and there's a community of people at Yale that influence him during his formative years. he doesn't exist in a vacuum in Yale. Saul is basically a pseudo-intellectual.
Thadius Sean it has been proven that people who get accepted into ivy league but don’t attend end up being just as successful later in life as people who graduated from these colleges
@@akutenshi6946 well theres not too much proof about that. I mean, Who would not attend an Ivy leage if they were admitted? Bill and Mark are not examples since they attend. They drop just because they had veeeery promising projects. And the fact that they were Harvard students gave them cache in many diferent ways to reach that projects.
No one asked but I graduated highschool in 2020 with a 2.0 gpa (3.0 on a 5.0 scale) and a low SAT so naturally I had no choice but to choose a community college. I attended a community for the first 2 years, had a straight 4.0 for both years, transfered over to a private D1 university and had scholarships which brought my yearly tuition down from $55K to $20K. I've had a straight 4.0 since I've transferred over and I'm planning on going to law school after I graduate in 2024. So far, I was accepted into Yale, Columbia, Duke and UChicago. Would I be able to do all of this without my community college? Absolutely not. It's a wonderful stepping stone and I don't think anyone should be ashamed of it.
you're truly an inspiration and you encourage me to not be ashamed of my GPA or sat because, in the end, it's my hard work that will pay off. i aspire to go to law school and your accomplishments drive me to focus on my college education, regardless of the institution or the prestige, and work hard towards my goal. i would love to connect with you and talk more about how you were able to accomplish so much.
@@andreamercado-cruz6229 your hardwork will pay off trust me! There's nothing more you can do besides giving your best and most importantly believing in yourself. Best of luck
I feel sad that some of the community college kids are talking about some of their shame from community college and the old man is just happy to have completed school. He’s THE BEST
@idk Neither would I, yet as you admit, it remains an exception. The question should be one of intelligibility, and my statement was perfectly clear without your addition. Neither did you help nor hinder our points, nor take the conversation in a relevant or interesting direction. You could really jump in to almost any conversation and say, "but also gay people," and complain when people ignore you or roll their eyes and sigh heavily or, as I am doing, pedantically explain how to not be a tool. But keep in mind that the condescension will not be because of gay people, but because of you.
Elsie Wilson fair. And tbh it is something to brag about and be proud of, but I personally wouldn’t mention such thing around people who tried to get it but couldn’t I’d feel bad about it
I understand that, but also do you think that he would have worked as hard as he did if he didn't have the goal of Yale in mind? So in a sense, didn't Yale instill a sense of whatever it was that got him in?
@@ishaujiang9332 I have a friend who was clueless, he just followed his parents' instruction and went to Harvard. "I just did what my parents told me." And then, it's Harvard that shaped him into the person he is now. He got the motivation, he changed the way of thinking, his attitude.... I agreed with what Saul said but the 'environment' does affect people too. If you are working in a place where all the ppl are punctual, doesn't it encourage you to be a 'punctual' person at work as well?
Mara Flores Imagine a sailor in the Navy. Being in the Navy says a lot about that man. He is courageous, a risk-taker, and among other traits, he also has a willingness to serve and defend the country that he loves. What does he do? He serves his country. What does he attend? The Navy. The statement you just quoted is one of the most counterintuitive, contradictory, and redundant statements I have ever heard in my lifetime. Now, would you say attending an Ivy League school says a lot about who you are? You might think that an Ivy Leaguer is privileged, wealthy, extremely bright, and has good connections. All of those things have a say in that Ivy Leaguer’s personality; it is not a bad thing to admit, and not everyone who shares those traits have the same personality, there are serval more traits that shape up that Ivy Leaguer. However, they attend an Ivy League school. They attend a school that they worked their entire lives to go to. They do what they attend. Even if you don’t accomplish something, you are defined by that and your potential to improve.
@@bryanmgonzalez Counter-intuitive, sure. Contradictory, absolutely not. Some people become police officers because they're sadists and enjoy shooting a gun. Some people sign up to be nurses and then verbally, and in worse cases physically mistreat their patients. Some teachers act like they love to educate the future generation but are secretly sexual predators. They got the credentials, they've completed "attending" their institutions, but they do misdeeds. And ultimately you are accountable for what you do. Even if it's an accident, even if some negative life event damaged you in some way, what you do (or don't do) defines who you are and who you've become. He didn't say you're NEVER what you attend; he said you're not *necessarily* what you attend. Meaning that sure, there are benchmarks that can reasonably justify a certain personal brand or trait. But they don't NEED to define you, and how you define yourself is up to you, no matter how anyone else perceives you. And that's the point.
I got accepted into UC Berkeley, Cornell, and Harvard. I went to UC Berkeley for since it was the most affordable of the three and had a great first year. Unfortunately, there was a family member that needed hospice care and my mom was overwhelmed. This was after a divorce that happened two years before. I left and went to community college. I was so angry at that time, not at my family but at the situation. But it was what I needed to humble myself. I’m actually doing a lot better now, no debt, graduated, have two profession in two different fields and planning to go to med school.
You could have just asked Berkeley for a leave of absence and done the same thing at the CC before returning to Berkeley. These comments seem like a lot of people don't realize this.
I'm honestly more impressed in the old man who graduated recently. There is so much courage in pursuing higher education when one is older. College name doesn't matter.
@Naomi Me, its kinda hard to digest the fact that you lost a competition for scholarship because of a 40+ someone who we knew already had his own company. (mind you this was for freshmen it the first month)
when you're that old, no, I wouldn't think so or if you are pursuing higher education simply to learn more and expand your knowledge which is always a great thing to do. However, when you're looking for job opportunities, you better believe college names matter. Some doors close depending on whether or not your school is recognized and some doors open if the employer has specific ties to your school or wants to use your reputable school for marketing purposes e.g. sales/front office positions.
You can tell that this deeply effects the girl with the pink hair. It hurts when it feels like you have so much to offer, but no resources. Rooting for you, pink hair girl!
@@steventolerhan5110 she didn't complain about not being able to get into ivy league or even a university she was just saying that CC was only a viable option because of the price
@steven tolerhan I think anyone who has made it into or even just made a reasonable application to an Ivy League school knows it's definitely not just the grades
I really liked him too, would have appreciated to see another elderly person representing the Ivy League group, just to have wise perspectives from both sides
Ik that is a great trait to have. Message do not base your life on I might not be around for this bc you never know. Just do what makes you happy (as long as you are not harming anyone). Cliché IK but it works.
Yeah, but depends on hours worked. It's more self boasting to say I worked 3 jobs and all three d's up to 8 hours. I know this because I also hand two jobs on campus equal to 36 hours a week but my outside campus job was 36hrs by itself so my work week was 72 hours not including 15 hours course load I did this for almost 3years.
Cory's attitude about Yale is less of an individual problem and is more of a symptom of how many people think their self worth is tied to the prestige of their career and education, and think you have to be a superstar to succeed.
Well as much as you try to deny it but of course your job and salary and education are tied to your character, which is why you find a lot of similarities between people who share one of them. For example, you tend to find people at harder universities more disciplined
@@passingforcoffee249 discipline has almost nothing to do with character... you can be "disciplined" and be a terrible person who only cares about themself and what they have to gain. There are so many rich people who view lower class citizens the same as animals. That's not exactly a positive character trait.
@@moca545 do you own the school? It's literally just a building. When it gets EVENTUALLY bulldozed, you'll just be bragging about a plot of land that once had a building on it. You need more love in your life. What school you went to doesn't mean much. It's the job you actually get that matters in the world.
I loved having guys like that in my classes at El Camino. It's good to have older role models at college that aren't professors. I still am friends 20 years later with some of the "older" students but now I'm 40 they are more my peers.
I have an Ivy League degree, but later took some classes at my local community collage. The community college professors were top notch and the college played an active role in providing study groups, something more prestigious universities don’t do. The selling point of an Ivy League school is the prestige of having gotten accepted, not the quality of the education. The professors are rewarded for publishing, not for there skill as teachers.
I'm currently attending community college, I never felt like I was getting a substandard education or something... of course, I live in a major city and some of my professors would also lecture at nearby universities, so my experience may be different than someone in a rural part of the US. The only reason why there is still a stigma where I live just has to do with class. 🤷♀️
Yeah well that Ivy League degree didn’t help with spelling did it? Just kidding I hate when people correct spelling. I most likely made a mistake typing this anyway.
Imagine going to multiple colleges (never mind why you would go to an ivy and be successful, then randomly go to a CC) and never figuring out that the point was not to have the information dropped into your mouth like you're a baby bird.
The girls that felt bad or embarrassed for going to a community college should absolutely be proud of themselves for their efforts. Your worth starts with your self - and they are doing something very worthy.
“It’s not where you attend but what you do with it.” I go to a university that’s in the top 3% in the country, my family and I live in a big, beautiful House in a wealthy suburban neighborhood. How can we afford this you ask? Because of the nursing degree that my mother got at a community college.
I really do feel that one. I may not attend a big fancy school and I know the way people look at me when I say I go to community college but when I look around me seeing so many of my classmates struggling just to afford life and school, I can’t help but feel so lucky and grateful that I had parents that worked their asses off to make sure I wouldn’t HAVE to worry about that.
aids It is most definitely a shot in the dark. I really don’t understand why people tend to bring race into everything. I also don’t understand why they assume that someone with certain features can’t have two black parents. My BLACK mom succeeded because she put the work in. Your ignorance is showing 🤷🏽♂️
@@TimothyRichard12345 I'm getting my nursing degree at a community College right now. Paying for it with my GI Bill after 12 yrs of service. No shame here and good on you for respecting your mom for putting in the work. Respect👍🏻
I'll just say it ... No one is lucky 17 times in a row, that girl has something special that apparently every university admission center saw. And there's nothing wrong with it, it's wonderful for her.
@@ZarriawithaJ Yes ... 4 or 5 of 17, it can be. And I don't know if she was just trying to be nice to everyone, but that way of establishing that everything was luck and nothing special about her... Hopefully it was really that kindness of not wanting to sound bad, because she really deserves to be proud of it.
@@eri6984 I think she mentioned that she liked Yale since they support the artists in there, she is an artist, and generally artists have fun doing their art. Apart from that it is a myth that to be excellent at something you must give up "fun", with a balanced life it is possible to develop intellectually or artistically.
Saul is so wise and well spoken. I love the line “it came from within you, Yale didn’t put that there.” He really wants to make sure they all knew that you are you because of you and not because of a building. I want to go read his books now
It was pretty easy to spot that she is the most thoughtful/insightful person there for her age, she considers both sides of the equation, which signifies intelligence. Easy to see why she was accepted everywhere. I think she was being humble.
Asad Zulfiqar I don’t think she’s saying that Cassandra got accepted bc she’s only intelligent, I think she wants to know the other contributing factors outside of her academics bc you need more than academics to make it into any college anymore
@@asadzulfiqar7911 I respectfully disagree. I think Emily was also very insightful and thoughtful and between the two of them, I wouldn't say that either is "more" thoughtful/insightful per say than the other.
@@norelyly1196 I do not disagree with you. I am just stating that it is evident that Cassandra is capable of being accepted to those institutions. There are a couple traits, like low self-esteem that hold back Emily, but I do think she is very capable and given more conducive personal circumstances, she could be just as successful as Cassandra.
Kayla O. He looks incredible for 85! I’m sure his constant drive to progress in life regardless of his age is helpful in keeping his mind and body young!
some of the things cory says do raise red flags but y’all gotta cut him some slack- y’all are literally hating on him for being proud of making it to yale. he’s said that yale was his goal all his life and as a first gen asian american kid his parents hv put expectations and emphasis on education so he probably feels extremely satisfied with himself knowing he’s made his parents and himself proud. the only thing i’m worried about is after he graduates yale he might just lose his way and be a little confused on what he does after that since he alr made it to yale, his goal
I really appreciate how they included Saul because there are actually a lot of older people in college/university and he was able to add in an interesting perspective. (even though he currently isn't in CC)
I had a 99 year old ww2 vet in one of my psychology classes a couple years ago. He would always interrupt the class to tell 5 minute stories about the good old days that had nothing at all to do with what we were talking about, but the professor always felt too bad to cut him off lol. Really interesting guy though.
