I always wonder how good he could’ve been with the Steelers dude would’ve had a chance to learn behind a HoF qb for a year then get handed the reins to a very solid offense
@@devilishdonut1390idk what constitutes a hidden gem in your eyes but if a QB drafted in the 6th round that is a capable starter and excellent backup who can help you win games in a pinch and has a positive TD/INT ratio and is arguably better than some starting QBs who were drafted earlier isn’t a hidden gem, then idk what is
Drew Lock could’ve been a decent plugin starter like Minshew if the Broncos weren’t an absolute dumpster fire that didn’t have a coaching staff run by clowns that also didn’t know or care to develop him. His rookie year was promising but we fired Rich Scangarello so we could use him as a scapegoat to blame for the season’s failure, and the Broncos decided to hire Pat Shurmur to replace him despite Shurmur being one of the worst coaches in the league, which ruined Lock’s development. It also didn’t help that Lock was benched for Teddy Bridgewater which hurt his confidence and development even more. I know I sound like a Drew Lock apologist but it can’t be understated just how much Denver sucks at developing QBs and how much of a circus the organization is
ill never forget how despite the fact that Trace McSorley led his high school to four straight state championship game appearances, very few high major recruiters looked at the six foot tall 180 pounder and said quarterback.
Missed the chance to talk about how Mike leach developed Minshew at Washington state. In recruiting him to Washington state coach leach called him and the first thing he said was “how would you like to lead the whole NCAA in passing yards”……he did.
I was driving on I95 on that stretch where Haskins was hit. I passed him not knowing it was him and saw him trying to cross the highway. I was wondering why the hell anyone would try to do that.
Drew Lock was/is not the best QB but as a Seahawks fan I will always remember his game against the Eagles in Week 15 and him winning the game with a pass to JSN.
Jake Browning was also part of the 2019 NFL rookie QB class. He was an undrafted free agent. He spent several seasons on the practice squads of the Vikings and the Bengals before winning a job as a backup for the Bengals in 2023. He actually started seven games this past season for the Bengals after Joe Burrow was injured.
As a Broncos fan, I would argue that Drew Lock wasn't really given a chance. He had a head coach, Vic Fangio, who didn't care about the offensive side of the ball. Fangio wasn't interested in developing a QB, he wanted an old veteran. During the one season where Lock was the starter, Fangio admitted that they only used about half of the playbook, because he and the OC didn't have confidence in Lock, nor did they want to work with him. That said, part of the problem with incoming QB classes is due to QBs like Mahomes. Now if a rookie QB isn't immediately an all star, they are deem worthless.
Should have rode it out with Lock one more year and drafted a QB if it didn’t work out instead of mortgaging the future in that awful Russell Wilson deal.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 okay but this group is full of bums besides Kyler and Kyler visually and talent wise is better than Dj. He definitely was a reach and is not a franchise Qb
Strong arm, decent stats at the combine and his height and weight look good. But you need a lot more than that at the NFL. The big issue that I think you see is the INTs he throws and won’t make him good at that level.
One of the great things about college football is the fan base judges you based on what you did in school, not that you couldn’t hack it in the league. Cities and towns across America have guys you completely forgot about as local legends.
I find it funny as a giants fan how fans of other teams think of Jones as a reach and an overall disappointment. But many giants fans hate his guts and you’d think he was the biggest bust of all time.
Gardner Minshew is just the new Ryan Fitzpatrick lol. He is really that in between QB. A well above average backup QB but just slightly below average starting QB.
Jags fans have no hate in their heart when it comes to Gardner. We will love and support him no matter where even when he went to the Colts. Except when he played us.
Had Haskins lived I think he might have been a baker mayfield type. Bounce around a bit then figure it out and be decent. He had all the tools. Rip young man.
Minshew on the Raiders is going to be a problem for Broncos fans. I remember when we played him his rookie year. I was at that game and oh my lord he could NOT be stopped!
When you reach for ANY player INCLUDING QBs you’re going to see some spectacular disasters. It’s not just that teams reach for QBs, but those teams often don’t know how to develop QBs. Whether you become a Hall of Famer or a bust often times depends on who drafts you. Has anyone wondered why QBs drafted #1 overall don’t generally have overly successful careers, especially with the team that drafted them? Former #1 overall picks, Plunkett and Stafford, won Super Bowls but not with the team that drafted them. Reaching and inability to develop players is a chronic problem for bad franchises.
