King Triton Destroys Ariel's Grotto Evolution (1987 - 2023)
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2023
- this is one of my favorite scenes from the little mermaid! as you can see, this sequence was figured out very early on, and had little changes until the broadway and live action remake versions. personally, i did feel that the 2023 version was a disappointment, especially since i love halle bailey's performance in this scene. i know javier bardem could have delivered a much more intense performance, so i dont know why he was so calm in the film. either way, there's things i love about all of these versions!
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As an adult, I always burst into tears at the scene when Triton destroys the grotto, because it reminds me of the time when I was 17 that my dad burned all of my art as a punishment, for drawing for fun without his knowledge.
Your father is horrible! He should be arrested for child abuse!
My stepdad is terrible but I’m glad he’s gone now
I’m so sorry that happened, that such a horrible thing to do
Your mom would've divorced him for that!
That's child abuse!
The animated one is literally perfect! So honest and raw and emotional impactful ❤
Live action sucks ass. Ariel will always be the hottie of the sea, not some black mermaid.
1989 - King Triton arrives at Ariel's Grotto
2023 - King Triton already here in Ariel's Grotto
Maybe he's waiting
@meldreamsdocometrue , yeah, he was waiting for Ariel to show up at her grotto, knowing she'd be there(with the help of Sebastian) to confront her for disobeying him by meeting a human
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True
There is a big difference
Um…Remake Triton comes off like a total sociopath. The original Triton for all his faults, can be forgiven for his atrocity cause he did it in a fit of anger without thinking clearly and he clearly expressed remorse upon seeing that he had hurt his daughter but remake Triton was just so calm, so cold, when he did it and when he sees his daughter crying, he just coldly tells her to submit to him, not even showing any sign of remorse or distress for the hurt he caused. I mean couldn’t they at least had him saying something like,
“I didn’t want to hurt you, but I know no other way to keep you safe.”
Ikr that’s why I like the original Triton better.
In the remake’s novelization version, Triton, despite his actions of destroying Ariel’s treasures being completely unforgivable, DID actually feel remorseful, even when he said “Never leave again.” And when he realized why Ariel “Ran away” while she is missing, he became even more remorseful.
I know this because I have that novelization and I read it.
while i completely LOVE the remake, i feel like the only thing that saved this scene was halle's performance. but her performance paired with a more intense triton would have been amazing
yes this is exactly how i feel !!
R.I.P. Kenneth Mars (the voice of King Triton)😔🙏🏼
Kenneth Mars (King Triton's voice)
1935-2011
Jim Cummings (who voiced Pete, Ray the Firefly and others) is current voice of King Triton
It’s so much nothing
And Grandpa Longneck from The Land Before Time
The animated scene is powerful in every version. The musical is also good and powerful, but the live action doesn't built any tension and lacks emotion from beginning to end. There's no compassion in Javier Bardem after wrecking her treasures, unlike the other versions. And Ariel doesn't act like a teenager in this version, which doesn't work.
i agree for the most part, but i think ariel acts like a teenager, just more calm & mature, and there are teenagers like that. i do agree that it lacks emotion, i really like halle’s approach but javier’s acting is way too quiet & subtle. he isn’t very intimidating & doesn’t even seem angry, and it feels soooo rushed
Eric, that statue of yours that Triton blew apart is only a thing. Things can be replaced, lives cannot.
Honestly, I hated how Triton was punishing Ariel just because she disobeyed his rules and interacted with a human. In the animated version, he says that Ariel can't worry about a human, and in the live version, HE LITERALLY TELLS HER THAT SHE SHOULD'VE LET ERIC DROWN.
Ikr
He did what he had to do as her parent. Ariel had been punished (or beached, as Atlantica calls it) for things she did a couple of times in the television series. After all, she disobeyed direct orders from him. Ariel is in no way above Triton’s laws.
wow, the storyboards are so beautiful…
Thanks for this! Though the line "..I love him..' is not said by Ariel in the live action, I still think the fact that she called out his name, which I believe is sort of a modification of the original line( when having the conversation with her Father) is still giving the, 'you went that far as to know him/ a human' vibes: yeah, I found it almost as impactful as the original.
I get that he was protacting Ariel and wants the best for her but taking away the thing you love the most and her hobby isn't the answear. Telling her to stay away from the place would have beeing fine but destroying her favourite place is no way to fix things. There's always another way to fix things. Good things got better in the end and the whole family supported Ariel's dream in the end. Ariel had a right to leave and make her dream come true but she should have left a sign telling her family she was leaving. They might not have beeing there for her but they love her and even if what Triton did was wrong he just wants the best
6:26
Ariel: "I don't care"
Me: "Not even me"
The Late Kenneth Mars can really shout!
RIP Kenneth Mars
The best thing of the remake is that she dosnt call him daddy and dosnet say she loves him if she dosnt eve knows him along with halle amazing voice killed it
Truly gem indeed. I'll always grateful for all the effort you do to share all this content, I love The Little Mermaid and this is a way to know, appreciate and enjoy the movie even more!
