EDIT: Thanks for the overwhelming positive support! Many Impervious members/officers reached out and say they like this video and miss me! Long video! I KNOW! AITA? YES! But I got the job done and their guild cant clear anything now that im gone. WCYD!
True story from a while back. I was on the deep run tram on my druid and i met with a pally from Impervious on the same carriage. He randomly tells me his guild just failed to kill Hakkar. He thinks his bad healing was partially to blame. I asked him what healing addon he uses and he said none. I was already on their discord and signed up for their bwl the next day so we jumped on vc and i got him to install vuhdo and taught him how to use it. The next day in bwl he was healing really well.
Great video. What a fun story. As a non-raider it's so strange to hear people say how easy vanilla wow is, but you have to put so much work in. It's just not for everyone.
*No Hard Feelings* on Horde is pretty solid and chill. We're still progressing though. EDIT: DO NOT JOIN *No Hard Feelings* The guild as a whole is really nice but the GM tries to censor guild chat. I just discovered this tonight and I was amongst some others that left.
@@dwarflord Unfortunately I tonight found out tonight that leadership is pro censorship, me and some others gquit. I was Offtanking some raids so they're minus one tank. Maybe you can tag me when you find a chill progressing guild?
so basically, you were a massive pos to people you knew were beginners. i swear people are trolling when they berate others and then just say they were providing constructive, honest feedback, lol.
I think that having the same person fail the same thing 5 weeks in a row is going to get some beratement. Multiple Impervious raid members, even officers in the guild said they liked my video. 5-10 different impervious raid members still raid with me in other raids. When asked.... they say they miss me. Current raid members of impervious? DM me several times today even asking for guild recommendations for new guilds! I was and still am an angel. The saviour of impervious
I'd probably keep failing a raid than put up with a toxic personality. This being said, if they did want to progress, they probably needed someone calling them a "retard" when making mistakes. It comes at a heavy cost though, I do understand why they ditched you. Remember, you can be theatrical without being a jerk to people. You simply happen to be super toxic, while also being theatrical, not a great combination.
I have been on the fence joining this guild so I appreciate the insight. I already didn't like a few things about the guild so I hadn't joined yet but this is a hard stop for me ha. I've been a GM of a raiding guild, if he's not showing up and not even telling people properly he'll be gone that's a big pass.
Oh shit I remember Impervious. I took a Garr binding from them on my Rogue. And then l left the next week. That was back before a merger that broke the guild. The leaders don’t know what they are doing.
I feel for you, because it sucks to get shat on for helping. I've been in a similar situation. I've seen it happen to others, even bullshit like massive contributors being kicked because they wouldn't stand down when some officer's girlfriend wanted loot over others because, well "c'mon" she wanted it DKP be damned. It's a sensation of being robbed, whether you had gotten loot or not. It's good to ventilate and reflect a bit, I find that it helps and I hope it helps you.
i find it unbelievable that they were doing so poorly in naxx i play in a casual guild on era that allows any spec to a certain extent like we have a paladin with TF and feral druids and boomkins ect and we're clearing naxx and starting to get consistant on 15/15 in one night instead of cleanup saph+kt listening to this it just felt like alot of them gave it no thought or real prep edit: just saw a warrior had casted cleave a single time theres no way he wasn't trolling
THEY ARE NOT TROLLING. I CANNOT MAKE UP THE THINGS I SAW IN THIS RAID!!!! I had to teach EVERY SINGLE PLAYER - the BASICS of the game. I am not joking. I spent 10 hours per week teaching them
@@dwarflord some might think you were a harsh teacher but you saw results and they were improving their behaviour is inexcusable though and i know some regular people were stuck in there for sure probably feeling like they had nowhere else to go i'd say given the amount of time you dedicated to improving their runs and overall ability to play the game taking them all the way to clearing KT theres no way anyone can claim you used them/leeched just for atiesh if that was the case you wouldn't bother going into detail for each individual raider and looking over their ability casts/sunders/boss specific shit like patch healing on dps ect
I knew why you got gkicked after like 1 min of the video lol. Toxic players think that just because they're good at the game people will put up with their constant insulting and name calling.
