@kred792 Jimmy G's first half season with us was insane! 6-2? Remember we were 0-8 and then we traded for him and it looked like (just like Brock Purdy) he was our savoir. Well we know what happened next but I will give Jimmy G he's credit. He was a average quarterback who didn't do too much but didn't do enough neither.
Hackenberg was so bad he couldn’t even compete for a practice squad slot, the only reason he was on that roster as long as he was was because he was selected so damn high by incompetent management
Say what you want about Deshawn Watson, most of it is deserved and he's fallen completely off as a player, but a 3 time Pro Bowler and highest paid player in all of the NFL, calling him a BUST is going a touch too far. He's regressed miserably tho
He's good in the locker room and getting the starting QB ready for the game. He's awesome in practice which makes him a good backup to run the scout team. You just hope to death you never need to use him
@@billsfeverreminds me of how Tim Boyle had a job despite his god awful college stats and even worse professional stats. The very definition of intangible value
CJ Beathard was a great pic!! He was the reason why they drafted Kittle, they wanted him to throw the ball to someone he is familiar with. Davis Webb had faced some issues, people claiming that he will replace Eli Manning is the started did not help the case.
Would love to see a a video on the 2015 QB class. All backups and a couple of guys who never made it though I thought they’d be better (Bryce Petty, Brett Hundley, Connor Halliday). Also would mind the 2016 QB draft as well. Besides Goff, this one was littered with busts. Wentz, Lynch, Hackenberg, Cook, Cardale Jones, Jake Coker et al.
49ers wasted their gains on that trade, if it makes you feel any better. Cut Soloman Thomas, cut Rueben Foster, cut Dante Pettis, and missed out on Alvin Kamara
After Garrett went #1 overall, there was no reason to trade. If Mitch went #2 to SF, then Bears pickup Watson instead. Everyone is kicking themselves in the foot for overlooking Mahomes, but honestly there's no doubt in my mind most teams would have squandered him too. He landed in the exact right place.
Nah dawg it not racism even though Nathan Peterman sucks the NFL can do whatever they want they make the rules it there house so yea there system is racist and rigged and not perfect but that why we need our own league and then we can hire black QB more often @@Yay4Yay
@@Yay4Yaythe NFL was created in whites image so of course they hire more white QB's 1st they do what is best for them whites 1st not the real racism it human nature I actually am ok with whites people not liking me.
I was one that said he Patrick Mahomes was going to be a great legendary QB and so far he is. I said that as soon as he announced he was entering the nfl Draft.
Calling Watson a bust is a wild take. Man made the playoffs twice and led the league in passing. He maybe overpaid now due to his ridiculous contract but far from a bust. He was considered a top 5 QB before he left football for nearly a yearf and a half.
@Lifesabeach91 he didn't fail the team that drafted him. Lol he played very well for the Texans. Gave them everything you look for a franchise QB until the relationship went soul. Then he help give us those extra draft picks they can rebuild with an even better and cheaper QB in Stroud. That is a total win for the Texans.
@@Attack_Pillowwtf are you talking about? He took those horrible Texans to the playoffs multiple times and won the division as well. You people don’t watch / know football. He was practically forced out of the league for nearly 2 years. It’s a reason the browns signed him to a fully guaranteed contract at the number they did. SMH
did not give excuses to Deshaun Kaiser because Brian Kelly said he was not ready for the NFL and Pete Carol said the same thing about Marc Sanchez and both those players became bust and they should’ve listened to their coach
Not really. There are currently 23 QBs in the HOF and the only year that I can recall that had multiple HOFers was 1983. This doesn't even include sure things like Peyton Manning (1998), Brady (2000), Mahommes (2017) and Brees (2001) and potential entrants like Rothlisberger (2003), Rivers (2003), Stafford (2009), Rogers (2004) and Eli Manning (2003).
I went to Tech during the Mahomes and Kliff era. Davis Webb was the starter then, and in my opinion, the superior QB. Interesting to see how both of their careers turned out.
There are teams that just don’t know how to evaluate, draft and coach QBs. Chicago is a prime example. They fall in love with EVERY college QB highlight reel. Mark my words, Caleb Williams won’t survive his rookie contract with the Bears. Before that contract is over, he’ll be in another NFL team’s uniform.
You can't call a player a bust unless he was a first round and didn't do anything with his career the expectation that people put on these players, it's ridiculous. You're talking about other people, not just other people. People doing what you dream of doing you couldn't pass a ball 20 yards let alone make a d1 roster
the 2021 class could turn out to be far worst then the 2017 where you have Mahomes + Watson who when he was rolling was a top 5 QB. His play this year will define the legacy of the QB draft class if he returns to form. Love the video but to QBR or Passer Rating is a much better stats for QBs then Yds or Pass-INT ration. Keep it up.
