I feel like ERP is perfectly valid as long as you keep it private. Don't go disturbing others with it and you're basically all good. For people in LDR's it can be a valid way of just doing stuff with their partner and that's fine by me
This seems to be the general opinion from most people in VRchat. Anyone who ERPS tends to do it in specific areas or in ways that don't disturbs the public. Most of the clubs involved in erp tend to be private underground clubs like the ones I explored outside of the video for research reasons. It's really interesting and makes a lot of sense as, just like in real life, you don't want to see in the corner of your eye someone doing the dirty while you are just having lunch with some friends!
This was genuinely really interesting! While the mutes / underage folks issue is VERY much something to keep in mind, I for one think ERP is a net good, being able to express oneself in such a way with appropriate company in whatever body you want to inhabit - i.e. whatever role you wish to play - is such a fantastic thing we're able to do and it was great to see it honestly discussed here without making too huge a joke out of it or demonizing those who do or would like to take part in it.
I'm happy to hear that you thought it was so interesting, also glad to hear your take. When it originally making this video, I wanted to make sure to stay pretty neutral as this is a big part of a lot of people's lives and to make a joke out of it would be unfair to them. Either way, so glad you enjoyed and I hope to make more content for you in the future ☺️
'Net' good isn't a good decision metric for many things. For example, using some made up numbers, let's say that for every 100 consenting adults that get their nut on there is one kid being taken advantage of, you're basically saying that it's fine to sacrifice one kid to sexual predators so that 100 people can get their nut on. The numbers are just made up, but regardless of the ratio you're still agreeing to sacrificing kids to predators in exchange for sex. There's all kinds of such dicey situations when it comes to evaluating things based on 'the greater good', and the reason you should be personally concerned is because if 'the greater good' was used like you mentioned for decision making, the next time you go to the hospital for some minor thing you might suddenly find your organs being forcefully donated to save the lives of many others.....or just one person who makes more money or is more impactful to society than you.
@@FiltyIncognito It truly is a shame that predators will always be a problem. However, I think one thing to keep in mind is that the root of this issue goes way past ERP and is a problem at virtual reality's core, taking away the physical aspect of ones identity. It's a really interesting topic that I find myself thinking about quite a bit as there really isn't at this time a way to solve the issue.
@@FiltyIncognito That's a very good point actually! I didn't mean to invalidate the experience of those who have suffered as a result of ERP, it's disgusting that younger folks have been taken advantage of through it, my intention was more to highlight that the act itself among consenting adults - the "appropriate company" I mentioned in my initial post - shouldn't be automatically demonized and it was nice to see this documentary approach it more objectively. Thank you for opening my eyes to why "net good" is a harmful way of putting it.
@@TheDapperSaint Aye. It is quite interesting. But to be clear, I'm not stating an opinion one way or the other about VR or VRC. It's a very weighty, complicated issue that I'm not willing to tackle. I'm just pointing out something dangerous that some people might be accidentally/unwittingly saying. Many people often use the 'greater good' argument not realizing the implications because of the emotional distance between the 'sacrificed' and the benefiting masses, so I try to help people understand. And to clarify, I'm not shitting on people who don't understand it on their own. There's a ton of traps, biases and other human tendencies that cause us to make all kinds of bad decisions....because that's just how we're built. It takes some really smart people to carefully examine and think about things to get around our natural failings. I just happened to have a deep interest in philosophy while growing up and went out of my way to learn all kinds of cooky things that most people normally wouldn't.
Wow there’s a lot of confusion in these comments about phantom touch. Phantom touch is *real* but the technical term is “Tactile Hallucination” and it doesn’t happen to everyone. Tactile Hallucination is a result of your sensory inputs failing to correctly communicate with the somatosensory cortex, and are common in people with neurodivergent traits, and in amputees (the shock of having lost an entire limb will often cause tactile hallucination). One of the most common neurodivergent traits that presents itself in people who experience tactile hallucinations is Restless Leg Syndrome (a syndrome which causes your legs to feel itchy, painful, etc and forces the person to move their legs) There have been several studies done, most of which have been able to replicate the feeling of tactile hallucinations on the forehead using virtual objects, but were only able to do so when the person wearing the headset believed the object would have collided with them in such a way that would be painful. So yes, “Phantom Touch” is real, and it’s even able to be purposefully replicate for the sake of testing. I hope this helps some people out with their confusion
Thank you for the great description, well said! Can only go over so much in the video due to pacing so glad that someone wrote out a good explanation in further detail.
@@TheDapperSaint You did a very thorough job with the amount of time you had, and not every one has the time or willingness to sit down and read studies (I tried to link the study I was referring to in a reply but UA-cam deleted it) so I would have never expected a comprehensive break down on such a complex topic. That being said though: maybe a more specific video in the future once you get your full body trackers would be in order. I see a bunch of people all looking for explanations and I get the sense you would do a good job providing it. Keep up the good work!
so its like you felt something you wasnt supposed to feel? i felt like that hapens to me sometimes when i tried to use my own imagination to immerse myself
ATTENTION! Since a lot of people are curious, I will eventually get back to making these types of videos. The only thing stopping me is that I want to get full body tracking which will happen next month! In the meantime, hope you sons of guns enjoy the other weird content I make 😊 EDIT: ya boi got some trackers finally
They are more difficult to get one. I only saw japanese using that ,because the company don't supports overseas shipping 😂 HaritoraX is cheaper than Q2 💯
Thank you so much! That seriously means a lot to hear! There really aren't too many videos over the subject, so I'm happy I took a leap of faith to make something over it. 😅 Hope you enjoy my other odd videos haha
While I have yet to participate in VRChat, I've done more than a little ERP online, and I really enjoy it as a fun way to roleplay, to have a good time, and to make others feel good as well. I suspect that as more people participate in virtual sex in whatever form, the more the stigmas and taboos around sexuality, sexual orientations, gender, etc. are going to fade to whatever degree. I doubt we'll ever be completely free of sexism, homophobia, sex negativity, etc., but I suspect that such topics will gradually lose most of their "forbidden" aspect because of cybersex in its many forms. I also know that having played males, females, and even futanari, I've learned a lot not only about my own sexual preferences, but also what people of the opposite gender go through at different times, both good and bad, and it's been something of an eye-opener for me. Having been on the receiving end of unwanted sexual advances, for example, have made me more sensitive to how I flirt with other people and more aware of how I can easily come on too strong, but to my credit I try not to get too obnoxious and will quickly back off and apologize if someone tells me I'm getting too close to them in whatever fashion. ERP and cyberflirting have also helped me come out of my shell, at least online; IRL I'm very socially awkward, and being able to flirt and be playful in a safe space have helped me learn how to be flirty and frisky without placing myself at risk for anything worse than being muted or even banned temporarily, whereas (unfortunately) flirting with the wrong person can get you raped, beaten, or even killed, which definitely makes it hard to practice a valuable skill in interacting with others in a healthy sexual manner.
Well said. Sadly issues involves sexism, homophobia, etc, will always be around due to human nature. People will always try to find a reason to treat people differently. 😕 On a side note, I'm really happy that the world of erp has been beneficial when it comes to better understanding yourself 😊
Why waste your time in a virtual world when you could spend time in reality? I don't get why people ignore the good things in real life. Enjoy the trees, nature, outdoors, the world in general. Don't waste your time in a man-made reality.. Don't waste your time ERPing in a vr game when you could be doing something much better out of the headset
@@wrenchisnotanerd People can do both, it isn't like you're locked into one path and that's it. you're making it seem like anyone who does this kind of thing instantly loses all grasps on reality. As for the why, in the video I explained that it allows for things not normally possible as anyone can be whatever they like. I don't do it myself, but it's not like them doing such a thing has any harm on you or I, so really whats the problem?
At 8:50 they said one of their rules was ‘everyone is a guy until proven otherwise’. I understand this, there are a lot of traps on vrchat. However, as a woman this is can be really annoying as a lot of people aren’t convinced i am, especially since i naturally have a rather cute and attractive voice (or so i’ve been told). When it comes to ‘proving’ i’m really a woman, how do i possibly do that without exposing personal information such as images of myself? It does feel unfair sometimes.
That's actually a really good question, and I'm sorry you have to deal with that. I think putting it in your bio and stuff like that may help, but honestly at the end of the day, if they can't believe you then that's there problem really I suppose
I mean, at the end of the day, if someone tells me they are female I just take it at face value. I dont really care about peoples gender. I just have it as a rule of thumb going into vrc. If people give you a hard time about it, then they clearly dont deserve your time.