@dwarflord actually the entire thing. I've played this game for 20yrs, i know what players like you are like. But i think the real guild leader wanted you out because you were clearly carrying the guild and stealing his attention. One thing you gotta remember... old people can't play this game very well. They play for the social aspect, they don't know how to do their rotations properly, they play for fun(in their opinion of fun). To have someone in there cursing and swearing and insulting them all the time...
I actually miss the free speech and based jokes. Don't miss their refusal to listen to anyone else when it comes to raid strats. I've raid lead & main tanked classic before, it can be work for sure, but it can be fun too. I think you did more than enough for all of them, they were just ungrateful. Not one of them stepped up to do all that work after you left.
I joined their guild a year ago after dieing on my warrior in Hardcore. Transferred to ERA and saw them spamming in chat and decided to join their MC run. We couldn’t kill Rag because people were leaving towards the end tho😅. Kind of crazy how you got them this far. Honestly, would have loved to stick around and be apart of this but quit shortly after since It didnt feel the same as hardcore
A long time ago I was so addicted to this game, I used to do this NGO bs helping trash guilds just to have more raiding time, until I got a stomach ulcer.
Wait thats how geopold or whatever his name is got his dft lol im all for pallys experimenting with tanking i have actually been doing it lately , its a fcken 20yr old game you can break the meta sometimes for some fun but god damn giving one of your first dft to a prot is crazy.
It's a GREAT look to give your first DFT to a paladin. That's half-the point of soft-reserve. I'm so incredibly sick and tired of people who feel the need to min-max 20 year old content. DFT is never going to make or break a raid. Unless the DFT was hard reserved for the prot paladin I simply cannot agree with you there. Hard-reserve for anything but main tank and perhaps some legendary piece for the guild leader or other huge contributor and if so advertised months in advance is a hard PASS for me.
last 2 week we cant even kill neltarion and skipped it lmao and last week naxx just doing 2 wings and down 4 boss only, im being stresfull now, let me join that lmpervious
I see what you did, I see why you ruffled some feathers. I think you went in with a mindset of solving a problem, fixing a broken machine and achieving a goal. My guess is that you enjoyed, at least the premise, of that task. However I suspect that for many others in the guild it removed what made the game fun for them. You also likely trampled a few boomer egos that created resentment towards you. I believe that when you constructed your equation for how to solve the problem of progressing you missed a key factor, the player psychology. Some players are so goal oriented that they're willing to be screamed at every evening to progress, most however aren't. Diplomacy, charm, care - they're all things that go a long way to keep a guild together and to stay alive. Do I think the guild were being children? Yes, but that's what you had to work with and in the end failed at making children perform.
@@Shrlnrkrm ahhhhhhhh, let me make it easy for you. I dont have anything against impervious and many impervious ppl raid with me in my raids and its all good :)
And big OOF at the slurs. I don't get offended by any single slur and certainly not by proxy. However, that doesn't mean I would enjoy listening to some manchild using slurs for lack of something intelligible or funny to say. It's juvenile and a bad look. There's 40 people in the raid, have some decency. I quite frankly don't get why you bothered with this guild when the management was so rotten. The end result was predictable.
oh man u did all this and ou are telling me that you won't play classic FRESH? you are playing FRESH and you know it!!! seee you there! ok maybe not, as i am EU
Divine Intervention, a Paladin spell that protects the person they cast it on from all harm for 3 mins, but the paladin dies in the process. It's basically the same as a petri.
Why are you expecting this groups experience to be better than a bunch of noobs? Sounds like you joined a “casual group” according to you and treating it as a sweaty group. Don’t join a casual guild if you want competitive outcomes? This seems like this is a hard misread from you.