I don't think any QB drafted after round 2 that only turns into a backup level qb is a disappointment, QBs drafted later than the 2nd are seen as backup level QBs and anything more than that is a plus, it's only a disappointment if they do absolutely nothing
2018 Eli Manning: 4299 yards, 21 TDs, 11 INTs, 92.4 passer rating. Daniel Jones matched this only in 2022 and had the Giants not drafted him, they could and probably would have drafted a QB in the 2020 draft with a far better QB class.
not really relevant but halfway thru this video, I got an ad for Miller Lite, for Detroit Tigers fans. I live over 700miles from Detroit, dont watch baseball, AND I dont even drink
Daniel Jones, Drew Lock and Will Grier all had potential but they was a flop….. Gardener was a hidden gem and Kyler Murray is the best qb taken in that draft.
You guys need to let up all of a sudden everyone is a bust they throw them kids into the starting role right away and then there a bust destroying career not funny more success rate when guys sit a year or two
Dwayne Haskins was a Dan Snyder pick. The coaches and scouts (i.e., Jay Gruden) had serious questions about him but would have considered him later in the draft, maybe even in the 2nd. They ended up trading back into the 1st round for Montez Sweat as sort of a compensation for acquiescing to taking Dwayne. So dysfunctional.
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RIP Dwayne Haskins 🙏
He's in hell where he belongs
SO SORRY BROTHER R.I.P. 😢
RIP
I always wonder how good he could’ve been with the Steelers dude would’ve had a chance to learn behind a HoF qb for a year then get handed the reins to a very solid offense
@@retroguy3344he had a good chance of being good
Gardner minshew getting drafted in some backyard shirtless in some Jean shorts will forever be legendary real Florida man
Hes from Mississippi but he does give Florida energy
@LTJG8032 I'm my heart, he's from florida 😂😂😂
@@LTJG8032he played QB for my schools biggest rival 😂
Gardner is still the best hidden gem in a while, besides purdy
Purdy👎
He ain’t no hidden gem
He's the most interesting QB, that porn mustache helped a lot.
@@devilishdonut1390idk what constitutes a hidden gem in your eyes but if a QB drafted in the 6th round that is a capable starter and excellent backup who can help you win games in a pinch and has a positive TD/INT ratio and is arguably better than some starting QBs who were drafted earlier isn’t a hidden gem, then idk what is
Tyrod Taylor is pretty good too
Drew Lock could’ve been a decent plugin starter like Minshew if the Broncos weren’t an absolute dumpster fire that didn’t have a coaching staff run by clowns that also didn’t know or care to develop him. His rookie year was promising but we fired Rich Scangarello so we could use him as a scapegoat to blame for the season’s failure, and the Broncos decided to hire Pat Shurmur to replace him despite Shurmur being one of the worst coaches in the league, which ruined Lock’s development. It also didn’t help that Lock was benched for Teddy Bridgewater which hurt his confidence and development even more. I know I sound like a Drew Lock apologist but it can’t be understated just how much Denver sucks at developing QBs and how much of a circus the organization is
Bro as a broncos fan I totally agree drew lock is a good qb and was improving until we hired pat shurmar that was the worse thing to do he failed drew
Denver broncos failed drew lock
Drew Lock is not a starter. We saw him play plenty in Seattle, he was not good.
@@oakjim206how many games did he start in Seattle?
ill never forget how despite the fact that Trace McSorley led his high school to four straight state championship game appearances, very few high major recruiters looked at the six foot tall
180 pounder and said quarterback.
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Missed the chance to talk about how Mike leach developed Minshew at Washington state. In recruiting him to Washington state coach leach called him and the first thing he said was “how would you like to lead the whole NCAA in passing yards”……he did.
I was driving on I95 on that stretch where Haskins was hit. I passed him not knowing it was him and saw him trying to cross the highway. I was wondering why the hell anyone would try to do that.
Thank you for assessing the class 5 years later instead of overreacting after most of the guys don’t have a full season under their belt. Great work!
Drew Lock was/is not the best QB but as a Seahawks fan I will always remember his game against the Eagles in Week 15 and him winning the game with a pass to JSN.
He was lowk doing good against the 9ers too but they wouldn't let him pass that much
What I wanna know is why he always looks like he's constantly being haunted by bad memories.
You been improving lately and like how you’re uploading regularly now. Keep up the good work. I like your style of videos
Jake Browning was also part of the 2019 NFL rookie QB class. He was an undrafted free agent. He spent several seasons on the practice squads of the Vikings and the Bengals before winning a job as a backup for the Bengals in 2023. He actually started seven games this past season for the Bengals after Joe Burrow was injured.
Minshew is this generation’s Ryan Fitzpatrick.