Yeah that bothers me too. :c I understand the reason for erp, but I hate having to prove myself to people that I am an girl. And when I do, they get extra weird about it. 😖
@@nicknak4315 if it sounds like a female, and looks like a female, it's female, regardless of gender or sexuality, in VR you can ERP with everyone as long as you verify they are old enough, have a voicechanger and an opposit sex avatar to change into
I feel like documentary and interview style videos really suit you. just from an outsider when I look through your channel I sadly don't see a lot of content like this and it's a shame! not to knock your other content, but you're really good at this!
I’ve been getting into erp. It’s become such a good thing for me as I’m very self conscious about my irl self and I don’t have to worry about that in vrc. I can say the age stuff is scary. I don’t generally trust anyone unless I can hear their voice. I wanted to update on this. So I don’t hang out with randoms anymore which is great because I already know the age of the people i hang out with. But I’ve made a good group of friends who are honestly cool and they’ve gotten me into the club scene which is so much fun.
ngl erp seems sketchy and weird. Like i don't have a vr headset or anything (planning on getting a quest 2 soon) but like this phantom touch stuff seems like bs haha though I might change my mind abt phantom touch once I get myself a vr headset
@@aspicio I used to think so, but it’s so fucking insane. It is a real thing, and actually it doesn’t start from VR. People who are missing limbs actually get them all the time where there limb is suppose to be. But yea, I don’t always get phantom touch, but if someone touches me just right, then I feel it and it’s freaky
@@aspicio it's something that is hard to understand until you get into it or have it happen to you. Even I myself have had phantom touch before despite never partaking in erp. My best way to explain it to someone who hasn't done VR before is think back to a time where you felt a sensation due to something that couldn't actually affect you, like the crawling feeling of a bug due to a roach or something that you saw or that sense of dread accompanied by an immersive horror game. These situations can provoke a reaction on a psychological level that causes you to almost feel bugs crawling around you, or that something is actually breathing down your neck despite nothing being there. Phantom touch essentially effects that same area of your brain and induces the feeling or presence of something you actually can't feel. This is due to your brain filling in the gaps as all you are missing is that sense of touch. The human brain is known to do crazy things like this all the time, like one of those grey photos with lines of color in it, yet without looking closer, your brain fills in those areas full of color despite it actually being grey. I know that im not the best at explaining it, but I hope that that kind of made sense!
@@aspicio also, as far as erp goes, just remember that it definitely isn't for everyone! It's totally understandable if you arent interested in something like that! 😁
Phantom touch is like remembering things from a blackout. Your mind creates something that makes sense from what it knows. I ran around a fire to reach someone who feel in from a safe distance, turns out I actually jumped into the damn fire. My brain took the before and after memories to decide what happened during the missing moment. Phantom sense is the same. It takes what you're seeing and tries to fill in the blanks the best it can. That's why people say they can feel something, but it doesn't feel like what it would feel like in reality. Their mind is filling in the blanks, but it isn't sure exactly how to do it.
Being trans in the real world is so crazy hard it feels hopeless at times. In VRC I’m female, I’m powerful, I can be who I really want to be, I can train my voice and my mannerisms, I’m learning and growing as I go. Really super happy that I watched this video~
I hope that one day people will be able to look past ones physical form and understand them for who they are. At least in VR we can get a glimpse of what that would be like. Glad you enjoyed and that it meant something for you. Stay strong 💜
@@TheDapperSaint Videos like this are seriously your strong point, when I saw you only had 1.5k subs I was shocked, extremely underrated channel, please keep up the awesome work!
ERP is how I met my boyfriend. We now live together and have a wonderful relationship. This game changed my life for the better. As long as erp is in private worlds and among consenting adults then I have no problem with it
I loved the inteview, seriously. It really makes me happy and my head "tingle" hearing how people discover themselves thanks for those worlds and start seeing people and interactions in a different way. I also want to keep discovering myself without being rejected, so i think social games like VR Chat could be a great platform to follow my path.
It's a really open minded world out there in VR chat, and while not everyone is exactly nice, the majority will appreciate you for who you are. Hope you enjoy your time, and I wish you the best of luck!
Actually I'd love to see a piece on gender expression in VR. Before I played VRchat I was super insecure about myself but after getting all the support and encouragement I need from these online strangers life got so much better for me. Oh and fucking love the vid, keep up the great work friend ☺️
There is a video by "Strasz" called "Gender, Identity, and VRChat", that's probably why I got this video recommended. It's a very interesting watch, that video and a lot of videos in his channel
"LOOK AT ME MOM, I'M A FRICKIN CATGIRL" and "I'm talkin Thicc Thighs, Oppais, and probably a Surprise" got a good laugh from me lmao. Take this like, you earned it.
I can't do ERP and I known about the subject for a long time since I played MMOs. But in VR chat, I can't criticize the individuals as many look for a connection. I give them props for trying but leave them be as well. I never tried ERP because it does not pique my interest but many of my friends have and since still do ERP when they got into it, I just don't see it with purpose for me when I saw it in action.
Yo, this was such a good video and the interviews were very professional and the explanations were pretty much head one, you need some more subs man, might've been better than some of the bigger channels videos that I've seen on this topic
I've had a similar experience in NSFW discord servers. You get to know the person over what they look like and without voice, you can only judge them on what they type. It's made NSFW stuff seem a lot more common as well, which is good, cause it shouldn't be as taboo as people think it is!
Preach it. The taboo surrounding sexuality honestly drives me fuckin nuts because it's just... Us being human. And it's really a shame because like, human sexuality is actually quite a beautiful thing in a way and we shouldn't be shying away from it
I have really strong phantom touch even though I have only half body tracking and have only had vr for a short while. I think it might have to do with me being into stuff like tulpamancy and hypnosis where you're purposefully focusing on sensations and trying to trick your body into seeing hearing or feeling things.
I recently just experienced this. Man it was something. I went into this game thinking I was completely straight. Boy I was wrong. An absolutely entertaining video! 👏
I've felt phantom touch way back even b4 vr chat got off by doing that plastic hand experiment in highschool but holly shit did it feel so much more powerful once I experienced it in this game. My avatar was a small roll of toilet paper, and as I was walking around mirror mutes, a group of them motioned me to sit in the middle of the pile on their laps. It felt so sureal. Thing is, I don't even have a virtual headset, as i'm only on m+kb. Imagine how way more crazy it would have felt if i had a headset.
I’m a total newbie to ERP after like.. 3 years playing, got curious and decided to ask around and post about it somewhere - queue me meeting a guy and we get on amazingly and we don’t even end up screwing - end up talking for six straight hours about nothing and joking around. +1 awesome friend! :]]]
So that's what ERP means... I like the video by the way. I love to watch documentary videos and I enjoyed this one, just like the other documentaries that I have watched. You totally deserve some subs!
Really happy to hear that you enjoyed! I have some other topics in mind that I'll be going over! Shame that college takes up a ton of my time as I love making videos haha
Wow, is no one gonna talk about how in 6:45 the editor made it so that the voice moved to the right side to trigger the ASMR feeling? It definitely worked for me. A great touch!
Incredible content, and those were some great people you interviewed, even down to the end where the guy wanted you to drop a link to a friend of his rather than himself. UA-cam is clearly broken in order for you not to have more subs.
The Just B Club was created by Blue-kun 🔵 and they actually have a Patreon for people to donate! You get special access to vip rooms, and even special roles in their discord server! It's definitely a great place, and everyone is so kind. I'm so happy you showed off Their work!!
@@TheDapperSaint absolutely! A bunch of my friends like to go and hang out there every now and then, no erp even involved. It's a really chill space with a lot of interactive environments and games, the Creator did an amazing job!
I never thought that i would ever stumble upon a good vrc youtuber but damn... This was so high quality that i will check out your other content now and prob subscribe! Keep it up this is great!
Thank you so much! This is a the first documentary video I've made so far, but I'll definitely make more when I get full body tracking! I hope you enjoy the other content I make as well! 😊
@@TheDapperSaint Ah fbt... I wish i could get my hands on some trackers but i got to fix my terrible airlink latency with a new router first and getting your hands on any of the cheap but good trackers is nearly impossible...
I have a friend about 6 years ago. at the time i was 12 and so was he. He always used to lie about his age and had ERP with people. I only found out about what he was doing when he told me. (i know him irl) i wasnt shocked but i was dissapointed. The mutes/underage topic is VERY important to keep in mind.
Idk if you sons of guns noticed, but in the name of content I'll just about make anything haha! Once again, I just wanted to say thank you for all the support! I honestly love making videos and its because of all of you that I have the chance to make videos like this. If you wanna support me even more check out my Patreon, but honestly a like and a comment is more than enough for me. Stay Dapper! ;) www.patreon.com/TheDapperSaint
Great quality! If you want more insight into various aspects of VR, I'm happy to share my experiences. If you want to dive into the dance community sometime let me know!
