Window Install & Flashing - Jeld Wen in Zip System
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- In this video we will show you the Best Practice Method to install and flash a Jeld Wen Auraline Composite Window in a Zip System Sheathing house. This window was unveiled at the International Builders Show in Vegas and will be available in 2020 nationwide. It's not on their site yet, but you'll be able to find out about it soon at www.jeld-wen.c...
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I've been in the trades for almost 20 years, built houses, flipped houses, renovated top to bottom, commercial and residential, and worked with hundreds of sub trades. I still find it overwhelming at the sheer amount of systems and products that exist to do the same thing. As for what's best? Forget about it, you'll never know, nor will any contractor. What complicates things further is 4 contractors will give you 4 different ways to install the same product. Even for an experienced guy, It can be frustrating and anxiety enducing to make the best choice and to know whether the job is being done correctly or not.
Amen
Try being a diy-er trying to build my own house; learning as I go.
How so? Because different options exist that makes it harder? I love it. Different systems for different requirements and budgets. It doesn't add any anxiety for me. I'd rather have options than just make it up as ingo
I can definitely relate honestly. It's quite overwhelming.
All the products are to screw the americans out of there money. Plenty of old houses with no fancy products with no problems. Rissinger charges 5k to put a window in
There needs to be more videos of Bill giving his hands on knowledge.
Shut up
Matt always does a great job covering windows but i would like to see him do some doors, sliding doors and such...😎
422systemarty a 8R8L Bi Fold patio door perhaps !?! 😰
Ditto!
I have a house under construction and they installed the windows just this week. I was actually very surprised they did nothing in the way of a sill pan or taping the house wrap before installing the windows. Is the best and only thing I can do after the fact to weather seal the edges of the window? Suggestions? I should have them take the windows out and do it the right way!
This channel is my favorite resource for sure. Sliding doors would be great. I think he did something with Marvin some time ago.
I agree with you Pavel and 422systemarty !
Exactly how I did my windows two years ago. After two winter's I can say the extra work was worth it. Not just financially in energy savings but in comfort and sound control as well.
Damn you Matt. I'm going to build a house, and it would have been so much easier if I had never found your channel.
I think I saw Matt do a little building there, nice to see him get his hands dirty....hammers like a manager too. All joking aside, love the videos, working backwards and watching the old ones too. Thank you for sharing all the knowledge, and helping us to build better
Great video. I totally agree that windows can cause a lot of problems. I had a company come in and put in double pane windows but they were not careful in sealing around the window. I had to redo the window to keep the water out and used a number of your videos to do the work since I am learning as I go. Thank you for the info.
I like that he took the side taping past the bend point on the lower tape.
I totally understand the concept and 100% would do this if I had a coastal house where the possibility of high winds or hurricane could drive the water sideways but the beginning seems like overkill .
Super helpful in knowing the steps to take and proper flashing to avoid water damage!
Excellent video on the proper flashing methods with the best products on the market. The real problem is, what are the chances that the average builders are going to be that thorough in the process? More than likely not, which is why no matter how great these products are it always boils down to the final installer and their particular expertise, or lack of it.
This is the method we teach all of the carpenter apprentices and truly is the best method. It helps with air leakage and water penetration both. It would be nice if the whole industry would be using the same method whether it’s Tyvek, zip system or any other mechanically applied system.
Every time I wake up to a notification I get super happy and I have a great day how about everybody else🙋♂️🙋🏽
That's Awesome! Thanks Brother.
Same
Thank you, guys. I'm doing a rebuild (like 2 steps past a remodel) on my house. I've referenced many of your videos to help me do it right.
I have a feeling Matt puts those bags on just for videos. I kid I kid. Great video.
You guys are pros and you typically direct your information to other pros, but as a layman, I appreciate that you provide a how-to that doesn't assume we are all pros, you explain every detail and why you do it. Thanks! Do you have earlier videos that explain the framing as well?
Bill looked absolutely mesmerized by the stretch tape.
For the time and necessity to be very specific with getting the tape to conform around all corners and edges, I prefer to just use liquid flash around the entire opening, covering the entire jamb. It’s a little more expensive, BUT for the end result and lack of headaches it’s so worth it!
I agree hands down. Matt has since used fluid applied flashing abd weather barrier on a couple homes with tremendous results. Have you seen the air sealing vapor that’s implemented by filling the homes interior air space with the air sealant and doing a blower door by blowing the air towards the outside wgich in turn blows the air sealant to the extrusions which seals the tiny holes that would’ve typically been avoided because of the inability to find every tiny air gap. It’s stuff like that wgich brings me back to the build show over just aboit anything else being put out to learn from. Matt is doing what he loves and is doing a fine job if you ask me. I learn something in every video.