Trubisky needed more development. sad what happened to him. If he's a good system quarterback then play to his strengths, and script the hell out of the game plan.
Those allegations against Watson were handled outside of civil court, there were never any criminal charges. That's not definitive proof the allegations were true.
everyone gets on the bears for taking tribiksi instead of mahomes but the real crime was the 49ers passing on mahomes and taking soloman after the bears gifted them mahomes
The problem with the Bears when they drafted Trubisky was, they were drafting a quarterback with the highest floor, not the highest ceiling. Trubisky did many things well, but he was not great or elite at anything. Suppose you do not have any elite skill sets as a quarterback, such as athleticism, passing ability, or ability to read defenses. In that case, you will never be better than a league-average quarterback. Trubisky was never better than a league-average starter at best.
I don't know how often you look at your comment sections, but this video is a revelation for any and all who would like to know how the main-stream media forms our opinions about people, places, and things. I call this vid, "the Fleecing of Watson". The blogger here spent hours researching this topic, and this is what he found: ua-cam.com/video/SMCsw4-X6GY/v-deo.html
You guys can't find a better way to make money then to bash kids out of college calling them bust right away its so ridiculous say something positive or like most people don't know how to
“It turned out to be true…” on Watson’s $exua1 allegations. Huh? When was he convicted? Oh, I guess you’re one of those who presumes guilt until proven innocent. I hope Watson sues Houston and gets defamation suits on all the women who lied. By the way, I never read that he “forced” anyone to do anything. At worst, he asked. I could be wrong on that last part, it’s been a while. I just hate seeing the same lame chatter against a man who was “accused”. A lot of those accusations have a funny way of disappearing under scrutiny. We all know a good number of those women just saw $$$. Sad what happened to him.
@@mjjoe76I will say though i dont agree... If any of those women wanted Justice why did they a settle outside? Sometimes money shouldn't be the answer if it's a predator walking around. Thahz me playing devil advocate though
What class/postion/year should I do next? Was thinking of doing 2019 Saints draft class re visit...
I suggest a video on the 2010 QB class.
Yes❤
2014 CB Class
The Saints, really?
expand from just doing QBs and do the whole first round, or do late round surprise players
Nathan Peterman fun fact: he would have a higher passer rating if he'd thrown nothing but incompletions.
😂
I wish he’d pin this 😂
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Oh he does.. it just wont help that the other throws are completions to opposite corners etc 😉🤪
I already knew this, but being reminded still made me laugh
A lot of guys found their way to the colts
CJ Beatherd, Matt Barkley, Brian Hoyer? The Niners should have been arrested for that line up😂😂
dude, we had to ride the Garappolo rollercoaster for the next 6 years, that's not punishment enough?
No. 3 #1's plus for that dumped scrub but then you got a scrub playing like a hall of famer
@kred792 Jimmy G's first half season with us was insane! 6-2? Remember we were 0-8 and then we traded for him and it looked like (just like Brock Purdy) he was our savoir. Well we know what happened next but I will give Jimmy G he's credit. He was a average quarterback who didn't do too much but didn't do enough neither.
The fact the New York Jets passed on both Mahomes and Watson is baffling
They picked christian hackenburg the year before
Hackenberg was so bad he couldn’t even compete for a practice squad slot, the only reason he was on that roster as long as he was was because he was selected so damn high by incompetent management
you answered your own question, it's the Jets
Watson??? 🤣🤣😂😂
As a Jets fan, believe me it isn't... At all.
Really enjoying these. Keep up the good work!
Say what you want about Deshawn Watson, most of it is deserved and he's fallen completely off as a player, but a 3 time Pro Bowler and highest paid player in all of the NFL, calling him a BUST is going a touch too far. He's regressed miserably tho
Chad Kelly also won the CFL mvp too.
the fact that Nathan Peterman keeps getting contracts blows my mind
He's good in the locker room and getting the starting QB ready for the game. He's awesome in practice which makes him a good backup to run the scout team. You just hope to death you never need to use him
@@billsfeverreminds me of how Tim Boyle had a job despite his god awful college stats and even worse professional stats. The very definition of intangible value
CJ Beathard was a great pic!! He was the reason why they drafted Kittle, they wanted him to throw the ball to someone he is familiar with.
Davis Webb had faced some issues, people claiming that he will replace Eli Manning is the started did not help the case.
Watson was had an ability to break down defenses and get his way. Real ball buster, that guy.
2017 class actually has some success. Some of the backups did disappear but some did somewhat well as backups.
Would love to see a a video on the 2015 QB class. All backups and a couple of guys who never made it though I thought they’d be better (Bryce Petty, Brett Hundley, Connor Halliday). Also would mind the 2016 QB draft as well. Besides Goff, this one was littered with busts. Wentz, Lynch, Hackenberg, Cook, Cardale Jones, Jake Coker et al.