Man I have a lot of respect for older people going back to school to improve themselves or to learn something new. I can't imagine looking that good and still being motivated to do new things at 85.
I was friends in high school with a girl who started at our local community college and now works for Boeing on the international space station and just got recognized as one of the women of the space program. You don’t need to go to an Ivy League school to do great things!
Marisa Gabay agree. However Ivy League makes it easier to achieve those lofty goals since it’s open a lot of the doors. Again not saying it’s impossible and your friend is quite the impressive person to make it.
True. Going to an Ivy League may be an important step in your career, but having the right attitude and perspective and willing to work hard toward your dreams matters more.
I’m a community college student, and I can tell you no matter what college you go to life is not easy. That last question really hit me, and yes, you DO need to know someone to get somewhere you want to be. I’ve had different job interviews that wouldn’t give me a chance. The two jobs I did get, one seasonal and the one I’m working now, let me work for them because I knew someone in the company. Same at my college, my mom knows someone in the school counseling office and I was able to get the help I needed. And no matter what school you go too, you are NEVER guaranteed a job after school
@@beldinlov13 facts, he just showed that it was his choices who made it who he was and that it wasn't a prestigious college. Couldn't had said it any better.
Well while i loved that comment from saul you have to understand that college can change you, like a lot. Its a whole new independent experience. While it was him who got into yale, yale helped him to refine himself and hes just proud of where he is now
I was going to say the same thing. Not only that, but mentally he seems to be doing really well. All the 85-year-olds I know, which I suppose isn't many..they have all slowed down significantly. If you had asked me how old Saul was I would have said late 50s, early 60s.
I went to an Ivy League, my husband went to a Community College. In so many aspects, he is smarter than me. I love being able to say I worked my ass off and got into my school, but it never diminishes his road to get his degree. I am incredibly proud of him for getting his bachelors. In the end, that’s all that matters.
I had the grades to go to a 4 year university but decided to start at community college because it was cheaper, closer to home, and classes were much smaller therefore giving me more confidence to ask questions when needed. Fast forward and I'm currently awaiting my application status to my dream university. Community college is honestly underrated
yes I think so too!! if you do a transfer degree there's no time wasted, and you'll spend your first 2 years in a more affordable and comfortable environment. I never got the hype around prestigious universities.
Shirley Tatha that’s is definitely respectful but on campus jobs don’t offer many hours to students. My state doesn’t allow its university students to work over 25 hours a week due to not wanting to give benefits but I’m not sure if the Ivy League system is different.
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If she got in for soccer, does that mean that she wouldn't have gotten in based on her smarts? If the school is only for the brightest, does she struggle academically? (I assume she's fine, she sounds articulate. But it just goes to show that the Ivies are only for the smart people.)
@@Sbeth85 It's not just about your grades and intellect for Ivy schools anymore. There are millions of people with As in their AP classes that don't get into these schools because Ivy wants a person who does sports, has good grades, plays an instrument and has done a decent amount of volunteering and charity work. The standards are insane from what I've heard.
Why is no one talking about how sweet Emily seemed? Like pretty grounded for being a Princeton kid. And she’s working three jobs, on the soccer team, and going to class?! Dang.
As someone who went to community college and then transferred to a private 4 year, it’s not the school that makes you, it’s your brain capacity. I could tell anyone I went to any Ivy League and they would believe me. There is only a stigma associated with CC’s if you internalize it. The education you get is what you make of it no matter where you go.
@@pitapiitaa my credits all transferred because I chose classes that my 4 year would accept. Most CC’s have transfer pathways set up to 4 year colleges so they make it easy for you to make the transition.
Saul is def. the person in the group I'd listen to. He's right, your accomplishments are what you die with. A degree, or identity is worthless without action
I agree! I started at a community college, then I moved on to Sarah Lawrence College. I've had some of my best instructors from community college. That's not to say SLC doesn't have great professors, but my community college did have stellar teachers.
I got some of my best basics required to do what I am doing now at a CC. Several years later, I’m on my way to med school. I actually started this path after 30. I remember alot of my “friends” who went to ivy league schools used to openly and passively put me down for being not smart. None of them have the academic level that I have currently. It is as Saul says: It is what you do with your life. I went to school to do what I am passionate about, not for the title. Nobody gives a flying crap by the time you are in your mid 30s and everyone is worrying about their bills, family, and important things like your parents getting older and sicker.
The Princeton actually has the best mindset in this. She saw through Trinity’s insecurity and actually uplifted Trinity. The Princeton girl worked hard for what she has.
The Yale kids came off as really pretentious. I got my masters at Cal State LA and tuition there is low cost and many of the professors there are super also awarded for their contributions to academia. One of the department chairs is even a co-founder of the LA Black Lives Matter chapter.
I think that Yale girl is humble enough. She did admit it’s mostly about luck. But that Asian dude who went to Yale is pretentious like some of you said. (I know some of you may say I am only green eyed. For what is worth, I went to one of the Ivy leagues too...)
@@charlesmichael2806 I agree, Cassandra and Emily were honestly quite humble and Cory wasn’t being great, I think he probably has some like male privelage thing
The college education system in America is unfair because your mistakes follow you like a criminal record. I get academic dishonesty or plagiarism, but not getting a bad grade in a class. It makes going back to school extremely difficult, expensive, and can automatically disqualify you from so many opportunities just because of mistakes you made when you were a teenager.
To be fair, plagiarism is like THE thing you aren't supposed to do in academia. It's basically fraud. You are attempting to gain an edge over other people who you are competing against in school, and by extension the job market, by blatantly lying about your capabilities through theft of another person's work. That's the cardinal sin. That's the one thing that everybody tells you not to do a million times before you ever get your first college assignment and a million more times afterward.
Absolutely. I find it quite ridiculous that these decisions are made when we’re literal children, and yet, they carry on to negatively affect our lives
You have so many options though. You can drop the class, make it pass/fail, retake it to show you improved. And some college students are teens sure, but they’re also adults, maybe 5 years from getting a full time job. Jobs won’t hold your hand through big time mistakes.
@@leguminous7564 I think they’re also talking about hs classes, cause those follow you for years. Colleges and Universities will look at you hs grades and they can choose not to except you if you failed a class. With hs you can’t just drop the course and retake it another year either. You can obviously retake the course but you’ll still have the previous grade on you transcript. But I do agree that’s jobs won’t hold your hands through mistakes but a lot of times they will give multiple chances. Where as colleges and universities can be way more “picky” in a sense.
Yeah shout out to the firefighters, construction workers, estheticians, electricians, carpenters, and artists. Most importantly shout out to the under-paid lifesavers: lifeguards, and emts/paramedics. Shout out to those who continue to work in jobs that are being automated bc our consumer-capitalist society did you dirty.
Romeo Barnes actually if two employees have the same standard level of education and workplace performance the worker with a College degree will get the raise/promotion. Assuming workplace discrimination isn’t a factor.
when the CC students talked about how embarrassed they are about their school, the fact that the ivy league students tried comforting them into changing their mindset rather than acknowledging/criticizing that they had to be embarrassed in the first place proves a point for me. don’t get me wrong it was a great discussion and the ivy league students were beyond nice and compassionate it’s just really difficult to say that these two have the same playing field in their lives
this comment! the ivy students felt the need to assure them as if their assurance was necessary validation for the cc students to feel okay about their decision to attend cc. the ivy students were compassionate but condescending and not very understanding of the cc students situations.
@@renoseiji The ivy league students weren't being condescending. I feel like you didn't listen to the entirety of what they said, but only the part where that one girl said "you're really well spoken" etc. But, she was saying that in order to follow up with her actual point - she was using the community college student's positive attributes to show that the stigma is incorrect. She basically said, "you're really smart, and that's why you and community college students who value their time at their schools shouldnt listen to the stigma". This does not sound like an assurance at all to me. I only have an issue with the point about a stigma against ivy league students, because it is not as significant and really doesn't do as much damage to people as a stigma against community college students does.
So much respect for Emily. Working three jobs, and getting in to an ivy league school through soccer. I could barely balance working 20 hours a week while in community college!
I’m in medical school and I really believe more people should go to CC. Nobody asks their doctor where their first 2 years of undergrad were done, but having less debt is everything...
The only issue is that it’s often difficult to find the same resources at CC that’s available at a larger university, ie advisors, mentors, research faculty, and leadership that round out competitive medical school applications. It’s also hard to say it but name value still does carry pretty significant weight for admission committees at all levels of graduate/postgraduate training. When I was applying for residency, one interviewer actually told me to rank my programs based on reputation because it is very difficult to move to a higher tier program for fellowship and very likely to move to a lower tier one. I ended up not doing that because there are more important things to life than name value.
Ayla yes, I don’t think you can get into Yale medical school with CC chemistry. But programs are SO competitive these days, most pre meds are just happy to get in anywhere. I’ve also never asked my doctor if they went to a prestigious medical school because I think residency location is more telling.....
I’ve never experienced shame with community college. It was such a great stepping stone and so affordable. One semester at the university I transferred to after my AA was more than my total associates. I’m proud of the choice I made because it allowed me to make better financial decisions. I loved community college and if you’re not sure what you want to yet, it’s a great way to have time to decided by taking affordable courses that can transfer to something else.
My wife went to private uni and I went to community college/state school. She left with a $60k debt and I walked out with $0. I’m 35yrs old and working as a programmer with $100k+/salary. Who cares where you go. Faq it. You will be successful because you will use your brain to get there. Work hard and think forward.
Ohhh I really like this idea. It would be cool to see this on a lot of their debate/middle ground episodes as reunion to see where they stand in 5/10/15 years down the road and if life experience moves them
You don't get into an ivy league college for grades, that's only a small part of it. You have to be amazing at the passions you pursue and the things that you do, that's what admission officers are looking for. And obviously she was amazing at sports and yes good grades are a sizable part of whether or not you get accepted. obviously somebody that got a 700 on their SAT a 10 on their ACT and a 2.0 GPA probably won't get accepted, but what I'm saying is that you won't get accepted for perfect grades alone.
Olivia Woloshyn I’m talking about about school jobs I’m saying I don’t think the school would let them have that many jobs and leave no time for school work so I’m saying someone like a mom 3 jobs is different then her school 3 jobs
That's insane. You could have an amazing application and basically be a champion at everything you do in life but even that may not be enough; there is still luck involved into the process.
I love SAULLLLLLLLL!!!! There’s real WISDOM from all that experience. It’s super sad that anyone finds their identity by their college and feels a sense of superiority, plus all these Ivy’s seem to be getting a free ride. YAY for the community college students who will have less debt!
community college student here! I went to a state university for a year and did HORRIBLY (I had personal things going on and it was the 2020-2021 school year, so needless to say things were challenging). I took a year off before deciding to go back to school. my governor offered free community college to all state residents who graduate/graduated high school in 2020-2023, so it seemed like a no-brainer. I didn't end up qualifying for that scholarship because I got too much aid money (as in full-ride, plus almost $1000 surplus) (and I'm not complaining, I'm so grateful because I could not have afforded to go otherwise). I have to say that I have found so many resources and forms of support within my school that I never saw when I went to a university. I have also found that the only stigma I've faced when sharing that I go to a community college comes from myself. I used to be so embarrassed that I wasn't going to a "real" school. but you know what? my degree will be just as "real" as one a person who went to an ivy league will earn. I'm proud to go to a community college, and I'll gladly tell anybody who asks.
I'm a senior HS while doing cert on Health Support Services in tradeschool and will graduate this year. Tight on money to pay for tuition and was thinking of going to community college because apparently, the tuition from university made me gulp and think of my life choices.
Arran Vid it may not matter to some people, but her acceptances really shows her hardworking ability (especially with asians being less likely to be accepted into colleges). no one gets into an ivy league cause they’re “just smart” and she definitely worked her butt off.
No one applies to 17 schools because they actually want to go to all of them. I feel like she applied just to see if she could get in and now she has something cool to brag about.
sara kroczyk Exactly 👍. But then again I've seen some vids about people applying to quite a few places. But it would be for the same reason, to brag...