As a contractor in swfl I agree with the way you approach the sill and no sealant on the bottom flange but I find that if a use a good bead of elastomeric caulk to adhear the window directly to the zip sheathing. this is adhearing the window to the framing making it structural
and not relying on the adhesion of the zip tape . Because all you did was adhear the window to the zip tape. A bead of quality elastomeric sealant between window flange and sheathing and then zip tape over the flange after. All in all good videos
Thanks for mentioning the 5 degree positive slope with frame sill! Previously, I was looking into sill pans such as suresill (the original frame sill did not have this positive slope). I will look to sanding this slope on frame sill - per explanation of your work
Nice video. I literally just complained on some window install videos about them not taping the sides and top because that would allow air that comes up from the bottom of the window (since that part isn't taped or sealed) to get behind the house wrap, which defeats the purpose of house wrap as an air barrier. I understand here you're using Zip but then air could get in where the window jamb and the zip meet. Happy to see you guys put tape on that.
Thanks for another great video. I’m about to start building a house using zip sheathing for the first time. This was exactly what I needed to see.
Dont use shit system to build your new house.
thanks again. great work and teaching. i like to watch and recap everything you do right before I actually do the next step. again suberb!
I love the detail. Here in the UK we just slap in a plastic frame 10mm smaller than the opening, a few concrete screws through the frame from the inside and then expanding foam the gap. You have a much drier climate and go to all this trouble to waterproof. I suppose you have to for wooden houses.
Sometimes we foam Windows here depends in the United States. You guys in the UK don't do this for skylights though?
@@bobs6129 I've never fitted a skylight but when I saw the builders working on next door I didn't see them use foam. I think they possibly come with a sealing kit included
@@SwimBikeRunFastest yeah usually they come with a roll of butyl tape I'm guessing
I always learn something new in your videos. Thanks Matt!
Funny, I worked for Jeld awen in their Darlington, UK factory about 14 years ago! Worked 10 weeks after leaving Uni assembling double glazing units. Haven't thought about that time in years.
Thanks guys. I got me some of the flex tape to try out on a window install I’m doing soon
Wow, Matt swinging a hammer.
Came here to say this. Haha
Now surprise us back and say something funny, constructive, helpful or just anything that is not completely lame.
@@tapuzak , I know I should be more constructive with my comments. But thanks for the reply, I apologize for wasting your time.
@@tapuzak is this constructive?...the head flashing should have gone on before the head tape
@@tomruth9487 dude, it was a funny comment. Don't worry about it
You're the one that got me into creating my UA-cam channel, love the content - keep it up! ✌
You've got some awesome content too. Funny y'all are both from Austin. SUBSCRIBED! 🔥
@@grahamk3708 Thanks bud, I appreciate it
You're cute
@@tessakelly6061 😍 i see you
Matt comes across as the guy who couldn't play football or baseball but knows the rule book. Bill comes across like he played football and baseball and knows the rule book.
Bill Wood. Best contractor name ever...
I've learned so much from this channel. Thanks.
Last time I installed windows, I didn't see any flashing. It's been running stably for a couple of years now - no complaints.
My condolences Matt!😥
JW window and door units are very nice, good luck on getting them to honor any type of warranty replacement!
Belt and suspenders! Love the American version of Belts and Braces but definitely think the British versions rolls off the tongue better.
Nice install , I appreciate your reason for not securing bottom flang , I’m not sure if it’s however it’s necessary
Good video Matt and I love how you recommend using tape abundantly. But really, Jeld Wen? I know you either got them for free or at discount, but their sealing mechanism is not same as the other higher end ... Jeld Wen reminds me of Champion windows, and we know where that company is now. You should maybe do a video on selecting windows, because even with the name brands, such as Marvin, they have different lines and one should be careful in selection. FYI, Most carpenters will NOT angle the bottom window sill ~5% ... time consuming, so, sealing this area all around is important. I would recommend showing no wood around the seal. Tape it then use liquid Zip to tape exposed wood. I love the flex Zip tape!
Great how to video! Thank you for all your information!
Head flashing should be a must As home wash down water blaster
Great video, thanks. Good to see you swing a hammer for a change!
Bill Wood the carpenter aye? nominative determinism at its finest
Nice video giys!...Nail every hole in the flang guys! If the nail flang is crimping up your setting the nails too hard. Center a window in the RO from outside. Slide the window to one side make a pencil mark by the flange then slide the window all the way to the other side of the RO make a mark. Next slide the window over and split the difference between your two pencil Mark's!