FitzMagic is way better
How he make a pro bowl
I actually use to be neighbors with Gardner Minshew
Cool
The hats crazy I was neighbors with a wr for the packers and the offensive coordinator
Im from Germany so I started to watch football very late. Dwayne Haskins was the first guy I ever bought a jersey of, that shid crushed my soul
Why isnt american football popular in Germany
Probably things like soccer is watched more.
Good video and good stuff paying it forward for another Creator
I like this format; where the two of you trade off narration duties. Reminds me of Secret Base.
The Kyler Murray contract extension shenanigans was enough for a video on its own 😂
This man’s calling day 3 backups still in the league disappointing which is just odd.
Love these vids
As a Broncos fan, I would argue that Drew Lock wasn't really given a chance. He had a head coach, Vic Fangio, who didn't care about the offensive side of the ball. Fangio wasn't interested in developing a QB, he wanted an old veteran. During the one season where Lock was the starter, Fangio admitted that they only used about half of the playbook, because he and the OC didn't have confidence in Lock, nor did they want to work with him. That said, part of the problem with incoming QB classes is due to QBs like Mahomes. Now if a rookie QB isn't immediately an all star, they are deem worthless.
Should have rode it out with Lock one more year and drafted a QB if it didn’t work out instead of mortgaging the future in that awful Russell Wilson deal.
R.I.P Dwayne Haskins 🙏🏾🕊
Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and Gardner Minshew ended up being the three good apples from the rotten tree.
Daniel Jones is a good option for a backup QB
Daniel jones as top ten draft pick is not a good apple
@@steezyniqqaoffdabloc The only QB in the group with a playoff win.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 okay but this group is full of bums besides Kyler and Kyler visually and talent wise is better than Dj. He definitely was a reach and is not a franchise Qb
@@steezyniqqaoffdabloc he's a five year starter and on a second contract after winning a playoff game. That is a franchise QB
Kyle gets paid to care more bout COD, then his playbook
Great video
I've never understood what made people think Drew Lock was going to be a NFL caliber QB. He should become a rapper and call himself Drew Lock Shakur.
Strong arm, decent stats at the combine and his height and weight look good. But you need a lot more than that at the NFL. The big issue that I think you see is the INTs he throws and won’t make him good at that level.
Great videos Add any undrafted qbs that had action. Jake Browning this past season 👍
We get it, LeBron said “taking his talents to” when he did The Decision. You don’t have to say it for every player.
Apologies for the major inconvenience🫡
What was the Seth Russell injury? Paralysis?
I would really like to see you review the 2021 draft class. That’s a really interesting class. Lawrence really had a bad second half of the season.
I used to watch lock play in high school and had no idea 💀
ahh yes Christian Hackenburg the guy that got me introduced to this amazing channel
almost 4 years ago!
Isn’t Easton the brand name of a hockey stick manufacturer lol
Trace McSorley did pretty good as a three star recruit good for him for lasting so long
One of the great things about college football is the fan base judges you based on what you did in school, not that you couldn’t hack it in the league. Cities and towns across America have guys you completely forgot about as local legends.
Sunny Indianapolis? My guy I live here that's never how we describe it lol
You need to do the 2004 QB draft class
Minshew is the man. A limited QB, but he plays hard and is fun to watch. Perfect QB for Leach, mentality-wise at WSU. Just a football player.
Kyler Murray is primed to have a pro bowl Caliber season with MHJ and an upgraded OL.
Do a vid on Steelers 1974 draft class
I've said for years that just because they're the best QB in the draft doesn't always mean they're worth a top 5 pick
2020 QB class 4 years later would be awesome to see. One of the best classes of all time
I remember everyone thought Drew Lock was going to be the next Elway.😂
damn 5 years ago 😂
The sixth round strikes again!
Fellow Mizzou alum here, commenting to help youtube out
lets gooo Drew Lock segment💯
I find it funny as a giants fan how fans of other teams think of Jones as a reach and an overall disappointment. But many giants fans hate his guts and you’d think he was the biggest bust of all time.
Gardner Minshew is just the new Ryan Fitzpatrick lol. He is really that in between QB. A well above average backup QB but just slightly below average starting QB.
We love Kyler praise. Quite literally the most disrespected n overhated players in the league
The 2019 class has a bunch of journeyman QBs. This is a pretty decent but not a bad class.
You should talk about how good the 2020 qb class looks
The thing about Minshew is that he statistically outperformed Trevor Lawrence in Jax.
Hell quiet as kept he had a rookie season on par if not better than kyler Murray
Rest up Simba
Jags fans have no hate in their heart when it comes to Gardner. We will love and support him no matter where even when he went to the Colts. Except when he played us.
