Railroad Worker James Leon Simmons - Witness to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2023
- James Leon Simmons stood atop the triple overpass with fellow workers S.M. Holland and Richard C. Dodd.
LANE. What did you see and what did you hear?
SIMMONS. As the presidential limousine was rounding the curve on Elm Street, there was a loud explosion. At the time I didn’t know what it was, but it sounded like a loud firecracker or a gun shot. Ann it sounded like it came form the left and in front of us towards the wooden fence. And there was a puff of smoke that came underneath of the trees on the embankment.
LANE. Where was the puff of smoke Mr Simmons in relation to the wooden fence?
SIMMONS. It was right directly in front of the wooden fence....
LANE. After you heard the shots and saw the smoke, what did you do?
SIMMONS. I was talkin with Patrolman Foster at the time. And as soon as we heard the shots we ran around to the wooden fence. And when we got there there was no one there. But there was footprints in the mud around the fence, and there was footprints on the wooden two by four railing on the fence.
LANE. Were you questioned by Dallas Police that day?
SIMMONS. Yes, I was.
LANE. Did you give your name to the Dallas Police?
SIMMONS. Yes, I did.
LANE. Did you tell them what you just told me?
SIMMONS. Yes, I did.
LANE. Were you subsequently questioned by agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
SIMMONS. About a month later I was questioned by the FBI.
LANE. Did you tell them what you told me and what you told the Dallas Police?
SIMMONS. Yes, I did.
He tells the same story Mr Holland told. I believe both men are telling the truth.
Mr Holland changed his story. Read his sworn testimony to the Warren Commission, given with his own lawyer present. Holland also lied about seeing Kennedy's foot over the side of the limo.
I believe they were both illiterate hayseeds.
Totally agree - this guy knows what he saw and is telling it as he saw it
@@benkellyshow yes shots from all over, including the grassy knoll (north knoll) but the throat and head HITS came from the south knoll parking lot close to the overpass. Oswald never fired a shot that day. ua-cam.com/video/c8emNECYgmg/v-deo.html
Except, smokeless powder for bullets were invented in the 1880s. Wouldn’t the conspirators have known enough NOT to use black powder shells which, apparently, all the men standing on the overpass said they saw!
Mr. Lane seems emphatic to point this out in every interview with these guys. Perhaps that’s why they weren’t questioned by the Warren Commission-if you’re lying or mistaken in one area of testimony you might be the same way in others…
Never called by the commission after telling the FBI what he saw-amazing!
He’s right. That is the way they “did business“.
President Lyndon B. Johnson appointed the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, commonly called the Warren Commission, by Executive Order (E.O. 11130) on November 29, 1963. LBJs people changed the route of caravan, by changing the destination! Both LBJs girl friend and wife said, LBJ told them he'd be done with the, Kennedys after Dallas. LBJ hated them so much, he refused to allow pictures of Kennedy at his ranch. Kennedy had criminal investigation(s) on LBJ on going, till he was killed!
ça n'a pas changer , ils magouillent toujours autant et même plus !!
"I always thought it peculiar. But that's the way they did business." He's a railroad inspector. I believe he has more than adequate facilities of observation.
*_A detail caught my attention in these videos. The kindness and nobility of old Americans. This doesn't exist anymore in America. I'm not American. However, when I came for tourist travel, I witnessed how corrupt the USA is. This situation can be easily understood from the internet and social media. America's demographic structure is very distorted. The concept of family has been damaged. Incredible corruption, immorality, and increased crime rates have occurred. If an American time traveler were to teleport from 1950 to the present day, you can be sure that he would not be able to recognize today's USA._*
Warren commision ignored...all of these witnesses....
yes. but why?? we know the reason!!
Justice Warren did not want to head up or be in the investigation. He was bullied into it by LBJ and probably blackmailed by Hoover as well. I don't know your ages but there was a great deal of animosity at JFK over the Bay of Pigs by all the agencies including the Pentagon. Warren was aware and knew the consequences of anything coming out that resembled any semblance of the truth. There were several very important men involved. One of them has finally died who was a player and I was hoping that with his death the truth would finally come out but his son sealed GHWBs docs for 25? 50? years. Very few make mention of this fact, but there were three future POTUSs in Dallas that day: RMN, LBJ & GHWB. Bush, a charter member of the CIA, was the only one who manufactured an alibi and is reputed to have misdirected the FBI's investigation with an anonymous phone call. All three were complicit then or after the fact, but I believe the actions of Bush put him in as the agent in charge of the op.