@@TheDapperSaint must've been a painful topic to work out what to show and what to leave out. all of it is weirdly taboo with those out of the loop. Best to play it safe tho, mentioning the various succubus lounges and incubi sects which now exist as half roleplay half erp groups on discord and vrc is asking for a strike.
My friend linked this to me after i accepted his proposal to help him develop stuff for VRC. Honestly, I didn't know this was a thing and am glad this video really explained of what I'm getting myself into. Insta subscribed!
I am happy that i could help and that you enjoyed. Not sure what you are trying to develop for VRC, but hey good luck friend :) Hope you enjoy the videos that are to come!
Phantom sense… ahh what a double edged sword. I’m one of those few that has hyper-sensitive phantom touch. Full package. Everything. If it’s on the avatar, I can feel it. No, I don’t know where the sensation of ears and tails comes from. It makes interacting with people in public worlds difficult. I use to keep it quiet and not tell anyone, but nowadays I leave it in my bio and tell anyone who pulls out swords or guns near me. If they try sh!t, then I block them. I mean I don’t really have a choice, do I? Either block the random person who’s being a d!ck about not understanding phantom touch or suffer headaches for the next several hours once I get away. Overall though, I wouldn’t trade away phantom sense. We play VR for immersion in the first place, right? It makes some games feel so real and breathtaking. Gliding past mountains. Sitting by a campfire. Jumping off high places. Drifting in a hot spring. Being whoever and whatever you want to be. Being able to hug friends far away. Do… you know… this video explains a lot about that. Engaging in adrenaline pumping combat in Pavlov (a VRFPS) Feeling a ghost breathe down your neck as it gets closer to you in Phasmophobia (this game is actually very phantom-sense friendly thank god, because the for the death animation, hands reach around your head, and you are teleported to another room without seeing anything really happen). And even the feeing of flying around and casting magic or slamming swords down onto enemies in Zenith. It all feels so real. It fills the huge gap of loneliness from COVID-19; needing to interact with people and friends, and I am honestly truly thankful for that.
The kid saying he can feel phantom touch in his anime cat ears is the kind of scenario that makes me call bullshit on the topic. The "anticipation of touch" explanation was comprehensive, though.
UA-cam really hasn't noticed me yet sadly, but maybe one of these days I'll blow up! 😅🤣 All that aside thank you so much, and I've funnily enough never actually tried it haha
That was a great video the people you interviewed are very nice I miss playing VR chat I started playing in 2017 I have about 12K hours in VR chat I think I might hop back on again
This was an incredible analysis of erp culture! Seriously, you're right about the tech involved. If I were to tell my younger self that this would exist at the quality and popularity it embodies, I wouldn't believe it. I also believe that phantom feels are totally a real thing, I've felt it quite often. Though, will say it was much more potent when I first started using VR. I suspect that because your eyes see people and places that do not line up with reality, it interprets VR as real. Like, outside of erp, I was standing on a dock in outerspace and got vertigo and a sudden fear of falling. Even if it wasn't actually there. Anyways, I'm eager to watch how the tech evolves over time and how it shapes social and cultural practices in the many communities that call VR home and their fellow VRers (??) familty.
I feel like I only used VR or VR chat or just any game that I will be able to interact with other people, just to use it as escaping from reality or to make friends in general. But no literally there are people out there who would just be your friend for a couple minutes and ask you to ERP. I don’t think it’s the best way and I really think its the best to distant yourself from people like that. but I see why people would do it and generally it’s just what they feel like doing and I get it- 😂😨
Wow, kinda went into this video expecting to get the usual jokes about this side of VRChat. (I do find those videos very funny though.) I did like seeing other peoples perspectives on the matter. As for myself, being a VRC player since 2018 and just remembering how i was at the beginning, really looking down upon those peeps who erp, to me nowadays, having full body and being a low key erper myself. Its pretty fascinating to look back through my whole timeline and how this changed me and my views.
We all are a little jaded at first due to our own preconceived notions, but once we open up to a topic, it's crazy to see how much can change! I mean, never in my life would I have expected to be making videos on UA-cam several years ago yet here I am!
Fantastically entertaining and educational video, very good work on it :3 Also you make for an absolutely adorable catgirl. Plz have more of dis in the future uwu
On the topic of Phantom Touch... I have had very mixed experience with this. As one with a pretty... Wild imagination both described as such by me and people I know and regularly nerd out with in D&D the Phantom Touch idea is very much real for me at times. Both as positives and negatives. Through maybe hugging a friend in VRChat, imagining the fur of a dog in some other VR game to the feeling of how a firearm works in one of the various simulator games. Of course on the negative side, this extends to things like maybe getting hurt like punching a virtual wall when I don't actually hit anything in real life. Which just makes immersion all the much better and just makes the experience that much more fun, to me at least. And initially it was pretty panicking but I eventually hit the point of my brain while still registering these 'phantom' feelings it eventually understood these were non-existent feelings and could differentiate between them and eventually make them 'temporary.' In short. It can be absolutely great for immersion in games but it's also extremely disorientating if you're able to 'tap into' this Phantom Touch.
Thank you so much, I try my best!! Hey maybe one day I'll be one of those big UA-camrs! But in the meantime, I'll just enjoy making odd videos online 😭🤣
As someone who experience -[Im Ace don't you dare ]- ERP in a *Public* Ghost lobby - I have a very negative look towards it. It just wasn't pleasant just hearing... Somebody spanking their monkey through their mic. Hell back when I was mute somebody flashed me in that Avatar hall - I was a BonBon. A Little Blue Rabbit puppet from FNaF (Mute + FNaF Avatar = possibly kid). Keep it behind closed doors please & for the love of gog don't go flashing people at random. Honestly I just wanted a small look into why people where into 'this' and I feel a little more educated as why others are into it.
So I met some nice people on black cat,but then they went and hid somewhere as I was following, this led up to me hearing everything while hiding in a box.
Like others have stated, this was an awesome video on a subject that still needs many more videos here in UA-cam. I am left wondering of the ratio of Assigned at birth males and females in VrChat in general, and in the ERP scene too. Would be really interesting to know more about it. Perhaps an idea for a future video? Could include all genders etc of course too, but its yet another interesting topic. :)
@@TheDapperSaint I think just documentaries about vrchat and other groups games would be cool :) also just another suggestion would be to create a separate channel for vods and let’s plays or a separate channel for documentaries like maybe try and separate the content slightly
@@phoenixfront I am way too small to have multiple channels haha. But I do love these kinds of vids and want to get more engaged with this content, may be even working on another video project soon who knows haha
ERP is a very interesting concept, but at the same time... i dunno why people are so annoyed /surprised that it exist. ERP has been a thing for years now, not just on VRChat. I know there are discords that are specifically for NSFW stuff, you can have a ERP texting with someone. I tried it before with a few people and it is quite fun. VR Chat seems like a natural revolution of ERP... especially because VR Chat is basically an RP anyways, you play as a character. People make stuff like this to be gross, but if you think about it, what makes real s3× not gross? It's actually even more gross. Personally I have no issues with erp, havent tried it in vrchat, but as long as you go to priv room or priv world, why would it be a problem. VR Chat in general is a very horny place. I do agree with that dude saying about being straight and meeting people by who they are not what they look. It can be weird.
I met a 16 year old the other day with age listed in profile who was openly bragging about ERPing with older men for VRC+ subscriptions. If the parents knew VRChat would be shut down overnight.
Phantom touch is a real thing, its your brain feeling a sensation because you're extremely immersed. How are people gonna say how someone feels is fake lol. The brain is powerful, just look at placebos.
On the topic of mutes and trusting them, I've taken to just treating them all like a small child. Regardless of their size or Avatar. I don't know ASL, yet, but I do know some hand signs, so I'll talk to them in like "baby babble" ASL. I just understand I'm not going to pursue a more complex relationship with that person, but I'll treat them like they're a child of one of my friends the entire time they're present.
Also if you're more interested in trying to talk to mutes on VR chat, American sign language (ASL) is very widely used. If you know it, try just signing to a mute and seeing if they respond!
@@TheDapperSaint it's a great skill to have! I'm trying to learn it myself, but the lack of finger movement in the game do make things hard sometimes hahaha
Glad to know that there are people who see ERP as fine more as I happened to research, long as private, and respectful overall in general. I guess I happen to meet some people who are against it, becuz that's how they see it on social media. Think they are the ones being weird about it cuz they treat it as taboo, close-minded... Or, just not used to it, yet. If they just plain 'do not wanna understand the reason, logic, of why ppl do such things behind it and know' like, they won't do such thing in VR or anything online in the first place... Understandable. x3 Along with things likewise mentioned with "be careful of who u ERP with.". Takes trust. Won't want the FIB to knock on our door at midnight and something could happen. Or, happen to lose a friend over it because of it becuz they happen to have cancer cancel culture crawling on them really quickly cuz they have no patience cuz they wanted things super really fast for some odd reason like they sound liek they are abusing. (It's probably a good point that they are not really a good friend at all, maybe should do something...) *Shrugs* Lul. Yeah, I think I rather trust a good long-time friend with who I chatted for a long long while a long time than maybe. Date, depending on if they are comfortable, yes. Deep relationship, depending, that too. Of course.