Ive been a wow player since release, private servered since fenix, emerald dream, warsong, nostalriua, classic era. I’ve bene in your situation a few times but sticking around this long is crazy toxic to your mental health… i cant believe you went through all that trouble going by individual loga and giving people pointers… insane… i admire your persistence but i know how hard and taxing this is… hope you recover well and take some time to detox and take care of yourself and your mental health…
ohhhh this was like 3 months ago, im big chilling, was doomin for a couple days. I just run my own naxx now. and that had some similar ups and downs (still full clear week 1, but some clean ups) - this week should be our strongest roster yet :) nothing gets me down
is this suppose to be negative? wheres the fun in showing up with the same 40 people clearing naxx subb 1hr without a single death every week hoping u can get that extra 1% parse
@@billyumbraskey8135 Appreciate that, but know that I have a lot of haters. A lot of trolls. You could have paraphrased the question a teeny bit different :)
@dwarflord by the way fuck these clowns. Your trash talk is the best part. We need to go back to the old days where trash talk is the norm! Retards! XD
I wouldnt say I played them, I would have raided with them tilll the end of days. I think you see all of our good times in the video. End of the day I have no bad blood with them, and most of them do not have any with me and actually liked the video :)
@dwarflord I know your type, You take no responsibility ever for anything so it doesn't matter what I say, You're gonna dodge accountability the way you dodge sincerity.
EDIT: Thanks for the overwhelming positive support! Many Impervious members/officers reached out and say they like this video and miss me!
Long video! I KNOW! AITA? YES! But I got the job done and their guild cant clear anything now that im gone. WCYD!
True story from a while back. I was on the deep run tram on my druid and i met with a pally from Impervious on the same carriage. He randomly tells me his guild just failed to kill Hakkar. He thinks his bad healing was partially to blame. I asked him what healing addon he uses and he said none. I was already on their discord and signed up for their bwl the next day so we jumped on vc and i got him to install vuhdo and taught him how to use it. The next day in bwl he was healing really well.
nice :) I love to heal with vuhdo super ez
don't care much for your personality. you're part of the reason i quit. genuinely, but that guild was shit and the management was worse.
Summed up so perfectly at the end by: 'Am I the asshole?... I was an asshole... to a degree... BUT... not the biggest asshole.' 😂
yes :) The asshole who gets ppl to listen
I left impervious when their guild leader Boyka refused to stop using racial slurs. There was a 2 night 6 hour MC clear one week.
If you get offended by racial slurs you are just (in his words) "not drinking enough milk you p**ssy"
Valid reason to leave, gets tiresome listening to manchildren really quick.
Me too. Constant slurs.
Sounds like the true spirit of classic!
yup :)
guess they were impervious to proper raidleading :PPPP
I think this is a compliment to me, so ill take it!
@@dwarflord yes 🙂↕️ proper raid leading being you :)
I've been waiting for this one!
it took a long time to edit!
Great video. What a fun story. As a non-raider it's so strange to hear people say how easy vanilla wow is, but you have to put so much work in. It's just not for everyone.
*No Hard Feelings* on Horde is pretty solid and chill. We're still progressing though.
EDIT: DO NOT JOIN *No Hard Feelings* The guild as a whole is really nice but the GM tries to censor guild chat. I just discovered this tonight and I was amongst some others that left.
nice :) Are you looking for a raid leader? My undead mage needs Atiesh
@@dwarflord Unfortunately I tonight found out tonight that leadership is pro censorship, me and some others gquit. I was Offtanking some raids so they're minus one tank. Maybe you can tag me when you find a chill progressing guild?
so basically, you were a massive pos to people you knew were beginners. i swear people are trolling when they berate others and then just say they were providing constructive, honest feedback, lol.
He literally told them instructions, and they immediately failed 😂
I think that having the same person fail the same thing 5 weeks in a row is going to get some beratement. Multiple Impervious raid members, even officers in the guild said they liked my video. 5-10 different impervious raid members still raid with me in other raids. When asked.... they say they miss me. Current raid members of impervious? DM me several times today even asking for guild recommendations for new guilds! I was and still am an angel. The saviour of impervious
Grats on Atiesh Dwarflord. It was definitely not worth the price. Mad respect though for sticking it out.
thanks! it was an enjoyable journey!
I'd probably keep failing a raid than put up with a toxic personality. This being said, if they did want to progress, they probably needed someone calling them a "retard" when making mistakes. It comes at a heavy cost though, I do understand why they ditched you. Remember, you can be theatrical without being a jerk to people. You simply happen to be super toxic, while also being theatrical, not a great combination.