The Warren Commission were LBJ men.
Credible witness & he was spot on with the location where the kill shot came from & Oswald did not fire that kill shot! The commission really botched this up pure & improper.
Watch it again. He did not say a shot came from the grassy knoll.
Really? You believe they botched it up? Really? Still?
Technically you're right they didn't botch up they did it intentionally. Avoiding all evidence that another shooter was involved. But that was to be expected. Allen Dulles, Kennedy's arch enemy who is fired from the CIA but continued to maintain a role there, was one of the Warren commission's Chief creators of their monstrous report
They didnt botch it up at all they did exactly as they were told. The outcome was predetermined by the FBI.
@@kemosabegt350geuss6 Ok then pass the buck where it belongs because Oswald did not fire the kill shot from behind the knoll that took the skull off JFK & I don't care what anyone says or tries to concoct at this point!
I find it very difficult to think that Mr. Simmons is lying here. He (at least to my observation) "thinks" he is telling the truth. Salt-of-the-Earth, blue-collar guy with no motive to lie.
I agree but he seems like a straightforward person who was led by the interviewer's question.
He said the sound of a firecracker or shot came from the front and left. That could have been the TSBD. He said he saw a puff of smoke in front of the picket fence. The interviewer got him to link the two, which is not what he said at all. Other witnesses have identified the smoke as exhaust fumes from the rail yard parking lot behind the fence.
@@dab.nope
@@peterm1826 No to what exactly?
@dab. paid debunker on the CIA payroll still??
@@dab. The only one lying here is Mark Lane.
I'll go to my grave NEVER believing that Oswald acted alone.
Post Script...(7 months later) The real truth is that we will never know the real truth. Over time the story gets muddied with innuendo, half truths, lies and all the other garbage that gets thrown into the mix. Best you can do is read everything you can on it and form your own opinions.
Read the book On the Trail of the Assassins by Jim Garrison, which the movie JFK was supposedly based on in actuality is more of a mockery love it when compared to the information that is actually in the book. For example, one of the most important Witnesses in the book was Perry Russo, but his testimony was actually part of the testimony of the made-up character played by Todd bacon in the movie. Jim Garrison makes a compelling argument in his book for Oswald being a patsy set up to take the blame, as well as being a CIA operative who thought he was actually fighting communism.
@@michaelattoe5710...That's pretty much how I feel about Oswald's role. No way did he do this by himself. I'll check that book out though.
LHO was only a patsy in all of this. pre- designated patsy set up by the CIA and Mafia. paraffin test conducted soon after the event showed no gunpowder residue on his hands. co-workers saw him calmly drinking a Coke in the DSBD bldg lunchroom. expert conducted fingerprint analysis of boxes in the sniper's nest showed Malcolm Wallace was the DSBD bldg shooter. the look of utter disbelief on LHO's face when a reporter told him he was the prime suspect in the president's assassination.
@@michaelattoe5710 Jim Garrison lied about the 3 tramps not being ID'd and cleared, about the parade route being changed, about Oswald being in the TSBD doorway, etc. He was a paranoid crackpot who implicated ALL of the following as being conspirators and accessories:
FBI
CIA
Secret Service
Dallas PD
3 governors, Ronald Reagan included
Johnny Carson
Bobby Kennedy
lawyers defending people he suspected
conspiracy authors critical of him
a Marine buddy of Oswald's Garrison decided was an "Oswald lookalike"
a man who had made inflammatory comments about Kennedy and who had been in El Paso during the assassination
Cuban guerrillas
neo-Nazis
NBC
CBS
Newsweek
L.A. Times
Washington Post
John Birch Society
13 State Regional Democratic Organization
White Russian Community
NASA
oil industry
aerospace industry
the telephone company ("an extension of the US government!")
gays and masochists pulling off a "homosexual thrill killing"
Garrison's "case" against an innocent man whose life he ruined fell apart within minutes of reaching his hand-picked jury and got him soundly condemned for his despicable and unprofessional conduct by the ABA.