What the heck? You're so underrated! The editing is amazing 👏 Just your videos in general are very fun and informative. You need more fame than u have rn! New subscriber 💕
Woah, thank you so much for the kind words. I really do love editing and just making videos in general so I'll try my best to make more uh, questionable videos haha.
Also, I don't mind taking my time with the whole game part. UA-cam isnt very kind to small content creators, but it is nice when random videos suddenly get good views! Don't be stranger okay 😊
Okay I Love These Videos talking about Vrchat culture. As I am New to IT and Heard someone mention it but Not wanting to explain it. Also WTH WHY IS THIS VIDEO SO GOOD AND UNDERRATED. I WANT MOOOOORE Also.... Could you make a compilation of your omori lets Play? I Love that Game and played through both routes and I Love watching people Play that!
I am so happy that youve been enjoying my content, and its good to hear that this video was pretty informative! As far as omori goes, I will probably make a compilation of my favorite moments down the line as I know the playlist is of course quite lengthy haha
Okay, as someone who was lewd back in 2018 all the way to 2022 and has had a metric ton of drama over it, you'd think I would be an advocate for erp. I am on the fence. I think it's a good way to have a healthy, long distance relationship, but erp 'culture' in vrchat, which btw I more or less made main/stream,/ is toxic. 99.99% of vrchat drama seems to revolve around lewd. That's all I'll say. Most people can hump air. Very few people can stick to just one partner or keep their barriers known. Thus, you have people being overly attached and people who do the big cheat.
I really like people like this, because well…the smaller they are. The more likely they Are to appreciate their audience. To work harder and to respond to them. I dropped a sub. I’m curious though, what’re their skins? I really like both of them.
Haha it's always nice when someone stumbles upon my channel, so of course I'd be grateful! Seriously, thank you for the kind words and I hope you enjoy the other type of content I make as well! As far as skins go, I think nik naks is just a hard to find skin where as kouras is made for them.
I feel like ERP is perfectly valid as long as you keep it private. Don't go disturbing others with it and you're basically all good. For people in LDR's it can be a valid way of just doing stuff with their partner and that's fine by me
This seems to be the general opinion from most people in VRchat. Anyone who ERPS tends to do it in specific areas or in ways that don't disturbs the public. Most of the clubs involved in erp tend to be private underground clubs like the ones I explored outside of the video for research reasons. It's really interesting and makes a lot of sense as, just like in real life, you don't want to see in the corner of your eye someone doing the dirty while you are just having lunch with some friends!
This is my opinion on the subject.
Lol no
Yeah I feel like it should be done in private because if it’s in a public world full of people it’s essentially e-public indecency
well yeah…
I will forever go by the rule of
"Do whatever the fuck you want, as long as nobody gets hurt."
If you're having fun, you're having fun WOOHOOOO
That's a GREAT attitude to have towards this kind of thing heck yeah
Language..
Some things are better not to do even if they don't *seem* to hurt anyone
@@TheDapperSaintLanguage..
Some things are better not to do even if they don't *seem* to hurt anyone
This was genuinely really interesting! While the mutes / underage folks issue is VERY much something to keep in mind, I for one think ERP is a net good, being able to express oneself in such a way with appropriate company in whatever body you want to inhabit - i.e. whatever role you wish to play - is such a fantastic thing we're able to do and it was great to see it honestly discussed here without making too huge a joke out of it or demonizing those who do or would like to take part in it.
I'm happy to hear that you thought it was so interesting, also glad to hear your take. When it originally making this video, I wanted to make sure to stay pretty neutral as this is a big part of a lot of people's lives and to make a joke out of it would be unfair to them. Either way, so glad you enjoyed and I hope to make more content for you in the future ☺️
'Net' good isn't a good decision metric for many things.
For example, using some made up numbers, let's say that for every 100 consenting adults that get their nut on there is one kid being taken advantage of, you're basically saying that it's fine to sacrifice one kid to sexual predators so that 100 people can get their nut on.
The numbers are just made up, but regardless of the ratio you're still agreeing to sacrificing kids to predators in exchange for sex.
There's all kinds of such dicey situations when it comes to evaluating things based on 'the greater good', and the reason you should be personally concerned is because if 'the greater good' was used like you mentioned for decision making, the next time you go to the hospital for some minor thing you might suddenly find your organs being forcefully donated to save the lives of many others.....or just one person who makes more money or is more impactful to society than you.
@@FiltyIncognito It truly is a shame that predators will always be a problem. However, I think one thing to keep in mind is that the root of this issue goes way past ERP and is a problem at virtual reality's core, taking away the physical aspect of ones identity. It's a really interesting topic that I find myself thinking about quite a bit as there really isn't at this time a way to solve the issue.
@@FiltyIncognito That's a very good point actually! I didn't mean to invalidate the experience of those who have suffered as a result of ERP, it's disgusting that younger folks have been taken advantage of through it, my intention was more to highlight that the act itself among consenting adults - the "appropriate company" I mentioned in my initial post - shouldn't be automatically demonized and it was nice to see this documentary approach it more objectively. Thank you for opening my eyes to why "net good" is a harmful way of putting it.
@@TheDapperSaint Aye. It is quite interesting. But to be clear, I'm not stating an opinion one way or the other about VR or VRC. It's a very weighty, complicated issue that I'm not willing to tackle.
I'm just pointing out something dangerous that some people might be accidentally/unwittingly saying.
Many people often use the 'greater good' argument not realizing the implications because of the emotional distance between the 'sacrificed' and the benefiting masses, so I try to help people understand.
And to clarify, I'm not shitting on people who don't understand it on their own. There's a ton of traps, biases and other human tendencies that cause us to make all kinds of bad decisions....because that's just how we're built. It takes some really smart people to carefully examine and think about things to get around our natural failings. I just happened to have a deep interest in philosophy while growing up and went out of my way to learn all kinds of cooky things that most people normally wouldn't.
Wow there’s a lot of confusion in these comments about phantom touch.
Phantom touch is *real* but the technical term is “Tactile Hallucination” and it doesn’t happen to everyone.
Tactile Hallucination is a result of your sensory inputs failing to correctly communicate with the somatosensory cortex, and are common in people with neurodivergent traits, and in amputees (the shock of having lost an entire limb will often cause tactile hallucination). One of the most common neurodivergent traits that presents itself in people who experience tactile hallucinations is Restless Leg Syndrome (a syndrome which causes your legs to feel itchy, painful, etc and forces the person to move their legs)
There have been several studies done, most of which have been able to replicate the feeling of tactile hallucinations on the forehead using virtual objects, but were only able to do so when the person wearing the headset believed the object would have collided with them in such a way that would be painful.
So yes, “Phantom Touch” is real, and it’s even able to be purposefully replicate for the sake of testing. I hope this helps some people out with their confusion
Thank you for the great description, well said! Can only go over so much in the video due to pacing so glad that someone wrote out a good explanation in further detail.
@@TheDapperSaint You did a very thorough job with the amount of time you had, and not every one has the time or willingness to sit down and read studies (I tried to link the study I was referring to in a reply but UA-cam deleted it) so I would have never expected a comprehensive break down on such a complex topic.
That being said though: maybe a more specific video in the future once you get your full body trackers would be in order. I see a bunch of people all looking for explanations and I get the sense you would do a good job providing it.
Keep up the good work!
@@porkupineexe6862 thank you so much for the kind words! I have a lot of ideas in mind so cant wait to get that full body tracking for them haha
so its like you felt something you wasnt supposed to feel?
i felt like that hapens to me sometimes when i tried to use my own imagination to immerse myself
@@shiro3146 Yeah pretty much! It’s pretty rare thing so be glad you get to enjoy it!
An excellent video! As a VRC veteran myself I can relate, the only thing I felt was missing was a female perspective.
Thank you so much! I tried originally to get that but it was hard finding someone comfortable enough to go on camera about it
Thats sad
@@TheDapperSaint it's almost like it's just dudes being perverted agps.
@@tonypepperonirec9483rec > vrc
W tony pepperoni
Quality content bro keep it up! Definitely make more content you’re video structure is great and will definitely pop off with consistency.
Awh, thank you so much!! Looking forward to making more higher production videos like these in the future after I get full body tracking 😁
ATTENTION!
Since a lot of people are curious, I will eventually get back to making these types of videos. The only thing stopping me is that I want to get full body tracking which will happen next month! In the meantime, hope you sons of guns enjoy the other weird content I make 😊
EDIT: ya boi got some trackers finally
Congratulations!!!
