo! Hope I didn’t ruin your day.
May be easier to use the ZIP tape for the sides and top flashing pieces .... ZIP tape is expensive but can eliminate user error for DIY'ers, etc. Great Job Tommy!
I love this old house.
don't you just love paper backed adhesive strips, Thanks Tom Nice job
That dude inside still holding the flat bar the whole time. LOL
Looking forward.Thanks.
Ten years later, half the windows might be installed... I was gonna' guess the house was in the middle of a rain forest but it's looks a bit on the chilly side. Still gotta' love these videos! Thanks!
Ladies & gentlemen, that is how you build a submarine.
Lol
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I though this was funny half way thru. By the end of video, you should either not bothered with cutting a hole for the window or use a pain of glass cause i dare not open the window at all.
The guy on the inside just stood there looking.... Lol
Carlos Vladymir looking like a fool. Come out and learn
He is inside guy only
nice observation dude, i would be scared if tommy was teaching me
Al Delgado I was raised by a drill sergeant. Tommy wouldn’t strike any fear in me. All he could do is fire me.
Casey C sorry to hear that dude
Tommy nailed it again
For the taper, just tap up the sill framing and install a wedge. Much faster and you don’t need some odd part like a clapboard or risk damaging the tyvek
"Clapboard", thank you! I replayed it several times and couldn't tell what he was saying.
Just did my first window install. Thanks to you guys at This Old House!👍
Rule 1: You can never have too much flashing around those windows.
You can if its not done right. I like the zip stretchable flashing, Its a neat idea. Otherwise go for a copper or lead flashing detail. My concern with all of these adhesive based products (zip included) is that it will fail from adhesive failure in a decade or so.
@@ozziesheppard17 in my opinion if you properly use the aluminum drip cap with proper tape on the sides and of coarse the flextape on the sil you should have no problems at all . Call does fail over time if your not using the best. I myself use Lexel. It's the best I have ever found , nothing compares .
Ozzie Sheppard
There are some really new rubber STICK ON products like He used on the bottom that high end installers use completely around the opening.
I believe the very BEST PRODUCT TO USE is the Liquid Applied PROSOCO.
prosoco.com/
MATT RISINGER USING PROSOCO LIQUID APPLIED BARRIER PRODUCTS ON WINDOW INSTALL...
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Just a thought, something I found in an old house build circa 1930. When they installed the windows, stick built them if you will. They used copper sheets in a step flashing method. Then they had tar on top of the flashing, on all 4 sides. Of course the sill was canted and had a drip groove on the bottom.. When we opened the wall for the addition, the only damage was from terrormites. The amazing part was it was on the western exposure so that side gets the bulk of the wind and rain..
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Matt Risinger uses a 5 degree angle on the bottom sill and he recommends flashing but ESPECIALLY PROSOCO or a couple of the liquid applied products. Then Adhesive/sealants around the whole sill. The window is sealed with sealer/adhesive, except the bottom because you want the water to drain out on the 5 degree cant.
Can you show us the proper area to measure for a new window? Also, when measuring I will assume this applies for a sliding Marvin patio door as well?
My windows say to cut house wrap flush with opening. Thoughts?
Well I'll take the old windows any day of the week with a little draft, thats Beer im talking about !!! Tommy one hell of a carpenter ...
Nice job, which every window installers out there care this much.
Price of window=$500,price of caulking and flashing=$150,tommy teaching=priceless
That’s some expensive caulk and rubber
I think it's hilarious that for like a third of this video the dude's just standing inside looking around, staring out the window watching his wife work.
How do you know is his wife?
Lol
this man is a genius
Great teacher!
Hey love your work keep it up love seeing you guys helping people out.👍👍
Man im gonna say this was a excellent educational video. I enjoyed every movement of involvement from the two guest and host. Silva made me nervous he doesnt cut the blade flashing away from him sometimes. Level, square and plumb was awsome. This video was in unity watching the participation and hammer pounding those galvanized roofing nails. 1 1/4 #8?
Thank you for this feedback! Tommy is using 2" roofing nails here. -- TOH Pro2Pro Editor Chris Ermides
Very good, more please.
Nice it’s like a rest house style your house
Excellent job that’s the way it should be
28:07 my dude like, “easy money! All day every day!”
Tommy you are the best! Thanks for teaching us a lot! I have build my veranda to your guidelines for everything! Russians are in shock, lol.
Can you make a video of how to isolate a roof? And what kind of materials you would use for -50 Celsius?
Greetings from Russia and The Netherlands
That sticky paper wont go on there without a fight.
That's a helpful video.