I don't believe Oswald was a shooter at all. Garrison testified he saw two men in the 6th floor window and there was a credible witness who put Oswald on the 2nd floor at the time of the shooting. When they did the paraffin test on Oswald he had NO powder residue on his cheek which would necessarily been pres ent if he'd fired a rifle. The nitrates on his hands were nearly always present on the hands of those who warehoused books. Oswald was staged by his past work for the CIA to take the fall for the assassination from the Bay of Pigs on. When Jack fired Dulles for that fiasco, Dulles set it in motion. Maybe when all the players have died the truth will come out, but it's doubtful, since even Bobby destroyed evidence. It has always bothered me that they claimed Oswald put 3 shots out (there are witnesses who claim there were as many as six shots fired) with two kill shots placed on a target moving away from him through a tube sight. Shooters like myself will tell you that a tube sight is difficult enough to place one kill shot on target with the target static. I've killed squirrels running through the trees with a .22 rifle, but only with iron sights. A moving target is very difficult through a tube sight to pick up--I know because I've hunted them both ways. When a kid stood up between me and my target one day I could not determine what he was through the scope. Lowering my weapon, I saw what I was about to shoot. It was enough for me. I took that scope off my rifle and never mounted another on any of my rifles ever again. Jack Kennedy was taken in a kill box by a team of assassins.
And still there are non-believers
Smoke? What are we supposed to infer from this? That there was canon fire from the grassy knoll? Or perhaps a volley of black powder rifles?
@@dab. wow, smh
@@dab.😒 what the.... really man, derpa der
The FIRST 'story' we hear, believe and remember, then becomes difficult to accept as false when just maybe...one person has a different 'story'?
Quote. It's easier to fool a person, than to convince a person they've been fooled.😳
@@dab. No, just that the overwhelming evidence, and just as importantly common sense, literally proves that a single, lone guy was not responsible.
Thanks for finding the Mark Lane interviews. Simmons, Holland, Dodd and Bowers are all professionals whose positions require a great amount of attentiveness and accuracy. They make the most reliable witnesses.
You should know, Bowers never mentioned a puff of smoke or a flash of light to anyone before Mark Lane. Also, he had the best view of the area in question and DID NOT see a shooter. Yes, he does make a great witness to the fact that there was not a grassy knoll assassin.
@@franclin0 What is your problem? Clearly, Lee Bowers talks of a "flash" or a "puff of smoke". He also confirms that the Warren Commission stopped him from giving the more precise testimony.
Lee Bowers at the WC:
"At the time of the shooting there seemed to be some commotion (...)" on the high ground above Elm Street . . . I just am unable to describe rather than it was something out of the ordinary, a sort of milling around, but something occurred in this particular spot which was out of the ordinary, which attracted my eye for some reason, which I could not identify."
So, you are claiming that Lee Bowers further clarifications of what he witnessed - as filmed by Mark Lane only two years after the assassination - are "lies"?
Don't be so ridiculous!
@@ulicadluga He never mentioned either of them before. Why all of a sudden after numerous questioning does he (for Mark Lane) remember a flash of light or a puff of smoke? His story, like many others' became embellished and better sounding to conspiracy believers, but bottom line is he did not see a shooter. And for the record, in broad daylight a rifle is not going to emit a flash of light that would be visible to the naked eye from behind.
@@franclin0 "Numerous questioning"? Mark Lane did his series or interviews only two years after the assassination. Never mind a "conspiracy to kill JFK", there was immediately a "conspiracy" to control the narrative, be it over concerns of a "nuclear war" or to protect LBJ.
There was an atmosphere of repression and intimidation after the assassination. An absurd number of people were frightened, even killed in the wake of November 22.
What Mark Lane did was "refined journalism". He let the witnesses speak for themselves and in an atmosphere of security - although many of them were in grave danger.
The witnesses in the vicinity of the rail yard, Lee Bowers, Sam Holland, James Simmons and Richard Dodd were all professional men and seasoned railway men. They give clear and unemotional testimony. They are not tainted by any political agenda.
You have no evidence to undermine these courageous testimonies. What is your agenda?
This guy was standing on the overpass looking down at Elm street. That is a perfect view to see everything. I was there a few years ago standing right where he was at. In back of me was the railroad tracks and the entrance to the Stemmons Freeway ramp. He not only saw the smoke coming from behind the picket fence, most likely, he saw the limousine with the President getting shot directly below him. My God, that man must have so much sorrow and pain. I can see it in his eyes to witness something that horrific. I feel bad that he had to witness that.