I'm waiting for my full body too~~I might get the trackers in March😆
@@DayDreamLifeinVR oh sick! What trackers are you thinking of getting?
HaritoraX from JP
I have pre-ordered ❤️
I'm also waiting for Uni-Motion to start pre-order 👍🏻
ua-cam.com/video/n_W9wDgYRMg/v-deo.html
@@DayDreamLifeinVR oh, I don't think I've ever actually heard of that one before! 😅
They are more difficult to get one.
I only saw japanese using that ,because the company don't supports overseas shipping 😂
HaritoraX is cheaper than Q2 💯
The script and pacing was excellent. Here from Blacklight and glad I watched.
You have my gratitude to the insight provided in this video and my sub.
Thank you so much! That seriously means a lot to hear! There really aren't too many videos over the subject, so I'm happy I took a leap of faith to make something over it. 😅
Hope you enjoy my other odd videos haha
Wow I didn't expect your sub count to be so low! The quality of this content is too amazing for that. Dropped a sub!
Thank you so much 😊 I've been having a blast with editing, so I'm kind of just waiting for the UA-cam algorithm to finally notice me haha
Yea
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@@mon0ghost thank you guys haha
Same! Dropped a sub also. I'm looking forward to more content from you. 😊💕
While I have yet to participate in VRChat, I've done more than a little ERP online, and I really enjoy it as a fun way to roleplay, to have a good time, and to make others feel good as well. I suspect that as more people participate in virtual sex in whatever form, the more the stigmas and taboos around sexuality, sexual orientations, gender, etc. are going to fade to whatever degree. I doubt we'll ever be completely free of sexism, homophobia, sex negativity, etc., but I suspect that such topics will gradually lose most of their "forbidden" aspect because of cybersex in its many forms. I also know that having played males, females, and even futanari, I've learned a lot not only about my own sexual preferences, but also what people of the opposite gender go through at different times, both good and bad, and it's been something of an eye-opener for me. Having been on the receiving end of unwanted sexual advances, for example, have made me more sensitive to how I flirt with other people and more aware of how I can easily come on too strong, but to my credit I try not to get too obnoxious and will quickly back off and apologize if someone tells me I'm getting too close to them in whatever fashion.
ERP and cyberflirting have also helped me come out of my shell, at least online; IRL I'm very socially awkward, and being able to flirt and be playful in a safe space have helped me learn how to be flirty and frisky without placing myself at risk for anything worse than being muted or even banned temporarily, whereas (unfortunately) flirting with the wrong person can get you raped, beaten, or even killed, which definitely makes it hard to practice a valuable skill in interacting with others in a healthy sexual manner.
Well said. Sadly issues involves sexism, homophobia, etc, will always be around due to human nature. People will always try to find a reason to treat people differently. 😕 On a side note, I'm really happy that the world of erp has been beneficial when it comes to better understanding yourself 😊
Fantastic comment, it could have come from my mouth! :D ❤️
Why waste your time in a virtual world when you could spend time in reality? I don't get why people ignore the good things in real life. Enjoy the trees, nature, outdoors, the world in general. Don't waste your time in a man-made reality.. Don't waste your time ERPing in a vr game when you could be doing something much better out of the headset
@@TheDapperSaint "Understanding yourself"? Cmon man..
@@wrenchisnotanerd People can do both, it isn't like you're locked into one path and that's it. you're making it seem like anyone who does this kind of thing instantly loses all grasps on reality.
As for the why, in the video I explained that it allows for things not normally possible as anyone can be whatever they like. I don't do it myself, but it's not like them doing such a thing has any harm on you or I, so really whats the problem?
At 8:50 they said one of their rules was ‘everyone is a guy until proven otherwise’. I understand this, there are a lot of traps on vrchat. However, as a woman this is can be really annoying as a lot of people aren’t convinced i am, especially since i naturally have a rather cute and attractive voice (or so i’ve been told). When it comes to ‘proving’ i’m really a woman, how do i possibly do that without exposing personal information such as images of myself? It does feel unfair sometimes.
That's actually a really good question, and I'm sorry you have to deal with that. I think putting it in your bio and stuff like that may help, but honestly at the end of the day, if they can't believe you then that's there problem really I suppose
Still unfair to you though :(
I mean, at the end of the day, if someone tells me they are female I just take it at face value. I dont really care about peoples gender. I just have it as a rule of thumb going into vrc. If people give you a hard time about it, then they clearly dont deserve your time.
Yeah that bothers me too. :c I understand the reason for erp, but I hate having to prove myself to people that I am an girl. And when I do, they get extra weird about it. 😖
@@nicknak4315 if it sounds like a female, and looks like a female, it's female, regardless of gender or sexuality, in VR you can ERP with everyone as long as you verify they are old enough, have a voicechanger and an opposit sex avatar to change into
Think about it if you have a voicechanger and a feminine + masculine avatar, you can be with anyone regardless of gender or sexuality, truly amazing.
Yeah it's actually really interesting truth be told
So what you're saying is vr chat is just a bunch of genderfluid pansexual people hanging out. Amazing
@@solsystem1342 not really, but a few of them might be
@@solsystem1342you me him her them that one girl the weird guy everybody
This game is 13+…
I feel like documentary and interview style videos really suit you. just from an outsider when I look through your channel I sadly don't see a lot of content like this and it's a shame! not to knock your other content, but you're really good at this!
Thank you! I just try to put a lot of effort into any video I can! The documentary videos will come back, just waiting on full body tracking!
This is the type of VRChat content I love 💕
Happy go hear that you enjoyed! Definitely one of my favorite videos I've made now!
@@TheDapperSaint can i ask you what the name of your penthouse is the server name I wanna make it my vrchat home you don’t have to
@@theotherkindofcoke6287 he mentioned it at the beginning it's the b club
@@theotherkindofcoke6287 the penthouse is in the server I talked about during the video!
@@autonixia2731 yeah what he said haha
I’ve been getting into erp. It’s become such a good thing for me as I’m very self conscious about my irl self and I don’t have to worry about that in vrc.
I can say the age stuff is scary. I don’t generally trust anyone unless I can hear their voice.
I wanted to update on this. So I don’t hang out with randoms anymore which is great because I already know the age of the people i hang out with. But I’ve made a good group of friends who are honestly cool and they’ve gotten me into the club scene which is so much fun.
That's really good to hear. I hope that your interactions in the world of VR can maybe help you when it comes to your acceptance of your self! 😊
ngl erp seems sketchy and weird. Like i don't have a vr headset or anything (planning on getting a quest 2 soon) but like this phantom touch stuff seems like bs haha though I might change my mind abt phantom touch once I get myself a vr headset
@@aspicio I used to think so, but it’s so fucking insane. It is a real thing, and actually it doesn’t start from VR. People who are missing limbs actually get them all the time where there limb is suppose to be. But yea, I don’t always get phantom touch, but if someone touches me just right, then I feel it and it’s freaky
@@aspicio it's something that is hard to understand until you get into it or have it happen to you. Even I myself have had phantom touch before despite never partaking in erp. My best way to explain it to someone who hasn't done VR before is think back to a time where you felt a sensation due to something that couldn't actually affect you, like the crawling feeling of a bug due to a roach or something that you saw or that sense of dread accompanied by an immersive horror game. These situations can provoke a reaction on a psychological level that causes you to almost feel bugs crawling around you, or that something is actually breathing down your neck despite nothing being there. Phantom touch essentially effects that same area of your brain and induces the feeling or presence of something you actually can't feel. This is due to your brain filling in the gaps as all you are missing is that sense of touch. The human brain is known to do crazy things like this all the time, like one of those grey photos with lines of color in it, yet without looking closer, your brain fills in those areas full of color despite it actually being grey. I know that im not the best at explaining it, but I hope that that kind of made sense!
@@aspicio also, as far as erp goes, just remember that it definitely isn't for everyone! It's totally understandable if you arent interested in something like that! 😁
Phantom touch is like remembering things from a blackout. Your mind creates something that makes sense from what it knows.
I ran around a fire to reach someone who feel in from a safe distance, turns out I actually jumped into the damn fire. My brain took the before and after memories to decide what happened during the missing moment.
Phantom sense is the same. It takes what you're seeing and tries to fill in the blanks the best it can. That's why people say they can feel something, but it doesn't feel like what it would feel like in reality. Their mind is filling in the blanks, but it isn't sure exactly how to do it.
That's interesting way of putting it!
did u melt your shoes
Being trans in the real world is so crazy hard it feels hopeless at times. In VRC I’m female, I’m powerful, I can be who I really want to be, I can train my voice and my mannerisms, I’m learning and growing as I go. Really super happy that I watched this video~
I hope that one day people will be able to look past ones physical form and understand them for who they are. At least in VR we can get a glimpse of what that would be like. Glad you enjoyed and that it meant something for you. Stay strong 💜
@@TheDapperSaint Videos like this are seriously your strong point, when I saw you only had 1.5k subs I was shocked, extremely underrated channel, please keep up the awesome work!