Ciferon here. Sounds like a similar situation I went through with Silver Hand. I also got a legendary out of it lol
haha, as long as we come out on top :)
dwarfy if fresh era is announced this nov 13 I'll gaslight you into playing with me and I'll give you the power to kick whoever you want ❤
tempting
when fresh era release?
@@mimuso4560 in my opinon, not for a long time! But... if you want to wear a tin foil hat... soon!
I'm going to guess the end of the month for release , I think China got there's last month I dnt remember.
@@slumz8407china is getting theirs this month on the 22nd
I have been on the fence joining this guild so I appreciate the insight. I already didn't like a few things about the guild so I hadn't joined yet but this is a hard stop for me ha. I've been a GM of a raiding guild, if he's not showing up and not even telling people properly he'll be gone that's a big pass.
good luck in your searches!
I always love a good wow story. Great video man
ty!
It should be bannable to be that bad in a 20-year-old game with 2 mechanics and everything solved
Oh shit I remember Impervious. I took a Garr binding from them on my Rogue. And then l left the next week. That was back before a merger that broke the guild. The leaders don’t know what they are doing.
I feel for you, because it sucks to get shat on for helping. I've been in a similar situation. I've seen it happen to others, even bullshit like massive contributors being kicked because they wouldn't stand down when some officer's girlfriend wanted loot over others because, well "c'mon" she wanted it DKP be damned. It's a sensation of being robbed, whether you had gotten loot or not. It's good to ventilate and reflect a bit, I find that it helps and I hope it helps you.
I ran AQ 20 with early Impervious and had to take over tanking…
lol
i find it unbelievable that they were doing so poorly in naxx
i play in a casual guild on era that allows any spec to a certain extent like we have a paladin with TF and feral druids and boomkins ect
and we're clearing naxx and starting to get consistant on 15/15 in one night instead of cleanup saph+kt
listening to this it just felt like alot of them gave it no thought or real prep
edit: just saw a warrior had casted cleave a single time theres no way he wasn't trolling
THEY ARE NOT TROLLING. I CANNOT MAKE UP THE THINGS I SAW IN THIS RAID!!!! I had to teach EVERY SINGLE PLAYER - the BASICS of the game. I am not joking. I spent 10 hours per week teaching them
@@dwarflord some might think you were a harsh teacher but you saw results and they were improving
their behaviour is inexcusable though and i know some regular people were stuck in there for sure probably feeling like they had nowhere else to go
i'd say given the amount of time you dedicated to improving their runs and overall ability to play the game taking them all the way to clearing KT theres no way anyone can claim you used them/leeched just for atiesh
if that was the case you wouldn't bother going into detail for each individual raider and looking over their ability casts/sunders/boss specific shit like patch healing on dps ect
I knew why you got gkicked after like 1 min of the video lol. Toxic players think that just because they're good at the game people will put up with their constant insulting and name calling.
and how much of the video did you watch before you cast your judgement?
@dwarflord actually the entire thing. I've played this game for 20yrs, i know what players like you are like. But i think the real guild leader wanted you out because you were clearly carrying the guild and stealing his attention.
One thing you gotta remember... old people can't play this game very well. They play for the social aspect, they don't know how to do their rotations properly, they play for fun(in their opinion of fun). To have someone in there cursing and swearing and insulting them all the time...
@@CatKingCole82 fair enough! I did say I was an asshole. I can be toxic, thanks for watching and commenting
@@CatKingCole82 yes, on horde fresh
@@dwarflord is that SoD or some private server?
did not think i'd be interested in this video but man.... classic
It's alright bro. Just talk to Anthony Kiedis, get the band back together, and pump out another platinum studio album
This is hilarious. I don't play Era, I play Hardcore, but love me some good guild drama
ty :)
I actually miss the free speech and based jokes. Don't miss their refusal to listen to anyone else when it comes to raid strats. I've raid lead & main tanked classic before, it can be work for sure, but it can be fun too. I think you did more than enough for all of them, they were just ungrateful. Not one of them stepped up to do all that work after you left.