There was no one behind the picket fence, and Simmons said he saw smoke in front of the fence.
Lee Bowers was the train switch man that saw 2 cars drive behind the picket fence. He noticed men standing in 2 separate areas behind there. 2 of them were dressed I police uniforms. They had walkie talkies and were coordinating the big event. Bowers saw a flash of smoke behind there. Also there were other witnesses that saw men behind there. A deaf mute who witnessed them from above the bridge along with railroad men. Also there was a young fellow WI a camera taking pics. The cop from behind the fence confiscated his film. He wanted to take the camera too. But the young military aged guy told him, it was his mother's camera. There were lots of witnesses that saw action behind that fence. None were called on, for their testimony by the WC. Many of the eye witnesses tragically died from strange deaths right after the assassination. Many were afraid to come forward. Many were forced to change their testimony. The Parkland Hospital doctors observed different gunshot wounds on Kennedy's head and an entrance wound on his throat. There was a conspiracy and it was orchestrated from higher up. They wanted Kennedy out of the way, permanently!!!!
@@nightowl5475 The two men that Bowers said he saw were on the south side of the fence, not the north side, and he literally said that there was no there at the wooden fence the moment the shots were fired. He described the two men he saw--on the south side of the fence--as "...Ah - one of them, as I recall, was a middle-aged man, fairly heavy-set with - what looked like a white shirt. Uh - he remained in sight practically all of the time. The other individual was uh - slighter build and had either a plaid jacket or a plaid shirt..."
@@9BallrI'm sure they were just back there doing nothing. Right?
@@nightowl5475 There was no "they," there was literally no one behind the picket fence according to Bowers. The south side of the fence is where the grass is, in front of the fence, where Zapruder and others were. So yes, they were doing nothing, because there was no one there. It would be absolutely impossible for someone to stand there with a gun and shoot Kennedy and not have everyone right in that area see them, and not be caught immediately by the police and others who ran up there. No one was seen behind the fence when the police and others ran up there because there was no one behind the fence. That is completely in line with the forensic and ballistics evidence as well, which has shown that the injuries to Kennedy and his head movements are consistent only with a shot from behind. See "Gunshot-wound dynamics model for John F. Kennedy assassination" online, for example.
This man stares into my very soul. Towards the end I was waiting for him to say my name and give the current time and date.
Mr. Simmons is looking not at you, but at the FBI/CIA/professional hired killers of our President, knowing he himself will die soon as a result of this interview.. This is a man of superior courage and the depth of his humanity shall be revealed and I believe that a statue in his honor will be erected in Dallas.
You would have been a great member of the manson family.
@@Rayburn58 it’s not too late…
Mr. Simmons is right in thinking that is how they do their busines. Lying, ignoring truth, covering up...
Yeah and they trained others to keep lying and covering things up and it still goes on today.
True .even at schools they spread and teach untrue things aka lies
Wow, conspiracy theorists are masters of projection!
@@franclin0 They're not the ones deceiving the whole world 24/7.
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 uh, yes they are! 🤣🤣
"Well....I always thought it peculiar but I thought that's the way they (FBI) did business."
That Warren Commission is a JOKE
It's so crystal clear to anyone with slightly open eyes and even a minor awareness of how shady most governments are, there were multiple shooters. For something as critical and high stakes as a presidential assassination, and assuming the politics were removed from the process, they should have interviewed everybody. There should have been 1000s of hours of interviews and mountains of evidence saved forever. Instead this text book definition of a quality eye witness to the kill shot is called exactly zero times. People still defending a lone Oswald execution either have a screw loose or get some cheap thrill from being contrarian. Is it so hard to believe a political commission got a politically expedient outcome?
Thank you for re uploading of these important witness, Mark Lane is the first true researchers, as a lawyer, he asked the right questions, if only he had access to the so called films and photo taken that day, he would have had a real photogrammetry expert to look and see if they matched, which we know from nix to z film people are missing and thus the films were edited and altered ?