@@BambiVRC I actually had 8 before January so 😅 honestly can't complain!!
@@BambiVRC and thank you! I'll try my best
The problem with it is that none of its real. The “power” you feel is all an illusion
ERP is how I met my boyfriend. We now live together and have a wonderful relationship. This game changed my life for the better. As long as erp is in private worlds and among consenting adults then I have no problem with it
Oh hey congrats and I'm so happy for you two!!
Nah ain’t no way oders live together
I loved the inteview, seriously. It really makes me happy and my head "tingle" hearing how people discover themselves thanks for those worlds and start seeing people and interactions in a different way. I also want to keep discovering myself without being rejected, so i think social games like VR Chat could be a great platform to follow my path.
It's a really open minded world out there in VR chat, and while not everyone is exactly nice, the majority will appreciate you for who you are. Hope you enjoy your time, and I wish you the best of luck!
Also thank you haha
@@TheDapperSaint thanks, i will!!
love this
11:18 this is why I love VR and online interaction in general
It really is amazing what happens in the world vrchat and what's possible 😊
Actually I'd love to see a piece on gender expression in VR. Before I played VRchat I was super insecure about myself but after getting all the support and encouragement I need from these online strangers life got so much better for me. Oh and fucking love the vid, keep up the great work friend ☺️
Great idea! Also glad you enjoyed and that VRchat helped you so much for the better :)
There is a video by "Strasz" called "Gender, Identity, and VRChat", that's probably why I got this video recommended. It's a very interesting watch, that video and a lot of videos in his channel
"LOOK AT ME MOM, I'M A FRICKIN CATGIRL" and "I'm talkin Thicc Thighs, Oppais, and probably a Surprise" got a good laugh from me lmao. Take this like, you earned it.
Awh well thank ya :)
I can't do ERP and I known about the subject for a long time since I played MMOs. But in VR chat, I can't criticize the individuals as many look for a connection. I give them props for trying but leave them be as well. I never tried ERP because it does not pique my interest but many of my friends have and since still do ERP when they got into it, I just don't see it with purpose for me when I saw it in action.
Eh it's not for everyone so that's okay!
Yo, this was such a good video and the interviews were very professional and the explanations were pretty much head one, you need some more subs man, might've been better than some of the bigger channels videos that I've seen on this topic
Thank you! Definitely put my heart and soul into this video! Hope to see you around and that you enjoy the different types of content I make!
this was actually a hidden gem. honestly super glad youtube recommended this! ^^
Thank you so much! I seriously try to make every video fun, so I'm glad you enjoyed
@@TheDapperSaint keep up tthe great work then ^w^
@@omnibnnuy I'll try!!
I've had a similar experience in NSFW discord servers. You get to know the person over what they look like and without voice, you can only judge them on what they type. It's made NSFW stuff seem a lot more common as well, which is good, cause it shouldn't be as taboo as people think it is!
The future is now, let the NSFW commence!
Preach it. The taboo surrounding sexuality honestly drives me fuckin nuts because it's just... Us being human.
And it's really a shame because like, human sexuality is actually quite a beautiful thing in a way and we shouldn't be shying away from it
I have really strong phantom touch even though I have only half body tracking and have only had vr for a short while. I think it might have to do with me being into stuff like tulpamancy and hypnosis where you're purposefully focusing on sensations and trying to trick your body into seeing hearing or feeling things.
That could actually make sense, interesting!!
I recently just experienced this. Man it was something. I went into this game thinking I was completely straight. Boy I was wrong. An absolutely entertaining video! 👏
So happy that you enjoyed the video! And have fun in your "endeavors" so to speak 😉🤣
I love how it basically devolved into everyone figuring out they were bi
Ah yes, welcome to the sexuality rabbit hole my friend
I've felt phantom touch way back even b4 vr chat got off by doing that plastic hand experiment in highschool but holly shit did it feel so much more powerful once I experienced it in this game.
My avatar was a small roll of toilet paper, and as I was walking around mirror mutes, a group of them motioned me to sit in the middle of the pile on their laps.
It felt so sureal. Thing is, I don't even have a virtual headset, as i'm only on m+kb.
Imagine how way more crazy it would have felt if i had a headset.
That's really interesting! It's pretty cool that you guys did that experiment too haha.
It is seriously a pretty crazy feeling when it occurs.
I've felt phantom touch when I put my hand in a shower of sparks from a broken wire in Half Life Alyx.
That's actually a really interesting and cool moment of having phantom touch! Well, besides the fear you probably had for a second there lol
I’m a total newbie to ERP after like.. 3 years playing, got curious and decided to ask around and post about it somewhere - queue me meeting a guy and we get on amazingly and we don’t even end up screwing - end up talking for six straight hours about nothing and joking around. +1 awesome friend! :]]]
I'm glad you made a friend! That's very wholesome tbh
So that's what ERP means... I like the video by the way. I love to watch documentary videos and I enjoyed this one, just like the other documentaries that I have watched. You totally deserve some subs!
Really happy to hear that you enjoyed! I have some other topics in mind that I'll be going over! Shame that college takes up a ton of my time as I love making videos haha
Wow, is no one gonna talk about how in 6:45 the editor made it so that the voice moved to the right side to trigger the ASMR feeling? It definitely worked for me. A great touch!
Thank you so much, I put a lot of work into my videos haha
Tiny details are my fav
This editing is amazing! Also I didn’t know about ERP but thank you for the education
Glad you enjoyed! I put a lot into this video to make it both comedic and educational haha
Made me a subscriber
ok im just going to take a minute to appreciate your skilled with editing my guy like damn.
Why thank you! Its honestly great seeing a video come together slowly while thinking of ideas for the video!!
yo I fucking died when I realized the background music is from Persona 5. Well done.
Glad you also are a man of culture 😤😤
I don't comment often but this is really high quality! I hope you continue to create content!
I love making videos so I won't be leaving anytime soon don't worry! Glad you enjoyed enough to comment, and I hope you enjoy future videos as well!
Incredible content, and those were some great people you interviewed, even down to the end where the guy wanted you to drop a link to a friend of his rather than himself. UA-cam is clearly broken in order for you not to have more subs.
UA-cams algorithm is a tad on the wonky side that's for sure, but either way thank you so much 😊
The Just B Club was created by Blue-kun 🔵 and they actually have a Patreon for people to donate! You get special access to vip rooms, and even special roles in their discord server! It's definitely a great place, and everyone is so kind. I'm so happy you showed off Their work!!
It's a pretty cool place to hangout at to say the least!
@@TheDapperSaint absolutely! A bunch of my friends like to go and hang out there every now and then, no erp even involved. It's a really chill space with a lot of interactive environments and games, the Creator did an amazing job!
@@OktoberVanderslice definitely!
I never thought that i would ever stumble upon a good vrc youtuber but damn...
This was so high quality that i will check out your other content now and prob subscribe!
Keep it up this is great!
Thank you so much! This is a the first documentary video I've made so far, but I'll definitely make more when I get full body tracking! I hope you enjoy the other content I make as well! 😊
@@TheDapperSaint Ah fbt...
I wish i could get my hands on some trackers but i got to fix my terrible airlink latency with a new router first and getting your hands on any of the cheap but good trackers is nearly impossible...
"LOOK AT ME MOM! I'M A FREAKING CAT GIRL!!" Made me laugh and immediately subscribe 🤣 you have a wonderful sense of humor
heck yeah! Hope you enjoy the videos!
I have a friend about 6 years ago. at the time i was 12 and so was he. He always used to lie about his age and had ERP with people. I only found out about what he was doing when he told me. (i know him irl) i wasnt shocked but i was dissapointed. The mutes/underage topic is VERY important to keep in mind.
Idk if you sons of guns noticed, but in the name of content I'll just about make anything haha!
Once again, I just wanted to say thank you for all the support! I honestly love making videos and its because of all of you that I have the chance to make videos like this.
If you wanna support me even more check out my Patreon, but honestly a like and a comment is more than enough for me. Stay Dapper! ;)
www.patreon.com/TheDapperSaint
I kept having to pause to stop laughing and watch the vid. You're writing is great! Love it
Well I'm really happy to hear that you enjoyed it! Hope I can make you laugh in the future as well 😊
I just discovered you're channel from my reccomend and I am absolutely hooked to your content!
Hey there! I'm glad that you are enjoying my silly videos and I hope you enjoy future ones as well! 😁😁
Great quality! If you want more insight into various aspects of VR, I'm happy to share my experiences. If you want to dive into the dance community sometime let me know!