Mitch Trubisky ….. brooo I still don’t know why the bears did that trade
Because they’re the bears.
49ers wasted their gains on that trade, if it makes you feel any better. Cut Soloman Thomas, cut Rueben Foster, cut Dante Pettis, and missed out on Alvin Kamara
The bears are what we thought they were 😂
After Garrett went #1 overall, there was no reason to trade. If Mitch went #2 to SF, then Bears pickup Watson instead.
Everyone is kicking themselves in the foot for overlooking Mahomes, but honestly there's no doubt in my mind most teams would have squandered him too. He landed in the exact right place.
This was the worst quarterback class of the 2010s if you ignore the fact that the greatest quarterback of his generation was drafted in 2017. 😆😅🤣😂
2013 was way worse
2013 says hi
Insane. It can't be the worst qb class of a draft ever if Mahomes was in it. Mahomes alone keeps this class from ever being the worst class ever.
as others already said, 2013 is objectively worse since the best QB in that draft -- by far -- is Geno Smith, who is a middling QB on his best day.
How is Nathan Peterman still an NFL QB? Legitimate question
racism is the only answer i can think of
@@Yay4Yay Can you see the racism there in the room with you?
Nah dawg it not racism even though Nathan Peterman sucks the NFL can do whatever they want they make the rules it there house so yea there system is racist and rigged and not perfect but that why we need our own league and then we can hire black QB more often @@Yay4Yay
@@billquantrill4960racism is system
@@Yay4Yaythe NFL was created in whites image so of course they hire more white QB's 1st they do what is best for them whites 1st not the real racism it human nature I actually am ok with whites people not liking me.
The Peter........Man.
I was one that said he Patrick Mahomes was going to be a great legendary QB and so far he is. I said that as soon as he announced he was entering the nfl Draft.
I'm pretty sure 2017 is the greatest QB class ever! Yeah, I'm a Chiefs fan.
Exactly! The best QB 😊
I think you should do the 2012 Center class
Do where every 1st round pick in the 2014 draft is now
Calling Watson a bust is a wild take. Man made the playoffs twice and led the league in passing. He maybe overpaid now due to his ridiculous contract but far from a bust. He was considered a top 5 QB before he left football for nearly a yearf and a half.
Not really a bust but will go down as a huge disappointment if he never plays anymore. He got paid, then he "checked out" mentally.
If he’s not a bust. He’s as low as you can get without being one. He failed the team that drafted him.
@Lifesabeach91 he didn't fail the team that drafted him. Lol he played very well for the Texans. Gave them everything you look for a franchise QB until the relationship went soul. Then he help give us those extra draft picks they can rebuild with an even better and cheaper QB in Stroud. That is a total win for the Texans.
@@Attack_Pillowwtf are you talking about? He took those horrible Texans to the playoffs multiple times and won the division as well. You people don’t watch / know football. He was practically forced out of the league for nearly 2 years. It’s a reason the browns signed him to a fully guaranteed contract at the number they did. SMH
@@day-trishad3937he was forced out of the league because he’s a terrible human being, you browns fans love defending him 😂
Watson isn’t a bust he’s good didn’t play two and a half years give him another year to get back into the swing of things.
did not give excuses to Deshaun Kaiser because Brian Kelly said he was not ready for the NFL and Pete Carol said the same thing about Marc Sanchez and both those players became bust and they should’ve listened to their coach
Any QB class with a hall of fame caliber QB is not a bad class. Literally makes it a top 15 class
Not really. There are currently 23 QBs in the HOF and the only year that I can recall that had multiple HOFers was 1983. This doesn't even include sure things like Peyton Manning (1998), Brady (2000), Mahommes (2017) and Brees (2001) and potential entrants like Rothlisberger (2003), Rivers (2003), Stafford (2009), Rogers (2004) and Eli Manning (2003).
@@allanhee there are 36 QBs in the NFL HOF
That Josh Dobbs run last year will be a trivia question someday.
I went to Tech during the Mahomes and Kliff era. Davis Webb was the starter then, and in my opinion, the superior QB. Interesting to see how both of their careers turned out.
Josh Dobbs had a career year last year and you made it sound like it was nothing
There are teams that just don’t know how to evaluate, draft and coach QBs. Chicago is a prime example. They fall in love with EVERY college QB highlight reel. Mark my words, Caleb Williams won’t survive his rookie contract with the Bears. Before that contract is over, he’ll be in another NFL team’s uniform.
Ehhh. I hope not, but I kinda agree.
You can't call a player a bust unless he was a first round and didn't do anything with his career the expectation that people put on these players, it's ridiculous. You're talking about other people, not just other people. People doing what you dream of doing you couldn't pass a ball 20 yards let alone make a d1 roster
The Buffalo Bills weren’t the “last” team in the state of New York for Davis Webb.