I think you just sold me on those windows. Will be building end of year.
Great video Glad your talking PG rating not just the Energy.
Best video I’ve seen so far
Thinks for making videos very helpful
I’ve watched so many videos on how to flash a window you’d think they be all the same right because I would think there’s one way .
I think builders are learning along the way next five years something else with-be made then everyone will have to change it’s funny it’s like buying a phone every six months because they figure out something new.
Just something to help out with the waterproofing - unless your window is literally tight within like 1/16 or 1/8 to the frame, making those corners that tight (especially with that comment about stapling it) is not necessary. However, a backlip for that wrap would be very useful. I speak as a window installer for a major American company working in the rainy, super wet PNW (our installs are lifetime warrantied, longer than our glass, and this is on remodels).
Oh and Jeld-Wen is copying our windows with their new frame material. We did it first. RBA FTW Andersen>Pella>Milgard>Jeld-wen everyone else sucks
Matt uses a lot of great products which makes for a very well built house. The only downside is the cost of all of this. You could quickly turn a $150/sf home into $250/sf which really is cost prohibitive to a lot of people.
Is this the first time Matt’s used a hammer? Lol
The angled sills are your "old school" framing technique that duh-works!🤣😉
I'm due for a sill rebuild, but of course I'm only going to have gypsum-I'm guessing this poly tech tape needs to stick with poly home wrap-new construction only? I can't afford to tear off my aluminum and whip out the expanding foam and wrap. Lol
Building a house for the first time and finding your videos very informative Matt. Just found out the framer did not put zip tape around the window frame before placing the window. And btw the tape that he did put around the windows after was ripped out by the roofer because he was short of tape. Is this common practice?
Doubt this will be seen, but I work residential construction and remodeling seasonally and I have never used or seen the Zip System before. But I was driving back from the hardware store (or somewhere, don't remember) and I finally saw a house going up using it. I do have to say, it does look a lot better than Tyvek like we normally use. Too bad it doesn't get seen.
If you'll be adding 1" foam board exterior insulation, then furring strips and siding, what order do you do the window flashing, window install with nailing flange? I have seen videos with the foam already in place before the stretch tape and flashing tape, etc. Your thoughts?
Very good question.
I learned a few things today ,5 degree bevel of the sill ,caulking before putting the Windows up,tape after nail too。I am going to install 3 Windows for a small new house for a charity 。 bow with respect 。🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😁
In general, what does the top flashing add over the already taped seam besides a few extra nail holes through the tape? Is water really going to navigate up below the lower level of tape? If so, won't it do so even with the extra layer of flashing?
I went to Home Depot to take a look at the ZIP product. The employee there told me that they have sold very little since stocking the sheathing. The price is about thirty dollars for the 5/8" size, and about twenty for the thinner size. Reading in other places, I see that Huber is apparently aggressively protecting their patent by challenging any manufacturer who produces a sheathing that is remotely similar. Researching the vapor permeability of the ZIP coating and the OSB substrate, as well as the performance in real-world conditions, I have the impression that painted OSB would perform as well. Some builders advise using half-inch plywood for sheathing with a quality house wrap instead.
Yeah the costs are outrageous now, we used osb and house wrap, but put the zip system on the roof, I'm a remodeling contractor but this is my first new build. I think the painted osb is not a bad idea except that code would require you to put on the house wrap as with the zip system you don't since the patent company gets code approval, no corruption there, lol
@@billnoname8093 Thanks for your reply, Bill. Since I wrote that original comment, those ZIP products must be two or three time higher in price now! After further investigation, it appears that the ZIP sheeting is in fact coated with an oil-based paint. On a large build, the reduced time and instant protection from weather are likely to be a significant value. To experiment with alternatives, I am using an elastomeric "siliconizer" coating on thin plywood for a shed project.
There are multiple sheet goods from manufacturers now that are very similar to zip. Of course they cost more coated, but that cost is coming down for all of these type products.
@@christopherhaak9824 Thanks for your reply. ZIP system itself has come down significantly. Both big box stores have much more manageable prices lately.
Looks pretty straight forward, just started seeing it in my area
Great video,awesome content. Way too many ads. 4 in 25 minutes? My only gripe, which really isn't much. Keep up the good work. I'm getting ready to build my next house, so all the pro tips really help.
Great video as always!
thats a tight window
Nice! I'm taking notes on this for when I replace some old windows in my house (I'll be pulling back the vinyl siding a little to do some taping as the siding and house wrap were installed after windows were in).
The nail-holding tip came in handy.