The dance community? Oh, I might be interested!!
I am trying to get into the dance community. Is there a way I can message you?
that mention of void tho, i was fuckin waiting for it lol
Only so much I can show before youtube strikes me down where I stand 🤣😭
@@TheDapperSaint anyone who's been around since 2019 knows exactly what went down in void, vgl and paradise
@@usec32 I mean fair. Originally I was going to show a few dungeons, but UA-cam would have actually destroyed me for that haha
@@TheDapperSaint must've been a painful topic to work out what to show and what to leave out. all of it is weirdly taboo with those out of the loop. Best to play it safe tho, mentioning the various succubus lounges and incubi sects which now exist as half roleplay half erp groups on discord and vrc is asking for a strike.
@@usec32 at the end of the day, im just happy I get to make such rediculous videos haha
My friend linked this to me after i accepted his proposal to help him develop stuff for VRC.
Honestly, I didn't know this was a thing and am glad this video really explained of what I'm getting myself into. Insta subscribed!
I am happy that i could help and that you enjoyed. Not sure what you are trying to develop for VRC, but hey good luck friend :)
Hope you enjoy the videos that are to come!
Phantom sense… ahh what a double edged sword.
I’m one of those few that has hyper-sensitive phantom touch. Full package. Everything.
If it’s on the avatar, I can feel it. No, I don’t know where the sensation of ears and tails comes from.
It makes interacting with people in public worlds difficult.
I use to keep it quiet and not tell anyone, but nowadays I leave it in my bio and tell anyone who pulls out swords or guns near me. If they try sh!t, then I block them. I mean I don’t really have a choice, do I? Either block the random person who’s being a d!ck about not understanding phantom touch or suffer headaches for the next several hours once I get away.
Overall though, I wouldn’t trade away phantom sense. We play VR for immersion in the first place, right?
It makes some games feel so real and breathtaking.
Gliding past mountains.
Sitting by a campfire.
Jumping off high places.
Drifting in a hot spring.
Being whoever and whatever you want to be.
Being able to hug friends far away.
Do… you know… this video explains a lot about that.
Engaging in adrenaline pumping combat in Pavlov (a VRFPS)
Feeling a ghost breathe down your neck as it gets closer to you in Phasmophobia (this game is actually very phantom-sense friendly thank god, because the for the death animation, hands reach around your head, and you are teleported to another room without seeing anything really happen).
And even the feeing of flying around and casting magic or slamming swords down onto enemies in Zenith.
It all feels so real. It fills the huge gap of loneliness from COVID-19; needing to interact with people and friends, and I am honestly truly thankful for that.
That's super interesting and I'm glad that it's more of a positive for you then it is a negative! 🙂
The kid saying he can feel phantom touch in his anime cat ears is the kind of scenario that makes me call bullshit on the topic. The "anticipation of touch" explanation was comprehensive, though.
Ive never felt that level of immersion before, so I get what you're saying!
Just discovered your content through the weirdness that is UA-cam recommendations, you have a really great format!
Why thank you, and I hope you enjoy my rediculous future content as well!
Striking Vipers episode in black mirror sums up how ERP makes you question who you are
Never heard of that, Ill have to look into that. :)
I love these kinds of videos! They're so insightful for people who aren't really in the loop for the VRC community! Big Ups!
Thank you! I'm glad that the video has been useful 😊😁
Are we not gonna talk about how adorable/wholesome this was? 0:23
Awh yes, wholesomeness in a video about ERP. haha
But jokes aside thank ya!
Only 800 views?! But your editing was so good though!
And if you ask me, yes ERP is fun :3
UA-cam really hasn't noticed me yet sadly, but maybe one of these days I'll blow up! 😅🤣
All that aside thank you so much, and I've funnily enough never actually tried it haha
@@TheDapperSaint Yee, just gotta find the right person
@@alphanoob9041 that's fair, either way I genuinely had a blast learning about this and doing research! 😤
That was a great video the people you interviewed are very nice I miss playing VR chat I started playing in 2017 I have about 12K hours in VR chat I think I might hop back on again
I'm really happy that you enjoyed! Had a blast with this whole things, so I'm excited to do more of these haha
okay adding that to my list of places to visit when i eventually have enough saved up social energy to visit vrchat again
Heck yeah, hope you enjoy your visit haha
Just found this channel and its soooo well done. The edits and how lively he talks!! Keep it going bro
Thank you so much! I'm glad that you like the content mate 😁😁
@@TheDapperSaint keep it going! U got a new sub and fan
@@ralphschulenberg6770 heck yeah 😁😁
This was an incredible analysis of erp culture! Seriously, you're right about the tech involved. If I were to tell my younger self that this would exist at the quality and popularity it embodies, I wouldn't believe it. I also believe that phantom feels are totally a real thing, I've felt it quite often. Though, will say it was much more potent when I first started using VR. I suspect that because your eyes see people and places that do not line up with reality, it interprets VR as real. Like, outside of erp, I was standing on a dock in outerspace and got vertigo and a sudden fear of falling. Even if it wasn't actually there.
Anyways, I'm eager to watch how the tech evolves over time and how it shapes social and cultural practices in the many communities that call VR home and their fellow VRers (??) familty.
you can tell you put a lot of effort into this. good job!
Oh yeah I put way too much effort into this, but I'm so happy that I did since this has become my favorite video I've made so far! 😊
OK, but I’m clipping so much from this video and making the memes. It’s so fucking hilarious.
Hey thanks I suppose 😁
Be sure to keep me posted so I can see them too!
this documentary was so good you deserve full bodyyyy!!!
Can't wait till I get it this month!!
Your video opened my mind to it, bro. I thought it was something embarrassing to do and now I see it the other way around.
That's really awesome to hear! Glad that you got something out of this video 😁
I feel like I only used VR or VR chat or just any game that I will be able to interact with other people, just to use it as escaping from reality or to make friends in general. But no literally there are people out there who would just be your friend for a couple minutes and ask you to ERP. I don’t think it’s the best way and I really think its the best to distant yourself from people like that. but I see why people would do it and generally it’s just what they feel like doing and I get it- 😂😨
People who are only trying to be your friend to ERP are probably people who you don't wanna be friends with anyway tbh.
This is actually a very insightful vid for those who don't understand.
Heck yeah! Mission accomplished!
Wow, kinda went into this video expecting to get the usual jokes about this side of VRChat. (I do find those videos very funny though.) I did like seeing other peoples perspectives on the matter. As for myself, being a VRC player since 2018 and just remembering how i was at the beginning, really looking down upon those peeps who erp, to me nowadays, having full body and being a low key erper myself. Its pretty fascinating to look back through my whole timeline and how this changed me and my views.
We all are a little jaded at first due to our own preconceived notions, but once we open up to a topic, it's crazy to see how much can change! I mean, never in my life would I have expected to be making videos on UA-cam several years ago yet here I am!
Fantastically entertaining and educational video, very good work on it :3
Also you make for an absolutely adorable catgirl. Plz have more of dis in the future uwu
I shall no worries! As I said, I am waiting on full body tracking before any other documentary videos!
@@TheDapperSaint Woot woot, full body tracked catgirlboy! :D I look forwards to it
On the topic of Phantom Touch... I have had very mixed experience with this. As one with a pretty... Wild imagination both described as such by me and people I know and regularly nerd out with in D&D the Phantom Touch idea is very much real for me at times. Both as positives and negatives. Through maybe hugging a friend in VRChat, imagining the fur of a dog in some other VR game to the feeling of how a firearm works in one of the various simulator games.
Of course on the negative side, this extends to things like maybe getting hurt like punching a virtual wall when I don't actually hit anything in real life. Which just makes immersion all the much better and just makes the experience that much more fun, to me at least. And initially it was pretty panicking but I eventually hit the point of my brain while still registering these 'phantom' feelings it eventually understood these were non-existent feelings and could differentiate between them and eventually make them 'temporary.'
In short. It can be absolutely great for immersion in games but it's also extremely disorientating if you're able to 'tap into' this Phantom Touch.
That's really interesting!!
Every time I enjoy a video and i'm like damn he's good. I see that you have 5k subs brruuhhh underrated
Thank you so much, I try my best!! Hey maybe one day I'll be one of those big UA-camrs! But in the meantime, I'll just enjoy making odd videos online 😭🤣
As someone who experience -[Im Ace don't you dare ]- ERP in a *Public* Ghost lobby - I have a very negative look towards it. It just wasn't pleasant just hearing... Somebody spanking their monkey through their mic. Hell back when I was mute somebody flashed me in that Avatar hall - I was a BonBon. A Little Blue Rabbit puppet from FNaF (Mute + FNaF Avatar = possibly kid).
Keep it behind closed doors please & for the love of gog don't go flashing people at random.