They were the only team in the state of New York.
the 2021 class could turn out to be far worst then the 2017 where you have Mahomes + Watson who when he was rolling was a top 5 QB. His play this year will define the legacy of the QB draft class if he returns to form. Love the video but to QBR or Passer Rating is a much better stats for QBs then Yds or Pass-INT ration. Keep it up.
If you look at Pettermans multiple INT game not all of those were his fault. He put the ball in the WR hands and they popped it up for grabs.
Fun fact here, Brad Kaaya's mom plays Falisha on "Friday"
Fun Fact: Brad Kaaya is the son of Felicia from the movie Friday.
Trubisky needed more development. sad what happened to him. If he's a good system quarterback then play to his strengths, and script the hell out of the game plan.
Trubisky is a curse word in my house.
Nice video
Those allegations against Watson were handled outside of civil court, there were never any criminal charges. That's not definitive proof the allegations were true.
Peterman did exactly what any of us would’ve done had we made it to the NFL… 5 interceptions lol
everyone gets on the bears for taking tribiksi instead of mahomes but the real crime was the 49ers passing on mahomes and taking soloman after the bears gifted them mahomes
Watson and Mahomes are good but there was more talent expected to succeed.
Sleeping on my boy Cooper Rush 😤. Second best QB in the class
How can anyone consider Watson a bust 😂 all pro aren’t bust bro
Do you prefer washed?
Watson is closer to a disappointment than a bust. He had all pro potential, but he faced legal issues and has never been the same.
@@billquantrill4960 yes you could say after all his nonsense he’s not what he was sure
@@briannettles669 yes he was never a bust
@@bevonbryan2476 He looked great under O'Brien.
Should do class of 2002.
Da bears letting go of a bust just to draft another bigger bust is such a bears thing to do 😂
I always knew Trubisky would be a bust 😂
The problem with the Bears when they drafted Trubisky was, they were drafting a quarterback with the highest floor, not the highest ceiling. Trubisky did many things well, but he was not great or elite at anything. Suppose you do not have any elite skill sets as a quarterback, such as athleticism, passing ability, or ability to read defenses. In that case, you will never be better than a league-average quarterback. Trubisky was never better than a league-average starter at best.
Nathan Peterman eventually led us to Josh Allen, so I'm ok with him, lol.
Man every time I see Chad Kelly I can’t stop looking at his un even eyes lol
Mitchell Trubiskey for sure.
that kid from texas tech is kind of good tho 🤷♂️
I don't know how often you look at your comment sections, but this video is a revelation for any and all who would like to know how the main-stream media forms our opinions about people, places, and things. I call this vid, "the Fleecing of Watson". The blogger here spent hours researching this topic, and this is what he found: ua-cam.com/video/SMCsw4-X6GY/v-deo.html
You guys can't find a better way to make money then to bash kids out of college calling them bust right away its so ridiculous say something positive or like most people don't know how to
How many QBs do you expect to come out every year? 2 amazing QBs is great. So let's quit acting.
All were a bust except for Mahomes. Some of those players never did get a fair chance at try outs.
Watson wasn’t a bust
Oh wow the 2013 QB class was trash 🗑️ with Geno Smith being the best of the bunch😂😂😂
Scott Fisher, didn't you die on Everest in 1996? Lol
The 1st 20secs explains it.
Mahomes absorbed all the potential from this class😂
2011 nfl draft running back class
gonna work on that
Bears scout: There are two good QBs in the draft so...
GM: We trade up to 2 and draft the white one!
Scout: Mein Fuhrer...
I'ma Brown's fan an they were ass, but to call kizer a franchise qb was beyond a stretch an more of shot a Cleveland... Ur'a 🤡
Davis Webb is yolked
Mahomes, and Watson was the best
Dobbs is him!!!
Tom brady is obviously a better quarterback than patrick mahomes
See Jay Beat Hard…lol
Talk about the Saints 2017 draft class
2013 was worse
Scawtt fishchr iz tresh
“It turned out to be true…” on Watson’s $exua1 allegations. Huh? When was he convicted? Oh, I guess you’re one of those who presumes guilt until proven innocent. I hope Watson sues Houston and gets defamation suits on all the women who lied. By the way, I never read that he “forced” anyone to do anything. At worst, he asked. I could be wrong on that last part, it’s been a while. I just hate seeing the same lame chatter against a man who was “accused”. A lot of those accusations have a funny way of disappearing under scrutiny. We all know a good number of those women just saw $$$. Sad what happened to him.
Deshaun Watson did nothing wrong.
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A bold but profoundly stupid take.
@@mjjoe76I will say though i dont agree... If any of those women wanted Justice why did they a settle outside? Sometimes money shouldn't be the answer if it's a predator walking around. Thahz me playing devil advocate though