I want to see a video about ivy league graduates vs community college graduates and the difference between the treatment from their jobs, debt and stuff
Most people don't "graduate" from CC, unless it's a 2 year degree. Their diploma will be from whatever 4-year institution they graduated from. I'm just being pedantic thought. But honestly, I don't think they'll be treated any differently. I just think that Ivy League kids will get hired from whatever business/company has good connections with the school. I do think that Ivy League students will have to deal with more debt though, but a lot of Ivy Leagues do have programs to pay for student's tuitions if their family makes less than "x" amount per year. Edit: I would like to add that Lone Star, the big Community College system throughout Texas, is only a 2 year college. Idk about other schools, but I've only heard about CC being 2 years
Community College grad here. I transferred to a university after two years and went on to grad school. I work in a consulting firm and I'm not treated or paid differently than my coworkers who didn't attend community college :)
I think it matters mainly upon when you're trying to get your first job in your particular field. Otherwise, you have your job experience and abilities to fall back on.
Speaking personally on behalf of the debt side of things: if you grew up poor like I did you sort of get amazing funding for Community College (at least where I live in Utah), and all my tuition and then some is paid outright with Pell Grants and other state ran programs I am in. Now if my tuition was doubled, which it could be if I ever transferred out to say, the U of U, than the Pell would not cover everything, but the Pell and my additional state provided 4K would. Overall, if you put in the effort to apply for various state and federal funding, the generally low cost of Community College can save a bunch of money for what would be essentially a very very comparable education to "Better" colleges.
I don't think Trinity realises how awesome she is. She's well spoken, intelligent, I loved her answers. She also made the sacrifice of getting a free/cheap education to give her siblings more opportunities.
@@anonanon36 I low-key feel where she's coming from because as a person that does go to CC I've been ridiculed by my ex fellow classmates countless times and it hurts
After I graduated high school I was super psyched to go to the school of my dreams but then I lost all my financial aid to finance my way so I decided to go to community college. I can honestly say that, though I was soul crushed, I am so glad I decided not to bury myself in debt from my undergrad years! It was the best choice I could’ve made. I’ve met quite a few amazing professors at community college who are passionate about their areas of expertise and it was truly a treasure. I transferred to USC and received a full ride! It’s a complete different experience but nevertheless I am enjoying my time here regardless. You can get anywhere you set your mind too as long as you put in the effort and have amazing support systems!
@@luckyduck_. Well for USC in particular, I recommend that if you come from a low income household you should apply for FAFSA and submit your CSS Profile for USC. They give you A LOT of financial aid if you qualify under FAFSA. I’m not sure exactly what the conditions are but I’d recommend speaking with a CPA or someone who knows the inner workings of these things to see your options otherwise. If you do happen to go down the FAFSA + CSS profile route USC will ask you for a lot of documents regarding your income (or your parent’s income if they claim you as a dependent), expenses, relationships, etc. it can get tedious but I promise you the end goal is so so so worth it. I got a total of about 75k in financial aid per year. I even lost some at the last minute as well, but that didn’t matter because USC gave me 10k extra to make up for the aid I lost. I can’t speak for all schools but speaking from experience, private institutions have huge endowments which means more financial aid especially for low income families. For instance, while weighing my options of whether to go to UCLA or USC I went to USC because they gave me more money. However, every school operates differently, and the documents they request will be slightly different so I highly suggest doing more research if you are looking into a different school other than USC. Most of how I got a full ride was because I was claimed as a dependent from a low income household so I’m not sure what advice I could give if you aren’t in the same financial position as me. Regardless, I really wish you well, and hope you get into the school of your dreams!
"Cory and Saul" would make a great sitcom...the nerdy Ivy Grad who inherited his parents' big mansion but is left with the wise old handyman who gets him out of his shell with weekly adventures. Netflix, let's chat.
I went to community college, transferred to a four-year university, and currently attend law school at an Ivy League university. When I compare my community college professors to my Ivy League professors, there is no difference. I can honestly say the level of education I have received has been the same at all three of these institutions. It really is a shame that there is such a stigma around going to community college.
Law is law, marketing is marketing whether you go to ivy league or community college. The thing is ivy league has a massive network and easier to reach opportunities.
I concur. It doesn’t matter if your professor is famous or one of the most influential academics in his circle if he doesn’t care for teaching or his students. I’ve had professors who are obviously at the brand name university for their research grants. They’re brilliant alright, but they don’t like their students and I don’t learn very much from them.
I think just being accepted by a prestigious school “proves” you are hardworking, talented, smart, etc. to the general public even if the education is the same. It’s only because it’s competitive that it’s deemed more worthy, much like a supply and demand idea.
You are just paying the “name” of the school as well as word “prestigious” that comes after it when you attend Ivy League school but in reality there’s no difference.
A personal anecdote from 2 colleges out of the 100s in the US is a pretty substantial claim. If we look at this factually, funding and resource wise, this is incorrect. As well as certain quality of life things. I can still say I slightly agree with you through only because I believe education during your Brian development ages which is below 18, are definitely the most important. That’s where you get your work ethic, that’s where education varies greatly, and that’s where you are the most influenced by your environment. And at the same time you also retain information better then any other age.
@@jordanleighwheatley There are only 8 Ivies. But there are other schools that people see as equivalent like Stanford, Duke, and MIT. The Ivy League is just an athletic conference
@@katerinafolvarcna1698 Schools are businesses. They try to select individuals who they think could go on to make a ton money (like think mark zuckerberg kinds of money) that they then could donate to the school, or who could then serve as networking nodes for future students.
I’m so proud of Saul for graduating at his age. It’s never too late to do something you’re passionate about whether it’s graduating with a degree or whatever else sparks your interest.
@Aubrey No, maybe he didn’t have an opportunity before. The strive to learn and educate yourself is something that should always be appreciated regardless of age.
@Aubrey Some people just don’t have that opportunity to go to college when they’re 17 or 18. Some people were just raised and influenced wrongly, some people can’t afford it, and some people have to stay behind and take care of loved ones. Don’t be insensitive and try to push year ideals onto others.
During my National Honor Society ceremony, my high school randomly announced only one student's college decision and that was the one student who got into Harvard in my school. They didn't bother to announce the fact that so many other students there were doing something with their lives after high school whether that be college or work or something else. Everyone stood up and clapped for him and I felt invisible. I had the same GPA as this kid, more extracurricular commitments, and more involvement in the school community (and I know plenty of kids in the national honor society who also did a lot more during their time in high school) but none of us got celebrated. I'm going to the city college of New York and for some reason despite how amazing the morals of the school are (with having been the first free college attended by immigrants and poor minorities in NYC with the only main focus of the admissions process being on the merit of these students), ivy league students still get the spotlight over everyone else.
I was also in National Honor Society, one student got called out for going to Berkley (everyone else neglected). I was ranked in the middle of my class and nobody ever heard of my university. 1 Associate's Degree, 2 Bachelor Degrees, and almost a Master's Degree later, I forgot who that kid was. I've always embraced the sleeper status and I encourage others to do the same as well. Underdogs always prevail. I'm rooting for you!
public schoolers would rage on the private schoolers lmao , no one at private school hates public school kids but all public school kids hate private school kids
I think it’s true though, it’s not easy but like you wouldn’t care what people thought if you knew how little thought they gave to something, like at the end of the day you have to go to school and deal with it so why not be proud, be proud that you’re at school to get a higher education, most don’t, a lot of my friends go to top schools and I’m proud of them for their accomplishments but I also love my school and am so proud of it and honored to go there.
I hope the Yale guy doesn't feel lost when he leaves his school. Claiming anything other than yourself is completely responsible for who you are & your entire character is not a good thing.
Claiming that you are defined entirely by yourself and not by the community you inhabit and the people around you isn't "good," it's deeply naive. I don't understand why so many commentators here live in a fantasy world where humans come into adulthood as fully formed autonomous beings, as if its shocking that spending 4 years of your life somewhere, entrenched in its culture inevitably becomes key to who you are in a pretty critical part of life.
@@danielbelkin4652 Ok however you are not a product of your environment. You have the power to either be defined by it or not. But yes of course if you grew up in rural South Carolina you will have an accent and be exposed to certain aspects of culture that are unavoidable elsewhere.
Definitely you can feel attachment to your school - but at the end of the day it's not *who you are.* Like what Saul said, you're defined by what you do, not by what school you attended. I attend a prestigious school on scholarship, but while I'm obviously proud of my school, I understand that it's just a temporary thing in my life. It's not my forever thing. I'm always going to cherish the friendships and memories, but I'm not gonna carry my education with me forever.
Every community you become a part of is going to define the things you do now and probably in the future and not only that but the person you are now and the person you will be. People build communities and communities build people and identities. Almost everything you are is a part of a social and cultural network so of course education, living in a place for a certain amount if time, is going to define you and change you. You are going to meet people and throught contact with them affirm you beliefs or adopt new ones. You are going to learn things you will use in you life, that will get you a job, through wich you will be in certain places and be a particular person. Just like with family, friends, the music you like, the things you do - everything defines you, college/uni no less, especially when you are coming of age. That's why humanitarian scienses like social and cultural anthropology are so important, they teach you that human beings are not autonomous but are in fact social beings that create culture (in a very broad sense of the word) which in turn creates human beings.
I went to a community College my first 2 years then transferred to a four year college. When I told some people that I first went to a community College, I could tell that they thought less of me for it. But I honestly enjoyed community College much more. I felt like I learned a lot more from my professors there.
I did the 2 and 2 as well and now I go to school out of state and I certainly miss the atmosphere of community college better. I don’t really have any friends at school like I did back home but I got a boyfriend out of it so in a way it worked out IG😅
I was *not* expecting her to say that she works three jobs. That's what I get for assuming that everyone who goes to an Ivy League has their parents pay their tuition lol
Diamond haha I go to Princeton and that’s a super common assumption I get when I tell people where I go to college. My parents aren’t paying anything for my education so I also work 2-3 jobs year round, definitely tough lol.
I'd like to see one about college drop outs vs college graduates. I went to a community college then transferred to a university and was so burned out and anxious when covid happened that I ended up not going back. I'm happy that it happened though because I was my identity was super attached to being in school (without really knowing what I was doing in life).
@@Kyohan137 imo, cory better personified the latter traits you were describing. he just attempted to disguise it with his choice of words. he failed miserably and came off as pretentious and arrogant, though, from what i saw. i feel as if emily was genuinely just a kind person; she saw through trinity's insecurities and lifted trinity up to the best of her ability.
@@Kyohan137 I can't really say whether or not she's elitist. She doesn't rub me that way, but maybe. She's working 3 jobs to afford her school and she talks about her and her family and what they could afford and their options. Maybe she's elitist, but she's definitely not entitled.
@@freedomofthought2940 yes but the point is that all the competition isn't exclusively from ivy league schools, and that not all people who attend ivy League schools are gonna be part of the competition.
I attended my local community college before transferring to an Ivy League school. I can share that community college students are some of the most genuine and inspiring people I’ve ever met. The negative connotation associated with community colleges is very disappointing and I completely understand why some feel embarrassed to share that they go to one. People think they are better than others because of their school - this needs to change.
Same here, I feel like my relationships with my friends in CC is a lot more genuine and long-lasting than my relationships with my "friends" in the Ivy League school I attended.
80% of my friends in college are friends from CC that transferred with me to Uni. :D The other 15% of my Uni friends were fellow transferrees from other CCs. I love how we all share that same journey.
@Math Dude My Asian parents were kinda disappointed when they know that I was going to attend cc instead of "real universities". But it turns out that attending cc really built my character that impressed the admission officers in the Ivies that I was accepted to later on. I made a group of friends in a study group I joined and they came from literally all walks of life in terms of race, gender, age, special needs, personality, religion etc. And yet, we stick together as a group, supporting each other, growing up and developing ourselves together and we became a better version of ourselves together when we're transferring to different schools.