There are frames missing yes
@@thetruthchannel349 Thank you for agreeing, so much was done to the films and photos its not funny. 🚗
👌✌😀, especially removing the jfk car stopping in elm st, which is the main reason why, but also to remove the massive exit wound in the back of jfk's head.🚓✌😀
@@7071t6 Well, the morons at the ClA didn't anticipate the future of technology. You can load that video & separate the frames out a 35 Mil/Second. And its OBVIOUS that several frames were removed. Even if you just play it slow motion the jerking you see in the video is from missing frames & a very slip-shot rushed attempt to edit something together to get it out to NBC, CBS and ABC. Thats why the editing is so bad. They were in a rush.
True researcher Mark Lane's record:
- packed his books with demonstrable fabrications
- disgusted interview subject by twisting their words
- soundly condemned by two commissions for misleading them
- described by Charles Brehm as "a despicable liar"
- described by John Connally as "evil"
- right hand stooge to Rev. Jim Jones (and Lane had plenty of blood on his hands)
- don't miss Bob Katz's Mother Jones expose "Mark Lane - the Left's Leading Hearse Chaser..."
@@7071t6 What the heck is the point of seizing and screwing around with films? For goodness' sake, just leaving well enough alone and saying Oswald must have had an accomplice who got away would have suited any conspiracy just fine.
What happened to Officer Foster who was with them, and more importantly, the statement that he would have submitted?
In the days after the shooting there's media, repeatedly showed the private video that SHOWED the puff of smoke over the fence...l saw it!
If there was a puff of smoke, what does that prove? Witnesses have variously described it as being like a firecracker, exhaust fumes, or cigarette smoke.
Im betting that Oswald didn't even know he was part of a multi-rifle operation.
the other or others gunmen were probably dressed as Dallas policemen.
No evidence for that.
😂
@@yarberyarber7690 😂
Or in suits flashing phoney Service badges
@@markos6143 One cop saw one man who flashed some ID at him he never even saw clearly and the man certainly didn't ID himself as Secret Service badges. What happens when the REAL Secret Service comes forward and affirms they had no agents present there, thus promptly confirming to the world a conspiracy is operating?
Third identical story I’ve heard today, from three different witnesses who were nowhere near each other. What a well planned story by the CIA.
yeah well that's how the truth works.... its not about how near you were...its about what you were looking at.... and why on earth would the CIA plant a multiple shooter story?????
CIA did it and knew the exact route the president would take. Trained assassin snipers took kennedy out. Oswald was probably right when he said ..I DIDNT KILL NOBODY!!!!!
Excellent eyewitness account by rail worker James Simmons
Cryptic closure . Thank you Mr Simmons Truth be told .
Even the House Select committee in the 70s found there to be four shots and therefore more than one assassin.
You failed to mention that the HSCA was all set to conclude Oswald acted alone until those acoustics experts came forward at the last minute with their dictabelt recording... which the Justice Department and the Ramsey Panel investigated and discovered to be erroneous and invalid as evidence. This was completely debunked more than 40 years ago.
@@aaronz7056 Not debunked. And you failed to mention all the other discrepancies found with the Warren report…which has been totally debunked. And there has NEVER been a full investigation of the assassination. Wonder why? 🤔
@@aaronz7056The Justice Department? 😂
@@jeffreypaulross9767 Oh, yes, of course, I forgot: the US government, the Justice Department, the Ramsey Panel, the Warren Commission, the HSCA, the police, the Secret Service, and the FBI were all conspirators in murder and treason, thanks for reminding me.
@Aaron7056 is another bot account. Lots of them “posting” on these videos. 🙄
Disturbing testimony.
Why didn't the Dallas police check those car's that back areas I'm sure rifles were in the trunks of certain car's that day. And also those tramps were in shelter #3 with rifles. And most certainly the other older tramp was as a look at and after the assassination hand there rifles to him to put into a trunk of a car. And went to railway areas where they were pulled off the train by police and there pictures were taken by a news reporter. If you look closely at those photos you can see certain police officers are being impersonated. Lyndon Johnson wanted to become president just look Albert Thomas famous wink to LBJ after he was sworn in on air force one.
Hindsight
Because they already had their man weeks if not months before the assassination.
@@chickenfist1554yep. Guy Bannister was instrumental in having LHO move to New Orleans for “ the summer” to have him sheep dipoed by turning him from anti commie to suddenly “ pro Castro”, supplied him with leaflets to pass out to make him look that way, so he suddenly became a “ whacked out crazy commie” who could be a potential president killer.