Thanks! I definitely left massive shoes to fill:)
I joined their guild a year ago after dieing on my warrior in Hardcore. Transferred to ERA and saw them spamming in chat and decided to join their MC run. We couldn’t kill Rag because people were leaving towards the end tho😅. Kind of crazy how you got them this far.
Honestly, would have loved to stick around and be apart of this but quit shortly after since It didnt feel the same as hardcore
thanks for the comment :) Ya their molten cores are something else, similar to their BWLs... and AQ40..
20 years later people still can't full clear naxx yikes
yup!
I didn't think there were any non GDKP guilds left on classic era. I stopped playing once my third guild disbanded shortly after naxx released
about 20 SR/LC/DKP guilds on whitemane
heyoo shots fired how dare u show my lower rank heroic strike cause I was too poor to buy AQ book at the time!!!!!!!
I FIRE FROM THE HIP! But hey, you stopped raiding with them when I was kicked :)
Laughing stock of the server? Sounds like Simple on Incendius.
guilds in a shellnut
bro why would you take atiesh u can already make portals???
to portal level 10s
I love progression but this seems like depression
hahah
You should interview players like Iggy, p7 members, flixster, etc
i have plans for a few history videos
A long time ago I was so addicted to this game, I used to do this NGO bs helping trash guilds just to have more raiding time, until I got a stomach ulcer.
I actually somehow keep my stress low! I laugh at most things in life that go wrong
Wait thats how geopold or whatever his name is got his dft lol im all for pallys experimenting with tanking i have actually been doing it lately , its a fcken 20yr old game you can break the meta sometimes for some fun but god damn giving one of your first dft to a prot is crazy.
that is correct! soft reserve!
Shaved head asmon gold
Final form
You ain’t gotta be this sweaty though just enjoy the game. How about raiding without world buffs
15:00 - 15:20 what is that priest doing ahaha, in the poison out of the poison... nah lets stay in!
One of Impervious' finest! Actually that is Xenzypriest, a known scammer. Dark times. We took who we needed to take
It's a GREAT look to give your first DFT to a paladin. That's half-the point of soft-reserve. I'm so incredibly sick and tired of people who feel the need to min-max 20 year old content. DFT is never going to make or break a raid. Unless the DFT was hard reserved for the prot paladin I simply cannot agree with you there. Hard-reserve for anything but main tank and perhaps some legendary piece for the guild leader or other huge contributor and if so advertised months in advance is a hard PASS for me.
I've played with high lvl spesdrunning guilds and casual prog guilds. The only guilds I won't play with are racist/homophonic ones.
cry
Ya, I am not a fan of the edgey coms, I know ppl who sling slurs all the time. It doesnt seem cool to me, they find it fun
last 2 week we cant even kill neltarion and skipped it lmao and last week naxx just doing 2 wings and down 4 boss only, im being stresfull now, let me join that lmpervious
hey nefarian is tough!
he try to log out in combat 🤣
you sometimes could around this time of filming, there was a bug from SOD, thanks for laughing at what you dont understand
Make your own guild and call It dwarves of destiny
I might make a guild, but I have the name already :)
you're not even mean about it sheesh i need to be in your guild lol
im making one on fresh
I see what you did, I see why you ruffled some feathers. I think you went in with a mindset of solving a problem, fixing a broken machine and achieving a goal.
My guess is that you enjoyed, at least the premise, of that task. However I suspect that for many others in the guild it removed what made the game fun for them. You also likely trampled a few boomer egos that created resentment towards you. I believe that when you constructed your equation for how to solve the problem of progressing you missed a key factor, the player psychology. Some players are so goal oriented that they're willing to be screamed at every evening to progress, most however aren't.
Diplomacy, charm, care - they're all things that go a long way to keep a guild together and to stay alive. Do I think the guild were being children? Yes, but that's what you had to work with and in the end failed at making children perform.
This is very difficult for me who is in the middle
what do you mean in the middle?