I love this channel, and the idea that we can still have an open conversation about anything, without being "cancelled" or thinking that's its taboo.. keep up all the great work u guys and gals do, it's amazing and it's very much appreciated!! cheers
@@Thewoj2123 8 of the most prestigious schools in the nation, yeah who cares about that Edit: May I add that mostly accept the strongest students internationally, who are incredibly gifted in their academic passions to the point where they can win international or national competitions in the subject, or started an organization that impacted hundreds/thousands of people, or started a very successful business, yeah nothing much
We just did an episode where we briefly highlight an immigrant who was accepted to 3 ivy league schools: Columbia, UPenn, and Harvard. Like you said Gianna, muy impressive.
The girl with the pinkish hair sounds a little uncomfortable being a CC student... like she'd like to be "more". I wish she knew she is doing great already.
i am 32 now going to CC again.. well i am in culinary school which is in CC and i am comfortable with it and proud of it but when i was 18. i also went to CC and i was so embarrassed about it because many of my friends went to better universities and i felt like a failure. it's really strange because now that i am older. i realise it doesn't matter and by the time you 30. no one cares except for when you are applying for a job. lol
Shes probably had to many ppl in her life tell her or give her the sense that her community college education is less valuable and that's a shame. I hope after this experience she'll be more prideful about attending a CC
At the end of the video she joked about going to Yale and taking pictures “I’m a Yale student”. You can definitely see where she really wishes she was given a different set of cards in life.
to be fair she's studying to be a novelist, and her criteria for school choice was based on proximity, affordability and that her friends went there. Then, put her in this situation, no wonder she's defensive and not comfortable.
I'm a single mom, paying for college out of pocket, and working full time. It's hard but I'm so proud of myself for doing it. This is my fifth degree but it'll be the one that I'll be able to sustain a position in.
ok but like actually imagine getting into all eight ivy-leagues like what? like kudos to her. that’s incredible
That just sounds like debt
If you get it into one, it's going to be easy to get into all, they all look for similar things and have roughly the same requirements.
@@Anon-f7f not if you get a scholarship
I need to know what she did cause I could use some tips😂
@@berdyne just gonna put myself right here so I can get a notification if she does give out tips in the comments
"You're the one that got into Yale, It came from here and You, Yale didn't put that in you" - Speak your Wisdom Saul
and there's a community of people at Yale that influence him during his formative years. he doesn't exist in a vacuum in Yale. Saul is basically a pseudo-intellectual.
@@thadiussean9133 So are you...
Thadius Sean it has been proven that people who get accepted into ivy league but don’t attend end up being just as successful later in life as people who graduated from these colleges
@@akutenshi6946 well theres not too much proof about that. I mean, Who would not attend an Ivy leage if they were admitted? Bill and Mark are not examples since they attend. They drop just because they had veeeery promising projects. And the fact that they were Harvard students gave them cache in many diferent ways to reach that projects.
Generic wisdom. And yeah a pseudo-intellect is a perfect way of explaining that.
Good for Saul. No one is too old to pursue educations or their dreams
I commented this too, what a sweetie
Amen 🗣️
Saul pursued Paul in the Bible 🤷🏾♂️
When he said he was 85, I couldn’t believe it, because he looks so good for his age.
The flash Vroomvroom beyatch better call saul
No one asked but I graduated highschool in 2020 with a 2.0 gpa (3.0 on a 5.0 scale) and a low SAT so naturally I had no choice but to choose a community college. I attended a community for the first 2 years, had a straight 4.0 for both years, transfered over to a private D1 university and had scholarships which brought my yearly tuition down from $55K to $20K. I've had a straight 4.0 since I've transferred over and I'm planning on going to law school after I graduate in 2024. So far, I was accepted into Yale, Columbia, Duke and UChicago. Would I be able to do all of this without my community college? Absolutely not. It's a wonderful stepping stone and I don't think anyone should be ashamed of it.
Wow! Congratulations on your hard work! It sucks there’s a stigma for people in CC’s but they really help.
damn congrats!
you're truly an inspiration and you encourage me to not be ashamed of my GPA or sat because, in the end, it's my hard work that will pay off. i aspire to go to law school and your accomplishments drive me to focus on my college education, regardless of the institution or the prestige, and work hard towards my goal. i would love to connect with you and talk more about how you were able to accomplish so much.
@@andreamercado-cruz6229 your hardwork will pay off trust me! There's nothing more you can do besides giving your best and most importantly believing in yourself. Best of luck
It gives me hope, I'm so happy for you as well
I feel sad that some of the community college kids are talking about some of their shame from community college and the old man is just happy to have completed school. He’s THE BEST
50 year old dude hangs out with 18-22 year old girls all day and is happy with his life? Do tell.
SuB SONiC it's weird but he probably doesn't have the intentions
@@snowcatapeller Not sure I get what you mean. I'm just joking that he probably likes going to school with young ladies, like any other human male.
@idk Qualifiers and exceptions aren't necessary when stating a rule.
@idk Neither would I, yet as you admit, it remains an exception.
The question should be one of intelligibility, and my statement was perfectly clear without your addition. Neither did you help nor hinder our points, nor take the conversation in a relevant or interesting direction.
You could really jump in to almost any conversation and say, "but also gay people," and complain when people ignore you or roll their eyes and sigh heavily or, as I am doing, pedantically explain how to not be a tool. But keep in mind that the condescension will not be because of gay people, but because of you.
Saul saying, “Yale didn’t put that into you” wow! He’s so wise and kind. That young man def needed to hear that
i felt like the other dude was kinda bragging about it
Elsie Wilson fair. And tbh it is something to brag about and be proud of, but I personally wouldn’t mention such thing around people who tried to get it but couldn’t I’d feel bad about it
So many people needed to hear that
I understand that, but also do you think that he would have worked as hard as he did if he didn't have the goal of Yale in mind? So in a sense, didn't Yale instill a sense of whatever it was that got him in?
@@ishaujiang9332 I have a friend who was clueless, he just followed his parents' instruction and went to Harvard. "I just did what my parents told me." And then, it's Harvard that shaped him into the person he is now. He got the motivation, he changed the way of thinking, his attitude.... I agreed with what Saul said but the 'environment' does affect people too. If you are working in a place where all the ppl are punctual, doesn't it encourage you to be a 'punctual' person at work as well?
“You are what you do, not necessarily what you attend.” - Saul
Mara Flores Imagine a sailor in the Navy. Being in the Navy says a lot about that man. He is courageous, a risk-taker, and among other traits, he also has a willingness to serve and defend the country that he loves. What does he do? He serves his country. What does he attend? The Navy. The statement you just quoted is one of the most counterintuitive, contradictory, and redundant statements I have ever heard in my lifetime.
Now, would you say attending an Ivy League school says a lot about who you are? You might think that an Ivy Leaguer is privileged, wealthy, extremely bright, and has good connections. All of those things have a say in that Ivy Leaguer’s personality; it is not a bad thing to admit, and not everyone who shares those traits have the same personality, there are serval more traits that shape up that Ivy Leaguer. However, they attend an Ivy League school. They attend a school that they worked their entire lives to go to. They do what they attend. Even if you don’t accomplish something, you are defined by that and your potential to improve.
Bryan Gonzalez I'm an Airmen and I agree.
@@bryanmgonzalez Counter-intuitive, sure. Contradictory, absolutely not. Some people become police officers because they're sadists and enjoy shooting a gun. Some people sign up to be nurses and then verbally, and in worse cases physically mistreat their patients. Some teachers act like they love to educate the future generation but are secretly sexual predators. They got the credentials, they've completed "attending" their institutions, but they do misdeeds. And ultimately you are accountable for what you do. Even if it's an accident, even if some negative life event damaged you in some way, what you do (or don't do) defines who you are and who you've become.
He didn't say you're NEVER what you attend; he said you're not *necessarily* what you attend. Meaning that sure, there are benchmarks that can reasonably justify a certain personal brand or trait. But they don't NEED to define you, and how you define yourself is up to you, no matter how anyone else perceives you. And that's the point.
I agree, you can be a Harvard graduate and yet not make a positive impact on the world
Attending Harvard is something that you do
I got accepted into UC Berkeley, Cornell, and Harvard. I went to UC Berkeley for since it was the most affordable of the three and had a great first year. Unfortunately, there was a family member that needed hospice care and my mom was overwhelmed. This was after a divorce that happened two years before. I left and went to community college. I was so angry at that time, not at my family but at the situation. But it was what I
needed to humble myself. I’m actually doing a lot better now, no debt, graduated, have two profession in two different fields and planning to go to med school.
You could have just asked Berkeley for a leave of absence and done the same thing at the CC before returning to Berkeley. These comments seem like a lot of people don't realize this.
Nice story lol how long did it take to craft this one?
When did you attend cuz I know Berkeley is very generous with aid and would allow a leave of absence
Berkeley isnt that different from ivy league in how pretentious it is and how competitive it is - so you saved yourself lol
@@Mina-np5pl it's school, not a job. There is no LOA for class. If you have to leave, there is a waiver.
I'm honestly more impressed in the old man who graduated recently. There is so much courage in pursuing higher education when one is older. College name doesn't matter.
Absolutely! Going after something so late in life is hard but he earned a degree and no matter what school you come from that is an accomplishment.
@Naomi Me, its kinda hard to digest the fact that you lost a competition for scholarship because of a 40+ someone who we knew already had his own company. (mind you this was for freshmen it the first month)
HelloOnepiece become their sugar baby lmaoo
Tell that to pierce hawthorne
when you're that old, no, I wouldn't think so or if you are pursuing higher education simply to learn more and expand your knowledge which is always a great thing to do. However, when you're looking for job opportunities, you better believe college names matter. Some doors close depending on whether or not your school is recognized and some doors open if the employer has specific ties to your school or wants to use your reputable school for marketing purposes e.g. sales/front office positions.
You can tell that this deeply effects the girl with the pink hair. It hurts when it feels like you have so much to offer, but no resources. Rooting for you, pink hair girl!
I love her!
lol i believe her name is Trinity
she literally has a name.
@@steventolerhan5110 she didn't complain about not being able to get into ivy league or even a university she was just saying that CC was only a viable option because of the price
@steven tolerhan I think anyone who has made it into or even just made a reasonable application to an Ivy League school knows it's definitely not just the grades
When Saul said "it came from here, in you, yale didn't put that into you" actually touched me
lowkey needed that ngl
Vangster me too ! Like wow the students made YALE !
Cory didn't get it though.
What’s ngl
@@twentyfivetolife7976 not gonna lie
FIREE
Congrats to Saul for graduating college at his age. He is an inspiration for anyone to never give up.
NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT?!
NEVER GIVE UP!@@tyco1176
@@tyco1176 Never give up...
Most colleges also govern senior me free tuition which is awesome. I’d go to classes forever it was free lol
Saul had a lifetime of experience to draw on, it's a huge advantage, young people come in with nothing and offer nothing to their peers
I'm glad they had Saul in this group. HIs age and experience gave another perspective.
He was adorable 🥺❤️
So much respect for the elderly ❤️
Saul was the best 🥺
I really liked him too, would have appreciated to see another elderly person representing the Ivy League group, just to have wise perspectives from both sides
My jaw dropped when he said he's 85. He looks approx. 70!
saul going to school at this age is usually such a high anxiety situation and i am so proud of him
Ik that is a great trait to have. Message do not base your life on I might not be around for this bc you never know. Just do what makes you happy (as long as you are not harming anyone). Cliché IK but it works.
maybe back in his day there just wasnt a thing such as social anxiety
I was so happy for him when he said he recently graduated!
Is no one going to talk about how that one girl is working three jobs AND going to Princeton?! Her time management skills must be through the roof
Filiz Baltaci and she’s playing a sport too I think
Seriously tho lol
I was thinking that too, I hope she’s doing okay mentally
Allyson Reinert honestly I have no ideas how someone can even handle that mentally and physically
Yeah, but depends on hours worked. It's more self boasting to say I worked 3 jobs and all three d's up to 8 hours. I know this because I also hand two jobs on campus equal to 36 hours a week but my outside campus job was 36hrs by itself so my work week was 72 hours not including 15 hours course load I did this for almost 3years.
Cory's attitude about Yale is less of an individual problem and is more of a symptom of how many people think their self worth is tied to the prestige of their career and education, and think you have to be a superstar to succeed.
yours Matt, is truly one of the bet comments i have seen on UA-cam.