I was in love with Ariel when I was in Kindergarten (back between 2000 to 2001) and I felt bad for her when she lost her voice and was forbidden to talk to Eric
But you did realize she was evil, right?
I love this scene! Thanks for sharing this evolution :D
8:28 destroying the earth
8:36 torn these beauties apart
8:40 now to get rid of this stupid and ridiculous statute
Care to do an evolution of King Triton missing Ariel while his seahorse/Ariel’s sisters look for her, the scene where he was like “What have I done.”?
Triton is definitely arrested for Destroying ariel's treasures!
He can indeedly explain himself to the judge!
Judge: Triton, you are in jail for 13 years for trying destroy stuff.
@@meldreamsdocometrue That is exactly what he gets for destroying her treasures! I agree!
I agree also
@@user-xj1zk6gg4d thanks!
You guys are exaggerating
When you watch these evolution videos you really appreciate Halle’s performance. You realize she did a spectacular job. Not implying the others weren’t great, but Halle’s performance has human quality.
Halle was soo inexpressive at times. Even a little in this scene. I love her whole acting when she's human tho
I know King Triton loves his daughter and has her best interests at heart but his closed-mindedness and stubbornness make him not a great father. By destroying Ariel's treasures he is pushing her into the human world all the more. He does need to learn that not every human is bad
@@shelleygoodman2612 He was trying to get his message that mermen should not be anywhere near the surface world clear to her the proper way how. I understand his frustration towards humans; after all, they were the reason his wife is dead.
Man brings to tears because when i was little my dad broke my incredibles and my xbox 360...
2023 - King Triton already here in Ariel's Grotto 100%
One of a few scenes from The Little Mermaid that scared me. But the live action version feels less scary and more lame.
If Athena was there she would be proud of Ariel for rescuing Eric
No she wouldn’t, she’s already dead.
King Triton: How many times have we been this before YOUR MOTHER IS DEAD!
Maybe I Suggest The Little Mermaid 2023 (Behind The Scenes) Wedding Happy Ending.
Justyourvoice for the next video can you do an evolution of Ariel's transformation and that Sebastian and Flounder help her to the surface part ?
i can do that sometime!
Ariel could explain.
I absolutely loved how Javier Bardem and the artists who worked on the character's look rendered Triton in the 2023 movie, but since the message of the whole story is to unite two different worlds, having Sharukh Khan the king of Bollywood play the part would have been absolute top. He definitely had the right physicality (he's not the tallest but the cgi tail would have easily fixed this), gaze, age, attitude, everything. As for his facial features, well, even his name (which is the real name he was given at birth) actually means "king-like face", so there we go.
This scene is extremely powerful! I do like the 1989 animated version; plus, I didn’t know the 2008 Broadway version could be uploaded. But I have a personal reason why I love the 2023 live action version more. It’s got more backstory.♥️
I know it was Ariel's fault that her father destroyed the grotto, but what kind of princess would Ariel be if she didn't try to save Eric?
An obedient daughter, which she should have been long ago. It’s a shame she’s not more like her sisters; they’re the Lisa Simpsons to her Bart Simpson personality-wise.
I suppose Bart Simpson's behavior is somewhat like Aladdin's.
@@BKDBrian2 How so?
They're the Nikita and Anita Suarez to her Frida Suarez personality
To whose personality? Jasmine's? Or Aladdin's? Because I know that Aladdin is a street rat who steals to survive, and Jasmine is a princess whose father wants her to get married.
He's going to wish he should never have destroyed the statue.
Honestly this is my most hated scene in the movie, by far. Because it is just way too needlessly mean-spirited. And before you people call me a big baby for having a different opinion, let me explain my points. King Triton is a character that we're supposed to LIKE, but this scene makes it really, REALLY hard to like him in the first half of the movie. I know he has good intentions with what he does, but that doesn't stop me from hating this scene. Honestly I feel like Wreck-it Ralph did this scene MUCH better, because even though Ralph also did something like this, the movie actually gave us more to like about him before having him do this, so that managed to be genuinely heartbreaking without making Ralph look like an unlikeable monster.
It reminds me of Elena destroyed Miguel's homemade guitar causing an angry and heartbroken Miguel to run away
@@scarletweb2106 I hate her so much.
@@scarletweb2106 I hate her.
When your parents find your anime and manga memorabilia
12:49 Father, no!
This does have a parallel to Star Wars Luke Skywalker watching his Homestead burnt to the ground and Princess Leia witnessing her adopted home planet Alderaan blown up by the first Death Star
The line "You can never be together" got cut from the final film.
Wow this movie is amazing 💓🤩😁🤩😁🤩😻🤩😻🤩😻
Governor Tarkin “ See Lord Vader? I told you she can be reasonable. continue with the operation as planned you my fire when ready.”
Princess Leia “What?!”
Tarkin “ oh you’re far too trusting Dantooine it’s far too remote to make an effective demonstration, however we will deal with your rebel friends soon enough.”
Leia “No!”