Honestly I just wanted a small look into why people where into 'this' and I feel a little more educated as why others are into it.
Yeah, it definitely something that should stay behind closed doors! I'm glad you got something out of this video btw! :)
i was surprised to see the word gog because i also unironically use it
is it a reference to anything in particular :)
@@rainfox7983 Perhaps. =v=
Jesus, the quality of this is insane. Well made video man!
I wish you luck with the algorithm!
(Dropped a sub as well :))
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoy my future content as well 😊 also, have a special announcement coming soon so look out for that!
@@TheDapperSaint Aye sir!
Thanks for sharing this, I appreciate the honesty.
Oh no problem I suppose!
This man is gonna get me into VRChat
Hey happy to be of service haha
This is such a great video this just makes me want to get vr moreee I want moment like that with others 😍🥺
Glad that you enjoyed the video so much!
8:51 100% agree with his statement
Someone uses a voice changer to deceive people😂
If they're used for bad way, it may hurts other people's feelings.
Voice changers are big scary haha
I've been on VRChat since late 2017 and I 200% absolutely agree and live by those rules.
So I met some nice people on black cat,but then they went and hid somewhere as I was following, this led up to me hearing everything while hiding in a box.
Oh my haha!
Like others have stated, this was an awesome video on a subject that still needs many more videos here in UA-cam. I am left wondering of the ratio of Assigned at birth males and females in VrChat in general, and in the ERP scene too. Would be really interesting to know more about it. Perhaps an idea for a future video? Could include all genders etc of course too, but its yet another interesting topic. :)
Totally a good idea that I will keep in mind since I'm gearing up to do more of these very soon 😁😁
@@TheDapperSaint Hehee yayyyy! Thanks for the reply! 😊
@@ImaplanetJupiteeeerr haha I try my best to respond, it's only fair since you went out of your way to comment 😄
@@TheDapperSaint ❤️
imagine just a full hour documentary on vrchat erp'ers
Oh lord, I think my brain would break from the amount of work haha
You're really good at making videos man! Keep it up
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoyed future videos as well 😁
Really good vid! If you could make more like this it would be great! :)
I'll definitely make more projects like this in the future! If there are any subjects that you are curious about let me know!
@@TheDapperSaint I think just documentaries about vrchat and other groups games would be cool :) also just another suggestion would be to create a separate channel for vods and let’s plays or a separate channel for documentaries like maybe try and separate the content slightly
@@TheDapperSaint also your editing is really good I’m jealous haha
@@phoenixfront I am way too small to have multiple channels haha. But I do love these kinds of vids and want to get more engaged with this content, may be even working on another video project soon who knows haha
ERP is a very interesting concept, but at the same time... i dunno why people are so annoyed /surprised that it exist. ERP has been a thing for years now, not just on VRChat. I know there are discords that are specifically for NSFW stuff, you can have a ERP texting with someone. I tried it before with a few people and it is quite fun.
VR Chat seems like a natural revolution of ERP... especially because VR Chat is basically an RP anyways, you play as a character.
People make stuff like this to be gross, but if you think about it, what makes real s3× not gross? It's actually even more gross.
Personally I have no issues with erp, havent tried it in vrchat, but as long as you go to priv room or priv world, why would it be a problem.
VR Chat in general is a very horny place.
I do agree with that dude saying about being straight and meeting people by who they are not what they look. It can be weird.
I can see this channel growing. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!! :)
I met a 16 year old the other day with age listed in profile who was openly bragging about ERPing with older men for VRC+ subscriptions. If the parents knew VRChat would be shut down overnight.
I don't think it would be shut down, but new guidelines would definitely be set
just b club is actually a really fun place to hang out, regardless. my 2nd favourite world atp
True, it's a really cool world. Went to a birthday party there the other day
Phantom touch is a real thing, its your brain feeling a sensation because you're extremely immersed. How are people gonna say how someone feels is fake lol. The brain is powerful, just look at placebos.
fantom touch feelings are nice especially with the head pats
Definitely!!
i think its because we are connecting to our inner monkey if you get what i mean XD
@@SpacedoutTO totally haha
On the topic of mutes and trusting them, I've taken to just treating them all like a small child. Regardless of their size or Avatar. I don't know ASL, yet, but I do know some hand signs, so I'll talk to them in like "baby babble" ASL. I just understand I'm not going to pursue a more complex relationship with that person, but I'll treat them like they're a child of one of my friends the entire time they're present.
Also if you're more interested in trying to talk to mutes on VR chat, American sign language (ASL) is very widely used. If you know it, try just signing to a mute and seeing if they respond!
I'm actually currently trying to learn it right now haha! My friend can't speak so I wanted to surprise her with me learning asl.
@@TheDapperSaint it's a great skill to have! I'm trying to learn it myself, but the lack of finger movement in the game do make things hard sometimes hahaha
Glad to know that there are people who see ERP as fine more as I happened to research, long as private, and respectful overall in general. I guess I happen to meet some people who are against it, becuz that's how they see it on social media. Think they are the ones being weird about it cuz they treat it as taboo, close-minded... Or, just not used to it, yet. If they just plain 'do not wanna understand the reason, logic, of why ppl do such things behind it and know' like, they won't do such thing in VR or anything online in the first place... Understandable. x3
Along with things likewise mentioned with "be careful of who u ERP with.". Takes trust. Won't want the FIB to knock on our door at midnight and something could happen. Or, happen to lose a friend over it because of it becuz they happen to have cancer cancel culture crawling on them really quickly cuz they have no patience cuz they wanted things super really fast for some odd reason like they sound liek they are abusing. (It's probably a good point that they are not really a good friend at all, maybe should do something...) *Shrugs* Lul.
Yeah, I think I rather trust a good long-time friend with who I chatted for a long long while a long time than maybe. Date, depending on if they are comfortable, yes. Deep relationship, depending, that too. Of course.
What the heck? You're so
underrated! The editing is amazing 👏
Just your videos in general are very fun and informative. You need more fame than u have rn! New subscriber 💕
Woah, thank you so much for the kind words. I really do love editing and just making videos in general so I'll try my best to make more uh, questionable videos haha.
Also, I don't mind taking my time with the whole game part. UA-cam isnt very kind to small content creators, but it is nice when random videos suddenly get good views! Don't be stranger okay 😊
reallly nice work .... i want more of this content
Itll come! Just waiting on some full body tracking currently!
Immediately subbed. Especially after that look mom I’m a cat girl joke.
Glad to be of service 😂😁
Okay I Love These Videos talking about Vrchat culture. As I am New to IT and Heard someone mention it but Not wanting to explain it.
Also WTH WHY IS THIS VIDEO SO GOOD AND UNDERRATED. I WANT MOOOOORE
Also.... Could you make a compilation of your omori lets Play? I Love that Game and played through both routes and I Love watching people Play that!
I am so happy that youve been enjoying my content, and its good to hear that this video was pretty informative! As far as omori goes, I will probably make a compilation of my favorite moments down the line as I know the playlist is of course quite lengthy haha
Great video on this topic! ✋😳
Thank you so much mate 😁
Need that Joker Paimon so bad.
I don't have a problem with this as long as you are legal age, following consent and not doing it in public!
That's totally fair to expect!
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhwsorry for requesting people not be pedophiles and ruin other peoples experience.
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw "I don't mind this thing unless it's illegal, illegal or illegal."
Wow, this was a really good, interesting, and well-edited video! This youtuber must be a bigshot- *not even 4k subs* BRUH you boutta pop off
Hey I'm over 4k now so that's cool :)
Also thank you so much!
Okay, as someone who was lewd back in 2018 all the way to 2022 and has had a metric ton of drama over it, you'd think I would be an advocate for erp. I am on the fence. I think it's a good way to have a healthy, long distance relationship, but erp 'culture' in vrchat, which btw I more or less made main/stream,/ is toxic. 99.99% of vrchat drama seems to revolve around lewd. That's all I'll say. Most people can hump air. Very few people can stick to just one partner or keep their barriers known. Thus, you have people being overly attached and people who do the big cheat.
That's a really interesting take on it. I think it's pretty great hearing it from another perspective!
I really like people like this, because well…the smaller they are. The more likely they Are to appreciate their audience. To work harder and to respond to them. I dropped a sub. I’m curious though, what’re their skins? I really like both of them.
Haha it's always nice when someone stumbles upon my channel, so of course I'd be grateful! Seriously, thank you for the kind words and I hope you enjoy the other type of content I make as well! As far as skins go, I think nik naks is just a hard to find skin where as kouras is made for them.
At exactly 4:40 time stamp my eyes went 😳😳😳😳
I love it because when I was intially making this it caught me off guard haha
just the way you tell jokes is absolutely hilarious
Awh shucks, I try my best. I'm just happy you got a laugh or two out of my videos 😁