Well as much as you try to deny it but of course your job and salary and education are tied to your character, which is why you find a lot of similarities between people who share one of them. For example, you tend to find people at harder universities more disciplined
says someone who didn't get into one of them...
@@passingforcoffee249 discipline has almost nothing to do with character... you can be "disciplined" and be a terrible person who only cares about themself and what they have to gain. There are so many rich people who view lower class citizens the same as animals. That's not exactly a positive character trait.
@@moca545 do you own the school? It's literally just a building. When it gets EVENTUALLY bulldozed, you'll just be bragging about a plot of land that once had a building on it. You need more love in your life. What school you went to doesn't mean much. It's the job you actually get that matters in the world.
Saul is from my graduation class!!! We are all so proud of him.
Steph Anie aw yay!
Yay Saul!
I went to smc but transfer to lacc. I’m at my last year there this year before I transfer to a uni.
what books has he published?? ijj want to buy them
Yajaira Barron yes plzz i need to know!!
When the old man said “but you’re the one who got into Yale, it came from here, from you. Yale didn’t put that into you.”
That was an amazing statment~
It just PROVES that EXPERIENCE and PERSPECTIVE are two different things, but yeah so true.
*snaps fingers*
The young man may walk faster, but the old man knows the way.
Janna Aguinaldo yea what he said touched me
Saul was in one of my classes at CC and let me tell you, he's so wise and has a sense of humor! Made the class so much more fun
Just curious, what was he studying? And was he studying just for the fun and the want to learn or actually to try and find a job?
I loved having guys like that in my classes at El Camino. It's good to have older role models at college that aren't professors. I still am friends 20 years later with some of the "older" students but now I'm 40 they are more my peers.
Bridget Sonobe wow that’s so cool that you found this video haha makes me think what a small world this is
Yeah I was there too!!! I remember sitting in the back of the class. So much fun!
so relatable. i have an english lit class with this middle aged man with a colorful background. he makes our philosophical topics fun and insightful
I have an Ivy League degree, but later took some classes at my local community collage. The community college professors were top notch and the college played an active role in providing study groups, something more prestigious universities don’t do. The selling point of an Ivy League school is the prestige of having gotten accepted, not the quality of the education. The professors are rewarded for publishing, not for there skill as teachers.
I'm currently attending community college, I never felt like I was getting a substandard education or something... of course, I live in a major city and some of my professors would also lecture at nearby universities, so my experience may be different than someone in a rural part of the US. The only reason why there is still a stigma where I live just has to do with class. 🤷♀️
Yeah well that Ivy League degree didn’t help with spelling did it?
Just kidding I hate when people correct spelling. I most likely made a mistake typing this anyway.
I wondered. Thank you for commenting this!
yeah i think the ivy appeal is more the connections and opportunities you get out of it but that's very career-dependent
Imagine going to multiple colleges (never mind why you would go to an ivy and be successful, then randomly go to a CC) and never figuring out that the point was not to have the information dropped into your mouth like you're a baby bird.
I'm not even like 3 minutes in but I gotta say Saul deserves the WORLD.
YES
No one DESERVES the world. The world deserves good people.
ZA waurdo
I literally stopped the video at 4:16 to read the comments, hoping to read something like this.
I didn’t even see what you posted but I gotta say you deserve the WORLD
“Yale didn’t put that into you.” I think this is so important. Go Saul!!!
My heart instantly melted when Saul said “I’m Saul and I graduated recently from Santa Monica Community College”
Andy Sul What are some of the pieces that he has written I would like to read some
@Andy Sul Andy Sul? You were never in Creative Writing... Quit lying
Same bless him!
Wait why lol
Emma Carstairs cuz he’s inspirational asf look how old he is and still going for his education 🥺
The girls that felt bad or embarrassed for going to a community college should absolutely be proud of themselves for their efforts. Your worth starts with your self - and they are doing something very worthy.
Think Aidan was a guy
Totally agree
@@leguminous7564irrelevant his point still stands
@@nivekmendez6376 I never said it didn't, and my comment is directly relevant to the video.
@@leguminous7564 She's a girl. lmao
“It’s not where you attend but what you do with it.” I go to a university that’s in the top 3% in the country, my family and I live in a big, beautiful House in a wealthy suburban neighborhood. How can we afford this you ask? Because of the nursing degree that my mother got at a community college.
I really do feel that one. I may not attend a big fancy school and I know the way people look at me when I say I go to community college but when I look around me seeing so many of my classmates struggling just to afford life and school, I can’t help but feel so lucky and grateful that I had parents that worked their asses off to make sure I wouldn’t HAVE to worry about that.
I respect this comment so much
aids It is most definitely a shot in the dark. I really don’t understand why people tend to bring race into everything. I also don’t understand why they assume that someone with certain features can’t have two black parents. My BLACK mom succeeded because she put the work in. Your ignorance is showing 🤷🏽♂️
Timothy Richard-Jackson 👏🏼👏🏼 absolutely right!
@@TimothyRichard12345 I'm getting my nursing degree at a community College right now. Paying for it with my GI Bill after 12 yrs of service. No shame here and good on you for respecting your mom for putting in the work. Respect👍🏻
I'll just say it ... No one is lucky 17 times in a row, that girl has something special that apparently every university admission center saw. And there's nothing wrong with it, it's wonderful for her.
Absolutely, she Must've worked extremely hard and she deserves all the success she gets. I'm sure she had no time to really have a fun time though.
I was just about to say five times maybe? But 17 holy cow!
@@ZarriawithaJ Yes ... 4 or 5 of 17, it can be. And I don't know if she was just trying to be nice to everyone, but that way of establishing that everything was luck and nothing special about her... Hopefully it was really that kindness of not wanting to sound bad, because she really deserves to be proud of it.
@@anthonyt425 maybe she has fun while she is studying.
@@eri6984 I think she mentioned that she liked Yale since they support the artists in there, she is an artist, and generally artists have fun doing their art.
Apart from that it is a myth that to be excellent at something you must give up "fun", with a balanced life it is possible to develop intellectually or artistically.
“Schools don’t define us, what matters is what we accomplish in life” Saul is a wise man
getting into Yale is an accomplishment though
That's so so so so absolutely true and an astute statement coming from old man Saul 👍👍😎
@@tima8725 That was his point though. That's what his point to Cory was. Yale didn't do any of that, he did. He's the one who got himself into Yale.
Heckkkkkkk yesss. I feel like most people in IVY feel it defines them because they get a lot of attention when they surrounded by other people
Yes! It doesn't matter where you start, it matters where you end up
Saul is so wise and well spoken. I love the line “it came from within you, Yale didn’t put that there.” He really wants to make sure they all knew that you are you because of you and not because of a building. I want to go read his books now
ok cassandra needs to drop a video with her stats, essay & extracurriculars because luck wasnt the only factor
It was pretty easy to spot that she is the most thoughtful/insightful person there for her age, she considers both sides of the equation, which signifies intelligence. Easy to see why she was accepted everywhere. I think she was being humble.
Kareem Almond How did you manage to elute that from what they said?
Asad Zulfiqar I don’t think she’s saying that Cassandra got accepted bc she’s only intelligent, I think she wants to know the other contributing factors outside of her academics bc you need more than academics to make it into any college anymore
@@asadzulfiqar7911 I respectfully disagree. I think Emily was also very insightful and thoughtful and between the two of them, I wouldn't say that either is "more" thoughtful/insightful per say than the other.
@@norelyly1196 I do not disagree with you. I am just stating that it is evident that Cassandra is capable of being accepted to those institutions. There are a couple traits, like low self-esteem that hold back Emily, but I do think she is very capable and given more conducive personal circumstances, she could be just as successful as Cassandra.
That old man is 85? That’s crazy, I thought he was like 65
Yeah right, same I thought he or I flipped the numbers at first lol
I thought so too at first but he's definitely not bad looking for his age.
Daaammnn seriously didn't expect that
Kayla O. He looks incredible for 85! I’m sure his constant drive to progress in life regardless of his age is helpful in keeping his mind and body young!
Totally, he looks impeccable
SAUL IS 85????? MANS LOOKING 60/70 GOOD FOR YOU
His voice is still very strong as well
Fax hes got enough hair to pass for 60s
I was shocked by that too 🤔 he looks great
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
native don't crack
some of the things cory says do raise red flags but y’all gotta cut him some slack- y’all are literally hating on him for being proud of making it to yale. he’s said that yale was his goal all his life and as a first gen asian american kid his parents hv put expectations and emphasis on education so he probably feels extremely satisfied with himself knowing he’s made his parents and himself proud. the only thing i’m worried about is after he graduates yale he might just lose his way and be a little confused on what he does after that since he alr made it to yale, his goal
It's the privelege of having parents who push you for me. ❤
agree
No I think it’s because he said “I am competing with the best people”
@@natashakobelsky6899 just a lil slip of words , he's competing with the most competitive people
@@gsiya4023 that's not a slip
I really appreciate how they included Saul because there are actually a lot of older people in college/university and he was able to add in an interesting perspective. (even though he currently isn't in CC)
I had a 99 year old ww2 vet in one of my psychology classes a couple years ago. He would always interrupt the class to tell 5 minute stories about the good old days that had nothing at all to do with what we were talking about, but the professor always felt too bad to cut him off lol. Really interesting guy though.
My dad has decided to get a post-graduate (?) Diploma at 50, I could never be prouder!!
@@zinho9169 omg that's so sweet! I would listen as well cause old people can have the best stories! A time with no social media...
Man I have a lot of respect for older people going back to school to improve themselves or to learn something new. I can't imagine looking that good and still being motivated to do new things at 85.
yeah im not even motivated rn so prope to them
Charlzz95 g same
I was friends in high school with a girl who started at our local community college and now works for Boeing on the international space station and just got recognized as one of the women of the space program. You don’t need to go to an Ivy League school to do great things!
Marisa Gabay agree. However Ivy League makes it easier to achieve those lofty goals since it’s open a lot of the doors. Again not saying it’s impossible and your friend is quite the impressive person to make it.
True. Going to an Ivy League may be an important step in your career, but having the right attitude and perspective and willing to work hard toward your dreams matters more.
It just kinda gives u a “free” pass when ur applying for jobs n stuff other than that it’s honestly how u use ur time and head
U can just go to a regular college as well
What is the real difference between Ivy League and community? Is it just one being more expensive?
I’m a community college student, and I can tell you no matter what college you go to life is not easy. That last question really hit me, and yes, you DO need to know someone to get somewhere you want to be. I’ve had different job interviews that wouldn’t give me a chance. The two jobs I did get, one seasonal and the one I’m working now, let me work for them because I knew someone in the company. Same at my college, my mom knows someone in the school counseling office and I was able to get the help I needed. And no matter what school you go too, you are NEVER guaranteed a job after school
4:53 "It came in here from you, Yale didn't put that into you"
I teared up when he said that. Wise words.
@@beldinlov13 facts, he just showed that it was his choices who made it who he was and that it wasn't a prestigious college. Couldn't had said it any better.
Too bad it won't reach his heart...Title is everything for him.. or so it seems
Kids from ivy league school are pretty cookie cutter💤
Well while i loved that comment from saul you have to understand that college can change you, like a lot. Its a whole new independent experience. While it was him who got into yale, yale helped him to refine himself and hes just proud of where he is now
It's insane that Saul is 85 years old; he looks about 20 years younger than that
I was going to say the same thing. Not only that, but mentally he seems to be doing really well. All the 85-year-olds I know, which I suppose isn't many..they have all slowed down significantly. If you had asked me how old Saul was I would have said late 50s, early 60s.
Drew Castronovo he goes to community college at 85 years old?
I think cause he's happy
good for him getting an education
Fr
I went to an Ivy League, my husband went to a Community College. In so many aspects, he is smarter than me. I love being able to say I worked my ass off and got into my school, but it never diminishes his road to get his degree. I am incredibly proud of him for getting his bachelors. In the end, that’s all that matters.
Gretelpop what are your degrees in if I may ask?
i mean yeah it nobody should assume it is any different.