Unnamed Superlaser Gunner: “ commence primary ignition“
0:55 2:41 4:27 6:18 8:11 when you’re parents react that you’re going to become a mother or father at an early age. 😂
King tritons like Cable in Deadpool
*"I Like Blowing Shit Up"*
It's weird how Halle's voice so similar to Jodi
Wrong-a
I think the next thing that the next thing that we may need is an evolution of Sebastian's interactions with Chef Louis (or just the evolution of Les Poissons, whichever one works for you).
okay i’ll keep that one in mind too!
@@justyourvoice ok
King triton is as reprimanding as my dad
When you disobey his orders, he should be.
To me this is very reminiscent of Luke rushing home to witness the Lars Homestead as was uncle Owen and Aunt Beru burned down by the Empire (possibly it was Boba Fett hired by Vader) as well as The destruction of Alderaan on the orders of Governor Tarkin
Why was the evolution of the storm blocked?
I feel sorry for Ariel 😢😢
@@scarletweb2106 Why? She needs discipline for disobeying her father’s orders to not go to the surface world; at least her sisters are more responsible.
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7:52 8:30
I always hated this scene from the get-go!
Ariel’s right Triton doesn’t know Eric and besides he would have done the same thing if he were Ariel’s position
He wouldn’t.
1987? You mean 1989. ‘Cause it came out the year prior to my birth in the summer of 1990.
1987 refers to the earliest draft of the film which you can see at the beginning of the video.
Yea
11:25 11:26 11:27 11:28 11:29 11:30
12:43 Please, stop it.
I hated the scene. At least Javier Bardem nailed every moment of portraying the role. My father said he’d nail it and he did. I wish they left the line “you could never be together”.
Omg
It’s a shame “daddy” had to get sexualized lol it used to be a sweet way to refer to your father, at least in the south anyway. Idk how many households used the term but my older sister always called my dad daddy. Father here sounds too formal to me but their relationship in this version seemed less close and more royal I guess idk.
Jodi Benson
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Halle Bailey
Father no
This scene is why I've always considered Triton to be a villain until the end of the film. He was a horrible father. In terms of comparisons, I still say the original is better than the remake. Javier Bardem is a great actor but he doesn't bring the same emotional punch to King Triton as the late and great Kenneth Mars did.
@@PrinceMarc22 Of course Triton is a villain, he exiled Ursula from his kingdom for apparently no reason other than his prejudice against her kind.
Ariel would definitely overpower her father for revenge.
How?
@@toddlindsay8846 I don’t know…
@@Leila_Ganjaei maybe strike a deal with the sailors to kill her father in exchange for sex probably
First one to see this
ariel is grounded
Like this
Or beached=grounded
She’s been punished a couple of times in the television series, or “beached” (as Atlantica calls it).
@@toddlindsay8846Very clever, I take it you’ve seen the television series?
@@conrad5673 yes, I have on Saturday mornings
The remake was boring compared to the OG
At least the remake was better than Ariel’s Beginning
@@JosephRailwayStudios2000with a villain like marina del rey? Be frrrr 😭 she was entertaining
@@JosephRailwayStudios2000 how come
I'm glad that the Sea King never did anything like this in the original version of _The Little Mermaid_ (ⓒ1837) by Hans Christian Andersen. His trident doesn't destroy anything and kill anybody. Also, in the original version, the Sea Witch doesn't try to take over his kingdom. After taking the mermaid's voice, she gives her the potion in a flask, and tells her to swim to land and drink it there. I've noticed that the original versions of fairy tales are often regarded as darker and more disturbing than the Disney adaptations, but in the case of _The Little Mermaid_ , I don't agree. Plenty of violence occurs in the 1989 Disney adaptation, as well.
King Triton refers to humans as "spineless, savage, harpooning fish-eaters, incapable of any feeling!". I'm sorry to say that I'm in no position to argue with him about this, since I used to enjoy seafood, e.g. tuna sandwiches, swordfish, anchovy pizza, lobster, and clam chowder, myself. I've recently learned that seafood is often obtained via hazardous industrial methods, e.g. drift netting and bottom trawling. Such methods take vast amounts of marine life, by accident, as bycatch, and even the industry's intended catch is often unsustainable. According to _Animal: The Definitive Visual Guide_ , 3rd edition (ⓒ2011) by David Burnie and Don E. Wilson (Editors-in-Chief), people catch about 100 million sharks yearly, including at least 6 million blue sharks. This is at least 3 sharks a second, including a blue shark every 5 seconds. Millions more are taken as bycatch.
"Tortoiseshell" jewelry, I read in _Weird & Wonderful Wildlife_ (ⓒ1983) by Michael Marten, John May, and Rosemary Taylor, is actually made from the carapace, or upper shell, of the now-critically endangered hawksbill sea turtle. Other anthropogenic threats to this and other sea turtle species include disturbance of their nesting beaches, distraction by artificial lights, over-harvesting for their eggs, attacks by stray dogs, and, as already mentioned, being taken as bycatch by industrial fishing gear.