At 17:00 I was like push it over, How when you just nailed it in. 😂🤣 They look confused too😂🤣😑 Ok tommy
He tacked it in u can always move wood that u nail in by tapping it
Nice videos!
You are the best This Old House
This guy is amazing I just stick it the side of the window but on the window gives a way better seal
The guy on the inside was smart. He was nice and warm
My daughter needs new windows. Thanks for posting this.😁
The quality of the install is truly great. You won't get this caliber of work from any low end contractor though. Buyer beware.
THANKS TOMMY...
The bird 🐦 noises were relaxing in this video 🤣
Tommy can you come out and show me how to install windows at my house in longmeadow? lol. But seriously. IS there a video for triple or Quad pane windows and are there any differences in the install that DIY person should learn?
Can someone explain to me why we need to check the square for the window? Should all the windows be manufactured square?
They have some amount of flex to the overall shape. They aren't made of tank steel.
If its plumb and level, it had better already be square or you're going to be in trouble.
Hell yeah ..basic mathematics
sean tap How does the square measurements change from 56 7/8” x 57”. Then the homeowner “racks” the window and then it changes to 56 7/8” x 56 7/8”. Seems to me if you rack the window it would add a 1/16” to one measurement and subtract 1/16” from the other. The correct square measurement should have read 56 15/16” both directions. (View sequence @ 18 minutes). But then “Big T” subtly checks plumb (with the Stabila level) to confirm homeowner’s measurements.
Esto aprendendo bastante co. Você
The audio in this video is a lot quieter than all other videos
The more of these I watch the more I want to see a bloopers real
now if only every window installer did it the proper way instead of cutting corners to save time/money that'd be great
As long as you want to pay the price it costs to put a window in like that ,imagine putting in 30 like that it would cost more than the house.
@@roccoconte2960 or learn and do it yourself? Tom is probably the best in the field.
@@Ham68229 agreed do it your self if you research enough you can do as good or better than the pros but it will take much much longer than they do and not be much cheaper
@@roccoconte2960 >THIS< Everyone wants this, but hardly anyone wants to pay the price.
@@ajs96350 How true ,everyone expects this kind of job but when told how much it costs its a different story.
How can you do the kick out style in a building with metal siding? In other words it will not have lap siding.
I like everything you do on installation of windows. You only make one mistake and it’s actually pretty big when you consider it pertains to water. The idea of sealing the top and sides are very good. Even leaving the bottom unsealed is a good idea. The problem I have is or starts with were water is (most likely) to penetrate behind the window edge I say it’s at the top. It doesn’t matter if you agree or dis agree because nothing is 100%. How ever let’s say in this case it is the top, so if we follow the direction of the flow it’s going to remain fairly straight until it runs into something that will redirect it, in this case the calking used so far I think we all can agree. My problem is when you applied the caulking you applied it in a wave pattern which is fine for the two sides, however when you applied it at the top you create traps or high and low points. That’s were I have my problem. At the top of the window you should apply it in a mountain shape, well we all know water rolls downhill. Before the window is fitted you should start it on a slight angle with the top as high as you can and the bottom held out. Then slowly lower the bottom of the window into position and at the same time letting comedown into position. You can actually prove this the same way I did. On the show instead of using an actual window you can use a section on glass to see what happens as you make the seal. You won’t end up with water troughs you would in a wave pattern. Try it you see.
Flashing tape is supposed to go over the top window flange, it's not just sealed by caulking... and then z-aluminum flashing over the top of that... then more flashing tape over the z-aluminum flashin after it's been nailed in place. If you need to think about a "mountain shape" for your caulking to keep the water out, you're doing it wrong. :P
I missed the part where they install the personal eye flashing. Excellent job flashing the window.
Watching you handle that vycor really hurt my eyes I can only imagine how smoothly that would have gone on on a nice hot day
You're right. Truly painful, but that is the price the master must pay when teaching the "grasshopper."
As a sign and vinyl installer that made me cringe. I wrap vehicles and they have to be perfect. Cant wait to try it on my house.
@@jawneelogik5744 i think the master started to lose some skills.. he made it look sooo difficult..
I think the apprentices were eager to help and got in his way a bit, slowing him down. Maybe they should have watched him do one with an experienced helper prior to filming this segment, so as to know what to expect.
Prosoco liquid flashing is 1000% better and water proof the entire opening and a LOT easier to deal with
Yup, nowadays just liquid flash the whole window frame and be done.
Would this be the same process for basement wasn't windows?
Great video but what about the factory supplied drip thing over the top of the window?
Wow! Reminded me of Christmas Vacation with Sparky in bed turning pages of a magazine. “A lot of sap. A lot of sap.”