@dwarflord I'm part of the guild and also Dwarf Lord Fan Club T_T
@@Shrlnrkrm ahhhhhhhh, let me make it easy for you. I dont have anything against impervious and many impervious ppl raid with me in my raids and its all good :)
@dwarflord That's what I do, I'm always there for world tours. I should join lmpervious soon >_
dont feel bad. they are bad
support drawflord
:)
marbles for patchwerk hahaha
marbles for patchwerk accounts for healers healing the melee or wrong target!
And big OOF at the slurs. I don't get offended by any single slur and certainly not by proxy. However, that doesn't mean I would enjoy listening to some manchild using slurs for lack of something intelligible or funny to say. It's juvenile and a bad look. There's 40 people in the raid, have some decency. I quite frankly don't get why you bothered with this guild when the management was so rotten. The end result was predictable.
oh man u did all this and ou are telling me that you won't play classic FRESH? you are playing FRESH and you know it!!! seee you there! ok maybe not, as i am EU
haha :) if frehs comes out in 1 year maybe im more interested
What is DI'ed
Divine Intervention, a Paladin spell that protects the person they cast it on from all harm for 3 mins, but the paladin dies in the process. It's basically the same as a petri.
Haha this was entertaining! ty
ty :)
Should have done a priest and got a 2nd atiesh haha
i only have one atiesh, no plans on any more
@dwarflord spriest is pretty sick idk haha
55 min of bitching classic dwarflord
First - It's the title for me..
hehe :)
i could never raid with this guy as my leader..
me? Thats cool, you dont need to raid with me :) Be well
Why are you expecting this groups experience to be better than a bunch of noobs?
Sounds like you joined a “casual group” according to you and treating it as a sweaty group. Don’t join a casual guild if you want competitive outcomes? This seems like this is a hard misread from you.
Ive been a wow player since release, private servered since fenix, emerald dream, warsong, nostalriua, classic era.
I’ve bene in your situation a few times but sticking around this long is crazy toxic to your mental health… i cant believe you went through all that trouble going by individual loga and giving people pointers… insane… i admire your persistence but i know how hard and taxing this is… hope you recover well and take some time to detox and take care of yourself and your mental health…
ohhhh this was like 3 months ago, im big chilling, was doomin for a couple days. I just run my own naxx now. and that had some similar ups and downs (still full clear week 1, but some clean ups) - this week should be our strongest roster yet :) nothing gets me down
Not surprised they're still saying slurs. They haven't grown at all since 2004.
♥
Only guild worth playing with is Wooddepartment anyway 🤷🏻♂️
is this suppose to be negative? wheres the fun in showing up with the same 40 people clearing naxx subb 1hr without a single death every week hoping u can get that extra 1% parse
I mean, I was kicked! WRONGED! I had a lot of fun helping them. I think the video shows this
are u a gay?
no sorry, but thats ok if that is your sexual orientation :)
@dwarflord nah man just actually curious no offense. U don't see the double earing thing much these days. I like ur content and takes.
@@billyumbraskey8135 Appreciate that, but know that I have a lot of haters. A lot of trolls. You could have paraphrased the question a teeny bit different :)
LMAO
@dwarflord by the way fuck these clowns. Your trash talk is the best part. We need to go back to the old days where trash talk is the norm!
Retards! XD
I'm a bit sad about you saying jajas
@@ignaciovk56 Good
Thats actually a video I wanna make at some point... the word Jaja is a bit racial based, but I do not see it as a racist term..
Are you gay?
That was entertaining! Sorry it was at your expense 🤔 I guess at least you walk away with the Lego lol 🫡
ty :) its no big deal, I was having fun helping them, the kicked me, they cant kill anything. oh well
You're not innocent here. You played them just as much as they played you.
Fair Game I say.
I wouldnt say I played them, I would have raided with them tilll the end of days. I think you see all of our good times in the video. End of the day I have no bad blood with them, and most of them do not have any with me and actually liked the video :)
@dwarflord I know your type, You take no responsibility ever for anything so it doesn't matter what I say, You're gonna dodge accountability the way you dodge sincerity.
@@matthewharrington5990 I know your type, no matter what I say, you will not agree!
Cool story bro.