After the sheep dipping, Bannister has him move BACK to Dallas a month before the assassination.
You don’t have to be a conspiracy nut believe this guy was being used in a well thought out plan. Or to believe there was only one shooter involved.
And yes, this witness did claim he saw a puff of smoke in front of the fence to the left of him which would be the grassy knoll.
@@ACERRUBRUM31 Totally agree. The Warrenati hate that memo from the CIA to the Secret service explaining that the 'Oswald subject' worked for them lol
DPD was in on it. Not all but enough.
500 People saw the smoke under the hedge on the Picket Fence. Oswald was what he said he was...A Patsy!
Blatantly not true.
Gunpowder is smokeless; has been since the 1880's.
@@xlucim Hardly matters because:
- Connally's said the shots came from behind
- witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead
- victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and, ergo, from behind
- Kennedy's massive exit wound seen exploding at the right temple is consistent only with a shot from behind
- all bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle
- autopsy demonstrates the shots came from behind
- Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos demonstrating the shots came from behind
- anybody firing a rifle from behind that flimsy knoll fence would have been absurdly obvious and plainly visible to many witnesses
- it's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions
- Oswald never made any attempt to blow any conspiracy to anybody
@@aaronz7056 Hey, Aaaron, there were credible witnesses who SAW exactly what this man described. You have no credible support for ANY of your "facts."
@@matthewgallagher1761 That's right, I have "no credible support for ANY of my facts." What next, I'm part of the "conspiracy?" Any more berserk lies you'd care to make? lol
James Files - Remington Fireball XP-100 ….CIA -Chicago Mob.
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Simmons' recollections are what is known as the UNVARNISHED truth.
There is a picture, showing the smoke
There is indeed a picture, which is so blurry it could be anything. But let's assume for a moment that big white area in the picture is actually smoke from a rifle. What kind of weapon would produce a huge cloud like that?
@@dab. ua-cam.com/video/kZFesPK8glo/v-deo.htmlsi=Jue56b3yPvVaRPga
@@dab.Nobody said it was a huge cloud, just puffs of smoke.
@@anthonywilliams9852 We're referring to the photo, supposedly showing smoke. IF it is smoke, then it's a big cloud, not a puff.
@dab. how does it feel to be a tool of the illegal CIA posting crap to debunk these videos??
Any testimony showing Oswald did not act alone was not welcome.
Lee H. Oswald is the purest figment far out IMAGINATION that the Warren Commission could have chosen!
Well said ... Oswald was being impersonated by 2 people. Kerry Thornly, who served with him in the Marines and William Seymour.
And you should always trust your government officials. Never question their authority.
Exactly “How they do Business”…Overlook Truth to fit the Narrative…
Truth will never change no matter what.
Our house of cards is built on a dunghill.
if a person were to commit such a crime, why wouldn't they use a silencer? Does that make a shot less accurate? Just askin
Silencers back then could cause a loss of velocity.
hence very likely the reason the back shot on JFK penetrated less than an inch.
Better question: whose idea was it to assume they would successfully frame this on lone shooter Oswald as they fired from different directions? All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
These interviews are absolutely incredible. I was never certain about the 2nd shooter hypothesis. I am now.
yeah, it is very peculiar. and yeah, it was the way they did this business. to cover it up
Wow, that’s heavy duty right there
Yeah, I’d say that was exactly the way they did business.
Well , he's correct in the fact that "that's how they do business" !
who were the 2 Dallas PD who were with him?
I trust this man and Mr Holland more than the FBI or CIA.
What I don’t understand are all the reports of shots sounding like “firecrackers!” Been around guns all my life and I have NEVER heard a gunshot that sounded like a “firecracker!” Never!
Firecrackers back in the 60’s were a lot more powerful than those that are sold today.
A Cherry bomb or M80 made one heck of a loud explosion when set off.
@@garymccord4087 Oh I know that’s right. But, even with that, still don’t know about shots sounding like firecrackers! I wasn’t there, but…..
@@mikeivey7167you said it yourself ‘been around guns all my life’. To the untrained ear, at first sound with echo from buildings, you think firecracker or in old days, car backfire. It happened once to me in a downtown area and only realized when people ran. Now I know, but I can understand their initial confusion. In an open field a weapon sounds totally different than around tall buildings.