@@ruthlopez7580 I am also curious about this question lol
@@ruthlopez7580 she went to an ivy for communications, he went to a state school for engineering 😷
Seriously, I respect anyone who graduated with an engineering degree from any school. I tried that isht.... it’s not easy.
I had the grades to go to a 4 year university but decided to start at community college because it was cheaper, closer to home, and classes were much smaller therefore giving me more confidence to ask questions when needed. Fast forward and I'm currently awaiting my application status to my dream university. Community college is honestly underrated
yes I think so too!! if you do a transfer degree there's no time wasted, and you'll spend your first 2 years in a more affordable and comfortable environment. I never got the hype around prestigious universities.
@@cyverbun I love community college I'm not ashamed either
I want to see ivy league professors vs community college professors that would be cool :)
Leslie H underrated comment
YES
Yes!!! I hope they do this!!
Yessssssss
YES, ME TOO!
Emily is working three jobs, plays soccer AND goes to Princeton... mad respect... mad respect
Shirley Tatha that’s is definitely respectful but on campus jobs don’t offer many hours to students. My state doesn’t allow its university students to work over 25 hours a week due to not wanting to give benefits but I’m not sure if the Ivy League system is different.
Ivy League schools have grade inflation and easier characters
SHE IS LIVING MY DREAM LIFE @ AGE 16 -BIG pP FOR pRINCETON...IMPOSSIBLE TO GET INTO -I AM MORE THAN WORTHY OF ucla# OLIVIA JADE -OHH THANK YOU FOR COVERING THESE NEFARIOUS DEALSNAME AND SHAME OLIVIA JADE SCANDAL HAPPENED AFTER ....NAME AND SHAME OLIVIA JADE!!
If she got in for soccer, does that mean that she wouldn't have gotten in based on her smarts? If the school is only for the brightest, does she struggle academically? (I assume she's fine, she sounds articulate. But it just goes to show that the Ivies are only for the smart people.)
@@Sbeth85 It's not just about your grades and intellect for Ivy schools anymore. There are millions of people with As in their AP classes that don't get into these schools because Ivy wants a person who does sports, has good grades, plays an instrument and has done a decent amount of volunteering and charity work. The standards are insane from what I've heard.
Why is no one talking about how sweet Emily seemed? Like pretty grounded for being a Princeton kid.
And she’s working three jobs, on the soccer team, and going to class?! Dang.
ikr!
Life is hard for the working class 😓
Plastic Tree for sure :/ gonna be me in college hehe
Football*
I'd bet she wouldn't have to work 3 jobs if she didn't go to Princeton, but that's non of my business
As someone who went to community college and then transferred to a private 4 year, it’s not the school that makes you, it’s your brain capacity. I could tell anyone I went to any Ivy League and they would believe me. There is only a stigma associated with CC’s if you internalize it. The education you get is what you make of it no matter where you go.
did you credits transfer? I was thinking about doing that but Im scared they might not transfer.
@@pitapiitaa my credits all transferred because I chose classes that my 4 year would accept. Most CC’s have transfer pathways set up to 4 year colleges so they make it easy for you to make the transition.
Saul is def. the person in the group I'd listen to. He's right, your accomplishments are what you die with. A degree, or identity is worthless without action
So true. But i feel like the group (not everyone) but most of them tried to undermine what he was saying. But their loss I guess !
I like his mentality. Definitely the same with what my mother and some of my teachers always taught me.
Making it into an Ivy League university isn’t an accomplishment?
Yea the comp eng and comp sci kids from Ivies and prestigious universities are the ones who are gods and create the innovations
@@timtimber5271 Yes, but what was the point of going if you're not going to take action afterward?
I love when Saul said community college is undervalued. He is so right!! You can get amazing education at a community college.
I need to to read his books haha
I agree! I started at a community college, then I moved on to Sarah Lawrence College. I've had some of my best instructors from community college. That's not to say SLC doesn't have great professors, but my community college did have stellar teachers.
I got some of my best basics required to do what I am doing now at a CC. Several years later, I’m on my way to med school. I actually started this path after 30. I remember alot of my “friends” who went to ivy league schools used to openly and passively put me down for being not smart. None of them have the academic level that I have currently.
It is as Saul says: It is what you do with your life. I went to school to do what I am passionate about, not for the title. Nobody gives a flying crap by the time you are in your mid 30s and everyone is worrying about their bills, family, and important things like your parents getting older and sicker.
Tim Sohn congrats!
@@SleepyboiwonderI went to a community college with great teachers and classes
The Princeton actually has the best mindset in this. She saw through Trinity’s insecurity and actually uplifted Trinity. The Princeton girl worked hard for what she has.
She is flowing in example of Christ. Discerning and using wisdom
Nah, I feel like it was the old man. He had the most wisdom and knew the way.
The Yale kids came off as really pretentious. I got my masters at Cal State LA and tuition there is low cost and many of the professors there are super also awarded for their contributions to academia. One of the department chairs is even a co-founder of the LA Black Lives Matter chapter.
I think that Yale girl is humble enough. She did admit it’s mostly about luck. But that Asian dude who went to Yale is pretentious like some of you said. (I know some of you may say I am only green eyed. For what is worth, I went to one of the Ivy leagues too...)
@@charlesmichael2806 I agree, Cassandra and Emily were honestly quite humble and Cory wasn’t being great, I think he probably has some like male privelage thing
The college education system in America is unfair because your mistakes follow you like a criminal record. I get academic dishonesty or plagiarism, but not getting a bad grade in a class. It makes going back to school extremely difficult, expensive, and can automatically disqualify you from so many opportunities just because of mistakes you made when you were a teenager.
To be fair, plagiarism is like THE thing you aren't supposed to do in academia. It's basically fraud. You are attempting to gain an edge over other people who you are competing against in school, and by extension the job market, by blatantly lying about your capabilities through theft of another person's work. That's the cardinal sin. That's the one thing that everybody tells you not to do a million times before you ever get your first college assignment and a million more times afterward.
Absolutely. I find it quite ridiculous that these decisions are made when we’re literal children, and yet, they carry on to negatively affect our lives
@@queenv22 Teachers who literally plagirize there assignments, ideas, materials, tests, quizzes etc fromhead to toe👁👁👄👁
You have so many options though. You can drop the class, make it pass/fail, retake it to show you improved. And some college students are teens sure, but they’re also adults, maybe 5 years from getting a full time job. Jobs won’t hold your hand through big time mistakes.
@@leguminous7564 I think they’re also talking about hs classes, cause those follow you for years. Colleges and Universities will look at you hs grades and they can choose not to except you if you failed a class. With hs you can’t just drop the course and retake it another year either. You can obviously retake the course but you’ll still have the previous grade on you transcript. But I do agree that’s jobs won’t hold your hands through mistakes but a lot of times they will give multiple chances. Where as colleges and universities can be way more “picky” in a sense.
Saul is 85 year old and he goes to college and he looks very good for his age! 👍🏽
Saud Asiri He’s so coool !!!
i thought he was at least 60 years!
Saud Asiri damn what's my excuse ?
Yes!! I thought he was like 65
Daaamn right he looks good
anyone else agree that Saul is really respectful and must be protected?😂
He's a great guy, would definitely like to drink with him.
WE👏🏾STAN👏🏾SAUL👏🏾IN👏🏾THIS👏🏾HOUSEHOLD👏🏾
Agree but he can protect himself 😁
he’s the stan lee of community college
He’s our senpai
Sometimes what u want to do in life doesn’t require university
This is top notch advice!
Yeah shout out to the firefighters, construction workers, estheticians, electricians, carpenters, and artists. Most importantly shout out to the under-paid lifesavers: lifeguards, and emts/paramedics. Shout out to those who continue to work in jobs that are being automated bc our consumer-capitalist society did you dirty.
True but there’s no harm in an increased paycheck.
Clarence Davis III that increased paycheck isn’t necessarily a sure thing
Romeo Barnes actually if two employees have the same standard level of education and workplace performance the worker with a College degree will get the raise/promotion. Assuming workplace discrimination isn’t a factor.
when the CC students talked about how embarrassed they are about their school, the fact that the ivy league students tried comforting them into changing their mindset rather than acknowledging/criticizing that they had to be embarrassed in the first place proves a point for me. don’t get me wrong it was a great discussion and the ivy league students were beyond nice and compassionate it’s just really difficult to say that these two have the same playing field in their lives
this comment! the ivy students felt the need to assure them as if their assurance was necessary validation for the cc students to feel okay about their decision to attend cc. the ivy students were compassionate but condescending and not very understanding of the cc students situations.
this exactly
@@renoseiji The ivy league students weren't being condescending. I feel like you didn't listen to the entirety of what they said, but only the part where that one girl said "you're really well spoken" etc. But, she was saying that in order to follow up with her actual point - she was using the community college student's positive attributes to show that the stigma is incorrect. She basically said, "you're really smart, and that's why you and community college students who value their time at their schools shouldnt listen to the stigma". This does not sound like an assurance at all to me. I only have an issue with the point about a stigma against ivy league students, because it is not as significant and really doesn't do as much damage to people as a stigma against community college students does.
@@renoseiji stop projecting
Because they’re on camera, if they did care they wouldn’t have gone to an Ivy League
So much respect for Emily. Working three jobs, and getting in to an ivy league school through soccer. I could barely balance working 20 hours a week while in community college!
5:05 “Yale didn’t put that into you, it came from you” so deep so true.
hi david
David Delgado wait I don’t hear that at 5:05
Hannah Dailey our savior
@Hannah Dailey thank u 😁
I’m 14 and this is deep
I’m in medical school and I really believe more people should go to CC. Nobody asks their doctor where their first 2 years of undergrad were done, but having less debt is everything...
The only issue is that it’s often difficult to find the same resources at CC that’s available at a larger university, ie advisors, mentors, research faculty, and leadership that round out competitive medical school applications. It’s also hard to say it but name value still does carry pretty significant weight for admission committees at all levels of graduate/postgraduate training.
When I was applying for residency, one interviewer actually told me to rank my programs based on reputation because it is very difficult to move to a higher tier program for fellowship and very likely to move to a lower tier one. I ended up not doing that because there are more important things to life than name value.
Very true! I regret not going to community college for pre-requisites. My friends will have less debt compared to me when we graduate with a doctorate
M Wood yes it just depends what field you go in and what you want to do. My cc school has one of the best nursing programs in SoCal
Ayla yes, I don’t think you can get into Yale medical school with CC chemistry. But programs are SO competitive these days, most pre meds are just happy to get in anywhere. I’ve also never asked my doctor if they went to a prestigious medical school because I think residency location is more telling.....
@@meaghanwood1844 Facts!
I’ve never experienced shame with community college. It was such a great stepping stone and so affordable. One semester at the university I transferred to after my AA was more than my total associates. I’m proud of the choice I made because it allowed me to make better financial decisions. I loved community college and if you’re not sure what you want to yet, it’s a great way to have time to decided by taking affordable courses that can transfer to something else.
I love Saul's attitude, what a beautiful soul! He seems like a very great man.
The guy is 85. But looks energetic and as young as a 60 year old. Experience and gained wisdom will do that to a person.
Michael W Thats what happens when you’re genuine, unproblematic, and not racist.
NightBlazeX I’m not too sure what that has to do with this but I agree
Gordon Brand People age gracefully when they’re neither of those things.
My wife went to private uni and I went to community college/state school. She left with a $60k debt and I walked out with $0. I’m 35yrs old and working as a programmer with $100k+/salary. Who cares where you go. Faq it. You will be successful because you will use your brain to get there. Work hard and think forward.
@premium obamium WRONG. Finance, managers?? Last I checked, these aren’t stem fields
Thanks you just gave me some hope of going to community college
@@4kHDRWAFFLE you smokin
You went to a community college/state school? Which is it?
This is so inspiring tf
They should make an odd man out video with 6 Ivy League students versus 1 community college student
Yes
that would be too easy
yazzzzzz
Yessssssssss
Omfg yo best idea I've seen on here. Jubilee please do this
They should do an episode how far these people are in life after 5, 10, 20 years
Very insightful idea
Saul may have to be there in spirit
@@isaac_6530 LMAO foul
@@isaac_6530 "He's a bit confused, but he's got the spirit"
Ohhh I really like this idea. It would be cool to see this on a lot of their debate/middle ground episodes as reunion to see where they stand in 5/10/15 years down the road and if life experience moves them
I love the fact that they included someone who was recruited to an Ivy League for sports instead of grades
Their grades can't be bad either.