I wonder if that much taping is needed on a shed window. LOL.
Love them widows sizzle
Matt, Ive been in construction 30+ years now mainly in Texas with degrees in architecture and landscape architecture and added selling custom standing seam metal roofing 2.5 years ago to the things I do...I just can't get on board with any kind of particle board sheathing. Zip is an intetesting product but the only place I've even seen it installed to spec is on your videos. If they sold the coating material seperately I'd be all about that. Particle board sheathing of any kind just does not hold up to moisture that is inevitable.
I do really enjoy your videos though.
it is not particle board!
"Oriented strand board (OSB) is an engineered wood product formed by rectangular wood strands (flakes) arranged in cross-oriented layers with the help of waterproof adhesives. The result is a structural engineered wood panel similar to plywood in strength and performance, but more uniform and less expensive."
@@RaulTorresMorfin yes it is OSB...that is a form of particle board, friend. I know exactly how it is made. Actually toured a plant once to see it made. And it isn't really that less expensive anymore on the front-end...and very expensive to repair on the back end.
You've had to pull out incorrectly installed zip?
@@RandomUserName92840 yep
Matt has talked on some of the videos about going to plywood when he's able, or in some cases for the lower courses of sheathing to provide additional protection. I think this makes sense. I am about to do some sheathing on my own home and am weighing the options. My preference at the moment is good plywood with fluid applied, but it's also the most costly option. I'm in Florida, so strong wind-driven rain is a given. ZIP is hard to get in my area anyway so it may not be feasible for me.
Love the effort on this channel
Bill wood is a great name for a carpenter 😂
That thumbnail initially looked like you were auctioning off a painting!!! ROFL
Thanks to your videos, now i hate my house. Its a 70s built home and it has a very poorly done remodel. I love the content tho keep it coming!
If it makes you feel any better, fancy builds can fail too. All it takes is one minor flaw, and you got damage. Is your 70s remodel holding up? It's been about 50 years!
Thank you for posting/sharing, good idea on the slope.
Penny roller for corners 👌
Awesome content like always. Maybe you could start another series showing bill in how to videos, focused on proper installation of energy sensitive building components and others. I think it will be very beneficial.
Nice, clear video. Lucky to have sponsors giving you free materials like windows and sheathing...
But Bill let the cat out of the bag about the longevity of the stretch tape - said something like "sometimes the tape will curl and it's ok to use a staple to hold the corners down". Which is an admission that even new stretch tape installations can quickly fail - imagine what happens once the cladding/stucco goes on and it's out of sight. I'd like to see how well stretch tape survives 10-20 years of scorching heat and freezing cycles.
I feel liquid flashing the sill is the true best practice. And I don't think adding tape to sides and top of window is necessary before window installation - it's superfluous since you caulk and apply tape after the window is installed. I suspect it's undesirable to have multiple layers of tape on top of each other in any event.
Bill also said something not well understood - that water can (and does) run uphill if there's driving wind and/or pressure imbalances. I live on a hillside and despite overhangs, have had wind-driven rain drive water up over 6" of flashing.
out of sight....and out of UV exposure
These being relatively new products, I wonder how many decades the adhesives will last before drying out? Obviously even if they do dry out, it's better than the old method of nothing, but just makes me curious. What will it look like in 30 years, 50 years?
Bill is well spoken.
A close up of the new material would be good. I like that it’s not vinyl.
One thing I've never seen yet in your videos is how you airtighten the window when the bottom is open.
Do you tape, caulk or 1K foam the innside?
I was thinking the same, Won't it just be a open air vent breaking the indoor seal?
You use an air dam on the inside. Usually it is backer rod with Prosoco Air Dam on the inside of the window. This will air seal and also help if for any reason you get water behind the tape it will help seal it as well from the inside.
Math has showed in some of his older videos that they back caulk the inside of the window. First they put in backer rod then caulk and tool the caulking.
@@Wood-Renovations actually remember seeing that when you say it 👍
He seals from the inside ua-cam.com/video/ZfjDBzbwQDA/v-deo.html
Well done thank you for teaching me
New drinking game.
Huber zip system.
Awesome video! Ready to diy my windows now!
That’s like shingling the ceiling!!
I recently watched your Zip 2.0 video where the guy you interviewed uses the Zip Liquid Flash around his windows instead of a tape, which I take it you don't do? Can you talk about the pros and cons of each technique and which you prefer? For context, I live in New Hampshire. Thanks! Love the channel.
Hey Matt! Very thorough installation video! We're planning to install a Cor-A-Vent Rainscreen between our ZIP R-Sheathing and vertical wood siding. Could you explain how that system should interface with the ZIP Tape/Flashing around the windows and window trim? Thanks!