The WC were cherry pickers
Now I’m no expert on the assassination of Kennedy I’m 71 now and in service I was a pretty good shot , but you would have to be a bloody good sniper to allow for all the factors of wind , distance, bullet drop , and vehicle movement to nail those two shots at that distance … even with a scope ! I believe the weapon was bolt action so after the first shot these parameters would have to be calculated again into the second or third shot ! .. my conclusion is it’s not only Oswald who if at all fired those shots but some damn good well trained sniper! Front and rear of the motorcade ?
He missed the kill shot twice.
Does anyone know the year that Mark Lane did these interviews?
1966-67
So he states he heard the first gunshot...or loud report as the car was making the turn on to Elm street. That is very interesting in itself.
The first shot came after the turn on Elm. The first shot missed. The second shot comes right at the time the limo goes behind the Stemmons Freeway sign. The fatal shot was 4 seconds later as the limo was approaching the grassy knoll.
Bless him... he is telling the truth ❤
He described just one shot, apparently the last final headshot. But what about the first two (or more) shots fired. He and others on the overpass mention nothing about the initial shots. That seems strange to me.
Because the first two shots came from the TSBD and he heard but didn't see them. Hence his sensory perception of the first two shots would have been limited to auditory only. Other than acknowledging the noise of the shots he cant add much.
While a third shot came from the picket fence and he both heard it and saw it. When I say he saw it...I mean he saw some commotion/light/smoke from that area. In other words he had visual and auditory around the third shot.
That would explain his testimony and that of his colleagues.
Oswald said just before he was assassinated “I’m just a patsy”.
When I first heard that, I thought ‘why?” All theses decades it bugged me, what was Lee trying telling us? I felt sorry for him a lot.
I never felt sorry for him.
They never include the whole quote, which puts the infamous statement into context.
What he actually said was: “They've taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy!"
He wasn’t alluding to a conspiracy, he was it. There wasn’t anyone else to blame, just him. He never had conspiracy in his head because he knew it was just him.
He was saying they targeted him because he was a communist and an easy target.
He looks like his belief in the United States and the American way of life has been shattered. God bless him.
Smoke? Modern guns use smokeless powder. They do not produce smoke.
Kings and Queens rule us
These were some good ol' honest, hard working guys. They don't make them like that anymore.
gunpowder has been smokeless since the late 1800's. The puff of smoke is irrelevant, it could be from a car exhaust or something else.
"Smokeless" powder is the name given to modern gunpowder.....to differentiate it from the much-more-dirty black powder used earlier. Although called "smokeless", it is not totally so and can be confirmed with any real and honest shooter today.
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wasn't aware that there were cars with engines running on the grassy knoll....... surely there were either on the road or in something called the car park.
You have no idea of the geography of Dealey Plaza and its a bit insulting to suggest to multiple witnesses and what they saw was a car exhaust. Lets not stop there.... maybe all they heard was firecrackers and the whole assassination's was faked.....
LOL just back from Disney ? no car could get out that very moment parade passing by ,they were bumper to bumper ,try again
Not that only one that said the same thing
Date of film? Name of interviewer?
Mark Lane. And sometime in early 1964.
Thanks, @@fiachramaccana280.
THE Mark Lane.
The first man to write a book
Rush To Judgement
discrediting the Warren Commission.
Does a rifle give out smoke ?
No, it does not. Not unless it is a flintlock or percussion-cap. These were used in the 1700's and 1800's, respectively.
The only thing I find hard to believe is how the hell they tracked the shell casings and picked them up so fast to get out of dodge. I think two shooters along with two spotters, just there to track the shells and collect them, we’re behind the fence. 4 people can fit into a getaway car. Makes sense.
Where's the evidence for any of that?
@@dab. there isn’t evidence of 4 people behind the knoll. I’m just speculating at to how the hell they picked up the shells.
@@clath2823 Maybe there were no shells because there were no people.
Why waste time speculating about something for which there is no evidence?
wait what??? 2 Dallas police on the overpass? First time I hear this. They are literally about 30 seconds from t he picket fence if they ran there. How is it that no one was caught there?
I wonder why they found no one behind the stockade fence when they got there...
The DID find people there. People who claimed to be with the Secret Service, for instance....