You don't get into an ivy league college for grades, that's only a small part of it. You have to be amazing at the passions you pursue and the things that you do, that's what admission officers are looking for. And obviously she was amazing at sports and yes good grades are a sizable part of whether or not you get accepted. obviously somebody that got a 700 on their SAT a 10 on their ACT and a 2.0 GPA probably won't get accepted, but what I'm saying is that you won't get accepted for perfect grades alone.
Olivia Woloshyn but it’s on campus jobs I highly doubt the school would overworked in jobs alone
Olivia Woloshyn I’m talking about about school jobs I’m saying I don’t think the school would let them have that many jobs and leave no time for school work so I’m saying someone like a mom 3 jobs is different then her school 3 jobs
Olivia Woloshyn and I could be completely wrong but that’s just my thoughts
"I did get into all 8 ivy league schools."
Damn, I can hardly do my homework on time.
Cherryblossom hello ExoL. Nice to see u here
Chanyeolll
*17
Romeo A. theres only 8 ivy leagues, the other 9 schools of the 17 were just universitys
ttrashytracy ontiktokpleasewatchmytiktoks ya they were probably prestigious though
is no one gonna talk about how that girl got into all 8 ivy leagues
Preston Pener what an intelligent person who also came across pretty sweet too.
omg ikr! she seems to be a very humble and sweet person, i hope everything goes well for her in the future💗
Im glad she did. She seems nice, and very deserving of that.
That's insane. You could have an amazing application and basically be a champion at everything you do in life but even that may not be enough; there is still luck involved into the process.
IKR
I love SAULLLLLLLLL!!!! There’s real WISDOM from all that experience. It’s super sad that anyone finds their identity by their college and feels a sense of superiority, plus all these Ivy’s seem to be getting a free ride. YAY for the community college students who will have less debt!
Saul is so precious 🥺 He’s well-spoken and he’s like the grandpa everyone needs.
Ramie Yamaguchi dirty grandpa🥵
Rocket Blogs uuuhhhmm- ermmm chile
Ramie Yamaguchi irk
Saul is 85? hes looking great, I thought he was like 60
Tom Williams96 same I think he was around 55/60 too😂
HE'S HOW OLD NOW? 😂
I thought he was 27 lol
@@provoked_zyrox3831 i mean he could probably get away for being 13
That's an accomplishment in it self 💪
I heard Yale in this video more times than I have in my entire life
Or Princeton.
@Cracked on the Wii I like how your pfp suits your comment
Me too. And I’m from new haven. I live 5 minutes from campus. My brother goes to yale. Yet Cory, Cory said yale more than anyone I’ve ever met here.
frr
I think the last time I heard Yale this much was in Gossip Girl
community college student here! I went to a state university for a year and did HORRIBLY (I had personal things going on and it was the 2020-2021 school year, so needless to say things were challenging). I took a year off before deciding to go back to school. my governor offered free community college to all state residents who graduate/graduated high school in 2020-2023, so it seemed like a no-brainer. I didn't end up qualifying for that scholarship because I got too much aid money (as in full-ride, plus almost $1000 surplus) (and I'm not complaining, I'm so grateful because I could not have afforded to go otherwise). I have to say that I have found so many resources and forms of support within my school that I never saw when I went to a university. I have also found that the only stigma I've faced when sharing that I go to a community college comes from myself. I used to be so embarrassed that I wasn't going to a "real" school. but you know what? my degree will be just as "real" as one a person who went to an ivy league will earn. I'm proud to go to a community college, and I'll gladly tell anybody who asks.
Loved reading this❤ Thank you for sharing
what 2 yr u going 4?
I'm a senior HS while doing cert on Health Support Services in tradeschool and will graduate this year. Tight on money to pay for tuition and was thinking of going to community college because apparently, the tuition from university made me gulp and think of my life choices.
why are we not talking about how that girl just said she got into all the ivy’s
Because Ivy League Schools don’t matter in the long run in life
Arran Vid it may not matter to some people, but her acceptances really shows her hardworking ability (especially with asians being less likely to be accepted into colleges). no one gets into an ivy league cause they’re “just smart” and she definitely worked her butt off.
@@aspiknf I mean it kinda of does matter. It makes a huge difference if your applying for a job and have entered an Ivy League or a community college.
No one applies to 17 schools because they actually want to go to all of them. I feel like she applied just to see if she could get in and now she has something cool to brag about.
sara kroczyk Exactly 👍. But then again I've seen some vids about people applying to quite a few places. But it would be for the same reason, to brag...
I want to see a video about ivy league graduates vs community college graduates and the difference between the treatment from their jobs, debt and stuff
Most people don't "graduate" from CC, unless it's a 2 year degree. Their diploma will be from whatever 4-year institution they graduated from. I'm just being pedantic thought.
But honestly, I don't think they'll be treated any differently. I just think that Ivy League kids will get hired from whatever business/company has good connections with the school. I do think that Ivy League students will have to deal with more debt though, but a lot of Ivy Leagues do have programs to pay for student's tuitions if their family makes less than "x" amount per year.
Edit: I would like to add that Lone Star, the big Community College system throughout Texas, is only a 2 year college. Idk about other schools, but I've only heard about CC being 2 years
Or maybe people who didn’t attend college at all
Community College grad here. I transferred to a university after two years and went on to grad school. I work in a consulting firm and I'm not treated or paid differently than my coworkers who didn't attend community college :)
I think it matters mainly upon when you're trying to get your first job in your particular field. Otherwise, you have your job experience and abilities to fall back on.
Speaking personally on behalf of the debt side of things: if you grew up poor like I did you sort of get amazing funding for Community College (at least where I live in Utah), and all my tuition and then some is paid outright with Pell Grants and other state ran programs I am in. Now if my tuition was doubled, which it could be if I ever transferred out to say, the U of U, than the Pell would not cover everything, but the Pell and my additional state provided 4K would. Overall, if you put in the effort to apply for various state and federal funding, the generally low cost of Community College can save a bunch of money for what would be essentially a very very comparable education to "Better" colleges.
I don't think Trinity realises how awesome she is. She's well spoken, intelligent, I loved her answers. She also made the sacrifice of getting a free/cheap education to give her siblings more opportunities.
Alexa F. I went to high school with her. She is exactly like this too and I love it
Ansleigh Mendoza that’s so dope! She seems neat!
She looks jealous of all the ivy league students
@@anonanon36 I low-key feel where she's coming from because as a person that does go to CC I've been ridiculed by my ex fellow classmates countless times and it hurts
@@ansm2467 hook ya boy up 👌
After I graduated high school I was super psyched to go to the school of my dreams but then I lost all my financial aid to finance my way so I decided to go to community college. I can honestly say that, though I was soul crushed, I am so glad I decided not to bury myself in debt from my undergrad years! It was the best choice I could’ve made. I’ve met quite a few amazing professors at community college who are passionate about their areas of expertise and it was truly a treasure. I transferred to USC and received a full ride! It’s a complete different experience but nevertheless I am enjoying my time here regardless. You can get anywhere you set your mind too as long as you put in the effort and have amazing support systems!
I’m so proud of you! Do you have any tips on getting a full ride scholarship, I’m going the same route
@@luckyduck_. Well for USC in particular, I recommend that if you come from a low income household you should apply for FAFSA and submit your CSS Profile for USC. They give you A LOT of financial aid if you qualify under FAFSA. I’m not sure exactly what the conditions are but I’d recommend speaking with a CPA or someone who knows the inner workings of these things to see your options otherwise. If you do happen to go down the FAFSA + CSS profile route USC will ask you for a lot of documents regarding your income (or your parent’s income if they claim you as a dependent), expenses, relationships, etc. it can get tedious but I promise you the end goal is so so so worth it. I got a total of about 75k in financial aid per year. I even lost some at the last minute as well, but that didn’t matter because USC gave me 10k extra to make up for the aid I lost.
I can’t speak for all schools but speaking from experience, private institutions have huge endowments which means more financial aid especially for low income families. For instance, while weighing my options of whether to go to UCLA or USC I went to USC because they gave me more money. However, every school operates differently, and the documents they request will be slightly different so I highly suggest doing more research if you are looking into a different school other than USC.
Most of how I got a full ride was because I was claimed as a dependent from a low income household so I’m not sure what advice I could give if you aren’t in the same financial position as me. Regardless, I really wish you well, and hope you get into the school of your dreams!
"Cory and Saul" would make a great sitcom...the nerdy Ivy Grad who inherited his parents' big mansion but is left with the wise old handyman who gets him out of his shell with weekly adventures. Netflix, let's chat.
yes please
or the handyman that Cory is mean to and pushes away
Can I get a script while your at it? Asking for a freind 😅👀
El Jimmy omg I thought you were Netflix I just saw the red and black pfp and was like 😦
😂
Koreaboop your good ma 😂
I went to community college, transferred to a four-year university, and currently attend law school at an Ivy League university. When I compare my community college professors to my Ivy League professors, there is no difference. I can honestly say the level of education I have received has been the same at all three of these institutions. It really is a shame that there is such a stigma around going to community college.
Law is law, marketing is marketing whether you go to ivy league or community college. The thing is ivy league has a massive network and easier to reach opportunities.
I concur. It doesn’t matter if your professor is famous or one of the most influential academics in his circle if he doesn’t care for teaching or his students. I’ve had professors who are obviously at the brand name university for their research grants. They’re brilliant alright, but they don’t like their students and I don’t learn very much from them.
I think just being accepted by a prestigious school “proves” you are hardworking, talented, smart, etc. to the general public even if the education is the same. It’s only because it’s competitive that it’s deemed more worthy, much like a supply and demand idea.
You are just paying the “name” of the school as well as word “prestigious” that comes after it when you attend Ivy League school but in reality there’s no difference.
A personal anecdote from 2 colleges out of the 100s in the US is a pretty substantial claim. If we look at this factually, funding and resource wise, this is incorrect. As well as certain quality of life things. I can still say I slightly agree with you through only because I believe education during your Brian development ages which is below 18, are definitely the most important. That’s where you get your work ethic, that’s where education varies greatly, and that’s where you are the most influenced by your environment. And at the same time you also retain information better then any other age.
my jaw dropped when Cassandra said she got accepted into all 8 Ivy League schools
Lucy Link shes pretty and extremely smart
She’s thriving😅😅
I'm confused because there are 12.
@@jordanleighwheatley There are only 8 Ivies. But there are other schools that people see as equivalent like Stanford, Duke, and MIT. The Ivy League is just an athletic conference
@@loveu4life100 I found some other lists online. One was 12, one was 10, one was 8. So I'm confused
I think it would be cool to have people well out of college talk about how much college affected their career paths(community vs Ivy).
ok no ones gonna mention the fact that he's 85? he looks way younger
He looks 60
65 id say
When I saw him i thought he was 60 but when he said he was 85 my jaw dropped
I was thinking around 55!!
Elaina Haney maybe not 55 😂😂
*me, a european, whose university system is completely different from the US' and no idea wtf an ivy league is*
"Ooh, i gotta watch this."
The difference is price
In seriously trying to understand this system, where getting higher education means not to be intelligent but to have money or be good in sports xD
@@katerinafolvarcna1698 Schools are businesses. They try to select individuals who they think could go on to make a ton money (like think mark zuckerberg kinds of money) that they then could donate to the school, or who could then serve as networking nodes for future students.
Conchita G mainly, but ivy league are also the highest ranked schools on the east coast for a reason
Hahahaha same!
I’m so proud of Saul for graduating at his age. It’s never too late to do something you’re passionate about whether it’s graduating with a degree or whatever else sparks your interest.
@Aubrey No, maybe he didn’t have an opportunity before. The strive to learn and educate yourself is something that should always be appreciated regardless of age.