Looks like you can use spray foam on the inside, or backer rod and caulk, as in other videos.
Doesn't leaving a gap at the bottom flange and the fact there is not caulk, effect the blow door test and R value due to air penetration at this area?
It does not affect air leakage because there is a backer rod and caulking used on the inside for air sealing. Low expansion spray foam and tape is another method.
Can Matt or someone please explain what he's saying in 14:51 - 15:10? I don't know what jamb legs are. I think that was valuable information. I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you for the educational video!
One day ill have the money to have matt help me build a house
My two cents: refer to the manufacturer instructions about how many nails to put in the flange. Great install!
Please after 20 years return to see this job and check the tape or zip grue around the window
I wonder how long this flexible tape stays flexible. All things seem to dry and crack with age
You must not be familiar with roofing. There was some tacky adhesive 20 years later that is still stuck and pliable.
Have to read every manufacturer but my understanding for the most part you nail every other hole unless your by the water or a hurricane area where you nail every hole. In hurricane area if your using a non adhesive wrb like tyvek you would actually apply a skirt with the tyvek over the bottom flange taped to the flange but skip taped to the tyvek. I guess the idea is if the window has a draft going through the bottom flange into the house the skirt will prevent a column of water from pushing its way inside.
Thanks!
I would lose my mind if I had some guy hanging over my shoulder narrating while I am working. Lol.
On the last job I was working, the homeowner was hanging over another guy's shoulder yelling in his ear while the guy was trying to cut crown molding. I don't know why that guy kept working there, but I quit for him. I knew it's just a matter of time before the homeowner would be screaming in my ear while I'm trying to work, and I don't wanna go to jail for assault, so I left.
I love all this re-learning new info on flashing and water-sealing of your videos. But I have to ask, the long-term life of these products, will they be another future "abatement" product? Asbestos shingles were amazing for homes in the 50's/60's. But who knew that cutting them (frangible) or breaking them were to be a hazard. These adhesives, membranes and tapes with UV, thermal changes and possible bond failures (some bad batches?), along with OSB (who remembers the fire-rated roof OSB that in 5 years, people would fall through the roof-literally)... just because some lab tests (can be altered/faked) say it will last 10-20 years ... if applied/installed correctly. Wow... I need to lay off coffee this late...
There are documentaries about asbestos and the thousands of years of history that man has been using it and how the big companies that ran the asbestos industries knew that it created health complications and kept it under wraps. As far as zip, it's been around for 12 years now and Matt has a video showing a testing facility at the university of texas where they have mock ups of pretty much every single exterior waterproofing product on the market outside exposed to the elements year round and the zip system had actually held up much better than it was rated and we are talking years of direct uv exposure without siding over it. But also, if we let fear of innovation paralyze us then we cant move forward. Just food for thought. Cheers.
No, such good points you make. And here in America corporate money trumps everything so one does have to worry. Who remembers Dutch Boy and their lead based paint? How come they dont have to pick up the cost of all this lead paint abatement? NOPE! It's the homeowner who has to pay for that one. And why does Dutch Boy still exist? Over and over again, products/methods are found to be completely destructive. So many go against common sense. Somehow paper protects your house from water? Live in an airtight pressurized box? Please I can't be the only one whose better judgement is wagging it's finger.
@Wood-Renovations my comment wasn't in reference to this system here. I actually like how clean and simplified it looks.
Bravo!
Good job guys!
Wow it's been awhile since I've seen ol'Bill
Thank you for the great content. Can you please clarify why the bottom of the window does not get sealed/liquid flashed? Won't keeping the bottom open contradict the concept of making an air tight house and also get worse results on a blower door test?
The inside is fully sealed, the exterior flange is kept loose to allow water a path of least resistance out
How do you attach siding to the zip system without making holes in the zip system from the fasteners, seams a little counter productive to do all the water proofing than just drive nails into it to hold siding.
I guess your total airtight seal will be from the inside using foam backer rods & sealant.
Question: does your window manufacturer come out to the site to measure your rough openings? Or, does your carpenter forman give them the measurements?
(Interested in the turnaround time from start to finish - from rough openings to final install)
@Matt Risinger , Why not use the Zip 2.0 process you talked about in other videos?
I was wondering the same thing. Matt why did you not use the Zip 2.0 method. Also, why not use the ZipR?
@@themikeflanders3470 he tore this house down, and rebuilt new
job looks good, but remember not every one has a lot money to spend on over kill ,always looks for high efficiency at low cost . btw, big fan.