As a Patriots fan, Bill O'Brien and Matt Patricia killed Stidhams chances
Easton Stick is a beast in Madden
How are they saying 5th and 6th round qbs are dissapointments they are drafted to be backups at best
Daniel jones did not deserve that contract he got.
I had high hopes for Grier
Lock needs another shot, it was clear Fangio didnt want him and you wont find success with a coach who doesnt like you
Had Haskins lived I think he might have been a baker mayfield type. Bounce around a bit then figure it out and be decent. He had all the tools. Rip young man.
Grade all teams 2020 draft class full draft class not just 1 round
Minshew on the Raiders is going to be a problem for Broncos fans. I remember when we played him his rookie year. I was at that game and oh my lord he could NOT be stopped!
Sunny Indianapolis took me out lmao
Did Daniel Jones play for thr Bell System football team?
Trace McSorley was great college QB was never meant to made right for NFL though
When you reach for ANY player INCLUDING QBs you’re going to see some spectacular disasters. It’s not just that teams reach for QBs, but those teams often don’t know how to develop QBs. Whether you become a Hall of Famer or a bust often times depends on who drafts you. Has anyone wondered why QBs drafted #1 overall don’t generally have overly successful careers, especially with the team that drafted them? Former #1 overall picks, Plunkett and Stafford, won Super Bowls but not with the team that drafted them. Reaching and inability to develop players is a chronic problem for bad franchises.
"A fumbling mess" if you add "on crutches or in a sling" you've just described most of the running QB's coming out of college now. 🤣
howd you guys miss the meme ryan finely is smiling at the camera against the steelers😭😭😭
Minshew proves own value in this season!
Who would have thought Minshew, Grier, Stidham and Stick would be the best QB's! The only one superstar was Kyler.
I have a hard time believing 2019 could be worse than 2022. Brock Purdy looks like the best one of the bunch and he was Mr. Irrelevant.
Given the longevity of the modern QB- thanks to medical advances and rule changes - 2 or 3 QBs sticking per year is about par
Easton Stick is probably going to stay with the Chargers for 10 years. They love him.
**you clearly havent seen most of these guys play and it hurts the vids, makes em lame**
That’s definitely not how to pronounce “Daboll” 🤔
My bad brother 🫡
I don't think any QB drafted after round 2 that only turns into a backup level qb is a disappointment, QBs drafted later than the 2nd are seen as backup level QBs and anything more than that is a plus, it's only a disappointment if they do absolutely nothing
2018 Eli Manning: 4299 yards, 21 TDs, 11 INTs, 92.4 passer rating. Daniel Jones matched this only in 2022 and had the Giants not drafted him, they could and probably would have drafted a QB in the 2020 draft with a far better QB class.
not really relevant but halfway thru this video, I got an ad for Miller Lite, for Detroit Tigers fans. I live over 700miles from Detroit, dont watch baseball, AND I dont even drink
i cannot think of any player who has caused more damage to the giants than daniel jones
I Truly Believe Haskins would of been a star in Pittsburgh 😢🙏 Rip GO BUCKS 😭
Daniel Jones is steadily improving just like Eli did. Jones will win a Superbowl with the Giants eventually. I suspect in 4 to 7 years.
"Brian Da-Bowl"
Witch qb draft class was Patrick Mahoms drafted in?
2017
@@observeandreport2011 Thanks😊
Ooops! You forgot about Jake Browning. From practice squad to Bengals starter.
No one will remember Thorson as a legend
Daniel Jones, Drew Lock and Will Grier all had potential but they was a flop….. Gardener was a hidden gem and Kyler Murray is the best qb taken in that draft.
i was a huge mark for minshew
Really think the Giants should’ve drafted Haskins R.I.P 🙏 😢
Who is Nick Sorely?
I'm here pretty much only for Drew Lock. 🔥🏈
RISE UP RED SEA!!!!!!
You guys need to let up all of a sudden everyone is a bust they throw them kids into the starting role right away and then there a bust destroying career not funny more success rate when guys sit a year or two
Can’t believe I’m gonna have to deal with year 6 Daniel Jones
Who the heck is Brian DABULL it’s DAY-BOLL DAY-BOLL
Drew lock is as well my fav MIZZ player of all time
Wonder how many QBs would have been good with a decent offensive line???
Dwayne Haskins was a Dan Snyder pick. The coaches and scouts (i.e., Jay Gruden) had serious questions about him but would have considered him later in the draft, maybe even in the 2nd. They ended up trading back into the 1st round for Montez Sweat as sort of a compensation for acquiescing to taking Dwayne. So dysfunctional.