@Aubrey Some people just don’t have that opportunity to go to college when they’re 17 or 18. Some people were just raised and influenced wrongly, some people can’t afford it, and some people have to stay behind and take care of loved ones. Don’t be insensitive and try to push year ideals onto others.
@Aubrey stfu
Same here. He's aged well, too. When I saw him I thought early 60s, not 85.
@@andrewgalbraith1858 goals lol
During my National Honor Society ceremony, my high school randomly announced only one student's college decision and that was the one student who got into Harvard in my school. They didn't bother to announce the fact that so many other students there were doing something with their lives after high school whether that be college or work or something else. Everyone stood up and clapped for him and I felt invisible. I had the same GPA as this kid, more extracurricular commitments, and more involvement in the school community (and I know plenty of kids in the national honor society who also did a lot more during their time in high school) but none of us got celebrated. I'm going to the city college of New York and for some reason despite how amazing the morals of the school are (with having been the first free college attended by immigrants and poor minorities in NYC with the only main focus of the admissions process being on the merit of these students), ivy league students still get the spotlight over everyone else.
I was also in National Honor Society, one student got called out for going to Berkley (everyone else neglected). I was ranked in the middle of my class and nobody ever heard of my university. 1 Associate's Degree, 2 Bachelor Degrees, and almost a Master's Degree later, I forgot who that kid was. I've always embraced the sleeper status and I encourage others to do the same as well. Underdogs always prevail. I'm rooting for you!
OMG next time do Private School vs Public School!!!
Yes!!!
Yes yes yes!!
Yesss
public schoolers would rage on the private schoolers lmao , no one at private school hates public school kids but all public school kids hate private school kids
HeyItsAbby private schools were the exact same for me except you’d get stress and cry in 4th grade
It’s very easy for an Ivy League student to tell someone attending cc to not care about what others think and just be happy
bts paved the way omg army hello
just like rich people tell poor people that money doesn't buy happiness
I think it’s true though, it’s not easy but like you wouldn’t care what people thought if you knew how little thought they gave to something, like at the end of the day you have to go to school and deal with it so why not be proud, be proud that you’re at school to get a higher education, most don’t, a lot of my friends go to top schools and I’m proud of them for their accomplishments but I also love my school and am so proud of it and honored to go there.
@@70spoem because it doesn't...
sawyers were the Ivy League kids supposed to say something different so everyone can call them an asshole? Lol
I hope the Yale guy doesn't feel lost when he leaves his school. Claiming anything other than yourself is completely responsible for who you are & your entire character is not a good thing.
Roselia Thorn he wack
Claiming that you are defined entirely by yourself and not by the community you inhabit and the people around you isn't "good," it's deeply naive. I don't understand why so many commentators here live in a fantasy world where humans come into adulthood as fully formed autonomous beings, as if its shocking that spending 4 years of your life somewhere, entrenched in its culture inevitably becomes key to who you are in a pretty critical part of life.
@@danielbelkin4652 Ok however you are not a product of your environment. You have the power to either be defined by it or not. But yes of course if you grew up in rural South Carolina you will have an accent and be exposed to certain aspects of culture that are unavoidable elsewhere.
Definitely you can feel attachment to your school - but at the end of the day it's not *who you are.* Like what Saul said, you're defined by what you do, not by what school you attended. I attend a prestigious school on scholarship, but while I'm obviously proud of my school, I understand that it's just a temporary thing in my life. It's not my forever thing. I'm always going to cherish the friendships and memories, but I'm not gonna carry my education with me forever.
Every community you become a part of is going to define the things you do now and probably in the future and not only that but the person you are now and the person you will be. People build communities and communities build people and identities. Almost everything you are is a part of a social and cultural network so of course education, living in a place for a certain amount if time, is going to define you and change you. You are going to meet people and throught contact with them affirm you beliefs or adopt new ones. You are going to learn things you will use in you life, that will get you a job, through wich you will be in certain places and be a particular person. Just like with family, friends, the music you like, the things you do - everything defines you, college/uni no less, especially when you are coming of age. That's why humanitarian scienses like social and cultural anthropology are so important, they teach you that human beings are not autonomous but are in fact social beings that create culture (in a very broad sense of the word) which in turn creates human beings.
I went to a community College my first 2 years then transferred to a four year college. When I told some people that I first went to a community College, I could tell that they thought less of me for it. But I honestly enjoyed community College much more. I felt like I learned a lot more from my professors there.
I did the 2 and 2 as well and now I go to school out of state and I certainly miss the atmosphere of community college better. I don’t really have any friends at school like I did back home but I got a boyfriend out of it so in a way it worked out IG😅
I completely agree. The professors at community college have taught me more than my university has.
Is no one going to talk about Cassandra getting into 17 schools plus all the ivy league schools.
I strongly think on what Cassandra did was THE IMPOSSIBLE which to me that was an astonishing feat by her getting herself into 17 elite colleges.
What can we say she is a sad case of being whipped by a tiger mum
Im curious as to what her major is..
skorpia g most likely she’s a STEM major
The admission fees alone Jesus
Triniti and Cassandra are so damn well spoken. Emily, even though she goes to Princeton, still has to work three jobs. MAJOR RESPECT GIRL!
I was *not* expecting her to say that she works three jobs. That's what I get for assuming that everyone who goes to an Ivy League has their parents pay their tuition lol
Tbh I hope they all get not just good jobs but excellent jobs if /they attend ivy league
Diamond haha I go to Princeton and that’s a super common assumption I get when I tell people where I go to college. My parents aren’t paying anything for my education so I also work 2-3 jobs year round, definitely tough lol.
Major props to Emily. She worked and works extremely hard to be where she is. A student athlete working three jobs? She’s a boss.
Joe Morales 3 *on campus* jobs. On campus jobs aren’t as difficult. they are more flexible and give you hours so that you still have time to study.
Saul looks so young for 85! I swear he doesn’t look a day over 58!
He looks late 60s-70s to me
yeah he looks a lot better than my grandmas husband whos like, 64 i think?
Julia's World more like 65
What type of 58 year old do you know 🤣...
He looks younger than his age, but I wouldn't say he looks 60 😅 60 year old aren't that old
Agreed. I was actually surprised when they said he was 85. Thought he was in his 60s.
I'd like to see one about college drop outs vs college graduates. I went to a community college then transferred to a university and was so burned out and anxious when covid happened that I ended up not going back. I'm happy that it happened though because I was my identity was super attached to being in school (without really knowing what I was doing in life).
The Princeton girl was so humble and understanding to everyone. She’d make a great teacher ❤️
Yes!
Humble and understanding or patronizing and accommodating in an effort to not appear as an elitist.
@@Kyohan137 imo, cory better personified the latter traits you were describing. he just attempted to disguise it with his choice of words. he failed miserably and came off as pretentious and arrogant, though, from what i saw. i feel as if emily was genuinely just a kind person; she saw through trinity's insecurities and lifted trinity up to the best of her ability.
@@Kyohan137 I can't really say whether or not she's elitist. She doesn't rub me that way, but maybe. She's working 3 jobs to afford her school and she talks about her and her family and what they could afford and their options. Maybe she's elitist, but she's definitely not entitled.
might as well leave princeton then
at 16:50 when Cory says "because we are competing against the BEST people" and trinity makes that face silently omg
he meants GPA wise
@@sselemaNrM but that's not necessarily the case, someone may have really good gpa but not choose ivy league cos they can't afford it.
It's true though. Some of the brightest minds are attending Ivy League schools. So, the level of competition is high. No doubt
@@freedomofthought2940 yes but the point is that all the competition isn't exclusively from ivy league schools, and that not all people who attend ivy League schools are gonna be part of the competition.
@@freedomofthought2940 and I think probably due to the way it's worded it's very 'ivy League schools are superior to cc'
I attended my local community college before transferring to an Ivy League school. I can share that community college students are some of the most genuine and inspiring people I’ve ever met. The negative connotation associated with community colleges is very disappointing and I completely understand why some feel embarrassed to share that they go to one. People think they are better than others because of their school - this needs to change.
Same here, I feel like my relationships with my friends in CC is a lot more genuine and long-lasting than my relationships with my "friends" in the Ivy League school I attended.
I wish I'd gone to community college, or any cheaper college. Or maybe just not art school.
Question how did you do it? Im looking into it but it seems way harder than getting in as an incoming freshman is
80% of my friends in college are friends from CC that transferred with me to Uni. :D The other 15% of my Uni friends were fellow transferrees from other CCs. I love how we all share that same journey.
@Math Dude My Asian parents were kinda disappointed when they know that I was going to attend cc instead of "real universities". But it turns out that attending cc really built my character that impressed the admission officers in the Ivies that I was accepted to later on. I made a group of friends in a study group I joined and they came from literally all walks of life in terms of race, gender, age, special needs, personality, religion etc. And yet, we stick together as a group, supporting each other, growing up and developing ourselves together and we became a better version of ourselves together when we're transferring to different schools.
I love this channel, and the idea that we can still have an open conversation about anything, without being "cancelled" or thinking that's its taboo.. keep up all the great work u guys and gals do, it's amazing and it's very much appreciated!! cheers
okay but props to the girl who got into all eight ivy leagues, like that’s impressive as hell
I bet she got into RSI
Who cares it’s college.
@@Thewoj2123 8 of the most prestigious schools in the nation, yeah who cares about that
Edit: May I add that mostly accept the strongest students internationally, who are incredibly gifted in their academic passions to the point where they can win international or national competitions in the subject, or started an organization that impacted hundreds/thousands of people, or started a very successful business, yeah nothing much
Whats her @
We just did an episode where we briefly highlight an immigrant who was accepted to 3 ivy league schools: Columbia, UPenn, and Harvard. Like you said Gianna, muy impressive.
Saul is precious and must be protected at all costs.
jay travers lol
The girl with the pinkish hair sounds a little uncomfortable being a CC student... like she'd like to be "more". I wish she knew she is doing great already.
i am 32 now going to CC again.. well i am in culinary school which is in CC and i am comfortable with it and proud of it but when i was 18. i also went to CC and i was so embarrassed about it because many of my friends went to better universities and i felt like a failure. it's really strange because now that i am older. i realise it doesn't matter and by the time you 30. no one cares except for when you are applying for a job. lol
She just seemed shy to me
Shes probably had to many ppl in her life tell her or give her the sense that her community college education is less valuable and that's a shame. I hope after this experience she'll be more prideful about attending a CC
At the end of the video she joked about going to Yale and taking pictures “I’m a Yale student”. You can definitely see where she really wishes she was given a different set of cards in life.
to be fair she's studying to be a novelist, and her criteria for school choice was based on proximity, affordability and that her friends went there. Then, put her in this situation, no wonder she's defensive and not comfortable.
I'm a single mom, paying for college out of pocket, and working full time. It's hard but I'm so proud of myself for doing it. This is my fifth degree but it'll be the one that I'll be able to sustain a position in.
Stop it, save your money for your kids
@@fos1451 let her do what she wants to she's working hard for herself that's amazing
There is no way Saul is 85, he looks 65
Thats what I'm thinkingg
I respect him
Hey Sunless, you watch Jubilee, I thought you played Rocket League. I’m subscribed
Lol, I thought it was the real Sunlesskahn
I actually had a class with him at SMC, he is such an amazing man. He inspires me everyday because he never gave up!!
When the Asian girl that got into all Ivy League schools says the college admissions system is messed up, you know it is
"wElL sHe wOrkEd vEry hArd blAh bLah blAH"
RoyisDaBEST u probably are working for minimum pay lol
@@khaikhai4982 I'm asian and 13 lmao
@@royisdabest what type, also 1st or after 1st Gen
Obviously she worked really hard it’s not like she got in for doing absolutely nothing but there are some advantages to certain people
That red hair girl is so strong, her and the princeton girl are very eloquent and mature!
The red hair girl IS the Princeton girl the other two are from Yale.
KevSamaFreekicks she meant the girl with pinkish hair that went to community college
KevSamaFreekicks no the red haired girl went to community college and the blonde soccer player girl went to Princeton !!
YoshiPeach Mario holy hell don’t even start
@YoshiPeach Mario just stop ✋
What Cory said is true though. The fees are high because you're paying for the school brand and the opportunities that comes with it.