A deaf mute that Mark Lane interviewed claimed that the rifle was immediately stowed away. Perhaps that's true or perhaps "Secret Service holding a rifle" was "good enough" for police with an Assassination on their watch and a nightclub owner giving out free police passes that "no one has ever heard of" successfully sneaking into the police station basement for Oswald's transfer.
Well, it is still today, the manner in which or the way our government does its business.
THESE MEN WERE RIGHT!!! CLEARLY THE FLIM SHOWS IT??? THEY IGNORED THE RAILROAD WORKERS????
Does the government ever tell the truth?
Un friggin real.
When did the C.I.A.kill this guy?
Dude probably had something to do with it
The truth
How did they off this guy 😅
See James files prison interview
See James Files proved to be at a hospital in Chicago on the day of the assassination.
They are all telling the truth
yes shots from all over, including the grassy knoll (north knoll) but the throat and head HITS came from the south knoll parking lot close to the overpass. Oswald never fired a shot that day. ua-cam.com/video/c8emNECYgmg/v-deo.html
See: James Files
See: James Files proved to be at a hospital in Chicago on 11/22/63.
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Ammunition hasn't discharged smoke since the 1880's. Very doubtful that there was a puff of smoke in this case. Possibly mistaken for somebody who might have been smoking a cigarette at that exact location?
Unless the weapon had been cleaned recently, and a residue of oil left in the barrel.
Hardly likely.
it was a Fireball short rifle using self loaded ammunition. frangible bullets made by pouring mercury into the hollowed out lead bullet. You cannot definitely claim such self loaded rounds would be smokeless.
@@jimmylieb5225 All credible evidence clearly demonstrates all the shots came from behind the limo.
You have to keep in mind that there were dozens of witnesses that saw the smoke coming from the fence line, one of which was former military and said without a doubt, that it was gun powder and not from a cigarette, so you can't just dismiss the smoke claim so easily.
BS
another cia robort
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This so called witness is reading a script.
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actually he is an alien. Notice how his eyes blink sideways.....LOL
Some people called ordinary folk especially 40 or 50 years would sound a bit wooden when giving testimony cos that wasn't what they did for a living. Today given social media we are all expert media performers and can fake naturalness in front of a camera.
The fact that he sounds awkward and shy makes him even more convincing. Cos that how ordinary folk sounded back then when you ask them to give life changing testimony in front of a camera. He had a lot on his mind including will I have an accident cos of this.........
The problem is, regardless of all smoke seen, rifle seen, etc. at or behind the wooden fence, there is no evidence of a shot from the front. The only evidence is gunfire from the rear of the limousine.
The evidence is that the physicians at Parkland Memorial who examined JFK say that the neck wound is an entrance wound and the head would is an exit wound. So actually there is powerful medical evidence of gunfire from the front of the limousine.
Bwwwwwwaaaaaaaaa. You are insane! Just like to argue.
Several people, including doctors who first saw JFK, have testified to a gaping wound on the back of his head, an exit wound.
Several people, including doctors who first saw JFK, have testified to a gaping wound on the back of his head, an exit wound.
Back, and to the left. Back and to the left.
Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind.
Connally's said the shots came from behind.
Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
Kennedy's massive exit wound seen exploding in Zapruder's film is consistent only with a shot from behind.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos.
Anybody firing a rifle behind that flimsy knoll fence would have been absurdly obvious and very visible.
It's vastly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions.
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@@bettercallsaul1777 Well, that exhaustively and persuasively demolishes all the evidence I just listed, congrats. Conspiracy it is!
@@aaronz7056 WC Shill
You're full of it and don't know what you're talking about. "Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos." The Parkland doctors stated in a new documentary - without doubt! - that the first bullet that hit the President was an ENTRANCE wound - the second bullet that killed him was an EXIT wound. Later, one of the doctors was told by someone in Secret Service not to state that fact again "if you know what's good for you." This railroad worker had no reason to lie. And wasn't even called to the Warren Commission. An EYE-WITNESS not called. That's all you need to know.
Back, and to the left.
. That's because johnson, wanted his seat, and he got it too . The most complex situations are easy, if you're smart . gb* ~ hard life (MULDEW) .
Seems just a LITTLE BIT like a coverup
Of course they covered up the clear truth.